[05:43] kubotu: ping [05:43] pong [05:43] wow, that was long [05:43] kubotu: ping [05:43] pong [05:43] now that's better [06:21] [01:43:30] < ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping [06:21] [01:43:30] < kubotu> pong [06:21] Your side. [06:21] DalekSec: is that the first or the second one? [06:21] First. [06:22] it shows 6 seconds on my side [06:22] [08:43:24] kubotu: ping [06:22] [08:43:30] pong [06:23] then it means that my message had the delay, not kubotu's [08:57] Good morning. [10:42] Hiyas all [11:22] hiho BluesKaj [11:24] hey soee === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [13:18] hola chicos [13:18] did you miss me? [13:18] what have I missed? [13:23] Riddell: kxmlgui doesn't have 5.12 [13:24] that's what you've missed :P [13:24] does anything? [13:24] yeah [13:24] also, I need a drink [13:24] buy an irn bru [13:25] I'm not in Scotland anymore mate [13:25] I can't get it any more in Raval, must be time to go back [13:25] :O [13:25] I'm listening to Billy Joel and I feel like I could do with a drink [13:26] apparently the LHC is back in smash mode [13:31] Riddell: I am working on 5.12.0 also your script changes blew up in a big way. [13:31] ah hah [13:31] sgclark: mm I did think it might, did you not just revert to an older version of them? [13:32] Riddell: >:D< [13:32] well next batch I will lol. Still cleaning up this mess [13:32] sorry about that sgclark :( [13:32] though I think I can fix it [13:32] :-) [13:32] hiho Riddell [13:32] no worries [13:32] hope you had fun [13:33] sgclark: fwiw kxmlgui is broken [13:33] oh aye, I'm all into freestyle canoeing now, phonic monkeys here I come [13:33] just thought I'd tell [13:33] like broken how? upstream? [13:33] sgclark: no, no 5.12 packaging [13:33] stuff wants kxmlgui 5.12 [13:33] meh I am only still cleaning up merge mess [13:34] I have not got that far yet... [13:34] okay [13:34] well, I'm not touching it till Monday === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [14:16] https://www.facebook.com/ovidiub13/posts/956580651070925?notif_t=like [14:16] it seems that many things are broken in the latest update [14:17] let me know if translation is needed (if Facebook does not translate properly) [14:18] wow [14:18] are there issues with phonon4qt5-backend-vlc ? [14:19] anyone knows if vlc phono backend still leads to systemsettings crash ? [14:19] oh :) [14:19] it didn't work for a long time [14:19] because of what? [14:19] vlc issue i think, there was some patch in debain [14:19] but i dont know current state [14:20] soee: are you comming to akademy? [14:20] I'd like to meet you [14:20] ovidiu-florin: nope [14:20] this year is full of work for me, no time for any events etc. :( [14:24] woho next month Plasma 5.4 :) [14:24] and fixed Activities ! :) [14:45] shadeslayer: ping, could you upload kdenlive when you have time? [15:28] yofel: Was it fixed? [15:28] where be the fix [15:28] shadeslayer: I fixed it in kubuntu_wily_archive [15:28] ah [15:29] yofel: are you sure [15:29] Last commit was on June 9 [15:29] There are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade? [15:29] shadeslayer: well, I pinged you on thursday, but I guess you missed it [15:30] Yeah I think so [15:31] sgclark: There are some updates available in 15.04 backport, is it ok to upgrade? [15:31] um [15:31] I did not put them there [15:32] yofel: oh ok, so the last paste I have from you was this Imagination Technologies Group [15:32] erm [15:32] sgclark: so backports ppa in ok? [15:32] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11841424/ [15:32] ah yeah, that was with adding libgl and glu as build-deps, but you need to patch it to use GLES instead [15:32] murthy: what backports in what ppa? I have not finished any. [15:32] yofel: right [15:33] I think this was mentioned at some point [15:33] I cannot say if ok because they are not mine. [15:33] the git version built tine [15:33] *fine [15:33] that we patched it to use GLES at some point [15:33] I see [15:33] will have a look [15:33] sgclark: kubuntu backports 15.04 [15:33] again. I did not put them there so I cannot say they are fine. [15:34] sgclark: You were