[04:34] <Noskcaj> Laney, Could you please update the gnome-keyring in the gpg ppa to lp:~noskcaj/gnome-keyring/merge
[04:36] <Noskcaj> I've merged debian's new release in, which properly removes the old .desktop file
[04:50] <pitti> Good morning
[04:52] <Noskcaj> good afternoon pitti
[04:53] <pitti> hey Noskcaj, how are you?
[04:54] <Noskcaj> pretty good. you?
[04:55] <pitti> very well, thanks!
[07:41] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:41] <pitti> bonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon week-end ?
[07:42] <seb128> hey pitti
[07:42] <seb128> très bon ! et toi ?
[07:42] <seb128> nous avons été à la plage hier
[07:43] <pitti> seb128: bien aussi ! un ami nous a visité
[07:43] <pitti> seb128: nous ici samedi, la seule façon de survivre :)
[07:44] <seb128> ici ?
[07:44] <pitti> seb128: err, "aussi"
[07:45] <seb128> pitti, vous avez des plages prêt de chez vous ?
[07:46] <pitti> seb128: pas une vraie plage, mais un lac
[07:46] <seb128> ah ok, c'est un peu pareil :-)
[07:46] <pitti> ce qui est important -- il y a de l'eau froide :)
[07:46] <seb128> oui ;-)
[07:47] <pitti> seb128: we also played some mini-golf and table tennis
[07:48] <seb128> nice
[07:48] <seb128> here we also visited a museum yesterday afternoon when it started raining
[07:49] <seb128> weather is cooler since it rained, which is a good thing
[07:49] <seb128> couldn't sleep well when it was so hot
[07:49] <pitti> yeah, tropic nights are a nuisance
[07:50] <pitti> ici nous avons de la pluie ce matin, qui a aidé un peu
[07:52]  * pitti is still confused about the news about the greek plebiscite yesterday -- I have little idea what that actually means
[07:53] <pitti> "do you agree to a nonexistent reform proposal?"
[07:55] <willcooke> morning
[07:55] <larsu> morning people
[07:56] <pitti> hey willcooke, hallo larsu
[07:56] <larsu> any bzr experts here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11829778/
[07:57] <pitti> larsu: bzr upgrade
[07:57] <larsu> pitti: thank you sir :)
[07:57] <pitti> larsu: apparently the branch you were pulling from got checked out many many years ago?
[07:57] <larsu> that error message could include that little titbit ;)
[07:58] <pitti> larsu: FWIW, it's ti*d*bit :)
[07:58] <larsu> pitti: no, it was from a previous branch I did a couple of weeks ago
[07:58] <larsu> pitti: ugh indeed. sorry. *slightlyembarassed*
[08:02] <pitti> larsu: you can also upgrade the remote branch with bzr upgrade lp:..., in case that's the outdated one
[08:03] <seb128> hey willcooke larsu
[08:04] <Laney> yo yo
[08:04] <pitti> hey Laney!
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:04] <seb128> pitti, yeah, unsure where Greece is going...
[08:04] <Laney> hey pitti & seb128
[08:04] <larsu> morning Laney and seb128!
[08:04] <Laney> what's up?
[08:05] <Laney> hi larsu!
[08:05] <pitti> Laney: global meltdown apparently
[08:10] <Laney> oh yes
[08:10]  * Laney observes this maybe differently from a non euro location
[08:11] <pitti> apparently the US also had quite some heat recently, but supposedly not our friends on the southern hemisphere :)
[08:12] <pitti> Laney: oh, you meant the financial/greek meltdown .. that too :0
[08:12] <Laney> you mean a *real* meltdown?
[08:13]  * larsu definitelt melted down over the weekend
[08:13] <Laney> was warm but not hot here :)
[08:13] <larsu> *definitely
[08:13] <pitti> Laney: it has been crushingly hot the last two weeks
[08:13] <Laney> probably like 22-25
[08:13] <pitti> comfy!
