[04:58] <ahoneybun> sgclark: shadeslayer ovidiu-florin https://waffle.io/
[07:49] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: nice
[08:17] <sick_rimmit> Good Morning, Woo Hoo its Friday
[08:49] <yossarianuk> is korganizer slightly broken ?
[08:49] <yossarianuk> notifications don't work - until you reboot (and you get all of them on startup) 
[08:49] <yossarianuk> Also its using up a lot of memory (more than anything else)
[08:49] <yossarianuk> plasma 5.3.1.
[08:52] <vip> hi ho
[08:53] <yossarianuk> i.e i am connected to one (google) calendar  and its using up 2 GB RAM.
[08:53] <yossarianuk> more than firefox,chrome , etc at themin
[09:24] <yossarianuk> shall I report a bug or is it known as a memory raper ?
[10:47] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:49] <BluesKaj> G'Day folks
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi again
[14:46] <sick_rimmit> Hi folks
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> I broke it I am afraid :-(
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> I have problem with Intel framebuffer driver, which busted Plasma.
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> I fixed this by deleting lots of .config files that had been modified in the previous 45 minutes
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> I know...
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> :-)
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> However, I got most things working again, but I have broken Akonadi
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> It refuses to start..
[14:48] <sick_rimmit> My plannn
[14:49] <sick_rimmit> apt-get remove and reinstall
[14:49] <sick_rimmit> just wondering if you folks have any different advice..
[14:49] <sick_rimmit> like does it have a reconfigure itself function ?
[14:49] <lordievader> Does a new user have the same problem, besides support is in #kubuntu ;)
[14:53] <ahoneybun> its rick!
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> Ta Da
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> hi ahoneybun
[14:56] <ahoneybun> hey sick_rimmit
[14:57] <sick_rimmit> Nice thinking lordievader
[14:57] <sick_rimmit> I will create one a try it
[14:57] <lordievader> Common first step ;)
[15:29] <sick_rimmit> Well Akonadi works for a new user, but its broked for me
[15:29] <sick_rimmit> :-(
[15:29] <sick_rimmit> I tried copying the ./config/akonadi/files to my homedir, but no joy
[15:33] <sick_rimmit> So I'm going to copy the whole .config directory...
[15:33] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: akonadi is stupid fragile
[15:33] <sgclark> you are better off starting over, I hope you use imap...
[16:12] <sick_rimmit> Fixed
[16:12] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: that pointer set me off looking in the right places.
[16:53] <soee_> https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.12.0.php
[16:54] <soee_> and the nice feature: Adding the option not to track the user when in specific activities (similar to the 'private browsing' mode in a web browser)
[17:05] <lordievader> Good to hear Rick fixed his problem :)
[17:23] <sgclark> yeah I know, I tried to run the new frameworks and that exploded on me too. I think I need to retire from packaging. Seriously.
[17:50] <soee_> sgclark: don't give up :) if only i had more free time i would like to start with packaging, but have a lot of projects atm. and also kubuntu website pending :/
[17:52] <sgclark> unfortunately my KDE Ci work is suffering from my lack of time, something has to give. Not to mention I need a real job that pays my bills. 
[18:16] <santa_> sgclark: probably I'm not the best person to give you "granpa advices" but I will tell you something: I'm an average skilled person and many times in my life I tried to do things which were hard for me: learning how to program computers, learning latex, playing rugby, reaching an unhabited island with beaches without people, packaging kde ...(like you). when I was starting to do all these things I had some hard times and I was about to 
[18:16] <santa_> give up (like you) however I didn't. today I'm proud of being able of doing all the things mentioned
[18:17] <santa_> beer commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmGsmBEPrm8
[18:18] <santa_> in the end a man's voice says something like: "if it's not hard, it's not worth it" :P
[18:18] <sgclark> yeah I just had to vent, I am not one to give up easy.
[18:18] <sgclark> I am fixing the merge explosion
[18:19] <santa_> :)
[20:04] <clivejo_> sgclark: if I could swadow you to learn what you do and how to do it I would.
[20:10] <sgclark> mmm, packager training videos. That is what we need. Now if only I had another 24 hours in a day.
[20:10] <clivejo_> how did you learn?
[20:13] <sgclark> trial and error
[20:13] <clivejo_> seems to be a lot of error in my case!
[20:14] <sgclark> heh I had plenty. I am still not perfect. Always learning.
[20:26] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ricktimmis was talking about making packaging videos
[20:27] <ahoneybun> could do something like that at Akademy
[20:27] <clivejo_> please do!
[20:27] <sgclark> he is going to akademy?
[20:27] <ahoneybun> no, just since we all will be there
[20:29] <sgclark> ahh. we'll see if there is time. I will be quite busy with my ci stuff.
[20:36] <valorie> sgclark: did you get a cool-down there too?
[20:36] <valorie> such a relief here
[20:36] <sgclark> yes
[20:36] <sgclark> soemwhat small chance of rain too
[20:37] <soee_> we shuld do  short 10-30 min video tutorials aboutpackaging, step by step
[20:37] <soee_> i already mentioned it once :)
[20:37] <sgclark> *crosses fingers*
[20:37] <soee_> good quality, well eplained etc.
[20:37] <ahoneybun> even from reading sgclark's comments it is not a short process
[20:38] <sgclark> heh, well the hardest part of packaging is trying fix disasters. I have been trying to backport 5.3.2 for a week and everytime I turn around something else has to be done first and things going BOOM.
[20:39] <soee_> sgclark: that is what wonders me ... shouldn't bugfix releases be a lot easier to package ?
[20:40] <sgclark> I don't think I can put this experience in short well explained segments.
[20:40] <soee_> what is wring with 5.3.2 taht it causes so much problems ?
[20:40] <sgclark> it relies on a package that does not exist in vivid
[20:41] <soee_> starnge, why it uses package that  wsnt used in 5.3.1 ?
[20:41] <sgclark> and Riddell changed all of our scripts and they blew up in my face...
[20:42] <sgclark> soee_: name change. I have no idea, I had no part in it.
[20:42]  * soee_ spots new LO in Wily updates ... installing
[20:45] <clivejo_> naughty Riddell !
[20:46] <sgclark> oh well, some good news for folks, I am working on the new frameworks release.
[20:46] <clivejo_> I hate kmixer!
[20:46] <clivejo_> why wont it remember my settings!!
[20:54] <santa_> sgclark: if you can, please include my patches :P
[20:54] <sgclark> yes of course. just still working through this git merge mess.
[21:39] <shadeslayer> https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/
[22:03] <valorie> interesting, shadeslayer
[22:03] <valorie> I wonder what Linux thinks about it
[22:05] <valorie> I meant Linus, sheesh
[22:08] <valorie> I will say this about Lennart -- he's really smart
[22:09] <valorie> out
[22:12]  * yofel doesn't really care, after all it's supposed to be backwards compatible
[22:12] <yofel> although, at this point, someone might want to think about amending the FHS
[22:28] <shadeslayer> I find it interesting that Sky in London CDN's google and reddit but not Facebook
[22:29] <shadeslayer> so its 4 hops to either google/reddit , but 12 to facebook
[22:30] <shadeslayer> ah, reddit is on cloudflare, as is HN
[22:59] <valorie> wow, so much easier to do the watering and such when it's not blistering hot