[05:05] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[05:06] <mazal> More oom barry
[06:05] <Kilos> hi barrydk  mazal  MaNI  and others
[06:05] <mazal> More oom
[06:33] <inetpro> good morning
[06:33] <inetpro> oh and hi oom Kilos
[06:33] <Kilos> hi there inetpro  
[07:28] <MaNI> morning
[07:28] <Kilos> :)
[07:29] <Kilos> we actually have the richest community of them all
[07:30] <Kilos> social community that is
[07:49] <barrydk> Mazal ek gee nie om as jy vir oom Kilosoom se nie, maar ek is nie met jou tannie getroud nie
[07:49] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:52] <Kilos> we had no power last night from 10pm till 4.30am this morning
[07:52] <Kilos> 5 mins after i said night the power cut
[08:06] <MaNI> ouch
[08:53]  * mazal checks
[08:54] <mazal> maaz where is everyone
[08:54] <Maaz> mazal: Not a clue, sorry
[08:55] <Kilos> here man
[08:56] <Kilos> peeps just in the lurking mode
[08:56] <Kilos> blame it on busy
[09:16] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[09:16] <pieter2627> oh, hi all and oom Kilos
[09:21] <Kilos> ai! time to use twitter again, my speedtest sucks
[11:44] <Kilos> aw missed again
[12:03] <mazal> lol
[12:04] <mazal> oom Kilos , to get that man to say something is no easy task :)
[12:04] <Kilos> blame inetpro  
[12:05] <Kilos> i need to go back to only 2 channels open and set join alerts
[12:05] <Kilos> then i can hear peeps sneak in
[12:10] <inetpro> Kilos: blame me for what?
[12:10] <Kilos> lol
[12:10] <Kilos> making me rtfs stuff
[12:11] <inetpro> ai!
[12:11] <Kilos> over 500 pages sigh
[12:11] <inetpro> Kilos: thats not RTFS stuff?
[12:11] <Kilos> rtft
[12:11] <Kilos> rtfp
[12:11] <inetpro> it's either RTFD or RTFM
[12:11] <Kilos> rtsomething or other
[12:12] <inetpro> :-)
[12:12] <Kilos> haha
[12:12] <Kilos> peeps are joining
[12:13] <Kilos> the guy that designed the lp page left out a block for country
[12:18] <Kilos> cotedivoire just joined
[12:19] <Kilos> hehe
[12:34] <mazal> Bye for now all
[12:34] <Kilos> cheers maz
[12:34] <Kilos> ai!
[14:27] <Kilos> wb mazal  
[14:27] <mazal> ta
[16:08] <inetpro> good evening
[16:08] <inetpro> Kilos: are you at least enjoying it?
[16:08] <Kerbero> Evening 
[16:09] <Kilos> lol what the cold inetpro  ?
[16:09] <inetpro> Kilos: no the RTFM
[16:09] <inetpro> the book
[16:10] <Kilos> yes it is everything i dont do
[16:10] <inetpro> haha :-)
[16:10] <Kilos> hehe
[16:10] <inetpro> what chapter are you at now?
[16:11] <Kilos> only page 18
[16:11] <Kilos> maybe about 10% of the book
[16:12] <Kilos> i read everything from the beginning
[16:12] <inetpro> hmm... just one more page and then you're done with chapter 1
[16:12]  * inetpro finished CH1 last night
[16:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:13] <Kilos> i read on and off all day
[16:13] <inetpro> cool
[16:13] <Kilos> but its a nice read
[16:13] <inetpro> yeah, very well written indeed
[16:14] <Kilos> so you guys mustnt moan when i tell stories about things
[16:14] <Kilos> hehe
[16:15] <Kilos> i still need to find out how to contact the cc
[16:15] <Kilos> did you notice? only 5 countries left to find now
[16:20]  * inetpro didn't notice
[16:20] <inetpro> well done Kilos!
[16:20] <inetpro> just keep moving and you'll get them all soon
[16:20] <Kilos> and the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members is growing lekker
[16:21] <Kilos> only it needs a block for country
[16:21]  * inetpro noticed the emails
[16:21] <Kilos> dunno who made that page with out foresight
[16:22] <inetpro> uh
[16:22] <Kilos> hehe
[16:23] <inetpro> you sure you don't want address and telephone numbers as well?
[16:23] <Kilos> no i dont have airtime to fone them
[16:23] <inetpro> maybe even room number et all
[16:24] <inetpro> gps coordinates
[16:24] <Kilos> i actually have all that info from one of them
[16:24] <inetpro> ai!
