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mwhudsonhmm01:11
mwhudsonare the gcc cross compilers built for all arches?01:11
mwhudsone.g. can i install arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc on arm64?01:12
wgrantmwhudson: gcc-*-cross arm64 builds produce an arm-linux-gnueabi cross-compiler, yes.01:33
wgrant(not all arches, though. powerpc has no cross-compilers, and ppc64el only has powerpc)01:33
mwhudsonwgrant: oh hm01:34
mwhudsonwgrant: E: Unable to locate package arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc01:37
wgrantmwhudson: You mean gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf?01:43
wgrantThe binary and package names are not quite the same.01:43
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mwhudsonwgrant: bah03:09
mwhudson:-)03:09
mwhudsonhmm03:51
mwhudsonso which packages do i need to install to run armhf stuff on arm6403:51
lifelessqemu-user ?03:52
lifelessor possibly qemu-user-static03:53
lifelessplus you'll need the userspace libraries etc if you're not running a full VM03:53
mwhudsonlifeless: err03:54
mwhudsonno, the cpu supports the 32 bit arm insns03:54
mwhudsonthis is more like running ia32 on amd6403:54
lifelessmwhudson: oh sorry, I read 'arm64' as 'amd64'03:55
lifelessmwhudson: total fritzout03:55
mwhudson:)03:55
mwhudsonso very easily done03:55
lifelessso yeah in that case add the right multiarch03:55
lifelessapt-get update03:55
mwhudson(about the best argument that people should have used aarch64 like arm wanted)03:55
lifelessand then install the thing you want03:55
lifeless*I think*03:56
mwhudsonlifeless: seems plausible03:57
infinitymwhudson: Shouldn't need to install anything at all, if you're doing it in an armhf chroot.  If not then, yes, you'd need to add armhf as a secondary arch and install whatever bits you want.04:33
mwhudsonhm porter-arm64 has a wily-armhf chroot but no vivid one04:35
mwhudsonguess that works04:35
mwhudsoninfinity: thanks for the cluebat to look for that :)04:35
mwhudson(wily-armhf)mwh@rugby:~/go/src$ ./trivial04:35
mwhudsonSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:35
mwhudsonprogress!04:36
infinitySort of. :)04:36
infinitylibruntime,sync-atomic,math,runtime-cgo,sync.so04:39
infinityThat's quite the library name.04:39
mwhudsonshush you04:40
infinityTHAT'S QUITE THE LIBRARY NAME.04:40
pittiGood morning04:50
pittiinfinity: config is /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf04:52
mwhudsonuh huh does -Bsymbolic-functions on armhf only work with gold or something?04:52
pittiinfinity: see man timesyncd.conf04:52
pittiinfinity: merges> cool, thanks04:53
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dholbachgood morning07:00
dholbach@pilot in07:00
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ari-tczewis it possible to get extra PPA or something with supported archs like ppc64el and arm64?10:18
ari-tczewit would be much useful for patch testing10:18
cjwatsonari-tczew: arm64 is possible, but only via qemu-user-static, which doesn't work on that well for a lot of things.  But we hope to be able to fix this very soon - a POWER-based builder cloud is almost working, and we have the hardware installed to do the same for ARM shortly afterwards10:22
ari-tczewcjwatson: ok, assuming: no at this moment.10:22
cjwatsonindeed, unfortunately.  but there is hope.10:23
ari-tczewthat's already something10:23
cjwatsonI expect that within a small number of months both Ubuntu and (virtualised) PPAs will be building on the same infrastructure, and then it's easy.10:24
ari-tczewcjwatson: will be arm64/ppc64el available for all PPA users or only for extra ask?10:25
cjwatsonari-tczew: Initially, available on request.  Once we're confident in it we'll probably make the architecture selection self-service.10:26
cjwatsonBuilding just for x86 probably remains a reasonable default.10:27
ari-tczewcjwatson: ok, thanks for the info10:44
hjdAnyone have an idea what could cause the difference between Debian and Ubuntu, regarding bug 1471741?10:51
ubottubug 1471741 in frosted (Ubuntu) "frosted FTBFS ImportError: No module named builtins" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147174110:51
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jamespagezyga, around? I'm debugging a test failure in django-testscenarios with new python-testtools in wily and the failures have me scratching my head11:47
