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lordievaderGood morning.08:57
BluesKajHiyas all10:42
soeehiho BluesKaj11:22
BluesKajhey soee11:24
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Riddellhola chicos13:18
Riddelldid you miss me?13:18
Riddellwhat have I missed?13:18
shadeslayerRiddell: kxmlgui doesn't have 5.1213:23
shadeslayerthat's what you've missed :P13:24
Riddelldoes anything?13:24
shadeslayeryeah13:24
shadeslayeralso, I need a drink13:24
Riddellbuy an irn bru13:24
shadeslayerI'm not in Scotland anymore mate13:25
RiddellI can't get it any more in Raval, must be time to go back13:25
shadeslayer:O13:25
shadeslayerI'm listening to Billy Joel and I feel like I could do with a drink13:25
shadeslayerapparently the LHC is back in smash mode13:26
sgclarkRiddell: I am working on 5.12.0 also your script changes blew up in a big way.13:31
Riddellah hah13:31
Riddellsgclark: mm I did think it might, did you not just revert to an older version of them?13:31
ovidiu-florinRiddell: >:D<13:32
sgclarkwell next batch I will lol. Still cleaning up this mess13:32
Riddellsorry about that sgclark :(13:32
sgclarkthough I think I can fix it 13:32
soee:-)13:32
soeehiho Riddell13:32
sgclarkno worries13:32
sgclarkhope you had fun13:32
shadeslayersgclark: fwiw kxmlgui is broken13:33
Riddelloh aye, I'm all into freestyle canoeing now, phonic monkeys here I come13:33
shadeslayerjust thought I'd tell13:33
sgclarklike broken how? upstream?13:33
shadeslayersgclark: no, no 5.12 packaging13:33
shadeslayerstuff wants kxmlgui 5.1213:33
sgclarkmeh I am only still cleaning up merge mess13:33
sgclarkI have not got that far yet...13:34
shadeslayerokay13:34
shadeslayerwell, I'm not touching it till Monday13:34
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ovidiu-florinhttps://www.facebook.com/ovidiub13/posts/956580651070925?notif_t=like14:16
ovidiu-florinit seems that many things are broken in the latest update14:16
ovidiu-florinlet me know if translation is needed (if Facebook does not translate properly)14:17
ahoneybunwow14:18
ovidiu-florinare there issues with phonon4qt5-backend-vlc ?14:18
soeeanyone knows if vlc phono backend still leads to systemsettings crash ?14:19
soeeoh :)14:19
soeeit didn't work for a long time14:19
ovidiu-florinbecause of what?14:19
soeevlc issue i think, there was some patch in debain14:19
soeebut i dont know current state14:19
ovidiu-florinsoee: are you comming to akademy?14:20
ovidiu-florinI'd like to meet you14:20
soeeovidiu-florin: nope14:20
soeethis year is full of work for me, no time for any events etc. :(14:20
soeewoho next month Plasma 5.4 :)14:24
soeeand fixed Activities ! :)14:24
yofelshadeslayer: ping, could you upload kdenlive when you have time?14:45
shadeslayeryofel: Was it fixed?15:28
shadeslayerwhere be the fix15:28
yofelshadeslayer: I fixed it in kubuntu_wily_archive15:28
shadeslayerah15:28
shadeslayeryofel: are you sure15:29
shadeslayerLast commit was on June 915:29
murthyThere are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade?15:29
yofelshadeslayer: well, I pinged you on thursday, but I guess you missed it15:29
shadeslayerYeah I think so15:30
murthysgclark: There are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade?15:31
sgclarkum15:31
sgclarkI did not put them there15:31
shadeslayeryofel: oh ok, so the last paste I have from you was this Imagination Technologies Group 15:32
shadeslayererm15:32
murthysgclark: so backports ppa in ok?15:32
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11841424/15:32
yofelah yeah, that was with adding libgl and glu as build-deps, but you need to patch it to use GLES instead15:32
sgclarkmurthy: what backports in what ppa? I have not finished any.15:32
shadeslayeryofel: right15:32
shadeslayerI think this was mentioned at some point15:33
sgclarkI cannot say if ok because they are not mine.15:33
yofelthe git version built tine15:33
yofel*fine15:33
shadeslayerthat we patched it to use GLES at some point15:33
shadeslayerI see15:33
shadeslayerwill have a look 15:33
murthysgclark: kubuntu backports 15.0415:33
sgclarkagain. I did not put them there so I cannot say they are fine.15:33
murthysgclark: You were backporting 5.3.2 right?15:34
sgclarkI am still working on this mess. 15:34
sgclarkI still am.15:34
murthysgclark: So there is no rouge package in the ppa right?15:34
sgclarkThey can't possibly be there unless someone uploaded the broken mess it is, and I am not responsible15:35
