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viphi ho08:15
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lordievaderGood morning.08:28
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soeei see kernel 4 landed in Wily :)09:56
soeeone error with latest updates while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-x11_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.de09:57
lordievaderNice, 4.1?09:58
soeenope09:59
soeebrb reboot09:59
lordievader4.0?09:59
lordievadersoee: Is it 4.0?10:01
soeelordievader: yes10:01
lordievader... 4.1.1 is already marked stable.10:01
soeelordievader: isint it RC ?10:01
lordievaderNo, that is 4.2.10:01
soeeabyway, one more interesting thing:10:01
soeebefore i had some messages when booting like FIFO something etc. etc.10:02
soeenot system boots without aby message :)10:02
soeejust plymouth -> sddm10:02
soee*now10:02
soeelordievader: but i asked about this (waht version will be shipped with Wily) yesterday on #ubuntu-devel10:03
soee[wtorek, 7 lipca 2015] [00:39:26 CEST] <infinity> soee: I think 4.2 was the plan, actually.10:03
soeeso maybe step by step they will release 4.210:04
lordievaderAh, will that be LTS? Or will Ubuntu again ship an EOL kernel?10:04
soeeno idea :)10:04
lordievaderBoth Trusty and Vivid have EOL kernels...10:05
soeewhat we have now in Wily: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/07/snapshot8.png10:06
soeeoh another good news https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/9hmSJPsNWiP :)10:16
lordievaderFaster startup is allways good :D10:16
soeesomeone with intel + nvidia machine ?12:20
BluesKajHowdy all12:21
soeeRiddell: what QT version will Wilu use - 5.5 maybe ?12:33
soee*Wily12:33
lordievadersoee: Riddell is on vacation ;)12:36
soeeaaaaahh :D12:36
BluesKajhe needs one12:36
lordievaderI bet.12:36
soeesitter: there is one trick for fans but im not sure what it does exactly:12:38
soeerun: sudo powertop and in Tunables try setting various items from Bad to Good12:38
sittersoee: it would reduce power consumption thus reduce heat thus reduce fan activity xD12:39
soee:)12:40
shadeslayersgclark: sitter someone needs to fix kdenlive 12:48
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/4:15.04.2-0ubuntu112:48
soee+112:57
* clivejo giggles at the page title of http://kci.pangea.pub/13:00
shadeslayerclivejo: fix your wily!13:22
clivejoI didnt know it was broken!13:23
clivejomaybe its just an Irish thing, but a willy is a totally different thing!13:24
clivejohow do I save the default Master Channel in wily?13:32
clivejoit keeps defaulting to the capture volume, so my hardware voloume keys dont work13:33
shadeslayerclivejo: kmix -> set master channel13:48
clivejoshadeslayer: yes, but it wont remember that selection, next time I reboot it goes back to capture device 14:24
shadeslayerdunno, works for me here14:25
ahoneybunshadeslayer: maybe delete things in ~/.kde ?14:26
shadeslayer*shrug*14:30
clivejodo you know where it saves its settings?14:30
shadeslayer~/.kde/config/kmixrc ?14:31
shadeslayeror just search for kmixrc14:31
clivejoweird DefaultCardOnStart=PulseAudio.Capture_Devices.1.default14:35
clivejohopefully it will not change on next reboot14:38
shadeslayeranyone know of a dummy package in ubuntu14:50
shadeslayerthat's harmless14:50
shadeslayerI reckon hello would work14:51
shadeslayerkwin takes way too long to build15:01
shadeslayersrsly15:01
* mgraesslin agrees15:01
mgraesslinI'm trying to compile on the old exopc currently15:02
mgraesslinand it's annoyingly slow15:02
shadeslayer^^15:02
shadeslayerhttp://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kwin_binary_unstable/arch=armhf/86/console15:02
shadeslayerwaiterooing15:02
mgraesslinI now aborted and started again with icecc15:02
shadeslayer:D15:02
shadeslayeratleast you have icecc15:03
mgraesslinyeah15:03
shadeslayerall of this shit needs to be faster15:04
shadeslayerall of it I say15:04
mgraesslinat least we no longer compile KWin twice ;-)15:05
shadeslayerthis is true :P15:05
shadeslayerJenkins's scheduling algorithm also does not take into account that you'll have 2 jobs with large CPU usage15:06
shadeslayerso I have khtml and kwin on the same slave15:06
shadeslayerwhich is fun15:06
mgraesslineheh15:06
mgraesslinoh which one is larger?15:06
shadeslayerlarger?15:06
mgraesslinin sloc15:06
shadeslayerah, no clue15:06
mgraesslinkwin is 11359715:06
shadeslayersurely you have the khtml source checked out :P15:07
mgraesslinkhtml is 23204715:07
mgraesslinnow I am disappointed15:08
mgraesslinkwin is still not larger than an outdated web rendering engine15:08
