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tewardDaviey: ping01:21
tewardif you're not busy :)01:21
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ztane_should we downgrade our openssl ... :P07:16
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njmbb8hey guys, if i want to run a server and be able to run a gui, what is my best option?07:44
hellyeahdunno about topics this could be helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/53822/how-do-you-run-ubuntu-server-with-a-gui07:46
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lordievaderGood morning.08:28
skylitehow can I check if an hdd is part of an lvm?08:43
lordievaderskylite: Run 'pvs'.08:43
skylitethx08:43
jamespagemfisch, hey - I am working a 2.3.2 update for ovs - but blocked on some unit test failures atm08:56
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matadoreshelp ubuntu server 14.04 lts?11:26
bekksmatadores: Ask a question :)11:29
matadoresyou have tutorial  install antiddos ?11:30
matadoresand protectio my vps ?11:31
bekksmatadores: Is that a specific software or do you have an actual question? :)11:31
matadoresi am search tutorial protection and install anti-ddos11:32
matadoreshelp mi pray11:32
patdk-lapit is impossible to protect against a ddos, unless you unplug your network cables11:49
lordievaderIsn't that giving them, the attackers, an instant win?11:50
patdk-lapbasically, the one with the bigger guns wins, and the point of a ddos is, they can always scale to have the largest11:50
patdk-lapwell, if you get lucky, you can do something, like traffic profiling to block them11:50
patdk-lapbut then, that is just lazyness on their part :)11:50
patdk-lapthe only way to protect against it, is to blacklist as many incoming ip's as possible as fast as possible, and pray you aren't blocking ligit customers11:51
patdk-lapand the blocks must be at a level that has enough bandwidth to handle it11:52
patdk-lapso the ones with the most bandwidth wins11:52
patdk-lapand the latest ones for the last few years, it doesn't really matter how much bandwidth you have, it's not enough11:52
patdk-lapterrabits of bandwidth needed11:53
matadoresok11:56
matadoresThe attack always comes from one person or a maximum of 3 people12:01
lordievaderBlock those ;)12:01
matadorestutorial?12:02
matadoresI am just starting out with a vps ubuntu 14.0.4 lts12:02
matadoressorry for my english but use google translator12:03
lordievadermatadores: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:04
matadoreshow to use this command the vps throws me out and I have to reinstall12:05
matadoressudo iptables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT12:05
Tzunamiimatadores: Just add a timer to a shellscript that flushes all the Iptables rules after, let's say, 5 mins12:07
Tzunamiino need to reinstall12:07
lordievaderOr first allow ssh, or whatever you use to connect.12:08
matadoresi I tried to use the commands through ovh but the result that the controls were not working more than in the tutorial12:09
TzunamiiIn short, have a shellscript set a cron-job that will flush all the rules. After that functionality just add the Iptables rules you want to test.12:09
Tzunamiilordievader: that's how you do it the proper way12:10
Tzunamiiaka, dev mode12:10
teward'dev mode' - you know that what lordievader is saying is the proper way to do things?12:10
Tzunamiisigh12:11
tewardallow connections to only the ports you need opened, IP-restrict them as well if you want them more locked down, etc.?12:11
TzunamiiUnless you know what you're doing you can still screw up any pre-allowed service/port with subsequent rules. Hence the dev mode12:12
tewardTzunamii: FWIW they should be doing it 'right' rather than flushing all their iptables rules every 5 minutes (as they won't come back)12:12
TzunamiiYou're wrong, mate12:12
lordievaderIf anything, flush and then reload a save. Not just flush. That is rather bad for an internet facing server.12:12
teward^ that12:13
TzunamiiThe Iptables rules you want to test is (read: should be) in a script already, hence they won't "go away"12:13
lordievaderBut if you know what you are doing you don't need that 'dev-mode'.12:13
matadoresI want you to lock the user running the attack although it uses an IP not true12:13
Tzunamiilordievader: Even the best CSO can frack things up royally12:13
matadoresthe user running the attack also prides itself on using python12:14
tewardrbasak: ping, btw, if you're not busy :)12:15
lordievadermatadores: You know your attackers?12:15
matadoressi12:16
matadoresyes12:16
