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vip | hi ho | 08:15 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 08:28 |
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soee | i see kernel 4 landed in Wily :) | 09:56 |
soee | one error with latest updates while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-x11_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.de | 09:57 |
lordievader | Nice, 4.1? | 09:58 |
soee | nope | 09:59 |
soee | brb reboot | 09:59 |
lordievader | 4.0? | 09:59 |
lordievader | soee: Is it 4.0? | 10:01 |
soee | lordievader: yes | 10:01 |
lordievader | ... 4.1.1 is already marked stable. | 10:01 |
soee | lordievader: isint it RC ? | 10:01 |
lordievader | No, that is 4.2. | 10:01 |
soee | abyway, one more interesting thing: | 10:01 |
soee | before i had some messages when booting like FIFO something etc. etc. | 10:02 |
soee | not system boots without aby message :) | 10:02 |
soee | just plymouth -> sddm | 10:02 |
soee | *now | 10:02 |
soee | lordievader: but i asked about this (waht version will be shipped with Wily) yesterday on #ubuntu-devel | 10:03 |
soee | [wtorek, 7 lipca 2015] [00:39:26 CEST] <infinity> soee: I think 4.2 was the plan, actually. | 10:03 |
soee | so maybe step by step they will release 4.2 | 10:04 |
lordievader | Ah, will that be LTS? Or will Ubuntu again ship an EOL kernel? | 10:04 |
soee | no idea :) | 10:04 |
lordievader | Both Trusty and Vivid have EOL kernels... | 10:05 |
soee | what we have now in Wily: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/07/snapshot8.png | 10:06 |
soee | oh another good news https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/9hmSJPsNWiP :) | 10:16 |
lordievader | Faster startup is allways good :D | 10:16 |
soee | someone with intel + nvidia machine ? | 12:20 |
BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:21 |
soee | Riddell: what QT version will Wilu use - 5.5 maybe ? | 12:33 |
soee | *Wily | 12:33 |
lordievader | soee: Riddell is on vacation ;) | 12:36 |
soee | aaaaahh :D | 12:36 |
BluesKaj | he needs one | 12:36 |
lordievader | I bet. | 12:36 |
soee | sitter: there is one trick for fans but im not sure what it does exactly: | 12:38 |
soee | run: sudo powertop and in Tunables try setting various items from Bad to Good | 12:38 |
sitter | soee: it would reduce power consumption thus reduce heat thus reduce fan activity xD | 12:39 |
soee | :) | 12:40 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: sitter someone needs to fix kdenlive | 12:48 |
shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/4:15.04.2-0ubuntu1 | 12:48 |
soee | +1 | 12:57 |
* clivejo giggles at the page title of http://kci.pangea.pub/ | 13:00 | |
shadeslayer | clivejo: fix your wily! | 13:22 |
clivejo | I didnt know it was broken! | 13:23 |
clivejo | maybe its just an Irish thing, but a willy is a totally different thing! | 13:24 |
clivejo | how do I save the default Master Channel in wily? | 13:32 |
clivejo | it keeps defaulting to the capture volume, so my hardware voloume keys dont work | 13:33 |
shadeslayer | clivejo: kmix -> set master channel | 13:48 |
clivejo | shadeslayer: yes, but it wont remember that selection, next time I reboot it goes back to capture device | 14:24 |
shadeslayer | dunno, works for me here | 14:25 |
ahoneybun | shadeslayer: maybe delete things in ~/.kde ? | 14:26 |
shadeslayer | *shrug* | 14:30 |
clivejo | do you know where it saves its settings? | 14:30 |
shadeslayer | ~/.kde/config/kmixrc ? | 14:31 |
shadeslayer | or just search for kmixrc | 14:31 |
clivejo | weird DefaultCardOnStart=PulseAudio.Capture_Devices.1.default | 14:35 |
clivejo | hopefully it will not change on next reboot | 14:38 |
shadeslayer | anyone know of a dummy package in ubuntu | 14:50 |
shadeslayer | that's harmless | 14:50 |
shadeslayer | I reckon hello would work | 14:51 |
shadeslayer | kwin takes way too long to build | 15:01 |
shadeslayer | srsly | 15:01 |
* mgraesslin agrees | 15:01 | |
mgraesslin | I'm trying to compile on the old exopc currently | 15:02 |
mgraesslin | and it's annoyingly slow | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | ^^ | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kwin_binary_unstable/arch=armhf/86/console | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | waiterooing | 15:02 |
mgraesslin | I now aborted and started again with icecc | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | :D | 15:02 |
shadeslayer | atleast you have icecc | 15:03 |
