[00:04] <vamsiampolu> http://superuser.com/questions/933146/ubuntu-15-04-not-loading-from-external-hard-drive-for-amd
[00:04] <vamsiampolu> can someone look at this issue PLEASE
[00:06] <vamsiampolu> can anyone help with this http://superuser.com/questions/933146/ubuntu-15-04-not-loading-from-external-hard-drive-for-amd
[00:31] <lucas-arg> guys i cant shutdow my laptop... im on ubuntu 15.04 i do shutdown -h now or poweroff and all it does is reboots.... cant turn in off
[00:32] <lucas-arg> any ideas?
[00:33] <burmph> lucas-arg, The cli your only choice here?
[00:33] <burmph> or a lifestyle?
[00:34] <lucas-arg> ?
[00:35] <khonkhortisan1> sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=noirq quiet splash" ?
[00:35] <burmph> lucas-arg, You have to be specific if you do not understand, cli=terminal lifestyle is self explanatory, some want the termional always.
[00:35] <nicomachus> lucas-arg: he's asking if you're able to shut down by clicking the shut down button.
[00:36] <burmph> nicomachus, Real using terminal commands?
[00:36] <burmph> Really*
[00:36] <lucas-arg> well... i dont know extra data i can give you, my laptop does not shut down, it reboots instead... i try from unity or terminal with sudo shutdown -h now or poweroff and it does not shudown it reboots
[00:36] <burmph> lucas-arg, What happens if you click top right on the shutdown gui?
[00:36] <khonkhortisan1> Is laptop-mode-tools installed?
[00:36] <lucas-arg> nicomachus: i can do that... but thats not the correct way i guess... it does shutdown if i press it long time
[00:37] <lucas-arg> burmph: it reboots... it doesnt shutdown
[00:37] <lucas-arg> instead of powering off... the laptop reboots and comes back to boot
[00:37] <nicomachus> lucas-arg: no the physical button, the button in the top-right of your screen. but you already said it doesn't, burmph just missed that.
[00:37] <nicomachus> s/no/not
[00:38] <lucas-arg> yeah... when i was in 14.04 i had to install laptop-mode-tools to power off my laptop correctly, but here in 15.04 that workarround doesnt work
[00:38] <burmph> nicomachus, Look when I came on.
[00:38] <lucas-arg> ive tried editing grub with acpi=force etc and it does not  do anything
[00:38] <burmph> nothing said about the gui since I've been here
[00:39] <nicomachus> he said "i try from unity or terminal" but let's move on.
[00:40] <burmph> nicomachus, Not clear enough, don't try to explain others, 'm not new here nor a newb.
[00:41] <nicomachus> lol, ok. you should work on your typing though. I'm out. Don't feel like dealing with pompous jerks today.
[00:42] <lucas-arg> would it do anything if i force poweroff? poweroff -f?
[00:44] <teaearlgraycold> Is there a way to blacklist a bad hop if it's giving you packet loss?
[00:45] <daftykins> teaearlgraycold: #networking q that i think :>
[00:45] <teaearlgraycold> Okay
[00:45] <daftykins> likely try another DNS provider to avoid that route
[00:45] <teaearlgraycold> Thanks
[01:11] <lucas-arg> no solution, cant turn my laptop off
[01:11] <lucas-arg> ubuntu took over my laptop
[01:12] <blahdeblah> Hi all - if wernerbu or anyone else who has been experiencing issues with the AWS EC2 mirror in EU West could join #ubuntu-mirrors, that would be appreciated.
[01:13] <burmph> blahdeblah, Mirrors have issues on occasion, you can change it.
[01:14] <blahdeblah> burmph: I work for Canonical, and I'm working on fixing the problem. :-)
[01:14] <teward> burmph: yeeeah, well, Canonical employees tend to care more than others ;)
[01:14] <burmph> blahdeblah, Ah, best of luck. ;)
[01:15] <daftykins> blahdeblah: isn't it amazons responsibility?
[01:15] <blahdeblah> No, we run the mirrors
[01:15] <daftykins> i see
[01:16] <daftykins> guess we can't fob people off to amazon anymore then
[01:19] <moobase> Going to encrypt my ubuntu system. Is a complete reinstall the easiest way?
[01:19] <moobase> I know how to force trim in arch, but how do I do that in ubuntu when dm-crypt is used?
[01:24] <burmph> moobase, I only encrypt a couple of folder, but lvm is popular, it uses dm-crypt I believe, might be more leverage there.
[01:27] <moobase> burmph: you'll have to send some argument to the kernel, that's all. But how do you give the kernel a persistent argument that stays in updates/upgrades in ubuntu?
[01:35] <Griz64> Hey Gang. How can I force reinstall CUPS and all it's dependencies?
[01:36] <daftykins> Griz64: purge and install 'cups'
[01:36] <daftykins> :>
[01:37] <Griz64> daftykins, that's the proscribed 'best method'?
[01:38] <OerHeks> stop cups first
[01:38] <daftykins> well you can look up an alternative online should you wish
[01:38] <daftykins> i'd probably stop X and do it from a TTY too, if desktop
[01:39] <Griz64> what's the best method for stopping X?
[01:39] <daftykins> sudo service lightdm stop
[01:39] <daftykins> (if unity)
[01:40] <Griz64> no. kde.
[01:40] <daftykins> err
[01:40] <daftykins> whatever graphical greeter that one uses then
[01:41] <poz> If I want to make everything read, write and exicutable in folder X in folder Y, what do I put in the terminal and should I be in directory Y or X?
[01:41] <daftykins> poz: what are these files? because that sounds unwise
[01:41] <Griz64> wow. that took the machine to it's knees. :-(
[01:42] <blueingress> Hi, I have dnscrypt-proxy installed in 12.10, but why I can't installed in current version 15?
[01:42] <daftykins> Griz64: er no, it just runs CLI only to perform the task.
[01:42] <daftykins> simples
[01:43] <poz> some installation files. it is fine, I have done it before and it is trust worthy. I just forget how to do it. the main script points to a number of other scripts which are not executable so it will not let me run the main script and I am not sure which one is causing the permission problems
[01:43] <daftykins> well presumably you're running the parent script as root
[01:43] <poz> yes
[01:43] <daftykins> but you'll be better off *being* root as opposed to using sudo
[01:43] <poz> I am root
[01:44] <daftykins> then you want to "chmod +x *" if you're in the folder with them
[01:44] <Griz64> daftykins, hahaha. seems the machine is running fine. but, the only inet connection was via wifi, which died, when X went down. how can i reconnect, at CLI?
[01:44] <Griz64> WPA2 personal, for the encryption
[01:44] <daftykins> wow, KDE sounds like it has a terrible network manager
[01:45] <daftykins> just start the service again and all will be well.
[01:45] <poz> the * recursively goes though each file in the above folder structure and sets executable permissions?
[01:45] <daftykins> poz: no, it hits all files in the current working directory
[01:45] <daftykins> so you'd need to be inside Y
[01:45] <psusi> daftykins, you can be in either folder... if you are in the lower folder, you want to chmod -R a+rwx ., and if you are in the higher folder, you want chmod -R subfolder a+rwx
[01:46] <daftykins> psusi: no because that'll do the parent too, and we're being careful here - not throwing caution to the wind
[01:46] <psusi> I might have gotten the path and permissions backwards there
[01:46] <psusi> check the man page ;)
[01:46] <psusi> ohh, you just want to change the permissions on the files, not the directory they are in?
[01:47] <Griz64> daftykins, kdm is running again, albeit w/o network. isn't there some tool (nmtui) for CLI connections?
[01:47] <daftykins> wow, read the damn query before you second guess next time
[01:47] <psusi> that is to say, both of those examples change the permissions on the *lower* directory to rwx as well for everyone, but not the higher directory
[01:47] <daftykins> Griz64: sorry, one thing i won't be doing today is assisting a CLI wireless connection :)
[01:47] <daftykins> reboot maybe. or if it's a laptop, plug in via wired temporarily
[01:48] <Griz64> daftykins, that difficult in ()buntu?
[01:48] <daftykins> i have never touched KDE to know
[01:48] <psusi> but normally directories need x anyhow, and you rarely want to not give r to d directory, so it only matters if you want to not give w to the directory, which is still rare
[01:48] <poz> lol lower and higher directory is subjective... is root directoer higher or lower?
[01:48] <daftykins> higher.
[01:48] <daftykins> going /down/down/deeper/and/deeper
[01:48] <psusi> root directory is highest by definition
[01:49] <poz> lol ok, then I wanted to give all of the lower directorys and files read, write and executable... I typed in chmod -R +x *
[01:49] <daftykins> nope
[01:49] <poz> yet I still do not get permissions... damn it, I ran into this problem before but I forget how to get around it.
[01:50] <daftykins> alright show us an "ls -al | pastebinit" inside the path
[01:55] <poz> daftykins, I sent it to you in another dialog window
[01:55] <daftykins> indeed
[01:55] <daftykins> oy thats a mess
[01:56] <daftykins> did this come out of a zip or tar?
[01:56] <poz> iso
[01:59] <daftykins> poz: so essentially i think you need to give the folders back execute permissions for group and world
[02:00] <poz> okay
[02:00] <poz> why?
[02:01] <daftykins> 'cause only the user can traverse the folders right now
[02:02] <poz> two more questions, what do you mean by traverse and why does that matter if I am root?
[02:03] <daftykins> enter - and it doesn't hurt to try so why not
[02:03] <poz> well lets try it then, how do I do it?
[02:04] <daftykins> oy.
[02:04] <daftykins> is this a CLI machine or?
[02:05] <poz> I prefer command line
[02:06] <daftykins> i see, so it's forcing others to have you learn :P
[02:06] <daftykins> is this really even the best way to install whatever this is?
[02:06] <poz> it is the only way
[02:07] <poz> I have a gui...
[02:07] <poz> but nothing seems to work well that way
[02:07] <daftykins> what's the program?
[02:07] <daftykins> i mean i'm seeing a windows file in it :>
[02:08] <poz> but I am running ubuntu 14.04
[02:08] <daftykins> !permissions
[02:08] <daftykins> there we go!
[02:09] <daftykins> so folders - rwxr-xr-x aka 755
[02:09] <daftykins> files rwxr--r-- aka 744
[02:20] <poz> I just don't get it though. I went one lever higher in the directory’s and then I went chmod 777 -R *
[02:20] <poz> but it does not yet give me the permissions
[02:21] <NoobsFlyVFR> Hi.
[02:28] <TragicM3LON> if someone can help, for some reason, whenever i try to apt-get anything it sits at 0%
[02:28] <TragicM3LON> but i have a connection
[02:28] <TragicM3LON> so i'm lost
[02:29] <burmph> TragicM3LON, If you have not modified the network access, change the repo.
[02:29] <TragicM3LON> i actually did modify the network
[02:29] <TragicM3LON> to use ipv6
[02:30] <daftykins> heh
[02:30] <daftykins> sounds like you killed it
[02:30] <TragicM3LON> it does
[02:30] <TragicM3LON> lol
[02:30] <TragicM3LON> sec
[02:31] <OerHeks> so you have no connection
[02:31] <TragicM3LON> gonna reboot it
[02:31] <TragicM3LON> no i do
[02:31] <TragicM3LON> i can grab from git and what not
[02:32] <TragicM3LON> lol it's working now
[02:32] <TragicM3LON> reason i added an ipv6 to the net config, was i'm on fiber, and it was using ipv6 and i thought i had to edit the net config to get my server back online outside my network
[02:32] <daftykins> perhaps the mirror didn't have a v6 presence
[02:33] <daftykins> mmm should all be auto
[02:33] <TragicM3LON> ya i didn't know that :(
[02:37] <moobase> is arch for your desktop computer a hassle compared to ubuntu?
[02:38] <daftykins> you might learn a bit but it's essentially for the Linux equivalent of those that modify cars.
[02:38] <nicomachus> good analogy...
[02:38] <daftykins> :D
[02:38] <daftykins> ty
[02:39] <moobase> worth it? :3
[02:40] <daftykins> this is an ubuntu support channel, you may discuss ricing your OS in #linux or perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <daftykins> if you enjoy an OS that breaks all the time, go for it
[02:40] <gordon_> hello, I got problem with how-can-i-help script
[02:40] <gordon_> it shows me that file doesnt exists .cache/how-can-i-help/how-can-i-help.json.gz (Errno::ENOENT)
[02:42] <gordon_> ok, found this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787471
[02:43] <nicomachus> gordon_: did you try the solution there?
[02:43] <gordon_> yes, it's working
[02:43] <daftykins> so...
[02:43] <Sycrux> Could anyone here help me with my monitor setup I'm having issues with please?
[02:44] <daftykins> not until you ask with detail
[02:44] <gordon_> strange that this occurs
[02:44] <nicomachus> gordon_: it's a bug. bugs happen.
[02:45] <Guest48262> saludos...alguien de habla hispana?
[02:45] <daftykins> bit puzzled you came in to say debian's fixed it
[02:45] <daftykins> !es
[02:45] <jakefromstatefar> whatta ya got sycrux
[02:46] <Sycrux> I'm running 3 monitors. 1 connected to a GTX 660 (HDMI) the other 2 are connected DVI to a GTX 460.
[02:47] <Sycrux> Using Ubuntu 15.04
[02:47] <Sycrux> And my issue is, That on fresh install all 3 monitors work perfectly, But when I install a updated Nvidia driver I can only seem to get 2 work at 1 time.
[02:47] <Sycrux> The HDMI will work if the other 2 are disabled and the other 2 will work if the HDMI is disabled.
[02:48] <nicomachus> daftykins, my impression is he found the bug report right after asking the question here. so answered his own question.
[02:48] <jakefromstatefar> go inside the nvidia control panel to set up the monitors
[02:48] <daftykins> so triple head ok on nouveau, bad on proprietary?
[02:49] <daftykins> sounnds like you need to write some monitors configs for xorg
[02:49] <Sycrux> I've tried the CP with Nvidia countless times. But what is odd is that the HDMI monitor will turn on.
[02:49] <Sycrux> But just has a black X cursor.
[02:49] <Guest48262> ok thanks
[02:50] <Sycrux> Yet shows up as disabled under settings and xrandr
[02:50] <Sycrux> When I enable it, Same issue. Stays on and only shows cursor.
[02:51] <lzrspw> Sycrux: Try "sudo nvidia-xconfig --base-mosaic" -- and restart.
[02:51] <lzrspw> Sycrux: Try "sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-logo --base-mosaic" -- and restart.
[02:52] <Sycrux> Okay I'll try that thank you.
[02:54] <poz> daftykins, I was because I had it on a external hard drive. when I move it into my home dir, it works fine.
[02:54] <daftykins> poz: ah, NTFS was it?
[02:54] <daftykins> non POSIX file system = no permissions working
[02:55] <poz> yes
[02:56] <daftykins> oh dear
[02:56] <poz> why not? is there a way around it?
[02:56] <poz> it makes me so mad
[02:56] <daftykins> yeah, don't put data on NTFS volumes
[02:56] <daftykins> really? well get used to it
[02:56] <poz> but that is the only way I can see it with my windows boot
[02:57] <nicomachus> poz: there are some windows applications that will allow you to view your linux directories.
[02:57] <daftykins> so just remember to copy it next time
[02:57] <poz> lol
[02:57] <daftykins> i wouldn't recommend the above
[02:57] <burmph> +1
[02:58] <poz> Why do you say not to put data onto NTFS volumes?
[02:58] <Sycrux> Didn't work. Just disabled 2 monitors now.
[02:59] <BuzzardBuzz> put data on ext4 volumes if you prefer poz
[02:59] <lzrspw> Sycrux: Install arandr. You enabled base-mosaic. Let's see if you can turn them all on.
[03:01] <daftykins> poz: if you expect it to run / permissions to work
[03:01] <daftykins> static data like media is fine
[03:01] <poz> oh okay, I see i see. I understand now
[03:02] <poz> this wont be the last time I will end up banging my head for over an hour and a half trying to figure out why permissions wont work... some day I hope to learn! But I am sure microsoft will learn to use ext4 before that so I guess it does not matter
[03:03] <daftykins> don't count on it
[03:03] <daftykins> and it's not compatible :)
[03:03] <nicomachus> lol
[03:05] <poz> anyways, got to go. thank you for your help!
[03:05] <nicomachus> !pm | Sycrux
[03:08] <Sycrux> should I be blacklisting nouveau?
[03:08] <lzrspw> If you want to use nvidia, yes. Run "lsmod | grep \^n" to see what you're using right now.
[03:10] <Sycrux> nls_iso8859_1 and nvidia
[03:10] <SuperLag> I just inherited the job of administering about 17 Ubuntu machines. 7 are on 14.04, 9 are on 12.04, 1 is on 10.04.
[03:10] <SuperLag> How do I get the 10 and 12s up to 14, and not break everything?
[03:11] <Mouse_> wehre can I get  libtcl8.4.so
[03:11] <SuperLag> and is there a sane way to admin them all, that's easier than all this one-at-a-time stuff?
[03:12] <lzrspw> Sycrux: Check /etc/modprobe.d/ (somewhere). It might be already blacklisted (by nvidia). Can't turn on all monitors with arandr either/
[03:12] <daftykins> clean install supported releases.
[03:12] <lzrspw> Sycrux: ?, not /
[03:12] <SuperLag> daftykins: you'd clean install the others? :/
[03:12] <Bashing-om> SuperLag: My tjouhgt, it is risky to on-line upgrade from 10.04 ( unity), consider a fresh install (??) .
[03:12] <daftykins> the 10.04 for sure
[03:12] <daftykins> what are these things used for?
[03:14] <SuperLag> daftykins: I don't know about the 10 one, but the 12 and 14's are used for neural net training. This is an AI company, and they send their jobs to these machines with two very beefy Nvidia cards in each of them
[03:14] <SuperLag> Never done anything with CUDA, so this is going to be a learning experience
[03:14] <daftykins> doesn't sound like too big a deal
[03:15] <SuperLag> which part?
[03:15] <SuperLag> the keeping stuff current?
[03:15] <daftykins> get a spare disk and use clonezilla to image things up as-is before you try anything
[03:15] <rock> hi all
[03:15] <daftykins> but i think this is beyond the scope of volunteer support channels XD
[03:16] <SuperLag> Totally understood.
[03:17] <Sycrux> I don't see it being blacklisted under blacklist.conf
[03:17] <Sycrux> And no arandr won't work. Only showing 1 monitor the others are grayed out.
[03:18] <Sycrux> Ahh nvm I found it being blacklisted under a different file. My bad.
[03:19] <lzrspw> Sycrux: They're grayed out -- but that mean you can see them though... YOu try right-click and "Active" ?
[03:19] <lzrspw> (And to click "Apply")
[03:20] <Sycrux> No I mean it's only showing 1 monitor. But when I right click into open area, It shows HDMI etc my other monitors. Yet can't enable them.
[03:21] <jwash> i know this is a weird question, is there a program or a way to purposefully waste bandwidth?
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> jwash: i make fake files using dd and then curl them from a httpd to waste bandwidth
[03:22] <jwash> neat
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> just dd /dev/random to a file
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> and wget that file
[03:23] <BuzzardBuzz> iwash: upload torrents of install isos using all your available upload bandwidth
[03:23] <jwash> it has to be from the internet, download
[03:23] <jwash> hmm, i'm just gonna download a bunch of isos for different flavors of ubuntu
[03:23] <jwash> we'll see how AT&T handles it
[03:23] <azizLIGHT> i typically do this to test speeds, but you can make your file size as large as you want and waste as much bandwidth as you want depending on your settings
[03:24] <jakefromstatefar> jwash: whats the purpose?  out of curiosity
[03:24] <jwash> i've been an AT&T unlimited customer for years
[03:24] <azizLIGHT> maybe hes trying to hit the bandwidtch cap
[03:24] <azizLIGHT> and see if he gets throttled
[03:25] <jakefromstatefar> touche
[03:25] <jwash> yea
[03:25] <jwash> no more moderate usage for me
[03:25] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[03:25] <azizLIGHT> you can file fcc complaints about it jwash
[03:25] <jakefromstatefar> whats your goal?
[03:25] <jakefromstatefar> as in bandwidth use
[03:25] <jwash> to get my money's worth
[03:26] <jakefromstatefar> haha
[03:26] <jwash> 10gb+ on cellular
[03:26] <jakefromstatefar> oh thats easy
[03:26] <azizLIGHT> jwash: at&t will start paying attention to you when they see a fcc complaint
[03:26] <jakefromstatefar> just stream espn or something all dayy
[03:26] <jwash> they've already lost against the FTC for the practice
[03:26] <jwash> now i want to see if i'm on a busy cell site
[03:27] <jakefromstatefar> in hd for cellular, that will do about 7-8 gb per day
[03:27] <jwash> i don't pay for video service, on demand is too much effort lol
[03:27] <jwash> i can't stream linear
[03:28] <jwash> otherwise that would be the ticket
[03:28] <jakefromstatefar> you cant stream content like that on your cell network?
[03:29] <jwash> sure you can with TV Everywhere access
[03:29] <jwash> but i don't subscribe to pay TV
[03:29] <lzrspw> TwitchTV?
[03:29] <jwash> there's an idea
[03:29] <jakefromstatefar> youtube UHD?
[03:30] <nicomachus> netflix...?
[03:30] <jwash> too much work
[03:30] <jwash> on demand queuing
[03:30] <jakefromstatefar> prime?
[03:30] <nicomachus> or even popcorn time through a vpn...
[03:30] <jwash> i'm just gonna download nd redownload some isos
[03:30] <jakefromstatefar> have fun :)
[03:30] <nicomachus> don't punish the servers...
[03:31] <nicomachus> at least torrent and seed.
[03:31] <jwash> fine, i'll download some Arch isos
[03:31] <jakefromstatefar> if one guy can punish the servers, then ATT deserves the FTC complaint
[03:31] <Mouse_> can anyone tell me why this is giving me this error the .tcl is there but it is not seeing it
[03:31] <Mouse_>  couldn't read file "scripts/alltools.tcl": no such file or directory     while executing "source scripts/alltools.tcl"
[03:32] <BuzzardBuzz> execute flag set for that Mouse?
[03:32] <Mouse_> hmmm
[03:32] <Mouse_> how do I set that Buzzard?
[03:33] <Mouse_> I am used to debain lol
[03:33] <Mouse_> never set a eggy up on ubuntu
[03:33] <Mouse_> b4
[03:33] <BuzzardBuzz> is it a file that needs superuser or who owns the file you want to change the setting for?
[03:34] <BuzzardBuzz> the lazy way to do it is with a file manager
[03:34] <BuzzardBuzz> and set the properties of the file
[03:34] <Mouse_> name of the file is?
[03:35] <Mouse_> I can open it in Putty too
[03:35] <Mouse_> u mean the .conf file
[03:35] <coraxx> anyone know how to "stretch" a window in ubuntu ?
[03:35] <BuzzardBuzz> depends on what file manager you have, like nautilus, or pcmanfm or how do you browse your files?
[03:36] <Mouse_> I use putty or FileZilla
[03:36] <burmph> use nics foliks
[03:36] <burmph> folks*
[03:37] <BuzzardBuzz> well you can also do terminal command to set the bits for any file
[03:37] <Mouse_> I dunno how to do that
[03:37] <burmph> !who
[03:37] <burmph> just helps is all ;)
[03:37] <BuzzardBuzz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/484718/how-to-make-a-file-executable
[03:38] <Mouse_> oh I saw that in the setup
[03:38] <Mouse_> BuzzardBuzz: sudo chmod a+x /etc/init.d/eggbot
[03:38] <Mouse_> that one
[03:39] <BuzzardBuzz> yes chmod can do it for you also
[03:39] <burmph> BuzzardBuzz, Note the bots message on nics please
[03:39] <Mouse_> ok it asked for pass I put it in
[03:39] <Mouse_> and went back to prompt
[03:39] <BuzzardBuzz> but i prefer to be lazy and check the box
[03:40] <coraxx> burmph: the seem to really ignore you :-(
[03:40] <Mouse_> Buzzard: it keeps telling me the same thing
[03:40] <coraxx> burmph: *they
[03:41] <Mouse_> [23:40] Tcl error in file '/home/bots/simple.conf': [23:40] couldn't read file "scripts/alltools.tcl": no such file or directory     while executing "source scripts/alltools.tcl"     (file "/home/bots/simple.conf" line 146)
[03:41] <burmph> coraxx, Heh, they are in my ignore now.
[03:41] <coraxx> burmph: oh there we go ...a nick appeared ;-)
[03:41] <BuzzardBuzz> Mouse: ok so what does line 146 say?