lordievadermatadores: Heh. Still, if it is just a handfull of IPs, just drop their traffic right away.12:16
matadoresyou can give me as you do?12:17
lordievadermatadores: Read the tutorial I gave you.12:18
matadoresexcuse my asking, but I do not know still use the commands and so I try to use the guide12:18
TzunamiiIn addition to lordievader's recommendation (HOWTO) I can recommend this tutorial as well https://www.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial/iptables-tutorial.html12:19
matadoresI have to run all the tutorial or a specific part?12:26
tewardmatadores: you should *read* the tutorial then run the relevant parts12:27
matadoresok12:28
tewardand while we *could* write up a ruleset for you, we don't actually know what servicse you want exposed to the internet, etc.12:29
tewardso we'd be *guessing* at what you need12:29
tewardand you wouldn't learn anything12:29
lordievader^ that, we want you to learn how to configure a firewall12:32
Davieya/wingoto #b12:32
matadoresI have to use only port 80 and 10090 in my site but I can also change the port 1009012:34
matadoreshow to use the control panel sentora12:35
bekksmatadores: this is the starting point: http://docs.sentora.org/?node=2312:57
matadoreshanks12:59
matadoresthanks*12:59
coreycbjamespage, zul, hey, can you review this?  https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/wily/python-fixtures/1.3.113:17
jamespagecoreycb, some feedback - pbr 1.2.0 means you don't need the patch for test-requirements13:19
jamespagecoreycb, does it build and unit test ok?13:19
coreycbjamespage, yes, build and unit test are ok.  I see pbr 1.2.0 is in proposed so I probably wasn't picking it up in the build.13:21
jamespagecoreycb, pbuilder?13:21
coreycbjamespage, sbuild13:21
jamespagehmm - sbuild should use proposed by default I think13:21
jamespagecoreycb, I only merged that this morning btw13:21
coreycbjamespage, ok lemme try again13:22
coreycbwithout patch13:22
jamespagecoreycb, no worries - I'll drop that as I merge and upload13:23
coreycbjamespage, cool thanks13:23
TeduardoHowdy everyone. Has anyone had any funky problems with sendmail in ubuntu 14 since the logjam thing?13:23
Teduardoi'm getting crazy tls issues13:24
jamespagecoreycb, I'm also going to version pbr >= 1.2.0 as that's the release that supports that python version foo13:24
coreycbjamespage, yep good idea13:25
jamespagecoreycb, that should unblock heat aside from the MIR's right?13:25
coreycbjamespage, I think so13:25
jamespagecoreycb, marked merged and uploaded - thanks!13:27
Teduardodoes anyone use ubuntu 14 and sendmail?13:29
bekksPeople do - but whats your actual question?13:29
Teduardoi'm trying to figure out why i'm getting this when trying to send email. 28496:error:14082174:SSL routines:SSL3_CHECK_CERT_AND_ALGORITHM:dh key too small:s3_clnt.c:3339 i actually found the error in google and created a new 2048 bit dh key13:32
Teduardois there a command that will regenerate the tls keys/certs for sendmail on ubuntu?13:34
tewardDaviey: rbasak: ping, again xD14:12
tewardDaviey: rbasak: No rush, but just an FYI: If the Security team needs to weigh in on the nginx issue, I talked to sarnold and he said that effectively his opinion in the ubuntu-server list could be considered the Security Team's view on the nginx issue.  You can reach out to him to confirm this, if you wish.14:14
Davieyteward: thans14:15
Daviey+k14:15
rbasakteward: sorry, pretty busy ATM. The TB email is on my list.14:33
tewardrbasak: no rush, just wanted to add the note above14:34
rbasakteward: ack, thanks.14:34
tewardi'm still writing out my plan-of-action either way14:34
tewardgot sidetracked with some Apache hell yesterday14:34
Teduardodo we think there will ever be a release of apache 2.4.10 or 11 for 14.04 lts? there is an annoying PCI DSS thing flagging with the LUA bug14:56
Teduardoeven though we arent using LUA the scanners are very stupid14:56
patdk-wkit will never happen14:57
patdk-wknot even sure why it would need to happen14:57
patdk-wkthis is normal pci dss scanner stuff you should solve14:57
patdk-wkeven if it was upgraded to 2.4.11 to solve that issue, next month you will be in here saying, my pci dss scanner says I have an issue and need to upgrade to 2.4.13, when will that be released?14:59
patdk-wk!usn14:59
ubottuPlease see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.14:59
TeduardoI'm sorry I asked.15:00
Pici/70/7015:00
mdeslaurTeduardo: like most Linux distros, we backport security patches, we don't update to new versions. See our FAQ here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Versions15:01