murthysgclark: ok. I guess I will upgrade. Thanks you15:36
sgclarkSorry but I have some real life to attend to. If somehow 5.3.2 is in backports I cannot be responsible for the failures. It is not ready.15:36
sgclarkmurthy: if it is 5.3.2 don.t15:37
Haudegensgclark: There is nothing rogue in the backports.15:37
sgclarkok15:37
murthysgclark: I know you are frustrated, but I can understand you. I thank you for your hard work15:38
sgclarksorry, yes I am.15:38
murthysgclark: I tried to be a packager for kubuntu myself15:38
sgclarkI have trying to get 5.3.2 out for many days and everything possible has gone wrong. Apologies that my frustrations are showing. But now I must buy food to feed my husband. I will try to have this done asap.15:40
sgclarksanta_: your patches.. fail at changelog. I will have to sort this when I get back. Did we not use to merge? That was so much easier...15:41
murthysgclark: You dont have to apologies. We here understand. You do your work at your own time. The users can wait 15:41
Haudegensgclark: Free Software means we have to apologize to you for not helping more.15:42
murthy*apologize 15:42
murthyHaudegen: exactly15:43
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santa_sgclark: I was told sending patches was easier (and I agree), give me just some minutes and I will send you updated versions15:57
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santa_sgclark: I have sent everything again to the mailing list, about kglobalaccel it's just a typo and it's fixed in master, so probably you want to merge master into kubuntu_wily_archive instead16:32
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murthysanta_: Did your Ark patch got accepted?19:21
santa_murthy: hi, I didn't have time to send the mail wth the rationale yet, I'm buried in work19:22
murthyok19:23
sgclarksanta_: thanks for the patches. applying them.19:23
santa_maybe next week I could, but I can't promise anything19:23
santa_sgclark: great, thanks!19:23
murthysanta_: Will it make it to 15.10?19:23
santa_hmm, I don't know19:24
santa_I don't even know if it will be accepted19:24
murthysanta_: does the patch have to be submitted before feature freeze?19:25
murthysanta_: ya, assuming if it will be accepted19:25
santa_not sure, I guess it depends a bit on your definition of feature19:25
santa_I will try to write the mail as soon as possible, and let's cross our fingers19:26
murthysanta_: thanks19:26
murthysanta_: I will see if adding the patch to the bug report will help19:27
murthyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/140423919:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 1404239 in ark (Ubuntu) "use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:31
murthysanta_: thats the one right?19:31
santa_one of them19:32
murthysanta_: Your launchpad profile name?19:40
murthyJose Manuel Santamaria Lema?19:41
santa_yep19:47
santa_murthy: https://launchpad.net/~panfaust19:48
murthysanta_: I just updated the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/140423919:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 1404239 in ark (Ubuntu) "use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:52
murthysanta_: any other bug report need to be updated?19:52
valoriewb Riddell20:03
santa_murthy: updating that one will be enough, as I said I will try to write a long technical justification to kubuntu-devel20:05
murthyok20:05
ovidiu-florinhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=476229092546148&set=p.476229092546148&type=1&theater21:26
ovidiu-florindo you know anything about that?21:27
Riddellthanks valorie :)21:28
santa_ovidiu-florin: I guess the person in question needs to install baloo-utils21:29
ovidiu-florinsanta_: and what would that bring?21:29
ovidiu-florinthe baloo control pannel?21:29
santa_which, by the way should be packaged properly, argf I have to send a patch21:29
ovidiu-florinIt came to my understanding that packaging has some issues now....21:30
santa_ovidiu-florin: the kio baloo thing and the indexers (at least)21:30
ovidiu-florinstuff just won't package properly21:30
santa_sgclark: it seems you forgot to add the lintian override file to kexteditor21:36
sgclarkeh?21:36
sgclarkI applied patch. I can't forget something I know nothing about21:37
santa_sgclark: yeah but the patch created a new file: debian/libkf5texteditor5-libjs-underscore.lintian-overrides 21:38
