[10:57] <flocculant> both the qa.ubuntu.com sites are showing Service Temporarily Unavailable since at least yesterday
[13:34] <balloons> flocculant, indeed you are right. The upgrades clearly didn't go well
[15:39] <flocculant> balloons: thanks - didn't know the why - just the result - so shouted out
[15:40] <balloons> flocculant, thanks for bringing it up. They are back online again :_)
[15:48] <flocculant> \o/
[19:21] <jhodapp> Is there a way I can have an integration test (using QTest) run in a silo only for certain architectures?
[19:25] <balloons> jhodapp, interesting thought. I'm not sure what options exist for qtest off the top of my head
[19:25] <balloons> would you want to limit by arch or would by device by enough?
[19:26] <jhodapp> balloons, by arch, basically I can only run these tests on any of the actual phone targets but it can't run on the desktop yet since media-hub doesn't run there yet without crashing
[19:28] <balloons> right.. we would normally see to do that by merely excluding the desktop, which sounds like it would work
[19:28] <jhodapp> balloons, where would you actually specify to exclude the desktop?
[19:32] <balloons> johnlage, you can use skip() to skip a testcase. I'm thinking about how you could know in qt when you have a device or desktop
[19:32] <jhodapp> balloons, ok
[19:34] <balloons> you can check properties.  perhaps there is a nice property you could check
[19:37] <jhodapp> balloons, got an example of a property?
[19:37] <jhodapp> balloons, in terms of what you're thinking
[19:38] <balloons> jhodapp, no idea.. That's as far as I can take you offhand I'm afraid
[19:38] <balloons> In autopilot there is a nice method to tell you. I don't know of anything in ubuntutest or qtest offhand
[19:39] <jhodapp> balloons, ok let me know if you think of anything more specific
[19:39] <jhodapp> but thanks
[21:32] <Noskcaj> balloons, There's a guy joining the ubuntu-gnome team who wants to make documentation videos. Did any of the old "how to do testing" cideos need a rework? It might be good to start him on them
[21:34] <knome> Noskcaj, does he know much about testing?
[21:36] <Noskcaj> knome, Probably not, he says it's the first time he's done open source stuff. It's not super hard to pick up on, especially if it's just re-making a video so it's on a current release
[21:38] <knome> there's that, but otoh it would be know that they actually knew what they were talking about and not just blindly copying
[21:38] <knome> i don't think he needs to be expert on testing, but it would be nice if he had done a few tests himself before he records the video
[21:39] <knome> that way he'll bump to the potential questions before he's deep in the making
[21:42] <balloons> knome, Noskcaj howdy
[21:42] <balloons> indeed, might be a problem to re-create things. Not a bad idea for him to make some videos though. Tell him to make videos as he learns.
[21:43] <balloons> No reason to try and copy what I've done anyway :-) Stuff from his perspective would be better
[21:44] <knome> yep
[21:44] <knome> and there's no perspective without knowledge...
[21:45] <knome> well at least some..
[21:48] <Noskcaj> ok