sittershadeslayer: there's a scheduler plugin that changes the behavior to use the node with least load15:09
sitterwhich generally should be more suitable15:09
sitterdefault scheduler attempts to use same node as last time which is nice when you recycle from a build cache but pretty shitty when you want load spread15:10
shadeslayerhttps://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Least+Load+Plugin ?15:11
sitteryep15:11
sitterno wait15:11
sitteryes15:11
sitterthat one ^^15:11
mgraesslinbut kwin now is on an all-time high with sloc15:11
shadeslayerxD15:11
mgraesslinalthough we dropped oxygen15:12
mgraesslinand kwayland15:12
mgraesslinand this year (since Jan) we increased by ~10 ksloc according to openhub15:12
shadeslayersitter: I have to enable it on every job?15:12
sittershadeslayer: I think so15:12
shadeslayergood god @_@15:12
sitterjust change your template?15:12
shadeslayeryeah15:12
shadeslayerI guess15:12
shadeslayeroh15:13
shadeslayeroh oh15:13
shadeslayerThe plugin requires no global configuration it will just replace the default load balancer at startup. Jobs can be configured to utilize the default Jenkins load balancer if required.15:13
shadeslayerso nothing required15:13
sitterthere you go then15:13
sitterreading saved the day :P15:13
shadeslayer:D15:13
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shadeslayersitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11836427/15:57
shadeslayersitter: thoughts?15:57
sitterdifferent symbosl15:58
shadeslayerhuh?15:58
shadeslayerwould result in different symbols?15:58
shadeslayerI don't track symbols on DCI15:58
shadeslayerbug 1472320 is wat16:00
ubottubug 1472320 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "package kpackagekit 0.5.4-0ubuntu4.3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/kde4/kcm_kpk_addrm.so'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147232016:00
shadeslayerDistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.0416:00
sgclarkshadeslayer: not sure how I uploaded to wily with not working on wily. I also don't know how to fix arm without arm.16:03
shadeslayersgclark: I hear CI helps :P16:03
shadeslayerassuming kdenlive is CI'd on armhf16:03
sgclarknot for KDE16:04
shadeslayerI meant the Kubuntu CI :)16:04
sgclarkahh 16:04
sgclarkI am still curious how I did a wily upload in my sleep16:05
shadeslayerit's not16:05
shadeslayersgclark: lol16:05
shadeslayersgclark: it's probably part of applications16:05
sgclarkok16:05
sgclarklet me look into it16:05
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shadeslayersitter: so, what about that diff now16:28
shadeslayersgclark: fwiw I think you need to make kdenlive build dep on libgles2-mesa-dev on armhf16:30
sgclarkshadeslayer: oh ty, hope that works, dunno anything bout arm16:30
shadeslayersgclark: and DCI has CI for kdenlive via kubuntu_unstable16:31
shadeslayerhttp://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kdenlive_binary_unstable/16:31
sgclarkok thanks16:31
shadeslayercool16:31
shadeslayeroh 16:32
shadeslayerit's working I think16:32
shadeslayerupto 93%16:32
shadeslayersomehow pulls in libgles2-mesa-de16:33
shadeslayer*libgles2-mesa-dev16:33
sgclarkwonderful16:33
shadeslayerapt should get a award for being magic16:33
shadeslayersgclark: might be useful to explicitly specify this still though16:33
sgclarklol16:33
sgclarkok16:33
shadeslayerassuming it builds16:34
shadeslayerdo you know how to do it?16:34
shadeslayergod this seat is shite, no shoulder support at all16:34
sgclarksort of not really16:34
shadeslayersgclark: you can say libgl1-mesa-dev [!armhf] , libgles1-mesa-dev [armhf] in Build-Depends16:34
shadeslayeror just replace gl1 by gles16:35
shadeslayernot sure if that'll work on x8616:35
sgclarkok ty16:35
shadeslayerah no16:35
shadeslayerfailed16:35
shadeslayerperhaps it won't work afterall16:35
shadeslayernot sure16:35
sgclarkI really know nothing about arm, no clue how I can fix this16:36
shadeslayer16:37:51 ../../src/monitor/videoglwidget.cpp:74:18: error: ‘GL_FLAT’ was not declared in this scope16:36
shadeslayerthat's the error16:36
shadeslayerGL_FLAT comes from opengl, I do wonder if it's defined in GLES16:37
shadeslayersitter: is bluedevil athing?16:47
shadeslayercuz my jobs be failing, and I don't see nothing in KCI16:48
sgclarkshadeslayer: looking through the git history there once was a patch to make opengl optional on arm because cmake never finds it, but it vanished . Is this something of interest? Otherwise I really have no idea how to fix this.16:56
shadeslayersgclark: possibly it vanished because it was made a hard dep?16:58
