=== drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [08:15] hi ho === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [08:28] Good morning. === tazz_ is now known as tazz === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [09:56] i see kernel 4 landed in Wily :) [09:57] one error with latest updates while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-x11_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.de [09:58] Nice, 4.1? [09:59] nope [09:59] brb reboot [09:59] 4.0? [10:01] soee: Is it 4.0? [10:01] lordievader: yes [10:01] ... 4.1.1 is already marked stable. [10:01] lordievader: isint it RC ? [10:01] No, that is 4.2. [10:01] abyway, one more interesting thing: [10:02] before i had some messages when booting like FIFO something etc. etc. [10:02] not system boots without aby message :) [10:02] just plymouth -> sddm [10:02] *now [10:03] lordievader: but i asked about this (waht version will be shipped with Wily) yesterday on #ubuntu-devel [10:03] [wtorek, 7 lipca 2015] [00:39:26 CEST] soee: I think 4.2 was the plan, actually. [10:04] so maybe step by step they will release 4.2 [10:04] Ah, will that be LTS? Or will Ubuntu again ship an EOL kernel? [10:04] no idea :) [10:05] Both Trusty and Vivid have EOL kernels... [10:06] what we have now in Wily: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/07/snapshot8.png [10:16] oh another good news https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/9hmSJPsNWiP :) [10:16] Faster startup is allways good :D [12:20] someone with intel + nvidia machine ? [12:21] Howdy all [12:33] Riddell: what QT version will Wilu use - 5.5 maybe ? [12:33] *Wily [12:36] soee: Riddell is on vacation ;) [12:36] aaaaahh :D [12:36] he needs one [12:36] I bet. [12:38] sitter: there is one trick for fans but im not sure what it does exactly: [12:38] run: sudo powertop and in Tunables try setting various items from Bad to Good [12:39] soee: it would reduce power consumption thus reduce heat thus reduce fan activity xD [12:40] :) [12:48] sgclark: sitter someone needs to fix kdenlive [12:48] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/4:15.04.2-0ubuntu1 [12:57] +1 [13:00] * clivejo giggles at the page title of http://kci.pangea.pub/ [13:22] clivejo: fix your wily! [13:23] I didnt know it was broken! [13:24] maybe its just an Irish thing, but a willy is a totally different thing! [13:32] how do I save the default Master Channel in wily? [13:33] it keeps defaulting to the capture volume, so my hardware voloume keys dont work [13:48] clivejo: kmix -> set master channel [14:24] shadeslayer: yes, but it wont remember that selection, next time I reboot it goes back to capture device [14:25] dunno, works for me here [14:26] shadeslayer: maybe delete things in ~/.kde ? [14:30] *shrug* [14:30] do you know where it saves its settings? [14:31] ~/.kde/config/kmixrc ? [14:31] or just search for kmixrc [14:35] weird DefaultCardOnStart=PulseAudio.Capture_Devices.1.default [14:38] hopefully it will not change on next reboot [14:50] anyone know of a dummy package in ubuntu [14:50] that's harmless [14:51] I reckon hello would work [15:01] kwin takes way too long to build [15:01] srsly [15:01] * mgraesslin agrees [15:02] I'm trying to compile on the old exopc currently [15:02] and it's annoyingly slow [15:02] ^^ [15:02] http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kwin_binary_unstable/arch=armhf/86/console [15:02] waiterooing [15:02] I now aborted and started again with icecc [15:02] :D [15:03] atleast you have icecc [15:03] yeah [15:04] all of this shit needs to be faster [15:04] all of it I say [15:05] at least we no longer compile KWin twice ;-) [15:05] this is true :P [15:06] Jenkins's scheduling algorithm also does not take into account that you'll have 2 jobs with large CPU usage [15:06] so I have khtml and kwin on the same slave [15:06] which is fun [15:06] eheh [15:06] oh which one is larger? [15:06] larger? [15:06] in sloc [15:06] ah, no clue [15:06] kwin is 113597 [15:07] surely you have the khtml source checked out :P [15:07] khtml is 232047 [15:08] now I am disappointed [15:08] kwin is still not larger than an outdated web rendering