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pittiGood morning04:23
seb128good morning desktopers07:12
pittibonjour seb128 !07:18
seb128hey pitti, how are you?07:18
pittiseb128: quite fine, thanks! and yourself?07:18
seb128I'm good, thanks07:18
pittiarguing with britney again07:18
seb128what is she complaining about today?07:19
pittiseb128: I mean my rewrite to clean up/simplify/cloud-ize autopkgtests07:19
seb128ah, right07:20
seb128are you getting there?07:20
pittiyesterday I started a first run, which triggered ~ 430 tests07:20
pittithey are mostly done now (we don't yet have a lot of scalingstack capacity)07:20
pittithis uncovered a few missing bits in my new britney logic07:21
pitticurrently analyzing, writing test cases, and fixing07:21
pittibut yeah, should have it done this week07:21
pittithe current britney/lp:auto-package-testing code is rather horrible07:21
pittiquite fragmented and hard to understand, nobody wants to touch it07:22
pittinow I know why :)07:22
seb128hehe07:22
seb128nice that you are cleaning up things then ;-)07:22
willcookemorning all07:59
seb128hey willcooke08:00
willcookeI'll be afk most of the morning, combination of school sports day and registering births08:00
seb128how are you?08:00
seb128have fun!08:00
willcookeI slept in my 7 year old's room last night, so I got some sleep \o/08:01
tjaaltonis ancell off today?08:01
seb128nice08:01
seb128tjaalton, is->was?08:01
seb128tjaalton, he's in .nz so it's already after work hours for him for a few hours08:01
tjaaltonwell I tried to find him >2h ago :)08:01
seb128he did sponsor uploads during his day so I think he was there08:01
tjaaltonbut ok08:01
tjaaltonI'll use email08:01
willcookeI spoke to him last night08:02
tjaaltonright, I was just too late then08:03
willcookewe had a meeting at the equivilent of his 8am, so he probably finished "early"08:03
seb128tjaalton, 2 hours ago was 6pm and he's good at closing IRC after office hours08:03
seb128you can often email him and get a reply later on though08:03
tjaaltongood for him :)08:03
tjaaltonyep, sent08:03
seb128like around now he would still reply08:03
seb128what do you need?08:03
tjaaltonplans about upstreaming the xmir patch, xserver 1.18 is about to freeze08:03
seb128ah ok08:04
seb128I can't help you with that08:04
tjaaltonnp, I'll just wait for the reply08:04
tjaaltonit's not urgent08:04
Laneyyo08:04
seb128hey Laney08:05
willcookemorning Laney08:05
larsuLaney: icon sizes in nautilus are all messed up at 2× as well. Reverting that one commit fixes it. mclasen wasn't there last night to talk - I'll try to reach him today08:06
larsuLaney: also, morning :)08:06
larsumorning willcooke!08:06
willcookehey larsu08:06
Laneyhaha hi larsu08:07
Laney& willcooke & seb12808:07
larsuweirdly enough, icons in list mode get *smaller*08:08
Laneyoh yeah, I didn't notice that08:10
Laneyiz gtk boog08:11
larsuya, it's that one commit (without an attached bug, of course)08:11
Laneyprobably worth filing one about the problem08:12
larsuindeed08:13
seb128Laney, I don't remember, but did you say you would work on pushing to get https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783172 included in debian?08:31
ubot5Debian bug 783172 in evolution-data-server "evolution-data-server: Split out the GTK depends in their own binary" [Wishlist,Open]08:31
Laneyseb128: dunno, but can look at that08:34
seb128Laney, that would be nice, thanks08:34
Laneywill need to check the transition again once it is unblocked on our side08:34
Laneycan re merge at that point08:34
* Laney screams08:45
* ogra_ shades his ears08:59
willcookeseb128, can you remember off the top of your head if bluez 5 was likely to get in to W?10:35
desrtgood morning, karaj10:50
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seb128desrt, hey11:23
seb128willcooke, unsure, the touch team is supposed to work on it but I didn't see much status update or focus around that recently11:24
ogra_willcooke, i bet morphis will eventually work on it since he is a BT specialist11:25
willcookethx seb128 ogra_12:30
seb128willcooke, is anyone asking us about the update?12:31
willcookeseb128,  a16g was interested12:33
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desrtLaney: sorry about that bug :(13:26
desrti thought i had saw that patch fly by when i was on vacation but i couldn't find it again :(13:27
Laneydesrt: hi!14:19
Laneyno worries14:19
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seb128Laney, can you do a desktop-next amd64 iso build for me?14:40
