[00:03] <murthy> what will happen if I uninstall ureadahead?
[00:04] <murthy> seems I can remove it without removing the entire installation
[02:19] <vbgunz> Kubuntu 14.10 update-grub does not find Windows 7 or another Kubuntu 15.04 installation. This used to be simple, now it feels impossible. Both Windows 7 and the Kubuntu 15.04 installations are working and I can boot them up but grub does not find them, any clues?
[05:36] <mat619> Hi there, need your help: Due to suddenly terrible frame rates in many games over the last few weeks I decided yesterday to switch from fglrx-updates to radeon, just to try out which games work well and which don't. Used the standard driver selection tool (not sure what it's called on an english Kubuntu 15.04 install) to switch to radeon, rebooted, login dialog came up, logged in - black screen with cursor and only one of my last ru
[05:38] <mat619> First bootup with radeon was terribly slow (over 5 minutes, compared to 30 s before) by the way. OK, reboot - shutdown takes another 5 minutes. Next time it comes up X fails to start altogether, log complains about no screens now. OK, I know that drill, so "sudo Xorg -configure" it is - or so I thought: X just segfaults at 0x0, all the time
[05:39] <mat619> So... what to do now?
[05:45] <amichair> is plasma 5.3.2 available on 15.04?
[06:41] <amichair> does kubuntu still support backpots of kde point releases (e.g. plasma 5.3.2 on 15.04)?
[06:51] <hateball> amichair: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3
[06:53] <amichair> hateball: I don't see any mention of 5.3.2. That page looks a bit old.
[07:53] <arnold> hi all
[08:02] <valorie> amichair: yes, but they have been slow to get backported
[08:02] <valorie> most work is going into getting wily ready
[08:02] <valorie> more help packaging is always welcome
[08:03] <amichair> valorie: ok, as long as backports are not abandoned :-)
[08:04] <valorie> no, sgclark was working on them last I heard
[08:04] <amichair> but it was very nice when they used to backport kde point releases within a day or two
[08:04] <valorie> right, we need more help
[08:04] <amichair> don't we all ;-)
[08:04] <valorie> it's been a busy spring and summer
[08:04] <valorie> yup
[08:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:04] <Nilli> Is 14.04 stable enough to install for someone who won't be able to update or fix problems themselves? I can only help them maybe once or twice a year.
[11:07] <lordievader> If you enable automatic updates sure.
[11:08] <Nilli> Alright.
[13:34] <alvin> Is "Google Hangouts" supposed to be working? (System Settings -> Online Accounts) I can't really follow. Facebook stopped supporting normal chat, but I don't know about Google.
[13:39] <ahoneybun> alvin: it works, just add you Google account under Online Accounts
[13:40] <alvin> Keeps crashing here
[13:40] <ahoneybun> with KDE Telepathy?
[13:41] <alvin> Yes, but it's goog to know that it should work :-)
[13:41] <alvin> *good
[13:41] <ahoneybun> alvin: don't forget to get the good updates with the backport PPA :)
[13:41] <alvin> I have those
[13:41] <ahoneybun> ok
[13:42] <alvin> Wouldn't want to use Kubuntu without the official unoficcial backports.
[13:42] <ahoneybun> get the latest software, yep
[14:43] <murthy> Haudegen: hi
[14:45] <diego___> Hello, I'm looking for help to fix my desktop and panels.
[14:45] <diego___> I believe this has to do with plasma application, but I'm not sure.
[14:45] <diego___> The problem is that the desktop went black and the taskbar in the bottom crashed;
[14:45] <diego___> it's not there and can't be invoked with shortcuts.
[14:45] <diego___> Thanks.
[14:46] <murthy> diego___: hi
[14:49] <diego___> murthy: Hi, I should have asked first if I'm in the right place?
[14:51] <murthy> diego___: ya, I will help you
[14:52] <murthy> diego___: are you able to open the task manager?
[14:53] <murthy> diego___: do you know the keyboard shorcut to do that?
[14:53] <diego___> I have a shortcut for System Activity.  Is that teh same one?