mgraesslin | yeah | 15:03 |
shadeslayer | all of this shit needs to be faster | 15:04 |
shadeslayer | all of it I say | 15:04 |
mgraesslin | at least we no longer compile KWin twice ;-) | 15:05 |
shadeslayer | this is true :P | 15:05 |
shadeslayer | Jenkins's scheduling algorithm also does not take into account that you'll have 2 jobs with large CPU usage | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | so I have khtml and kwin on the same slave | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | which is fun | 15:06 |
mgraesslin | eheh | 15:06 |
mgraesslin | oh which one is larger? | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | larger? | 15:06 |
mgraesslin | in sloc | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | ah, no clue | 15:06 |
mgraesslin | kwin is 113597 | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | surely you have the khtml source checked out :P | 15:07 |
mgraesslin | khtml is 232047 | 15:07 |
mgraesslin | now I am disappointed | 15:08 |
mgraesslin | kwin is still not larger than an outdated web rendering engine | 15:08 |
sitter | shadeslayer: there's a scheduler plugin that changes the behavior to use the node with least load | 15:09 |
sitter | which generally should be more suitable | 15:09 |
sitter | default scheduler attempts to use same node as last time which is nice when you recycle from a build cache but pretty shitty when you want load spread | 15:10 |
shadeslayer | https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Least+Load+Plugin ? | 15:11 |
sitter | yep | 15:11 |
sitter | no wait | 15:11 |
sitter | yes | 15:11 |
sitter | that one ^^ | 15:11 |
mgraesslin | but kwin now is on an all-time high with sloc | 15:11 |
shadeslayer | xD | 15:11 |
mgraesslin | although we dropped oxygen | 15:12 |
mgraesslin | and kwayland | 15:12 |
mgraesslin | and this year (since Jan) we increased by ~10 ksloc according to openhub | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | sitter: I have to enable it on every job? | 15:12 |
sitter | shadeslayer: I think so | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | good god @_@ | 15:12 |
sitter | just change your template? | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | I guess | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | oh | 15:13 |
shadeslayer | oh oh | 15:13 |
shadeslayer | The plugin requires no global configuration it will just replace the default load balancer at startup. Jobs can be configured to utilize the default Jenkins load balancer if required. | 15:13 |
shadeslayer | so nothing required | 15:13 |
sitter | there you go then | 15:13 |
sitter | reading saved the day :P | 15:13 |
shadeslayer | :D | 15:13 |
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shadeslayer | sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11836427/ | 15:57 |
shadeslayer | sitter: thoughts? | 15:57 |
sitter | different symbosl | 15:58 |
shadeslayer | huh? | 15:58 |
shadeslayer | would result in different symbols? | 15:58 |
shadeslayer | I don't track symbols on DCI | 15:58 |
shadeslayer | bug 1472320 is wat | 16:00 |
ubottu | bug 1472320 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "package kpackagekit 0.5.4-0ubuntu4.3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/kde4/kcm_kpk_addrm.so'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472320 | 16:00 |
shadeslayer | DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 | 16:00 |
sgclark | shadeslayer: not sure how I uploaded to wily with not working on wily. I also don't know how to fix arm without arm. | 16:03 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: I hear CI helps :P | 16:03 |
shadeslayer | assuming kdenlive is CI'd on armhf | 16:03 |
sgclark | not for KDE | 16:04 |
shadeslayer | I meant the Kubuntu CI :) | 16:04 |
sgclark | ahh | 16:04 |
sgclark | I am still curious how I did a wily upload in my sleep | 16:05 |
shadeslayer | it's not | 16:05 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: lol | 16:05 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: it's probably part of applications | 16:05 |
sgclark | ok | 16:05 |
sgclark | let me look into it | 16:05 |
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shadeslayer | sitter: so, what about that diff now | 16:28 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: fwiw I think you need to make kdenlive build dep on libgles2-mesa-dev on armhf | 16:30 |