Laneyok14:51
seb128thanks14:52
Laneycyphermox: did I see that you looked into the iso smoke testing failures?15:13
Laneysomeone just mailed the list about that, just replying to him15:14
cyphermoxyeah :/15:17
Laneyany clue?15:17
Laneyit's pretty cryptic to me atm15:18
Laneydid that wait_for_net thing fail?15:21
desrtsome people say that, in the days of the week, M stands for Monday15:29
desrtbut everyone here knows that M actually stands for something else15:29
willcookedunnnn dunnnn dunnnnnnnnn it's meeting time15:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting - 2015-07-3015:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jul  7 15:30:37 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:30
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:30
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willcookeRoll call:  attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks (out), fjkong (out), happyaron (probably out), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, tkamppeter, themuso (out), robert_ancell (out)15:31
desrtpresent and accounted for.15:31
dgadomskihey15:31
* Sweet5hark reporting in.15:31
* happyaron waves15:31
seb128hey15:31
larsuhi15:32
desrttoo nice of a day -- everyone else outside for a walk =)15:32
larsuindeed15:32
tkamppeterhi15:32
attentehi15:33
willcookelet's do this...15:33
willcooke#topic attente15:33
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attentegtk-mir: fixed mouse clicking bug, fixed a crash happening with xchat-gnome under mir, backported both and proposed: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-2/+merge/26382215:33
attentestarted looking into copy/paste15:33
attente(eof)15:33
willcookethanks attente15:33
willcookere: copy & paste - it's worth hooking up with robert_ancell since he is looking at the same for xmir15:34
willcookeshare some findings15:34
willcooke#topic desrt15:34
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desrt + moved15:34
desrt + back on the job, tending bug backlog15:34
desrt + wrote pam_dconf demo module which sets up dconf profile at login time according to complex rules15:34
desrt + fixed focus stealing problems, gtk menumodel problem, file monitor issue (sorry laney!), a few other small issues15:34
desrt + work continues on dconf service15:34
desrtfin'15:34
willcookethanks desrt, hope you're settling in ok15:35
desrtaside: if anyone needed anything looked at while i was MIA, now would be a good time to mention it15:35
desrtwillcooke: ya... place already feels like home; thanks :)15:35
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:36
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dgadomskihey15:36
dgadomskiNo new problems reported in the desktop area this week, so nothing really to share this time.15:36
dgadomskithanks15:36
willcookethanks dgadomski15:37
willcooke#topic FJKong15:38
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willcooke1 finiish feature request: Hide status bar when there is no background15:38
willcookeimage in skin file.15:38
willcooke2 fix changeing font size of default skin to 1615:38
willcooke3 sogou shuangpin: add tips string to input window15:38
willcooke#topic happyaron15:38
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happyaron1. Internal evaluation RPM package of sogoupinyin desktop version sent to SUSE Desktop QA (as per Sogou's request and after their initial contacts), but no follow up so far, not expecting anything atm.15:39
happyaron2. Follow ups on sogoupinyin on Ubuntu Phone's development15:39
happyaron3. China Mobile's Ubuntu Phone hackathon at MSRA Beijing15:39
happyaron4. Prepare the presentation of Ubuntu Kylin for this weekend at Xi'an15:39
happyaron5. Work towards mozc as default engine for Japanese input method15:39
happyaron6. Started today for using Noto CJK for default CJK fonts (or partially)15:39
happyaronEOF15:39
willcookethanks happyaron15:39
willcooke#topic Laney15:39
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Laney• Tried to work with some CI and other people to unblock / investigate boottest failures which are bl0x0ring things in wily-proposed15:39
Laney• Related, help nudge along the platform-api transition15:39
Laney• webkit2: work on software-center, seems kind of working now, not finished15:39
Laney• Check out gnome-keyring with the new gnome3 pinentry instead of its internal agent, mail to -desktop, required some fixes in gpg15:39
