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daftykinsi hope those mother spiders don't push out too many little babies, i've already despatched 50 in my bathroom :S00:07
mapps hi all05:40
daftykinslo05:41
mapps';]05:45
mappsscream tv series isnt too bad;D05:45
daftykinsyou should buy a bike and give the TV a rest! :>05:46
mappslol well apartments so small where would i put it05:47
mappsi find it weird how people keep bikes in their lounge lol05:47
daftykinswherever it fits \o/05:47
daftykinsat the office :D05:47
mappsheh05:55
daftykinshmm ordered some phone cases that don't fit, gotta pop them back in the post box today05:57
daftykinsthe ebay seller said just to mark them 'return to sender' 0o05:57
mappsmaybe he has some special business ac06:00
mappsso you can do that and it just charges him?06:00
mappsangels game bases loaded 2 out 2-1 count hm06:00
daftykinsi'd have thought the standard PO lets you do that though06:01
daftykinsah that reminds me06:02
daftykinsRoyals won today \o/06:02
mappssurely not tho06:05
mappsas if i send to you and you put rts on it06:05
mappssurely they wont send it back to me for free06:05
daftykinsguess i've never done it to know06:05
knightworkmorning everyone07:02
MooDoomorning07:17
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knightworkmorning moodoo, how are you today07:25
MooDooknightwork: come into work and a printer isn't working that's a high volume printer, other than that ok :D lol07:27
knightworkouch , not a good thing .07:30
knightwork hmm.. i need to install my old raspberry pi into my DMZ to run some apps and services so I can reach them from the web07:30
* awilkins has a Pi2 running his Redmine server07:53
awilkinsUgh, my co-worker is asking for a copy of my Windows VM07:56
awilkinsHave impressed upon him the lack of legality of cloning a Windows VM with no license key07:57
awilkinsWell, I have a license key. I paid for it.07:57
knightworkawilkins: Im running a lot of apps over SSH but work don"t allow that port out from the firewall08:03
knightworkso i'm thinking of opening up an https web based shell08:04
awilkinsYou could just get SSH to listen on a different port that they do allow out...08:05
awilkinsOr think up a convincing reason why you need outbound SSH access :-)08:05
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knightworkhmm.. i could try porting the SSH port to 44308:06
davmor2Morning all08:23
MooDoomorning08:23
davmor2MooDoo: I have a song in my head....It goes "Startreking across the universe, in the us enterprise, under captain Kirk"08:26
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:28
davmor2bigcalm: Has Haley got a job that starts early or something and she is waking you up?08:29
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:29
bigcalmdavmor2: :P08:29
popeyknightwork: i used to run ssh on 443 when I was behind a proxy/firewall, worked fine08:41
MooDoodavmor2: can't you find reverse?08:44
davmor2MooDoo: release week there is only forwards08:44
MooDoolol :D08:46
knightworkpopey: portable putty to 443 , that should work i guess .. no ?08:47
knightworkunless they run a protocol based firewall and not a port based firewall08:47
shauno443 used to work for us, until they moved to a https proxy mess.  "suck it and see" is really the only way to find out08:48
knightworkI can basically forward 2 ports on the outside to one port on the inside08:49
diploI do this for a friend for his machine at my work, opened 443 as he only has 80 and 443 available out of his work08:52
popeycorkscrew works well08:59
popeyA Z88 just arrived here :)09:00
shaunoI ended up just getting a 3g dongle for the office.  'my stuff' lives on my laptop on my connection, and work stuff, on their machine on their network.  the less the two meet, the better09:00
davmor2popey: oh spectrum are making computers again ;)09:01
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Sugar Cookie Day! 😃09:02
davmor2JamesTait: \o/ finally a day to actually celebrate \o/09:02
JamesTaitdavmor2, and totally on-topic as well!09:03
davmor2JamesTait: if anyone every tells you that cookies are not on-topic slap them they need the shock to brink them back to their senses ;)09:04
davmor2s/every/ever09:04
JamesTaits/brink/bring09:05
davmor2JamesTait: meh you know what I mean :)09:05
JamesTaitdavmor2, I'm so used to you spotting my mistakes, I couldn't resist the opportunity to turn the tables. 😉09:07
davmor2JamesTait: meh I'll just prod your code latter an make you cry09:08
JamesTaitI know.09:08
davmor2later even09:08