jamespagezyga, for context - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-adt-django-testscenarios/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console11:47
zygajamespage: re11:52
zygajamespage: yes11:52
zygajamespage: looking11:52
zygajamespage: that looks like assertions on how django manages transactions11:53
zygajamespage: perhaps new django has changed behavior there11:53
jamespagezyga, well it was new testtools which triggers the failure - confirmed that11:53
zygajamespage: ah11:53
zygajamespage: ok, let me look again then11:53
jamespagezyga, other problems I've seen where caused by testtools always using unittest2 as its base now11:53
jamespagezyga, thankyou - much appreciated11:54
zygajamespage: how is that causing problems?11:54
jamespagezyga, we had one issue where using unittest.skipTest was not working11:54
jamespagezyga, that's probably not related to this11:54
zygajamespage: mm11:54
zygajamespage: unittest.skipTest or unittest2.skipTest?11:54
jamespagezyga, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146755811:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1467558 in testtools "testtools.skip decorator not functional with unittest.TestCase as base class" [Undecided,New]11:55
jamespagethat's the bug11:55
zygaah11:55
zygaI'm not using testtools anymore so I'm not up to date, let me see django-testscenarios first11:55
zygajamespage: hmm, so whatever is causing this11:59
zygajamespage: the tests fail because django constraints on how transaction tests are started don't work11:59
zygajamespage: that might be testscenarios or testscenarios + django-testscenarios11:59
zygajamespage: or all that + new django12:00
zygajamespage: how can I reproduce that?12:00
zygajamespage: wily?12:00
dholbach@pilot out12:01
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dokopitti, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210709148/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.python-apt_0.9.3.5ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz  again changed proxy setup?12:19
pittidoko: buildds are cjwatson and wgrant's domains, but I suppose it could be related to moving builds to scalingstack?12:20
pittidoko: that certainly looks like a bad/missing $no_proxy12:20
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jamespagezyga, yeah - wily with testtools from proposed12:32
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xphereshello13:01
xpheresanyone has a ubuntu tablet or phone?13:02
xpheresif so, please test my app https://uappexplorer.com/app/analyticaltranslatordemo.xpheresdev13:02
xpheresthere's no way I can make the emulator work13:03
cyphermoxgood morning!13:03
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cjwatsonpitti: that build isn't in scalingstack13:19
cjwatsondoko: there are no proxy-related environment variables set by the builder (see the "User Environment" section), so anything here must be set by the build itself13:21
mitya57sil2100, hi, can I land appmenu-qt5 myself?14:01
sil2100mitya57: hey! There's one more fix I want to target, but I'm not entirely done yet14:01
mitya57Ok, no problem14:01
xpheresdoes anyone knows if there are people working to fix the emulator?14:43
tewardxpheres: 'emulator'?14:45
xpheresyes for ubuntu touch14:45
xpheresI'm developing an app14:45
xpheresbut I have to do it blind14:45
xpheresor asking for help to people who have ubuntu mobiles14:45
davmor2xpheres: known issue it is being looked at but it is pretty low level stuff so might take a while to fix completely, ref emulator14:45
xpheresa pitty14:45
xpheresI won't work anymore with ubuntu apps till is fixed, I can not see the results and many weird stuff appears in the guy14:46
xpheresgui sorry14:46
xpheresand I can not afford an ubuntu phone right now14:47
cjwatsonpitti: still around?  we could use a ~techboard member to create a "15.04" series for us in ubuntu-rtm, status "Future" (won't be used for publishing, just for bug tracking)15:11
cjwatsonwell, bugs and translations15:11
slangasekcjwatson: I'm around fwiw15:18
cjwatsonslangasek: ah, you want to do the honours then?  should be straightforward on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+addseries if you agree with this work, we don't need the complex derived series initialisation here15:21
slangasekcjwatson, pitti: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04 - status is currently 'future'15:21
slangasekcjwatson: er, I mean 'experimental'15:21