[14:54] <diego___> murthy: I also have one with F2, I think it's the KRunner.
[14:54] <murthy> diego___: ya open system activity
[14:55] <murthy> diego___: can you see a process named plasmashell running?
[14:55] <diego___> No.
[14:55] <murthy> diego___: ok that the issue
[14:55] <diego___> murthy: There's kcmshell5
[14:56] <murthy> diego___: open the krunner and type plasmashell and press enter
[14:56] <murthy> diego___: are you new to linux ?
[14:57] <diego___> Not really.  But I haven't really had a formal instruction on the basics.
[14:58] <diego___> So I just get around as I can.
[14:58] <murthy> diego___: me too
[14:58] <diego___> 4 years in ubuntu, and 1 with Kubuntu
[14:58] <murthy> diego___: nice
[14:59] <murthy> diego___: did you do what I said now?
[14:59] <diego___> Oh, right
[14:59] <diego___> That was it.
[15:00] <diego___> It's an easy fix, but still get this bug often.  I'll file a bug.
[15:00] <diego___> I mean report.
[15:02] <diego___> Thanks.
[15:06] <murthy> diego___: when does this happen?
[15:08] <diego___> murthy:  I've tried to distinguish, but can't really point to it.  The closest I get is when I change the desktops too quickly.
[15:08] <murthy> diego___: do you have a graphics card?
[15:09] <diego___> murthy:  Sometimes I get a crash notification which allows me to restart it right then.
[15:09] <diego___> But sometimes I don't so before today I was restarting the computer each time.
[15:10] <diego___> murthy: I'm not sure.  I don't think so.
[15:10] <murthy> diego___: using a laptop?
[15:10] <diego___> murthy: yeah
[15:12] <murthy> diego___: have you installed the binary drivers?
[15:12] <diego___> murthy: no, I don't recall that.
[15:14] <diego___> murthy: I actually don't know much about such topics, even though I've seen it mentioned often.
[15:15] <murthy> diego___: there are two types of drivers for a graphics card
[15:16] <murthy> diego___: one is open source which is given by linux
[15:16] <murthy> diego___: the other is the binary one which is given by the graphics card company
[15:17] <murthy> diego___: do you like to see if the driver given by the graphics card company is installed?
[15:18] <murthy> diego___: Some times installing the driver given by the company solves the problem of plasma crashing
[15:18] <diego___> murthy: I'd appreciate it.
[15:19] <murthy> diego___: open the kickoff menu aka the start menu and search driver manager. open it
[15:19] <Haudegen> murthy: I searched for files owned by root using: find $HOME -user root
[15:19] <Haudegen> murthy: There is nothing Plasma related.
[15:20] <murthy> Haudegen: so there are some files which are not yours?
[15:21] <Haudegen> murthy: There are no alien files.  Everything is quite reasonable.
[15:21] <diego___> murthy: I get a box:  Using Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode.
[15:21] <diego___> murthy: I have a lenovo ideapad.
[15:21] <Haudegen> murthy: I'll look at some other hosts in the evening.
[15:22] <murthy> Haudegen: what about your graphics card driver?
[15:22] <murthy> diego___: only one is shown?
[15:23] <diego___> murthy: yup.  It has a checkbox.
[15:23] <Haudegen> murthy: AMD open source driver on my current machine.  But I have the same issues on Nvidia graphics and Intel.
[15:23] <murthy> Haudegen: all using the open source driver?
[15:24] <Haudegen> murthy: Nvidia proprietary driver.
[15:24] <murthy> Haudegen: ah
[15:24] <murthy> Haudegen: In that case it must be a bug in plasma
[15:24] <Haudegen> murthy: The crashes are somehow related to the use of Activities.
[15:24] <murthy> Haudegen: yes
[15:24] <murthy> Haudegen: thats a known atleast to me
[15:24] <Haudegen> murthy: I use them a lot.  When I switch activities and desktops, Plasma likes to crash.
[15:25] <murthy> Haudegen: kactivitymanager segfaults
[15:25] <Haudegen> murthy: And pulls down plasma?