Laney• Fix a broken glib test upstream (thanks larsu), cherry-pick it, upload to exp, sync to wily15:40
Laney• File libgom MIR; update grilo-plugins to use this; fix a bug upstream; make totem use this now.15:40
Laney15:40
larsuLaney: thanks for mentioning that. I tend to forget those small things in my weeklies :)15:40
willcookethx Laney15:40
willcooke#topic larsu15:41
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larsu- updated overlay scrollbar branch (testing and further design appreciated)15:41
larsu- tracked down our hidpi icon sizing issues to a single gtk commit. unclear how to fix yet15:41
larsu- theming! (file-roller, nautilus)15:41
larsu- what Laney said15:41
larsu- some misc gnome bugs15:41
larsu</larsu>15:41
seb128what's the branch to test?15:41
larsuseb128:  lp:~larsu/ubuntu-themes/overlay-scrollbars15:42
seb128danke15:42
* willcooke will try that in a vm too15:42
larsuthat message dialog linked button problem is probably a gtk bug as wlel15:42
larsuhappens in all themes15:42
seb128oh, right15:42
seb128:-/15:42
larsuI also looked into not expanding those for us15:42
larsubut might be tricky, as apps do that15:42
larsuso either we never expand button boxes or we patch apps15:42
seb128would we have many apps to patch?15:43
larsudon't know15:43
larsumy first not-very-thorough search didn't find more issues like this15:43
seb128I guess let's start by not doing anything and see if that's an issue15:44
larsubut who know, you know15:44
larsu*who knows15:44
seb128right15:44
larsuso keep the expanded ones?15:44
seb128I guess so15:44
larsuexpanded/linked15:44
larsuok15:44
willcookefin?15:44
larsuya, sorryt15:44
willcooke:) nw15:44
willcooke#topic qengho15:44
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qenghoHey!15:45
qengho* Discussions15:45
qengho** Distribute Widevine and get Netflix support? Cr 44 should make it possible to use!15:45
qengho** Some Firefox support chatter.15:45
qengho* I gave chromium-browser T+ to Chris for upload.15:45
qengho* Looked into glibc compatible shim for Precise release. Will work on P more soon.15:45
qengho* chromium/ozone/mir again. Starting to loathe C++.15:45
qenghoEOF15:45
seb128qengho, do you need a wily sponsor?15:45
qenghoseb128: Chris can handle it.15:46
seb128or is chris handling that was well?15:46
seb128good15:46
willcookeqengho, what news of Mir?15:46
willcookeok15:46
willcookeignore15:46
willcookeI see15:46
willcookethanks qengho15:46
willcooke#topic seb12815:47
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seb128• landed unity-settings-daemon bugfixes (gsettings registration order, automounted watch for lockscreen as well as screensaver, those are different under unity)15:47
seb128• tested unity8 lock screen/desktop bugfix15:47
seb128• reviewed/sponsored an humanity-icon-theme bugfix for larsu15:47
seb128• spent some trying to register for debconf, grrr debian infrastructure15:47
seb128• chased people to get ubuntu touch bugfixes to land for the coming ota update15:47
seb128• snappy personal fun continued15:47
seb128∘ switched from cloud-init to livecd-rootfs user creation (like in touch)15:47
seb128∘ brought some extra tweaks from touch to desktop-next (extra writable paths, adding the user to more groups)15:47
seb128∘ debugged grub config issues15:47
seb128∘ reported some bugs about failing systemd jobs15:47
seb128∘ current image is booting and login into a working unity8 session \o/15:47
seb128</week>15:47
willcookethx seb12815:47
seb128yw!15:47
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark15:48
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Sweet5hark- fixed regression from a patch I reviewed upstream15:48
Sweet5hark- now at regressioncountzero from my own commits, or those I bear a resposibility for by affiliation or as a reviewer as far as I know (ignorance is a bliss!)15:48
Sweet5hark- tested/ported LibreOffice 4.4.4~rc3 forward to wily: seemed trivial, though not smoketested yet15:48
Sweet5hark- patch backporting to precise15:48
Sweet5hark- bug report grinding and overlooking at launchpad and bugs.documentfoundation.org15:48
Sweet5harkEOF15:48
willcookethx Sweet5hark15:48
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:49
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* desrt eyes his internet connection with suspicion15:49
tkamppeter- Ghostscript: Looked into syncing it with Debian again, packaged 9.16 based on Debian, which works technically but requires several MIRs15:49
