| bjf | kamal, i'm including an ACK for you on that patch | 00:07 |
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| kamal | bjf, yes please | 00:08 |
| bjf | dannf, i'm going to adjust the commit subject just a little (drop the [3-13-stable only]) | 00:11 |
| dannf | bjf: oh, sure | 00:11 |
| kamal | bjf, fyi here's the version I applied to 3.13-stable http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/linux.git/commit/?h=linux-3.13.y-queue&id=eef5d05f530ba16df8f758f6ae72f62e4ac7a503 | 00:12 |
| bjf | infinity, dannf trusty uploaded | 02:57 |
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| awe | cking, around? | 16:15 |
| cking | awe, just about | 16:15 |
| awe | so I just had a recent utopic kernel update land on my macair, and it nuked by rEFInd install... | 16:16 |
| awe | thankfully I was able to boot, by powering on with the Option key pressed | 16:16 |
| awe | this is the first time I've ever had an Ubuntu update nuke it | 16:17 |
| awe | ( it's usually the other way around ) | 16:17 |
| awe | just wondering who I should bug about this? | 16:17 |
| awe | ( no pun intended ) | 16:17 |
| awe | I'm also gonna shoot an email to rodsmith | 16:17 |
| awe | ( rEFInd maintainer ) | 16:18 |
| cking | awe, yeah, I've got zero know-how with rEFInd | 16:18 |
| awe | I thought you wuz the EFI king? | 16:19 |
| awe | ;) | 16:19 |
| awe | np | 16:19 |
| awe | maybe I'll see what rod has to say, then come back and ask for more help | 16:20 |
| cking | awe, I try to keep away from macs | 16:20 |
| awe | why, cause you love where lennovo is these days? | 16:20 |
| awe | ;/ | 16:20 |
| cking | awe, heh, I'm more into file system and ACPI at the moment | 16:20 |
| awe | I try and stay away from dell ( for obvious reasons ) | 16:20 |
| awe | ( mostly personal ) | 16:20 |
| rtg | awe, I think there was a mishap with a grub update this morning. perhaps cjwatson could elaborate. | 16:20 |
| awe | ah... | 16:20 |
| awe | that sounds like a smoking gun for sure | 16:21 |
| rtg | rbasak noticed it | 16:21 |
| awe | thanks rtg | 16:21 |
| rtg | awe, if you do another update then you ought to get another grub package (if that was indeed your problem) | 16:24 |
| awe | ok | 16:25 |
| rbasak | awe: thank you for the report. Please let us know if this did fix your issue. I wasn't sure how many people were affected, but if it's been picked up this quickly perhaps we should adjust SRU processes to make sure it can't happen again. | 16:31 |
| rbasak | (since at the moment it depends on SRU team members knowing about it) | 16:31 |
| awe | trying now... | 16:32 |
| awe | be right back ( hopefully ) | 16:33 |
| awe | rbasak, so I updated grub to 0.97-29ubuntu66; rebooted and rEFInd still doesn't load.... I need to power up with the Option key pressed in order to trigger EFI Boot | 16:43 |
| apw | awe, that doesn't sounds like a kernel issue though, hmmm | 16:52 |
| awe | apw, rtg mentioned earlier that there was a grub mishap this morning, and rbasak had asked it that cleared it up | 16:54 |
| awe | apw, totally agree it's not a kernel issue | 16:54 |
| awe | just originally thought it might be related | 16:54 |
| rbasak | awe: thanks. I'm not particularly familiar with the signed grub stuff, just that I know that they need to be updated in lockstep. | 16:55 |
| awe | np | 16:55 |
| rbasak | Are we absolutely sure that your failure isn't a consequence of the failure this morning? | 16:55 |
| awe | no idea | 16:56 |
| awe | I applied an update, and didn't pay too much attention to the involved packages, other than there was kernel update included. Things failed on the reboot | 16:56 |
| rbasak | smb: you're probably gone for the day but maybe you can look into this with awe in the morning please? My concern is that we released grub2 to -updates this morning without doing grub2-signed, until cjwatson fixed it later on after I noticed. I'm wondering what impact this might be having on users. | 16:57 |
| smb | rbasak, I am still here... well if you are not careful apt-get dist-upgrade will put the signed part on the "will be removed" list | 16:58 |
| rbasak | smb: ah, so so awe, do you have the package grub-efi-amd64-signed installed still? Or is it removed? | 16:58 |
| smb | update-manager warns about partial upgrade but command line is quite easy to miss | 16:59 |
| awe | nope | 16:59 |
| awe | and there was no error from update-manager | 16:59 |
| rbasak | Nope you have it installed still, or nope it's not there? :) | 16:59 |
| awe | nope it's not there | 16:59 |
| rbasak | Ah, that'll be it. Please install it. | 17:00 |
| awe | k | 17:00 |
| rbasak | Hopefully that'll resolve the problem. | 17:00 |
| awe | so before I pull the trigger, it says it'll install: grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-signed grub2-common | 17:01 |
| awe | and remove: grub | 17:01 |
| awe | is that correct? | 17:01 |
| rbasak | Hmm | 17:01 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure. | 17:01 |
| rbasak | So please don't do it on my account. We're right on the edge of my knowledge, sorry. | 17:01 |
| awe | np | 17:01 |
| smb | at least that seems to be missing on my side | 17:02 |
| smb | grub-common, grub-efi-amd64, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi-amd64-signed, and grub2-common is what is installed here | 17:02 |
| awe | k | 17:02 |
| rbasak | awe: if you look at /var/log/apt/history.log, can you see what was removed this morning? | 17:02 |
| awe | smb, when someone earlier mentioned a mishap with grub | 17:03 |
| awe | I ran an apt-get install grub | 17:03 |
| awe | thinking I was updating something | 17:03 |
| awe | I'll go ahead an apply this | 17:03 |
| rbasak | awe: you should be able to check history.log and figure out exactly what you need to undo from there. | 17:03 |
| awe | k | 17:03 |
| rbasak | You basically want the same set of packages installed that you had yesterday ;) | 17:03 |
| awe | and where do I find history.log? | 17:04 |
| smb | awe, ok, yeah. might be even grub is grub 1 | 17:04 |
| rbasak | /var/log/apt/history.log | 17:04 |
| smb | at least grub-efi-amd64 seems to conflict by purpose with grub | 17:05 |
| smb | hm now... but anyway... I think its ok | 17:06 |
| smb | now/no | 17:06 |
| smb | Oh bah. yes it is. To much text on my terminal for the hour. So grub is grub 0.97... | 17:07 |
| awe | yea, I think I'll be OK after this. lemme try again | 17:08 |
| rbasak | I need to go. | 17:08 |
| awe | thanks for your help rbasak! | 17:08 |
| rbasak | awe: np, sorry for the issues. | 17:08 |
| smb | awe being back might be a good sign | 17:11 |
| awe | nah | 17:11 |
| awe | I think I might need to 're-bless' rEFInd from OS X | 17:11 |
| awe | I'll try and follow up with rodsmith | 17:12 |
| awe | I can boot w/the Option key pressed... and that allows me to start the EFI Boot | 17:12 |
| smb | Ok, unfortunately I would not be of much help with anything that says Mac on it | 17:12 |
| awe | np | 17:12 |
| awe | but something definitely broke, so it'd be nice to find out what, so we can prevent in the future | 17:13 |
| awe | ( or at least understand it ) | 17:13 |
| smb | Yeah, as far as I got it its the signed versions problem (independent package but version depending). So need more care when uploading. | 17:15 |
| smb | Otherwise it requires paying close attention on what the upgrade dialogue tells you | 17:15 |
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