| Bashing-om | I be back, playing catch up now. | 01:54 |
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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:40 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: hello :p | 05:42 |
| agent_white | Heya! \o | 05:42 |
| agent_white | What's this all about? | 05:42 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: the idea is, we offer alot of support, but never have a chance to talk to each other | 05:42 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: so this way we can support and chat on ubuntu topics to each other | 05:43 |
| agent_white | Oh neat! How did you... find me out? :P | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: you have been spotted as active volunteer :p | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | we see you alot in #ubuntu right | 05:43 |
| agent_white | Oh wow... I'm honored haha. Thank you for extending the invite here :) Never figured it was noticed. | 05:44 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: feel free to add this channel to favs | 05:44 |
| agent_white | lotuspsychje: Already done :) | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx mate | 05:45 |
| agent_white | Is this a recent channel then? | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | well it was a rather non-active channel | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | as i had this idea, to gather most nicest ppl | 05:45 |
| lotuspsychje | we all like a cool ubuntu discussion, and offtopic channel can be so crowdy | 05:46 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: good morning :p | 05:48 |
| TJ- | Morning :) | 05:48 |
| agent_white | lotuspsychje: Sounds good to me! Again, happy/honored to hear I was 'spotted'... even though I wonder more how I was! :P | 05:49 |
| TJ- | 2nd task of the morning - pack up and return to CA, USA, one dead-on-arrival PCIe SSD .... grrrr. Spent a week diagnosing the failure and confirming its not a counterfeit! | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: well its easy to seperate the active,friendly volunteers from angry, ego-minded supporters | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: whats wrong with it? | 05:51 |
| TJ- | It's dead Jim! | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: thats the hardest thing, ive spent a week on a mobo once that was dead too | 05:51 |
| TJ- | It's a mini-PCIe device (direct, not mSATA etc) and it caused all the laptops to lock up during POST | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | and keeping thinking it was my fault lol | 05:52 |
| TJ- | So I tested it in a PCIe <> mini-PCIe adapter in an ATX desktop motherboard... and it prevented the PSU from turning on | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | sort of a hardware loop? | 05:52 |
| agent_white | Ah I see :) Luckily I maybe have seen an angered-one only a few times... I just feel it's easy to put myself into the shoes of one with a question and remember when I had that same question. | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: ive seen you alot in support, and never seen you angry so.. :p | 05:53 |
| agent_white | :D Haha never will! | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | keep up the spirit :p | 05:53 |
| TJ- | I contacted Super Talent support and they hinted it might be counterfeit so I sent them some macro photos of the PCB .. confirmed this morning it is genuine and they'll RMA it it. I've got the option of 2 RMAs now, them or the original retailer | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: got an url on that device? | 05:54 |
| TJ- | Core Store Plus: http://www.supertalent.com/products/ssd_category_detail.php?type=CoreStore&category=others | 05:55 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm cant find much error threads on it | 05:57 |
| TJ- | They beat the SATA speed bottleneck can transfer at the speed of the PCIe bus | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 06:01 |
| TJ- | SATA + SSD is a silly combination in many cases now, SATA is OK for spinning disk but not memory devices | 06:02 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: so take msata ssd? | 06:03 |
| TJ- | mSATA is just SATA on a mini-PCIe interface edge connector | 06:04 |
| TJ- | NGFF aka m.2 is the follow on from mSATA, but has yet another different bus and edge connector | 06:05 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: so your saying that ssd's should only be plugged on pcie? | 06:06 |
| TJ- | I'm saying connecting most disk-replacement flash memory devices via SATA is going to cause an access bottleneck and is a waste of money and electronics | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | bottleneck of 550mb/sec? | 06:13 |
| TJ- | But internally, it requires PCIe <> SATA controller <> connector <> SATA controller <> Address Decoder <> Memory | 06:17 |
| TJ- | As opposed to PCIe <> connector <> Address Decoder <> Memory | 06:17 |
| lotuspsychje | true its more direct | 06:18 |
| TJ- | So, especially for after-market upgrades of older PCs especially, (mini)-PCIe will often be much better than SATA, if available. | 06:18 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 06:21 |
| TJ- | E.g., the laptop fleet we have here are all identical models (allows fast hot-swap), and have 3 mini-PCIe slots each plus the 2.5" SATA disk interface. That allows them to have 750GB SHD (SSD cache combined with spinning disk), WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n, WWAN 3/4G modem, *and* a full flash 'SSD' | 06:21 |
| lotuspsychje | sounds nice | 06:22 |
| TJ- | and they still have the ExpressCard interface - another PCIe port - which I have connected to an external full sized PCIe enclosure with an Nvidia NVS420 dual-GPU PCIe adapter, which allows me 3 GPUs and 6 screens in total. | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | for the heavy workers | 06:25 |
| TJ- | more expandable than most desktops :) | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | well the customers i will have will do fine on sata+ samsung pro 850 ssd with ubuntu64bit | 06:26 |
| lotuspsychje | but if i see available mini pcie ill think of you | 06:26 |
