[04:23] <pitti> Good morning
[07:12] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:18] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[07:18] <seb128> hey pitti, how are you?
[07:18] <pitti> seb128: quite fine, thanks! and yourself?
[07:18] <seb128> I'm good, thanks
[07:18] <pitti> arguing with britney again
[07:19] <seb128> what is she complaining about today?
[07:19] <pitti> seb128: I mean my rewrite to clean up/simplify/cloud-ize autopkgtests
[07:20] <seb128> ah, right
[07:20] <seb128> are you getting there?
[07:20] <pitti> yesterday I started a first run, which triggered ~ 430 tests
[07:20] <pitti> they are mostly done now (we don't yet have a lot of scalingstack capacity)
[07:21] <pitti> this uncovered a few missing bits in my new britney logic
[07:21] <pitti> currently analyzing, writing test cases, and fixing
[07:21] <pitti> but yeah, should have it done this week
[07:21] <pitti> the current britney/lp:auto-package-testing code is rather horrible
[07:22] <pitti> quite fragmented and hard to understand, nobody wants to touch it
[07:22] <pitti> now I know why :)
[07:22] <seb128> hehe
[07:22] <seb128> nice that you are cleaning up things then ;-)
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:00] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:00] <willcooke> I'll be afk most of the morning, combination of school sports day and registering births
[08:00] <seb128> how are you?
[08:00] <seb128> have fun!
[08:01] <willcooke> I slept in my 7 year old's room last night, so I got some sleep \o/
[08:01] <tjaalton> is ancell off today?
[08:01] <seb128> nice
[08:01] <seb128> tjaalton, is->was?
[08:01] <seb128> tjaalton, he's in .nz so it's already after work hours for him for a few hours
[08:01] <tjaalton> well I tried to find him >2h ago :)
[08:01] <seb128> he did sponsor uploads during his day so I think he was there
[08:01] <tjaalton> but ok
[08:01] <tjaalton> I'll use email
[08:02] <willcooke> I spoke to him last night
[08:03] <tjaalton> right, I was just too late then
[08:03] <willcooke> we had a meeting at the equivilent of his 8am, so he probably finished "early"
[08:03] <seb128> tjaalton, 2 hours ago was 6pm and he's good at closing IRC after office hours
[08:03] <seb128> you can often email him and get a reply later on though
[08:03] <tjaalton> good for him :)
[08:03] <tjaalton> yep, sent
[08:03] <seb128> like around now he would still reply
[08:03] <seb128> what do you need?
[08:03] <tjaalton> plans about upstreaming the xmir patch, xserver 1.18 is about to freeze
[08:04] <seb128> ah ok
[08:04] <seb128> I can't help you with that
[08:04] <tjaalton> np, I'll just wait for the reply
[08:04] <tjaalton> it's not urgent
[08:04] <Laney> yo
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:05] <willcooke> morning Laney
[08:06] <larsu> Laney: icon sizes in nautilus are all messed up at 2× as well. Reverting that one commit fixes it. mclasen wasn't there last night to talk - I'll try to reach him today
[08:06] <larsu> Laney: also, morning :)
[08:06] <larsu> morning willcooke!
[08:06] <willcooke> hey larsu
[08:07] <Laney> haha hi larsu
[08:07] <Laney> & willcooke & seb128
[08:08] <larsu> weirdly enough, icons in list mode get *smaller*
[08:10] <Laney> oh yeah, I didn't notice that
[08:11] <Laney> iz gtk boog
[08:11] <larsu> ya, it's that one commit (without an attached bug, of course)
[08:12] <Laney> probably worth filing one about the problem
[08:13] <larsu> indeed
[08:31] <seb128> Laney, I don't remember, but did you say you would work on pushing to get https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783172 included in debian?
[08:34] <Laney> seb128: dunno, but can look at that
[08:34] <seb128> Laney, that would be nice, thanks
[08:34] <Laney> will need to check the transition again once it is unblocked on our side
[08:34] <Laney> can re merge at that point
[08:45]  * Laney screams
[08:59]  * ogra_ shades his ears
[10:35] <willcooke> seb128, can you remember off the top of your head if bluez 5 was likely to get in to W?
[10:50] <desrt> good morning, karaj
[11:23] <seb128> desrt, hey
[11:24] <seb128> willcooke, unsure, the touch team is supposed to work on it but I didn't see much status update or focus around that recently
[11:25] <ogra_> willcooke, i bet morphis will eventually work on it since he is a BT specialist
[12:30] <willcooke> thx seb128 ogra_
[12:31] <seb128> willcooke, is anyone asking us about the update?