[16:25] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't think it's that important
[16:25] <Kilos> and he is a clever guy
[16:26] <Kilos> Doctorat/PhD Student in Mathématiques Informatique et Applications (MIA)
[16:26] <inetpro> remember the real goal
[16:26] <Kilos> i only wanted country so i dont sukkel to find who is where
[16:26] <inetpro> you want Locos to thrive at the local level
[16:26] <inetpro> LoCos
[16:27] <Kilos> yes but they all need encouragement  and weaning from fb
[16:27] <Kilos> ive even been to fb to see the namibia guys
[16:27] <inetpro> nothing wrong with peeps being on FB
[16:27] <Kilos> nono 
[16:28] <inetpro> all you need is for some of them to cross-over to IRC
[16:28] <Kilos> but it is if they ignore irc
[16:28] <Kilos> the nm guy had to install an irc client again, he says its been long since it was used
[16:29] <inetpro> Ubuntu is bigger than just IRC
[16:29] <Kilos> and their founder passed away
[16:29] <Kilos> not for me
[16:29] <Kilos> i do irc
[16:31] <inetpro> Kilos: nobody said you have to cross over to FB
[16:33] <Kilos> so then that means those that live in fb must come join me on irc
[16:33] <Kilos> but if necessary ill fetch them there
[16:34] <inetpro> ai!
[16:34] <Kilos> hee3 hee
[16:35] <Kilos> is cotedivoire the ivory coast
[16:38] <inetpro> Kilos: FB is not the only other place with members of the Linux/Ubuntu community
[16:38] <Kilos> and the tweet place
[16:38] <Kilos> and other similar things
[16:39] <Kilos> icq or something
[16:39] <inetpro> they exist everywhere, from specialised mailing lists, to forums, G+, etc, etc
[16:39] <Kilos> i will go there when i have africa
[16:39] <Kilos> then help other locos to rebuilt
[16:40] <Kilos> maybe start an irc channel #ubuntu-world and get my team to build a site
[16:40]  * Kilos hides
[16:41] <inetpro> haha
[16:41] <Kilos> im actually enjoying every minut
[16:41] <Kilos> e
[16:43] <Kilos> maybe ill mail mugabe to find me the buntu peeps there
[16:43] <inetpro> wow!
[16:43] <inetpro> 50 active members have joined Ubuntu Africa already
[16:44] <Kilos> it was 24 just now
[16:44] <Kilos> what happened
[16:44] <Kilos> no man 26
[16:44] <inetpro>  There are 26 direct members of the "Ubuntu Africa" team, and 50 people are members in total, directly and indirectly through other team memberships. 
[16:44] <Kilos> get your glasses
[16:45] <Kilos> oh my
[16:45]  * Kilos gets better glasses
[16:45] <Kilos> oh my
[16:46] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[16:46] <magespawn> good evening
[16:46] <inetpro> Kilos: Ubuntu-ci
[16:46] <Kilos> join ubuntu-africa quick before it explodes
[16:47] <Kilos> oh are they all from there
[16:47] <Kilos> i dunno how you saw that
[16:47] <inetpro> Ubuntu CI joined as a team
[16:47] <Kilos> oh i wondered about that
[16:48] <Kilos> clevber move
[16:48] <Kilos> clever
[16:48] <Kilos> that ivory coast right?
[16:48] <Kilos> this place cotedivoire
[16:48] <inetpro> yep, 26 members in one go
[16:48] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:49] <Kilos> shame they even replied in english after cheche told them i cant do french
[16:53] <Cryterion> more channels in my list now, lol
[16:54] <Kilos> ?
[16:54] <Cryterion> seem the ubuntu-africa one now
[16:54] <Cryterion> seem/seen
[16:54] <Kilos> only now?
[16:55] <Cryterion> saw it the other day, but on auto join now
[16:55] <Kilos> cool
[16:56] <Kilos> then you will make the inauguration meeting on the 29th
[16:56] <Kilos> as soon as i find them i wanna try get some cc guys to attend
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <Cryterion> cool
[17:03] <mazal> brrrrrrrrrr
[17:03] <mazal> I'm so cold I'm to scared to take sb
[17:03] <Kilos> whats sb?
[17:03] <mazal> smokebreak
[17:04] <Kilos> lol
[17:04] <mazal> IE , go outside
[17:10] <Kilos> haha
[17:11] <Kilos> this house is just as cold as it is outside
[17:20]  * Cryterion get to smoke inside
[17:20] <Kilos> lol
[17:22] <mazal> I live alone , but still don't
[17:23] <mazal> A promise I made to myself when I moved in
[17:25] <Cryterion> everyone else here smokes inside, so I'd look odd if went outside all the time
[17:25] <mazal> lol
[17:25] <Kilos> hehe
[17:25] <Cryterion> you guys know much about mail servers?
[17:26] <Kilos> fly will
[17:26] <Cryterion> ok, will try catch him just now
[17:26] <Kilos> most likely pro too
[17:27] <Cryterion> inetpro, superfly are either of you around?