[08:13] <Laney> and a huuuuuuuge storm (by uk standards) on friday night which passed right overhead
[08:14]  * Laney wonders if chrisccoulson had that too
[08:14] <chrisccoulson> We did!
[08:14] <Laney> \o/
[08:15]  * Noskcaj is enjoying winter
[08:16] <darkxst> Noskcaj, our winter is broken! way too warm here
[08:17] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'm in cairns ATM, so it's expected. It's still below zero back in armidale
[08:17] <Noskcaj> What's the temp in Melbourne?
[08:17] <darkxst> its been 15-20 most days
[08:18] <chrisccoulson> Laney, one of my old school friends posted a picture of their neighbours house the morning after the storm
[08:18] <chrisccoulson> (it got struck by lightning)
[08:18] <darkxst> Im in Woodend though, and 15 in winter is just not normal
[08:21] <Laney> chrisccoulson: oh... was it damaged?
[08:21] <chrisccoulson> Laney, it didn't look bad. It looks like it attached to the lead flashing around the chimney breast and then left a scorch mark down the side of the house
[08:22] <chrisccoulson> chimeny even, because it was on the outside
[08:28] <Laney> ah, could be worse
[09:20] <seb128> larsu, does https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/humanity/all-sizes-for-draw-accept/+merge/263865 fixes the issue for you? it doesn't for me :-/
[09:24] <larsu> seb128: oh? Running it now and it works perfectly. There's a bit of link renaming and file moving in there - maybe it got messed up in the process?
[09:24] <larsu> seb128: did you restart nautilus?
[09:25] <seb128> larsu, shrug, ignore me
[09:25] <seb128> I'm not awake yet
[09:25] <larsu> seb128: never! :)
[09:25] <larsu> (ignore you, I mean)
[09:25] <seb128> I applied the diff locally, of course that doesn't carry renames and symlinks over...
[09:25] <larsu> ah!
[09:25] <larsu> ya, that's the actual interesting change :)
[09:25] <seb128> yeah, and I read the mps and saw that
[09:26] <seb128> I just didn't want to build the package and didn't think that patch wouldn't do enough :p
[09:26] <larsu> ah, got it :) no worries!
[09:26] <larsu> I started scalable directories and started looking into moving lots of stuff over there
[09:26] <seb128> larsu, are they other humanity changes coming or should I land that one?
[09:27] <larsu> seb128: not yet, please. One more at least coming
[09:27] <seb128> ok, no hurry, thanks
[09:27] <larsu> actually let me finish that right now as I already know what the issue is
[09:27]  * larsu makes tea first though
[09:28] <larsu> seb128: if you know of more issues in the icon theme, now is the time (I'm working on the gedit icon size issue now)
[09:29] <seb128> larsu, let me have a look, but I don't have any in mind atm
[11:43] <seb128> yeah, today's snappy personal image boots to a working unity8 session!
[11:43] <seb128> willcooke, Laney ^
[11:44] <Laney> nice
[11:44] <Laney> what was the last bit?
[11:46] <seb128> Laney, do you have a specific issue in mind?
[11:46] <willcooke> seb128, wooo!  Great work!
[11:46] <seb128> vt switching is not working correctly under Xorg, but I enabled autologin, which workarounds it
[11:46] <seb128> also robert_ancell suggested we should enable u-s-c as system compositor
[11:47] <seb128> which also wouldn't have that issue
[11:47] <seb128> I'm going to look at that next
[11:47] <seb128> also unity8 desktop lock regressed, that got fixed in friday's landing
[13:39] <seb128> dobey, hey, you said you would merge in https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/software-center/gtk-has-icon/+merge/261867 and is that still on your list?
[13:39] <seb128> I uploaded to vivid/wily but having them in the vcs as well would be nice
[13:43] <dobey> seb128: yes. just been having my plate overflowing with hard problems the past couple weeks for the ota-5 deadlines
[13:43] <dobey> seb128: so, "soon" :)
[13:44] <seb128> dobey, no worry, just checking it was not forgot, thanks
[14:43] <mitya57> Hey, does anybody know whom I can contact for sni-qt merge proposals?