mdeslaurTeduardo: do you know which CVE they are referring to? Is it CVE-2014-8109?15:02
mdeslaurTeduardo: apache in 14.04 doesn't even compile mod_lua15:03
mdeslaurTeduardo: see here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-8109.html15:03
Davieyjcastro: Can you moderate ubuntu-cloud pls?15:15
Davieyjcastro: A user trying to report an issue with aws mirrors.15:15
jcastrouhh, I don't know how to do that?15:20
jcastroyou mean the mailing list?15:20
jcastroI thought it got subsumed by the server list?15:20
Davieyjcastro: Well there is still low volume traffic there..15:30
Davieyjcastro: mailman thinks you are the admin for the list... :/15:31
Davieysmoser, utlemming: Do you admin ubuntu-cloud list?15:32
lucidguyUbuntu server with two nics on same network different ips... configured dns round robin for host.  Obiously all  inboud packets will be balanced, but will the packet exit out the nic it came in?  Or will it goto a default first  NIC?15:32
smoserutlemming can probably dig it up15:32
jcastroDaviey: yeah sorry that's not me, we should fix it though, heh.15:33
Davieyjcastro: no worries, thanks :)15:33
bekkslucidguy: According to the TCP RFC, it chooses an interface randomly, if both have the same routing weights.15:36
jamespagecoreycb, urgh - just spotted this - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210631929/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.ceilometer_1%3A5.0.0~b1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz15:39
coreycbjamespage, hmm I'll look in a bit15:42
jamespagecoreycb, the sphinxcontrib stuff can be trimmed15:42
rbasakmatsubara: are still OK to chair the meeting today please?15:44
matsubararbasak, yes15:45
rbasakThanks!15:48
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jamespagecoreycb, heat uploaded - I trimmed the sql related bd's out - not required for now16:07
jamespagebut we do need to switch python-mysqldb <-> python-pymsql this cycle16:07
coreycbjamespage, ok, thanks16:07
jamespagecoreycb, it won't build until the MIR for the clients completes and an archive-admin does the promotions16:08
jamespagecoreycb, urgh - I still have horizon on my list16:08
tewardit's official - i'm developing a hatred for VPS providers' default Ubuntu images16:11
tewardwe don't have Apache installed by default with a standard server install do we?16:11
teward(i.e. if they skip tasksel and such)16:12
smoserteward, no. ubuntu server install would not have that. either in cloud-image or default from d-i media.16:19
tewardthen that's where all these nginx bugs're coming from16:19
jrwrenthis is why CPC is awesome.16:19
tewardsmoser: also d-i media?  (I'm not 100% fluent in all shortened names/acronyms yet)16:20
smoserdebian-installer16:21
tewardah ok16:21
smoserie, download of server iso16:21
tewardsmoser: was there a reason that Apache is included by default on cloud and d-i media?16:21
jrwrenteward: its not.16:22
tewardthen i'm confused16:22
tewardbecause people are apparently installing nginx on new things and getting Apache conflicts16:22
tewardbecause port 80 can't be bound to, so postinst fails16:22
tewardand this is brand new with something in 15.0416:22
teward'cause no others have that problem16:22
jrwrenyes, that is true, you can apt-get install apache2 nginx and both packages will install and boht default to port 80 and conflict.16:23
smoserit wouldnt surprise me if a provider of a vps made an install that had apache installed.16:23
tewardI know some VPS providers roll it out and are a pita16:23
jrwrenone would have to install both packages.16:23
tewardsmoser: i know that RamNode does that and I've already thrown a wrench at them16:23
tewardjrwren: or have Apache preinstalled - which AFAICT appears to be the case16:23
tewardbased on these apt logs i keep looking at16:23
teward(in the bugs)16:23
tewardthe trouble is, there's no usable debug info in the 'fail to install' reports, because the systemd logs and other logs aren't included with the bugs16:24
jrwrenteward: maybe for their tasksel. its certainly not preinstalled on cloud-image or -server install16:24
tewardso it ends up with 10 or 15 Incomplete bugs because we need more info16:24
smoserwell, ideally you put apport hooks into nginx16:24
smoserand then tell people to run 'apport-collect' or 'ubuntu-bug'16:24
tewardsmoser: i have yet to find detailed documentation for that or a useful resource16:24
smoserand it collects installed packages and such.16:24
tewardsmoser: it already does that stuff, i need a new hook to grab data from other commands16:25