[03:42] <Mouse_> source scripts/alltools.tcl
[03:42] <coraxx> burmph: Do you btw know how to stretch windows in Ubuntu ...it should be a simple thing but I can't seem to find a solution.  Just need one single window to be stretched ?
[03:42] <Mouse_> oops sorry keep forgetting to put nick at the front lol
[03:43] <BuzzardBuzz> Mouse: your path in line looks like an error inside it
[03:43] <burmph> coraxx, Not sure what you mean, probably can't help.
[03:43] <BuzzardBuzz> Mouse: in line 146
[03:43] <Mouse_> source scripts/alltools.tcl
[03:43] <Mouse_> is line 146
[03:44] <BuzzardBuzz> Mouse: there is your path error in that line
[03:44] <coraxx> burmph: in a window I'm running a terminal-program ...through the wine (windows emulator) ... the text is very small, so I want to use Ubuntu to "stretch" it ...which means when I resize the window, the contents inside is scaled up.
[03:44] <Mouse_> Bussard: or should it say /bots/scripts/
[03:44] <Mouse_> oops
[03:45] <Mouse_> Buzzard sorry
[03:45] <BuzzardBuzz> :)
[03:45] <burmph> coraxx, No going to edge works?
[03:45] <Mouse_> Buzzard: /scripts is where all the scripts are at
[03:45] <BuzzardBuzz> cool
[03:46] <BuzzardBuzz> Mouse: it need to be the coorect path to the file, is all
[03:46] <burmph> coraxx, Sounds like the resize leaves the text the same size?
[03:46] <BuzzardBuzz> *correct
[03:47] <coraxx> burmph: you mean resizing the window ...if so, resizing the window is no problem ... the content inside however remains the same ... so I get a big window with a small content-panel in the upper left corner, and the rest is grey
[03:47] <coraxx> burmph: *content-pane
[03:47] <coraxx> burmph: yes...everything is left the same...including the text.
[03:48] <burmph> coraxx, Ah, better description, not sure, I never use wine, so am not sure the context. There is a #wine channel as well, might be ##wine
[03:48] <coraxx> burmph: I need the magic of compiz or something like that.  its "Enhanced Zoom"-function is for the whole desktop and there not useful for this.
[03:49] <coraxx> burmph: oh, but wine is out ... that I have checked.
[03:49] <burmph> coraxx, my guess is a config somewhere.
[03:50] <coraxx> burmph: (in fact a lot of users have complained about wine, because when they install old games, that uses low-resolution, its difficult/impossible to re-scale ...either in window-mode or fullscreen)
[03:51] <burmph> coraxx, I would never use wine, I have a windows install and I started on open source.
[03:51] <coraxx> burmph: How many (approx.) are actually online (if front of their screens) in this forum right now...do you know ?
[03:51] <burmph> a vm would be better
[03:52] <burmph> coraxx, No idea, we have regular helpers however.
[03:53] <burmph> 1717 users shown, most lurking
[03:53] <coraxx> burmph: I use VirtualBox for many things ...especially Windows-applications ...however this one is special...I wont even run fully in Windows (geeh microsoft, take that) ... the managing of LPT-ports in Windows 7 and newer....
[03:53] <coraxx> burmph: ...makes it impossible to run the older terminal-software from the 1990's
[03:55] <coraxx> burmph: * I = It
[03:56] <burmph> coraxx, Best of luck nothing I an really add. ;)
[03:56] <burmph> CAN*
[03:57] <coraxx> burmph: no worries ...and thx :-)
[03:57] <burmph> no prb
[03:59] <wagtag> I've been getting seemingly randomly spaced kernel panics after upgrading from 14.10 to 14.10 while my computer is idle. Screen freezes and I can't ssh in. Any tips on figuring out what the case is? Haven't found anything useful yet in the logs
[03:59] <wagtag> *15.10
[03:59] <burmph> !15.10 | wagle
[04:00] <wagle> burmph: say what?  8)
[04:00] <burmph> wagle, You sure it's not 15.04?
[04:00] <wagtag> Sorry i meant 15.04
[04:00] <wagle> oic
[04:02] <burmph> wagle, Close got the first 3 letters right, sorry about that.
[04:03] <wagle> just checking to see if you needed to correct
[04:03] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know if the new kernel 3.19.0-22-generic has a work around for the async trim problem with Samsung 850 SSDs?
[04:04] <burmph> wagtag, I would run the guest account and see if it happens there, as a start, maybe do a memory check.
[04:08] <wagtag> burmph: Thanks. I'll try that. Hopefully it isn't a hardware issue
[04:09] <wagtag> It usually takes 15-19 hours to lock up
[04:15] <kmldc> hi everyone, I am kind of stressed out, I installed lightdm package and when it was installing it turned out to be messing with my kernel and stuff, and when I try uninstalling it using either purge or remove it says that due to dependencies I am not allowed to do that...
[04:15] <kmldc> Plsu I seem to be not getting latest kernel versions
[04:17] <BuzzardBuzz> you can get lightdm installed as part of the installer iso, kmldc
[04:18] <burmph> kmldc, What release is this and the kernel?
[04:18] <mostafa> hi every one
[04:19] <mostafa> hi any one
[04:20] <kmldc> burmph
[04:20] <kmldc> : unsame -a ???
[04:20] <kmldc> *uname
[04:20] <BuzzardBuzz> There are ubuntu varients with LXDE pre-installed, then they contain lightdm ready to run, kmldc
[04:20] <kmldc> Linux stationT 3.16.0-41-generic #57~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 18 18:01:50 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:20] <burmph> uname -a kmldc
[04:20] <kmldc> ^
[04:21] <mostafa> mostafa
[04:21] <burmph> kmldc, What release
[04:21] <kmldc> 14.04.2
[04:22] <burmph> kmldc, What makes you think this is not the latest kernel for the release?
[04:22] <burmph> your in the stack
[04:23] <kmldc> Cause I have ubuntu on almost any device at home, and last night many of them were updated to a new linux image thingie, but not my stationT machine
[04:23] <kmldc> what do you mean in the stack??
[04:24] <burmph> kmldc, All using the same server and upgraded the same, say with a dist-upgrade? two questions here
[04:24] <burmph> !stack
[04:24] <kmldc> burmph : yes used dist-upgrade a hundred times almost
[04:24] <kmldc> let me do it again
[04:25] <burmph> kmldc, All these computers calling the same repo exactly?
[04:25] <burmph> kmldc, stack https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[04:25] <kmldc> yes, either the main server or the server from the US
[04:25] <burmph> kmldc, Tons of us servers
[04:26] <burmph> US*
[04:26] <kmldc> the main server for the US I meant
[04:26] <kmldc> I am from Iran though
[04:26] <burmph> kmldc, REad the stack info as it explains the ltl release schedule and kernels included.
[04:28] <burmph> kmldc, I have a great book by a local author whom grew apples there for years, gives beautiful pictures of the great people and culture.
[04:29] <roombaroomba> Hello everyone!
[04:29] <kmldc> burmph : good to know... is it safe to run :
[04:29] <kmldc> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty
[04:29] <kmldc> ?
[04:29] <kmldc> on my current 14.04.2 machine?
[04:30] <kmldc> roombaroomba : good day roomba
[04:30] <burmph> kmldc, I would not upgrade the stack, but use the info to understand if relevant to different kernel sets, has  to do if the same OS and when installed.
[04:31] <roombaroomba> I'm running OSX Yosemite, and having problems ejecting the external HDD. I can unmount the drive, but I've tried ejecting it via the terminal using Disk Utility, but it can't eject. It always says that the disk has been successfully ejected, but still shows up. Advice please?
[04:31] <burmph> roombaroomba, Apple? This is ubuntu support.
[04:33] <DarthFrog> roombaroomba:  Install Linux on it.
[04:33] <burmph> kmldc, This is the reason why you wont upgrade the stack, "The 14.04.2 and newer point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default. If you have installed with older media you can use the following to install the newer kernel from 14.10 (Utopic): "  you installed 14.04
[04:33] <burmph> 14.0.2*
[04:34] <roombaroomba> Yeah, I know. I'm running a dual boot system with Ubuntu installed, and besides, I don't know any active IRC Apple channels.
[04:34] <burmph> roombaroomba, ubuntu support is all.
[04:35] <roombaroomba> Figured someone here would be knowledgeable enough to help me out, or at least point me in the right direction. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[04:35] <burmph> roombaroomba, you should check the bot there is a mac channel and others I believe quite busy.
[04:35] <kmldc> burmph: yes I have 14.04.2 installed on this machine, but running "uname -a" says 13.16 is my kernel version, is this normal?
[04:35] <kmldc> the damn lightdm thingie messed the system up
[04:36] <burmph> kmldc, What kernel are you expecting?
[04:36] <kmldc> is there no way to get it uninstalled and revert my system to my normal nice ubuntu??
[04:36] <roombaroomba> All right, thanks burmph!
[04:36] <kmldc> burmph : a kernel that would not start my desktop with a lot of errors to report?
[04:37] <burmph> kmldc, Ah, nice theory. ;) YOU must of had gdm just activate it. I have not seen any issue as you describe, but none of us kn ow everything.
[04:39] <burmph> kmldc, I have the feeling there is more to this than I can really ferret out nor fix, others may have ideas, sorry.
[04:39] <kmldc> proceeding to switch from lightdm to gdm, thank you nice burmph
[04:40] <burmph> kmldc, That nay get you back, hope so.
[04:40] <burmph> may*
[04:40] <kmldc> burmph : you mean it is possible that I might get lost in a dark world again??
[04:40] <kmldc> (please don't say no)
[04:40] <burmph> kmldc, Heh, oh never. ;)
[04:40] <kmldc> I mean please say no
[04:41] <burmph> if you do you will see me there
[04:41] <kmldc> burmph : good to know that you would be here, so am I hitting that install button for gdm my man?
[04:42] <kmldc> proceed?
[04:42] <burmph> kmldc, I was assuming it was installed. Never had an issue here with one or the other so not really sure, that is your call.
[04:43] <kmldc> ok...
[04:43] <kmldc> going for it either way
[04:43] <kmldc> could have fun messing with this part of linux anyways
[04:43] <burmph> ldm or gdm can be chosen from a terminal if installed than a reboot at some point.
[04:45] <Gerowen> Anybody know why, upon reinstalling Ubuntu 14.04, indicator-cpufreq no longer functions properly?  On this same laptop I could set it to Performance, On Demand, Or Power Savers, as well as pick from a long list of specific clock speeds, and it seemed to work.  After experimenting with Windows and doing a clean Ubuntu install, I now only get "On Demand" and "Performance" and switching between the two doesn't seem to actually do anything.
[04:45] <burmph> kmldc, THis might help http://itsfoss.com/switch-gdm-and-lightdm-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[05:08] <Ullarah> Has anybody swapped out systemd with sysvinit on ubuntu 15.04 without any fault?
[05:10] <smpL> hello
[05:11] <ubuntuser13> smpL: hi
[05:13] <sirellyn> I can't seem to get this shell script to execute
[05:14] <sirellyn> even though it has executable rights
[05:14] <sirellyn> and I use SUDO
[05:14] <sirellyn> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:15] <khonkhortisan> sudo su, cd path, ./name.sh?
[05:15] <smpL> chomd +x
[05:16] <sirellyn> I'll try it again one sec
[05:19] <sirellyn> bash: ./LaunchAutoMouseClick: Permission denied
[05:20] <sirellyn> -rwxrwxr-x 1 user user     64 Sep 10  2012 LaunchAutoMouseClick
[05:21] <sirellyn> I don't know what else it could be.  The drive allows things to be executed.
[05:21] <smpL> chown
[05:21] <ubuntuser13> sirellyn: add the line #!/bin/sh to top of script. and use sudo chmod +x to make it executable.
[05:21] <sirellyn> ok let me try that.
[05:27] <smpL_> anyone know a googd way to access google play music from terminal?
[05:28] <codebeast> Guys . Could some one clearly say about how to expand root partition ? . I tried using Live CD and ran gparted . But i couldn't expand it
[05:30] <burmph> codebeast, Is there unallocated space to expand to?
[05:30] <codebeast> Yeah . 40gb unallocated space
[05:30] <codebeast> burmph : ^
[05:31] <burmph> codebeast, No say extended in the way that is empty next to the root?
[05:31] <burmph> codebeast, Can you post an image of gparted looking at it?
[05:31] <codebeast> burmph : its not
[05:32] <hazza> yoyoy
[05:32] <hazza> hello?
[05:32] <wmorri> hazza: hi
[05:32] <hazza> yo
[05:32] <codebeast> Some one said . The swap needs to be unlocked before this space can be moved . But i tried it . Doesn't seems to work out
[05:33] <hazza> well then...........
[05:33] <wmorri> hazza: how can we help you?
[05:34] <hazza> nothing i just downloaded this random app from ubuntu to see what it was all about
[05:34] <hazza> soz
[05:34] <hazza> lol
[05:34] <smpL_> oh yea, what app hazza
[05:36] <Ben64> codebeast: post an image from gparted
[05:37] <codebeast> Ben64 : burmph http://imgur.com/76wfv8O
[05:38] <burmph> Ben64, partitions out of numerical and uefi, all yours. ;)
[05:39] <codebeast> Ben64 , burmph this is not from live
[05:39] <codebeast> CD
[05:40] <Ben64> wow thats a lot of stuff going on
[05:40] <burmph> codebeast, Figured as such lots of mounted partitions. I'm not up on whats there is all.
[05:41] <OerHeks> good luck moving that 40 gb to ext4 sda9
[05:41] <codebeast> Its a dual boot . Win 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04
[05:42] <codebeast> OerHeks : How to do that ?
[05:43] <dmnlc> folks that http://itsfoss.com/switch-gdm-and-lightdm-in-ubuntu-14-04/ link worked perfectly
[05:43] <dmnlc> everything is awesomely running
[05:44] <burmph> dmnlc, Cool, would love to visit someday> ;)
[05:44] <dmnlc> Iran? you mean?
[05:45] <dmnlc> I would love to see YOU mate
[05:45] <burmph> dmnlc, Yeah.
[05:45] <codebeast> Ben64 : Can u help me out ?
[05:45] <OerHeks> codebeast, i don't seee how, as there are too many partitions in between. my advise: backup data, reinstall windows & ubuntu.
[05:45] <dmnlc> it is usually safe for foreigners m8
[05:46] <dmnlc> I am sure you would have a memorable time in Isfehan
[05:46] <codebeast> OerHeks Oh man ! I dont have an external HDD to back up ! This is gonna be shit !
[05:47] <burmph> dmnlc, One of the most modern places in that part of the world, many just get the stereotyped news of other areas that is negative, which is a shame.
[05:48] <dmnlc> burmph :  I know what you mean, I myself it wouldn't have been the way it is, I personally wish the whole world would have been better
[05:48] <dmnlc> but again, it is probably still the best times yet
[05:48] <dmnlc> could have been worse
[05:49] <codebeast> OerHeks : How to remove custom kernels ? I have installed 2 kernels which i myself built from source . But don't know how to remove it . Any way u could help ?
[05:49] <burmph> nice talking I am on the way to a short job check in, take it easy dmnlc ;)
[05:49] <dmnlc> you too m8, you are the best
[05:50] <dmnlc> good luck with your job thingie even though I don't know what that is
[05:55] <OerHeks> codebeast, howto remove stock kernels, i know, not self build ones, i hope you build uninstall too
[05:56] <codebeast> I know about stock kernels . Dont know how to remove custom kernels
[05:59] <moobase> hi. going to reinstall ubuntu to have full disk encryption. But I need to force trim of my SSD disk by sending the kernel a parameter. How's that done persistently in ubuntu? I want it to persist in updates/upgrades.
[06:00] <moobase> it seems way easier to use arch linux for this. But I like the automated of ubuntu that you can't have in arch.
[06:00] <OerHeks> !trim
[06:01] <moobase> for example, updates are done automatically and smoothly in ubuntu.
[06:01] <moobase> OerHeks: it does not when you use dm-crypt
[06:01] <moobase> you'll have to send an argument to the kernel
[06:02] <OerHeks> LVM & LUKS is no problem, afaik
[06:05] <moobase> it isn't. But trimming is. It's disabled by default for encrypted devices, even if you have the discard flag in fstab. A main developer of dm-crypt has stated in a mailing list that she'll never enable --allow-discard by default for security reasons.
[06:07] <dtraveler> Hi, can someone please help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2285628
[06:07] <dtraveler> or any clues on which could be wrong. Thanks in advance.
[06:09] <sirellyn> I still can't get that file to execute.  the filename is green, and I can't tab to autocomplete it either
[06:09] <sirellyn> -rwxrwxr-x 1 user user     74 Jul  7 23:25 LaunchAutoMouseClick
[06:09] <sirellyn> As you can see it's got the proper rights.
[06:09] <sirellyn> And I am user
[06:10] <dtraveler> sirellyn: How are you executing it?
[06:10] <dtraveler> I mean, can you paste the command?
[06:11] <sirellyn> I've tried ./LaunchAutoMouseClick
[06:11] <sirellyn> and sudo
[06:11] <sirellyn> sure
[06:11] <sirellyn> ./AutoMouseClick bash: ./AutoMouseClick: Permission denied
[06:12] <sirellyn> bash is on the second line
[06:12] <dtraveler> That LaunchAutoMouseClick calls another script AutoMouseClick ?
[06:12] <sirellyn> sudo ./AutoMouseClick
[06:12] <sirellyn> also doesn't work
[06:12] <sirellyn> yes, but the script it calls also doesn't execute.  Same problem
[06:13] <sirellyn> is there any time when autocomplete doesn't work in a command line?
[06:13] <dtraveler> did the AutoMouseClick is executable?
[06:13] <sirellyn> like autocomplete works for the text file
[06:13] <sirellyn> but not for these filse
[06:13] <sirellyn> -rwxrwxr-x 1 user user     74 Jul  7 23:25 LaunchAutoMouseClick
[06:13] <sirellyn> it's marked X
[06:14] <sirellyn> The partition is also marked to allow executables
[06:14] <dtraveler> I mean, did the AutoMouseClick is executable?
[06:14] <sirellyn> it's a script file
[06:14] <sirellyn> #!/bin/shexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:./libs
[06:14] <sirellyn> ./AutoMouseClick
[06:15] <sirellyn> that's all it has in it
[06:15] <sirellyn> minus the CR's
[06:15] <sirellyn> #!/bin/sh
[06:15] <sirellyn> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:./libs
[06:15] <sirellyn> ./AutoMouseClick
[06:15] <dtraveler> where is this AutoMouseClick file? in the same directory?
[06:15] <sirellyn> yes
[06:15] <sirellyn> same directory
[06:16] <dtraveler> ls -lrt  AutoMouseClick ?
[06:16] <hateball> You could try changing sh to bash
[06:16] <sirellyn> -rwxr-xr-x 1 user user 268997 Jun 10  2013 AutoMouseClick
[06:17] <sirellyn> tried changing sh to bash.  Same error.   Permission Deniedd
[06:18] <dtraveler> So, the all commands in the AutoMouseClick can be executed?
[06:19] <sirellyn> not the last one.
[06:19] <sirellyn> similar problem for another file called...
[06:19] <viktorparovoz> Hi guys!
[06:20] <sirellyn> sorry the AutoMouseClick was the final file that LaunchAutoMouseClick was calling
[06:20] <dtraveler> ok. can you paste the content of AutoMouseClick? or tell use what it is doing.
[06:20] <dtraveler> use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <sirellyn> AutoMouseClick looks like a binary file.
[06:21] <dtraveler> ok
[06:21] <sirellyn> http://www.murguu.com/
[06:21] <sirellyn> download the 64 bit version
[06:21] <sirellyn> that's basically it right there.
[06:22] <sirellyn> http://www.murguu.com/linux-auto-mouse-click/download/64-bit/LinuxAutoMouseClick64Bit.zip
[06:22] <dtraveler> sirellyn did you try executing the script with -x ?
[06:22] <sirellyn> I already ensured it's chmod'd if that's what you mean
[06:23] <sirellyn> -rwxrwxr-x 1 user user     76 Jul  8 00:20 LaunchAutoMouseClick
[06:23] <dtraveler> replace  "#!/bin/sh" with "#!/bin/sh -x"
[06:23] <sirellyn> ahh ok one sec
[06:24] <sirellyn> same error.   :-(
[06:25] <sirellyn> sudo: unable to execute ./AutoMouseClick: Permission denied
[06:25] <tytel> hello, can i get some help building with launchpad here?
[06:26] <tytel> i have a ppa that works fine when i build it on my machine, but when i build it on the ubuntu servers, sometimes the build gives me "Illegal instruction (core dumped)"
[06:26] <tytel> anyone know what could cause that?
[06:27] <l0p3n> tytel: I suggest #launchpad if you don't get any answers here
[06:27] <tytel> l0p3n: thanks
[06:28] <Kartagis> hi. both on my laptop and on my desktop I have the same 40gib mp3 archive. I'm using the same application (clementine) on both. while it takes ages to search on my desktop, I can instantly search on my laptop. I mentioned this the other day and I was suggested to compare HDD speeds with hdparm. here are the results: http://paste.debian.net/280050/ am I reading this right? desktop HDD seems to be f
[06:28] <Kartagis> aster
[06:44] <opiwahn> where would I have to place an initram-script if I want to have it executed as early as possible: http://snag.gy/KCkcM.jpg
[06:48] <Bitwise> Hey guys! I'm using inotifywait pretty much with this script except $path and $file have spaces in the name. http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/24955
[06:48] <pkull> Hey there! I have a question regarding database dumps. I do pg_dump -h xx.xxx.xx.xx -Fc -o -U postgres ac > ac.sql and I am asked for password. But the passwords which I have tried to enter have failed. How can I find out what's the correct password?
[06:48] <Linuxlite> hello
[06:48] <moobase> is SSD without TRIM really that awful? Doing a FDE but only need to protect my data from gangsta-thungs who'd steal your computer because he's a loser. Won't hurt you that bad performance wise?
[06:49] <Linuxlite> i was wondering how i can run AOE 1 and 2 on ubuntu?
[06:49] <hateball> moobase: I can't say I notice any real life performance hits from not running TRIM (had to disable it due to shitty samsung firmware updates)
[06:50] <moobase> hateball: but it maximizes the lifetime of the disk though?
[06:50] <hateball> moobase: I suppose it does
[06:52] <vis> how to use alt code for kruti dev hindi font in ubuntu 14.04
[06:53] <hateball> moobase: I feel I am more likely to replace it due to performance/size before death of cells, so I am not very bothered personally. But yeah, you should run it if you can
[06:54] <vis> how to use alt code for kruti dev hindi font in ubuntu 14.04
[06:56] <Kartagis> hi. both on my laptop and on my desktop I have the same 40gib mp3 archive. I'm using the same application (clementine) on both. while it takes ages to search on my desktop, I can instantly search on my laptop. I mentioned this the other day and I was suggested to compare HDD speeds with hdparm. here are the results: http://paste.debian.net/280050/ am I reading this right? desktop HDD seems to be f
[06:56] <Kartagis> aster
[06:57] <waa> hi, gnome doesnt recognize my sound card (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)). could this be a pulse issue?
[06:59] <waa> aplay says "aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found..." - lspci -k also shows no kernel driver
[06:59] <waa> which would be the right one?
[07:01] <waa> # modprobe -v snd-hda-intel -> modprobe: FATAL: Module snd-hda-intel not found.
[07:09] <waa> ok, with apt-file i found out, that I need linux-image-extra-virtual instead of linux-image-virtual
[07:13] <kokut> Hello, for some reason if i connect the ethernet cable before my notebook has finished booting up, it disables my ethernet controller, is there any way to fix this?
[07:14] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[07:14] <Mava> what on earth. just got new machine with 4k television: did edit the 10-monitor.conf to apply 3840x2160 with 30hz to DP-0 and with xrandr it shows the resolution only for DVI-I-0 port o.0
[07:15] <Mava> so what is the "right way" to get nvidia k600 to do 3840 resolution through DP-0 port ?
[07:15] <burmph> kokut, So the only way the ether net works is when plugged in to a booted computer?
[07:16] <kokut> burmph: in this notebook yes, this doesnt happen in other computers
[07:17] <burmph> kokut, So if you rebooted it when working it comes up not? Cold boot plugged in first does not work?
