[01:23] <daftykins> bathroom spider kill count: 63
[01:24] <zmoylan-pi> not a fan of spiders then...
[01:25] <daftykins> a mother gave birth in my bathroom recently
[01:25] <daftykins> that's how many babies i've found
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> are you releasing them outside where they're coming back in so it's the same spider been recounted?
[01:27] <daftykins> lol
[01:27] <daftykins> they're all getting squashed, that's a genuine count
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> OR a spider with mutant powers of regeneration...
[01:30] <daftykins> hehe
[01:30] <daftykins> i've had 8 at a time so there could be a small platoon that can swim
[01:31] <zmoylan-pi> AND replication
[01:55] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: daftykins: are they made of metal and have a penchant for eating technology?
[01:56] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:56] <daftykins> thankfully they're not from Stargate
[01:56] <zmoylan-pi> replicators!!! ::breaks out nerf shotgun::
[01:57] <zmoylan-pi> the trick would be to lure them to a microsoft building and then shovel out the brain dead replicators later...
[01:59] <daftykins> ;D
[02:00] <zmoylan-pi> poor sods ate the vista dvd warehouse...
[02:02] <diddledan> oh god
[02:02] <diddledan> that's beyond evil
[02:02] <diddledan> I don't think even replicators deserve that fate
[02:03] <zmoylan-pi> no evil would be opening the vault doors to the windows bob stock
[02:03] <diddledan> I thought bob was buried in the desert along with atari stuff?
[02:03] <zmoylan-pi> i thought they dug that up and were selling it?
[02:04] <zmoylan-pi> open a piece of history so bad it was buried in the desert under foundations of building for decades
[02:05] <zmoylan-pi> instead of just waiting a few months and paying for ms latest... like normal people
[02:22] <zmoylan-pi> so bought a new laptop today €280 for 4gb 1tb, dvd burner 15" lenovo.  will see how it handles linux later today...
[02:25] <diddledan> lenovo are usually pretty good with linux afair
[02:26] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: neat! did it come with Windows 8? :>
[02:26] <zmoylan-pi> 8.1
[02:26] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: do let me know if you get some fun, i've gotten Linux on a few now
[02:26] <diddledan> shoulda waited for win10 :-p
[02:26] <daftykins> pretty easy though
[02:26] <daftykins> heh he specifically avoided it, apparently secure boot may not be optional with 10 machines 0o
[02:26] <zmoylan-pi> i'm gonna try dual boot.  which is awkward instead of a wipe and 100% linux
[02:27] <diddledan> it's actually a case that microsoft are not requiring that the secureboot be disableable
[02:28] <zmoylan-pi> but first i'll boot from usb drivve and see how hardware compliant the laptop is.  ie wifi, audio etc.
[02:28] <diddledan> for 8 and 8.1 due to consumer backlash microsoft stipulated that the secureboot be able to be disabled. for 10 they removed that requirement allowing manufacturers to decide for themselves whether they make it optional
[02:28] <zmoylan-pi> manufacturers decide.  ie. ms says and they obey
[02:31] <daftykins> sounds good
[02:31] <daftykins> those Lenovos waste so much disk space with recovery partitions and jazz
[02:31] <daftykins> i tend to burn off optical media restore discs, then nuke the partition, resize Windows' C: then install ubuntu after
[02:32] <zmoylan-pi> only bad thing is that only has 4hour battery life which is sucky in this day and age.  physically small battery
[02:32] <daftykins> is it a B50-## series by any chance?
[02:32] <zmoylan-pi> it has no option for restore disc generation
[02:32] <zmoylan-pi> g50 i think
[02:32] <daftykins> it no doubt will do, check the full start menu for 'lenovo recovery' or some such
[02:34] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3384338/c_1/1|category_root|Office,+PCs+and+phones|14418968/c_2/3|cat_19780850|Laptops+and+netbooks|14419039.htm
[02:36] <zmoylan-pi> the lenovo recovery software just recovers from partition or generates a snapshot of current state
[02:37] <zmoylan-pi> i don't think the snapshot is easily copied off and used with blank laptop
[02:37] <daftykins> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Welcome-FAQs-Knowledge-Base/How-to-create-quot-Factory-Default-Recovery-Disc-quot-with/ta-p/274167
[02:37] <zmoylan-pi> kinda needs windows plus lenovo software to use
[02:37] <daftykins> that any good?
