[00:00] <erkburgles> so there were unmet dependencies when i ran sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i ran sudo apt-get -f install, then got "erkburgles@erkburgles-Inspiron-3451:~$ sudo dpkg -i kde-config-telepathy-accounts_15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb
[00:00] <erkburgles> dpkg: error processing archive kde-config-telepathy-accounts_15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb (--install):
[00:00] <erkburgles>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[00:00] <erkburgles> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:00] <erkburgles>  kde-config-telepathy-accounts_15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb" (sorry will use pastebin in future)
[00:00] <erkburgles> what to do from here
[00:00] <OerHeks> noobsie, hard to say what went wrong.
[00:00] <Ben64> erkburgles: you did not get a prompt where you had to type in dpkg -i....
[00:01] <Ben64> erkburgles: try running sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^ and pastebin the result
[00:03] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858732/
[00:04] <andy_mahurin> noobsie, You can try https://www.python.org/downloads/source/.
[00:04] <andy_mahurin> It might be a better way to download the latest version of python.
[00:04] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858735/
[00:06] <erkburgles> crap i did not put in the ^
[00:08] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858746/
[00:09] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858750/
[00:12] <noobsie> andy_mahurin: Thanks.
[00:12] <en1gma> anyone tell me why i get this error when i try to compile?
[00:12] <en1gma> "cc -std=c99 -O3 -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -o pixiewps pixiewps.c -lcrypto -I../include"
[00:12] <en1gma> i have libssl-dev and openssl-dev installed
[00:13] <noobsie> OerHeks: after enabling the recommended updates, I cannot still find python3-venv package? I see it listed here in Universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/python3-venv
[00:13] <atXyc0> hello, i need to find libgl1-mesa-swx11 for trusty
[00:14] <andy_mahurin> noobsie, You are welcome.
[00:14] <andy_mahurin> Good luck.
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> !find libgl1-mesa trusty | atXyc0
[00:16] <andy_mahurin> There was supposed to be a SVN repository that you could download from, but I am not familiar enough with SVN, and I couldn't find where the SVN repository was.
[00:17] <erkburgles> hi, i am trying to install kde, I have two pastebin urls available up above if anyone could take a look and give me a pointer
[00:17] <en1gma> anyone see my Q about 5mins ago?
[00:18] <nicomachus_> !patience | en1gma
[00:19] <nicomachus_> and I'm not sure that package is supported here.
[00:19] <Maybejojo_> hi all
[00:20] <en1gma> those packages are supported. (libssl-dev and openssl-dev)
[00:21] <erkburgles> is TJ around?
[00:21] <nicomachus_> en1gma, pixiewps is a wps cracking program. is that what you were trying to install?
[00:22] <en1gma> oh that package? i dont think its a package problem but probably a location for the -I /include
[00:22] <en1gma> yea it is
[00:23] <nicomachus_> generally, people in this channel don't like to provide support for cracking programs. if someone wants to help, however, they will reply.
[00:23] <erkburgles> nicomachus would you take a look at my pastebin urls
[00:24] <andy_mahurin> noobsie, I am not sure if this will be useful for you.  It is a link to the python repository on github, which copies the python SVN.  https://github.com/python-git/python.
[00:24] <andy_mahurin> noobsie, It seems to take a lot of skill to install python this way, but it will give you the latest version.
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> en1gma  hit the up arrow to repeat your question
[00:24] <nicomachus_> erkburgles, you may have some luck with the dpkg error running 'sudo apt-get clean'
[00:25] <en1gma> "cc -std=c99 -O3 -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -o pixiewps pixiewps.c -lcrypto -I../include"
[00:25] <erkburgles> i think i tried that but lets see again
[00:25] <en1gma> make error
[00:25] <nmatrix9> anyone have issues with their asusu monitor with a 2 inch black margin around their screen?
[00:26] <nicomachus_> nmatrix9: HDMI?
[00:26] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, yeah
[00:26] <noobsie> andy_mahurin: I have Python installed already, the issue is Ubuntu saw fit to split the Python 3.4 version and remove portions of it. I was surprised to see this wasn't fixed after a year, and since I don't use Ubuntu often don't know how to fix it.
[00:26] <erkburgles> receiving the unmet dependencies error again
[00:26] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, it's driving me nuts
[00:26] <nicomachus_> erkburgles: did you run 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[00:26] <erkburgles> yes
[00:27] <erkburgles> all in the pastebin urls
[00:27] <nicomachus_> nmatrix9: it's overscan.
[00:27] <erkburgles> same thing again after the apt-get clean
[00:27] <erkburgles> and running it again
[00:27] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, ok, how to fix?  It shows up even on rescue mode and my boot cd
[00:27] <erkburgles> i was trying to force overite but getting file not found error
[00:28] <erkburgles> no such file or directory
[00:29] <nicomachus_> nmatrix9: there's a few options. The monitor itself may have a setting for it in the settings menu. If you have and AMD card you can adjust it in the Catalyst Control Center. Not sure what the nvidia equivalent is. If those fail, you can use xrandr to manually adjust it from terminal
[00:29] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, looking in the menus could "overscan" go by any other name?
[00:30] <andy_mahurin> noobsie, That's interesting.  I just leave my python installation alone.
[00:30] <nicomachus_> nmatrix9: in the monitor settings? yea... it really varies depending on the monitor.
[00:30] <nicomachus_> nmatrix9: I have a tv that I use as a monitor that doesn't even have the option, though.