[07:17] <kokut> if i plug the ethernet cable before it has finished booting the NIC is disabled, and i can only connect via WIFI
[07:18] <kokut> i can reboot a thousand times, if the ethernet cable is connected i wont have a wired connection
[07:18] <burmph> kokut, This phrase is really vague, "i plug the ethernet cable before it has finished booting"
[07:18] <kokut> booting to the ubuntu desktop
[07:18] <kokut> finished loading ubuntu or w/e u want to call it
[07:19] <kokut> doesnt happen in windows (dual boot)
[07:19] <kokut> freaking annoying man
[07:19] <kokut> every day i come to work i have to remember to not plug the freakign cable or i have to reboot
[07:19] <burmph> kokut, Not sure myself,  needed to clarify is all.
[07:20] <Mava> seems the issue is displayport with 30hz...damn these new features that are done poorly
[07:23] <Mava> buahaha, neat - DP-0 max resolution 1920x1080 and DVI-I.= max 3840x2160. only but here is the fact that the 4k monitor is connected to the DP-0...
[07:42] <waa> How can I tell mplayer to use another device? [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1293:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' failed (-2): No such file or directory - my device is called /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
[07:42] <fishcooker> is there any pxe install on linux.. what is the ubuntu name it?
[08:08] <vivek_> hello
[08:08] <vivek_> Using this for the first time
[08:08] <drmagoo> fishcooker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[08:09] <drmagoo> Mava: what version is the DP? it needs to be version 1.4 to support 4k output
[08:09] <agent_white> DP? It's only gay if the balls touch.
[08:10] <drmagoo> agent_white: well in this case DP stands for DisplayPort ;)
[08:10] <agent_white> drmagoo: Aye, I was just making a funny! :D
[08:11] <drmagoo> agent_white: got that ;)
[08:11] <drmagoo> agent_white: not sure if everyone else did thou
[08:11] <Johnny_Linux> its a family channel, take that garbage elsewhere
[08:12] <agent_white> drmagoo: Yeah I'm more surprised I'm not banzored... lets... uh... *cough* move along now!
[08:12] <burmph> your funny is offensive to ohers
[08:12] <burmph> others*
[08:12] <agent_white> Yeah yeah we all know.
[08:12] <burmph> low functioning
[08:13]  * agent_white shrugs
[08:14] <Johnny_Linux> smart mouth punks like you always have to have the last word. grow up already.
[08:15] <agent_white> Johnny_Linux: Continuing this discussion shows who the real 'smart mouth punk' is. Quit it.
[08:15] <agent_white> Or move it to offtopic to discuss.
[08:15] <godofgrunts> > messing with my .bashrc
[08:15] <godofgrunts> > look over to irc
[08:16] <godofgrunts> > kids fighting for no reason
[08:16] <godofgrunts> > goes back to .bashrc
[08:16]  * agent_white requotes himself... 'Move along now... move along...'
[08:16] <Mava> drmagoo: howto check the version ?
[08:18] <godofgrunts> Mava: version of
[08:18] <godofgrunts> Embedded image permalink
[08:18] <godofgrunts> Mava: version of what?*
[08:18] <Mava> godofgrunts: version of the Displayport in macine
[08:19] <Mava> perhaps a quick google will help me a bit
[08:19] <godofgrunts> ? like what your graphics card is?
[08:19] <Mava> k600 quadro nvidia =D
[08:20] <Mava> godofgrunts: the catch is that i'm trying to setup 4k resolution to the tv connected to the displayport
[08:20] <Mava> now it is more like a penguing vs. mava
[08:21] <Mava> but this is weird, it shows that the card has displayport 1.2 connector that supports max 3840x2160@60Hz
[08:22] <starkiller> hello
[08:22] <agent_white> Mava: What are you using to attempt this? -- What are you using to see that that resolution is available? xrandr?
[08:22] <godofgrunts> Mava: that's technically 4k so what's the issue?
[08:22] <agent_white> Mava: (I use xrandr for my dual-screen setups, as well as when I plug my laptop into a external 'big' TV and adjust the resolution that way.
[08:23] <agent_white> After connecting the HDMI cord from the machine to the TV, `xrandr --query` should give you the available resolutions and you can go from there... if that's what you're aiming to do.
[08:26] <agent_white> See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution for more info.
[08:26] <godofgrunts> exit
[08:36] <j4ysee> exit
[08:45] <Mava> agent_white: xrandr directly also checked it using  nvidia-settings
[08:46] <Mava> the issues is that i cannot set the resolution to 4k since there is no such resolution even available
[08:46] <EriC^^> Mava: maybe you need to install another graphics driver
[08:46] <EriC^^> Mava: type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:47] <Mava> EriC^^: than nvidia-346 ?
[08:47] <drmagoo> Mava: it is displayport v1.2 and I was wrong. v1.2 supports 4k @ 30hz, so It should work.
[08:48] <EriC^^> Mava: who knows
[08:49] <Mava> drmagoo: that was good news =)
[08:49] <Mava> though believe me or not
[08:50] <Mava> the inbuilt intel hd4400 (etc) was able to bring up the 4k resolution with my setup, so lets see the nvidia case
[08:50] <Mava> EriC^^: in a minute..
[08:52] <Mava> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11840383/
[08:52] <Mava> that looks quite an intresting list, don't know wheter i've messed up with something already
[08:53] <kokut> Hi, anyone knows how to disable a character form the keyboard? thre is one i never use in a pretty unconvenient place and id like to get rid of it.
[08:55] <jatt> remove the key from the keyboard
[08:56] <Mava> EriC^^: though this looks pretty unpromising: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/674201/not-able-to-set-4k-resolution-3840x2160-on-lg-65-quot-uhd-tv/
[08:56] <hateball> kokut: This has some info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842970
[08:57] <starkiller> is ubuntu better than xubuntu?
[08:58] <jatt> nope
[08:58] <jatt> xubuntu is definitely better
[08:58] <starkiller> i been with xubuntu for 4 years but ubuntu looks prettier lol so i been thingkling of trying it:P
[08:59] <jatt> stay with xubuntu
[09:00] <starkiller> yea i dont even miss windows 7 lol i have it on a dual boot but never use it
[09:00] <IsThisNickFree> ...they're basically the same thing just diff default apps, maybe a diff compositor and theme?
[09:01] <IsThisNickFree> with source2 out with native *nix support I no longer dual boot win  :3
[09:02] <starkiller> i just use windows to play starcraft 1 and 2 :P
[09:02] <Mava> starkiller: starcraft! \o/
[09:03] <starkiller> i cant let go of that game :P
[09:04] <kokut> ty hateball, ill take a look at that
[09:05] <starkiller> i love starcraft so much i tried my bro and gf to get into it:P
[09:06] <starkiller> but my gf got so upset when i destoyed her base and never try it again:P
[09:07] <starkiller> she was like i work so hard on my little town and base and u just killed me :P
[09:07] <jatt> starcraft is old brah
[09:08] <bender_> hi all
[09:08] <j4ys33> Hello
[09:08] <starkiller> lol bender is mexican :P
[09:08] <bender_> born in Tijuana
[09:09] <starkiller> lol
[09:09] <bender_> with a bottle of beer
[09:10] <starkiller> i wonder what OS bender uses:P
[09:25] <killall> my ubuntu does not show the login screen
[09:25] <killall> stat
[09:25] <killall> my ubuntu does not show the login screen , it stays black, altought im in via ssh
[09:28] <saadin> hi, i recently upgraded 14.04 to 14.10 then to 15.04, after upgrading to 14.10 desktop stays blank but filemanager on desktop works, also every window or popup leaves an impression on desktop, upgrading to 15.04 didnt fix it, any idea how to fix it?
[09:28] <fabio> Hello. How do i get PID (producit id) and VID ( vendor id ) from a com port?
[09:28] <fabio> * connected device to a com port
[09:30] <jatt> saadin: look for errors in /var/log/Xorg.*.log*, and also disable compiz if you have enabled it to check if that's the culprit
[09:40] <saadin> jatt: the only error i see in Xorg log is this:
[09:40] <saadin> (EE) NOUVEAU(0): [COPY] failed to allocate class.
[09:42] <trijntje> saadin: looks like a problem I had as well
[09:43] <trijntje> your best bet is to try to install some other drivers for your video card, either a later version of nouveau or one of the non-free drivers
[09:45] <saadin> trijntje: nouveau is already updated to the latest version, i'll try installing nvidia driver
[09:47] <phpNoob> So how the hell do i open a txt file to see it's contents in ubuntu if i SSH in it (12.04)
[09:47] <phpNoob> I'm using vagrant
[09:47] <phpNoob> its*
[09:47] <jatt> saadin: if you have (EE)s in your logs it might be an issue with your drivers
[09:48] <hhhhhhhh> I'm getting "E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.13.0-55.94_amd64.deb  404  Not Found" when i apt-get update and install
[09:48] <jatt> hhhhhhhh: that url is down
[09:48] <hhhhhhhh> do i just need to wait
[09:49] <jatt> try a mirror?
[09:49] <hateball> phpNoob: nano
[09:49] <phpNoob> thanks
[09:52] <Aether_knight> H
[09:52] <Aether_knight> Hi
[09:53] <Aether_knight> I have question. what is bamf?
[09:54] <Aether_knight> I think Bamfd
[09:54] <drmagoo> phpNoob: use nano, nano -w 'file'
[09:54] <phpNoob> Thanks
[10:01] <jeeves_moss> how do I join a Ubuntu system to a domain?
[10:10] <nabdev> hey , boot repair have more then oen hour to fix problem boot ,is it normal ?
[10:13] <jeeves_moss> nabdev, depends on the disks, system, and how much crap is there.
[10:13] <jeeves_moss> it's going to look through the file systems to find images
[10:13] <alvin1> hello
[10:13] <jeeves_moss> hola
[10:13] <jeeves_moss> Bonjour
[10:19] <nabdev> jeeves_moss>  may be i have some problem with my disks :/, system ubuntu 14.04.1 with Lenovo z580 as laptop , i use usb boot to do it this repair and he take more then hour it is hard
[10:22] <Guest46182> i have the following upstart script in `/etc/init` for my ubuntu - https://bpaste.net/show/d748d3641120.  The script will run manually, but will not run automatically on system boot up (or reboot).  Could someone assist me?
[10:22] <Guest46182> did i correctly implement the `start on`, and `stop on`?
[10:22] <Guest46182> also, when i shutdown the machine, it doesn't execute `pre-stop script`.
[10:35] <bhuey> Are the update servers down ?
[10:35] <k1l_> bhuey: nope.
[10:35] <bhuey> ISP issue maybe ?
[10:36] <k1l_> bhuey: can you show the output of "sudo apt update" in a pastebin?
[10:36] <rory> When I press alt-backspace in Terminator (using zsh) it deletes a word. But when I press alt-delete, it prints "3~"
[10:36] <rory> Is there a way to get it to delete a word forwards?
[10:38] <bhuey> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/qLPYg0ci
[10:38] <bhuey> freezes there
[10:39] <rory> bhuey: can you try this solution http://askubuntu.com/a/354886
[10:39] <jeeves_moss> Bhaal, you don't have IPv6 connectivity.
[10:39] <rory> bhuey: sudo gedit /etc/gai.conf
[10:39] <jeeves_moss> you can resolve, but not connect
[10:39] <k1l_> bhuey: using a proxy or some sort of connection firewall?
[10:39] <bhuey> no
[10:39] <jeeves_moss> bhuey, try this command and pastebin the output.   "ping6 mail.moseley.ca"
[10:40] <jeeves_moss> you should get 2001:470:1d:bb6:192:158:13:150
[10:40] <bhuey> jeeves_moss: resolves but nothing comes back
[10:40] <bhuey> k1l_: direct connection to the Internet
[10:40] <jeeves_moss> yep, your DNS server is doing a 6to4 conversion to get the 6DNS, but you don't have connectivity.
[10:40] <bhuey> AT&T
[10:40] <jeeves_moss> lol!!!
[10:41] <jeeves_moss> most large players suck.  they don't want to dual stack their networks.  it's a LOT of work
[10:41] <bhuey> Am I screwed ?
[10:41] <jeeves_moss> nope, just disable IPv6
[10:42] <jeeves_moss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently
[10:42] <xJeremyCx> guys, I want to set up a web proxy server in my ubuntu. How can I do that
[10:42] <bhuey> jeeves_moss: ok
[10:43] <jeeves_moss> bhuey, default is to pull IPv6 (ubuntu is trying to force migrate), and your DNS server is doing the 6to4 and 4to6 conversion.  it's just making a mess.
[10:44] <jeeves_moss> bhuey, if you had a Cisco router, you could set up a tunnel to huricaine electric
[10:44] <xJeremyCx> http://free-proxyserver.com/ <- I want to have something silimar to this
[10:44] <bhuey> don't I wish
[10:45] <jeeves_moss> they're cheap.  get an 1841.  that's all I've got here
[10:45] <jeeves_moss> brb, rebooting into ubuntu
[10:45] <bhuey> Canonical just move to Ipv6 ?
[10:46] <jeeves_moss> bhuey, message me when I come back on-line
[10:48] <jeeves_moss> bhuey, ok, I'm back
[10:48] <gytorios> I just want to create an icon for my kid's laptop to update the system
[10:49] <gytorios> I created a normal .desctop file whith in /home/$USER/.local/share/applications/
[10:49] <jeeves_moss> gytorios, just let them use the update manager.  it's easier
[10:49] <gytorios> I create a .sh file with this content: `echo MyPASSWORD_HERE | sudo -S apt-get upgrade -y --force-yes`
[10:49] <gytorios> jeeves_moss: she can't type password!
[10:50] <jeeves_moss> gytorios, then you're on call man
[10:52] <Nangi> Hello! just saying hi. This is my first time here ^^
[10:52] <antonio> Hey folks..having a problem with scrivener.  When I try pasting an image I get the following error:  connection failure: the Network Access API cannot honor the request because the protocol is not known
[10:53] <EriC^^> hi Nangi
[10:53] <bazhang> !info scrivener
[10:57] <phpNoob> How do i copy paste from nano
[10:58] <phpNoob> or copy pasta contents of the entire file
[10:58] <phpNoob> i need to put it in sublime so i can search for stuff faster
[10:58] <JediMaster> hi guys, is there a way to do the equivilant of ssh port forwarding on iptables? What I want to do is to give a port on a local IP for the internal network to connect to, which will port forward to a remote server on the internet
[10:59] <jeeves_moss> JediMaster, yea, I can't remember how
[11:00] <jeeves_moss> I do it all the time from windows with Putty
[11:00] <jeeves_moss> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[11:01] <bse> JediMaster: http://serverfault.com/questions/247623/iptables-redirect-local-connections-to-remote-system-port
[11:03] <JediMaster> bse, that might just do it, thanks
[11:03] <bse> np
[11:08] <phpNoob> How come i'm missing this folder /etc/php5/apache2
[11:11] <phpNoob> I checked every php.ini i could find (i used locate php.ini) and i made sure i have display_errors turned off
[11:11] <phpNoob> Restarted apache2 service, and checked the phpinfo(), display_errors is still ON
[11:15] <Nangi> phpNoob: to cut text in nano ctrl-k
[11:16] <mridul> Hi Can someone suggest me a good looking font for Ubuntu desktop?
[11:16] <bse> and ctrl-u to paste
[11:17] <phpNoob> Thanks
[11:17] <Nangi> mridul: whats wrong with the Ubuntu font? ;)
[11:17] <mridul> Oh well, its too wide and bold :(
[11:18] <mridul> the light one is hardly visible, and the regular one is too wide n bold
[11:18] <mridul> and the bold one: lol too ugly to use anywhere
[11:19] <mridul> I know most people don't care about fonts, but I am a bit choosy, hence the question :-D
[11:21] <Nangi> mridul: you can sign up for this and get the "All of the fonts you'll ever need"-pfd -> http://designforhackers.com/ or check out https://www.google.com/fonts :)
[11:21] <Nangi> mridul: why not Comic Sans? ;)
[11:22] <mridul> lol I wish was 12, my desktop would look like a cartoon :-D
[11:22] <mridul> Though I am sufficing with Trebuchet MS
[11:23] <Nangi> well Trebuchet MS looks good :)
[11:25] <mridul> (y)
[11:35] <xpheres> hello
[11:35] <xpheres> I would be very happy if anyone test my app and report that is working
[11:35] <xpheres> I have a first bad review because the old versions did not work
[11:35] <xpheres> https://uappexplorer.com/app/analyticaltranslatordemo.xpheresdev
[11:36] <adsc> it would be best only to release apps that have been tested before
[11:36] <vvassilev> Hi all, I have a slapd and auth by lib_nss and etc in the pam. When I do a getent I see the names I need. When I do a ls -la of a folder it shows the ldap groups and users as numbers. Any ideas what it could be?
[11:36] <xpheres> adsc there is a problem, the emulator does not work, my app works in the pc but it did not work in the phone
[11:37] <vvassilev> Also it says that the name is not in the sudoers if I try to do sudo.
[11:37] <xpheres> till the emulator is fixed, developers are blind if they can not afford an ubuntu phone
[11:37] <k1l_> xpheres: i think you get more specific feedback in #ubuntu-touch
[11:37] <xpheres> ok thanks
[11:37] <adsc> xpheres: well, emulator alone isn't authoritative either, you have to test it on end devices
[11:38] <xpheres> I can not afford an ubuntu phone right now adsc
[11:38] <adsc> xpheres: that's okay, you will just have to live with bad reviews when things don't work
[11:39] <xpheres> I know
[11:39] <xpheres> I hope the people from canonical solves that problems, I'm glad to contribute to ubuntu catalogue
[11:39] <ash_m> can someone clear this up for me? So there are various distros (kubuntu, xubuntu, server, torch). Do all these distros follow the same naming convention and support? (ie: Kubuntu Trusty, Xubuntu Trusty etc...) ?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | ash_m
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: each releaseversion has a codename
[11:42] <ash_m> lotuspsychje: the _only_ difference between these "flavors" is the desktop environment/./
[11:42] <ash_m> ?*
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: is there something specific you searching?
[11:43] <ash_m> I mean, that certainly sounds accurate pertaining to Xubuntu and Kubuntu, but is that true for Server and Torch?
[11:43] <zetheroo> what the command to see how much memory each process is taking?
[11:44] <ash_m> zetheroo: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/show-all-running-processes-in-linux/
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: whats your endgoal witht his exactly?
[11:45] <ash_m> 1) understand linux a little better and 2) decide if I should even care which distro I get
[11:46] <ash_m> if the only difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server is just that server doesn't have unity then I don't see why I would bother getting it
[11:46] <ash_m> lotuspsychje: ^
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: each flavor, is the users choice, depending what you will do with that machine
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: so i suggest its best to start from the beginning, what do you want with your machine?
[11:47] <ash_m> it's gonna be a server
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: what kind of server
[11:47] <ash_m> a LAMP/dev server
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: then ubuntu-server will be fine for you
[11:48] <ash_m> lotuspsychje: why not just ubuntu?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> ash_m: desktop isnt designed for server usage
[11:48] <adsc> ash_m: it's not just a different set of packages, it's also different configuration
[11:48] <zetheroo> memory on a webserver is being gobbled up by something and I need to find out by what ..
[11:49] <wfpkhc> hello
[11:49] <ash_m> adsc: I see
[11:49] <adsc> a server usually doesn't need things like instant messaging, pulseaudio server, video streaming, etc.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: wich webserver?
[11:49] <wfpkhc> im trying to get ubuntu to work but cant :(
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> !details | wfpkhc
[11:49] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: LAMP
[11:50] <adsc> ash_m: if you want a server, take the server distro, if you want a dev machine, take a desktop distro
[11:50] <ash_m> adsc: right, but if the only difference is that one will allow me to navigate via a gui if I am on the machine, then that's not much insentive to go for it, but if there are various configurations that make it worth while, that's a different story
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you out on this?
[11:50] <adsc> ash_m: indeed
[11:50] <adsc> ash_m: a server usually doesn't need power save modes, etc.
[11:50] <wfpkhc> ubuntu 15.04 with linuxpen drive - when i boot into the flash disk - it asks me for a password - thats fine - i put in ubuntu as the username and blank password but the computer sits at a sound loop error and wont progress any more
[11:51] <ash_m> adsc: so lets see if I understand this correctly...
[11:51] <adsc> there are many more differences between desktop and server edition than just a missing desktop environment
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: did you have same issue on 14.04?
[11:52] <wfpkhc> i cant get 14.04 to work because it does not support my video card
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: wich card
[11:52] <wfpkhc> GTX 750 Ti Geforce
[11:52] <ash_m> adsc: technically, I could download which ever flavor I wanted and through extensive configuration and headache, turn that flavor (essentially) into ubuntu-server; the fact that there is nothing different other than initial configuration would mean it's relatively easy for ubuntu to release and support all flavors at the same time. Is that right?
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: trusty should be able to run that card fine
[11:53] <wfpkhc> i came on here and they said wait for 15 to come out as 14 doesnt support the new card architecture for nvidia
[11:53] <EriC^^> wfpkhc: live usb shouldn't ask you for a password
[11:53] <adsc> ash_m: yeah, you could turn ubuntu desktop into ubuntu server with a lot of work, and vice versa
[11:53] <ash_m> [05:51] <adsc> there are many more differences between desktop and server edition than just a missing desktop environment <-- pokes a hole in my last comment
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: thats wrong sugestion
[11:53] <wfpkhc> with linuxpendrive should i put any special configuration?
[11:54] <wfpkhc> the card is very new apparently
[11:54] <adsc> ash_m: no, you are right, it could be done, but it's not really a worthwhile endeavour
[11:54] <ash_m> adsc: I see
[11:54] <ash_m> adsc: so that being the case
[11:55] <ash_m> adsc: is it absurd to think that people who have a good handle on ubuntu would also be apt (other than navigating the desktop) at ever other flavor?
[11:55] <adsc> ash_m: yeah, that's right
[11:56] <ash_m> adsc: or are there commands for one flavor that simply won't work on another flavor
[11:56] <adsc> ash_m: I mean, it's not absurd
[11:56] <wfpkhc> with "pendrivelinux" should i put anything for "set a persistance file size for storing changes?
[11:56] <ash_m> adsc: the reason I ask is because I know there are channels for specific flavors
[11:56] <ash_m> (or at least ubuntu-server)
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: did you create the usb from windows?
[11:56] <wfpkhc> yes
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> !usb | wfpkhc try this: universal usb installer
[11:57] <adsc> ash_m: well, on a server, you usually use software that you don't use on desktop machines, and the server channel is mostly for questions about configurations etc. of said software
[11:57] <wfpkhc> i use "pendrivelinux.com"
[11:57] <ash_m> adsc: but network configuration would be the same?
[11:58] <adsc> ash_m: yeah, it's more or less identical, although on a server you usually use a static configuration and on desktop machines you usually use dhcp
[11:58] <adsc> but you can do either on both
[11:59] <ash_m> adsc: okay, well, I think that about does it for me :) thanks for shedding light on it
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:59] <ash_m> sheadding*?
[11:59] <adsc> of course, the server can be the DHCP and DNS server itself, so that there is something you usually won't have on a desktop machine...but can, if you want to
[12:00] <ash_m> shedding*
[12:00] <ash_m> :P
[12:01] <wfpkhc> ill try it now
[12:01] <wfpkhc> and see if i can get it to work
[12:01] <ash_m> adsc: thanks
[12:01] <wfpkhc> thank you for help
[12:01] <wfpkhc> i might come back
[12:01] <adsc> ash_m: you're welcome
[12:01] <wfpkhc> how come unetbootin doesnt support 15.X?
[12:01] <sahilsk> greetings. I want to change default log format for my 1000+ nginx configuration.  by default it uses "combined" which i try to overwrite but it throws 'duplicate log_format' error. 'combined' log_format is hard coded in the code. Is there way to define default log_format for all my sites ?
[12:02] <wfpkhc> and with unetbooting should i select x64?
[12:03] <jerto> Hi all
[12:03] <wfpkhc> hello
[12:03] <wfpkhc> they arnt talking to me either
[12:04] <wfpkhc> ...maybe they cant see me type
[12:04]  * wfpkhc ponders
[12:04] <jerto> I can see you type
[12:04] <wfpkhc> i can see you tto :D
[12:04] <wfpkhc> hello :D
[12:04] <wfpkhc> then they are ignoring me :(
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !patience | wfpkhc
[12:05] <wfpkhc> what should i put for "space used to preserve files across rebots"?
[12:05] <wfpkhc> k
[12:05] <Wazhai> Hi, I'm trying to install python-libevent with pip and I'm kind of a newbie and not really sure what is going wrong here. The installer needs LIBEVENT_ROOT and when I set it to the directory that contains libevent*.a, it instead tries to access /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/.libs/libevent.a. I then did a hack with ln to fix this, but there is another error at the end. http://pastebin.com/eGM513Ei  This is on Kubuntu 14.04. Any help would 
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> wfpkhc: why dont you make your life easy, and make usb with universal usb installer?