[15:25] <murthy> Haudegen: very rare occasions i guess
[15:26] <Haudegen> murthy: Activities are the reason why I can't change to another Window manager while waiting for Plasma 5 to stabilize.  That's a bummer. :)
[15:26] <murthy> Haudegen: there is a file called libqt5sql.so. that is causing kactivitymanger to segfault
[15:26] <Haudegen> murthy: Will this be fixed in 5.3.2?
[15:26] <murthy> Haudegen: seems diego___ is facing the similar problem
[15:27] <murthy> Haudegen: may be. I am not sure. I have to check the change log
[15:27] <Haudegen> murthy: I have the same issues on six very different machines.  Desktops, laptops, cheap, expensive, ...
[15:28] <Haudegen> murthy: It got a *lot* better with 5.3.1.  5.3.0 sometimes crashed with every single mouse click. :)
[15:28] <murthy> Haudegen: I am facing even more of a problem. for me shutdown takes more thann 3 mins. we have to be patient. the bugs will be fixed soon
[15:29] <diego___> murthy: Haudegen   I only use the desktops, but not activities.  I can look at it, if you don't mind guiding me.
[15:29] <Haudegen> murthy: Yeah, the Plasma guys will sort it out.  But I'll stay on LTS even on desktops in the future.  That's for sure.
[15:31] <murthy> diego___: no you said plasma crashes when you switch desktop right? Haudegen's plasma crashes when he switches activity, something might be common here
[15:31] <Haudegen> diego___: Just configure some activities and change desktops and activities.  It doesn't matter if you use the mouse or the keyboard to do the switching.  It's somewhat unpredictable but the crashes will happen eventually.
[15:32] <murthy> Haudegen: Its upto your requirements. If you own multiple computers, its better to have one LTS or debian stable
[15:34] <Haudegen> murthy: That's correct.  But when the transition from KDE 3 to 4 happened, the newer KDE versions where a lot better, so I started using non-LTE + backports.  This combination was even more stable then LTS for desktop applications.
[15:34] <Haudegen> murthy: I started the bad habit back then.
[15:35] <murthy> Haudegen: ya, It was very well known that plasma5 frameworks 5 ... all are very new, so it is bound to bugs. you better have a stable install by side
[15:36] <diego___> murthy: Haudegen: Yes, for me it's only desktops since I don't use the activities.  I created one to see if it happens more.
[15:36] <Haudegen> murthy: Yes.  But when 14.10 came out, I didn't think about plasma 5.  I should have stayed on 14.04.
[15:37] <murthy> diego___: Haudegen wait for some time, 5.3.2 is being backported to 15.04. update to it when it is available to see if this solves the issue, else we will file a bug
[15:39] <diego___> murthy:  What about the drivers?  Would it be helpful for me to investigate and install proprietary drivers?
[15:40] <Haudegen> Haudegen: I'm waiting for 5.3.2.  I even noted the scheduled release date in my calendar: 25.06.2015.  I really hope the backports will be available soon.  I'm working and living in KDE, the crashes are really annoying.  That's not ment to be critizism for the developers.
[15:42]  * Haudegen is talking to himself.  Must be the heat.
[15:43] <murthy> sorry I was on the phone
[15:44] <lordievader> 5.3.2 should be coming soon to Vivid. It is already in Wily.
[15:44] <murthy> diego___: yes. but the driver manager didn't show any other driver as available right?
[15:45] <diego___> murthy: no.  Just the intel one..
[15:45] <murthy> diego___: so there is not proprietary drivers available to be installed
[16:12] <akasic> hi all, can anyone tell me how to enable vsync in with an nvidia gpu? in nvidia-settings there is no option for my 740m
[16:13] <lordievader> akasic: You can enable it in for kwin. What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[16:15] <akasic> 15.04
[16:15] <akasic> but that is a card opton, very strange ill look, thn
[16:15] <akasic> x
[16:17] <lordievader> akasic: It should be in the nvidia x config too, I suppose.