[02:38] <daftykins> i've always found a prog that burns media / writes to an external hard disk
[02:39] <zmoylan-pi> i think i found that link when i was doing this a while back.  it was for business laptops not home jobbies
[02:39] <zmoylan-pi> i'll look in the morning just in case
[02:39] <daftykins> mmm, i've dealt with 4 models recently and was able to find similar on all
[02:39] <daftykins> there's always clonezilla if you have a nice size USB external HDD :)
[02:40] <zmoylan-pi> you'll need 17 cds.... that's like backing up to floppies... :-)
[02:41] <zmoylan-pi> i have a few 1,2 and 3tb drives around
[02:42] <daftykins> :D
[02:42] <daftykins> excellent!
[02:43] <daftykins> when my clients Lenovo X1 turned up it came with win7, i used clonezilla to write that to an external of mine so i could revert if there was a disaster
[02:43] <zmoylan-pi> i tried clonezilla before but got nowhere with it for reasons i can't remember
[02:43] <daftykins> just deleted that backup today in fact
[02:43] <daftykins> ah it's lovely :>
[03:17] <daftykins> nn folks \o
[03:22] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[04:33] <diddledan> m00
[04:33]  * diddledan spots daftykins waving with his left hand and zmoylan-pi with his right, so waves with both \o/
[04:34] <zmoylan-pi> 2 hands raised is the international sign of distress
[04:34] <diddledan> even if you're waving them like crazy?
[04:35] <zmoylan-pi> especially if you're waving them like crazy
[04:35] <diddledan> lol
[06:06] <mapps> hi all
[06:10] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[06:14] <mapps> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2273657/
[06:14] <mapps> sounds ok
[09:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:57] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:57] <bigcalm> Weekend with no plans
[09:57] <bigcalm> Bored already
[09:58] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:13] <bigcalm> o/
[10:14]  * brobostigon is fed up, he has sneezes because of his hayfever
[10:41] <bashrc> messing with tox
[13:22] <SuperEngineer> Has the Facebook / Pidgin / XMPP end finally happened?  No longer able to log in via Pidgin [was warned about as ending in April, it's now July - was I just lucky until now I wonder?]
[13:25] <MartijnVdS> maybe
[13:26] <SuperEngineer> ah well, that's ne less app to carry on my spinning rust ;)
[13:26] <SuperEngineer> *one
[13:27] <SuperEngineer> ...& one more reason to use the Android phone instead - doh!
[13:28] <MartijnVdS> xD
[13:30] <brobostigon> i can still conenct fine here with bitlbee, no warnings of any kind.
[13:32] <SuperEngineer> brobostigon, hmmmmmmm
[13:32] <SuperEngineer> is it using XMPP?
[13:33] <brobostigon> yes.
[13:33] <SuperEngineer> double hmmmmmmm
[13:34] <brobostigon> 13:33:37 <@root>  6 (fb): jabber, ****@chat.facebook.com (connected)
[13:37] <shauno> lol, leeeet timestamp
[13:39] <brobostigon> pretty close.
[13:40] <SuperEngineer> brobostigon, now I lnow why I couldn't use **** as username... you had it!
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> hack the planet \o/
[13:41] <brobostigon> SuperEngineer: yes, i wasnt going to give away my username to everyone.
[13:41] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[13:41] <brobostigon> :)
[15:50] <SuperEngineer> Thinking of reprting a bug but can,t think of any wording to check if a pre-existing bug report... would "XChat window behaviour is a pain in the backside" be good enough?  ;)
[15:55] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Is it the placement of the window, or the contents or what?
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> It has all those lines of text in it.. scrolling!
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> As if people are talking!
[15:58] <SuperEngineer> penguin42, it's when you slightly misplace the mouse at tabs, it decides you want it go from normal size to half screen - then if clicking on title bar to re-establish original, it decides you want original with the tabs hidden off scrren
[15:58] <shauno> sometimes ;)
[15:59] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS, or like me ... making comments too long perhaps?
[15:59] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: OK, so is it specific to xchat?