davmor2see you missed one :P09:09
* JamesTait sighs09:09
JamesTaitAnd so it begins.09:09
JamesTait😝09:09
davmor2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkBS4O3yvY so funny09:40
popeyyeah, i enjoyed that09:46
davmor2popey: not used to seeing jimmy from ncis without his glasses though :)09:47
foobarryhow can i jump to a previous point in time on a prolific users twitter feed? i want to see a tweet they posted in 2014, and search isn't finding it10:14
foobarryand scrolling is taking forever10:15
awilkinsDoes twitter even retain data for that long?10:17
awilkinsfoobarry, You could use an API I suppose10:17
davmor2foobarry: open you browser, in the url/google search put site:<twitter_feed> search term that should trim it down a little10:19
davmor2and then hope twitter keeps things from that far back10:20
popeyhttps://twitter.com/search-advanced?lang=en10:32
popeyhas date selection10:32
foobarrythanks popey that works well :D11:03
diplodirecthex: I use syncthing on my droid phones for images, as soon as it comes into range it syncs them off, same with music11:23
diploRunning 15.04 here and no issues at all with MTP though ( LG G2 )11:25
bigcalmMy machine had been randomly freezing a few mins after booting. In fear that it was the ram giving out, I upgraded it to the max of 16gb. It hadn't frozen again until this morning and I feared the worse. Turned out, this time, that the battery in my mouse had died. Hope I didn't throw 100 quid down the drain for a dead mouse battery11:27
diplolol11:27
directhexXD11:28
directhexi can beat that11:28
awilkinsThe MS bots in the channel are now reporting this to their superiors11:28
diplo:D11:28
diploNot sure it was nice to laugh, but it did actually make me chuckle11:28
awilkins"Hey, great idea, how about we keep the Windows licence key in volatile RAM ... in the mouse?"11:28
directhexi bought my first TFT monitor, a £400 15" iiyama, because my old monitor stopped displaying anything11:28
directhexafter the order was placed, I twiddled the contrast knob...11:28
awilkinshahahaa11:29
bigcalmNice!11:29
bigcalmOne way to force yourself into an upgrade11:29
awilkinsI had to upgrade my OS because I installed a game that needed a newer version for the DRM components...11:30
awilkins... upgraded from Win2k ... to Vista11:30
awilkins<puke emoticon>11:31
diploGod Vista was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad11:31
awilkinsHave you noticed that puke emoticons seem to have completely vanished?11:31
zmoylan-pii only upgraded from win2000 when itunes stopped working on it.  last version of windows i liked.  made me switch to mac and then linux11:31
diploStill on Skype/MSN awilkins :)11:32
awilkinsAndroid is too good-twoshoes to have it11:33
zmoylan-pia mate bought a vista laptop cheap.  512mb of ram... shared with video... slow... took 8 hours to remove and install broken antivirus and updates11:33
awilkinsWin2k was great11:33
zmoylan-pilite fast, configurable11:33
zmoylan-piand no activation silliness11:34
diploFound a couple if discs for it the other day :)11:34
zmoylan-pii have a few discs for it i burned... somewhere11:35
MooDooi think i have a copy of atleast all ms install discs, probably in a safe place somewhere12:17
awilkinsMSDN Libraries for the win12:48
awilkinsAlways a useful source of install disks12:48
MooDooyup that's how i've got the disks :D12:52
MooDootechnet for me though12:53
shaunococo pops for breakfast, coco pops for lunch .. working from home has made me realise why everyone was going nuts for those little snackbox-by-mail things a couple of years back13:20
zmoylan-pinah you need smarties in a bowl covered in milk...13:21
popeymmm cow juice13:23
shaunoas long as they're chocolate cows :)13:33
zmoylan-picocomoo13:35
awilkinsI got some of that Joylent stuff13:59
awilkinsIt fills in the gaps very nicely when you're too lazy to cook14:00
foobarryis that like soylent?14:00
awilkinsYeah14:00
awilkinsIt's the euro version of Soylent14:00
shaunoI tried that for a while too.  doesn't work too bad when it's just replacing a meal or two a day.  not sure I could live on the stuff14:01
shaunoeg, I usually have cooked breakfast & lunch at work, so it wasn't a bad way to lazy out of dinner14:01
shaunoI think the only problem I really had was that I got sick of strawberry flavour quite quickly14:02
awilkinsI got the special edition "Green"£14:02
awilkinsIt was apple flavour. Wasn't happy that they made it green by adding blue and yellow food colouring though14:03