engine [15:09] shadeslayer: there's a scheduler plugin that changes the behavior to use the node with least load [15:09] which generally should be more suitable [15:10] default scheduler attempts to use same node as last time which is nice when you recycle from a build cache but pretty shitty when you want load spread [15:11] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Least+Load+Plugin ? [15:11] yep [15:11] no wait [15:11] yes [15:11] that one ^^ [15:11] but kwin now is on an all-time high with sloc [15:11] xD [15:12] although we dropped oxygen [15:12] and kwayland [15:12] and this year (since Jan) we increased by ~10 ksloc according to openhub [15:12] sitter: I have to enable it on every job? [15:12] shadeslayer: I think so [15:12] good god @_@ [15:12] just change your template? [15:12] yeah [15:12] I guess [15:13] oh [15:13] oh oh [15:13] The plugin requires no global configuration it will just replace the default load balancer at startup. Jobs can be configured to utilize the default Jenkins load balancer if required. [15:13] so nothing required [15:13] there you go then [15:13] reading saved the day :P [15:13] :D === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [15:57] sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11836427/ [15:57] sitter: thoughts? [15:58] different symbosl [15:58] huh? [15:58] would result in different symbols? [15:58] I don't track symbols on DCI [16:00] bug 1472320 is wat [16:00] bug 1472320 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "package kpackagekit 0.5.4-0ubuntu4.3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/kde4/kcm_kpk_addrm.so'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472320 [16:00] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 [16:03] shadeslayer: not sure how I uploaded to wily with not working on wily. I also don't know how to fix arm without arm. [16:03] sgclark: I hear CI helps :P [16:03] assuming kdenlive is CI'd on armhf [16:04] not for KDE [16:04] I meant the Kubuntu CI :) [16:04] ahh [16:05] I am still curious how I did a wily upload in my sleep [16:05] it's not [16:05] sgclark: lol [16:05] sgclark: it's probably part of applications [16:05] ok [16:05] let me look into it === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [16:28] sitter: so, what about that diff now [16:30] sgclark: fwiw I think you need to make kdenlive build dep on libgles2-mesa-dev on armhf [16:30] shadeslayer: oh ty, hope that works, dunno anything bout arm [16:31] sgclark: and DCI has CI for kdenlive via kubuntu_unstable [16:31] http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kdenlive_binary_unstable/ [16:31] ok thanks [16:31] cool [16:32] oh [16:32] it's working I think [16:32] upto 93% [16:33] somehow pulls in libgles2-mesa-de [16:33] *libgles2-mesa-dev [16:33] wonderful [16:33] apt should get a award for being magic [16:33] sgclark: might be useful to explicitly specify this still though [16:33] lol [16:33] ok [16:34] assuming it builds [16:34] do you know how to do it? [16:34] god this seat is shite, no shoulder support at all [16:34] sort of not really [16:34] sgclark: you can say libgl1-mesa-dev [!armhf] , libgles1-mesa-dev [armhf] in Build-Depends [16:35] or just replace gl1 by gles [16:35] not sure if that'll work on x86 [16:35] ok ty [16:35] ah no [16:35] failed [16:35] perhaps it won't work afterall [16:35] not sure [16:36] I really know nothing about arm, no clue how I can fix this [16:36] 16:37:51 ../../src/monitor/videoglwidget.cpp:74:18: error: ‘GL_FLAT’ was not declared in this scope [16:36] that's the error [16:37] GL_FLAT comes from opengl, I do wonder if it's defined in GLES [16:47] sitter: is bluedevil athing? [16:48] cuz my jobs be failing, and I don't see nothing in KCI [16:56] shadeslayer: looking through the git history there once was a patch to make opengl optional on arm because cmake never finds it, but it vanished . Is this something of interest? Otherwise I really have no idea how to fix this. [16:58] sgclark: possibly it vanished because it was made a hard dep? [16:59] git history does not show the actual vanishing act that I can find, it patched the cmake file required to