[12:33] <willcooke> seb128,  a16g was interested
[13:26] <desrt> Laney: sorry about that bug :(
[13:27] <desrt> i thought i had saw that patch fly by when i was on vacation but i couldn't find it again :(
[14:19] <Laney> desrt: hi!
[14:19] <Laney> no worries
[14:40] <seb128> Laney, can you do a desktop-next amd64 iso build for me?
[14:51] <Laney> ok
[14:52] <seb128> thanks
[15:13] <Laney> cyphermox: did I see that you looked into the iso smoke testing failures?
[15:14] <Laney> someone just mailed the list about that, just replying to him
[15:17] <cyphermox> yeah :/
[15:17] <Laney> any clue?
[15:18] <Laney> it's pretty cryptic to me atm
[15:21] <Laney> did that wait_for_net thing fail?
[15:29] <desrt> some people say that, in the days of the week, M stands for Monday
[15:29] <desrt> but everyone here knows that M actually stands for something else
[15:30] <willcooke> dunnnn dunnnn dunnnnnnnnn it's meeting time
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting - 2015-07-30
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul  7 15:30:37 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:31] <willcooke> Roll call:  attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks (out), fjkong (out), happyaron (probably out), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, tkamppeter, themuso (out), robert_ancell (out)
[15:31] <desrt> present and accounted for.
[15:31] <dgadomski> hey
[15:31]  * Sweet5hark reporting in.
[15:31]  * happyaron waves
[15:31] <seb128> hey
[15:32] <larsu> hi
[15:32] <desrt> too nice of a day -- everyone else outside for a walk =)
[15:32] <larsu> indeed
[15:32] <tkamppeter> hi
[15:33] <attente> hi
[15:33] <willcooke> let's do this...
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:33] <attente> gtk-mir: fixed mouse clicking bug, fixed a crash happening with xchat-gnome under mir, backported both and proposed: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-2/+merge/263822
[15:33] <attente> started looking into copy/paste
[15:33] <attente> (eof)
[15:33] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:34] <willcooke> re: copy & paste - it's worth hooking up with robert_ancell since he is looking at the same for xmir
[15:34] <willcooke> share some findings
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:34] <desrt>  + moved
[15:34] <desrt>  + back on the job, tending bug backlog
[15:34] <desrt>  + wrote pam_dconf demo module which sets up dconf profile at login time according to complex rules
[15:34] <desrt>  + fixed focus stealing problems, gtk menumodel problem, file monitor issue (sorry laney!), a few other small issues
[15:34] <desrt>  + work continues on dconf service
[15:34] <desrt> fin'
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks desrt, hope you're settling in ok
[15:35] <desrt> aside: if anyone needed anything looked at while i was MIA, now would be a good time to mention it
[15:35] <desrt> willcooke: ya... place already feels like home; thanks :)
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:36] <dgadomski> hey
[15:36] <dgadomski> No new problems reported in the desktop area this week, so nothing really to share this time.
[15:36] <dgadomski> thanks
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <willcooke> 1 finiish feature request: Hide status bar when there is no background
[15:38] <willcooke> image in skin file.
[15:38] <willcooke> 2 fix changeing font size of default skin to 16
[15:38] <willcooke> 3 sogou shuangpin: add tips string to input window
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:39] <happyaron> 1. Internal evaluation RPM package of sogoupinyin desktop version sent to SUSE Desktop QA (as per Sogou's request and after their initial contacts), but no follow up so far, not expecting anything atm.
[15:39] <happyaron> 2. Follow ups on sogoupinyin on Ubuntu Phone's development
[15:39] <happyaron> 3. China Mobile's Ubuntu Phone hackathon at MSRA Beijing
[15:39] <happyaron> 4. Prepare the presentation of Ubuntu Kylin for this weekend at Xi'an
[15:39] <happyaron> 5. Work towards mozc as default engine for Japanese input method
[15:39] <happyaron> 6. Started today for using Noto CJK for default CJK fonts (or partially)
[15:39] <happyaron> EOF
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks happyaron
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:39] <Laney> • Tried to work with some CI and other people to unblock / investigate boottest failures which are bl0x0ring things in wily-proposed
[15:39] <Laney> • Related, help nudge along the platform-api transition
[15:39] <Laney> • webkit2: work on software-center, seems kind of working now, not finished
[15:39] <Laney> • Check out gnome-keyring with the new gnome3 pinentry instead of its internal agent, mail to -desktop, required some fixes in gpg
[15:40] <Laney> • Fix a broken glib test upstream (thanks larsu), cherry-pick it, upload to exp, sync to wily
[15:40] <Laney> • File libgom MIR; update grilo-plugins to use this; fix a bug upstream; make totem use this now.