shaunoI got a mixed pack because I couldn't decide.  turned out to be a good idea I think.  not sure I could stick on any one flavour for days at a time14:03
awilkinsVanilla was boring14:04
zmoylan-piis joylent green made of people? :-)14:06
shaunoI do believe it's less than 40% people14:07
zmoylan-piis it made of vegetarians?14:07
shaunopeople-flavour would be interesting I think.  I guess it should be vaguely like cured ham?14:08
shaunoand it'd sure as heck get them back in the press14:08
daubersshauno: That'll vary from person to person14:08
shaunohow so?14:09
zmoylan-pimmmm a little of everything... :-) https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/12.jpg14:09
daubersshauno: bad futurama reference14:10
daubershttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0584439/quotes14:10
shaunoahh14:11
shaunoI actually ended up calling it 'slurm'14:11
shaunothere's another one floating around now too, called 'huel'.  haven't tried it, but they claim to be nutritionists14:13
shaunothe guy behind joylent is overly honest.  he claims to have read some stuff on the internet14:13
foobarryslurm is a resource scheduler14:32
foobarryi have a slurm tshirt14:32
zmoylan-pidid it come with a brainslug hat? :-)14:33
foobarryi have a redhat redhat14:33
foobarryits a fedora14:33
zmoylan-pii have a tux baseball cap14:36
zmoylan-pigot it back in days of red hat 5.2...14:36
foobarryanyone use irssi libnotify?14:41
foobarryi have a redhat cap too14:41
foobarry2 actually14:41
foobarryand a few plush tuxes14:41
zmoylan-pii have 1-2 penguin toys about the place from penguin pencil parer to penguin ash tray and squeaky toy penguin14:43
popeyi tried libnotify14:44
popeybut didn't enjoy it, so use irssinotifier14:44
popeyirssinotifier+ in fact14:44
zmoylan-pithe squeaky toy penguin is great of linux meetups as it's just right size to fit on table and the amount of geeks who enjoy making it squeak14:44
foobarrypopey: libnotify got a rewrite14:46
foobarryhttps://github.com/stickster/irssi-libnotify14:46
popeythat presumes irssi locally?14:47
popeyoh, ew, ssh back from my server, no14:48
davmor2popey: what you need is a byobu plugin that has a big red alert at the bottom with the irssi details :)14:48
popeythat presumes i have irssi on top of other windows14:48
popeywhich if it is, i dont need any nofitifcations14:49
popeyif it isn't then I wont see that14:49
davmor2popey: what you need is a robotic arm that slaps you everytime I ping you let me work on that :P14:49
* foobarry confused14:49
foobarryIf you are running irssi remotely, currently your remote machine14:50
foobarryaccount would need to be able to SSH back to your local box without a14:50
foobarrypassphrase.14:50
foobarryah14:50
foobarrymeh, thats unsatisfactory14:50
foobarryhow does notifier+ work14:50
foobarryis that your phone?14:50
popeyandroid tablet on my desk14:50
popeylike a second screen14:50
foobarryactually for most purposes i do run irssi locally14:51
foobarryso this could work OK for me14:51
popeyi guess i could run irssi locally and proxy through irssi on my server14:51
foobarryi don't like having to keep irssi visible, it makes me OCD14:51
foobarrycan it do that? like a client?14:51
davmor2popey: you can run irssi proxy, have it email you whenever you get a ping, then you could run irssi locally and connect to irssi proxy and have it libnotify14:52
popeyshush14:52
popeyyes, you can run irssi remotely and just ssh in and use it in screen14:52
popeybut also load the proxy module and connect in from another copy of irssi elsewhere14:52
popeytempted, did that before, can't recall why I stopped14:52
foobarrymight look into that14:54
diddledanallo folks14:55
davmor2popey: proxy mode is what I use with xchat as a client to it.  I just don't like how irssi handles tabs14:55
shaunothat's pretty much exactly what I do.  got a script that pushes msgs to my phone if I'm /away14:55
davmor2shauno: I have it push to email then I get a ping on my tablet and I check dekko on my phone fairly often because I'm sad :)14:56
foobarrylinux voice latest free download had a big section on irc clients14:56
dauberspopey: just train one of your cats to tell you when someone notifies you on irc?14:58
zmoylan-pithey'll pounce on your face at 3am when someone pings you...14:59
* diddledan pings zmoylan-pi 15:01
diddledan16:01 -!- CTCP PING reply from zmoylan-pi: 1.1869985 seconds15:01
zmoylan-pithe cats here are smarter than that.  i thank the gods for nerf :-)15:01
foobarryWFH means that i have checked facebook less than normal15:25
nigelbfoobarry: WFH means you work more hours too.15:26
