[05:43] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping
[05:43] <kubotu> pong
[05:43] <ovidiu-florin> wow, that was long
[05:43] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping
[05:43] <kubotu> pong
[05:43] <ovidiu-florin> now that's better
[06:21] <DalekSec> [01:43:30] < ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping
[06:21] <DalekSec> [01:43:30] < kubotu> pong
[06:21] <DalekSec> Your side.
[06:21] <ovidiu-florin> DalekSec: is that the first or the second one?
[06:21] <DalekSec> First.
[06:22] <ovidiu-florin> it shows 6 seconds on my side
[06:22] <ovidiu-florin> [08:43:24] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping
[06:22] <ovidiu-florin> [08:43:30] <kubotu> pong
[06:23] <ovidiu-florin> then it means that my message had the delay, not kubotu's
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:22] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[11:24] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:18] <Riddell> hola chicos
[13:18] <Riddell> did you miss me?
[13:18] <Riddell> what have I missed?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kxmlgui doesn't have 5.12
[13:24] <shadeslayer> that's what you've missed :P
[13:24] <Riddell> does anything?
[13:24] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:24] <shadeslayer> also, I need a drink
[13:24] <Riddell> buy an irn bru
[13:25] <shadeslayer> I'm not in Scotland anymore mate
[13:25] <Riddell> I can't get it any more in Raval, must be time to go back
[13:25] <shadeslayer> :O
[13:25] <shadeslayer> I'm listening to Billy Joel and I feel like I could do with a drink
[13:26] <shadeslayer> apparently the LHC is back in smash mode
[13:31] <sgclark> Riddell: I am working on 5.12.0 also your script changes blew up in a big way.
[13:31] <Riddell> ah hah
[13:31] <Riddell> sgclark: mm I did think it might, did you not just revert to an older version of them?
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: >:D<
[13:32] <sgclark> well next batch I will lol. Still cleaning up this mess
[13:32] <Riddell> sorry about that sgclark :(
[13:32] <sgclark> though I think I can fix it 
[13:32] <soee> :-)
[13:32] <soee> hiho Riddell
[13:32] <sgclark> no worries
[13:32] <sgclark> hope you had fun
[13:33] <shadeslayer> sgclark: fwiw kxmlgui is broken
[13:33] <Riddell> oh aye, I'm all into freestyle canoeing now, phonic monkeys here I come
[13:33] <shadeslayer> just thought I'd tell
[13:33] <sgclark> like broken how? upstream?
[13:33] <shadeslayer> sgclark: no, no 5.12 packaging
[13:33] <shadeslayer> stuff wants kxmlgui 5.12
[13:33] <sgclark> meh I am only still cleaning up merge mess
[13:34] <sgclark> I have not got that far yet...
[13:34] <shadeslayer> okay
[13:34] <shadeslayer> well, I'm not touching it till Monday
[14:16] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.facebook.com/ovidiub13/posts/956580651070925?notif_t=like
[14:16] <ovidiu-florin> it seems that many things are broken in the latest update
[14:17] <ovidiu-florin> let me know if translation is needed (if Facebook does not translate properly)
[14:18] <ahoneybun> wow
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin> are there issues with phonon4qt5-backend-vlc ?
[14:19] <soee> anyone knows if vlc phono backend still leads to systemsettings crash ?
[14:19] <soee> oh :)
[14:19] <soee> it didn't work for a long time
[14:19] <ovidiu-florin> because of what?
[14:19] <soee> vlc issue i think, there was some patch in debain
[14:19] <soee> but i dont know current state
[14:20] <ovidiu-florin> soee: are you comming to akademy?
[14:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'd like to meet you
[14:20] <soee> ovidiu-florin: nope
[14:20] <soee> this year is full of work for me, no time for any events etc. :(
[14:24] <soee> woho next month Plasma 5.4 :)
[14:24] <soee> and fixed Activities ! :)
[14:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: ping, could you upload kdenlive when you have time?
[15:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: Was it fixed?
[15:28] <shadeslayer> where be the fix
[15:28] <yofel> shadeslayer: I fixed it in kubuntu_wily_archive
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: are you sure
[15:29] <shadeslayer> Last commit was on June 9
[15:29] <murthy> There are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade?
[15:29] <yofel> shadeslayer: well, I pinged you on thursday, but I guess you missed it
[15:30] <shadeslayer> Yeah I think so
[15:31] <murthy> sgclark: There are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade?
[15:31] <sgclark> um
[15:31] <sgclark> I did not put them there
[15:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: oh ok, so the last paste I have from you was this Imagination Technologies Group 
[15:32] <shadeslayer> erm
[15:32] <murthy> sgclark: so backports ppa in ok?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11841424/
[15:32] <yofel> ah yeah, that was with adding libgl and glu as build-deps, but you need to patch it to use GLES instead
[15:32] <sgclark> murthy: what backports in what ppa? I have not finished any.
[15:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: right
[15:33] <shadeslayer> I think this was mentioned at some point
[15:33] <sgclark> I cannot say if ok because they are not mine.