sgclark | shadeslayer: oh ty, hope that works, dunno anything bout arm | 16:30 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: and DCI has CI for kdenlive via kubuntu_unstable | 16:31 |
shadeslayer | http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kdenlive_binary_unstable/ | 16:31 |
sgclark | ok thanks | 16:31 |
shadeslayer | cool | 16:31 |
shadeslayer | oh | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | it's working I think | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | upto 93% | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | somehow pulls in libgles2-mesa-de | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | *libgles2-mesa-dev | 16:33 |
sgclark | wonderful | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | apt should get a award for being magic | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: might be useful to explicitly specify this still though | 16:33 |
sgclark | lol | 16:33 |
sgclark | ok | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | assuming it builds | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | do you know how to do it? | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | god this seat is shite, no shoulder support at all | 16:34 |
sgclark | sort of not really | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: you can say libgl1-mesa-dev [!armhf] , libgles1-mesa-dev [armhf] in Build-Depends | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | or just replace gl1 by gles | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | not sure if that'll work on x86 | 16:35 |
sgclark | ok ty | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | ah no | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | failed | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | perhaps it won't work afterall | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | not sure | 16:35 |
sgclark | I really know nothing about arm, no clue how I can fix this | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | 16:37:51 ../../src/monitor/videoglwidget.cpp:74:18: error: ‘GL_FLAT’ was not declared in this scope | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | that's the error | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | GL_FLAT comes from opengl, I do wonder if it's defined in GLES | 16:37 |
shadeslayer | sitter: is bluedevil athing? | 16:47 |
shadeslayer | cuz my jobs be failing, and I don't see nothing in KCI | 16:48 |
sgclark | shadeslayer: looking through the git history there once was a patch to make opengl optional on arm because cmake never finds it, but it vanished . Is this something of interest? Otherwise I really have no idea how to fix this. | 16:56 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: possibly it vanished because it was made a hard dep? | 16:58 |
sgclark | git history does not show the actual vanishing act that I can find, it patched the cmake file required to optional. | 16:59 |
sgclark | though your error would show that cmake did find it? | 17:00 |
sgclark | show again I am clueless | 17:00 |
sgclark | er so | 17:01 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: it does find it | 17:10 |
shadeslayer | however, the fact that it finds it and the fact it works are mutually exclusive ;) | 17:10 |
sgclark | lol | 17:10 |
shadeslayer | anyway, don't worry about kdenlive :P | 17:11 |
sgclark | whew ok | 17:11 |
shadeslayer | opengl + arm isn't something easy to figure out | 17:11 |
shadeslayer | mmm | 17:13 |
shadeslayer | someone broke ECM | 17:13 |
shadeslayer | wat | 17:15 |
ovidiu-florin | if I install a package from CLI, how do I suppress it from asking for input? so I can script the install? | 17:29 |
sgclark | -y | 17:30 |
yofel | you can pre-answer debconf questions, give me a sec | 17:31 |
ovidiu-florin | -y only accepts | 17:33 |
ovidiu-florin | for example: mysql-server asks for a root password. How do I skip it? or provide one to it? | 17:33 |
yofel | ovidiu-florin: e.g. you can do something like: | 17:33 |
yofel | echo "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password password <db_admin_pwd>" | debconf-set-selections | 17:33 |
yofel | to prevent mysql-server for asking for the admin password | 17:33 |
yofel | heh | 17:34 |
sgclark | lol nice | 17:34 |
yofel | actually, needs another line for the PW confirmation: | 17:34 |
yofel | echo "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password_again password <db_admin_pwd>" | debconf-set-selections | 17:34 |