cjwatsonI think either of those statuses is fine15:22
cjwatsonslangasek: could you do the same on qastaging?15:22
cjwatsonhttps://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/phone-overlay-translations/+merge/263819 is the immediate driver for this FWIW15:22
slangasekcjwatson: also done15:26
cjwatsonslangasek: thanks15:35
pitticjwatson: sorted now, right?15:38
cjwatsonpitti: Yep, thanks15:43
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pittislangasek: do you have some minutes today to re-review https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/britney/britney2-ubuntu-amqp/+merge/263679 ?16:14
pittislangasek: I have another branch with teh corresponding results collection, I did a run on britney with that16:14
pittithis triggered 430 tests which the poor underpowered scalingstack is grinding through now, but that's a nice smoketest :)16:15
pitti(I'll submit that MP after landing the AMQP bits)16:15
* pitti waves good night16:18
slangasekpitti: yes, re-reviewed and merged.16:23
slangasekpitti: are you ready for this to be rolled out to production, or do you want to be around for that?16:23
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pittislangasek: thanks for reviewing!16:54
pittislangasek: should be fine, with the actual config files it should be a no-op16:54
pittislangasek: but please don't roll it out yet, as the current backlog is huge (see above)16:54
pittislangasek: I'd like to give it a day or two to settle down16:54
pittiqueues are at 340, from 430 from ~ 4 hours ago16:55
pittislangasek: err, sorry -- of course you can roll it out, it won't actually do requests until we set the amqp config option16:55
pitti(but there's no hurry to do so)16:55
pittiI'll get the swift MP ready tomorrow16:56
slangasekpitti: ok; I'll roll it out all the same just so it's done16:56
ogra_cjwatson, hmm, do seeds know about multiarch ?17:00
* ogra_ needs to seed libc:i386 into the amd64 snappy images somehow 17:01
ogra_(or infinity ^^)17:01
cjwatsonogra_: No17:10
ogra_hmpf, k ...17:10
cjwatsonThat is Hard (TM)17:10
ogra_yeah ...17:10
cjwatsonProbably better to just force it in from livecd-rootfs17:10
ogra_and i guess add-apt-package in live-build wont handle it either17:10
cjwatsonOr whatever17:10
cjwatsonNot sure, experiment :)17:10
cjwatson(locally!)17:10
ogra_haha17:10
ogra_worst case i can make a metapackage that depends on it ... but i'd rather not17:11
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gordon_Hello! I initially came here to look for hire to get involved page but I guess I've found nice link in topic. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs I will give something to fix and then ask again :)18:04
mterryhappyaron, hello!  I am looking at fcitx-unikey for main inclusion, and I happened to notice a small typo.  in debian/copyright, the first copyright stanza description should mention GPL 3 instead of GPL 2.  That's all!19:24
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soeehi, what kernel version is planned to be shipped with Wily ?21:58
sarnoldsoee: looks like 4.0 or 4.1 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-May/038770.html22:01
soeesarnold: ok, thank you for the information22:01
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infinitysoee: I think 4.2 was the plan, actually.22:39
infinitysarnold: ^22:39
sarnoldinfinity: man I feel old22:40
soee;]22:40
cyphermoxzul: are you aware that tgt you merged a month ago is still in -proposed? I'd like to fix the test so it works properly, since it blocks other stuff, but I don't have anything to run proper testing of the pacakge23:25
mwhudsonhm, so i've gotten as far as installing enough bits on my arm64 system that i can run exectuables23:32
mwhudsonbut how can i debug them?23:32
mwhudsongdb says unhelpful things like23:33
mwhudsonwarning: Selected architecture arm is not compatible with reported target architecture aarch6423:33
mwhudsoni guess i can just make a chroot23:33
zulcyphermox: be my guest23:51
zulcyphermox: ill take a look though23:51
infinityadt-run [21:55:24]: test daemon: [-----------------------23:51
infinityERROR: tgtd IS NOT RUNNING23:51
infinityadt-run [21:55:25]: test daemon: -----------------------]23:52
infinityI can't think that needs much of a special setup to test why it's broken. :P23:52
infinityAnd, indeed, installing tgt doesn't start it.23:55

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