| ahoneybun | anyone know why my pages are overlaping the Header? | 01:34 |
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| ahoneybun | I'm using PageStack | 01:34 |
| ahoneybun | the reddit page is private? https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuPhone/ | 01:38 |
| ahoneybun | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92voAhlZeHY | 01:45 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:47 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hello all | 07:00 |
| davidcalle | Good morning o/ | 07:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | o/ | 07:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | anyone know who the ubuntu-file-manager app developer is? I know popey worked on it. I have a patch that adds thumbnails for jpegs, png's, and gifs, but autopilot is failing 10 tests | 07:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | however, autopilot is failing 10 tests even without my changes | 07:18 |
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| ohmy | good morning all | 08:08 |
| ohmy | Is there anyway from QML/C++ (without compositor) to define on wich display (monitor) we can display a Window ? | 08:09 |
| ohmy | lets say i have monitor1 and monitor2 and i want programatically to show a Windows on one of them | 08:12 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: hi | 08:30 |
| zubozrout | Ok, I am here mcphail | 08:30 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: Hi :0 | 08:30 |
| zubozrout | * :) | 08:30 |
| mcphail | :) - how much experience do you have making .click packages? | 08:30 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: practically zero, I only made some stuff using the SDK | 08:31 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: we don't have a working sdl template for the SDK yet, but that doesn't matter. Building and creating a .click is easy. SturmFlut is working on the template | 08:32 |
| SturmFlut | mcphail: Well, "working" is a bit much to say ;) | 08:32 |
| zubozrout | Well, it would be nice to have it documented at least. | 08:33 |
| mcphail | SturmFlut: :) | 08:33 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: the first thing is to set up a build environment. Give me a sec and I'll find a link | 08:33 |
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| mcphail | zubozrout: this is essential reading: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/13/inner-workings-sdk/ | 08:34 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: getting a chroot set up takes time, but it is very automated and foolproof | 08:35 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: ok, thanks :) | 08:35 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: the next thing you have to do is get a version of SDL which works with Mir. See: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mcphail/ubuntu-touch-sdl-template/master/lib/src/how_to_build_sdl_for_ubuntu_phone.txt | 08:36 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: you can take the SDL libs from that github repo. They "wrok" | 08:36 |
| mcphail | *work | 08:36 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: All right, that is fine to know. So it is not just as simple as apt-get install somesdlstuff and then running it. | 08:37 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: not quite, but when you have the framework set up is is simple | 08:37 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: the difficulty is getting the first steps done | 08:38 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: you can then compile or download the ARM binary for your SDL app and roll it in a .click package | 08:38 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: well, the app has to be compiled with the above SDL libs, yes. | 08:38 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: you can compile _against_ any SDL2 libs, but you have to roll that specific version into your .click | 08:39 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: that means you can take any precompiled binary from the Ubuntu repos, but roll it with my SDL2 | 08:40 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: Ah :), ok, thanks :) | 08:40 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: of course, the biggest problem is that SDL2 still doesn't quite work... | 08:40 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: there are issues with coulours, transparency and rotation which are still getting smoothed out | 08:41 |
| mcphail | bschaefer is on the case | 08:41 |
| dubstar_04 | popey what happened to the ubuntu update podcast? | 08:42 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: Yes, I know of some issues. And what will happen once click is replaced with snappy packages on Ubuntu? | 08:43 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: not much difference | 08:43 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: for these purposes, click and snappy are almost identical | 08:43 |