nigelbIt's hard to stop.15:26
davmor2zmoylan-pi: the thumb cat regime is coming for you armed to the hilt with mega nerf's ;)15:27
zmoylan-pii have mega nerf too15:27
diddledanthumbcats are evil!15:28
davmor2zmoylan-pi: there are more of them :P15:28
zmoylan-pithe local cat population loyal to me will swing the battle in my favour15:29
foobarrycats are loyal to nothing15:33
diddledanfoobarry: except the overthrow of humanity15:35
foobarryif that happened, they would then overthrow other cats. just like all the revolutionaries15:42
diddledanwhy do the press think that microsoft are going to include caveats on their "upgrades for the life of the device" promise17:02
diddledanthe latest is that a presentation includes the text "Revenue allocated is deferred and recognized on a straight-line basis over the estimated period the software upgrades are expected to be provided by estimated device life, which can range from two to four years." which several sites say means that windows will suddenly stop working somewhere between 2 and 4 years17:02
diddledanit sounds to me like the presentation is detailing how MS will calculate profit17:03
shaunobecause they already have ?17:03
diddledanrather than "we won't let people use windows until they pay moar"17:03
shauno"we will continue to keep it current via Windows Update for the supported lifetime of the device - at no cost."17:03
shauno"supported lifetime" _is_ a caveat.17:04
diddledanshauno: exactly, at no cost - these sites say after 2-4 years you have to pay17:04
shaunowell, I guess we have to wait to find out what a "supported lifetime" is to figure that out17:05
shaunoit could very well be 2-3 years if it's a warranty lifetime17:05
shaunoI can understand them waiting for the fine print, is all :)17:08
diddledanthey're not waiting tho - they're announcing "OMG THE END IS NEIGH (in 2-4 years)"17:08
* p42phone waits at Euston for a train back to civilisation17:22
diddledaneep17:23
diddledanthat's scaryville17:23
diddledan:-p17:23
p42phoneMore concrete vil17:23
ali1234the thing is literally nobody upgrades windows on computers any more17:26
ali1234in fact they go out of their way to avoid it17:27
ali1234people only upgrade because they got a new computer17:27
* p42phone has spent the last 4 days at project meetings but at least the weather has been nice to walk around in the evenings17:27
shaunothis rolling release thing might actually help that, I think17:27
ali1234yes that is clearly the point17:27
ali1234patching windows xp for 10 years or whatever must have been expensive17:28
ali1234that cost probably exceeded the revenue for windows xp -> vista upgrade licenses17:28
diddledandaftykins: new build today19:49
daftykinsAGAIN!?19:49
daftykins:D19:49
diddledan:-p19:49
daftykinssomething super duper exciting happened today!19:49
diddledanoh?19:49
daftykinsexcuse the URL but it allows avoidance of dropbox's fail...19:49
daftykinshttps://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/2/AADMovkkWIZ9Hz-ZDMvYbMzTqhfbuoXWjwCz-gU0uU4iKw/12/54276969/jpeg/32x32/1/1436475600/0/2/IMG_20150709_110715.jpg/COnm8BkgASACIAMgBCAFIAYgBygCKAc/wvL-usNa_J8UEIZRFhNzyqKEoI5gbQVuVrfs7VNcogU?size=1280x960&size_mode=219:49
daftykinsmy bike parts came \o/19:49
diddledanooh19:50
diddledannow to build a steam-powered spider19:50
daftykins:D19:50
daftykinsmore bike porn will be shared later19:50
diddledanI really loved that film19:50
daftykinswild wild west?19:50
diddledanI liked the steampunkyness19:50
diddledanyeah19:50
daftykinssaw my dad watching it once, but never seen19:50
diddledanit's one that I can imagine the critics hated19:51
diddledancritics seem unable to have fun19:51
diddledanthey for some reason need arty farty stuff19:51
diddledanlike a person acting as a tree19:51
daftykinsindeed, muchly flawed19:51
diddledanthe kind of stuff that you imagine drama school to be encouraging19:52
diddledanlike interpretive dance19:52
daftykins*shudder*19:52
diddledanindeed19:52
daftykinsthat made me think back to having forced drama lessons in secondary school19:52
diddledanI like a jolly good romp19:52
daftykinsevery time: "now i want you all to..."19:53
daftykins<me> wat19:53
diddledanyeah back in school.. those things were evil - in our school it was so inane that the teacher wasn't the one driving the lesson - the lesson was a recorded radio4 programme19:53
daftykinswow19:54
daftykinsdid the teacher normally take a real subject?19:54
diddledanyeah these were in primary school so we had the same teacher for everything. we had separate teachers in secondary school - that was more sane19:55