[16:18] <akasic> the option of kwin is for composition effects? i need for every 3d
[16:18] <akasic> no, no vsync, sync to blanc, etc
[16:20] <akasic> thnx anyway
[16:49] <Haudegen> lordievader: My Wily VM is on 5.3.1 still.
[16:50] <lordievader> Hmm... would it be in staging then... I thought it had landed already.
[17:12] <mparillo> Haudegen: Have you upgraded recently? My wily is on 5.3.2 with no PPAs required.
[17:12] <knightyyy> how can I view kde's logs?
[17:14] <Haudegen> mparillo: I have an VM based on the Alpha 1 ISO.  No PPAs.
[17:14] <Haudegen> mparillo: Fully updated.
[17:16] <Haudegen> mparillo: Maybe my mirror is outdated (at.archive.ubuntu.com).  I'll try switching to the german mirror.
[17:23] <Haudegen> mparillo: 218 updates after switching to the german mirror.
[17:34] <lordievader> Haudegen: There you go ;)
[17:34] <lordievader> So 5.3.2 is in the archives, right?
[17:43] <mparillo> When I try to help people, I am usually the one learning. It never occurred to me that the mirrors would not be up-to-date. Yet another reason to try to help.
[18:19] <Haudegen> lordievader: Yes it is.  And the mirrors are untrustworthy.
[18:30] <lordievader> Haudegen: Phew, then my mind ain't going :)
[18:30] <Haudegen> lordievader: I'm sorry for confusing you.
[18:31] <lordievader> Haudegen: No worries ;)
[19:19] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[19:48] <AceKing> I use Witopia VPN service. I noticed today, when I connect to an openvpn server, it shows I'm connected, but if I check my IP address, it still shows my local IP. I've been using Witopia since 2010, and never had this problem. I tried rebuilding the ovpn files, and imported them again, still the same problem. Same problem on my PC, and laptop. Any ideas how to fix this?
[19:48] <lordievader> AceKing: Can you pastebin the openvpn config?
[19:49] <AceKing> lordievader: Sure.. Give me a minute
[19:50] <AceKing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11850978/
[19:53] <lordievader> AceKing: Do you get a new gateway pushed by the server?
[19:54] <AceKing> lordievader: I'm not too sure
[19:54] <lordievader> AceKing: Compare 'ip r' before you connect to the vpn with the output after you've connected.
[19:55] <AceKing> lordievader: At the risk of sounding stupid, how do I check that
[19:56] <lordievader> AceKing: You disconnect the vpn, open a terminal, run 'ip r', connect to the vpn, and run 'ip r' again.
[19:56] <AceKing> lordievader: Ok, thank you
[19:57] <AceKing> lordievader: Yes, it changed
[19:58] <lordievader> The default gatway, or just a couple of routes?
[19:58] <AceKing> a couple of routes
[19:59] <lordievader> There is your problem then, the default gateway ain't changed ;)
[19:59] <AceKing> lordievader: How can I fix it?
[20:00] <lordievader> AceKing: Find out what the gateway should be, likely mentioned among the routes, and let openvpn set your default gatway to that.
[20:01] <lordievader> Make sure the connection to the vpn server goes outside of the vpn tunnel.
[20:02] <AceKing> lordievader: OK, one more thing... Is there an easy way to setup IPsec? When I go to add a VPN connection, it doesn't show as a choice
[20:02] <lordievader> AceKing: With Strongswan, yes. Their documentation is rather good.
[20:03] <AceKing> lordievader: Thank you for all your help. I appreciate it
[20:03] <lordievader> No problem ;)
[20:16] <AceKing> lordievader: If I can bother you once more... Here is how they say to setup a connection in Witopia. Of course it's not the same Kubuntu, and I can't seem to get it to work. If you would be so kind to point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. https://www.witopia.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/ubuntu-linux-ipsec-setup/
[20:24] <Wazhai> Hi, I have a problem with Kubuntu 14.04 auto update, it doesn't auto check. I've set it in Software Sources to check for updates daily, but it doesn't. When I open Muon Update manager, it currently says last checked 1 day 20 hours ago. I think my PC needs to be turned on at a certain time of day for this to work. Does anyone know how to fix this? Also, Application update notifier is running in the system tray.