| mcphail | (i think) | 08:44 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: ok :) | 08:44 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: the hassle with building a .click is you have to bundle all the needed libraries into the click itself. Snappy will be the same | 08:44 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: Well, thank you very much for the info. I'll read it and try it - and then ask here again if I bump into any problem | 08:45 |
| mcphail | zubozrout: enjoy! - it is easier than it looks | 08:45 |
| zubozrout | mcphail: Thanks :), you were very helpful. | 08:45 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: ping :) | 09:54 |
| SturmFlut | An Ubuntu phone will launch in India! | 09:58 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: (or anyone who knows) what I understand in OTA-5 there will be full shell rotation and if I want to force for example portrait orientation for my app, I need to specify that in .desktop file. (thanks popey) Will there be an option to specify app orientation when the app is already running? | 09:59 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: The meizu? | 10:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | http://i.imgur.com/TZPiI8B.png << :) | 10:10 |
| SturmFlut | akiva-thinkpad: Most likely, don't think it would make much sense to assume it's bq. We already know that Meizu wants to launch the MX4 with Flyme in India. | 10:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: lucky :/ | 10:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I still don't have one. | 10:12 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | nothing in North America~ | 10:12 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Hopefully by the end of the year! | 10:13 |
| SturmFlut | akiva-thinkpad: Don't really think so, there hasn't been any committment from a manufacturer for the US market yet. And porting to a new device takes time. | 10:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: Well it will come here eventually. No reason to delay it~ | 10:22 |
| zubozrout | SturmFlut: And what about MX5 with Ubuntu? I suppose no one wants to spread the word now, but I would soo much love to see it with Ubuntu. I wanted to purchase MX4 but MX5 is better :), more bleeding-edge. | 10:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | is it that much better :o | 10:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ? | 10:24 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: Not to mention 64bit processor - I wanted to have a phone with that for a long time and if MX5 was available with Ubuntu I wouldn't have to wait another round :). | 10:27 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: so I think it is great, in my eyes | 10:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :O But does it work in Canada?! | 10:28 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: Why wouldn't it? | 10:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | zubozrout: north american has different bands than the rest of the world | 10:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | mx4 does not have our band. | 10:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | best we can get is 2g | 10:32 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: Well, I know there is a problem with LTE and MX4 + MX5 in the Czech Republic (where I live), so with the supported frequencies I can only have LTE in the capital (Prague) but almost nowhere else although I have LTE with my Nexus 7 deb tablet all over the country. | 10:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lucky europeans :P | 10:35 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: Well, maybe lucky europeans except for the Czech Republic. I think Canada has better (nicer) mobile carriers than are here. | 10:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | We have wind, thats it | 10:37 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | Rogers... oh my blood pressure... | 10:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | "What do you mean I owe you $500 ? You cancelled my phone 5 months ago; I couldnt even use it!" Reply: | 10:38 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: hmm, and no Vodafone or T-mobile? I know they are in the USA. | 10:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | "oh no, we just cancelled your service, you still need to pay for your plan" | 10:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | No, and the best network in the US is Ting | 10:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | which ironically is from Canada, but can't operate in Canada | 10:39 |
| zubozrout | akiva-thinkpad: lol, well, that's sad. Yep, I heard about Ting, it has pretty nice reviews. | 10:39 |
| mzanetti | mivoligo, not in the beginning, but there are plans for such an api | 10:39 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: thanks, is that the rest I said correct? | 10:40 |