[17:27] <Kilos> fly is afk
[17:27] <Kilos> pro lurking
[17:27] <Kilos> what do you want to know\
[17:28] <Kilos> be patient till 8.30 Cryterion  
[17:28] <Cryterion> dovecot somehow need root access
[17:28] <Cryterion> Ok cool
[17:29] <Kilos> they got family time first
[17:29] <Cryterion> Ah, cool, that's more important
[17:29] <inetpro> Cryterion: no, I'm here :-)
[17:29] <Cryterion> Hi inetpro
[17:30] <inetpro> what's up doc?
[17:31] <Cryterion> having trouble getting dovecot to work properly
[17:31] <Cryterion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
[17:32] <inetpro> what's the problem?
[17:33] <Cryterion> When I log into the server via opensll and run the A3 Examine Inbox command, dovecot doesn't have the permission to access
[17:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:35] <inetpro> I'll be honest, I know about dovecot but have never run it
[17:35] <Cryterion> Ok
[17:36] <Cryterion> Which do you know that's easy to work with?
[17:36] <inetpro> you just reminded me that I wanted to try it a few years ago but I never got to do it and ended up never really needing it
[17:37] <inetpro> I simply use gmail
[17:37] <Cryterion> hate gmail
[17:37] <inetpro> you want to use it for how many users?
[17:37] <Kilos> lol
[17:37] <inetpro> Cryterion: I understand 
[17:37] <Cryterion> only a few, family really, own private domain
[17:38] <inetpro> makes sense
[17:39] <inetpro> Cryterion: did you set up LDAP?
[17:39] <Cryterion> LDAP?
[17:39] <inetpro> "To configure Dovecot to use LDAP for user authentication see DovecotLDAP"
[17:39] <inetpro> from the link above
[17:39] <Cryterion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer that's the quidelines I'm using
[17:41] <inetpro> at the office I've been running exim for a number of years but just as MTA
[17:46] <Cryterion> does it run as the MDA as well?
[17:47] <Cryterion> Looks as though it does, with the SMTP config
[17:47] <inetpro> Cryterion: the MDA alone is not enough
[17:48] <Cryterion> Yeah I know, you need the MTA(Rx) and MDA(Tx)
[17:48] <Cryterion> Gonna try it
[17:49] <inetpro> I would start with the MTA
[17:49] <inetpro> or find an article that combines the two in one
[17:49] <Cryterion> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/exim4.html
[17:49] <inetpro> others prefer postfix these days
[17:50] <Cryterion> I have postfix, as the MTA, but have problems with dovecot as the MDA
[17:51] <inetpro> ah
[17:52] <inetpro> Cryterion: also look at different articles at Debian Administration 
[17:52] <Cryterion> Will do
[17:52] <inetpro> like https://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ia64/ch08s05.html.en
[17:52] <inetpro> or https://www.debian-administration.org/article/275/Setting_up_an_IMAP_server_with_dovecot
[17:54] <inetpro> Cryterion: and tell us how you fixed it when you got it done :-)
[17:54] <Cryterion> Lol will
[17:54] <Cryterion> tks
[17:55] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <inetpro> one day when I have proper bandwidth at home I might want to set up a similar solution
[17:57] <inetpro> Cryterion: if I remember correctly I once played with SquirrelMail as well
[17:57] <Cryterion> I'll get back to SquirrelMail later on :)
[17:57] <Kilos> oh my thats good to see
[17:57] <Cryterion> I do want to implement it
[17:57] <Kilos> no iirc
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: :-)
[17:58] <Kilos> hee hee
[17:58] <Kilos> i used to suffer with all them shortcut things
[18:00] <inetpro> Cryterion: and if you want to get serious, install zimbra
[18:00] <Cryterion> zimbra?
[18:01] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbra
[18:01] <inetpro> or https://www.zimbra.com/
[18:02] <Cryterion> Will check shortly, setting up exim4
[18:02] <Kilos> inetpro  just remembered
[18:02] <Kilos> werent we gonna try find a way to get the lugs more involved with something or other
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: like?
[18:03] <Kilos> i dunno
[18:03] <Kilos> wasnt it a suggestion by fly?
[18:03] <Kilos> at a meeting even
[18:03] <inetpro> find it
[18:03] <Kilos> nono
[18:03] <Kilos> you are mister findit
[18:04] <Kilos> im finding all of africa
[18:04] <nuvolari> Maaz: is spamrl.com up?
[18:04] <Kilos> hi nuvolari  
[18:04] <inetpro> lugs get too complicated for me
[18:04] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos 
[18:04] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed?
[18:04] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, http://spamrl.com/ is down (Server is not responding)
[18:05] <Kilos> ja dankie en daar seun
[18:05]  * inetpro falls off his chair
[18:05] <Kilos> ek hood jy is nou n fiksheid fanatic
[18:05] <nuvolari> nice. so a domain is enlisted at spamrl.com and mails get rejected, but can't clear the blacklisting
[18:05] <inetpro> nuvolari: that really you?