[12:06] <wfpkhc> thats what it says on the universal usb installer lotuspsychje
[12:07] <warfaren> updated my ubuntu 14.04 from kernel 3.13.0-35 to 3.13.0-57 via dist-upgrade but after rebooting it shows splash screen for a bit, no hdd activity and eventually i get dropped to a shell that says it can't find the root partition. wtf?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | warfaren
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: or boot up a previous kernel again
[12:08] <warfaren> that's what i'm doing
[12:09] <jerto> Did you update your grub settings ?
[12:09] <warfaren> i googled it and was suggested to try replacing the uuid in fstab with /dev/sda5 but it didn't help. it's not wrong though because old kernel works with it
[12:09] <wfpkhc> im just going to try it out ill be back
[12:10] <warfaren> also ran following commands (as suggested by some forum post):
[12:10] <warfaren>  1099  sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:10] <warfaren>  1100  sudo update-grub
[12:12] <warfaren> i think it might not be seeing any harddrive at all because in that recovery shell, i try ls'ing /dev/sd* with no results and also the path it's printing (the one with the uuid) contains no other uuids either
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: try a liveusb, to test your hd still working perhaps?
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: if its not dead, try the recoverymode/fix broken packages perhaps
[12:13] <warfaren> is that necessary when booting the previous kernel works fine?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: no
[12:14] <warfaren> well it does. that's what i'm using to talk to you right now.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: investigate your logs and file a bug then
[12:16] <warfaren> i was thinking i'm gonna start by reinstalling all the 3.13.0-57 packages (headers and image)
[12:19] <jerto> warfaren, you're in recovery mode, right ?
[12:19] <Nangi> Is there a way to mount a server as a disk? My problem is, I connect to a server (an smb:// to be exact) and I need the absolute path to a file on it. I could go through /run/user/1000/gvfs/"smb-server"/"file" and that fixed my problem. But for future use I want it mounted as drive. Also I want it to not disapear when I reboot computer.
[12:20] <warfaren> jerto: no, i'm running normally on the previous kernel that i never removed
[12:20] <jerto> OK
[12:23] <jerto> Nangi, if you want to mount a samba share at boot, yes, it's possible
[12:24] <Nangi> Perfect. Any pointer on what to look for. I guess googeling "share samba mount on boot" maybe? :)
[12:24] <jerto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:25] <k1l_> put it into fstab
[12:25] <jeeves_moss> Nangi, /etc/fstab
[12:25] <k1l_> but i dont know what systemd does now when the mount is not available. on disks its just stopping the boot, i dont know how it handles the external mounts
[12:26] <jerto> Don't forget to install cifs-utils if it's not already installed
[12:26] <anonymouse_> anonymouse
[12:27] <jeeves_moss> k1l_,  boot into recovery, take out the lines you added to FSTAB, then so back and make an upstart script to run at boot
[12:28] <warfaren> hm ok.. supposedly i've solved the problem simply by reinstalling the 3.13.0-57 package
[12:28] <Nangi> jerto: I will read the link you sent before doing anything. I never fiddled with fstab before.
[12:30] <Samul`> http://i.imgur.com/zH52sVI.png why does pitivi look like this on ubuntu 14
[12:30] <Samul`> *15?
[12:30] <Samul`> *no sorry it's actually 14 LTS, sorry about that
[12:34] <tibyke> is it really not possible to set the rigthmost display to be the primary display so always the leftmost must be the primary display? (up-to-date xubuntu 14.04.2)
[12:36] <Wazhai> Hi, I'm trying to install python-libevent with pip and I'm kind of a newbie and not really sure what is going wrong here. The installer needs LIBEVENT_ROOT and when I set it to the directory that contains libevent*.a, it instead tries to access /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/.libs/libevent.a. I then did a hack with ln to fix this, but there is another error at the end. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11841191/  This is on Kubuntu 14.04. Any help w
[12:39] <ioria> looks to me that you are using static lib (a), when it wants shared (.so).. but it just a quickie peek
[12:39] <rory> Wazhai: I think the Ubuntu package apt-get install libevent-dev provides that
[12:39] <rory> Wazhai: Do you know you need to use pip?
[12:40] <poly_> have any chinese guy
[12:40] <bazhang> !cn
[12:46] <Wazhai> rory: I don't think it's included. "ImportError: No module named libevent"
[12:50] <gianmarco_> hey
[12:50] <gianmarco_> can someone please help
[12:50] <gianmarco_> configure: error: Package requirements (xcb-shm) were not met:  No package 'xcb-shm' found  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.  Alternatively, you may set the environment variables XCB_SHM_CFLAGS and XCB_SHM_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[12:52] <ioria> !info libxcb-shm0-dev
[12:54] <srslyidontsuck> I run a GTX 970 and I am trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 via USB but I can't seem to get NOMODESET to work accordingly to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132).
[12:54] <srslyidontsuck> any tips or pointers
[13:00] <gsflash80> hi all
[13:00] <gsflash80> i've problem with apt-get install node and npm because i'll want to install angular js on ubuntu 14.04
[13:04] <gsflash80> here only for joined or read the request's help^
[13:04] <gsflash80> ?
[13:10] <srslyidontsuck> Running into trouble with "nomodeset", at USB-boot I am prompted with GRUB 2.02 and can not for the world realize where to enter "nomodeset". Any help is welcome.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:13] <srslyidontsuck> hey BluesKaj
[13:14] <BluesKaj> hi srslyidontsuck
[13:14] <BluesKaj> nice nick
[13:15] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: i srsly dont suck tho. but i need help :(
[13:16] <BluesKaj> I just joined so I haven't seen your issue, srslyidontsuck
[13:16] <taxo> hi
[13:17] <taxo> hi
[13:17] <splitwire> ls
[13:18] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  just state your issue and maybe someone will know the answer and help
[13:18] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: rewriting it.
[13:20] <srslyidontsuck> Recently bought a new graphics card (GTX 970) and when I try installing my new fresh Ubuntu 15.04 via USB-thumbdrive. I get a blank screen after trying to boot either "Install" or "Try without install". I hear sound so it's all graphical drivers fault. So I've been here before. We concluded that it I should use "nomodeset" to backroll to kernel standard drivers. But for the world, I can not with the help of the tutorial (h
[13:20] <srslyidontsuck> #walloftext
[13:26] <Gachr_> oh my must have nothings he left my dad when i was a total dick, but that's not their stuff at my dad when anyone can get marriages it'd be funny. but it was a total dick, but it was just ohio that pic. It's not the sword he took off a dead Japanese officer. when anyone can get for 725k is ballsy. Cowboys and all his fireplace mantle. no idea their worth. but it was one should be 49 with firing
[13:26] <Gachr_> a gun. the flag, his eisenhower jacket, and moved to michigan w/ his burial flag, his medals. i have from what I know where are 50 dumbass. FUCK Alaska and Hawaii! they're legit. also don't know, he was just ohio that?. better have been a lot. hippy. who knows. he's still a pot smoking weed did he get for that allowed fag married. maybe if it was just ohio that's not the swords perched above
[13:26] <Gachr_> his burial flag after have from what I know, he was a total dick, but that allowed fag marriages it'd be funny when i was to young to remember. are his eisenhower jacket, and Hawaii! they're legit. also don't knows. he's still a pot smoking hippy. who know, he was to young to remember. are his fireplace many versions of that allowed fag married. maybe if it was to young to remember. are 50
[13:26] <Gachr_> dumbass. FUCK Texas! new one of that?. better he left the army in ?51? from my grandpa who died when anyone can get married. maybe if it was to young to secede every year. Yeah. my grandpa got that pic. It's not the army in '70 they most likely say FUCK Texas! new one should've been a long-term agreement as soon as Monday.
[13:26] <Gachr_> oh my must have from my grandpa who knows. he's still a pot smoking hippy. who know where he get married. maybe if it was a total dick, but it was just ohio that's not the family and moved to michigan w/ his fireplace mantle. no idea their worth. but that's not that?. better he left their stuff at my other family and moved to michigan w/ his eisenhower jacket, and Hawaii! they're legit. also
[13:26] <Gachr_> ost likely say FUCK Alaska and Hawaii! they most like the hood. how much fucking for that pic. It's not the family and moved to michigan w/ his fireplace many in '70 they left the other was just ohio that pic. It's not their worth. but them.
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> drmagoo, you here?
[13:30] <drmagoo> pragmaticenigma: yes I am
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> I figured out my issue from yesterday (I was under the alias keyboardbroken) Where I was trying to restart the window manager without rebooting or logging out
[13:31] <drmagoo> pragmaticenigma: Good, how did you solve it ?
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> Turns out VNC was the culprit. I remote in from my work machine running Windows. When I lock my desktop at work using the Super/Win + L causes the issue. The Super/Win key gets sent over VNC, but not the L or anything thing to say I've let go of the key. So the Super/Win key is "stuck"
[13:33] <drmagoo> pragmaticenigma: odd, but glad to hear that you figured it out
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, so at least in the future I know to kill the VNC server and restart that and not lose everything I have going on
[13:34] <phrearch> hi
[13:34] <phrearch> is qt5-default the whole qt5 package for ubuntu?
[13:36] <rrr_> how to check memory usage?
[13:36] <drmagoo> rrr_: type 'free' in a terminal
[13:37] <teward> rrr_: `free -m` is a better indicator of memory usage, if by memory you mean RAM
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, the description says it provides development binaries for application dev work. If you have qt4-defaut installed it will conflict
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, what are you trying to do?
[13:38] <rrr_> drmagoo: which app use how much memory?
[13:38] <phrearch> pragmaticenigma: i need to run qt5 and pyqt5 together in an ubuntu 14.04 docker container
[13:39] <pragmaticenigma> I suspect the docker support group might be able to better assist you
[13:39] <drmagoo> rrr_: 'ps -efaux' should give you a lot of information
[13:39] <phrearch> pragmaticenigma: isn't there a qt5 package ion the ubuntu repos?
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> there is... but all of the descriptors that accompany it warn that if qt4 is installed on the same machine there will be conflicts
[13:40] <k1l_> rrr_: see "htop" and sort after memory usage
[13:41] <k1l_> rrr_: or "system monitor" if you like a gui
[13:44] <phrearch> hm, and for ubuntu 15? surely qt5 is a default package there?
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, I really think you should reach out to the docker community for help. They can help you better than we can
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, doubtful... qt5 is under active development... qt4 is considered stable
[13:45] <phrearch> pragmaticenigma: just looking for qt5 in the ubuntu repo's
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, run the command "apt-cache show qt5-default" it will tell you if it is available
[13:46] <phrearch> pragmaticenigma: yep its there. i suppose it contains all of qt
[13:48] <pragmaticenigma> phrearch, did you read through the descriptions? It tells you what is installed, what is recommended to be installed
[13:50] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  sometimes a buefi/bios setting can muck up the default graphics card, make sure the bios sees your new pci card as default , some called peripherals
[13:50] <BluesKaj> correction: uefi/bios
[14:00] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: I have a Ubuntu 14.04 ssd already go where I've successfully got nvidia-352 running so it's possible and nothing wrong. The problem is that when booting from the usb it doesnt come with the right drivers so I need to use nomodeset.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  maybe 15.04 plsama5 can't handle that new card, since the default driver is nouveau which works fine and is written for lower end gpus
[14:04] <BluesKaj> ok you're on ubuntu so ,no plasma 5 , srslyidontsuck , forgot where I was for minute
[14:08] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, It takes a few months before drivers are available for the latest and greatest cards on the market... The Live boot images only have what was available at the time of the original release, and are rarely re-built after that
[14:08] <srslyidontsuck> np BluesKaj
[14:09] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: yeah, makes total sense. but how do i install the os with nomodeset?
[14:10] <bosi> Hey guys, for some reason after I installed Audacity, the internal mic of my netbook isn't working anymore, as well as the headphones. It does work fine on the dual boot Windows so it is not the laptop. I checked the Alsa Mixer and for some reason the Internal Mic appears as "disabled" and I can't change it. On Pulse Audio I don't have the options to change the volume either, and in order to make this internal mic work I must use it as mono. Any ideas on what
[14:10] <bosi>  should I do? Thanks!
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> Usually there is a 5 or 10 second delay where if you hit space bar when the initial boot screen comes up so you can change the options
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, ^^^
[14:11] <fabio> https://github.com/fabiomig/serialport-plugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
[14:12] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: trying it. /me is hammering space
[14:12] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: no i get instantly thrown to the GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2.22ubuntu1 view
[14:13] <srslyidontsuck> Where I can either "Try Ubuntu without Installing" or Install Ubuntu" and you know OEM installa and disc checks.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  the work around might be to pull the card, install ubuintu 15.04, then plug the gpu back in and install the 346 driver at the VT, if you can get to the OS to boot
[14:15] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: Yes, thats a very good idea. I was thinking earlier to .. remove the drive and install it in another computer but removing the card will be much easier.
[14:16] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj +1 (you are brilliant)
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, or you can highlight "Try Ubuntu" and press the "e" key
[14:16] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  not really , I had to do it once, just seemed like the thing to do.
[14:16] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: yes.
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, that will allow you to "edit" the commands before booting
[14:17] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: lets me edit the textfile but what do i write where?
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, I don't recall which line to edit... I don't know what it looks like :-(
[14:18] <srslyidontsuck> want me to cite them? :3
[14:18] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: http://piratepad.net/3napOtHnSa
 a noop question. if I have a multiple models with has_many and belongs_to so, a user has many stories that in turn got many  contributions then contributions has many posts. and in stories/new controller action, I want to add story in stories table then with it's id insert into contributions and so on.. how canI acheve this in one action
[14:29] <srslyidontsuck> wb BluesKaj
[14:30] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: holy mother of jesus
[14:30] <srslyidontsuck> Blueking: i dided it i think
[14:31] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: ive been sitting staring at the bootcommands for like 30 good minutes
[14:31] <srslyidontsuck> added it where i hadnt before and
[14:31] <srslyidontsuck> IT WORKED!
[14:33] <mohammad-ghasemi> can I install software after I booted from a live ubuntu usb?
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, awesome
[14:35] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck, cool, glad to hear that  :-)
[14:35] <arunpyasi> Guys, does 64 bit Ubuntu go good in 1 GB RAM ?
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> mohammad-ghasemi, you can, but depending on how you built your USB, they may not persist after you shutdown
[14:36] <mohammad-ghasemi> pragmaticenigma thank you
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> srslyidontsuck, glad you figured it out, because Piratepad is currently down and I can't see what you posted there
[14:40] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: worked as of writing, but seems to have gone bonkers for some reason. thanks for the handholding.
[14:40] <srslyidontsuck> pragmaticenigma: so im on the desktop running the livecd. i should be able to intall the driver i need then install right?
[14:40] <srslyidontsuck> does it keep the driver or will i be blackscreened again when i boot up the new os?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  you'll have to wait and see, nomoidest will give an low res login iirc, then you can install the driver
[14:42] <BluesKaj> an=a
[14:44] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  don't be surprised if the recommended driver is the nvidia-346
[14:45] <sla> hi all
[14:45] <sla> I have a problem. I am developing some code and on my ubuntu I use arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++-4.8.2 is there a way to install a older version of this compiler like this one http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/precise/devel/gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[14:45] <sla> i am on ubuntu 14.04
[14:45] <sla> :/
[14:45] <srslyidontsuck> BluesKaj: i was running 352 before it's the latest but not reommended.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> srslyidontsuck,  latest isn't always the greatest, probly less stable
[14:47] <TJ-> sla: probably the best solution is to create a chroot and install the version you want in that,  "debootstrap" is the tool to do that installation
[14:48] <sla> TJ-: alright then - thanks :)
[14:56] <rainbowwarrior> hi sorry to be a pain, but can someone please tell me if Ubuntu 15.10 will work fine on a HP 455 please ?
[14:57] <k1l_> rainbowwarrior: ubuntu 15.10 will be released in october. we dont know what kernel and packages it will include yet. so we cant answer that.
[14:57] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: that's more a question for #ubuntu+1 ... but 15.10 is in development so expect breakage
[14:57] <rainbowwarrior> TJ Ok Thank you, ok will 14.04 or 15.04 work better for it then please ?
[14:58] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: You'll need to test it yourself with a Live ISO or find another user with the same model and Ubuntu release; maybe search the Ubuntu forums for hardware reports
[14:59] <rainbowwarrior> TJ will do thank you
[15:00] <KaiForce> I have a 14.04.2 server that sometimes takes a really long time to login via SSH.  When I'm stuck waiting for the login, if I login with a different account I see apt-check is running.  Disk I/O is also really high on the host when this is occurring.  Anyone know how I can correct this?
[15:03] <me> hi
[15:04] <Guest22852> hi
[15:05] <TJ-> KaiForce: "apt-check" is part of "update-notifier-common"  and what happens is it is trying to dynamically generate the MOTD text for you when you log-in. You might want to disable that or other "update-motd" scripts. see "dpkg -S /etc/update-motd.d./" for the packages putting scripts there
[15:06] <gp5st> What are things like option www-server, irc-server, &c for in the DHCP config. What uses them?
[15:06] <KaiForce> TJ:  thanks...  from what I've been reading that seems to be the culprit.  I'm going to go ahead and chmod -x all those scripts
[15:08] <lexdvnc> Hi everyone. Quick question. Has anyone here attempted installing kernel 4.0 on 14.04 LTS?
[15:09] <teward> !crosspost | lexdvnc
[15:09] <lexdvnc> ubottu: okay
[15:19] <srslyidontsuck> okey, what the heck.
[15:20] <srslyidontsuck> I just installed the OS and created my user. How come I can't sudo?
[15:20] <garrettkajmowicz> Hi! I'm logged into my desktop via a guest account(long story) and the system has decided I wanted to lock the session. How do I unlock the session?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> srslyidontsuck, one user or more than one user?
[15:20] <k1l_> srslyidontsuck: what kind of system is that? what install iso did you use?
[15:21] <srslyidontsuck> cfhowlett: just the one user
[15:21] <srslyidontsuck> k1l_: 15.04 ubuntu
[15:21] <BrianH> Hey guys.  I have ubuntu running on a multitouch toshiba laptop.  Any cool multitouch demo's I can run?
[15:21] <k1l_> srslyidontsuck: its the users pw to use sudo.
[15:21] <srslyidontsuck> thnx u gais
[15:21] <k1l_> the same you use to login as the user
[15:22] <srslyidontsuck> but dosnt seem to work.
[15:22] <k1l_> srslyidontsuck: did you create that user on the install wizard?
[15:22] <srslyidontsuck> on the try ubuntu first.
[15:22] <cfhowlett> srslyidontsuck, "try ubuntu" means you didn't install it yet.
[15:23] <srslyidontsuck> no no no
[15:23] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: when the installer is asking you questions, it asks for a name and suggested the user account naming for that, is that the user account you are now trying to use to gain sudo?
[15:23] <srslyidontsuck> cfhowlett: get me right. I went through Grub > Try Ubuntu > Installng it > Rebooting into the new > Logging in with my useraccount.
[15:23] <k1l_> srslyidontsuck: no, the install wizard asks you to give a user and pw. so did you use that to login and use sudo?
[15:23] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: yes.
[15:24] <srslyidontsuck> k1l_: yes. the username and password given at creation
[15:24] <k1l_> srslyidontsuck: what output gives you "groups" in a terminal?
[15:24] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: k1l_ Interesting... this used to happen quite frequently but randomly a few years ago with Ubiquity (the GUI front-end to debian-installer), but I thought the bug was squashed now
[15:25] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know if the new kernel 3.19.0-22-generic has a work around for the async trim problem with Samsung 850 SSDs?
[15:25] <srslyidontsuck> k1l_: TJ- : ive got 8x groups. my user and sudo is among them
[15:25] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Does the username or the password contain any 'special' characters, such as non-ASCII for other languages, with accents etc?
[15:26] <srslyidontsuck> nop its a three letter lower-case combo of latin characters
[15:26] <srslyidontsuck> the username not the password ofc
[15:26] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: what does "id -u" report as the UID for the user?
[15:26] <srslyidontsuck> but i managed to login at the spashscreen
[15:26] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: id -u prompts 1000
[15:27] <garrettkajmowicz> What's the password for the guest account?
[15:27] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: no password
[15:27] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: And when you do, for example, "sudo echo hello" what do you see?
[15:27] <srslyidontsuck> [sodo] password for user:
[15:28] <k1l_> give the users pw there
[15:28] <garrettkajmowicz> k1l_: An empty password won't let me unlock the session.
[15:28] <k1l_> make sure shift is not enabled or such things
[15:29] <srslyidontsuck> nothing of the sort is activated.
[15:29] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: on the login lightdm screen?
[15:29] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: OK, so the user is in sudo ... so the password is the issue. I'm wondering if the keyboard translation has changed between installer and installed system, e.g. US <> GB ... causes issues with the £ # and other characters moving. Try typing your password into the command-line so you can see the characters that are generated and confirm that is the password you set
[15:29] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: is that a regular standard install? because there the guest account is passwordless
[15:30] <garrettkajmowicz> k1l_: No. At the session lock screen. I'm trying to unlock my session.
[15:30] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: thats a good bet. i created the password in swedish layout, on the loginscreen it was swedish and now it is swedish. I also wrote it in cleartext. same same.
[15:31] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: for kicks ang giggles i logged out. i cant logg in using the password.
[15:31] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: And you were able to log-in to the installed system via the greeter with this password? (e.g. you didn't use autologin that doesn't require you to type your password)
[15:31] <garrettkajmowicz> It is the register guest account. I didn't need a password to log in, but now I'm unable to unlock my session.
[15:32] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: try to click: switch user and then select guest account
[15:32] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: this might be a bug
[15:33] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: maybe its for the best ot just reinstall and make sure its feed in correctly?
[15:33] <srslyidontsuck> becuase now im also locked out
[15:34] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: OK, so I think we have the cause. You'll need to reboot hold Shift to get the GRUB menu, choose Advanced > Recovery option, which boots with root permissions, then choose the "root shell", do "mount -o remount,rw /" and then "passwd <username>" and re-set the password to something safer, then "exit" and then choose "resume" to get back into the multiuser GUI
[15:34] <garrettkajmowicz> k1l_: I selected guest-1OxKjf and clicked activate. Nothing happens. If I selected start new session, will that destroy my old session?
[15:34] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: better print/wite those commands down :)
[15:35] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1022858
[15:35] <garrettkajmowicz> Also, multi-monitor support at this point is broken in entertaining ways.
[15:35] <garrettkajmowicz> Nice. Now. How do I get my session nac
[15:36] <TJ-> garrettkajmowicz: which GPU is causing the multi-monitor issues?
[15:37] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: passwd: password update successfully. +1 for you sir
[15:37] <TJ-> garrettkajmowicz: from a terminal you can do "dm-tool switch-to-user <username>"
[15:37] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: phew! glad to hear it :)
[15:38] <garrettkajmowicz> Okay. have session back due to workaround in bug report. Why hasn't this been fixed aready? it's 3 years old!
[15:38] <TJ-> garrettkajmowicz: devs prefer new toys :)
[15:39] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: its a new password for this new computer. so takes a while to get the fingers to type it correctly. second attempt at sudo echo hello returned hello in the termianl.
[15:39] <srslyidontsuck> thanks for sharing your wisdom TJ-
[15:40] <garrettkajmowicz> TJ-: This is why people think OSS isn't enterprise-reafy. The bugs we know about aren't fixed.
[15:42] <garrettkajmowicz> TJ-: Nvidia GK107GL. It would have unlock prompt on both monitors. if I typed text in one password box, it would be added to the other. when I pressed enter it would only clear the text from the active password box, so multiple attempts would leave many, many characters in the other window.
[15:42] <k1l_> garrettkajmowicz: seems like its been only 17 users in these 3 years. mark yourself as affected to get it pushed and fixed.
[15:50] <jnoob22> Have been using 14.04 for some time. My wireless mouse has worked mostly for the last year and a half but now it seems to lose connectivity intermittently. I've tried the following: move the usb piece to my 2 other usb inputs on the left side of my laptop. I've tried to reinstalling the xorg input drivers. I've checked the display settings to make sure no other displays are being used. Any ideas?
[15:51] <jnoob22> i notice this does not happen when i boot into Windows 8.1 (ugh)
[15:52] <Squarepy> jnoob22, logitech?
