[00:19] heh === anthonyf is now known as Guest97002 [16:39] hello,i need some help [16:40] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11849659/ [16:40] i get some warnings on running apt-get update [16:40] Cerealkiller: usually that's an indicator those PPAs don't support that release [16:40] Cerealkiller: You'll need to contact the owners of those PPAs. [16:40] can't i just remove them? [16:40] Launchpad just provides the hosting, not the content. [16:40] Or that, if you prefer. [16:40] especially the last two of them [16:41] i meant the last of them* [16:41] Cerealkiller: you can, yes. http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed [16:41] teward, thank you ! :) [16:41] Cerealkiller: you should remove the two PPAs that're triggering 404s, and/or contact the PPA maintainers [16:50] may i ask how can i get the ppa from a link? [16:50] or how can i get a ppa if it gives me an error,so i can uninstall it? [16:51] http://ppa.launchpad.net/jconti/recent-notifications/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages [16:52] that would be ppa:jconti/recent-notifications [16:52] thank you,i get it now [17:57] wgrant: thanks for the help the other day! I'm pretty sure that worked. [17:58] Well hopefully it did because I released the beta yesterday: http://tytel.org/helm [17:59] I do have some people downloading the package from launchpad and running into a dependency issue [17:59] helm depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.9); however: Version of libstdc++6:amd64 on system is 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04. [18:00] does anyone know if there's a way to depend on an older version of libstdc++6? [18:04] fix your code to compile against the older version? [18:04] and fix the deps in debian/control to reflect the correct thing [18:05] oh, it's an lv2? [18:07] ah, and you've only built it for vivid [18:11] tytel: so the problem is you only have one build for one version of ubuntu, and you try to use that to support all versions of linux systems, it seems [18:12] dobey: yea, this is my first real linux packaging. i'm doing bad things huh [18:14] well, you can't support all supported versions of ubuntu with a single build that was built on the latest version. you will end up with issues like the one you just described :) [18:14] dobey: how do people normally package something so it works on all linux distros? [18:14] dobey: i thought that might be the case. i guess i was in denial [18:14] tytel: there is basically no way to provide a single binary package that works everywhere [18:14] dobey: :( [18:18] tytel: on the other hand, i've got a ppa where i've set up automated builds of various audio tools on linux, so i'll be adding helm builds to that ppa as well. :) [18:18] dobey: awesome! :D [18:18] dobey: so if i build versions for a bunch of ubuntu versions, i still have to go build it for other distros as well? [18:19] dobey: how do people normally manage that? sounds complicated [18:20] yeah. you can't build it on ubuntu and expect it to work on fedora, suse, etc… [18:20] sorry if these questions are really uninformed.. [18:20] most people don't deal with it. they just build for whatever they use [18:20] and ignore the rest [18:21] or they just build a statically linked binary and just distribute a tarball, or something similar [18:21] or like steam for example, ship their own versions of all the dynamic libs they need, installed in a special location. [18:25] dobey: woah, didn't know that about steam [18:25] Or they build for something really old and have conservative library dependencies that don't break backward-compatibility a whole lot [18:26] Building on old and running on new has a better track record than vice versa [18:27] yeah [18:28] "target the oldest supported version of whatever you wish to support" is generally the option that gives you the greatest level of support on that target platform [18:39] dobey cjwatson: thanks for the input :) [20:47] how come comments in the system don't have anchor tags? [20:52] in which system? [20:52] launchpad [20:53] bugs? merge proposals? [20:53] I haven't found a way of showing a comment in its context [20:53] they have direct links [20:53] it's just the way it was made i guess. i don't know if there is a bug open about it though [20:54] guess I'll ask in -dev