optional. [17:00] though your error would show that cmake did find it? [17:00] show again I am clueless [17:01] er so [17:10] sgclark: it does find it [17:10] however, the fact that it finds it and the fact it works are mutually exclusive ;) [17:10] lol [17:11] anyway, don't worry about kdenlive :P [17:11] whew ok [17:11] opengl + arm isn't something easy to figure out [17:13] mmm [17:13] someone broke ECM [17:15] wat [17:29] if I install a package from CLI, how do I suppress it from asking for input? so I can script the install? [17:30] -y [17:31] you can pre-answer debconf questions, give me a sec [17:33] -y only accepts [17:33] for example: mysql-server asks for a root password. How do I skip it? or provide one to it? [17:33] ovidiu-florin: e.g. you can do something like: [17:33] echo "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password password " | debconf-set-selections [17:33] to prevent mysql-server for asking for the admin password [17:34] heh [17:34] lol nice [17:34] actually, needs another line for the PW confirmation: [17:34] echo "mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server/root_password_again password " | debconf-set-selections [17:35] debconf-get-selections on an installed system will show you all options that you can set [17:36] yofel: and I suppose I do that before installing mysql-server, right? [17:36] right [17:37] sgclark: ping me if be able to fix kdenlive, i will test it and install :) [17:38] soee: sorry that is beyond my abilities [17:38] oh, who should i talk about it ? :) [17:39] having more crashes in system settimngs than usual after the latest upgrades on 15.10 alpha1. Usually one crash per session , but now it's eveytime i launch it [17:40] BluesKaj: ow, it works pretty good to me now, i had also a lot of crashes but last days it seems to be much better [17:40] are you on lastest upgrades ? [17:40] soee: what problems are you having with it? [17:40] ovidiu-florin: with ? [17:41] kdenlive [17:41] ovidiu-florin: in Wily there are some conflicts i think and it wants to remove translations files etc. [17:41] shadeslayer: am i right ^ [17:41] install kdenlive from proposed [17:42] and then install the locales [17:42] should work then [17:42] I'm going to look at kdenlive in a few days [17:42] ok, thank you [17:43] just crashes when I make changes to themes mostly ...looking for a dewsktop/icon/apllication theme that I can live with, but most the choices aren't to my taste [17:43] mostly [17:47] :) [17:56] why aren't all the widgets from kde-apps.org shown in the install new widgets dialog? [17:57] someone on Wily ? [17:59] soee: Im on wily [17:59] can you confrm that setting "Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows" in Compositor does not saves the set value ? its always false ? [17:59] I would confirm if I knew what on earth you just said! [18:02] :))) [18:06] where is that setting? [18:06] soee: where is that setting? [18:07] System Settings -> Display & Monitor -> Compositor [18:07] shoot, I was looking in kwin [18:07] seems like kwin is some kind of broken i think [18:08] its unchecked [18:09] try to check it save, exit system settings or Display & Monior sectin [18:09] oh dear [18:09] crashed [18:09] and go back here to see it if is checked [18:10] its still checked, but crashed [18:11] Ill try a reboot [18:11] and konsole is crashing again on exit :( [18:11] hmm === santa is now known as Guest45092 [18:14] soee: still checked after reboot [18:15] oO [18:15] clivejo: do you have latest updates in Wily ? [18:15] as of about 6 hours ago [18:16] yippeee kmix is using the right settings! [18:17] soee: also using staging-plasma ppa [18:17] and panfaust/kubuntu-kf5-experiments/ubuntu [18:17] for that ark and systemd fixes [18:18] i do not have any extra ppas [18:19] is OpenGL 3 not stable? [18:22] not sure, im using it [18:22] clivejo: if you have that optin we were talking about set [18:22] oh, that seems to have fixed my fuzzy fonts issue [18:22] can you paste .config/kwinrc [Compositing] section ? [18:23] I changed scale method to crisp and using opengl3.1 [18:23] gimme a sec [18:24] soee: https://paste.kde.org/pxrmraap0 [18:25] erkhm, System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display. === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [18:29] after i manually chcnged that setting in kwinrc it seems it sees it as it shoudl [18:30] Im using plasma 5.3.2 from the staging ppa [18:31] maybe its fixed there? [18:31] powerdevil seems to be fixed too [18:34] clivejo: staging-pp has teh same Plasma as in archive [18:34] so no difference [18:35] oh lord seems liek chromium-browser witg gpu acceleration enabled is so buggy :/ [18:35] soee: are we using wayland yet? [18:36] nope [18:37] are you involved in it at all? [18:38] clivejo: hehe no :) [18:38] Id like to learn and maybe do some testing [18:39] clivejo: the only person i know more or less you should ask about weyland etc. is Martin [18:40] clivejo: worth following https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts [18:40] thanks :) [18:43] oh hes blue systems? [18:47] sitter was posting on G+ about Wayland this morning clivejo and soee [18:47] yup iv seen it [18:50] ahoneybun: are widgets individually packaged? [18:50] clivejo: plasma widgets? [18:51] yeah [18:51] I belive so [18:51] I see them on kde apps [18:51] was wondering about getting them packaged [18:51] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=vivid§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=plasma-widget&searchon=names === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [18:53] * ahoneybun needs plasma-scriptengine-python built [18:55] is it binary? [18:55] no clue [18:56] the project might be dead anyway [18:56] last upload was in lucid [18:56] 10.04 [18:57] http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/plasma-scriptengine-python [18:57] in utopic [18:57] yea that [18:57] but the python end is needed for http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/plasma-widget-googlecalendar [18:57] and the widget is from lucid [18:57] good old Plasma 4 [18:58] so confusing [18:58] yeah [18:58] I thought plasma was only 5 [18:58] well I mean KDE 4 [18:59] I know, but the package name is plasma [18:59] yea [18:59] kinda assumed it means 5 [18:59] right, it is confusing. Back in kde4 we had plasma 2, it was just called kde workspace 4 back then [19:00] the widget is not in debian [19:00] so might be from kde-apps.org [19:00] https://packages.debian.org/unstable/plasma-scriptengine-python [19:00] thats the package in deb [19:00] 4.11 [19:00] I think that is old [19:00] the scriptengine was part of kde-workspace back then [19:01] no idea where it lives these days.. [19:01] shadeslayer: ^ ? [19:01] it seems to be a collection of py scripts [19:02] right, it was the plasma scripting interface for python [19:03] seems like it would be a mess at best to get it bac [19:03] *back [19:04] came across this "Python scripting is not supported in Plasma 5, so the package is useless in Plasma 5 world." [19:04] I see [19:04] well, there you go, bummer [19:05] yea and there plasma goes crashing [19:05] you're not used to that yet? -.- [19:05] [19:05] I am but it is getting less and less [19:07] Seems if the widget is not included with Plasma 5 by default are broken (what I think) [19:07] ahoneybun: which widget you looking for? [19:08] I was just going though the list [19:08] having google calendar on the desktop would be nice though [19:08] well, anything that's not explicitely written for plasma 5 won't work [19:08] might be update for plasma5 [19:08] yofel: that reinforces my point [19:08] just needs packaged [19:08] right [19:14] ahoneybun: I guess this isnt what you want - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Google+Task+-+web+?content=169824 [19:15] not Task [19:21] yofel: I don't think we have scriptengines anymore [19:21] just js AFAIK [19:21] ack [19:22] omg omg my CI is back into shape I think === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [20:15] E: 10mount: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on wily-armhf, [20:15] sbuild, are you kidding me?!? [20:17] oh that sounds painful [20:23] clivejo: I'm sure I've seen some spam with that same title [20:24] oh, right, overlayfs changed semantics in kernel 3.18 -.-