[15:52] <jnoob22> yes
[15:52] <jnoob22> M310 Squarepy
[15:53] <jnoob22> changed battery
[15:53] <Squarepy> jnoob22, please have a look at 'solaar' a unified logitech receiver application
[15:53] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: i was running some installs and suddenly it started bothering me about this "login keyring" which i havnt configured or ever will configure. my password dosnt work for it either way. what do?
[15:54] <TJ-> jnoob22: have you changed the Wifi device in the laptop, or altered the Bluetooth co-exist setting accidentally for the driver?
[15:54] <jnoob22> TJ-, no and no
[15:54] <jnoob22> Squarepy, thanks ill have a look
[15:55] <TJ-> jnoob22: I've found that intermittent issues - with Bluetooth devices - are often caused by collisions with strong local WiFi signals in the 802.11g band. Many wifi devices have a BT-coexist setting.
[15:55] <garrettkajmowicz> k1l_: I don't have/want an account. It was filed and verified.
[15:55] <jnoob22> TJ-, this mouse is usb connected receiver .... are we talking about the same thing?
[15:56] <jnoob22> sorry not very knowledgeable about bluetooth
[15:56] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Ahh... you need yo change the keyring's passphrase to match the user account password, because the system 'passwd' tool cannot do that. I think there's a wiki guide on it
[15:57] <aruntu> running an aruntu 2.0; does somebody know how to check if firewall is installed/enabled ?
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !firewall | aruntu firewall is disabled by default in new install of Ubuntu
[15:57] <TJ-> jnoob22: There's a radio link between the USB dongle and the mouse. It could be using Bluetooth, or some other protocol. It may use an entirely different frequency, but radio interference can be an issue - although if Windows is fine I'd be seriously investigating the Wifi co-exist driver setting, if any.
[15:57] <jnoob22> TJ-, i am using netgear wndr3400 ... any idea what kind of setting in the router i am looking for?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> aruntu, BUT note that aruntu is NOT ubuntu and is NOT supported here.  go to their site for support
[15:58] <TJ-> jnoob22: the setting is in the local PC wifi driver, if it exists at all. Some hardware doesn't have a Bluetooth-coexist mode and therefore nor does the driver
[15:58] <datnig> Trying to get a touchscreen working. Device is at /dev/input/event1 and shows data when I cat the device and touch the screen. evdev complains "Don't know how to use device" - any ideas?
[15:59] <aruntu> thx cfhowlett + ubottu; alreadz tried with iptables, it says it does not exist
[15:59] <cfhowlett> aruntu, can't help with non-ubuntu OS.  sorry.  go to the aruntu sites for support
[16:00] <aruntu> no prob, i tried as i know essential part of aruntu is ubuntu based
[16:00] <aruntu> c ya
[16:00] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: this seems to tell you how to do the password sync **BUT** suggests setting an empty password! Ignore that, follow the Keyring change password steps and set the new keyring password the same as the password you recently set using "passwd"
[16:01] <jeroen___> hello
[16:02] <jeroen___> Question: is keyserver.ubuntu.com a mirror of the general gpg server or another network?
[16:05] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: using what guide, come again?
[16:07] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: sorry!... I forgot the most important bit... let me grab it from my history
[16:07] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot
[16:10] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: but it doesnt accept the current password? because it didnt port over?
[16:13] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: I know, you have to try typing the old password and hope the translation worked for that :)
[16:14] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: If the installer used the default en_US you could temporarily add that as a keyboard language, and select it whilst typing the old password, then back to your regular language before typing the new password.
[16:16] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: but i changed the installer to swedish too. :-3
[16:16] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: we changed the old password becuase it didnt work at all remember.
[16:16] <srslyidontsuck> its goners.
[16:16] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: That doesn't mean it obeyed you everywhere :)
[16:16] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Ahh, you're misunderstanding, let me explain further.
[16:17] <srslyidontsuck> oh please do sir
[16:18] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: When the installer creates the user account it sets the standard system password (with passwd), it also creates a user keyring for user's secrets and uses the password given to encrypt the keyring. Later, if the user changes their password *outside* of the GUI tools (as you needed to do) the password on the keyring remains the one set by the installer. When user logs into a session using their new password the keyring tries to unlock itself using t
[16:18] <TJ-> he new password... which doesn't match the one that is still in use, so it asks for the unlock password - which is the one set by the installer :)
[16:19] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: So, the password you need in order to unlock is the original installer-set password... which means you may hit the same keyboard-language translation issues.
[16:21] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: My suggestion is that if we assume the installer had the wrong language translation set when creating the password, then the only logical other language it might use would be the installer's default language which is usually en_US, so adding that as a temporary keyboard language now *may* allow you to correctly type the *old* password to unlock the keyring. Then change keyboard languages back to the regular one, and enter the *new* password
[16:22] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: *nods*
[16:22] <datnig> does anyone know why xinput_calibrator will not respond to my touches? the touchscreen appears to be working just not calibrated
[16:22] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: It's a good theory, but yes, I switch'd over as you said to EN_US the standard layout for testing purposes. Feed in the password as above stated. but nu. nothing.
[16:23] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Grrr!  ... is this a fresh install with no user data yet? if so it may be simpler to recreate the keyring
[16:23] <srslyidontsuck> lets
[16:24] <srslyidontsuck> its fresh as of .. what is it.. 60 minutes maybe
[16:24] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: I'd best do some more research :)
[16:24] <srslyidontsuck> please direct me.
[16:24] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[16:24] <nerium> Is there a way to dowload only the first bytes of a document over http?
[16:25] <nerium> I’m looking for a tool for doing this
[16:25] <ioria> TJ- it's not possible delete ~/.gnome2/keyrings to reset it ?
[16:25] <chotaz`w> nerium, isnt curl's -r options what you're looking for?
[16:26] <chotaz`w> or do you mean getting only the response header?
[16:26] <nerium> chotaz`w: That doesn’t work in my case. Servern doesn’t support it
[16:26] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, chek out wget
[16:26] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: I’ve, but I can’t find anything
[16:26] <cfhowlett> nerium, wget -c       downloads from interrupted.
[16:27] <nerium> cfhowlett: That c as in continue, not really what I want
[16:27] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: so ill just rm it right?
[16:27] <TJ-> ioria: I assume srslyidontsucks' system isn't using gnome2 !
[16:27] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: noo need to save anythin?
[16:27] <EriC^^> nerium: if they have rsync you could use rsync
[16:27] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: if you look further down to the answer rated 15
[16:28] <srslyidontsuck> "Note: before Ubuntu 12.10 the path to the keyrings folder was ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ instead of ~/.local/share/keyrings/"
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, you would have to use CURL to achieve what you're trying to do... but it's possible the server doesn't support partial downloads which is why that is failing
[16:28] <nerium> EriC^^: It’s a web server
[16:28] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: "If the password is not known: right mouse click and delete for resetting."
[16:28] <EriC^^> nerium: they could still be running rsync
[16:28] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: That’s correct, it doesn’t support partial downloads
[16:28] <ioria> yep, i meant that
[16:28] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: "I understand that all items will be permanently deleted"
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, so your only option is download the whole page and then parse it
[16:28] <srslyidontsuck> what items? *scared*
[16:28] <nerium> EriC^^: no
[16:29] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: you've not put anything in the keyring yet, it's a new install
[16:29] <srslyidontsuck> haha okey
[16:29] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: It’s a stream, there’s no end
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, that would have helpped to know in the beginning
[16:29] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: yey. it stopped asking about the keyring nonsense at the thing i was at orignally.
[16:30] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: Okay, did know that was relevant
[16:31] <srslyidontsuck> now it asked me to create a new keyring, TJ-
[16:31] <srslyidontsuck> +1
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, streams work differently than standard file serving (or typical web page loads) they usually have some under lying protocol like RTSP to stream audio and/or video...
[16:31] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Yes, that's what you're doing... with the new user password as the unlock key
[16:32] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: Not in this case. It’s plain http
[16:32] <TJ-> RTSP is a control protocol; stream will be using something else, maybe RTP or HTTP
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, HTTP doesn't support streaming... you might be going to a web page to view... but the video/audio is being streamed to a plugin using a different protocol
[16:33] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: incorrect. HTTP uses chunked encoding to deliver streams
[16:34] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: It’s HTTP/1.1 according to curl
[16:34] <rawm> is anyone experienced in connecting Ubuntu laptop to enterprise wifi? Can anyone lend me some knowledge
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, that's the response from the URL you gave it... the web page may have an embedded viewer on it
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, what's the URL?
[16:35] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: http://194.16.21.232/749_se_aacp\?type\=.flv\&amsparams\=playerid%3ASBS_RP_WEB%3Bskey%3A1436286800%3B
[16:36] <BBLLCC> hi. On xubuntu 15.04 I boot the machine, but instead of loading automatically I am directed to a blank page with this: xubuntu 15.04 computermodel tty1 login: whats that and how do I avoid / correct it?
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, we don't support pirating in here... please take your question to another forum
[16:36] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: lol, why would that be pirating?
[16:37] <datnig> your mom's a pirate
[16:37] <datnig> a butt pirate
[16:37] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: I need to download the first 100 bytes of the stream as it contains some meta data I need, i’m not interested in the music it self
[16:38] <datnig> nerium: rtmpdump
[16:39] <datnig> i use it to save yahoo live concerts
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> nerium, from the URL it's using a flash player... you will need a different tool to capture the stream
[16:39] <nerium> pragmaticenigma: curl and wget works fine
[16:39] <ljose> Hi, I building a C++ library in Ubuntu 14.04 ARMHF, one of the tests  crash because a exception handler doesn't catch a exception, the same test works fine with in i686 and x86_64, any ideas of a related g++ bug for ARMHF?
[16:40] <rimdeker> Hey guys, do you know a tool/script that can scan a directory and convert names to work with ntfs drives? I guess I could do some regex replace thingie but then I might convert file: and file' to the same filename effectively overwriting one
[16:40] <nerium> datnig: I used flvmeta before, what would the difference be?
[16:42] <rawm> is anyone experienced in connecting Ubuntu laptop to enterprise wifi? Can anyone lend me some knowledge
[16:42] <merpnderp> I'm not sure if this is a Ubuntu question or not. But I've created a 15.04 64 bit instance in side Virtualbox, and it is beautiful and works great. But how can I get it to be full screen?
[16:42] <cfhowlett> merpnderp, you need vbox guest additions for full screen resolution
[16:43] <merpnderp> cfhowlett: ah-hah, so just a simple package...sweet
[16:43] <cfhowlett> indeed merpnderp :)
[16:43] <ioria> rimdeker, you mean names with illegal character for win like ':'   or '/' ?
[16:43] <rimdeker> ioria: Exactly
[16:44] <rawm> @ioria, I tried to use the ca-cert to connect to my work enterprise wifi, no luck. Any idea why my linux box is not pulling the cert?
[16:45] <ioria> rimdeker, had the same problem with samba share and (partially) solved adding in smb.conf the  vfs objects = catia  and  catia:mappings = 0x22:0xa8,0x2a:0xa4,0x2f:0xf8,0x3a:0xf7,0x3c:0xab,0x3e:0xbb,0x3f:0xbf,0x5c:0xff,0x7c:0xa6
[16:47] <ioria> rawn: sorry to hear that. no, not now sorry :(
[16:47] <rawm> np
[16:52] <colonolGron> hi
[16:53] <colonolGron> i am trying to compile https://github.com/jubalh/nudoku but get http://pastebin.com/9N0fjvqX it looks like ncurses is not isntalled, but i installed it, also the -dev of course. any ideas?
[16:55] <ioria> rawn: in Network Connection did you select wpa & wpa2 Enterprise ?
[16:56] <ioria> rawm : in Network Connection did you select wpa & wpa2 Enterprise ?
[16:58] <trism> colonolGron: it is likely a bug in nudoku's makefile: gcc -std=gnu99 --pedantic -Wall -g -O2 -lncurses  -o nudoku main.o sudoku.o; -lncurses has to go at the end after the object files that reference it
[16:58] <yao_ziyuan> i have a laptop (mechanical hard drive) whose left side fell onto the desk from 0.5cm high. could that cause any physical damage to the disk?
[16:58]  * Bl4ckD34th I am back... online for girls only! ! !
[16:58] <k1l> Bl4ckD34th: turn that off please
[16:59] <k1l> yao_ziyuan: yes it could. but that is a topic for ##hardware
[16:59] <colonolGron> trism, but shouldnt automake/autoconf take care of that?
[16:59] <Borealix> so i tried installing ubuntu on my old dinosaur but after i log in the screen stays the same for about a minute then the display gets weird
[16:59]  * Bl4ckD34th Online for girls only....have a great day! ! !
[16:59] <trism> colonolGron: yes, if they used LDADD instead of LDFLAGS
[17:00] <colonolGron> trism, i am doing git clone https://github.com/jubalh/nudoku;cd nudoku;utoreconf -i;/configure;make;/src/nudoku
[17:00] <Borealix> any help?
[17:00] <trism> colonolGron: they may be using a system which doesn't have as strict a linker as in ubuntu
[17:00] <colonolGron> trism, oh interesting
[17:01] <colonolGron> so you mean if i change their makefile.am to say AM_LDADD instead of AM_LDFALGS it should work?
[17:01] <trism> colonolGron: yes
[17:02] <colonolGron> trism, warning: variable 'AM_LDADD' is defined but no program or
[17:05] <trism> colonolGron: try just LDADD instead of AM_LDADD
[17:05] <trism> colonolGron: you could also try: nudoku_LDADD
[17:06] <trism> colonolGron: or nudoku_LIBADD
[17:07] <colonolGron> trism, is there a difference?
[17:07] <trism> colonolGron: in this case, not really since there is only one binary
[17:08] <colonolGron> ok :)
[17:08] <colonolGron> let me try
[17:08] <pi-boy> hello\
[17:09] <pi-boy> hello kvirc@ras75-1-81-57-62-148
[17:09] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: Ubuntu is the operating system that keeps on giving. I'm trying to mount one of my harddrives and get the error "No object for d-Bus interface". I find no reasonable explanation out of googeling. :-s
[17:09] <srslyidontsuck> ps. using nautilus
[17:09] <trism> colonolGron: ah I guess LIBADD is for libraries and ldadd is for binaries so I guess ldadd is the right one
[17:12] <BBLLCC> every time I log out to switch my machine off xubuntu 15.04 "stops" in a blank screen, not whutting the machine. It can be like that for the whole night
[17:12] <BBLLCC> shut down I mean
[17:13] <colonolGron> trism, it worked, thanks a lot!
[17:14] <Guerra> quit
[17:14] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: possibly? http://askubuntu.com/questions/627621/no-object-for-d-bus-interface-when-mounting-with-nautilus
[17:15] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-:  by user i suppose they mean my username. and i dont have that file?
[17:15] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: considering changing file manager?
[17:15] <srslyidontsuck> i was using "file" apparently not nautilus as i thought
[17:16] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: Yes, 'user' is your username, or you can simply replace the literal "/home/user/" with the environment variable $HOME which is always set to the current user's home directory
[17:17] <srslyidontsuck> mm true i was already there for starters.
[17:18] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: so when i try to mount them with "Files" i get that error. would yo urecommend another filemanager maybe?
[17:18] <srslyidontsuck> 2 of 3 drives return the error
[17:19] <srslyidontsuck> for starters only one did
[17:19] <TJ-> srslyidontsuck: I don't use Unity/Gnome so I'm not the best person to help you on that
[17:19] <srslyidontsuck> haha oki
[17:19] <srslyidontsuck> ill just use nautilus then sir
[17:19] <srslyidontsuck> inb4 files == nautilus
[17:21] <srslyidontsuck> im gona try reboot a 3rd time
[17:22] <BBLLCC> every time I shut down my machine off xubuntu 15.04 "stops" in a blank screen, not whutting the machine. It can be like that for the whole night/join #xubuntu
[17:24] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: They say god works in mysterious ways, I say, Linux works in mysterious ways.
[17:24] <srslyidontsuck> TJ-: I rebooted the 3rd time in a row now they are avalible for mounting.
[17:24] <BBLLCC> TJ-, can you help me with this problem too?
[17:25] <harry_> exot
[17:25] <harry_> exit
[17:25] <harry_> quit
[17:25] <Borealix> when you try to install a distro on a cheap old vista desktop and the screen just goes haywire every time
[17:26] <TJ-> BBLLCC: that sounds like a system/ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) issue, possibly specific to the make/model/firmware version of the PC
[17:28] <BBLLCC> TJ-, err... do I always have to plug off the cable to turn my machine offf? thats not good for the software, is it?
[17:28] <Bashing-om> Borealix: What I would do is look at the graphics situation; ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ; sudo lshw -C display ' . What the hardware is and if a driver is loaded .
[17:29] <TJ-> BBLLCC: what happens usually is the operating system shuts down and sends the power-off command to the ACPI interface which should HALT the CPUs and then power-down, but that 2nd step fails on some systems due to incompatibilities/bugs in the fimware ACPI on the motherboard
[17:30] <BBLLCC> TJ-, so it is ok to unplug it?
[17:30] <TJ-> BBLLCC: it should be... I'd research your make/model + keywords "ACPI linux" to see if there are any Linux kernel options you can use to solve it
[17:31] <BBLLCC> TJ-, simply google or command line?
[17:31] <TJ-> BBLLCC: search engines :)
[17:32] <BBLLCC> o, this must be grub related, right?
[17:33] <BBLLCC> my machine shut down correctly with grub1, but since getting rid of it, fixing the kernel problem, grub2 does not recognize
[17:33] <TJ-> BBLLCC: not at all; although if you find a kernel option you'd add it in /etc/default/grub so that the bootloader can give it to the kernel at boottime
[17:33] <BBLLCC> https://askubuntu.com/questions/196132/ubuntu-not-shutting-down-going-to-black-screen-12-04 what do you think of that TJ- ?
[17:34] <BBLLCC> is that old? im running 15.04
[17:34] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I see no mention there of a specific make/model of PC (or motherboard) which is the key to your issue
[17:35] <BBLLCC> what command do I need to get the model of my laptop?
[17:38] <TJ-> BBLLCC: "grep DMI /var/log/dmesg"
[17:42]  * newwwww new to irc
[17:42] <BBLLCC> M7X0SUN acpi linux didnt return anything, so i have to resign myself to unplug the cable
[17:42] <BBLLCC> unless TJ- suggest otherwise :D
[17:44] <TJ-> BBLLCC: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please
[17:45] <TJ-> BBLLCC: M7X0SUN is a specific sub-model. Use "M7X0" as the search key, as in "clevo M7X0 acpi linux" ... I see reports that these PCs are indeed not fully compatible with Linux
[17:45] <rimdeker2> Can someone help me fix these dpkg erros? http://dpaste.com/2DKAS3Y
[17:45] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11842764/
[17:49] <adamretter1> I am on a vivid system, but vmbuilder does not seem to support `—suite vivid` any ideas?
[17:49] <TJ-> BBLLCC: line 252 seems to confirm what I've already said
[17:50] <BBLLCC> TJ-, can firmware be edited?
[17:51] <TJ-> BBLLCC: no
[17:52] <andyfied> what kind of firmware? you can edit the firmware on a HDD but you will brick it doing that
[17:52] <TJ-> BBLLCC: it looks like the firmware claims to support ASPM (Active State Power Management) but then fails to provide a function to initialise it, see line 268-69
[17:52] <troulouliou_dev> hi is there a ppa for gnupg 2.1.X ?
[17:55] <TJ-> BBLLCC: it might be that giving the kernel acpi_os_name="..." with one of the Windows names might help, you'd need to know which name that firmware answers to, though
[17:56] <BBLLCC> TJ-, you are talking about editing a line kernel acpi_os_name=windowsxp <?
[17:57] <TJ-> BBLLCC: yes, but we need to know  the correct name from your system's ACPI DSDT
[17:58] <BBLLCC> how do i do that?
[18:02] <bishops> hi, i have a wireless connection problem. everytime. sometimes when i wake up my laptop from sleep or I change from one connection to the other it doesn't connect. after restarting a few times the system it ends up connecting. Can someone help?
[18:03] <TJ-> BBLLCC: "sudo apt-get install acpica-tools" then "sudo iasl -d -p /tmp/ /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT" then "pastebinit /tmp/.dsl"
[18:03] <burmph> bishops, Name the wifi hardware info and what you have done to get it work, originally, IE drivers a wrapper....etc, for the channel.
[18:04] <burmph> we just need some details is all
[18:05] <bishops> burmph: it always worked, it just sometimes it doesn't connect after a wake up from sleep or a change of connection. I already tried to find the problem with some guys here a few days ago but then I didn't have the problem so we couldn't see it in the /var/log/syslog file
[18:05] <bishops> burmph: but this time I can send the syslog file as the problem just happened several times
[18:06] <OerHeks> When does Firefox 39 'finally' come in our repo's ?
[18:06] <burmph> bishops, So when you installed, the wifi worked right away, no mods?
[18:06] <bishops> burmph: yes
[18:06] <TJ-> OerHeks: when the bugs have been fixed that cause 12.04 crashes
[18:07] <TJ-> OerHeks: I've been using it on 14.04 from the mozilla-team PPA ... it's got several regressions over 38
[18:07] <OerHeks> Thank you, TJ- so i better wait for 40?
[18:07] <burmph> bishops, Cool, that is more info that may help, not sure myself, my guess is just a signal strength issue, linux is a bit weak here, a guess however.
[18:08] <bishops> burmph: Ok thanks, i'm not sure that's the problem as I'm close to the router, that's my home connection.
[18:08] <TJ-> OerHeks: I'm not sure... I keep on with 39, though not sure what extras it brought :)  My main issue is on every startup it apologies that it crashed on last quit, and I have to approve it reopening the saved tabs. Does this across every profile I have
[18:09] <bishops> burmph: I'm thinking maybe there is a problem with the wireless app
[18:09] <burmph> bishops, Have you accessed the router and checked the signal level?
[18:09] <TJ-> OerHeks: I've also had it fail to play most HTML5 video, crashes the browser within a few seconds on Youtibe for example
[18:09] <bishops> burmph: but it does not only happen in my house, it happens on several connections
[18:10] <TJ-> OerHeks: that last could be due to me using very recent ffmpeg/avconv libraries though
[18:10] <burmph> bishops, Hopefully others can get you all fixed, not sure here, sorry.
[18:10] <bishops> burmph: my phone connects with no problem, and obviously phones have weaker receptors..
[18:10] <bishops> burmph: no worries thank you!
[18:11] <burmph> bishops, The only thing I would say here, is be careful with confirmation bias, be sure your conclusions are fact based is all, if not word accordingly. ;)
[18:11] <bishops> burmph: what do you mean?
[18:12] <burmph> bishops, There is a basic scientific inquiry methodology.
[18:12] <TJ-> BBLLCC: this will show you the names that PC's ACPI firmware recognises for acpi_os_name:  "grep Windows /tmp/.dsl"
[18:13] <bishops> burmph: alright but i don't see how to go about this. and also i'm a complete amateur..
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, do you have a lot of saved WiFi connections?
[18:15] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: mm maybe, what's  a lot?
[18:15] <burmph> bishops, Your fine, your in the right place for help. ;)
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, more than 5
[18:16] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: yes then
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, I would start by removing all the networks you seldom connect to
[18:18] <AqD> is there any hardware sensor indicator for 15.04??
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> bishops,  each time the card loses power... the computer has to go through that entire list and try to find an AP that works... if the list is very long, it could take a while. Also if any of those networks are in close proximity to your home... it might be trying to connect to that network instead of your home network
[18:19] <burmph> !lm-sensors | AqD
[18:19] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: alright, I have just kept two. home and office connections.. :)
[18:19] <burmph> AqD, I use a conky to read the sensors
[18:19] <burmph> err show*
[18:20] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, it's also best security practice to remove old ones so you are less likely to connect to rouge access points
[18:20] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: One question, when I connect to office one, there may be a whole protocol that is different from other connections (it's a university), so I'm wondering if this was the beginning of the mess?
[18:22] <AqD> conky??
[18:22]  * AqD googles
[18:22] <burmph> AqD, In the repos, and 1000's of custom scripts on the net.
[18:23] <burmph> AqD, There is a thread at the ubuntu forum with tons of scripts.
[18:23] <AqD> burmph: thx!
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, what's unique about the office connection?
[18:23] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: i just closed the lid of the laptop and reopened it and it connected at lightning speed so maybe we solved the issue
[18:23] <burmph> AqD, No problem, you can have a cool one.
[18:24] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: it has a certificate protocol of some sort that I had to manually set up, but forget it
[18:24] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, awesome! If it should start doing that again, you could remove the office connection. It comes down to a process of elimination
[18:25] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: and next step just stop going to office, that would be great! :)
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, if only!