| SturmFlut | zubozrout, akiva-thinkpad: At least at the moment there isn't any information regarding the MX5, and Ubuntu also doesn't officially run on 64-bit ARM yet. I've asked about 64-bit ARM, because it would be nice if the Convergence device by bq came with it, but no info. | 10:41 |
| mzanetti | mivoligo, yep | 10:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: 64bit would just add a bit more speed, and +2gb of ram? or is it different than x86? | 10:41 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: ok, so "automaticOrientation: false" is no longer supported? | 10:42 |
| mzanetti | exactly | 10:42 |
| zubozrout | SturmFlut: Hmm, well, it sounds like I shouldn't hold my breath if there is no 64bit ARM support yet. So even if MX5 is going to be available with Ubuntu it won't be that soon as I want it to be, right? | 10:42 |
| SturmFlut | akiva-thinkpad: The AArch64 mode of ARMv8 is completely different than ARMv7. It's not an extension, it's a new design. | 10:43 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: btw what about the lock screen, does it rotate as well? | 10:43 |
| popey | mivoligo: haha, no | 10:43 |
| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: sounds complex~ | 10:44 |
| popey | mivoligo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1471609 | 10:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1471609 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Cannot unlock phone in landscape" [Critical,Confirmed] | 10:44 |
| mivoligo | popey: :D | 10:44 |
| mzanetti | ^^ | 10:45 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: are you planning to update MvsM any time soon? | 10:47 |
| Mirv | zbenjamin: yeah, fun, SDK works just fine as long as I don't touch the laptop's internal touchpad :S | 10:48 |
| mzanetti | mivoligo, probably yes | 10:51 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: I'll try to update that level 23 and push it in the evening then | 10:52 |
| mzanetti | ok | 10:52 |
| SturmFlut | akiva-thinkpad: Okay, I was wrong I hear, the bq Convergence device should be 64-bit :) | 10:54 |
| akiva-thinkpad | SturmFlut: So the Aquarius that is released is 64bit? | 10:54 |
| ogra_ | SturmFlut, who told you that ? | 10:54 |
| ogra_ | (then it cant be arm ) | 10:54 |
| zubozrout | ogra_: akiva-thinkpad ment 64bit arm | 10:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Well its all greek to me | 10:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | havn't been following hte arm hardware scene. | 10:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | the* | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | well, thats more a software issue :) | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | only about 60% of the phone packages even build on arm64 yet | 10:57 |
| zubozrout | ogra_: So it is in works to support arm64? | 10:58 |
| ogra_ | the ubuntu archive has arm64 support since ages already ... | 10:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | meh, all I care about is autopilot... and why trunk fails for me, but not for jenkins. | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | but the packages havent been fixed to build on it ... | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | nobody bothered | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | partialkly they even have arm64 completely disabled | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | getting that fixed and getting arm64 images at all will be quite some developer effort that will draw a lot of manpower | 11:00 |
| zubozrout | ogra_: Well, this answers my question about MX5 releasing with Ubuntu :). Sad, I wanted to wait for it even if it meant few months but this sounds like it wont be ready for another year or so. | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | zubozrout, well, its not impossible | 11:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ah I think I figured out why... | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | technically everything is there... but i dont see us having the spare manpower to get all the missing pieces in place in time | 11:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | popey: import Ubuntu.Components 1.2 << that is the current state right? | 11:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | the current version? | 11:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | because jenkins is complaining: file:///usr/share/filemanager/qml/components/FolderListDelegate.qml:19:1: module "Ubuntu.Components" version 1.2 is not installed | 11:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | import Ubuntu.Components 1.2 | 11:04 |
| popey | akiva-thinkpad: jenkins is running on utopic :( | 11:05 |
| popey | balloons: when you wake, any more poking we can do to move to vivid? | 11:05 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: one more question: what about forcing screen saver not to show up, is it implemented in OTA-5? | 11:05 |
| mzanetti | yes | 11:05 |