sgclarkgit history does not show the actual vanishing act that I can find, it patched the cmake file required to optional.16:59
sgclarkthough your error would show that cmake did find it?17:00
sgclarkshow again I am clueless17:00
sgclarker so17:01
shadeslayersgclark: it does find it17:10
shadeslayerhowever, the fact that it finds it and the fact it works are mutually exclusive ;)17:10
sgclarklol17:10
shadeslayeranyway, don't worry about kdenlive :P17:11
sgclarkwhew ok17:11
shadeslayeropengl + arm isn't something easy to figure out17:11
shadeslayermmm17:13
shadeslayersomeone broke ECM17:13
shadeslayerwat17:15
ovidiu-florinif I install a package from CLI, how do I suppress it from asking for input? so I can script the install?17:29
sgclark-y17:30
yofelyou can pre-answer debconf questions, give me a sec17:31
ovidiu-florin-y only accepts17:33
ovidiu-florinfor example: mysql-server asks for a root password. How do I skip it? or provide one to it?17:33
yofelovidiu-florin: e.g. you can do something like:17:33
yofelecho "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password password <db_admin_pwd>" | debconf-set-selections17:33
yofelto prevent mysql-server for asking for the admin password17:33
yofelheh17:34
sgclarklol nice17:34
yofelactually, needs another line for the PW confirmation:17:34
yofelecho "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password_again password <db_admin_pwd>" | debconf-set-selections17:34
yofeldebconf-get-selections on an installed system will show you all options that you can set17:35
ovidiu-florinyofel: and I suppose I do that before installing mysql-server, right?17:36
yofelright17:36
soeesgclark: ping me if be able to fix kdenlive, i will test it and install :)17:37
sgclarksoee: sorry that is beyond my abilities17:38
soeeoh, who should i talk about it ? :)17:38
BluesKajhaving more crashes in system settimngs than usual after the latest upgrades on 15.10 alpha1. Usually one crash per session , but now it's eveytime i launch it17:39
soeeBluesKaj: ow, it works pretty good to me now, i had also a lot of crashes but last days it seems to be much better17:40
soeeare you on lastest upgrades ?17:40
ovidiu-florinsoee: what problems are you having with it?17:40
soeeovidiu-florin: with ?17:40
ovidiu-florinkdenlive17:41
soeeovidiu-florin: in Wily there are some conflicts i think and it wants to remove translations files etc.17:41
soeeshadeslayer: am i right ^17:41
shadeslayerinstall kdenlive from proposed17:41
shadeslayerand then install the locales17:42
shadeslayershould work then17:42
shadeslayerI'm going to look at kdenlive in a few days17:42
soeeok, thank you17:42
BluesKajjust crashes when I make changes to themes mostly ...looking for a dewsktop/icon/apllication theme that I can live with, but most the choices aren't to my taste17:43
BluesKajmostly17:43
soee:)17:47
ovidiu-florinwhy aren't all the widgets from kde-apps.org shown in the install new widgets dialog?17:56
soeesomeone on Wily ?17:57
clivejosoee: Im on wily17:59
soeecan you confrm that setting "Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows" in Compositor does not saves the set value ? its always false ?17:59
clivejoI would confirm if I knew what on earth you just said!17:59
ovidiu-florin:)))18:02
clivejowhere is that setting?18:06
clivejosoee: where is that setting?18:06
soeeSystem Settings -> Display & Monitor -> Compositor18:07
clivejoshoot, I was looking in kwin18:07
soeeseems like kwin is some kind of broken i think18:07
clivejoits unchecked18:08
soeetry to check it save, exit system settings or Display & Monior sectin18:09
clivejooh dear18:09
clivejocrashed18:09
soeeand go back here to see it if is checked18:09
clivejoits still checked, but crashed18:10
clivejoIll try a reboot18:11
clivejoand konsole is crashing again on exit :(18:11
soeehmm18:11
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clivejosoee: still checked after reboot18:14
soeeoO18:15
soeeclivejo: do you have latest updates in Wily ?18:15
clivejoas of about 6 hours ago18:15
clivejoyippeee kmix is using the right settings!18:16
clivejosoee: also using staging-plasma ppa18:17
clivejoand panfaust/kubuntu-kf5-experiments/ubuntu18:17
clivejofor that ark and systemd fixes18:17
soeei do not have any extra ppas18:18
clivejois OpenGL 3 not stable?18:19
soeenot sure, im using it18:22
soeeclivejo: if you have that optin we were talking about set18:22
clivejooh, that seems to have fixed my fuzzy fonts issue18:22
soeecan you paste .config/kwinrc [Compositing] section ?18:22
clivejoI changed scale method to crisp and using opengl3.118:23
clivejogimme a sec18:23
