[00:19] <lifeless> heh
[16:39] <Cerealkiller> hello,i need some help
[16:40] <Cerealkiller> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11849659/
[16:40] <Cerealkiller> i get some warnings on running apt-get update
[16:40] <teward> Cerealkiller: usually that's an indicator those PPAs don't support that release
[16:40] <cjwatson> Cerealkiller: You'll need to contact the owners of those PPAs.
[16:40] <Cerealkiller> can't i just remove them?
[16:40] <cjwatson> Launchpad just provides the hosting, not the content.
[16:40] <cjwatson> Or that, if you prefer.
[16:40] <Cerealkiller> especially the last two of them
[16:41] <Cerealkiller> i meant the last of them*
[16:41] <teward> Cerealkiller: you can, yes.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[16:41] <Cerealkiller> teward, thank you ! :)
[16:41] <teward> Cerealkiller: you should remove the two PPAs that're triggering 404s, and/or contact the PPA maintainers
[16:50] <Cerealkiller> may i ask how can i get the ppa from a link?
[16:50] <Cerealkiller> or how can i get a ppa if it gives me an error,so i can uninstall it?
[16:51] <dobey> http://ppa.launchpad.net/jconti/recent-notifications/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages
[16:52] <dobey> that would be ppa:jconti/recent-notifications
[16:52] <Cerealkiller> thank you,i get it now
[17:57] <tytel> wgrant: thanks for the help the other day! I'm pretty sure that worked.
[17:58] <tytel> Well hopefully it did because I released the beta yesterday: http://tytel.org/helm
[17:59] <tytel> I do have some people downloading the package from launchpad and running into a dependency issue
[17:59] <tytel>  helm depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.9); however:  Version of libstdc++6:amd64 on system is 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.
[18:00] <tytel> does anyone know if there's a way to depend on an older version of libstdc++6?
[18:04] <dobey> fix your code to compile against the older version?
[18:04] <dobey> and fix the deps in debian/control to reflect the correct thing
[18:05] <dobey> oh, it's an lv2?
[18:07] <dobey> ah, and you've only built it for vivid
[18:11] <dobey> tytel: so the problem is you only have one build for one version of ubuntu, and you try to use that to support all versions of linux systems, it seems
[18:12] <tytel> dobey: yea, this is my first real linux packaging. i'm doing bad things huh
[18:14] <dobey> well, you can't support all supported versions of ubuntu with a single build that was built on the latest version. you will end up with issues like the one you just described :)
[18:14] <tytel> dobey: how do people normally package something so it works on all linux distros?
[18:14] <tytel> dobey: i thought that might be the case. i guess i was in denial
[18:14] <dobey> tytel: there is basically no way to provide a single binary package that works everywhere
[18:14] <tytel> dobey: :(
[18:18] <dobey> tytel: on the other hand, i've got a ppa where i've set up automated builds of various audio tools on linux, so i'll be adding helm builds to that ppa as well. :)
[18:18] <tytel> dobey: awesome! :D
[18:18] <tytel> dobey: so if i build versions for a bunch of ubuntu versions, i still have to go build it for other distros as well?
[18:19] <tytel> dobey: how do people normally manage that? sounds complicated
[18:20] <dobey> yeah. you can't build it on ubuntu and expect it to work on fedora, suse, etc…
[18:20] <tytel> sorry if these questions are really uninformed..
[18:20] <dobey> most people don't deal with it. they just build for whatever they use
[18:20] <dobey> and ignore the rest
[18:21] <dobey> or they just build a statically linked binary and just distribute a tarball, or something similar
[18:21] <dobey> or like steam for example, ship their own versions of all the dynamic libs they need, installed in a special location.
[18:25] <tytel> dobey: woah, didn't know that about steam
[18:25] <cjwatson> Or they build for something really old and have conservative library dependencies that don't break backward-compatibility a whole lot
[18:26] <cjwatson> Building on old and running on new has a better track record than vice versa
[18:27] <dobey> yeah
[18:28] <dobey> "target the oldest supported version of whatever you wish to support" is generally the option that gives you the greatest level of support on that target platform
[18:39] <tytel> dobey cjwatson: thanks for the input :)
[20:47] <pepee> how come comments in the system don't have anchor tags?
[20:52] <dobey> in which system?
[20:52] <pepee> launchpad
[20:53] <dobey> bugs? merge proposals?
[20:53] <pepee> I haven't found a way of showing a comment in its context
[20:53] <dobey> they have direct links
[20:53] <dobey> it's just the way it was made i guess. i don't know if there is a bug open about it though
[20:54] <pepee> guess I'll ask in -dev