| akiva-thinkpad | popey: so... just give it a few days? | 11:05 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: \o/ | 11:06 |
| mzanetti | going to drop bigmovingtext from openstore | 11:06 |
| mzanetti | mivoligo, you should change your code to not always do "screensaverEnabled: false" | 11:06 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: I'm working right now on the update :) | 11:07 |
| mzanetti | but rather: screensaverEnabled: textAnimation.running && Qt.application.active | 11:07 |
| mzanetti | something like that would be best imo | 11:07 |
| zubozrout | ogra_: I understand, ... but maybe it would be best for me to buy something cheaper than MX4, so BQ ... stick with it for a while and then switch to something better once it is available. And I must agree with SturmFlut that amr64 would be gorgeous for the converfence device. | 11:07 |
| zubozrout | * arm64 | 11:07 |
| mivoligo | mzanetti: thanks, is it from: "import QtSystemInfo 5.0"? | 11:08 |
| akiva-thinkpad | oh btw popey, I just discovered your podcast; I love it. Anyways gotta run~ See you all | 11:09 |
| popey | o/ | 11:09 |
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| mcphail | Has anyone had any success setting up an emulated environment for comiling ARM binaries on AMD64 (rather than cross-compiling)? Have been trying with debootstrap and qemu-user-static but I am hitting roadblocks. How does the PPA build system achieve this? | 11:54 |
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| mcphail | which apt mirror hosts armhf binaries? | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports | 12:27 |
| mcphail | ogra_: cheers | 12:27 |
| popey | mcphail: I'm tempted to buy a cheap arm chromebook for doing stuff like this | 12:29 |
| mcphail | popey: I'm 95.989% of the way to solving it | 12:29 |
| popey | \o/ | 12:29 |
| popey | can you make an image and put it online somewhere? :) | 12:29 |
| mcphail | popey: yep | 12:29 |
| popey | \o/ | 12:29 |
| mcphail | popey: if it works... | 12:29 |
| popey | we have faith in you | 12:29 |
| popey | is it working yet? | 12:30 |
| popey | etc | 12:30 |
| mcphail | the "royal" we? | 12:30 |
| popey | ya | 12:30 |
| popey | renatu: when you get a moment - https://bugs.launchpad.net/sync-monitor/+bug/1472973 - one of the insiders reported issues syncing | 12:41 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1472973 in sync-monitor "calendar fails to sync google calendar" [Undecided,New] | 12:41 |
| renatu | popey, thanks, I added a comment on the bug report | 12:54 |
| mcphail | popey: my base image is 693M. Don't think I'm going to be able to host that anywhere useful. Would be faster for anyone to reproduce the build... | 12:54 |
| popey | mcphail: if it's reproducible I can do that and host it | 12:55 |
| popey | ping me the instructions and I'll take a look | 12:55 |
| mcphail | popey: in channel or in /msg? | 12:56 |
| popey | whatever :) | 12:56 |
| popey | a paste somewhere or something is fine | 12:56 |
| mcphail | popey: hokay | 12:56 |
| popey | ta | 12:57 |
| mcphail | popey: think this covers it - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11848280/ . That should give a base armhf vivid install. Would need to add the development packages etc | 13:10 |
| popey | kk, thanks | 13:11 |
| mcphail | popey: gzipped base image is about 350MB | 13:11 |
| mcphail | qemu-user-static is a great little invention | 13:12 |
| popey | ya | 13:14 |
| mcphail | Is the Ubuntu-SDK PPA built for ARM? | 14:20 |
| popey | mcphail: the ppa has that enabled, yes | 14:23 |
| mcphail | good | 14:23 |
| mcphail | If I don't install the SDK, is the "click" package in the standard repos sufficient to build phone packages? | 14:26 |
| popey | mcphail: I don't always build click packages, but when I do, I use the ppa. | 14:38 |
| mcphail | ok, I'll see how I get on | 14:38 |
| popey | jhodapp: question - we now have the ability for apps to intelligently prevent screen off (e.g. in a game) - how about in mediaplayer - when watchin a video in a browser, I don't want the screen to go off. | 14:39 |
| popey | is that on your roadmap? | 14:39 |
| jhodapp | popey, the oxide team is actually adding that right now | 14:43 |
| popey | sweet! | 14:43 |
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| mcphail | nemo: ping | 15:09 |
| nemo | mcphail: \o/ | 15:22 |
| nemo | got it working?? | 15:22 |
| mcphail | nemo: need to remind me of the tweaks you want | 15:22 |
| nemo | mcphail: set MOBILE flag in build, and delete line 43 of hedgewars/options.inc | 15:23 |
| mcphail | nemo: great. I'm on it | 15:23 |
| nemo | cool | 15:24 |
| * nemo crosses fingers | 15:24 | |
| nemo | mcphail: just to doublecheck. line 43 is the HWENGINE one ☺ | 15:24 |
| nemo | since the desktop frontend expects a separate process right now | 15:25 |
| nemo | er | 15:25 |
| nemo | HWLIBRARY | 15:25 |
| mcphail | CMake Warning: Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: MOBILE - is that a problem? | 15:25 |