[21:37] <tweak> hi. just curious what the easiest way is to automount drives on bootup so i don't have to open dolphin just to mount a drive ?
[21:48] <tweak> also curious how to change the application laucher icon, as well as looking for my old plasma wallpaper that was a view of earth and space with constellations that you could zoom in/out and move around.
[22:06] <tweakeroon> hi. just curious what the easiest way is to automount drives on bootup so i don't have to open dolphin just to mount a drive ? also curious how to change the application laucher icon, as well as looking for my old plasma wallpaper that was a view of earth and space with constellations that you could zoom in/out and move around.
[22:15] <Wazhai> tweakeroon: you can set up automount using GUI with "gnome-disk-utility".  Select the disk, gears icon below, mount options, mount at startup
[22:18] <tweakeroon> Wazhai: Thanks so much! Was about to edit fstab -_-
[22:22] <tweakeroon> Wazhai: actually the mount options option is greyed out
[22:26] <Wazhai> tweakeroon: hm, sorry, but I don't know. I can edit all of my partitions' mount options there
[22:27] <Wazhai> maybe try running it as root?
[22:27] <tweakeroon> Wazhai: good call, that did it. thank you xD
[22:28] <Wazhai> glad to help :)
[22:36] <tweakeroon> anyone have a clue as to how to change the kde laucher icon? the standard right click options->appearance->icon isnt there
[22:41] <lordievader> Why use a Gnome utility when you have fstab...
[23:08] <TNVolFan> Hey Guys and Girls, long time no see
[23:08] <TNVolFan> sorry, been away taking care of some stuff
[23:08] <lordievader> o/
[23:09] <TNVolFan> I am having a bang up problem with my Belkin F5D8235 router, for some darn reason it keeps hanging up and I think the firmware has gone to crap on it.  I am trying to use openwrt to build a new firmware so I can put the custom build on it.
[23:09] <TNVolFan> Hey Lordie..
[23:10] <TNVolFan> Can you guys help me figure out what getopt belongs to?  I think its part of perl.  Its asking for that as a prereq of the openwrt to build.  I am not entirely sure tho.  the readme doesn't specify
[23:10] <lordievader> Does your router support OpenWRT?
[23:13] <TNVolFan> yep, sure does, well at least according to the site and the make menuconfig.  The router is a Belkin F5D8235-4 version 2.  On the make menuconfig, its listed as aRT3xxx and in the submenus its defined as Target Profile of Belkin F5D8235 v2
[23:14] <TNVolFan> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start#belkin
[23:15] <TNVolFan> i think I almost have the prereqs installed but its slightly confusing what the developer meant by his prereqs in the readme file.  I will excerpt only the prereqs they are calling for
[23:16] <TNVolFan> According to the README file in the openwrt 15.05, it shows: You need to have installed gcc, binutils, bzip2, flex, python, perl, make,
[23:16] <TNVolFan> find, grep, diff, unzip, gawk, getopt, subversion, libz-dev and libc headers.
[23:16] <TNVolFan> well, darn, sorry about the scroll, ctrl V didn't work out lol
[23:17] <TNVolFan> getopt is what is confuzzing me
[23:20] <lordievader> TNVolFan: You probably want libc6-dev.
[23:21] <TNVolFan> let me check that out in the package manager.  I wonder if getopt is a part of that dev package
[23:21] <lordievader> getopt.h is in that package, and since you are building stuff ;)
[23:23] <TNVolFan> maybe... just maybe you have a good point.  Let me give that a shot and see what happens..  the worst that could happen is the build fail....  Right?  LOL
[23:24] <TNVolFan> looks like its already installed.  Let me give this a shot
[23:26] <TNVolFan> I hope to goodness this build works LOL...  This Belkin has been locking up, half working, booting me off youtube on my smartTV and a whole buncha irritating stuff.  I am sure you would understand haha
[23:26] <TNVolFan> What drives me crazy..  Belkin hasn't released a firmware since 2012 on that thing, sooo, figured I would explore other options