backporting 5.3.2 right? [15:34] I am still working on this mess. [15:34] I still am. [15:34] sgclark: So there is no rouge package in the ppa right? [15:35] They can't possibly be there unless someone uploaded the broken mess it is, and I am not responsible [15:36] sgclark: ok. I guess I will upgrade. Thanks you [15:36] Sorry but I have some real life to attend to. If somehow 5.3.2 is in backports I cannot be responsible for the failures. It is not ready. [15:37] murthy: if it is 5.3.2 don.t [15:37] sgclark: There is nothing rogue in the backports. [15:37] ok [15:38] sgclark: I know you are frustrated, but I can understand you. I thank you for your hard work [15:38] sorry, yes I am. [15:38] sgclark: I tried to be a packager for kubuntu myself [15:40] I have trying to get 5.3.2 out for many days and everything possible has gone wrong. Apologies that my frustrations are showing. But now I must buy food to feed my husband. I will try to have this done asap. [15:41] santa_: your patches.. fail at changelog. I will have to sort this when I get back. Did we not use to merge? That was so much easier... [15:41] sgclark: You dont have to apologies. We here understand. You do your work at your own time. The users can wait [15:42] sgclark: Free Software means we have to apologize to you for not helping more. [15:42] *apologize [15:43] Haudegen: exactly === lordievader is now known as Guest38872 [15:57] sgclark: I was told sending patches was easier (and I agree), give me just some minutes and I will send you updated versions === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader [16:32] sgclark: I have sent everything again to the mailing list, about kglobalaccel it's just a typo and it's fixed in master, so probably you want to merge master into kubuntu_wily_archive instead === tazz_ is now known as tazz === alket_ is now known as alket [19:21] santa_: Did your Ark patch got accepted? [19:22] murthy: hi, I didn't have time to send the mail wth the rationale yet, I'm buried in work [19:23] ok [19:23] santa_: thanks for the patches. applying them. [19:23] maybe next week I could, but I can't promise anything [19:23] sgclark: great, thanks! [19:23] santa_: Will it make it to 15.10? [19:24] hmm, I don't know [19:24] I don't even know if it will be accepted [19:25] santa_: does the patch have to be submitted before feature freeze? [19:25] santa_: ya, assuming if it will be accepted [19:25] not sure, I guess it depends a bit on your definition of feature [19:26] I will try to write the mail as soon as possible, and let's cross our fingers [19:26] santa_: thanks [19:27] santa_: I will see if adding the patch to the bug report will help [19:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/1404239 [19:31] Ubuntu bug 1404239 in ark (Ubuntu) "use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:31] santa_: thats the one right? [19:32] one of them [19:40] santa_: Your launchpad profile name? [19:41] Jose Manuel Santamaria Lema? [19:47] yep [19:48] murthy: https://launchpad.net/~panfaust [19:52] santa_: I just updated the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ark/+bug/1404239 [19:52] Ubuntu bug 1404239 in ark (Ubuntu) "use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:52] santa_: any other bug report need to be updated? [20:03] wb Riddell [20:05] murthy: updating that one will be enough, as I said I will try to write a long technical justification to kubuntu-devel [20:05] ok [21:26] https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=476229092546148&set=p.476229092546148&type=1&theater [21:27] do you know anything about that? [21:28] thanks valorie :) [21:29] ovidiu-florin: I guess the person in question needs to install baloo-utils [21:29] santa_: and what would that bring? [21:29] the baloo control pannel? [21:29] which, by the way should be packaged properly, argf I have to send a patch [21:30] It came to my understanding that packaging has some issues now.... [21:30] ovidiu-florin: the kio baloo thing and the indexers (at least) [21:30] stuff just won't package properly [21:36] sgclark: it seems you forgot to add the lintian override file to kexteditor [21:36] eh? [21:37] I applied patch. I can't forget something I know nothing about [21:38] sgclark: yeah but the patch created a new file: debian/libkf5texteditor5-libjs-underscore.lintian-overrides [21:38] oh perhaps I forgot add [21:38] so you have to do a git add against that file to get it included [21:38] my apologies [21:38] yeah, that's it [21:38] no prob === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [22:37] Hmm, I just finished an reinstall and upgrade route, started with 14.04 and worked my way up to 15.10. On 15.10 I noticed sddm was not installed. Have other people seen this? [22:38] After installing sddm though everything seems fine. [22:40] not sure 14.04 -> 15.10 is supported. Too many massive changes. [22:40] It wasn't directly ;) [22:40] 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 ;) [22:40] Wily images failed to boot for me. [22:40] yeah the problem lies with the switch from kde4 to plasma5 [22:41] things like missing sddm [22:41] Lightdm was installed, perhaps that is why sddm was not installed? [22:41] Thought they posted somewhere that moving to plasma5 it is best to start fresh [22:41] Hmm, I see how that can mess things up. Oh well, things seem to work fine now :) [22:41] cool [22:42] yeah lightdm default for kde4 and sddm default for plasma5 [22:42] glad it is working though [22:42] I'll configure it further tommorow and see if I run into anything else. [22:42] When I originally went from KDE4 to KF5/Plasma5, I had major issues for months before I figured out that the "kio" package was not installed. [22:43] ahh yes that would break many things [22:44] Riddell: shadeslayer: either of you around? [22:49] guys do you know what needs special configuration to make other nvidia driver version than 346 to work with sddm ? [22:49] I gave up sorry [22:51] God 15.04 is broken [22:52] Fresh install [22:52] With backport ppa [22:52] ahoneybun: what is broken ? [22:53] Kwin is crashing and making the whole system take forever to boot [22:53] Or I should say something is taking for ever [22:53] Forever [22:57] on fresh install ? strange :/ [22:57] ahoneybun: anyway jump to Wily :) [22:57] Yep [22:57] soee: you crash [22:57] Crazy [22:57] what ? :) [22:58] ahoneybun: I have heard complaints, hense why I have been killing myself trying to do these backports. [22:58] Unfortunately, everything that can go wrong, is. [22:58] sgclark: this is from going to 5.3.1 [22:58] Slight delay.. [22:58] From stock 15.04 [22:58] sgclark: but i doubt those problems are only because of Plasma and 5.3.2 might solve them asll [22:58] I am working on 5.3.2 which supposedly fxes lots [22:59] Wily does have 5 [22:59] 5.3.2 [22:59] yes [22:59] Thanks to sgclark [22:59] :) [22:59] soee: can I change my sources.list and dist-upgradem [23:00] Wait I still have updates left [23:00] call the command to upgrade to devel version [23:00] So it was half upgraded [23:00] i think we have all those problems because of switch to sddm, Plasma 5 etc. [23:00] soee: I agree [23:00] uh yeah if the updates did not finish that would break stuff :) [23:00] but every next release should be much easier now [23:01] I don't see the reason for damn sddm [23:01] We have so many logins [23:01] ahoneybun: apt full-upgrade ? [23:01] Running dist-upgrade [23:01] i'm impressed how stable Wily is for me now [23:02] No crashes from plasma soee ? [23:02] last crash i'v seen was System Settings one [23:02] ahoneybun: not a single one tbh if we talk about plasmashell [23:02] 5.3.2 is a great update from what I hear [23:02] I have not seen crashes in awhile [23:03] Thank you sgclark so much for the work [23:03] yes i think we are now at point where all will get only better [23:03] sgclark: maybe I could be your student at akademy :) [23:03] :-) [23:03] i do plan to start with packaging when i finish all my urgent projects [23:04] I think packaging videos is a good plan, we certainly need help and no one has time to train properly. [23:04] +1 [23:07] I've don't think I can use KDE 4 at all with seeing Plasma 5 [23:07] * ahoneybun has a working system now :) [23:16] ;] [23:39] damn I setup btrfs wrong... [23:56] aka "at all"