| mcphail | (btw, I'm using the source tarball in this chroot rather than the git repo...) | 15:27 |
| jhodapp | popey, here's the MR in fact: https://code.launchpad.net/~justinmcp/oxide/1328494/+merge/263998 | 15:27 |
| nemo | mcphail: ack | 15:31 |
| nemo | srs? | 15:31 |
| nemo | hm | 15:31 |
| nemo | wierd... | 15:31 |
| nemo | mcphail: checking cmake setup for engine | 15:32 |
| nemo | also pinging koda | 15:32 |
| nemo | mcphail: since we shifted engine to use cmake build it has had more weird issues and a bit more opaque a build process | 15:33 |
| nemo | (like failing to rebuild on code changes ☹ ) | 15:33 |
| mcphail | nemo: that's a big problem for a build system... | 15:35 |
| nemo | no kidding | 15:35 |
| nemo | spent like an hour once trying to figure out why the hell my change wasn't fixing a bug | 15:36 |
| nemo | before the obv occurred to me | 15:36 |
| nemo | well this is frustrating. I don't see any toggle in CMakeLists.txt for this. might have to manually add it to that file ☹ | 15:37 |
| nemo | but let me poke koda about this | 15:37 |
| nemo | mcphail: that is, I don't see a add_definitions(-dMOBILE) anywhere | 15:37 |
| mcphail | Bah - it has linked against SDL1.2 :( | 15:37 |
| nemo | mcphail: only desktop version | 15:37 |
| nemo | mcphail: mobile has always built against SDL2 | 15:37 |
| nemo | mcphail: the CMakeLists.txt already has: | 15:38 |
| nemo | if(${SDL_VERSION} VERSION_GREATER 1.3) add_definitions(-dSDL2) | 15:38 |
| nemo | endif() | 15:39 |
| nemo | but SDL2 is enabled if you can set MOBILE | 15:39 |
| nemo | hopefully linking is same. seems to be | 15:39 |
| mcphail | nemo: I just used "-DMOBILE=1" as a build flag. Was that the correct way? | 15:39 |
| nemo | mcphail: that's for a cmake flag, but I don't see it being passed on to the engine there | 15:39 |
| nemo | mcphail: I *thought* our CMakeLists.txt would have relayed it. that's what's annoying me | 15:40 |
| nemo | I'm thinking the lack of mobile devs in past few years has triggered bitrot as koda messed w/ CMake | 15:40 |
| nemo | mcphail: you could just add add_definitions(-dMOBILE) to hedgewars/CMakeLists.txt for now | 15:41 |
| nemo | pending consulting w/ him on this | 15:41 |
| nemo | maybe just above add_definitions(-dDEBUGFILE) | 15:41 |
| nemo | on line 209 | 15:41 |
| mcphail | nemo: do I need to delete the Makefile after changing CMakeLists.txt? | 15:43 |
| nemo | mcphail: should detect the change | 15:43 |
| nemo | if you rerun cmake | 15:43 |
| nemo | hell. if you run make | 15:43 |
| mcphail | ok :) | 15:43 |
| nemo | mcphail: what worries me though, is because this is required, it makes me think the CMakeLists.txt currently has no mobile support. which is bad for linking | 15:45 |
| nemo | mcphail: I do hope since we ocassionally screw around with SDL2 that that should work at least ☹ | 15:45 |
| mcphail | nemo: I'm going to do a clean build because this is throwing multiple errors | 15:45 |
| nemo | find_package(SDL1or2) | 15:45 |
| nemo | hopefully it finds 2 ☺ | 15:45 |
| mcphail | nemo: getting stuck with this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11849555/ - any ideas? At least (I think) this suggests it is using SDL2... | 16:24 |
| nemo | oh good | 16:24 |
| nemo | mcphail: that means it is hitting the MOBILE block in the engine which is adding the gles11 unit | 16:25 |
| nemo | mcphail: now, in the old android build, a gles11.pp was provieded in project_files/Android-build but ideally we'd get this from ubuntu's package management | 16:26 |
| nemo | mcphail: I'm checking to see if you guys do in fact package this anywhere ☺ | 16:26 |
| nemo | mcphail: otherwise we could toss it into the dir | 16:26 |
| mcphail | ok | 16:26 |
| sheepluva | nemo: as I said. I don't have any particular knowledge on the issue. but figured can't hurt to hang out here :P | 16:26 |
| nemo | hi sheepluva | 16:26 |
| nemo | trying to coax koda here but apparently hectic day at work for him | 16:26 |
| nemo | hum... not finding it anywhere ☹ | 16:28 |
| sheepluva | 18:26 <@koda> needs gles11 unit | 16:29 |
| sheepluva | 18:26 <@koda> should be checked under fpc unit folder | 16:29 |
| nemo | sheepluva: the only gles11 unit I have is that android custom one | 16:29 |
| nemo | it binds against External_library='GLESv1_CM'; {Setup as you need} | 16:30 |
| nemo | Loadgles11('libGLESv1_CM.so'); | 16:30 |
| nemo | sheepluva: so those would need changing at a minimum | 16:30 |
| nemo | mcphail: hm.. does ubuntu touch need gles11? ☺ | 16:30 |
| nemo | sheepluva: you know, this kinda surprises me 'cause I thought we were using GLES11 across the board now | 16:31 |
| mcphail | nemo: I honestly don'y know :) | 16:31 |
| sheepluva | {$IFDEF MOBILE} {$DEFINE HWLIBRARY} | 16:32 |
| sheepluva | {$DEFINE GLunit:=gles11} {$DEFINE USE_LANDSCAPE_AMMOMENU} {$DEFINE USE_TOUCH_INTERFACE} | 16:32 |
| sheepluva | {$ELSE} | 16:32 |
| nemo | sheepluva: boooo | 16:32 |
| nemo | sheepluva: 1) we got that far already, 2) pastebin 😝 | 16:32 |