daftykinsah yes19:55
diddledanI didn't mind secondary school drama becasue we did proper acting19:55
daftykinssaid Sir Patrick Stewart19:56
daftykins:>19:56
diddledanlol19:56
diddledanI really love patrick's shakespearian delivery of cpt picard19:56
diddledanit really made the series for me19:56
diddledanI thought he was awesome19:56
diddledanhe also wasn't averse to the overacting that is required for startrek :-p19:57
daftykins:D19:57
daftykinsguy we know over in upstate NY has been repairing sewing machines of late19:58
daftykinsgot to say "make it sew" for real ;_;19:58
shaunobest worst delivery of a frenchman ever?19:58
diddledano_O19:58
diddledanlol19:58
diddledanshauno: haha19:58
daftykinsi like to think he was just named by a cruel person and moved somewhere foolish19:58
* daftykins whistles19:58
shaunoactually, that's what I might do this evening.  I gave up after search for spock the other night20:00
daftykinsi watched them all in order recently, does seem to not be worth it after that :>20:00
shaunoand entirely regretted it when I had to sit through a two hour conference call on changes in the complaints process after having neglected to sleep :/20:00
diddledanI've still not seen the starwarts eps 2 and 3, I really must watch the entire series of 6 (including jarjar stinks) in-order to get ready for ep720:00
shaunono no.  you must not.20:01
shaunoit's not worth it man20:01
daftykinsshauno: new policy, complaint = air lock -> space.20:01
shaunospaaaaaaaaaaaace20:01
shauno(Sorry)20:01
shaunohm, I wonder if my netflix is still broken20:02
daftykinsi think everyones is... i hear they can remove content - with no warning! D:20:03
daftykins:)20:03
foobarrybeing over 40 hurts20:04
foobarrymy brain can't be bothered to read long man pages any more20:04
foobarrylike get-iplayer pvr features20:05
daftykinsi feel like man pages are written by engineers who really hate doing documentation20:05
diddledanshauno: it's a good job netflix chose the right font: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/be/84/89/be8489aee0a8076750e85f40f4942559.jpg20:05
daftykinsso they write it so you will hate them20:05
shaunoI don't have much problem with them removing content20:07
shaunotheir irish offering much more suffers from never adding content in the first place20:07
daftykinsah i see20:08
daftykinsVPN o'clock? :) or other such sneaky tech20:08
shaunoright, that's what I mean by broken :)  the only real use for netflix here is if you "happen" to have a "broken" network config :)20:09
daftykinshmm my mates mate hasn't fixed tvcatchup.com being geoIP banned here on the rocks yet :P20:12
diddledanyour mate's mate?!20:13
diddledanyou have friends in high places?????20:13
daftykinsruns the service :)20:14
diddledanjeez, that's sneaky20:14
foobarryget-iplayer --pvr doesn't seem to download anything or give errors20:14
daftykinsdiddledan: the way tvcatchup avoids the regs?20:15
shaunodo you have anything in --pvr-list  ?20:15
foobarryyes20:15
diddledandaftykins: nah, knowing the guy20:15
foobarrypvr-list looks weird actually20:15
daftykinsah20:16
diddledano_O windows IoT for the pi has a few elf binaries20:16
daftykinsyeah pretty jammy :> although i don't watch TV20:16
foobarryfixed the list, still no worky20:16
foobarrycan anyone share a working --pvr-list output?20:16
foobarryis it case sensitive?20:17
shaunohm, mine are all the correct case, but I suspect they were pasted from search results20:18
foobarry./get_iplayer --pvr-add=Morph "Morph" --tvmode=best --channel="CBeebies" --output "~/Videos/TV/Morph" --type=tv --fileprefix="<nameshort>-<senum>-<episodeshort>"20:20
davmor2diddledan: I've met them, they help santa Juan and Nil20:20
foobarryaaaagh its on CBBC20:21
foobarrysorry20:21
foobarryoh, still no worky20:21
diddledanfoobarry: what's the second Morph do?20:24
diddledan--pvr-add=Morph "Morph"20:24
foobarryone is the pvr name20:24
foobarrysecond one is the search string20:24
diddledanok, try putting the search last20:24
davmor2diddledan: those are the binary elves you're on about right :D20:26
foobarrydonesn't work still20:26
foobarrysorry guys,20:28
foobarrygot it working now20:29
foobarryi'd previously done a search/download of morph, and although it wasn't in the intended directory, it must have been cached somewhere that i'd downloaded before20:30
foobarrytried the clangers and it worked20:30
foobarrycan't believe it took me so long to get round to this pvr mode20:37
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