[15:33] <yofel> the git version built tine
[15:33] <yofel> *fine
[15:33] <shadeslayer> that we patched it to use GLES at some point
[15:33] <shadeslayer> I see
[15:33] <shadeslayer> will have a look 
[15:33] <murthy> sgclark: kubuntu backports 15.04
[15:33] <sgclark> again. I did not put them there so I cannot say they are fine.
[15:34] <murthy> sgclark: You were backporting 5.3.2 right?
[15:34] <sgclark> I am still working on this mess. 
[15:34] <sgclark> I still am.
[15:34] <murthy> sgclark: So there is no rouge package in the ppa right?
[15:35] <sgclark> They can't possibly be there unless someone uploaded the broken mess it is, and I am not responsible
[15:36] <murthy> sgclark: ok. I guess I will upgrade. Thanks you
[15:36] <sgclark> Sorry but I have some real life to attend to. If somehow 5.3.2 is in backports I cannot be responsible for the failures. It is not ready.
[15:37] <sgclark> murthy: if it is 5.3.2 don.t
[15:37] <Haudegen> sgclark: There is nothing rogue in the backports.
[15:37] <sgclark> ok
[15:38] <murthy> sgclark: I know you are frustrated, but I can understand you. I thank you for your hard work
[15:38] <sgclark> sorry, yes I am.
[15:38] <murthy> sgclark: I tried to be a packager for kubuntu myself
[15:40] <sgclark> I have trying to get 5.3.2 out for many days and everything possible has gone wrong. Apologies that my frustrations are showing. But now I must buy food to feed my husband. I will try to have this done asap.
[15:41] <sgclark> santa_: your patches.. fail at changelog. I will have to sort this when I get back. Did we not use to merge? That was so much easier...
[15:41] <murthy> sgclark: You dont have to apologies. We here understand. You do your work at your own time. The users can wait 
[15:42] <Haudegen> sgclark: Free Software means we have to apologize to you for not helping more.
[15:42] <murthy> *apologize 
[15:43] <murthy> Haudegen: exactly
[15:57] <santa_> sgclark: I was told sending patches was easier (and I agree), give me just some minutes and I will send you updated versions
[16:32] <santa_> sgclark: I have sent everything again to the mailing list, about kglobalaccel it's just a typo and it's fixed in master, so probably you want to merge master into kubuntu_wily_archive instead
[19:21] <murthy> santa_: Did your Ark patch got accepted?
[19:22] <santa_> murthy: hi, I didn't have time to send the mail wth the rationale yet, I'm buried in work
[19:23] <murthy> ok
[19:23] <sgclark> santa_: thanks for the patches. applying them.
[19:23] <santa_> maybe next week I could, but I can't promise anything
[19:23] <santa_> sgclark: great, thanks!
[19:23] <murthy> santa_: Will it make it to 15.10?
[19:24] <santa_> hmm, I don't know
[19:24] <santa_> I don't even know if it will be accepted
[19:25] <murthy> santa_: does the patch have to be submitted before feature freeze?
[19:25] <murthy> santa_: ya, assuming if it will be accepted
[19:25] <santa_> not sure, I guess it depends a bit on your definition of feature
[19:26] <santa_> I will try to write the mail as soon as possible, and let's cross our fingers
[19:26] <murthy> santa_: thanks
[19:27] <murthy> santa_: I will see if adding the patch to the bug report will help
[19:31] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/1404239
[19:31] <murthy> santa_: thats the one right?
[19:32] <santa_> one of them
[19:40] <murthy> santa_: Your launchpad profile name?
[19:41] <murthy> Jose Manuel Santamaria Lema?
[19:47] <santa_> yep
[19:48] <santa_> murthy: https://launchpad.net/~panfaust
[19:52] <murthy> santa_: I just updated the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/1404239
[19:52] <murthy> santa_: any other bug report need to be updated?
[20:03] <valorie> wb Riddell
[20:05] <santa_> murthy: updating that one will be enough, as I said I will try to write a long technical justification to kubuntu-devel
[20:05] <murthy> ok
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=476229092546148&set=p.476229092546148&type=1&theater
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> do you know anything about that?
[21:28] <Riddell> thanks valorie :)
[21:29] <santa_> ovidiu-florin: I guess the person in question needs to install baloo-utils
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> santa_: and what would that bring?
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> the baloo control pannel?
[21:29] <santa_> which, by the way should be packaged properly, argf I have to send a patch
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> It came to my understanding that packaging has some issues now....
[21:30] <santa_> ovidiu-florin: the kio baloo thing and the indexers (at least)
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> stuff just won't package properly
[21:36] <santa_> sgclark: it seems you forgot to add the lintian override file to kexteditor
[21:36] <sgclark> eh?
[21:37] <sgclark> I applied patch. I can't forget something I know nothing about
[21:38] <santa_> sgclark: yeah but the patch created a new file: debian/libkf5texteditor5-libjs-underscore.lintian-overrides 
[21:38] <sgclark> oh perhaps I forgot add
[21:38] <santa_> so you have to do a git add against that file to get it included
[21:38] <sgclark> my apologies
[21:38] <santa_> yeah, that's it
[21:38] <santa_> no prob
[22:37] <lordievader> Hmm, I just finished an reinstall and upgrade route, started with 14.04 and worked my way up to 15.10. On 15.10 I noticed sddm was not installed. Have other people seen this?