| mcphail | nemo: off to do some domestic chores for a while. If you get a solution, I'll catch it in the /lastlog | 16:32 |
| sheepluva | does the build destination? the ubuntu touch thing? doesn't have regular gl? | 16:33 |
| nemo | sheepluva: well ubuntu touch targets mobile devices, so I'm gonna guess GLES is standard on the device. but I had no idea if maybe it had an abstraction layer or something | 16:33 |
| nemo | sheepluva: also, I know that MOBILE sets gles11 but I wasn't sure if that was redundant or not | 16:33 |
| koda | hi | 16:35 |
| nemo | sorry | 16:35 |
| nemo | well. eyeballing the flag, seems gles11 only impacts our code in extension loading | 16:38 |
| nemo | so. assuming opengl apps normally build on an ubuntu touch, and opengl is available.. | 16:38 |
| nemo | gonna guess we could maybe remove GLunit:=gles11 and, possibly if it causes a problem on startup, kill the extension loading | 16:39 |
| nemo | we don't use it for anything important anyway | 16:40 |
| nemo | video recording and 3d rendering | 16:40 |
| nemo | mcphail: ok. you mind deleting that line too? ☺ | 16:40 |
| koda | mcphail: you mean that you are using full fledged gl unit in fpc ? :o | 16:43 |
| mr-tt | hi | 16:43 |
| mr-tt | how can i create a button in qml for ubuntu touch? | 16:44 |
| nemo | koda: well... my problem was that the gles11 stuff seemed custom to android (and maybe iOS) | 16:45 |
| nemo | koda: gles11 isn't provided by the system | 16:45 |
| nemo | so I was hoping we could get away w/ full gl unit | 16:45 |
| koda | no it's custom to *mobile* opengl | 16:45 |
| koda | there are missing functions between gles11 and gl | 16:45 |
| nemo | koda: I mean gles11.pp is under Android-build | 16:45 |
| nemo | koda: uh. why isn't that reflected in the code? | 16:46 |
| nemo | only thing that gles11 seems to flag is extension loading | 16:46 |
| nemo | I thought we targeted GLES11 across the board | 16:46 |
| nemo | and that it was a subset of full gl | 16:46 |
| koda | because the code uses gles11 which matches gl1.0 | 16:46 |
| koda | so it works fine on desktop and amobile | 16:46 |
| nemo | koda: right? thought that's what I was saying | 16:47 |
| nemo | koda: but my point is... if system has gl unit in fpc, then it should just work if gles11 unit is deleted | 16:49 |
| nemo | koda: if it doesn't, because ubuntu touch has phone issues on that front, then will need to adapt the android build unit right? | 16:49 |
| nemo | since I couldn't find an ubuntu package explicitly for it, like, say, fp-unit-gles | 16:50 |
| koda | i don't think so, gles11 comes bundled in the arm fpc package afair | 16:50 |
| nemo | oh realllly | 16:50 |
| nemo | then he should not have gotten a build error eh | 16:50 |
| koda | it depends how the fpc pkg is distributed on ubuntu mobile :p | 16:54 |
| * nemo pokes mcphail | 16:56 | |
| nemo | you mind checking to see if gles11 is under the fpc tree on your build machine? | 16:56 |
| nemo | or, for that matter, any gl unit at all? | 16:56 |
| nemo | that is, under /usr/lib/fpc/*/units probably | 16:57 |
| nemo | koda: the thing is, I *think* this package already exists for ubuntu touch | 17:02 |
| nemo | so that suggests someone is building the entire ecosystem | 17:02 |
| nemo | well. maybe I misunderstood. | 17:02 |
| mcphail | nemo: no gles under /usr/lib/fpc/ anywhere | 17:02 |
| nemo | perhaps it is just packaged for arm, and if it works under ubuntu touch is just luck | 17:02 |
| nemo | mcphail: how about opengl | 17:02 |
| mcphail | nemo: yes - but can't use that on phone | 17:03 |
| nemo | bleh | 17:03 |
| nemo | mcphail: ok... so. the android build used a custom gles11.pp that added bindings against a gles so | 17:03 |
| nemo | it would be *nice* if ubuntu could package this in fashion koda mentioned ☺ | 17:03 |
| nemo | but failing that, could do it manually I guess | 17:03 |
| mcphail | nemo: :) | 17:04 |
| nemo | mcphail: I was kinda hoping that possibly ubuntu was providing an opengl stub against gles11 - for apps that might possibly work w/ it. | 17:04 |
| nemo | mcphail: hm... | 17:04 |
| nemo | koda: hey. question. | 17:04 |
| nemo | koda: if the build was against the gl fpc, but we only used gles11 routines... | 17:05 |
| nemo | er. wait. no... would require the gl lib to target the phone gles. nm | 17:05 |
| nemo | guess that unit isn't even built for touch | 17:06 |
| nemo | probably would be missing stuff | 17:06 |
| mcphail | nemo: I don't know anything about pascal so can't offer any suggestions | 17:06 |
| nemo | mcphail: well... if I knew the name of the gles11 library on the phone could try adapting https://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/source/browse/project_files/Android-build/gles11.pp I guess ☹ | 17:07 |
| nemo | mcphail: could file a bug against ubuntu touch asking for that mobile targetted arm package, but I guess that's lol | 17:07 |
| mcphail | nemo: just the name of the package giving the C libs for gles? | 17:07 |