[14:45] <mitya57> (Or alternative question: is Renato Filho on IRC?)
[14:51] <larsu> mitya57: ya, renatu in #ubuntu-touch
[14:54] <mitya57> thanks larsu!
[15:31] <larsu> Laney: do you know of other apps that have the problem from bug #1463390 ?
[15:31] <larsu> turns out, this is due to gtk commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=f3ef3165df34ab509a7165165360680bf30dd0cb
[15:31] <larsu> which breaks for stock icons (which shouldn't be used anymore)
[15:32] <larsu> I guess we could fix gtk, but all that code is in some deprecated/ directories now
[15:35] <Laney> larsu: nein
[15:36] <Laney> why does it break for us but not adwaita?
[15:36] <larsu> they don't have .svg files in the non-scalable directorues
[15:36] <larsu> (apart from the spinner, apparently)
[15:37] <Laney> oh right
[15:37] <Laney> is it hard for us to stop doing that?
[15:37] <larsu> I don't know why we ever did it in the first place...
[15:37] <larsu> it's got to be pretty hard on cpu to always render svg
[15:38] <Laney> ya...
[15:38] <larsu> we could prerender them all - not sure how adwaita is doing that
[15:38] <larsu> but I mean, this is a legit gtk bug
[15:41] <Laney> can you see how to fix it while keeping their case?
[15:41] <Laney> do this only for scalable?
[15:42] <larsu> you mean the dir name "scalable"
[15:42] <larsu> that's just a convention, wouldn't like to hard-code that into gtk
[15:43] <Laney> ya
[15:43] <larsu> icon spec is a mess :/
[15:52] <rickspencer3> lol, I just spent the last week assuming that the I was doing something to make the sound indicator crash
[15:52] <rickspencer3> of course, I had "Show sound volume in the menu  bar" turned off
[15:52] <rickspencer3> this is the second time I have done this :)
[15:56] <seb128> yeah, you are not the first one to fall into that one!
[15:56] <Laney> weird preference
[15:57] <seb128> why?
[15:57] <seb128> we have the same for the other indicators
[15:57] <Laney> some of them
[15:58] <seb128> most of them
[15:58] <larsu> many of them
[15:58] <Laney> quality argument
[15:58] <seb128> datetime/battery/sound/keyboard
[15:58] <Laney> bye
[15:58] <seb128> ?
[15:58] <seb128> well, argument is "if it's missing for one tell us which one, we should fix it"
[15:58] <seb128> rather than just throw "some" in the air
[15:58] <Laney> session and network, and they are all presented differently
[15:59] <seb128> session is probably a special case
[15:59] <Laney> I can't hide the dropbox one either
[15:59] <seb128> it's not very optional to be able to log out
[15:59] <seb128> right, those are appindicators
[15:59] <Laney> I can press the power button
[15:59] <seb128> we don't have an ui to manage those
[16:00] <Laney> it's weird because it is so inconsistent
[16:00] <seb128> let me see if I can find the design
[16:00] <seb128> maybe it's just missing implementation
[16:00] <seb128> it shouldn't be inconsistent
[16:00] <seb128> the design is consistent iirc, we probably regressed in implemtation :-/
[16:01] <seb128> those are options in the different settings panel, usually at the bottom
[16:04] <Laney> ya bluetooth/sound/keyboard have this
[16:07] <seb128> power has a combo because it has more states
[16:07] <seb128> I can't find the session menu design now
[16:08] <Laney> it's not that important :)
[16:50] <Laney> Noskcaj: will upload your merge tomorrow btw
[17:00] <Laney> see you!
[20:02] <willcooke> hey robert_ancell
[20:02] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hey
[20:25] <willcooke> g'night all