tkamppeter- MIRs for Ghostscript: openjpeg, libtrio, libregexp-assemble-perl, libimage-exiftool-perl15:49
tkamppeter- Thoughts about upstream future of ippusbxd15:49
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:49
willcookethanks tkamppeter15:49
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:49
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willcooke* Continued working on refactoring a11y profile code in casper, about to start working on how things will be broken out per flavour, such that the settings package for each flavour will carry accessibility profile settings specific to that flavour.15:50
willcooke* Ran into a bug with regards to the use of GNOME screensaver and unity. GNOME screensaver is still used when Orca is being used, due to the Unity lock screen not being properly accessible yet. After a recent upgrade, found I could not unlock my desktop via gnome screensaver after entering my password, and could also bypass this by switching to a VT and back again. Investigation continues, suspect something systemd related as thats the o15:50
willcookenly package I noticed that was upgraded that could have any bearing on lock screen/password authentication behavior for a seat.15:50
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:50
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willcooke- Set up git branch for XMir (https://code.launchpad.net/~xmir-team/xorg-server/+git/xmir)15:50
willcooke- Merged in Andreas Pokorny's changes to make XMir work with upcoming Mir 0.14.0 and added package to landing-004 PPA15:50
willcooke- Package updates15:50
willcooke- Package sponsorship15:50
willcooke#topic Any other business15:50
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desrtnice day to fly a kite, i say15:50
willcookeThanks to Laney for following up on the build issues already15:50
willcookeit *is* a nice day to fly a kite15:51
willcookeany one for any more?15:51
seb128not me15:51
willcooke1m timeout set...15:51
Laneyseb128: could you promote for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgom/+bug/1471292 please?15:52
ubot5Launchpad bug 1471292 in libgom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libgom" [Undecided,Fix committed]15:52
Laney#notaob15:52
seb128Laney, is there anything that is going to keep it in?15:52
seb128we usual promote only when needed15:52
willcookelet's go fly kites then...15:53
seb128otherwise it creates component mismatch noise and other archive admin demote it15:53
willcooke#endmeeting15:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jul  7 15:53:07 2015 UTC.15:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-07-07-15.30.moin.txt15:53
willcookethanks everyone15:53
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/0.2.14-5ubuntu1/+build/762852415:53
* Laney knows the rules15:53
seb128that's a "yes" I guess?15:53
tkamppeterseb128, you can make MIRs getting through more quickly? I have one very important, bug 1455644.15:53
ubot5bug 1455644 in ippusbxd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ippusbxd" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145564415:53
Laneyindeed15:53
seb128tkamppeter, sorry but I can't really...15:53
Laneytkamppeter: I only ask because it is approved15:53
Laneyand he can execute the promotion15:53
Laneyyou need ~ubuntu-mir15:53
desrt /away flying a kite15:54
seb128desrt, enjoy!15:54
seb128what's the hipe about kites today?!15:54
desrt(er, really, just lunch...)15:54
desrtseb128: did you ever see mary poppins?15:55
seb128no...15:55
desrttoo bad15:55
desrthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA-g8YYPKVo15:55
happyaronwell good night guys15:56
Laneyhappyaron: 晚安15:56
happyaronwow15:57
seb128happyaron, night15:57
willcookecya happyaron15:58
desrtseb128: really, just watch the movie.  it's an absolute classic :)15:58
seb128:-)15:59
seb128desrt, k!15:59
seb128desrt, enjoy lunch ;-)15:59
Laneybeep beep beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeep16:00
* Laney hears the 5pm pips16:00
seb128Laney, tea time?16:01
Laneytea and flapjack16:02
seb128Laney, libgom promoted16:03
Laneythanks!16:03
seb128yw!16:03
attenteLaney: can you merge and upload https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-2?16:55
Laneyyeah, probably tomorrow17:01
attentethanks17:03
Laneyyou can just request a review from me on the mp btw17:03
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* willcooke EOD18:26

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