clivejosoee: https://paste.kde.org/pxrmraap018:24
soeeerkhm, System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display.18:25
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soeeafter i manually chcnged that setting in kwinrc it seems it sees it as it shoudl18:29
clivejoIm using plasma 5.3.2 from the staging ppa18:30
clivejomaybe its fixed there?18:31
clivejopowerdevil seems to be fixed too18:31
soeeclivejo: staging-pp has teh same Plasma as in archive18:34
soeeso no difference18:34
soeeoh lord seems liek chromium-browser witg gpu acceleration enabled is so buggy :/18:35
clivejosoee: are we using wayland yet?18:35
soeenope18:36
clivejoare you involved in it at all?18:37
soeeclivejo: hehe no :)18:38
clivejoId like to learn and maybe do some testing18:38
soeeclivejo: the only person i know more or less you should ask about weyland etc. is Martin18:39
soeeclivejo: worth following https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts18:40
clivejothanks :)18:40
clivejooh hes blue systems?18:43
ahoneybunsitter was posting on G+ about Wayland this morning clivejo and soee18:47
soeeyup iv seen it18:47
clivejoahoneybun: are widgets individually packaged?18:50
ahoneybunclivejo: plasma widgets?18:50
clivejoyeah18:51
ahoneybunI belive so18:51
clivejoI see them on kde apps18:51
clivejowas wondering about getting them packaged18:51
ahoneybunhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=vivid&section=all&arch=any&keywords=plasma-widget&searchon=names18:51
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* ahoneybun needs plasma-scriptengine-python built18:53
clivejois it binary?18:55
ahoneybunno clue18:55
ahoneybunthe project might be dead anyway18:56
ahoneybunlast upload was in lucid18:56
ahoneybun10.0418:56
clivejohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/plasma-scriptengine-python18:57
clivejoin utopic18:57
ahoneybunyea that18:57
ahoneybunbut the python end is needed for http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/plasma-widget-googlecalendar18:57
ahoneybunand the widget is from lucid18:57
ahoneybungood old Plasma 418:57
ahoneybunso confusing18:58
clivejoyeah18:58
clivejoI thought plasma was only 518:58
ahoneybunwell I mean KDE 418:58
clivejoI know, but the package name is plasma18:59
ahoneybunyea18:59
clivejokinda assumed it means 518:59
yofelright, it is confusing. Back in kde4 we had plasma 2, it was just called kde workspace 4 back then18:59
ahoneybunthe widget is not in debian19:00
ahoneybunso might be from kde-apps.org19:00
clivejohttps://packages.debian.org/unstable/plasma-scriptengine-python19:00
clivejothats the package in deb19:00
ahoneybun4.1119:00
ahoneybunI think that is old19:00
yofelthe scriptengine was part of kde-workspace back then19:00
yofelno idea where it lives these days..19:01
yofelshadeslayer: ^ ?19:01
clivejoit seems to be a collection of py scripts19:01
yofelright, it was the plasma scripting interface for python19:02
ahoneybunseems like it would be a mess at best to get it bac19:03
ahoneybun*back19:03
clivejocame across this "Python scripting is not supported in Plasma 5, so the package is useless in Plasma 5 world."19:04
ahoneybunI see19:04
yofelwell, there you go, bummer19:04
ahoneybunyea and there plasma goes crashing19:05
yofelyou're not used to that yet? -.-19:05
yofel</sarcasm>19:05
ahoneybunI am but it is getting less and less19:05
ahoneybunSeems if the widget is not included with Plasma 5 by default are broken (what I think)19:07
clivejoahoneybun: which widget you looking for?19:07
ahoneybunI was just going though the list19:08
ahoneybunhaving google calendar on the desktop would be nice though19:08
yofelwell, anything that's not explicitely written for plasma 5 won't work19:08
clivejomight be update for plasma519:08
ahoneybunyofel: that reinforces my point19:08
clivejojust needs packaged19:08
yofelright19:08
clivejoahoneybun: I guess this isnt what you want - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Google+Task+-+web+?content=16982419:14
ahoneybunnot Task19:15
shadeslayeryofel: I don't think we have scriptengines anymore19:21
shadeslayerjust js AFAIK19:21
yofelack19:21
shadeslayeromg omg my CI is back into shape I think19:22
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yofelE: 10mount: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on wily-armhf,20:15
yofelsbuild, are you kidding me?!?20:15
clivejooh that sounds painful20:17
valorieclivejo: I'm sure I've seen some spam with that same title20:23
yofeloh, right, overlayfs changed semantics in kernel 3.18 -.-20:24

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