| nemo | mcphail: well... reading that gles11.pp says it was automatically generated | 17:08 |
| nemo | but, most of it seems pretty generic | 17:08 |
| nemo | so I was hoping I could simply update Loadgles11('libGLESv1_CM.so'); to be your libgles name | 17:08 |
| nemo | then toss gles11.pp into hedgewars/ | 17:09 |
| nemo | or well. have you do both of those 😝 | 17:09 |
| mcphail | libGLESv2.so.2.0.0 and libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0 | 17:10 |
| nemo | ooooh | 17:10 |
| nemo | srs! | 17:10 |
| nemo | cool. so maybe don't have to do anything | 17:11 |
| nemo | I bet libGLESv1_CM.so.1.1.0 is probably symlinked to libGLESv1_CM.so | 17:11 |
| nemo | mcphail: ok. cp project_files/Android-build/gles11.pp hedgewars/ | 17:11 |
| nemo | aaaand cross fingers I guess | 17:11 |
| mcphail | nemo: well, we get a _different_ error :) | 17:12 |
| nemo | yay | 17:12 |
| nemo | 😝 | 17:12 |
| koda | nebtw the gles11.pp is just a copy of the fpc version, so there is no problem in bundling for ubuntu touch imho | 17:13 |
| mcphail | nemo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11849907/ | 17:13 |
| nemo | hmmm | 17:13 |
| nemo | ♥ hg grep | 17:14 |
| nemo | is teh awesome | 17:14 |
| nemo | specifically hg grep --all | 17:14 |
| nemo | thought so. sheepluva added that last june | 17:15 |
| nemo | symptom of bitrot in our mobile stuff | 17:15 |
| nemo | good news tho | 17:15 |
| nemo | mcphail: he just failed to ifdef enough I think | 17:15 |
| nemo | {$IFDEF USE_S3D_RENDERING OR USE_VIDEO_RECORDING} | 17:15 |
| mcphail | aah. | 17:15 |
| nemo | is around the body of the createframebuffer | 17:16 |
| nemo | but not the header | 17:16 |
| mcphail | nemo: paste me a patch or new file and I'll switch it around | 17:16 |
| nemo | mcphail: hm... | 17:16 |
| nemo | mcphail: well. I'm not sure what you are using. the branch? | 17:16 |
| nemo | I just want that ifdef above around those 2 calls | 17:17 |
| nemo | on your lines 81 and 82 of uRender | 17:17 |
| nemo | mcphail: 0.9.21 + ubuntu patches? | 17:17 |
| mcphail | nemo: just the 0.9.21 tarball from the site | 17:18 |
| nemo | 'k | 17:19 |
| nemo | hang on then | 17:19 |
| mcphail | can I just comment those lines out? | 17:20 |
| nemo | you could, but I was testing locally and hit another one | 17:20 |
| nemo | USE_S3D_RENDERING is not enabled for mobile, and RenderClear has same issue | 17:20 |
| nemo | procedure RenderClear (mode: TRenderMode); | 17:20 |
| nemo | will need that too | 17:20 |
| nemo | ugh. DrawWorld too. maaaan | 17:21 |
| nemo | mcphail: ok. made some minor changes to dev for those flags | 17:30 |
| nemo | mcphail: going to transplant them into the .21 branch and pack 'em up for you as a diff | 17:30 |
| nemo | just eyeballing it *seems* like the game should still work just w/ the ifdef tweaks ☺ | 17:30 |
| nemo | transplant 'cause I think the branch is too old to merge anymore | 17:31 |
| SturmFlut | Months ago we couldn't even get SDL working, and now you guys are working on the third SDL game port I know of. Oh wow. | 17:41 |
| nemo | mcphail: ok. builds w/ s3d and video recording turned off now. transplanted it onto the branch. but not worth you getting it I think | 17:43 |
| nemo | mcphail: simply disabling those 2 lines is enough on the branch. all the rest is in .22-dev | 17:43 |
| nemo | well. "the rest" one more function and a compiler error in uWorld | 17:44 |
| nemo | https://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/source/detail?r=a0b9b678b46eccd0c66273c4f6bb016b9586d2be&name=0.9.21 fwiw | 17:44 |
| nemo | but nice to get mobile bitrot under control again \o/ | 17:45 |
| nemo | mcphail: we need to properly support MOBILE as a cmake flag, and maybe provide gles11 if the system isn't providing it | 17:45 |
| nemo | don't want to add gles11.pp outright ofc, to avoid overriding system version | 17:46 |
| mcphail | nemo: was afk. Give me a minute and I'll check that out | 17:52 |
| nemo | SturmFlut: TBH I thought this was just gonna be flip a flag and go ☺ | 17:54 |
| nemo | SturmFlut: or I would have probably stayed in my channel 😝 | 17:54 |
| nemo | but nice to see all that mobile work from iOS and Android days so many years ago actually get some use | 17:54 |
| nemo | mcphail: hm... gotta go in a couple of minutes | 17:55 |
| nemo | or I'l get stuck in traffic for sure and miss kid's class | 17:55 |
| mcphail | nemo: np - will have to go soon anyway. Got a bit further then - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11850158/ | 17:56 |
| nemo | huh... | 17:56 |
| nemo | koda: ↑ | 17:57 |
| nemo | don't see where that should be coming from | 17:58 |
| nemo | but gotta go | 17:58 |
| koda | nemo: 365: fingers[index].id := nilFingerId; | 17:58 |
| koda | some leftover probably | 17:59 |
| koda | mcphail: should be enough to remove it | 17:59 |
| mcphail | ok - it compiles but I'm now getting a raft of SDL linker errors. Might have to give up on this for the evening | 18:02 |
| mcphail | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11850217/ | 18:04 |