[15:40] <Laney> 〠
[15:40] <larsu> Laney: thanks for mentioning that. I tend to forget those small things in my weeklies :)
[15:40] <willcooke> thx Laney
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:41] <larsu> - updated overlay scrollbar branch (testing and further design appreciated)
[15:41] <larsu> - tracked down our hidpi icon sizing issues to a single gtk commit. unclear how to fix yet
[15:41] <larsu> - theming! (file-roller, nautilus)
[15:41] <larsu> - what Laney said
[15:41] <larsu> - some misc gnome bugs
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[15:41] <seb128> what's the branch to test?
[15:42] <larsu> seb128:  lp:~larsu/ubuntu-themes/overlay-scrollbars
[15:42] <seb128> danke
[15:42]  * willcooke will try that in a vm too
[15:42] <larsu> that message dialog linked button problem is probably a gtk bug as wlel
[15:42] <larsu> happens in all themes
[15:42] <seb128> oh, right
[15:42] <seb128> :-/
[15:42] <larsu> I also looked into not expanding those for us
[15:42] <larsu> but might be tricky, as apps do that
[15:42] <larsu> so either we never expand button boxes or we patch apps
[15:43] <seb128> would we have many apps to patch?
[15:43] <larsu> don't know
[15:43] <larsu> my first not-very-thorough search didn't find more issues like this
[15:44] <seb128> I guess let's start by not doing anything and see if that's an issue
[15:44] <larsu> but who know, you know
[15:44] <larsu> *who knows
[15:44] <seb128> right
[15:44] <larsu> so keep the expanded ones?
[15:44] <seb128> I guess so
[15:44] <larsu> expanded/linked
[15:44] <larsu> ok
[15:44] <willcooke> fin?
[15:44] <larsu> ya, sorryt
[15:44] <willcooke> :) nw
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:45] <qengho> Hey!
[15:45] <qengho> * Discussions
[15:45] <qengho> ** Distribute Widevine and get Netflix support? Cr 44 should make it possible to use!
[15:45] <qengho> ** Some Firefox support chatter.
[15:45] <qengho> * I gave chromium-browser T+ to Chris for upload.
[15:45] <qengho> * Looked into glibc compatible shim for Precise release. Will work on P more soon.
[15:45] <qengho> * chromium/ozone/mir again. Starting to loathe C++.
[15:45] <qengho> EOF
[15:45] <seb128> qengho, do you need a wily sponsor?
[15:46] <qengho> seb128: Chris can handle it.
[15:46] <seb128> or is chris handling that was well?
[15:46] <seb128> good
[15:46] <willcooke> qengho, what news of Mir?
[15:46] <willcooke> ok
[15:46] <willcooke> ignore
[15:46] <willcooke> I see
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:47] <seb128> • landed unity-settings-daemon bugfixes (gsettings registration order, automounted watch for lockscreen as well as screensaver, those are different under unity)
[15:47] <seb128> • tested unity8 lock screen/desktop bugfix
[15:47] <seb128> • reviewed/sponsored an humanity-icon-theme bugfix for larsu
[15:47] <seb128> • spent some trying to register for debconf, grrr debian infrastructure
[15:47] <seb128> • chased people to get ubuntu touch bugfixes to land for the coming ota update
[15:47] <seb128> • snappy personal fun continued
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ switched from cloud-init to livecd-rootfs user creation (like in touch)
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ brought some extra tweaks from touch to desktop-next (extra writable paths, adding the user to more groups)
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ debugged grub config issues
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ reported some bugs about failing systemd jobs
[15:47] <seb128> ∘ current image is booting and login into a working unity8 session \o/
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[15:47] <willcooke> thx seb128
[15:47] <seb128> yw!
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> - fixed regression from a patch I reviewed upstream
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> - now at regressioncountzero from my own commits, or those I bear a resposibility for by affiliation or as a reviewer as far as I know (ignorance is a bliss!)