sgclarkoh perhaps I forgot add21:38
santa_so you have to do a git add against that file to get it included21:38
sgclarkmy apologies21:38
santa_yeah, that's it21:38
santa_no prob21:38
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lordievaderHmm, I just finished an reinstall and upgrade route, started with 14.04 and worked my way up to 15.10. On 15.10 I noticed sddm was not installed. Have other people seen this?22:37
lordievaderAfter installing sddm though everything seems fine.22:38
sgclarknot sure 14.04 -> 15.10 is supported. Too many massive changes.22:40
lordievaderIt wasn't directly ;)22:40
lordievader14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 ;)22:40
lordievaderWily images failed to boot for me.22:40
sgclarkyeah the problem lies with the switch from kde4 to plasma522:40
sgclarkthings like missing sddm22:41
lordievaderLightdm was installed, perhaps that is why sddm was not installed?22:41
sgclarkThought they posted somewhere that moving to plasma5 it is best to start fresh22:41
lordievaderHmm, I see how that can mess things up. Oh well, things seem to work fine now :)22:41
sgclarkcool22:41
sgclarkyeah lightdm default for kde4 and sddm default for plasma522:42
sgclarkglad it is working though22:42
lordievaderI'll configure it further tommorow and see if I run into anything else.22:42
mamarleyWhen I originally went from KDE4 to KF5/Plasma5, I had major issues for months before I figured out that the "kio" package was not installed.22:42
sgclarkahh yes that would break many things22:43
sgclarkRiddell: shadeslayer: either of you around?22:44
soeeguys do you know what needs special configuration to make other nvidia driver version than 346 to work with sddm ?22:49
sgclarkI gave up sorry22:49
ahoneybunGod 15.04 is broken22:51
ahoneybunFresh install22:52
ahoneybunWith backport ppa22:52
soeeahoneybun: what is broken ?22:52
ahoneybunKwin is crashing and making the whole system take forever to boot22:53
ahoneybunOr I should say something is taking for ever22:53
ahoneybunForever22:53
soeeon fresh install ? strange :/22:57
soeeahoneybun: anyway jump to Wily :)22:57
ahoneybunYep22:57
ahoneybunsoee: you crash22:57
ahoneybunCrazy22:57
soeewhat ? :)22:57
sgclarkahoneybun: I have heard complaints, hense why I have been killing myself trying to do these backports.22:58
sgclarkUnfortunately, everything that can go wrong, is.22:58
ahoneybunsgclark: this is from going to 5.3.122:58
sgclarkSlight delay..22:58
ahoneybunFrom stock 15.0422:58
soeesgclark: but i doubt those problems are only because of Plasma and 5.3.2 might solve them asll22:58
sgclarkI am working on 5.3.2 which supposedly fxes lots22:58
ahoneybunWily does have 522:59
ahoneybun5.3.222:59
soeeyes22:59
ahoneybunThanks to sgclark 22:59
soee:)22:59
ahoneybunsoee: can I change my sources.list and dist-upgradem22:59
ahoneybunWait I still have updates left23:00
soeecall the command to upgrade to devel version23:00
ahoneybunSo it was half upgraded23:00
soeei think we have all those problems because of switch to sddm, Plasma 5 etc.23:00
ahoneybunsoee: I agree23:00
sgclarkuh yeah if the updates did not finish that would break stuff :)23:00
soeebut every next release should be much easier now23:00
ahoneybunI don't see the reason for damn sddm23:01
ahoneybunWe have so many logins23:01
soeeahoneybun: apt full-upgrade ?23:01
ahoneybunRunning dist-upgrade23:01
soeei'm impressed how stable Wily is for me now23:01
ahoneybunNo crashes from plasma soee ?23:02
soeelast crash i'v seen was System Settings one23:02
soeeahoneybun: not a single one tbh if we talk about plasmashell23:02
ahoneybun5.3.2 is a great update from what I hear23:02
sgclarkI have not seen crashes in awhile23:02
ahoneybunThank you sgclark so much for the work23:03
soeeyes i think we are now at point where all will get only better23:03
ahoneybunsgclark: maybe I could be your student at akademy :)23:03
soee:-)23:03
soeei do plan to start with packaging when i finish all my urgent projects 23:03
sgclarkI think packaging videos is a good plan, we certainly need help and no one has time to train properly.23:04
soee+123:04
ahoneybunI've don't think I can use KDE 4 at all with seeing Plasma 523:07
* ahoneybun has a working system now :)23:07
soee;]23:16
ahoneybundamn I setup btrfs wrong...23:39
Sho_aka "at all"23:56

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