[16:00] <mkoval> There is a bug in the packaging of Assimp (assimp-3.0~dfsg-2 and -3) shipped with Trusty and Vivid that strips C++ symbols (see this Debian bug report: <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775890>. This makes it impossible to use the C++ API. This has been fixed in assimp-3.0~dfsg-4 by updating 'debian/symbols' file. Can update be applied to Trusty and Vivid?
[16:13] <teward> mkoval: file a bug in Ubuntu against the package, reference that bug and then someone can get to it
[16:14] <teward> !info assimp trusty
[16:14] <teward> ooops
[16:14] <teward> laggy bot
[16:14] <teward> !info assimp-3.0 trusty
[16:14] <teward> mkoval: you sure it's shipped in Ubuntu?
[16:15] <teward> there it is
[16:15] <teward> mkoval: make sure it's fixed in vivid
[16:15] <teward> mkoval: you may want to wait a couple weeks too, since Utopic is affected and going EOL soon
[16:15] <mkoval> Package: libassimp3 / Priority: extra / Section: universe/libs
[16:16] <teward> yes i know i found it via LP
[16:16] <teward> evil bot doesn't know source packages xD
[16:16] <teward> oh
[16:16] <teward> Universe
[16:16] <mkoval> teward: I built the Vivid source package on Trusty and it fixed the issue
[16:17] <teward> mkoval: file a bug against the package in Ubuntu anyways
[16:18] <teward> following the SRU guide - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:18] <teward> mkoval: and it shouldn't fix the issue
[16:18] <teward> since Vivid is assimp/3.0~dfsg-3
[16:18] <teward> not assimp/3.0~dfsg-4 which Debian says fixes it
[16:20] <mkoval> teward: Sorry, my mistake, I built the Wiley version (not the Vivid) version, which is assimp/3.0~dfsg-4.
[16:21] <mkoval> s/Wiley/Wily/
[16:23] <teward> mkoval: file a bug on the issue, read the SRU link I provided, make test cases etc.  and maybe link to a specific patch if one exists
[16:23] <teward> (we need to know exactly what needs changed to fix it after all)
[16:23] <teward> the policies might preclude us just taking the wily version and dropping it in :p
[16:24] <teward> if it's just a symbols change eh
[16:24] <teward> but the bug still needs filed here in Ubuntu for it
[16:24] <teward> note though that it'll only be fixed if someone actually goes and preps the debdiff, tests, etc.
[16:24] <teward> since it's a Universe package
[16:24] <teward> !universe
[16:25] <mkoval> teward: I read the SBU guidelines, but wasn't sure if I needed to create a Launchpad issue on it since there is already a Debian issue (and -4 is already released for Wiley). I'm making an issue now.
[16:25] <mkoval> teward: Thanks for the help.
[16:25] <teward> mkoval: yes, you do, for tracking purposes
[16:26] <teward> and, because we aren't Debian xD
[16:41] <mkoval> teward: I made an issue on Launchpad: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/assimp/+bug/1473503>. From the SBU link, the next step is to post on #ubuntu-bugs. :-)
[16:49] <mkoval> s/SBU/SRU. I really can't type today.
[16:57] <teward> mkoval: OK.  note that it's only SRUable if someone produces a patch and such, and since it's in Universe, someone has to produce debdiffs
[16:57] <teward> (it won't be me since i'm working on nginx right now)
[16:59] <mkoval> teward: I'd be happy to do it, but I don't know what I need to do. Can you point me to any instructions/documentation about how to produce the necessary patch and diffs?
[17:00] <teward> i'll take a look at it maybe
[17:00] <teward> or just leave it for now
[17:03] <mkoval> teward: ok, thanks
[17:24] <melodie> hi
[17:25] <melodie> I wonder if anyone here would have a solution about #1325142 and #1326412 ?
[17:25] <melodie> bug #1326412
[17:26] <melodie> and bug #1325142 seem to be duplicates
[17:26] <melodie> and I can't upgrade the iso under construction anymore :-(
[17:29] <melodie> I wanted to do the new versions this evening
[17:29] <melodie> and present them tomorrow in an install party :-(
[17:29] <melodie> else, how do you boot to upstart? what is the trick there?
[17:51] <melodie> hi again
[17:52] <melodie> so what is it that bad bugs aren't fixed in LTS editions?
[17:53] <teward> melodie: pocket?
[17:53] <teward> i.e. universe vs. main or such
[17:53] <melodie> teward beg your pardon?
[17:53] <melodie> systemd-logind issue
[17:54] <teward> ah
 bug #1326412
 and bug #1325142 seem to be duplicates
[17:55] <melodie> this man said it was to be fixed in the release after, but not in Trusty : conclusion, boot to upstart or upgrade. well Trusty _is a LTS, people should not need to upgrade LTS until a new LTS is out.
[17:55] <melodie> so I am a bit amazed and very confused there
[17:56] <melodie> and how to boot to upstart anyway when systemd has become a very part of the distro... no idea. I don't think it is possible
[17:58] <melodie> how can I fix it at least locally?
[17:58] <melodie> in the meantime?
[18:01] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1325142/comments/46
[18:01] <melodie> nobody has a clue?
[18:04] <melodie> ok I'll lock it up for now
[18:07] <melodie> locking all systemd packages in that build
[19:26] <hjd> Hi could someone please mark bug 1404232 as Triaged? :)
[19:27] <hjd> Not quite sure about importance since the problem is uninstallation. High, since it's pretty severe and something you would expect to work?
[19:28] <hjd> Possibly Critical as I believe uninstallable packages might cause problems when attempting to install other packages...