[18:06]  * nuvolari sends a cold wind down inetpro's spine
[18:06] <nuvolari> :P
[18:06] <inetpro> welcome back sir
[18:06] <Kilos> hehe
[18:06] <nuvolari> why thank you inetpro 
[18:06] <Kilos> jy baie stout nuvolari  
[18:06] <inetpro> nuvolari: you are as scarce as hen's teeth
[18:08] <nuvolari> wat het ek gedone omo Kilos ?
[18:08] <nuvolari> *oom
[18:08] <Kilos> jy kom nooit hier nie nuvolari  en blameer besig
[18:09]  * nuvolari is quite impressed with this chromebook and all the tools available
[18:09] <nuvolari> blameer besig?
[18:09] <nuvolari> oh
[18:09] <Kilos> ja in engels
[18:09] <Kilos> very busy
[18:10] <Kilos> busy gymming and jock stuff isnt a good enough excuse
[18:12] <Kilos> even the pro finds the time to say morning
[18:12] <Kilos> in the avy or evening
[18:18] <Kilos> Russ_|Away  in the dark time too?
[18:20] <Russ_|Away> nope
[18:20] <Kilos> you guys are like ian, he says he was busy after a whole afternoon asleep
[18:21] <Kilos> Russ_|Away  if you get too busy you slack off to much and mess up your health
[18:21] <Kilos> as in not enough curry
[18:21] <Kilos> wb Cryterion  
[18:21] <Kilos> oh you here twice
[18:21] <Cryterion_> Tks, I tripped our power 
[18:21] <Cryterion_> hmm
[18:21] <Kilos> wow how
[18:22] <Cryterion_> Extension broke, must be lose wire, moved it and bang
[18:22] <Kilos> eeek
[18:24] <Kilos> inetpro  question
[18:24] <Kilos> (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). is a ping from where to where
[18:25]  * Kilos sees who_da_fly but dont know if its safe to greet yet
[18:31] <Cryterion> Kilos: that was my previous session timing out, I probably got a new Ip when my router connected again
[18:31] <Cryterion> Ping from Server to Client to keep connection alive
[18:32] <Kilos> yes i know but when it says ping timeout from where is the ping
[18:32] <Kilos> oh ok ty
[18:32] <Cryterion> or vice versa, think client sends the pings, server gives the pongs
[18:38] <nuvolari> uh oh
[18:38] <nuvolari> think I broke linode manager
[18:38] <Kilos> uh oh
[18:38] <nuvolari> all sorts of interesting things happening tonight
[18:39] <nuvolari> does anyone know how RSI feel?
[18:39] <nuvolari> *what it feels like
[18:41] <nuvolari> Maaz: is linode.com up?
[18:41]  * nuvolari freaks out
[18:42] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, https://linode.com/ is down (Server is not responding)
[18:42] <nuvolari> never thought I'd see this day
[18:42] <nuvolari> dare I join their channel and fish?
[18:43] <Kilos> ya they cant kill you
[18:44] <Cryterion> we think
[18:44] <Kilos> lol
[18:44] <nuvolari> too much effort
[18:44] <nuvolari> their official channel is on oftc
[18:44] <nuvolari> not going there now
[19:03] <Kilos> wow
[19:03] <Kilos> smile met kerbero in belguim today
[19:10] <mazal> Night everyone , sleep well
[19:30] <superfly> Cryterion: yo
[19:31] <Cryterion> Hi, I seem to on track for a bit, reading, inetpro helped out
[19:31] <Cryterion> But ideas would still help, mailserver setup
[19:31] <Kilos> evening superfly  
[19:32] <superfly> Cryterion: iRedMail. Does it all for you
[19:32] <Cryterion> Will look into it tks
[19:33] <superfly> it's basically a script. I would prefer it if it had a proper upgrade path, but it's not bad the way it is
[19:34] <Kilos> superfly  have you seen https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa/+members
[19:34] <Kilos> you guys awoke a monster
[19:35] <superfly> Kilos: I've seen all the membership applications coming through
[19:35] <superfly> You'd better keep them busy
[19:35] <Kilos> oh wow
[19:35] <superfly> right now, I need to attend to the family
[20:49] <Cryterion> I assume Telkom is busy doing something, grrr
[20:49] <Kilos> lol
[20:50] <Kilos> twitter is good for waking them up
[20:50] <Cryterion> lol, seen you comment that a few times, my DSL link just gone for 40mins
[20:50] <Cryterion> just came back now
[21:40] <inetpro> good night everyone
[21:41] <Kilos> night inetpro  sleep tight
[21:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:33] <Cryterion> Morning everyone, sleep time :)