| * mcphail gives up for the evening and decides to _play_ hedgewars instead | 18:20 | |
| popey | hah | 18:20 |
| popey | thats the spirit | 18:20 |
| mr-tt | how do i write to a file and read from it in an app? ./file doesn't seem to work | 18:22 |
| mr-tt | i suppose i need to specify a path where writing is allowed. but where is that? | 18:23 |
| mcphail | It would be brilliant to get this game on the phone. Never played it before | 18:31 |
| ahoneybun | how do I take screenshots with the command line? | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | phablet-tools does not exist | 18:40 |
| popey | the command is phablet-screenshot | 18:41 |
| popey | which is in the phablet-tools package | 18:41 |
| mr-tt | anyone can tell me where to store a file from an app? | 18:42 |
| ahoneybun | oh ok thans popey | 18:42 |
| popey | np | 18:42 |
| ahoneybun | *thanks | 18:42 |
| popey | mr-tt: the standard XDG directories | 18:42 |
| mr-tt | popey: so it has rw access to all .config .local etc? | 18:43 |
| popey | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/app-confinement/ | 18:43 |
| popey | look for xdg on that page | 18:43 |
| popey | right at the bottom | 18:43 |
| mr-tt | popey: how do i read the env variable from qt? | 18:45 |
| popey | not sure :) | 18:45 |
| mr-tt | ah nevermind, i know what the var is | 18:47 |
| mr-tt | ~/.config/appname/file should work | 18:47 |
| SturmFlut | There is a Qt component that gives you the application path, but where is that stupid e-mail with the name :/ can't find it | 18:53 |
| * popey wanders off for pizza | 18:54 | |
| popey | ttfn | 18:54 |
| mcphail | Can't you just use good old getenv from the c stdlib? | 18:55 |
| SturmFlut | path = QStandardPaths::writableLocation(QStandardPaths::DataLocation) | 18:57 |
| ahoneybun | I'm having a problem with PageStack: http://imgur.com/RudP3Cc | 20:00 |
| ahoneybun | code: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11851060/ | 20:00 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: have you used PageStack before? | 20:21 |
| ahoneybun | ahayzen: check this out: https://twitter.com/ATHoneycutt/status/619223728585580546 | 20:22 |
| popey | ahayzen: do you have a click for me to submit to QA? | 20:25 |
| popey | or do you want me to submit trunk? | 20:25 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: the code on your pastebin does not get me the screen of the screenshot | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun | really? | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun | oh right | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun | t1mp: you'll need this file called Tips.qml: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11851234/ | 20:28 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: you need to put the Flickable in Tips inside a Page | 20:32 |
| t1mp | so put Page { } around your Flickable | 20:32 |
| ahoneybun | it happens on the other pages as well and they don't have flickable | 20:32 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: and set the title of the Page to "Welcome to Ubuntu" | 20:33 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: I mean like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11851271/ | 20:34 |
| ahoneybun | oh ok t1mp | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | will i18n.tr work with "title" as well? | 20:37 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: yes | 20:39 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 20:39 |
| ahoneybun | it looks really good now | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | t1mp: now to get it on my device.. | 20:41 |
| ahoneybun | it will not deploy for some reason | 20:41 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: sorry, I don't know. I would propose to deploy from QtC but I don't know how that works internally | 20:43 |
| ahoneybun | it does with my other WIP app | 20:43 |
| ahoneybun | but not uBegginer at the moment | 20:43 |
| t1mp | ahoneybun: try to catch mhall119 or zbenjamin (maybe tomorrow, it is late at night in europe now) | 20:43 |
| ahoneybun | thanks t1mp | 20:44 |
| t1mp | yw | 20:44 |
| ahoneybun | I think I see why | 20:46 |
| ahoneybun | the package name | 20:46 |
| ahayzen | popey, trunk please :-) readme should be up to date | 20:56 |
| popey | sweet | 21:00 |
| popey | will do in the morning | 21:00 |
| * popey adds to to-do | 21:00 | |
| popey | I have a handy job on my laptop which runs at 7am and builds all the core apps from trunk | 21:00 |
| popey | for easy testing :) | 21:00 |
| ahayzen | popey, awesome :-) | 21:01 |
| popey | even builds fat packages :) | 21:01 |
| popey | oh, and rsyncs them over to my server :) http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/daily_clicks/ | 21:01 |
| ahoneybun | well I just found a security issue | 21:42 |
| ahoneybun | in Ubuntu Touch | 21:42 |
| JanC | ahoneybun: please report it! | 23:22 |
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