| TJ- | :) | 06:27 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: http://www.fastestssd.com/featured/ssd-rankings-the-fastest-solid-state-drives/#pcie | 06:28 |
| agent_white | lotuspsychje: You laying down these factoids has lead me to read about ubottu's factoids and aliases of them. Good to know :) | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | Up to 3200MB/s read | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | Up to 1900MB/s write | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | impressive that first one | 06:29 |
| TJ- | Yes, those are commonly used in database servers | 06:30 |
| lotuspsychje | agent_white: :p | 06:30 |
| TJ- | It's the IOPS that's most important in that class | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: Random 4K Write: Up to 205,000 IOPS (700GB) | 06:32 |
| lotuspsychje | crazy | 06:32 |
| TJ- | That's pretty typical of the demands for that class of device | 06:32 |
| TJ- | it's not about throughput so much as the number of I/O operations the device can handle | 06:32 |
| TJ- | In virtualised servers that can be much more important, if you've got 30-100 guests all needing to access their disk images in the routine way that OS and applications do | 06:34 |
| agent_white | lotuspsychje: Time to write factoids on flashcards... I've been wanting to learn more of them. | 06:35 |
| agent_white | ;) | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: yeah alot of servers use ssd these days | 06:36 |
| TJ- | Won't be long until we have more RAM-SSDs making it down to the consumer level | 06:42 |
| lotuspsychje | that would be nice | 06:45 |
| TJ- | Is it irony that when I start xSANE it reports "Scanning for devices" :) | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | linux jokes :p | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ cowsay Scanning for devices mooo | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | ___________________________ | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | < Scanning for devices mooo > | 07:06 |
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| lotuspsychje | \ ^__^ | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | \ (oo)\_______ | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | (__)\ )\/\ | 07:06 |
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| histo | lol | 07:23 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 07:23 |
| histo | wasn't there owlsay aslo | 07:23 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ- started it! | 07:24 |
| lotuspsychje | !info owlsay | 07:24 |
| ubot5 | Package owlsay does not exist in vivid | 07:24 |
| lotuspsychje | histo: i found cowsay -f duck or sheep :p | 07:28 |
| histo | nice | 07:29 |
| histo | ____ _____ __ | 07:29 |
| histo | / ___/ _ \ \ / / | 07:29 |
| histo | | | | | | \ \ /\ / / | 07:29 |
| histo | | |__| |_| |\ V V / | 07:29 |
| histo | \____\___/ \_/\_/ | 07:29 |
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| lotuspsychje | histo: lol | 07:29 |
| lotuspsychje | http://smashingtips.com/linux/cool-terminal-commands-for-linux | 07:29 |
| histo | stegasaurus | 07:30 |
| lotuspsychje | haha | 07:30 |
| TJ- | histo: You might want to read the back-log on SashaGrey's issue; TLDR: remote headless dedicated server, failing to mount /home/ file-system at boot and drops to initrd. No remote KVM, no IPMI, only 'remote hands' via email. see http://paste.ubuntu.com/11854634/ | 08:16 |
| TJ- | I let it go once I found out there's no remote ability, and no data back-ups | 08:17 |
| agent_white | Sounds like Ben64 and k1l_ should be here! I've seen them around quite a bit. | 10:26 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | G'Day folks | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | Hi again | 11:24 |
| ExecSlim | If I found a bug in ubuntu and I found the bug on launchpad but the bug is for a different machine type (a lenovo), would it be appropriate for me to comment about my issue on my computer and attach what errors I'm getting? | 13:23 |
| ExecSlim | found it on launchpad* | 13:24 |
| daftykins | still not a support channel | 13:40 |
| lordievader | ExecSlim: Even though this ain't support I'd add your comment if the bug matches. | 13:58 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon | 14:39 |
| lordievader | o/ | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | hello lordievader | 14:42 |
| ExecSlim | Out of curiosity, has anyone dual booted windows and ubuntu on a macbook pro, and erased the "mac" partition? If that's possible is it possible to reinstall mac? | 16:52 |
| daftykins | this is NOT a support channel | 17:04 |
| daftykins | it's in the topic! leave and ask in #ubuntu if you want support. | 17:04 |
| daftykins | got the rest of my lovely new bike part snaps - http://imgur.com/a/mVMyQ | 17:55 |
| OerHeks | You might as well buy a new bike man | 17:57 |
| daftykins | ;) hell no | 17:58 |
| daftykins | £90 of parts on a £1900 bike :) | 17:58 |
| OerHeks | :-O | 17:59 |
| daftykins | did well for 7 years old! | 17:59 |
| OerHeks | Sure, after 5+ years you need to do maintanance on the chain. On that point i buy a new bike | 18:00 |
| ExecSlim | daftykins, oops! For future reference, how does #ubuntu-discuss differ from #ubuntu-offtopic? | 18:01 |
| daftykins | ExecSlim: read the damn topic | 18:01 |
| lordievader | ExecSlim: I'm not in #ubuntu-offtopic ;) | 18:01 |
| OerHeks | ExecSlim, your Q is suitable for #ubuntu support i guess | 18:01 |
| ExecSlim | Okay sounds good, sorry about that | 18:02 |
| ExecSlim | just posted it into #ubuntu | 18:02 |
| OerHeks | I cannot tell what the osx installer wants from your hdd, freedom to partition or guided. | 18:03 |
| ExecSlim | OerHeks right now I am just dual booting ubuntu and mac, but I want to erase mac and replace it with windows. However, I'm afraid that I won't be able to get mac back | 18:06 |
| DJones | daftykins: Do the new parts help avoiding crashes and hospital visits? | 19:40 |
| daftykins | that's not in the least bit funny | 19:41 |
| daftykins | in fact, you are a complete asshole. | 19:41 |
| DJones | daftykins: Genuine question, are you fully recovered | 19:41 |
| daftykins | fuck you. | 19:41 |
| BluesKaj | oh my ..wth was that about ? | 19:47 |
| daftykins | someone finding humour in what they shouldn't. | 19:49 |
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