tewardwhere's one of thsoe bugs...16:25
tewardwe also need translators 'cause i can't read anything but english >.<16:25
smoserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/146253016:25
smoserthat was filed via 'ubuntu-bug linux'.16:26
tewardsmoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1447294  <-- example of a post-installation failure bug16:26
smoserit collects up all thatCRDA, CurrentDmesg...16:26
jrwrenIMO we should encourage VPS providers to use cloud-image and join CPC16:26
tewardwhat it needs to pull is the `journalctl -xe` output, and/or the `systemctl status nginx.service` data16:26
tewardsmoser: and I can't find how to force such apport hooks16:26
smoseroh. i see.16:26
tewardsmoser: several of these're nonstandard configurations or a likely Apache conflict16:27
smoseri dont really know how you'd get that.16:27
tewardsmoser: nor do I, hence my question about Apache16:27
tewardmost of these're caused by something listening on port 8016:27
smoseri'm sure pitti would know.16:27
tewardotherwise it'd be a bigger fireball in the dpkg logs and such16:27
teward'cause this kind of stuff ain't useful:16:28
tewardApr 22 14:24:32 hostname systemd[1]: Failed to start A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server.16:28
tewardApr 22 14:24:32 hostname systemd[1]: nginx.service failed.16:28
teward^ E: Not Useful16:28
smoseryeah, that' seem like you could get better info.16:29
tewardsmoser: and alas: that's all systemd gives you16:29
tewardit actually says "Please check [other commands]"16:29
tewardso i'm about ready to take systemd and throw it into /dev/null16:29
jrwreni miss /var/log/upstart/ logs of stdout and stderr16:29
tewardhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1471713 <-- THIS is a clear "Won't Fix" or "Invalid"16:30
tewardand a clear evidence of the issue of apache conflicting16:30
tewardsmoser: short of me modifying the postinst script to (a) check if the Apache service exists, and if it does stop Apache, or (b) check if port 80 is open or not, that's not a fixable bug16:32
tewardand can have unintended other hell if you just need to install nginx to run it on a different port (i.e. could take down a production web server)16:33
jrwrenor nginx conflicts apache2 deb, which would be terrible.16:33
tewardjrwren: indeed, and that's an unacceptable option16:33
tewardone i refuse to touch16:33
tewards/touch/use/16:34
jrwreni use nginx on 81 and apache on 80 and much crazy proxying  :)16:34
tewardso either we need apport hooks to call in the data from those other commands that it's saying to include, or I have to flesch out the postinst scripts and cause undesired behavior with Apache being installed on the system16:34
tewardjrwren: i use nginx on multiple ports, and also Apache on others, so as I said, it'd cause potentially undesired behavior.16:34
tewardbut the postinst script *could* check if port 80 is bound to, and if it is, just not start nginx16:35
tewardand make a note saying "Check what's listening on port 80, or have nginx listen on a different port, before starting the service/"16:35
jrwrendo we have any other cases of services in main which don't deb conflict and use the same ports by default? I'd guess no.16:35
tewardjrwren: in main?  probably not.16:35
jrwrenright, I think that is a great solution.16:35
tewardbut lighttpd comes to mind if we expand to Universe16:35
tewardjrwren: i'd be lucky to be able to get that in as an SRU though, but it could be an SRU to prevent fail-to-install-due-to-port-80 binds and such16:36
jrwrenexim, postfix, sendmail, likely all conflict with each other.  various identds various ntpds16:36
tewardmhm16:36
tewardwhat tools exist in a default plain install to test if ports are bound to?16:37
tewardnetstat?  (yes I know it's old)16:37
jrwrenlsof maybe?16:37
smoserpython ? perl ?16:40
smosertwethe issue though, is that:16:40
smoser 'apt-get install service'16:40
smoseron ubuntu should result in that service running16:40
smoserand if it doesnt, then that is arguably a bug.16:40
smoserie, fixing your behavior to "do not fail install if i can't bind to port 80" is arguably creating a bug.16:41
smoserteward, ^16:41
tewardsmoser: agreed, and neither of my options are desirable16:42
tewardsmoser: ultimately, though, the bug report would have more details16:42
smoserright. and a useful ereror message to the user.16:42
tewardso we can "Invalid" half the bugs and provide "Find the conflicting port binding program"16:42
tewardas a workaround16:42
jrwrenteward: /proc/*/net/tcp and translate the hex port :)16:42