[22:38] <lordievader> After installing sddm though everything seems fine.
[22:40] <sgclark> not sure 14.04 -> 15.10 is supported. Too many massive changes.
[22:40] <lordievader> It wasn't directly ;)
[22:40] <lordievader> 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 ;)
[22:40] <lordievader> Wily images failed to boot for me.
[22:40] <sgclark> yeah the problem lies with the switch from kde4 to plasma5
[22:41] <sgclark> things like missing sddm
[22:41] <lordievader> Lightdm was installed, perhaps that is why sddm was not installed?
[22:41] <sgclark> Thought they posted somewhere that moving to plasma5 it is best to start fresh
[22:41] <lordievader> Hmm, I see how that can mess things up. Oh well, things seem to work fine now :)
[22:41] <sgclark> cool
[22:42] <sgclark> yeah lightdm default for kde4 and sddm default for plasma5
[22:42] <sgclark> glad it is working though
[22:42] <lordievader> I'll configure it further tommorow and see if I run into anything else.
[22:42] <mamarley> When I originally went from KDE4 to KF5/Plasma5, I had major issues for months before I figured out that the "kio" package was not installed.
[22:43] <sgclark> ahh yes that would break many things
[22:44] <sgclark> Riddell: shadeslayer: either of you around?
[22:49] <soee> guys do you know what needs special configuration to make other nvidia driver version than 346 to work with sddm ?
[22:49] <sgclark> I gave up sorry
[22:51] <ahoneybun> God 15.04 is broken
[22:52] <ahoneybun> Fresh install
[22:52] <ahoneybun> With backport ppa
[22:52] <soee> ahoneybun: what is broken ?
[22:53] <ahoneybun> Kwin is crashing and making the whole system take forever to boot
[22:53] <ahoneybun> Or I should say something is taking for ever
[22:53] <ahoneybun> Forever
[22:57] <soee> on fresh install ? strange :/
[22:57] <soee> ahoneybun: anyway jump to Wily :)
[22:57] <ahoneybun> Yep
[22:57] <ahoneybun> soee: you crash
[22:57] <ahoneybun> Crazy
[22:57] <soee> what ? :)
[22:58] <sgclark> ahoneybun: I have heard complaints, hense why I have been killing myself trying to do these backports.
[22:58] <sgclark> Unfortunately, everything that can go wrong, is.
[22:58] <ahoneybun> sgclark: this is from going to 5.3.1
[22:58] <sgclark> Slight delay..
[22:58] <ahoneybun> From stock 15.04
[22:58] <soee> sgclark: but i doubt those problems are only because of Plasma and 5.3.2 might solve them asll
[22:58] <sgclark> I am working on 5.3.2 which supposedly fxes lots
[22:59] <ahoneybun> Wily does have 5
[22:59] <ahoneybun> 5.3.2
[22:59] <soee> yes
[22:59] <ahoneybun> Thanks to sgclark 
[22:59] <soee> :)
[22:59] <ahoneybun> soee: can I change my sources.list and dist-upgradem
[23:00] <ahoneybun> Wait I still have updates left
[23:00] <soee> call the command to upgrade to devel version
[23:00] <ahoneybun> So it was half upgraded
[23:00] <soee> i think we have all those problems because of switch to sddm, Plasma 5 etc.
[23:00] <ahoneybun> soee: I agree
[23:00] <sgclark> uh yeah if the updates did not finish that would break stuff :)
[23:00] <soee> but every next release should be much easier now
[23:01] <ahoneybun> I don't see the reason for damn sddm
[23:01] <ahoneybun> We have so many logins
[23:01] <soee> ahoneybun: apt full-upgrade ?
[23:01] <ahoneybun> Running dist-upgrade
[23:01] <soee> i'm impressed how stable Wily is for me now
[23:02] <ahoneybun> No crashes from plasma soee ?
[23:02] <soee> last crash i'v seen was System Settings one
[23:02] <soee> ahoneybun: not a single one tbh if we talk about plasmashell
[23:02] <ahoneybun> 5.3.2 is a great update from what I hear
[23:02] <sgclark> I have not seen crashes in awhile
[23:03] <ahoneybun> Thank you sgclark so much for the work
[23:03] <soee> yes i think we are now at point where all will get only better
[23:03] <ahoneybun> sgclark: maybe I could be your student at akademy :)
[23:03] <soee> :-)
[23:03] <soee> i do plan to start with packaging when i finish all my urgent projects 
[23:04] <sgclark> I think packaging videos is a good plan, we certainly need help and no one has time to train properly.
[23:04] <soee> +1
[23:07] <ahoneybun> I've don't think I can use KDE 4 at all with seeing Plasma 5
[23:07]  * ahoneybun has a working system now :)
[23:16] <soee> ;]
[23:39] <ahoneybun> damn I setup btrfs wrong...
[23:56] <Sho_> aka "at all"