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> - tested/ported LibreOffice 4.4.4~rc3 forward to wily: seemed trivial, though not smoketested yet
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> - patch backporting to precise
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> - bug report grinding and overlooking at launchpad and bugs.documentfoundation.org
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:48] <willcooke> thx Sweet5hark
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:49]  * desrt eyes his internet connection with suspicion
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Ghostscript: Looked into syncing it with Debian again, packaged 9.16 based on Debian, which works technically but requires several MIRs
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - MIRs for Ghostscript: openjpeg, libtrio, libregexp-assemble-perl, libimage-exiftool-perl
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Thoughts about upstream future of ippusbxd
[15:49] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:49] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:50] <willcooke> * Continued working on refactoring a11y profile code in casper, about to start working on how things will be broken out per flavour, such that the settings package for each flavour will carry accessibility profile settings specific to that flavour.
[15:50] <willcooke> * Ran into a bug with regards to the use of GNOME screensaver and unity. GNOME screensaver is still used when Orca is being used, due to the Unity lock screen not being properly accessible yet. After a recent upgrade, found I could not unlock my desktop via gnome screensaver after entering my password, and could also bypass this by switching to a VT and back again. Investigation continues, suspect something systemd related as thats the o
[15:50] <willcooke> nly package I noticed that was upgraded that could have any bearing on lock screen/password authentication behavior for a seat.
[15:50] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:50] <willcooke> - Set up git branch for XMir (https://code.launchpad.net/~xmir-team/xorg-server/+git/xmir)
[15:50] <willcooke> - Merged in Andreas Pokorny's changes to make XMir work with upcoming Mir 0.14.0 and added package to landing-004 PPA
[15:50] <willcooke> - Package updates
[15:50] <willcooke> - Package sponsorship
[15:50] <willcooke> #topic Any other business
[15:50] <desrt> nice day to fly a kite, i say
[15:50] <willcooke> Thanks to Laney for following up on the build issues already
[15:51] <willcooke> it *is* a nice day to fly a kite
[15:51] <willcooke> any one for any more?
[15:51] <seb128> not me
[15:51] <willcooke> 1m timeout set...
[15:52] <Laney> seb128: could you promote for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgom/+bug/1471292 please?
[15:52] <Laney> #notaob
[15:52] <seb128> Laney, is there anything that is going to keep it in?
[15:52] <seb128> we usual promote only when needed
[15:53] <willcooke> let's go fly kites then...
[15:53] <seb128> otherwise it creates component mismatch noise and other archive admin demote it
[15:53] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul  7 15:53:07 2015 UTC.
[15:53] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-07-07-15.30.moin.txt
[15:53] <willcooke> thanks everyone
[15:53] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/0.2.14-5ubuntu1/+build/7628524
[15:53]  * Laney knows the rules
[15:53] <seb128> that's a "yes" I guess?
[15:53] <tkamppeter> seb128, you can make MIRs getting through more quickly? I have one very important, bug 1455644.
[15:53] <Laney> indeed
[15:53] <seb128> tkamppeter, sorry but I can't really...
[15:53] <Laney> tkamppeter: I only ask because it is approved
[15:53] <Laney> and he can execute the promotion
[15:53] <Laney> you need ~ubuntu-mir
[15:54] <desrt>  /away flying a kite
[15:54] <seb128> desrt, enjoy!
[15:54] <seb128> what's the hipe about kites today?!
[15:54] <desrt> (er, really, just lunch...)
[15:55] <desrt> seb128: did you ever see mary poppins?
[15:55] <seb128> no...
[15:55] <desrt> too bad
[15:55] <desrt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA-g8YYPKVo
[15:56] <happyaron> well good night guys
[15:56] <Laney> happyaron: 晚安
[15:57] <happyaron> wow
[15:57] <seb128> happyaron, night
[15:58] <willcooke> cya happyaron
[15:58] <desrt> seb128: really, just watch the movie.  it's an absolute classic :)
[15:59] <seb128> :-)
[15:59] <seb128> desrt, k!
[15:59] <seb128> desrt, enjoy lunch ;-)
[16:00] <Laney> beep beep beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeep
[16:00]  * Laney hears the 5pm pips
[16:01] <seb128> Laney, tea time?
[16:02] <Laney> tea and flapjack
[16:03] <seb128> Laney, libgom promoted
[16:03] <Laney> thanks!
[16:03] <seb128> yw!
[16:55] <attente> Laney: can you merge and upload https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-2?
[17:01] <Laney> yeah, probably tomorrow
[17:03] <attente> thanks
[17:03] <Laney> you can just request a review from me on the mp btw
[18:26]  * willcooke EOD