[18:26] <bishops> pragmaticenigma: by the way I have another problem that is really bugging me. my webcam and one of my usb port is not working. Now the thing is they were working before i re-installed not long ago ubuntu 14.04. So i'm sure they are fine, I just don't understand why they stop working. Some people said the hardware is damaged but it is hard to believe because nothing happened in the meantime. any ideas?
[18:27] <burmph> bishops, Boot a live and seee if it os the same.
[18:27] <burmph> is*
[18:27] <bishops> burmph: sorry what does it mean? how to do this?
[18:28] <rubick> one of my ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS servers is running kernel 3.16. I think it "should" be running 3.13. Should I roll back, and how would I do so?
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> bishops, he means use one of the Live CDs or Flash a USB drive with the Live version of Ubuntu... then test your camera
[18:28] <burmph> bishops, Boot the live iso download used for installing, in a usb or dvd.
[18:29] <burmph> rubick, If you installed as 14.04.2 you have the 3.16
[18:29] <BBLLCC> sorry TJ- i had to take a mini nap
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> rubick, is there any particular reason you want to run a potentially vulnerable version of the kernel?
[18:29] <BBLLCC> but im back
[18:29] <bishops> burmph: oh ok, so i run ubuntu from the usb and see if on it these ports work
[18:30] <rubick> I thought patches were backported to the older kernels. Maybe I don't understand ubuntu's OS-to-kernel versioning.
[18:30] <burmph> rubick, Read carefully, not for up or down in your kernel's, just info. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:30] <Bashing-om> rubick: If the original ionstall with the -16 kernel is 14.04.2 then it is (H)ard (W)are (E)enablement . As it usese the next generation kernel and xserver .
[18:33] <Bashing-om> rubick: HWE; see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL .
[18:35] <TJ-> BBLLCC: "sudo apt-get install acpica-tools" then "sudo iasl -d -p /tmp/ /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT" then "pastebinit /tmp/.dsl"
[18:35] <TJ-> BBLLCC: this will show you the names that PC's ACPI firmware recognises for acpi_os_name:  "grep Windows /tmp/.dsl"
[18:36] <Guest59680> any ubuntu gurus kind enough to give me some advice on my lamp stack? msg me
[18:38] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843051/
[18:38] <burmph> Guest59680, You want peer reviewed help, do it on the channel.
[18:38] <Guest59680> ah, thank you burmph, new to this >.<
[18:39] <burmph> Guest59680, No Prob, we want you to get help. ;)
[18:39] <Guest59680> wait isn't this the channel tho? says official ubuntu support channel up top?
[18:40] <Pici> Guest59680: Ask the question here, not in private :)
[18:40] <Guest59680> Oh, gotchya
[18:42] <Guest59680> Proves how new I am to unix and even IRC for that matter, well I've been following online guides and setting up an ubuntu lamp stack web server at home for fun/practice and I did something real dumb. I accidentally changed permissions on /var and it screwed a bunch of things up. I found a "fix" for it but I am concerned about my servers future security. Would it be better in the long run to just reinstall everything and start over?
[18:42] <Guest59680> I read somewhere that what I ignorantly did was a BIG NO-NO
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> Guest59680, did you run chmod?
[18:43] <Guest59680> yes
[18:43] <BBLLCC> TJ-, i dont know what to di with thatinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843051/
[18:43] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Reading the AML I'd guess the best selection would be "Windows 2001.1"
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> Guest59680, you shouldn't have to reinstall ... but it may be faster depending on how customized the system is already
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> Guest59680, there is a way to fix it in place though
[18:45] <bishops> i just tried to restart the system and launch ubuntu from disk and yes my webcam works and my usb port so what's going on!
[18:45] <Guest59680> pragmaticenigma: Okay, I believe that I have already done so then, because sudo is working, and everything seems fine.
[18:45] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ok, so now, where do I need to paste "kernel acpi_os_name=Windows 2001.1" ?
[18:45] <ioria> Guest59680,  you can paste  ls -al /var  on paste.ubuntu.com  for starters
[18:46] <bishops> burmph: i just tried to restart the system and launch ubuntu from disk and yes my webcam works and my usb port so what's going on!
[18:46] <bishops> burmph: i hope that I don't have to reinstall everything now..
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> ioria, Guest59680 likely ran "chmod -R 777 /var"
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> 777, ouch
[18:47] <ioria> Guest59680,  you used -R ?
[18:47] <Guest59680> ioria and pragmaticenigma: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843122/
[18:47] <TJ-> BBLLCC: reboot, hold Shift down to get GRUB menu, highlight the boot entry and press 'E' to edit it... navigate to the line beginning "linux ..." navigate to the end of the line and add "  acpi_os_name="Windows 2001.1"  " then press F10 to boot with that option. Once booted try a shutdown and see if it powers off correctly. If it does, you can add that setting permanently to "/etc/default/grub" and its GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX string, and then do "sudo update-grub" to a
[18:47] <TJ-> dd that to GRUB's boot config.
[18:47] <Guest59680> ioria: Yes, I used -R . A LOT. I'm a moron =[
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> Guest59680  no, you're a beginner, that's not the same
[18:48] <BBLLCC> holies
[18:48] <Guest59680> MonkeyDust: ;) thanks friend!
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> MonkeyDust, you wouldn't believe the number of sites saying you should set the permission to 777 for your webserver folder
[18:48] <ioria> mmm... seems you changed only www ....
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> MonkeyDust, instead of properly adding the user to the www-data group which is way easier
[18:50] <Guest59680> ioria: good, then if it seems that way perhaps Keyodake's answer worked (http://askubuntu.com/questions/548395/accidentally-overwrote-permissions-on-var-lib-recursively)
[18:50] <ioria> Guest59680,  can you paste ls -al /var/log too ?
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> pragmaticenigma  yes, but chmod 777 is 'fast n easy'
[18:50] <BBLLCC> TJ-, if this works, does it mean im gonna have to manually edit every kernel upgrade?
[18:51] <TJ-> BBLLCC: no, if it works and you add it to "/etc/default/grub" that setting will be attached to every kernel entry every time a new kernel is installed and GRUB reconfigured
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843156/
[18:51] <BBLLCC> TJ-, brb
[18:53] <ablegreen_w> So I set up SSH keys between so I can login without a password. However, when I execute ssh as root (after doing sudo su), it prompts for the password
[18:53] <ablegreen_w> How do I fix this?
 oh yeah I gauruntee that I ran "chmod -R 777 /var"
[18:53] <ioria> Guest59680,  yep, a little mess, i think
 = / , would you reinstall if you were me? I mean, it took me like 15 hours to setup what I have so far, but it was a learning process so I bet I could do it muchhhh faster if I had to do it again
[18:55] <ioria> Guest59680,  really don't know... owners seem ok, just the rwx stuff
[18:56] <ioria> Guest59680,  what's not working , exactly ?
 Well, everything seems like it is working fine. I read somewhere that what I did changed permissions on many many files, and that it could pose serious security threats and vulnerabilities. I have a gut feeling that I will regret it down the road if I don't do a clean install.
[18:57] <sirsomewhatFancy> Well, this could pose a security issue, but it doesn't sound like it would be grounds for a reinstall even if that were the case.
[18:57] <ioria> Guest59680,  that's true.  but why did you change the permissions ?
[18:58] <SCHAAP137> chmod 777 is bad
[18:58] <sirsomewhatFancy> Yes.
[18:58] <SCHAAP137> don't ever do that again
[18:58] <sirsomewhatFancy> But unless you are logging on to every public wifi network within 10 miles, it shouldn't be TOO big a problem.
[18:58] <sundose> Guest59680 permission bug work if you create an app with a bug
[18:58] <sirsomewhatFancy> It just means extra care is required.
 I was frustrated with my website showing 403 Forbidden, and was trying every solution I could find, probably not the brightest Idea.
[18:59] <sirsomewhatFancy> So to be clear, are these files everything in / (root folder) or just somewhere in your home folder?
[18:59] <sirsomewhatFancy> Yeah, maybe not.
[18:59] <ioria> Guest59680,  as you said it was for learning
[18:59] <sirsomewhatFancy> The quickest way is to purge the server and reinstall.
[19:00] <sirsomewhatFancy> That's if it were for education.
 I believe just /var I don't think I messed with root. and ^^ that's what I was thinking, reinstall.
[19:00] <SCHAAP137> chmod 777 should be considered an extremely temporary last resort, in case of a real emergency, with people almost dying unless a piece of data is accessed
[19:00] <sirsomewhatFancy> So to be clear, you changed everything in /var in order to fix a server bug?
[19:00] <sundose> chmod 777 not equal chmod a+x
 I did some commands like "sudo -i chmod -Rf 755 /var/lib" and it fixed the sudo issues, but I just don't feel like it was a "Fix all"
 Yes, I believe so, sir. I'm not the sharpest ubuntu beginner.
 That's OK. I've made those mistakes too.
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> !tab | Guest59680 sirsomewhatFancy
 Wil remember that! thanks =D
[19:03] <SCHAAP137> hehe, cool Guest59680, yw
[19:03] <Guest59680> ubottu: Oh thank you, did I do it right?
[19:03] <sirsomewhatFancy> ubottu: does this work in Xchat?
[19:03] <Guest59680> Wow I feel stupid now.
[19:03] <ioria> Guest59680, it's not easy by hand re-chmod all those files .... different permissions...
[19:03] <sirsomewhatFancy> Haha. I'm new to IRC so that's actually really funny.
[19:03] <SCHAAP137> yes it works in xchat as well, sirsomewhatFancy
[19:04] <SCHAAP137> and mIRC, and irssi
[19:04] <SCHAAP137> and pbly others too
[19:05] <sirsomewhatFancy> My suggestion is to re-install the kernel and check to see if any of the file permissions have changed. I have no clue whether this will work, but that will take care of some of the worst damage that could have happened.
[19:05] <Guest59680> ioria: I understand, well you have been a tremendous help friend! I have decided to go ahead and reinstall and start over! Good learning experience I suppose!
[19:06] <sirsomewhatFancy> Guest59680, I think that just reinstalling packages as needed for security (openssl, gnutls, kernel, anything that deals with networking) should do the trick.
[19:06] <Guest59680> sirsomewhatFancy: great help as well thank you sir!
[19:06] <sirsomewhatFancy> Guest59680, That does sound quicker.
[19:06] <ioria> Guest59680, ok
[19:06] <sirsomewhatFancy> Guest59680, not sure exactly how you would get everything with my method, that's the main problem.
[19:06] <Guest59680> All you guys are awesome, thank you so much for your time and brain power!
[19:07] <sirsomewhatFancy> Guest59680, glad to help!
[19:10] <pragmaticenigma> Guess they left
[19:10] <pragmaticenigma> :-(
[19:11] <sirsomewhatFancy> Still here. (still alive)
[19:11] <sirsomewhatFancy> Sorry, that's for the portal IRC. or whatever.
[19:12] <bbroadstone> I am trying to install codeblocks, i tried this and get this
[19:12] <bbroadstone> erkburgles@erkburgles-Inspiron-3451:~/Downloads/debian-stable/amd64$ sudo dpkg -i codeblocks_13.12-1_all.deb
[19:12] <bbroadstone> dpkg: error processing archive codeblocks_13.12-1_all.deb (--install):
[19:12] <bbroadstone>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[19:12] <bbroadstone> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:12] <bbroadstone>  codeblocks_13.12-1_all.deb
[19:12] <sirsomewhatFancy> Try going to packages.ubuntu.com and downloading and installing the .deb hosted there.
[19:13] <sirsomewhatFancy> bbroadstone, I have had this problem too. Try clearing your apt cache while you're at it. I don't remember the solution though, it was ages ago!
[19:13] <bbroadstone> ok, just curious, is there a way for me to troubl
[19:13] <bbroadstone> ok
[19:13] <bbroadstone> how to clear apt cache
[19:14] <sirsomewhatFancy> bbroadstone, I'll check. Can't remember exactly.
[19:14] <bbroadstone> oh, thats ok ill go google hunting, thanks for your help
[19:14] <sirsomewhatFancy> bbroadstone, sudo apt-get clean
[19:14] <bbroadstone> nice ty
[19:14] <sirsomewhatFancy> That should do the trick.
[19:15] <sirsomewhatFancy> bbroadstone, there are a number of things which could cause this. Also check for dependency problems while you're at it.
[19:15] <bbroadstone> i think i downloaded and installed the only dependency necessary but ok
[19:16] <pwca> hi, I am using Ubuntu 15.04 and for some reason I get the following error "fatal error: hdf5.h: No such file or directory" when attempting to build a package. I thought I had installed hdf5 properly?
[19:16] <sirsomewhatFancy> bbroadstone, APT should do it automatically, but if there's a problem maybe it doesn't quite communicate right.
[19:16] <pwca> is there anything here I am missing? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdf5
[19:16] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca, are you sure you installed the dev package AND the library?
[19:17] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca, libhdf5-dev looks right, but I don't know your purpose.
[19:17] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: well, I want to compile something that needs hdf5.h.
[19:17] <pwca> I installed libhdf5-dev.
[19:17] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: Just hdf5 will give you just the library no build utils.
[19:18] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: try now then.
[19:18] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: should work now.
[19:18] <pwca> now?
[19:18] <sirsomewhatFancy> yes
[19:18] <pwca> I had already installed libhdf5-dev.
[19:18] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: what program are you trying to build?
[19:18] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: caffe.
[19:19] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/installation.html
[19:19] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: they have specific Ubuntu dependencies that I have already installed.
[19:20] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: sometimes they don't mention one. Look back a bit in the term output and tell me if there are any errors.
[19:20] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: I wish I could help more here.
[19:20] <mongoose78> hello, why do i get system problem messages after a while i install 14.04? does anyone knows how to fix that?
[19:20] <BBLLCC> TJ-, it worked. now I have to sudo thunar the path you mentioned /etc/default/grub , search for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and add exactly that "acpi_os_name="Windows 2001.1" to it
[19:20] <BBLLCC> right?
[19:20] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: check the version too. That's sometimes a problem.
[19:20] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: the only error appears to be the missing hdf5.h file.
[19:21] <mongoose78> i update and upgrade system everyday
[19:21] <SCHAAP137> just recompiled my ircd and webserver with the new LibreSSL
[19:21] <sirsomewhatFancy> mongoose78: I get those too. I don't remember exactly how this gets rid of them, but I think installing an alternate flavor of ubuntu (Kubuntu works best) alongside by installing kubuntu-desktop should help. (maybe)
[19:21] <mongoose78> still get those messages
[19:22] <dannato> 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[19:22] <dannato>  file mpa vga how settings??
[19:22] <dannato> file mp4
[19:22] <mongoose78> you dont get those in kubuntu?
[19:22] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:22] <dannato> no
[19:23] <sirsomewhatFancy> mongoose78, it suppresses most of them, yes.
[19:23] <dannato> only mplayer and smlayer
[19:23] <sirsomewhatFancy> mongoose78, they become notifications.
[19:23] <mongoose78> thank you for your help
[19:23] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato, those two are oddballs. Still, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:24] <mongoose78> im going to try install kubuntu on my other LT
[19:24] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato, if not, [CTRL] [ALT] [T], then type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[19:24] <BBLLCC> TJ-, please check if this looks fine. And, what do I do with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843367/
[19:24] <sirsomewhatFancy> mongoose78, that will of course give you KDE instead of Unity, but it may be worth a shot.
[19:24] <dannato> ok
[19:25] <dannato> im using xubuntu 14.04 lts
[19:26] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato: that doesn't really matter, but if you feel more comfortable, try xubuntu-restricted-extras or lubuntu-restricted-extras. The only difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is the desktop it uses. They can literally be installed on top of each other.
[19:26] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato: with no modification to either one.
[19:26] <SCHAAP137> i can highly recommend MATE as well
[19:27] <sirsomewhatFancy> SCHAAP137, that won't solve his problem. But yes, you can use that too on top of everything else, given disk space
[19:27] <sirsomewhatFancy> SCHAAP137, I like Mate too.
[19:27] <dannato> when you view the file mp4 seen slow
[19:27] <dannato> i have installed
[19:28] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: seems like I found a possible fix: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/caffe-users/cdyqjNpoFRY
[19:28] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato, that sounds like a video card error. I don't know what model integrated graphics you have. Is this AMD, Intel, other???
[19:28] <pwca> sirsomewhatFancy: trying it now.
[19:28] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: awesome! Good luck!
[19:28] <pwca> thanks for the help!
[19:28] <sirsomewhatFancy> pwca: anytime!
[19:30] <MeMeMe> hey guys, I just got a new Lenovo Yoga 11, Loaded Ubuntu 14 and everythings seems to be working great, touch pad works, screen rotation and what not. However, I can't seem to find the wireless driver and I was wondering if anyone knows where i could find it, or perhaps point me in a better direction. Thank You! =)
[19:30] <rypervenche> MeMeMe: sudo lcpci -nn | grep Network
[19:30] <sirsomewhatFancy> MeMeMe, What kind of wifi card? These laptops and tablets often have more than one model.
[19:30] <sirsomewhatFancy> MeMeMe, essentially what rypervenche said.
[19:31] <rypervenche> MeMeMe: Please provide us with that output.
[19:31] <Sparchitect> sirsomewhatFancy: HEY! IT's Guest59680, from a couple minutes ago (going to reinstall ubuntu because I used chmod 777 -R). I just had a quick question: Should I go ahead and install Ubuntu Server instead of Ubuntu Desktop this time? I mean, its a seperate computer that I put together just for this purpose.
[19:32] <MeMeMe> my bad, its the third edition. The specs on the website say: Bluetooth® 4.0, 802.11 A/C WiFi
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Sparchitect  then use server, but mind: it's an installer, not a live session
[19:32] <sirsomewhatFancy> Sparchitect, if you want a desktop-less install, that's what you should go for. Be prepared to switch back though ;)
[19:33] <dannato> is intel but is very old 2007
[19:33] <dannato> the problem is that is old maybe
[19:33] <rypervenche> MeMeMe: The command that I sent you will give us the information we need to proceed. :)
[19:33] <sirsomewhatFancy> MeMeMe, That still doesn't answer the question too well. In each generation, there are many sub models. They all have 802.11 A/C, etc. If you can find the exact model number of the card, that would be very helpful. Again, like rypervenche said, run sudo lspci -nn | grep Network in a terminal, and paste the output here and we can help.
[19:34] <Sparchitect> MonkeyDust & sirsomewhatFancy: Bah, okay cool, I'm going with desktop then ;] thanks again!
[19:34] <ioria> MeMeMe, you have to run sudo lcpci -nn | grep Network in terminal and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com  and give us the url
[19:34] <sirsomewhatFancy> dannato: it just sounds out of date. Sometimes a lighter system helps, like using lubuntu instead of Xubuntu. I know that this is an Ubuntu discussion, but that computer may need Puppy Linux or something similar to run smoothly with video.
[19:36] <anonymous> hello
[19:37] <sirsomewhatFancy> Switching to laptop, now somefancy!
[19:37] <anonymous> hey friends
[19:37] <anonymous> can anyone tell me how to hack emails
[19:37] <MeMeMe> 02:00.0 Netwrok controller {0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:003e] (rev 20)
[19:37] <rawm> lol
[19:37] <dannato> so the problem is not player but my hold system?
[19:37] <rawm> 685*-
[19:37] <DJones> anonymous: No
[19:37] <dannato> thank you soo much
[19:38] <somefancy> dannato: I think it is. Sorry
[19:38] <dannato> puppy linux??
[19:38] <dannato> who is?
[19:38] <anonymous> ok  then can anyone tell me about how to hack a website
[19:38] <rawm> anonymous, tell me your password and ill show you how to hack
[19:38] <somefancy> dannato: Puppy Linux is another linux distrubution. The whole thing fits into about 200 megabytes and is extremely efficent on older hardware.
[19:38] <bubbasaures> anonymous, Say hello to the NSA as you ask this, and break the channel topic.
[19:39] <dannato> thank you good evening soo much
[19:40] <somefancy> dannato: I am running it right now on an '03 Dell Inspiron 6000 and it is a big speed boost for those older ones big distros can't do. That said, it's confusing and not best for someone inexperienced. So, if you are not comefortable reading the text on screen for a while, stick with Ubuntu stuff!
[19:40] <teward> is there an easy way to tell what init system is in place, whether it's sysvinit, systemd, or upstart, on a system in a one-liner?
[19:40] <somefancy> dannato: but yes, all the instructions are on screen usually.
[19:40] <somefancy> teward: look at how to enable and disable services. They all do this differently.
[19:41] <rawm> @anonymous Seriously, if you want to learn how to "hack" no one has the time to do all that. Thats quite a huge order your placing. Buy some books or take some classes.
[19:42] <teward> somefancy: that's not why i need to know?
[19:42] <teward> somefancy: i need to know for a system info gathering script, not to manage services
[19:43] <BBLLCC> can anyone please check if this looks fine. And, what do I do with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843367/
[19:43] <somefancy> teward: each of these has their own system for services. Checking which one will tell you which init scripts you are using and the like which tells you whether you are using systemd, upstart, etc.
[19:44] <ioria> teward    something like this ? ps -p1 | grep systemd && echo systemd || echo upstart
[19:45] <somefancy> ioria teward that looks good, but it will not work if there's sysvinit because it doesn't check for that.
[19:45] <somefancy> ioria teward that is almost it, but it would call that upstart.
[19:45] <ioria> just add it :-)
[19:45] <Bashing-om> teward: Maybe something like ' ps -p1 | grep systemd && echo systemd || echo upstart ' ?
[19:46] <somefancy> ioria, unfortunately I don't quite know how systemv works.
[19:46] <teward> somefancy: if theres nothing returned from the command, then its safe to assume sysvinit
[19:46] <teward> i think
[19:46] <ioria> teward    something like this ? ps -p1 | grep systemd && echo systemd || echo upstart || echo something else
[19:46] <somefancy> Bashing-om, already suggested.
[19:46] <Bashing-om> somefancy: Yeah, I slow on the uptake. yuk .
[19:46] <somefancy> teward, if it's not systemd, it says upstart. The or will not work without another test.
[19:47] <Phil> hi
[19:47] <Phil> chmod: cannot access `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': No such file or directory
[19:47] <somefancy> Bashing-om, that's ok.
[19:47] <Phil> thas my problem , chmod: cannot access `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': No such file or directory
[19:47] <Guest37522> my problem is , chmod: cannot access `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': No such file or directory
[19:47] <somefancy> Phil, check that it is there
[19:47] <cryptodan_laptop> Guest37522: can you go there and see if that file even exists
[19:47] <Guest37522> it doenst exist
[19:48] <Guest37522> i wanna create it
[19:48] <Guest37522> im admin but it doesnt make me able to create it
[19:48] <teward> ioria: somefancy: that's allllllmost it, but systemd has an extra line of output
[19:48] <somefancy> Guest37522 you need to have a file there. Use nano or leafpad or gedit.
[19:48] <ioria> ouch
[19:48] <teward> (the ps output still shows up)
[19:48] <OerHeks> sudo touch /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules && ls -la /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[19:48] <somefancy> Guest37522, at the very least just use touch
[19:49] <Guest37522> thnx
[19:49] <somefancy> Like OerHeks just suggested. Thanks.
[19:49] <somefancy> There is a way to do this teward ioria
[19:50] <somefancy> how do you difinitively check for just systemv? (teward, ioria)
[19:50] <somefancy> ioria Once you have that, just add it to the first or.
[19:51] <somefancy> ioria being right after the first || I mean.
[19:51] <BBLLCC> help
[19:51] <BBLLCC> /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[19:51] <somefancy> BBLLCC if you can boot, run update-grub
[19:51] <somefancy> BBLLCC, sorry, try sudo update-grub
[19:51] <Guest37522> im gonna write this row to that file now  : SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="054c", MODE="0666"
[19:51] <Guest37522> how do i do?
[19:51] <BBLLCC> somefancy, that prompted the error
[19:52] <somefancy> BBLLCC what conf files do you have grub using?
[19:52] <somefancy> BBLLCC if it uses anything unusual in the custom file or something it will do that kind of thing. Make sure that it has all its files formatted right.
[19:52] <Guest37522>  /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[19:52] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ?
[19:52] <BBLLCC> somefancy,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843367/
[19:53] <ioria> teward    maybe this : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18209/detect-init-system-using-the-shell
[19:53] <ioria> somefancy, [[ -f /etc/init.d/cron && ! -h /etc/init.d/cron ]] && echo yes
[19:54] <ioria> somefancy, this for system V
[19:55] <bbroadstone> is sirsomewhatFancy still around?