yofel | debconf-get-selections on an installed system will show you all options that you can set | 17:35 |
ovidiu-florin | yofel: and I suppose I do that before installing mysql-server, right? | 17:36 |
yofel | right | 17:36 |
soee | sgclark: ping me if be able to fix kdenlive, i will test it and install :) | 17:37 |
sgclark | soee: sorry that is beyond my abilities | 17:38 |
soee | oh, who should i talk about it ? :) | 17:38 |
BluesKaj | having more crashes in system settimngs than usual after the latest upgrades on 15.10 alpha1. Usually one crash per session , but now it's eveytime i launch it | 17:39 |
soee | BluesKaj: ow, it works pretty good to me now, i had also a lot of crashes but last days it seems to be much better | 17:40 |
soee | are you on lastest upgrades ? | 17:40 |
ovidiu-florin | soee: what problems are you having with it? | 17:40 |
soee | ovidiu-florin: with ? | 17:40 |
ovidiu-florin | kdenlive | 17:41 |
soee | ovidiu-florin: in Wily there are some conflicts i think and it wants to remove translations files etc. | 17:41 |
soee | shadeslayer: am i right ^ | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | install kdenlive from proposed | 17:41 |
shadeslayer | and then install the locales | 17:42 |
shadeslayer | should work then | 17:42 |
shadeslayer | I'm going to look at kdenlive in a few days | 17:42 |
soee | ok, thank you | 17:42 |
BluesKaj | just crashes when I make changes to themes mostly ...looking for a dewsktop/icon/apllication theme that I can live with, but most the choices aren't to my taste | 17:43 |
BluesKaj | mostly | 17:43 |
soee | :) | 17:47 |
ovidiu-florin | why aren't all the widgets from kde-apps.org shown in the install new widgets dialog? | 17:56 |
soee | someone on Wily ? | 17:57 |
clivejo | soee: Im on wily | 17:59 |
soee | can you confrm that setting "Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows" in Compositor does not saves the set value ? its always false ? | 17:59 |
clivejo | I would confirm if I knew what on earth you just said! | 17:59 |
ovidiu-florin | :))) | 18:02 |
clivejo | where is that setting? | 18:06 |
clivejo | soee: where is that setting? | 18:06 |
soee | System Settings -> Display & Monitor -> Compositor | 18:07 |
clivejo | shoot, I was looking in kwin | 18:07 |
soee | seems like kwin is some kind of broken i think | 18:07 |
clivejo | its unchecked | 18:08 |
soee | try to check it save, exit system settings or Display & Monior sectin | 18:09 |
clivejo | oh dear | 18:09 |
clivejo | crashed | 18:09 |
soee | and go back here to see it if is checked | 18:09 |
clivejo | its still checked, but crashed | 18:10 |
clivejo | Ill try a reboot | 18:11 |
clivejo | and konsole is crashing again on exit :( | 18:11 |
soee | hmm | 18:11 |
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clivejo | soee: still checked after reboot | 18:14 |
soee | oO | 18:15 |
soee | clivejo: do you have latest updates in Wily ? | 18:15 |
clivejo | as of about 6 hours ago | 18:15 |
clivejo | yippeee kmix is using the right settings! | 18:16 |
clivejo | soee: also using staging-plasma ppa | 18:17 |
clivejo | and panfaust/kubuntu-kf5-experiments/ubuntu | 18:17 |
clivejo | for that ark and systemd fixes | 18:17 |
soee | i do not have any extra ppas | 18:18 |
clivejo | is OpenGL 3 not stable? | 18:19 |
soee | not sure, im using it | 18:22 |
soee | clivejo: if you have that optin we were talking about set | 18:22 |
clivejo | oh, that seems to have fixed my fuzzy fonts issue | 18:22 |
soee | can you paste .config/kwinrc [Compositing] section ? | 18:22 |
clivejo | I changed scale method to crisp and using opengl3.1 | 18:23 |
clivejo | gimme a sec | 18:23 |
clivejo | soee: https://paste.kde.org/pxrmraap0 | 18:24 |
soee | erkhm, System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display. | 18:25 |
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soee | after i manually chcnged that setting in kwinrc it seems it sees it as it shoudl | 18:29 |
clivejo | Im using plasma 5.3.2 from the staging ppa | 18:30 |
clivejo | maybe its fixed there? | 18:31 |
clivejo | powerdevil seems to be fixed too | 18:31 |
soee | clivejo: staging-pp has teh same Plasma as in archive | 18:34 |
soee | so no difference | 18:34 |
soee | oh lord seems liek chromium-browser witg gpu acceleration enabled is so buggy :/ | 18:35 |
clivejo | soee: are we using wayland yet? | 18:35 |
soee | nope | 18:36 |
clivejo | are you involved in it at all? | 18:37 |
soee | clivejo: hehe no :) | 18:38 |