tewardPART of that is apport hooks16:42
tewardunrelated: does the cloud team or otherwise provide openvz images or no?16:43
tewardsmoser: i assume pitti's the go-to for apport hooks?16:44
tewardjrwren: LOL16:46
jrwrenteward: hey, it works well. cat /proc/*/net/tcp | grep :005016:47
smoserteward, yeah, i'd start there.16:48
tewardsmoser: if apport hooks won't work, then something in the postinst script to check if port 80 is bound anywhere, and exit with an actually meaningful error to stdout and such might be more useful than just 'passing' over the error16:48
smoserjrwren, http://www.smallo.ruhr.de/award.html16:48
tewardand i'd rather NOT have to have an apache2 conflicts, because then people using both simultaneously get mad16:49
smoserjust because :)16:49
smoserwell, you may have thought of this, but one solution might be to give someone a package that does not (by design) start the service.16:49
smoserso:16:50
smoser apt-get install nginx16:50
smoserstarts the service or fails as espected16:50
smoser apt-get install nginx-manual16:50
smoserdoes not16:50
smoseri16:50
tewardsmoser: we'd have to replicate 4 binaries then16:50
smoseryeah, i'm sure you've thought of a lot of this stuff.16:50
tewardnginx-core-manual nginx-light-manual nginx-extras-manual nginx-full-manual16:50
tewardand that makes a HUGE delta from Debian16:50
tewardwhich we're actually trying to reduce xD16:50
smoserwhy are these not debian bugs ?16:51
tewardsmoser: because people use sane Debian images?16:51
jrwrensmoser: yes, I know :)  thanks for calling me out on it16:51
tewardsmoser: i can't answer why they aren't but still16:51
smoserwell, its still a bug that you get crap failure out of out of 'apt-get install'16:51
tewardsmoser: right, in either case16:51
tewardand i could create a replica situation by installing APache in Debian and see if I can reproduce the problem16:52
teward(there, though, there's no apport hooks, so a bug report would contain 0 useful infromaiton compared to mildly useful info)16:52
tewardi know the problem - `ubuntu-bug` is too user friendly.  loljk16:52
ash_mif my default ssh config doesn't have a AllowTcpForwarding line, should I still write one to set it to no?16:52
tewardsmoser: the other issue with a -manual package would be that it too needs a main promotion - which of course is a separate review16:57
smoserbinary main promotions are not really a problem16:57
smoserie, from same source.16:58
tewardmmm16:58
Kully3xfhow can I pass in text into a script17:24
Kully3xflike if the script asks "how many servers" when ran, how can I include that information in the command17:25
brett__Anyone using Trusty as a Samba PDC to set temporary password for new users which they must change at their first login?17:28
lamontno password stuff here, it's just a fileshare17:29
tarpmanbrett__: i'm running a samba classic PDC (not AD) with openldap as backend, not sure whether that's relevant for you17:30
coreycbjamespage, I must need an sbuild config change b/c currently it doesn't fail the build if a dep is in universe.17:32
brett__tarpman: I really appreciate the response! We're presently using tdbsam as a backend, but I'd love to know what mechanism you are using to force users to change their passwords. I'm an LDAP idiot and don't know if there are tools baked in for this or if you use PAM or something else...?17:32
tarpmanbrett__: I force a password change by setting "sambaPwdLastSet: 0" in the LDAP database. you could probably do a similar thing against tdbsam using pdbedit...17:33
brett__tarpman: Huh.We used to use "net sam set pwdmustchangenow <USER> yes" and I've seen references to  "sambaPwdLastSet" but wasn't sure it would work with Samba4. I'll give it a try! Thank you mucho!17:35
lucidguybekks: thanks17:35
tarpmanbrett__: sambaPwdLastSet is specific to the samba3-openldap schema, I have no idea what the equivalent is in a samba4 world, sorry17:36
brett__tarpman: No problem, like I said I'm grateful for the hint anyway. In #samba I was directed to samba-tools but that appears to be very AS focused. Anyway, thanks again for the suggestion!17:38
sarnoldKully3xf: most scripts that accept input do so on standard input, so you cna do something like "echo 10 | ./script" and it'll supply the 10 to standard input17:51
Kully3xfcool thanks17:51
coreycbjamespage, testing is done and complete on precise icehouse proposed for 2014.1.518:19
ash_mif my default ssh config doesn't have a AllowTcpForwarding line, should I still write one to set it to no?18:36
Tzunamiiyes, the default is 'yes'19:09