[19:55] <somefancy> ps -p1 | grep systemd && echo systemd || [[ -f /etc/init.d/cron && ! -h /etc/init.d/cron ]] && echo yes || echo upstart
[19:55] <somefancy> might do it.
[19:55] <somefancy> bbroadstone that's me, switched to laptop
[19:55] <bbroadstone> ah k k
[19:55] <ioria> yep
[19:56] <Guest37522> somefancy , /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[19:56] <teward> somefancy: ehh, not important anymore, i'll find some way to succeed.  in the current case with that code it prints the ps output, 'systemd', and 'yes', so ehh
[19:56] <teward> irrelevant now.
[19:56] <Guest37522> how do i write to the file?
[19:57] <somefancy> Guest37522, what do you intend to do here?
[19:58] <OerHeks> Guest37522, that is easy >> sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[19:58] <Guest37522> i intend to SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="054c", MODE="0666"
[19:58] <Guest37522> somefancy i wanna write this line of code in the file , SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="054c", MODE="0666"
[19:59] <Guest37522> only that simple line of code , SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="054c", MODE="0666"
[19:59] <eb0t> you can just open the file and write it using vim
[19:59] <Guest37522> how im neewbie
[19:59] <Guest37522> HOW? , Im a neewbie
[19:59] <somefancy> Guest37522, nano /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules and type that line
[19:59] <somefancy> in a terminal
[19:59] <Guest37522> tnhx
[19:59] <somefancy> using sudo before that.
[19:59] <eb0t> vi /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[20:00] <eb0t> do su first
[20:00] <somefancy> vi works too, but it's not good for beginners neccesarily.
[20:00] <eb0t> switch user to root
[20:00] <eb0t> then enter root password
[20:00] <eb0t> the vi ..........................
[20:00] <somefancy> eb0t su doesn't work in ubuntu. use sudo bash
[20:00] <eb0t> ah ok
[20:00] <bekks> eb0t: BY default, Ubuntu has no root password.
[20:00] <eb0t> why
[20:00] <somefancy> eb0t, there's a better way than that with sudo but I can't remember it.
[20:00] <bekks> !root | eb0t
[20:00] <eb0t> then do sudo vi .....................................
[20:00] <somefancy> eb0t to protect the account. No one password to rule them all.
[20:01] <eb0t> on my system im always in root
[20:01] <somefancy> eb0t you can create one if you really feel you need to with sudo passwd root
[20:01] <Taz3r> boot on grub and change root password
[20:01] <eb0t> how could i get anything done if i wasnt
[20:01] <somefancy> eb0t like mine! puppy linux
[20:01] <bekks> eb0t: Which can be safely considered as bad habbit.
[20:01] <eb0t> not a bad habbit
[20:01] <eb0t> its just easy to get stuff done by switching to root
[20:02] <eb0t> and then you can exit after
[20:02] <bubbasaures> lol
[20:02] <bekks> You dont need root for your daily work.
[20:02] <eb0t> i do
[20:02] <somefancy> eb0t yes, just be careful with internet apps. There is wisdom to puppy's run-as-spot command.
[20:02] <bekks> No one does.
[20:02] <somefancy> I do too.
[20:02] <eb0t> lots of us do
[20:02] <bbroadstone> somefancy, it's funny, I was about to ask you all sorts of dumb questions here, but as I approached hitting enter something made me figure it out on my own
[20:02] <somefancy> I do a lot of formatting and partitioning work in administrating and repairing friends' computers almost daily.
[20:02] <bbroadstone> heh
[20:03] <bekks> eb0t: Which still is  discouraged, especially for newbies.
[20:03] <somefancy> bbroadstone, Good! good luck!
[20:03] <eb0t> cool
[20:03] <bbroadstone> ty
[20:03] <bbroadstone> but you helped me out too so thanks!
[20:03] <eb0t> newbies should live in root and learn all the stuff you can do
[20:03] <bekks> newbies should NOT live in root.
[20:03] <eb0t> even if it messes their system up they can reinstall and go again
[20:03] <eb0t> thats how you learn
[20:03] <bekks> eb0t: This isnt Windows.
[20:04] <eb0t> well its pretty close
[20:04] <Tex_Nick> lol
[20:04] <bekks> eb0t: You dont learn to not shoot your feet by shooting them.
[20:04] <eb0t> ubuntu is pretty darn close to windows
[20:04] <somefancy> eb0t not true. I broke my system so many times with admin in ubuntu years ago you don't even want to know. My dad hated me for it because he knew how to reinstall and didn't trust me with that power on the family pc.
[20:04] <eb0t> because you should use a proper distro
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> eb0t  yes, if you run everything as root
[20:04] <eb0t> not a windows like distro
[20:04] <bekks> eb0t: So dont use root, and you dont have a Windows like distro.
[20:05] <eb0t> no i dont have a windows like distro
[20:05] <eb0t> and i run root every day
[20:05] <eb0t> at times
[20:05] <somefancy> I find Windows' auth thingy to be wierd. They focus on a smooth desktop, then the whole screen goes black whenever something needs permission for a split second! better to do that in boot then in the desktop like Linux
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> eb0t  great, but stick to support questions here
[20:05] <eb0t> why
[20:05] <eb0t> the guy wants to know what to do
[20:05] <bekks> somefancy: You can easily disable that, but thats for out of support in here.
[20:05] <somefancy> eb0t it is a support forum.
[20:05] <julian-delphiki> eb0t: you're being a bit spammy. This is the ubuntu support channel.
[20:05] <eb0t> and he needs root
[20:05] <davidmichaelkarr> Still trying to figure out "virt-install".  I finally constructed what I think is a valid command line, but it just sits there. It's been "working" for 20 minutes or so now, with no obvious results.
[20:06] <davidmichaelkarr> Here's what I see so far:
[20:06] <davidmichaelkarr> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Om5qVNQ2/
[20:06] <bekks> eb0t: And he already was told how to solve his issue.
[20:06] <eb0t> you guys get upset because you are not safe in root
[20:06] <julian-delphiki> eb0t: please stick to support questions and answers. And try to keep your comments as a single line, rather than using enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> eb0t  we're used to attacks, don't worry... now go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:07] <eb0t> im not worried
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> eb0t  stop
[20:08] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ?
[20:10] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I'm back from dinner now. Your edit has unbalanced double-quotes. I think it needs to be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_os_name='Windows 2001.1'  "  - notice the *single* quotes surrounding the text because it contains a space
[20:11] <shadow2555> hi
[20:11] <eb0t> hi
[20:11] <shadow2555> is anyone on
[20:11] <eb0t> how can i help you
[20:12] <bubbasaures> about 1700
[20:12] <TJ-> BBLLCC: However, it may need to be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="  'acpi_os_name=Windows 2001.1'  "  - the quotes surround the entire option here... this may be the way the kernel needs to see it, since it reads its command line and splits arguments at spaces. Without the quotes the command would be seen as 2 separate arguments
[20:12] <somefancy> shadow2555, what's your trouble?
[20:12] <somefancy> Just as he quits. Sorry all
[20:14] <BBLLCC> TJ-, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_os_name='Windows 2001.1'" << did the thing thanks a lot again!!!
[20:15] <BBLLCC> TJ-,  do I need to get rid of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" ?
[20:15] <AqD> does everyone have issue with nvidia properietary driver in 15.04? first I have to add a boot option to disable fb, and then it seems much slower than nouveau when compiz is on
[20:16] <TJ-> BBLLCC: no, the two are combined by update-grub  ... the latter one is for additional options for the GUI boot entry that don't get added to the Recovery option
[20:16] <AqD> games run fine with it though, but vdpau sucks too
[20:16] <BBLLCC> ok, thx
[20:16] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Are you saying that the setting has fixed your shutdown power-off issue?
[20:16] <somefancy> AqD this depends on your video card. Are you using AMD?
[20:16] <BBLLCC> TJ-, adding that to GRUB worked. Now Im gonna check if permanently adding it to etc/default/grub works
[20:17] <somefancy> AqD Sorry, stupid question.
[20:17] <AqD> somefancy: it's gtx 760, shouldn't have problem :(
[20:17] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Oh fantastic - I'm so pleased, because solving this kind of issue is usually a BIG long frustrating job!
[20:17] <AqD> is there an alternative compositor to compiz & unity? should I use kde or xfce instead?
[20:18] <somefancy> AqD do you have a problem with the oss drivers? I like NVidia's drivers generally, but I don't have any cards on hand.
[20:18] <somefancy> AqD Try kubuntu-desktop, it's a full desktop environment
[20:18] <AqD> somefancy, not really but nvidia's driver had always been reliable and fast
[20:19] <AqD> somefancy, can I just switch to kde on ubuntu, without having to install  kubuntu??
[20:19] <somefancy> AqD That will install the base apps too and ubuntu optimizations for Kubuntu. And the reliable and fast argument is true. Maybe they just haven't updated it yet? I'm using 14.04 for oss support of my AMD HD 4700, maybe that is your best option too?
[20:19] <somefancy> AqD look for a package called kubuntu-desktop and install it. This will leave your system intact and install KDE.
[20:20] <AqD> I see! thx!
[20:20] <TJ-> AqD: if it seems slower are you positive the nvidia driver is actually in use, rather than software rendering? "glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'  " should tell you
[20:20]  * AqD bought nvidia card for linux........
[20:20] <AqD> TJ-, yes
[20:20] <TJ-> AqD: are you using the nvidia-340 series driver?
[20:20] <AqD> TJ-, and games run fast, vdpau is also on though it's slow (high cpu usage)
[20:20] <AqD> TJ-, yes
[20:21] <somefancy> AqD it sounds like TJ- is the one to ask about this. sorry I couldn't help more, but my experience with video cards is sparse!
[20:21] <TJ-> AqD: very strange... is that the only GPU in the system?
[20:21] <AqD> sure
[20:21] <TJ-> AqD: I'd be interested to see a couple of logs from that system; "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:26] <AqD> TJ-, xorg.log => http://pastebin.com/egHvYB6F
[20:30] <AqD> TJ-, and my kern.log => http://pastebin.com/eNGmxjRz
[20:30] <AqD> nothing special, DRM is on
[20:30] <AqD> wait do I need special group for my user to use DRM and vdpau??
[20:31] <TJ-> AqD: from Xorg.0.log this is not good: "(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory"  ... any entry with "(EE)" means ERROR, any with "(WW)" means warning.
[20:31] <BBLLCC> TJ-, your edit works fine
[20:31] <BBLLCC> with the new quotes i mean
[20:31] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Oh fantastic - I'm so pleased, because solving this kind of issue is usually a BIG long frustrating job!
[20:32] <BBLLCC> yes, 2 hours aint it?
[20:32] <AqD> TJ-, fb is disabled because my linux would freeze otherwise
[20:32] <BBLLCC> thanks TJ-
[20:32] <guest5000> hi
[20:32] <guest5000> i have a sony xperia tipo  i wanna connect to aubuntu
[20:33] <guest5000> how do i do it?
[20:33] <guest5000> my os  dosnt find my phone
[20:33] <somefancy> guest5000, Do you mean over bluetooth?
[20:34] <guest5000> no usb
[20:34] <somefancy> guest5000, is your phone unlocked?
[20:34] <guest5000> yes
[20:34] <somefancy> guest5000, how many devices show up?
[20:34] <TJ-> AqD: Ahhh, yes, there are some issues with FB and the nvidia driver in later releases
[20:34] <guest5000> no device
[20:35] <somefancy> guest5000 is usb turned on in the phone?
[20:35] <guest5000> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/35366/not-able-to-connect-xperia-tipo-to-ubuntu
[20:35] <guest5000> ive tryed this link
[20:35] <guest5000> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/35366/not-able-to-connect-xperia-tipo-to-ubuntu
[20:35] <TJ-> AqD: what does "vdpauinfo" report ?
[20:35] <OGGOP> People, is there a way to initiate USb tether from the Ubuntu computer to my Android phone instead of starting it from my phone all the time?
[20:36] <guest5000> dosnt work for me.
[20:36] <guest5000> that site
[20:36] <somefancy> guest5000, Weeeell, my moto x has no trouble so this doesn't look like an android problem.
[20:36] <AqD> TJ-, it lists nvidia and capabilities etc
[20:36] <somefancy> guest5000 we'll figure this out, just gimme a sec.
[20:37] <AqD> TJ-, from my own non-root user
[20:37] <pushpop> is there any real time web graphical interfaces that allow you to monitor network traffic real time?
[20:37] <guest5000> thnx somefancy
[20:37] <pushpop> can't find any good ones
[20:38] <TJ-> AqD: that's fine. If you have high CPU it means the VDPAU isn't being used. That means either 1) the player software is not using VDPAU, or 2) the video is encoded with some algorithm that the VDPAU interface doesn't support. Fro that, check the "Decoder capabilities" section
[20:39] <somefancy> guest5000, try changing the usb mode. It should be in the drop-down menu of the storage settings.
[20:40] <guest5000> have tryed that on the phone you mean?
[20:40] <somefancy> guest5000, Yes.
[20:40] <guest5000> have done that
[20:40] <somefancy> guest5000, what modes are available?
[20:40] <django_> Hello all any of you put ubuntu on an acer aspire M ?
[20:40] <guest5000> cant see the phone in my home folder
[20:41] <somefancy> guest5000 look in the sidebar of your file manager. It should say something wildly generic like "Androd" or something.
[20:41] <guest5000> MTP and MSC
[20:41] <somefancy> guest5000 the home folder is usually not where that shows up. Try MSC.
[20:41] <TJ-> AqD if the problem is that videos are decoded using VDPAU (test with vlc) but the system compositor isn't using VDPAU then there's some configuration option or system-settings disabling it
[20:42] <guest5000> I dont have any specific file manager
[20:42] <somefancy> guest5000 MTP is Media Transfer Protocol, which is designed for advanced computers to interface with a pc without the need to safely eject. MSC is Mass Storage Card, which trys to emulate a flash drive as closely as possible. If one doesn't work, try the other.
[20:42] <somefancy> guest5000 I would try looking for the device to mount. Set your device to MSC. MTP doesn't work without a file manager.
[20:43] <guest5000> what file manager
[20:43] <guest5000> maybe i should download a file manager?
[20:44] <somefancy> you could use dolphin, nautilus, pcmanfm, thunar, etc. etc. Stock ubuntu comes with Nautilus pre installed. Kubuntu uses dolphin, Xubuntu uses Thunar, Lubuntu uses PCManFm and Ubuntu GNOME also uses nautilus.
[20:44] <carif> what is the username and password for the 15.04 ubuntu snappy image? ubuntu/ubuntu doesn't work as documented
[20:44] <SchrodingersScat> guest5000: if you're in ubuntu, I think it's still nautilus
[20:44] <somefancy> guest5000 do you have a desktop?
[20:44] <somefancy> guest5000 as in not command line?
[20:45] <guest5000> yes
[20:45] <somefancy> carif try ubuntu with no password. That's on the live image anyhow.
[20:45] <guest5000> but i have no file manager installed
[20:45] <somefancy> guest5000 you will need a file manager.
[20:45] <guest5000> could be the problem :D
[20:46] <somefancy> guest5000 unless you know how to manually mount MSC devices, yes :)
[20:46] <carif> somefancy, ty, tried it, no luck, also 'password' and 'passw0rd'
[20:46] <somefancy> carif are you on the live cd?
[20:47] <ScottyK> Greetings! what are the recommended specs for 15.04? I have an old HP with an Athlon 64, 2.5 GB RAM and a GeForce 8500 GT
[20:47] <somefancy> ScottyK chances are you are good.
[20:47] <somefancy> ScottyK almost nothing within the last 8 years won't run Ubuntu.
[20:47] <carif> somefancy,  no, kvm as per directions at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/
[20:48] <ScottyK> Ok thanks. Not planning on playing latest games, but it's a machine I use to test out Ubuntu!
[20:48] <somefancy> ScottyK yes!
[20:48] <somefancy> carif I am checking that page now.
[20:48] <guest5000> have a file manager doesnt make any diffenrece
[20:48] <carif> somefancy, "For this preview release we have hardcoded a user "ubuntu" with password "ubuntu". "
[20:48] <guest5000> how do i mount MSC devices
[20:48] <guest5000> somefancy
[20:49] <somefancy> guest5000 this sounds like a big problem with that model. I'm sorry but I don't think I have any other information for you without actually seeing the setup! :(
[20:49] <guest5000> ok
[20:49] <somefancy> guest5000 if you know the /dev/sdx# nomenclature then you use the mount command.
[20:49] <guest5000> pitty for me
[20:49] <BrianH> Hey guys.  I'm trying to optimize unity for a touch screen environment.  Any way I can hide the launcher and use a swipe gesture from the side to reveal it?
[20:49] <somefancy> guest5000 mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/newfolderhere is the syntax
[20:50] <BrianH> unity-tweak-tool lets me hide it, but I have to push the mouse to the edge to reveal it.  Not practical with a touch screen.  Is there something different I can do?
[20:51] <somefancy> carif this sounds like a bad install. Without having ever tried Snappy I can't tell you what to do next but if you don't have anything in there, try reinstalling? again, not familiar with the procedure yet.
[20:51] <TJ-> carif: could the password be empty?
[20:51] <carif> somefancy, sure, I'll try downloading a new image and try again
[20:52] <somefancy> BrianH unfortunately, I don't think so. Ubuntu was originally made with the end of making it touch friendly, but that doesn't provide any more provisions than what's in CCSM. Sorry!
[20:52] <somefancy> BrianH or Unity Tweak Tool, that is essentially the same as using CCSM.
[20:53] <BrianH> somefancy, just figured it out.  4 finger swipe will open it.
[20:54] <BrianH> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch ... cool stuff! :)
[20:54] <somefancy> BrianH Cool! I don't have a touchscreen computer, but I have one in the mail, that's really good to know!
[20:54] <carif> somefancy, you rule
[20:55] <guest5000> somefancy
[20:55] <guest5000> I need to sleep somefancy
[20:55] <somefancy> carif So is the problem solved?
[20:55] <guest5000> ill be back tomorrow
[20:55] <guest5000> have   a nice evening
[20:55] <somefancy> guest5000 feel free! I can't guarantee I will be back though.
[20:55] <somefancy> guest5000 you too now.
[20:55] <guest5000> do you have facebook?
[20:56] <guest5000> i could add you
[20:56] <carif> somefancy, yes. redid the directions at the referenced page (download, unxs, kvm) and now the creds work. will try to ssh in next
[20:56] <somefancy> guest5000 this is a support forum, for small talk, there actually is a channel called #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:56]  * carif bows to somefancy
[20:56] <guest5000> ok
[20:56] <somefancy> carif Wow that was fast! Great! (Bows Back) glad to be of assistance!
[20:59] <BrianH> I just have this repurposed Toshiba touch screen laptop that I'm turning into a kitchen system.  Coding up a basic recipe book, grocery list, etc. that my wife and I can use.  Should turn out pretty slick once it's done.
[21:00] <somefancy> BrianH I look forward to reading about this in a blog post I may or may not stumble accross!
[21:01] <BrianH> Perhaps.  It'll be a while before I post anything, the laptop is mostly in pieces right now, haha.
[21:02] <BrianH> Ordering some plexiglass to build a custom enclosure for it, and a cheap monitor arm.
[21:02] <daftykins> lets try and keep it support only, people :)
[21:02] <somefancy> sorry
[21:06] <drfoobaz> Anyone know how to disable that ~/Pictures/Wallpapers/ folder that is automatically filled when you set a wallpaper from Nautilus?
[21:09] <gagalicious> can deskop users use ldap server for login in?
[21:10] <bekks> gagalicious: Sure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[21:10] <gagalicious> ok
[21:14] <bishops> Hi all, I trying to solve a headache of a problem, my webcam and one of my usb port stopped working ever since I've reinstalled ubuntu 14.04 (it was installed before and everything perfectly working) on my laptop. I tried to boot from usb and all works perfectly so there is something wrong with the way my current system detects these ports. any ideas of how to get the system to recognize them?
[21:14] <bubbasaures> bishops, Try the guest account now, you have tried the live everything worked, include that info.
[21:15] <bishops> bubbasaures: ok will try now.
[21:16] <bishops> bubbasaures: well in guest account it does not recognize webcam also
[21:17] <daftykins> bishops: also try powering off, removing the mains + battery, holding the power button for 10 seconds in this state, then powering back up after putting the battery back in
[21:18] <bishops> daftykins: the battery is built-in. what do you mean by "mains"?
[21:18] <daftykins> mains power... outlet power... the place what the sparky stuff comes from!
[21:18] <daftykins> some of those laptops have a pin insert to detach the battery temporarily
[21:19]  * bubbasaures grounds themselves
[21:19] <bishops> daftykins: you  think the problem could come from there?
[21:19] <pperanzola_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER pperanzola_ hezybvnocoej
[21:19] <daftykins> bishops: well it doesn't cost much to try
[21:19] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo
[21:19] <daftykins> pperanzola_: use your status window in future :)
[21:19] <Jordan_U> pperanzola_: Change your password now.
[21:19] <lukscurse> Someone please explain to me why this setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11843984/ doesn't request a password for /dev/sdd2 (/tmp) on boot, but some how magically decrypts it and mounts it just fine without one?
[21:20] <daftykins> no you're all wrong as usual - it's a verification link not a password.
[21:20] <bishops> daftykins: the only way i can remove this battery I think will involve a screwdriver and opening to motherboard...
[21:20] <pperanzola_> :)
[21:20] <TJ-> bishops: I'd check "/var/log/dmesg" when it fails to recognise the camera; there's a probably a driver or firmware problem
[21:20] <bubbasaures> pperanzola_, no space
[21:20] <daftykins> bishops: see what i said about a paperclip/pin insert? or try checking the product manual.
[21:20] <savino__> not smart dude people can see you passwd
[21:21] <bishops> TJ-: how to check? when I launch my system from usb with ubuntu on it camera works
[21:21] <bishops> daftykins: sorry but I'm not sure I understand how to do that
[21:21] <TJ-> bishops: boot the PC normally, if the camera isn't working, show us the log wilth "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[21:21] <daftykins> bishops: look up the manual.
[21:22] <bishops> daftykins: What manual? I've had this laptop for 3 years..
[21:22] <TJ-> lukscurse: I bet you're using the same LUKS passphrase on multiple volumes, and another volume has already been decrypted using it. It was cached for reuse
[21:22] <bubbasaures> bishops, Manuals are onpine
[21:22] <bubbasaures> on line*
[21:22] <bishops> daftykins: meaning that I'm not sure I'll find the manual :)
[21:23] <bishops> ok I'll try TJ- 's suggestion first..
[21:23] <lukscurse> TJ-: really, it has a cache like that?
[21:23] <daftykins> bishops: it'll be on the manufacturer site fine if you look hard enough
[21:23] <zub> Hi. I'm reporting a bug in 15.4. After upgrade something broke. Should I add "regression-update" or some other tag to the report? Or should I just not add it and leave it to those who understand it?
[21:23] <bishops> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11844007/
[21:23] <lukscurse> TJ-: that's a new one to me, cause on arch when i set up drives like this it requested each time even though it was the same pass
[21:24] <lukscurse> TJ-: is that an ubuntu thing or what?
[21:24] <TJ-> lukscurse: if you're prompted for the passphrase during startup, I'd guess possibly twice? (once in the initrd to mount the root-FS, and possibly again for the first of the other volumes).
[21:24] <lukscurse> TJ-:  yeah root and sdd2 have the same encryption algorithm, key size, and pass phrase
[21:25] <savino__> not smart dude people can see you passwd
[21:25] <CryptoSiD> Hi, I have a weird problem!!! I installed kubuntu-plasma5-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso using a usb disk, it booted fine, 0 problem, but after installation im unable to boot the ubuntu on my disk, nor to boot the usb key anymore?!
[21:25] <CryptoSiD> Starting uuid generator uuidd /etc/rc2.d/S02sddm: 4 ,: Can't open /lib/init/init-d-script saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
[21:25] <CryptoSiD> im seeing this
[21:25] <savino__> oeps error sorry
[21:26] <bishops> daftykins: ok just watched a video on how to remove the battery. it involves a screw driver as I thought it would :)
[21:26] <Jordan_U> CryptoSiD: Why were you installing 14.10 instead of 15.04?
[21:26] <bubbasaures> zub, I would let them tag it probably
[21:26] <lukscurse> TJ-: here's my second issue... if i uncomment the lines for sdd1 in crypttab and fstab there in my paste, when i reboot the screen flickers a few times and says it can't load the graphics or some such issue, and i have to boot to the live cd and mount root and comment them back. any idea what's causing that?