clivejo | Id like to learn and maybe do some testing | 18:38 |
soee | clivejo: the only person i know more or less you should ask about weyland etc. is Martin | 18:39 |
soee | clivejo: worth following https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts | 18:40 |
clivejo | thanks :) | 18:40 |
clivejo | oh hes blue systems? | 18:43 |
ahoneybun | sitter was posting on G+ about Wayland this morning clivejo and soee | 18:47 |
soee | yup iv seen it | 18:47 |
clivejo | ahoneybun: are widgets individually packaged? | 18:50 |
ahoneybun | clivejo: plasma widgets? | 18:50 |
clivejo | yeah | 18:51 |
ahoneybun | I belive so | 18:51 |
clivejo | I see them on kde apps | 18:51 |
clivejo | was wondering about getting them packaged | 18:51 |
ahoneybun | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=vivid§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=plasma-widget&searchon=names | 18:51 |
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* ahoneybun needs plasma-scriptengine-python built | 18:53 | |
clivejo | is it binary? | 18:55 |
ahoneybun | no clue | 18:55 |
ahoneybun | the project might be dead anyway | 18:56 |
ahoneybun | last upload was in lucid | 18:56 |
ahoneybun | 10.04 | 18:56 |
clivejo | http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/plasma-scriptengine-python | 18:57 |
clivejo | in utopic | 18:57 |
ahoneybun | yea that | 18:57 |
ahoneybun | but the python end is needed for http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/plasma-widget-googlecalendar | 18:57 |
ahoneybun | and the widget is from lucid | 18:57 |
ahoneybun | good old Plasma 4 | 18:57 |
ahoneybun | so confusing | 18:58 |
clivejo | yeah | 18:58 |
clivejo | I thought plasma was only 5 | 18:58 |
ahoneybun | well I mean KDE 4 | 18:58 |
clivejo | I know, but the package name is plasma | 18:59 |
ahoneybun | yea | 18:59 |
clivejo | kinda assumed it means 5 | 18:59 |
yofel | right, it is confusing. Back in kde4 we had plasma 2, it was just called kde workspace 4 back then | 18:59 |
ahoneybun | the widget is not in debian | 19:00 |
ahoneybun | so might be from kde-apps.org | 19:00 |
clivejo | https://packages.debian.org/unstable/plasma-scriptengine-python | 19:00 |
clivejo | thats the package in deb | 19:00 |
ahoneybun | 4.11 | 19:00 |
ahoneybun | I think that is old | 19:00 |
yofel | the scriptengine was part of kde-workspace back then | 19:00 |
yofel | no idea where it lives these days.. | 19:01 |
yofel | shadeslayer: ^ ? | 19:01 |
clivejo | it seems to be a collection of py scripts | 19:01 |
yofel | right, it was the plasma scripting interface for python | 19:02 |
ahoneybun | seems like it would be a mess at best to get it bac | 19:03 |
ahoneybun | *back | 19:03 |
clivejo | came across this "Python scripting is not supported in Plasma 5, so the package is useless in Plasma 5 world." | 19:04 |
ahoneybun | I see | 19:04 |
yofel | well, there you go, bummer | 19:04 |
ahoneybun | yea and there plasma goes crashing | 19:05 |
yofel | you're not used to that yet? -.- | 19:05 |
yofel | </sarcasm> | 19:05 |
ahoneybun | I am but it is getting less and less | 19:05 |
ahoneybun | Seems if the widget is not included with Plasma 5 by default are broken (what I think) | 19:07 |
clivejo | ahoneybun: which widget you looking for? | 19:07 |
ahoneybun | I was just going though the list | 19:08 |
ahoneybun | having google calendar on the desktop would be nice though | 19:08 |
yofel | well, anything that's not explicitely written for plasma 5 won't work | 19:08 |
clivejo | might be update for plasma5 | 19:08 |
ahoneybun | yofel: that reinforces my point | 19:08 |
clivejo | just needs packaged | 19:08 |
yofel | right | 19:08 |
clivejo | ahoneybun: I guess this isnt what you want - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Google+Task+-+web+?content=169824 | 19:14 |
ahoneybun | not Task | 19:15 |
shadeslayer | yofel: I don't think we have scriptengines anymore | 19:21 |
shadeslayer | just js AFAIK | 19:21 |
yofel | ack | 19:21 |
shadeslayer | omg omg my CI is back into shape I think | 19:22 |
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yofel | E: 10mount: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on wily-armhf, | 20:15 |
yofel | sbuild, are you kidding me?!? | 20:15 |
clivejo | oh that sounds painful | 20:17 |
valorie | clivejo: I'm sure I've seen some spam with that same title | 20:23 |
yofel | oh, right, overlayfs changed semantics in kernel 3.18 -.- | 20:24 |
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