[16:00]  * penguin42 doesn't think he's hit that
[16:00] <SuperEngineer> yep, xChat, the whole XChat, & nothing but the XChat
[16:00] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Does it happen with hexchat?
[16:01] <SuperEngineer> penguin42, dunno - don't use hexchat anymore. Should I try, perhaps?
[16:02] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: People claim hexchat is newer/more supported than xchat - I switched over some time ago (on the machine I use it) and there's not much difference
[16:03]  * SuperEngineer installs hexchat!
[16:04] <SuperEngineer> back in a mo
[16:10]  * bashrc runs irssi
[16:15]  * Guest87951 likes HexChat!  Thanks [& removes XChat] ;)
[16:15] <Guest87951> Is it possible to import settings from XChat to HexChat, I wonder?
[16:16] <Guest87951> p.s. Guest87951 is me, SuperEngineer
[16:17] <penguin42> Guest87951: Rumour has it that if you find the settings directory in .config (?) and copy it to hexchat from xchat it might work
[16:36] <SuperEngineer> wee heeeee... hexchat does *not* suffer from same problem as xchat "I'll decide what you want" window problem.  Thanks
[16:37] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: No problem
[16:37] <SuperEngineer> :)
[16:38] <SuperEngineer> penguin42,  ^
[16:53] <SuperEngineer> boo
[16:54] <SuperEngineer> [that means settings successfully tranferred from xchat to hexchat]
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> *hides, scared*
[16:54] <SuperEngineer> ..& oh ...and in that case BOO!
[16:55] <MartijnVdS> 😭
[16:55] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[16:56]  * SuperEngineer uninstalls xchat
[18:03] <diddledan> the librarians is awesome!
[19:32] <foobarry> saboteurs, great programme on more4 lately
[19:33] <diddledan> idependance day: resurgence has a release date!
[19:33] <diddledan> june 24 2016
[19:34] <diddledan> you know you've worked for a design shop too long when you can name a random font used by a tv series
[19:34] <SuperEngineer> NSA Loves GCHQ: great programme on your electron eating devices - right noe!
[19:35] <diddledan> SuperEngineer: ?
[19:35] <SuperEngineer> re your own own comment diddledan
[19:36] <SuperEngineer> sabateurs etc etc
[19:36] <diddledan> o_O
[19:36] <zmoylan-pi> it doesn't count if the font is comic sans... it's the font equivalent of a red rag... :-)
[19:36] <diddledan> I didn't mention saboteurs
[19:36] <SuperEngineer> hang on ., that was foobarry
[19:36] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: papyrus
[19:36] <zmoylan-pi> a fairly recognisable font
[19:36] <SuperEngineer> my bafd
[19:37] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: true
[19:37] <SuperEngineer> bad
[19:37] <diddledan> SuperEngineer: :-p
[19:37] <foobarry> which font?
[19:37] <foobarry> were you thinking of
[19:38] <diddledan> foobarry: papyrus
[19:42] <foobarry> thats what i thought you said ;)
[19:43] <foobarry> the problem with my wife having hte remote control is that she skips through stressy or cringey bits
[19:43] <diddledan> those are the important bits for plot tho
[19:47] <foobarry> they are
[19:48] <foobarry> i often compain about that
[19:48] <foobarry> she says, you weren't watching it anyway
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> I can't watch cringey bits of TV, which is why I stopped watching.
[20:20] <foobarry> can someone mention my nick please?
[20:20] <foobarry> foobarry:
[20:23] <ali1234> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33492512 rock and roll
[20:23] <ali1234> foobarry ^
[20:23] <foobarry> ali1234: thanks, again please?
[20:24] <ali1234> foobarry doo doo doo
[20:24] <foobarry> thanks. irssi-notify not working..looks like i'll try again at work
[20:36] <penguin42> ali1234: The 3 pairs of jeans and 2 pairs of jogging bottoms is impressive
[20:37] <foobarry> actually, one more mention would be great, thanks
[20:39] <foobarry> lubotu3: would you speak to me?
[20:39] <foobarry> thanks :D
[20:39] <SuperEngineer> hmmmm... never seen jogging bottoms, just whole joggers! Must be a local byelaw prob
[20:41] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Yes, you only see them where they can go topless
[20:41] <SuperEngineer> lol