Seveasash_m: the default is on.19:36
Seveasso no need to set it19:36
Seveasah, I misread 'no?' as 'on?'. Yes, you need to write an AllowTcpForwarding line to disable it :)19:37
Tzunamii>.<19:37
TzunamiiAlready answered that19:37
jamespagecoreycb, awesome-o19:38
ash_mSeveas: thanks :)19:41
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coreycbjamespage, new proposal for ceilometer - https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+git/ceilometer/+ref/master20:02
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ash_mI'm not sure how this works. eth0, eth1... are interfaces right?20:10
ash_mis there a command to show which adpater each interface uses?20:11
cryptodan_laptopash_m: yes "sudo ifconfig"20:16
ash_mcryptodan_laptop: I see... I can't ssh to my vbox for some reason :(20:17
ash_mcryptodan_laptop: (thanks)20:17
cryptodan_laptopash_m: is your vbox using bridged or nat?20:24
ash_mNAT20:24
tewardash_m: you need to set up the NAT rules to allow 22 in over the NAT to the specific VM20:25
cryptodan_laptopash_m: use bridge so it can get an IP from the router or dhcp pool20:25
tewardcryptodan_laptop: alternatively they can change the NAT20:25
tewardnat rules*20:25
ash_mteward: I set up a host only adapter and configured the network config file on the server20:26
ash_mteward: I can ping that adapter at least.20:26
tewardash_m: i meant at VBox20:27
tewardnot on the 'server'20:27
cryptodan_laptopId recommend switching to bridged its much easier20:27
ash_mteward: yeah, I have a host-only adapter on vbox20:27
tewardash_m: is the host-only adapter on the host added to the server?20:27
tewardand did you update the IPs there?20:27
tewardand did you install openssh-server?20:27
ash_mteward: I've installed openssh-server and I've configured /etc/network/interfaces20:28
jamespagecoreycb, problem with ceilometer20:28
jamespage"ceilometer.tests.publisher.test_kafka_broker_publisher" errors with an import error; but testr just ignores those20:28
jamespagethe kafka patch might need some updating20:29
coreycbjamespage, hmm ok I'll look.  not sure why it worked for me.20:31
jamespagecoreycb, it builds fine - just skips the unit tests20:31
jamespageRan 0 tests in 2.546s20:32
jamespage\o/20:32
coreycbjamespage, oh shoot20:32
coreycbjamespage, technically that's 100% success20:33
jamespageha20:36
ash_mteward: any ideas on what to troubleshoot :(20:46
ash_m?*20:46
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erkburglesenough messing around, straightforward question possibly no answer-how in the hell do i free my photos from the maximum security osx prison and import them to ubuntu22:29
erkburglesparticularly speaking of IPHOTO22:30
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axisysto upgrade from 10.04.04 LTS do I just run do-release-upgrade ?23:36
bekks!eolupgrade | axisys23:37
ubottuaxisys: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:37
sarnoldaxisys: yes, note this bug might bite you once you're up and running https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates/+bug/147237823:38
axisyssarnold: I dont have any web server running23:39
axisyssarnold: thanks for the link tho23:41
axisysI guess I will need two upgrade to get the latest LTS?23:43
axisysthis is ubuntu server23:43
axisysI guess reboot (before start, just in case); apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; reboot; do-release-upgrade?23:44
sarnoldaxisys: yeah, you're two releases behind; your plan for updating to trusty makes sense to me23:47
sarnoldaxisys: the ca-certificates issue will actually affect ssl/tls connections that your server initiates; I don't think it'll matter to a web server...23:47
axisyssarnold: I am mostly using ssh ..23:49
axisysthis is a jumpstation I am upgrading23:50
sarnoldnice, then it's unlikely to matter much :)23:50
sarnoldbesides, the precise->trusty upgrade may fix it all up anyhow23:50
axisyswill kick it in 10 mins23:50
sarnolddo you have console access to the system? updates ought to work but it's always nice to make sure you've got a backup mechanism to log in23:51
axisysso reboot -> apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade; reboot -> apt-get install update-manager-core; do-release-upgrade  ?23:51
axisyssarnold: ^23:52
axisysand update-manager I guess23:52
sarnoldaxisys: sounds good to me23:52
axisysdo I need to upgrade the sources.list file too? that seems odd23:54
sarnolddo-release-upgrade ought to handle that23:56
axisyscool.. kicking it in 3 mins23:57

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