[21:26] <daftykins> bishops: ok but i didn't really suggest that, so - i am not to blame ^_^
[21:26] <OerHeks> 14.10 will go EOL this month
[21:26] <zub> bubbasaures: m'kay, thx
[21:26] <daftykins> yay death to 14.10 \o/
[21:26] <bishops> daftykins: haha no i'm not blaming!
[21:27] <CryptoSiD> Jordan_U cause im unable to find 15.04 with kde 5?
[21:27] <bishops> daftykins: but can someone check the pastebinit of /var/log/dmesg to see if there is something wrong with drivers or if it tells us anything about these ports?
[21:27] <lukscurse> TJ-: it's for /var, but i also live cd'ed in chrooted and cp -r'ed all the stuff over to the encrypted part and reenabled it and it does the same thing
[21:28] <daftykins> bishops: did you paste one yet?
[21:28] <CryptoSiD> ok got it:D
[21:28] <CryptoSiD> gonna try
[21:28] <lukscurse> TJ-:  i rm -rf'ed the encrypted /var mount first
[21:28] <bishops> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11844007/
[21:29] <CryptoSiD> kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso this is with kde plasma 5 by default right?
[21:29] <CryptoSiD> no need to update?
[21:29] <TJ-> lukscurse: There are known mount races with cryptdisks-udev
[21:29] <bekks> CryptoSiD: Of course you should run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade;
[21:29] <OerHeks> Kubuntu 15.04 comes with Plasma 5.2.
[21:29] <lukscurse> TJ-: how do i try to fix it?
[21:29] <TJ-> lukscurse: I have a couple of encrypted LVM VGs, and so I don't need individual LVs/fil-systems unlocking
[21:30] <CryptoSiD> great
[21:30] <CryptoSiD> 5.3 i think:)
[21:30] <OerHeks> after update, yes.
[21:30] <CryptoSiD> whatever as long as its plasma 5.? im happy
[21:30] <savino__> oeps error sorry
[21:30] <CryptoSiD> great hope it'll work with 15.04
[21:30] <lukscurse> TJ-: so if i had an lvm luks for root and another for /tmp and var together, this probably wouldn't be occuring?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> CryptoSiD: Then please see if you can successfully boot from a Kubuntu 15.04 LiveUSB, and if you can then you might as well just install 15.04 from there.
[21:31] <OerHeks> CryptoSiD, there is also #kubuntu here on freenode :-)
[21:32] <daftykins> bishops: hmm i bet you get a little stall at boot with error messages instead of a rapid boot huh?
[21:32] <TJ-> lukscurse: that kind of config, yes. You'd need to look at the cryptsetup cryptdisk init scripts to understand the precise mechanics of the startup. The main thing to remember is that 'mountall' launches many parallel processes to do all the mounts, and that is where the race comes in (this is done to speed up boot-times)
[21:32] <bishops> daftykins: possible why?
[21:33] <daftykins> bishops: i just saw the errors in the dmesg log is all, easily rectified. USB issues at line 678
[21:33] <lukscurse> TJ-: thanks for the help
[21:33] <bishops> daftykins: oh really what to do
[21:33] <daftykins> bishops: which model Lenovo is this? can you visit the site and check for EFI/BIOS updates? it says you're on v22.31
[21:33] <daftykins> *v2.31
[21:34] <daftykins> or 2.56
[21:34] <bishops> daftykins: but how do we explain that it works if i boot from usb?
[21:35] <daftykins> bishops: older kernel
[21:35] <daftykins> you've no doubt updated since
[21:35] <TJ-> bishops: there a a few PCI bus device errors there preventing some devices from initialising. I'd guess one of the is the USb controller the camera is connected to
[21:36] <daftykins> bishops: in fact make sure you've done a good dist-upgrade
[21:36] <TJ-> bishops: you've added manual options to the kernel command-line that is interferring: "pcie_aspm=force acpi=noirq "
[21:36] <TJ-> daftykins:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[21:37] <bishops> TJ-: ooh how to change that
[21:37] <TJ-> bishops: "acpi=noirg" is probably the big problem
[21:37] <bishops> daftykins: can you explain more about bios update and kernel?
[21:37] <daftykins> TJ-: ah good spot, i should've seen that
[21:37] <bishops> TJ-: how to change that? I did fiddle with the bios at some point i remember, but just to get the usb to be bootable
[21:37] <TJ-> bishops: Remove that option from "/etc/default/grub" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and then "sudo update-grub"
[21:38] <daftykins> why not remove them as a one time boot test to start with
[21:38] <daftykins> might be a reason they're there
[21:38] <bishops> TJ-: i just delete it you mean?
[21:38] <TJ-> bishops: No,you remove "acpi=noirq " from where-ever you have set it in that file
[21:39] <bishops> TJ-: please can you type explicitly how to do it in terms of command lines? I'm really an amateur in this..
[21:39] <bishops> TJ-: oh in the file it says at some point "acpi=noirq quiet"
[21:39] <TJ-> bishops: you can also remove "i915.i915_enable_rc6=1" seeing as the i915 driver doesn't support that option: "[    2.637241] i915: unknown parameter 'i915_enable_rc6' ignored"
[21:40] <bishops> TJ-: should i delete these sentences? how to proceed?
[21:40] <TJ-> bishops: remove those options only, nothing else
[21:41] <bishops> TJ-: the line says: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 pcie_aspm=force acpi=noirq quiet splash"
[21:41] <bishops> TJ-: should i just erase i915 etc and acpi=noirq ?
[21:41] <TJ-> bishops: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" pcie_aspm=force quiet splash"
[21:42] <TJ-> bishops: Not sure if you need ASPM forcing but I assume you put it there for a good reason :)
[21:42] <bishops> TJ-: no i haven't put anything anywhere! :) should i remove?
[21:42] <TJ-> bishops: Well, those options don't get added automatically
[21:42] <bishops> TJ-: did all this get into this file because I fiddled with the bios you think?
[21:43] <TJ-> bishops: No, the file has to be edited to add them
[21:43] <bishops> TJ-: ooooh i know when i put those. some forum told me it's good for battery life
[21:43] <TJ-> bishops: users!! :P
[21:44] <TJ-> bishops: after you've saved the file do "sudo update-grub" and then it should be fixed
[21:44] <daftykins> makes me wonder how the install got done with those parameters
[21:44] <daftykins> followed a bad guide perhaps?
[21:45] <bishops> TJ-: so should i remove also quiet splash?
[21:45] <bishops> TJ-: maybe quiet splash can help with battery life? :)
[21:45] <TJ-> bishops: No! only remove the settings I told oyu to
[21:46] <bishops> TJ-: but you weren't sure about pcie_aspm=force, should i remove it too?
[21:47] <TJ-> bishops: That option is forcing the kernel to use PCI Active State Power Management - I'm guessing you have that to help with battery life
[21:47] <bishops> TJ-: ok so keep?
[21:47] <TJ-> bishops: Yes. If the current changes don't cure the missing camera issue you can remove that setting later and try the camera again
[21:48] <bishops> TJ-: ok will restart the system as camera still not working
[21:49] <TJ-> bishops: The kernel will use ASPM if the hardware claims to support it, so by forcing it in some circumstances can cause problems. That means the pcie_aspm *might* be the cause of the missing camera, but is less likely. I'm more confident acpi=noirq is the problem
[21:50] <bishops> TJ-: it worked!
[21:50] <bubbasaures> woot
[21:50] <TJ-> bishops: Yes, I thought it would. No more tinkering without expert advise!
[21:51] <bishops> TJ-: thanks a lot, but can you explain to me what we did in plain english? What were these options in the first place? even my reboot was lightning speed.
[21:52] <bishops> TJ-: and also did these options affect battery life in any way?
[21:53] <TJ-> bishops: IRQ == Interrupt ReQuest ... that is when hardware asks the CPU to do something for it. You disabled that, so some devices couldn't get the CPU to do anything for them
[21:54] <TJ-> bishops: I'd think that could affect battery life because the devices couldn't be put into lower power modes
[21:55] <bishops> TJ-: so the IRQ thing was forcing it to go in lower power modes?
[21:55] <TJ-> bishops: No, probably the opposite
[21:55] <bishops> TJ-: oh interesting, so basically it was sabotage! :0
[21:57] <bishops> TJ-: in any case, thanks a lot for your help!
[22:00] <mekhami> anyone have an idea why, in unity, i can't open my system settings?
[22:03] <bubbasaures> mekhami, You leave yourself to any question with that, can you detail it to us?
[22:04] <mekhami> i click system settings on the toolbar and nothing happens.
[22:04] <mekhami> :)
[22:04] <mekhami> also i no longer have an audio/volume thing on the toolbar either.
[22:05] <bubbasaures> mekhami, What desktop/ubuntu release, and mods that preceed.
[22:05] <mekhami> ➜  ~  unity-control-center
[22:05] <mekhami> zsh: command not found: unity-control-center
[22:05] <mekhami> i'm on ubuntu 14.04
[22:06] <k1l> mekhami: ok, what did you do before that happend?
[22:06] <mekhami> k1l nothing i'm aware of? normal regular system updates?
[22:06] <mekhami> k1l i just installed new RAM but that hardly seems relevant
[22:06] <mekhami> i just ran sudo apt-get install unity-control-center and it's back again
[22:07] <mekhami> no idea how that could have gotten uninstalled though
[22:07] <AvatarA> how come you're running zsh, that's not installed by default
[22:07] <k1l> what is when you use the desktop dash search to search for system settings?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> mekhami: Try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and see what packages it proposes to install (and be careful to look at what packages it might try to remove).
[22:10] <mekhami> AvatarA: because I want to run zsh?  and I've been running it for years?
[22:10] <mekhami> i don't understand the question
[22:11] <mekhami> I didn't say I just did a fresh install of ubuntu and can't open system settings. i just started my computer one day and that functionaltiy was gone. but i just apt-get installed it back. it's odd that it somehow got removed.
[22:11] <Fuchs> mekhami: you could have a look at  /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:11] <daftykins> mekhami: check your APT history log file perhaps
[22:11] <Fuchs> daftykins: y u islanders so slow? ;(
[22:12] <daftykins> Fuchs: that's not very nice.
[22:12]  * bubbasaures thinks of daftykins always as nice, har har
[22:13] <daftykins> err, ok.
[22:13] <dmitru> What do you think about the order button a paid support in the release, which can be placed in the updates, or to make a special application -
[22:13] <dmitru> ssh and remote desktop is already there, left until enable to access them on the vpn connection from the client's consent
[22:14] <daftykins> dmitru: your query both doesn't make sense in English - and does not look appropriate for this channel
[22:14] <bubbasaures> daftykins, Don't take it personally was not meant that way, none of us are always nice, what ever nice means.
[22:14] <AvatarA> man nice
[22:15] <Bl4ckD34th> something new over here?
[22:16] <daftykins> Bl4ckD34th: no idea what your question means, can you clarify?
[22:17] <compdoc> I have new shoes
[22:17] <daftykins> compdoc: do you now run on Ubuntu? ;)
[22:17] <compdoc> lol
[22:19] <Honeyclaw> technohype
[22:19] <Honeyclaw> that's all I have to say.. sorry, just testing
[22:33] <dmitru> daftykins Tomorrow I'll be watching the English film, the reason misunderstandings in verbal revs reducing text.
[22:34] <Blaster> Anyone know how to enable query logging when using PostgreSQL with PDO?
[22:35] <daftykins> dmitru: inappropriate topic for here
[22:36] <Blaster> Also how can I make PDO show exceptions on the webpage?  It's very misleading because it's not even displaying any errors if there's an error in the query, and I have display_errors set to 1.
[22:40] <Bray90820> How would i cp a file with it's inode number
[22:40] <EriC^^> Bray90820: ?
[22:40] <EriC^^> what are you trying to do?
[22:41] <al2o3-cr> Bray90820: find it's inode number and cp
[22:42] <Bray90820> EriC^^, I am trying to take a file that is unreadable because of a bad filename and rename it
[22:43] <EriC^^> Bray90820: did you try mv -- <filename> <newfilename> ?
[22:43] <Bray90820> I did and it is saying no such file or directory
[22:44] <Bray90820> I had this issue before and I had to use it's inode number
[22:44] <Bray90820> But I was doing rm then
[22:44] <gardijne> Hi guys,
[22:44] <gardijne> I have been struggling with this issue for some time and now decided that I need external help.
[22:44] <gardijne> I have a DD-WRT router setup and running. The router is connected to my ISP. The extrnal IP appears under vlan2 when I run ifconfig.
[22:44] <gardijne> In addition to that, I have set up a VPN connection (via PPTP but OpenVPN should also work). It appears on ifconfig as ppp0 with an address such as 10.1.1.1 (this changes frequently, however).
[22:44] <gardijne> The VPN conncts me to a service in a foreign country that I cannot use in my home country. In need this service only at one (and only one) device: my Nintendo Wii U. There is no way to say the Wii to run over VPN.
[22:44] <gardijne> So I need to ROUTE all traffic running from/to a dedicated IP address of the Wii to go through the ppp0.
[22:44] <gardijne> Any idea how to do this? If there is any expert in linux routing around, I am willing to pay his/her effort and then to share the solution.
[22:45] <EriC^^> !info inode-cat | Bray90820 maybe this
[22:46] <EriC^^> Bray90820: http://www.labtestproject.com/linuxcmd/mv.html
[22:46] <EriC^^> renaming based on inode
[22:48] <al2o3-cr> Bray90820: find . -inum <inode> -exec mv {} <new_file_name> \;
[22:52] <Bray90820> Eric^^ http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LSV1YJMF
[22:52] <Bray90820> The fie doesn't seemed to be renamed
[22:53] <EriC^^> Bray90820: try -exec mv '{}'
[22:53] <EriC^^> ( it's mv not move )
[22:55] <al2o3-cr> Bray90820: check the link
[22:55] <dmitru> In 14.04 there are errors when using the usb modems, in 12.04 did not have them
[22:56] <Bray90820> EriC^^, after I changed move to mv it worked
[22:56] <EriC^^> Bray90820: cool
[22:56] <Bray90820> Thanks
[22:57] <EriC^^> Bray90820: no problem :)
[22:58] <al2o3-cr> Bray90820: you could prolly do `cat file > new_file && rm file`
[23:00] <Bray90820> al2o3-cr, Thaks but I already got it worked out
[23:00] <al2o3-cr> i know :p
[23:00] <bentler> any idea how to make /etc/resolv.conf changes stick?
[23:01] <daftykins> bentler: purge resolvconf, reboot once, edit, reboot again
[23:03] <feneco> how to hide connection icon from ubuntu top bar?
[23:04] <dmitru> gardijne change location, language and logged in ubuntu google put dns 8.8.8.8, or using a proxy server at home for VPN or through a browser, there are ready-made services on the Internet
[23:05] <allizom> Hi people. I'm looking for a virtualization solution for a classroom, I need to run, one at a time, multiple instances of Ubuntu (or one of its flavors) guests on a Ubuntu (again, prefix it with l, x, etc.) host. I'd prefer not to give root access to the students, so it should not be required in order to just run the VM (it can be for setup). I don't need extreme performances, but it has not to be too sluggish. Also I'd prefer to have a management GUI.
[23:05] <allizom> What should I be looking at (no Virtualbox)? Thanks
[23:06] <daftykins> allizom: how big are your classes?
[23:06] <allizom> about 25 students each
[23:07] <daftykins> allizom: i have been in this situation before, if you work with your IT department they may have sufficient licensing to have 'free' access to create and operate a Microsoft Hyper-V server (not my personal preference) or - VMWare ESX is free on a yearly basis for educational uses.
[23:08] <TJ-> allizom: Thats what qemu/kvm + libvirt + virtual machine manager (GUI) do
[23:08] <daftykins> allizom: you're going to have to have quite the beefy system to drive 25 at once
[23:08] <allizom> daftykins: hm, was looking for a free "as in freedom" solution. also I said one at a time
[23:09] <daftykins> ah, why one at a time o0
[23:09] <daftykins> allizom: sure you can do it that way, but you'll probably just be making life harder for yourself. why not just have a spare old system and boot live sessions from a flash drive?
[23:10] <allizom> TJ-: I read about qemu/kvm/vmm, but can I avoid to give root access?
[23:10] <Johnny_Linux> good idea
[23:10] <Johnny_Linux> live usb
[23:10] <daftykins> i'm sure there are reasons for your imposed restrictions, but they don't make too much sense with the info provided :)
[23:10] <bentler> daftykins: worked great, thank you :)
[23:10] <daftykins> bentler: np!
[23:11] <allizom> daftykins: it *could* be possible, but I'd like to know my options in advance
[23:11] <daftykins> allizom: what've the kids gotta do? is it just a compare + contrast exercise?
[23:11] <TJ-> allizom: Yes; libvirt runs with its own user account as a service, the user tools access it over sockets. for admin users they should be added to the libvirtd user-group
[23:13] <allizom> daftykins: it's a high school class and they need to install some packages and stuff, and actually use them too ;P
[23:13] <daftykins> allizom: heh but you said no root
[23:14] <daftykins> also that's fine with a live session.
[23:14] <TJ-> allizom: If you don't need a full virtualised machine libvirt also supports LXC (containers) and has GUI setup wizards to help
[23:15] <danshin> someone know how to creat a bootable pendrive in linux?
[23:16] <allizom> TJ-: I will surely look at that too, but can you please tell me something more about the libvirt way? should I add the VM users in some group?
[23:16] <daftykins> danshin: yes, both command line and GUI options exist
[23:17] <daftykins> danshin: do you have an ISO downloaded ready? and flash drive plugged in?
[23:17] <TJ-> allizom: no. each user can start Virtual Machine Manager and use its GUI to start/stop and access its 'screen'
[23:17] <danshin> yes
[23:17] <daftykins> danshin: 1) identify the drive device name with "sudo parted -l" in a terminal (e.g. /dev/sdb) 2) run "sudo dd if=/path/to/your/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M" (where sdX is the letter you found out in 1)
[23:18] <mekhami> alrighty.
[23:18] <sehnsucht> I just installed vmware player 7 on ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit and it just took about 15 mins to come up. it takes about 1 or 2 when running same vm on the same machine under windows 7.  cpu was maxing out both in the host and on ubuntu, and everything was hanging for up to a minute at a time.
[23:19] <sehnsucht> is there something i need to do to make it a lot faster?
[23:19] <daftykins> sehnsucht: can't help with proprietary software in here really.
[23:19] <daftykins> run it in a terminal and look for errors perhaps
[23:19] <daftykins> sounds like VT isn't working quite right
[23:20] <TJ-> allizom: see "apt-cache show virt-manager" for the GUI
[23:20] <danshin> daftkins: when i do this code, nothing happening '-'. just jump a on terminal
[23:21] <allizom> TJ-: that's good. you know, I asked here because there are just too many options with virtualization and I wanted a quick heads up before I invest time into a particular solution. I will inform myself about the virt-manager and LXC then. Thanks
[23:21] <danshin> daftkins: 3064541184 bytes (3,1 GB) copied, 23,9636 s, 128 MB/s my file have 4gb
[23:21] <daftykins> danshin: what code?
[23:21] <danshin> daftykins: sudo dd if=/path/to/your/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[23:22] <daftykins> danshin: yeah you won't see any output until the above result
[23:22] <daftykins> it does not give feedback
[23:22] <daftykins> danshin: this is actually Windows huh? this approach won't work
[23:22] <danshin> daftykins: root@danshin-Satellite-M645:/home/danshin# sudo dd if=/home/danshin/Downloads/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdv1 bs=2M
[23:22] <danshin> dd: error writing ‘/dev/sdv1’: No space left on device
[23:22] <danshin> 1462+0 records in
[23:22] <danshin> 1461+0 records out
[23:22] <danshin> 3064541184 bytes (3,1 GB) copied, 23,9636 s, 128 MB/s
[23:22] <Toph> hey yocapybara
[23:22] <daftykins> danshin: ok i said /dev/sdX. not /dev/sdX1
[23:23] <daftykins> but yeah this is not going to work for Windows ISOs, you needed to mention that :)
[23:23] <cryptodan_laptop> danshin: you could get the progress if this http://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd
[23:24] <daftykins> i'd have explained dd progress but things complete fast enough these days ;)
[23:24] <danshin> daftykins: i'm trying to install debian  '-'
[23:24] <daftykins> danshin: ok so it's a 3GB debian DVD? be fine then - '/dev/sdv' doesn't sound quite right o0
[23:25] <daftykins> that would mean it's your 22nd device
[23:25] <danshin> daftykins: my debian dvd have 4GB. And my pen drive 8GB
[23:25] <daftykins> yeah that's not in question
[23:26] <daftykins> danshin: but you have to write to /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdX1 as you did above
[23:26] <daftykins> danshin: also don't use 'sudo' when you're already root
[23:28] <j4ys33> Anybody running 15.04 on XPS13? Just ordered one.
[23:28] <danshin> daftkins to i formate this pen drive i need to use "umount /dev/sdX"  and "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX" right?
[23:29] <daftykins> danshin: i'm telling you to run dd, which means you don't need to format, don't partition, don't do _anything_ else
[23:30] <daftykins> just run the command correctly as i have advised repeatedly and all will be fine
[23:30] <danshin> ok
[23:37] <wfpkhc> i cannot seem to get ubuntu to work on a liveUSB!
[23:37] <wfpkhc> :(
[23:37] <wfpkhc> i use unetbootin
[23:38] <wfpkhc> to put 14.X or 15.X and neither work
[23:38] <wfpkhc> if i put 14.x on - then it comes up with a super small screen
[23:38] <daftykins> EFI or legacy boot?
[23:38] <wfpkhc> with red lights
[23:38] <wfpkhc> with red lines
[23:38] <daftykins> !nomodeset | wfpkhc try this
[23:38] <wfpkhc> if i put 15.x on - it asks for  a login and dies after i log in
[23:39] <wfpkhc> how do i put nomodeset in if
[23:39] <wfpkhc> i am using liveusb?
[23:39] <daftykins> that's what the link describes.
[23:39] <daftykins> or should do
[23:39] <wfpkhc> k
[23:39] <wfpkhc> thank you sir
[23:40] <wfpkhc> hmm that doesnt amek sense
[23:40] <wfpkhc> where do i put in nomodeset?
[23:42] <ExecSlim> wfpkhc, edit /etc/default/grub and add nomodeset to GRUB_CMD_LINUX_DEFAULT parameter
[23:43] <ExecSlim> then run sudo update-grub
[23:43] <wfpkhc> thats my problem ExecSlim - how do i get to etc/default/grub on a usblive?
[23:43] <j4ys33> I inadvertently disconnected myself, I'm very sorry if someone answered this before: anybody running 15.04 on XPS13? Just ordered one.
[23:44] <ExecSlim> wfpkhc: oh
[23:44] <wfpkhc> yeah i said the same thing
[23:44] <ExecSlim> !offtopic | j4ys33
[23:44] <bubbasaures> wfpkhc, unetbootin has not worked for awhile, try another usb loader and check the iso's sum.
[23:44] <wfpkhc> i tried linuxpendrive but
[23:44] <bubbasaures> worked well anyway
[23:44] <wfpkhc> that did the same thing
[23:45] <wfpkhc> well the people last night recommended unetbootin on the ubuntu website documentation
[23:45] <al2o3-cr> doesn't unetbootin use syslinux?
[23:45] <bubbasaures> wfpkhc, May as simple as the nomodeset, it is a f6 first screen, original live boot, for choices
[23:46] <bubbasaures> be*
[23:46] <j4ys33> Ubottu: does 15.04 not qualify as Ubuntu?
[23:46] <wfpkhc> i will try that sir
[23:48] <bubbasaures> j4ys33, 15.04 is ubuntu, polling on your computer is offtopic is all.
[23:49] <trun4rth> I'll try and make this question simple. I am running the LTS ubuntu 14.x on this machine, dual booted with win8.1 (currently logged into) - I need to wrap the windows wireless driver because it isn't currently supported by ubuntu. I'm not a linux pro, but I can handle a computer and I'm at least comfortable. Following a guide, should this be pretty straight forward, or is there a ninja trick I can do?
[23:50] <wfpkhc> so what exactly do i type when i press f6?
[23:50] <j4ys33> Bubbasaures: understood. Thanks for the clarification. I'll move along.
[23:50] <bubbasaures>  wfpkhc nothing you should see a nomodeset option.
[23:50] <wfpkhc> k thank you sir
[23:55] <OerHeks> trun4rth, there is a guide for ndiswrapper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:58] <hulio> what is the best way to install nvidia driver in ubuntu?