[00:30] <nicomachus_> but an asus monitor should.
[00:31] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, only thing I could find is aspect control or trace free
[00:31] <nicomachus_> aspect control may do it. fiddle with it.
[00:32] <noobsie> andy_mahurin: well it is standard practice to use virtualenv, in this case it's venv with Python3.4 and it is included, but venv was yanked out of Python 3.4 and I have no idea how to put it back in, because well I need it....
[00:32] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, switched it over to overscan
[00:32] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, from option full to "overscan"
[00:32] <nicomachus_> did that help?
[00:32] <nmatrix9> still looks the same do I need to reboot or something?
[00:33] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, looks slightly sharper but the black margin still appears
[00:33] <nicomachus_> no. what type of graphics card are you running?
[00:34] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, Geforce 550 Ti
[00:35] <erkburgles> any thoughts nicomachus
[00:36] <nicomachus_> erkburgles: sorry, I got nothing.
[00:36] <erkburgles> ok, do you konw of another channel where someone might be able to help?
[00:36] <nmatrix9> nicomachus_, I'am gonna do a reboot
[00:40] <nicomachus> erkburgles: I'm sorry, I don't. Someone else may come in here that will know more than I do. You may try askubuntu or superuser until then.
[00:44] <nmatrix9> Iam wondering could my monitor be broken?
[00:45] <Maybejojo_> Try hooking another computer to it
[00:46] <nmatrix9> Maybejojo_, I thought about that I have a laptop but it needs a special hdmi connector.
[00:46] <nmatrix9> it's a work laptop
[00:48] <Maybejojo_> you are going hdmi from laptop to vga monitor?
[00:48] <nmatrix9> Maybejojo_, no I am using a desktop which is using hdmi for the monitor
[00:49] <Maybejojo_> oh so hdmi desktop to hdmi on the monitor
[00:52] <ideas-before-try> hi all i am wanting to connect my ipad to my ubutnu os its gives syncing error
[00:52] <ideas-before-try> ubuntu 14.04 arm os
[00:53] <nmatrix9> Maybejojo_, yes
[00:53] <ideas-before-try> any ideas would help
[00:54] <daftykins> ideas-before-try: connect for what purpose?
[00:54] <Maybejojo_> nmatrix9: and you have tried changing the resolutioin
[00:54] <daftykins> nmatrix9: uh-oh you're back
[00:54] <nmatrix9> Maybejojo_, it's telling me that my only option is 1280x800
[00:55] <daftykins> nmatrix9: did you sort out your nvidia driver?
[00:56] <nmatrix9> daftykins, no
[00:56] <ideas-before-try> daftykins:transferring files off ipad
[00:56] <daftykins> ideas-before-try: can't be done
[00:56] <ideas-before-try> are you sure
[00:56] <daftykins> nmatrix9: so you're futzing with resolution settings again before resolving the core issue?
[00:57] <daftykins> ideas-before-try: which iOS version?
[00:57] <nmatrix9> daftykins, the core issue being installing the nvidia drivers?  I've done that already, over 10 times to be exact I think I've install almost every possible version that can be installed for ubuntu.
[00:57] <ideas-before-try> http://itsfoss.com/mount-iphone-ipad-ios-7-ubuntu-13-10/ its just i am on a ubuntu arm os
[00:57] <daftykins> ideas-before-try: see the first and second reply here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/151584/how-to-copy-existing-movie-files-on-ipad-to-watch
[00:57] <daftykins> ideas-before-try: ubuntu ARM? oh dear. even less chance.
[00:58] <daftykins> nmatrix9: right but you never actually tackled the fact that the X log then said the module wasn't available i'm betting.
[00:58] <daftykins> nmatrix9: show me a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[00:59] <nmatrix9> daftykins, it's not installed now I just purged about a hour ago
[00:59] <daftykins> i want to see it regardless.
[01:00] <nmatrix9> daftykins, says Iam sending a empty document
[01:01] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" shows nothing huh?
[01:01] <nmatrix9> daftykins, also did a purge, reinstall of xserver-xorg earlier today
[01:01] <daftykins> erk.
[01:02] <daftykins> nmatrix9: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:02] <daftykins> lets see if it's still the same situation.
[01:02] <daftykins> also a "uname -r" and a "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"
[01:02] <nmatrix9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858911/
[01:03] <daftykins> ugh you put all that boot parameter rubbish back =|
[01:04] <daftykins> so, the rest?
[01:04] <nmatrix9> daftykins, well I tried it without and I tried it with and I jumped back to without and with agin
[01:04] <sajmon>  folks yaman
[01:04] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858914/
[01:05] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858919/
[01:05] <daftykins> hmm, a signed EFI kernel
[01:05] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-57-generic
[01:05] <daftykins> oops no
[01:05] <daftykins> typo.
[01:05] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[01:06] <nmatrix9> daftykins, fyi the black margin around my screen, I did some research other people online have experienced the exact same issue says it has something to do with "overscan" settings
[01:07] <daftykins> you're booting right now with vesafb, investigating that issue is a total waste of time
[01:08] <daftykins> done yet?
[01:08] <nmatrix9> yes
[01:08] <daftykins> ok give us a fresh "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"
[01:08] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858926/
[01:09] <daftykins> nmatrix9: ok now remove that junk you added - nomodeset=1 video=uvesafb:mode_option=1440x900-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug
[01:09] <daftykins> nmatrix9: fresh boot after that, then give me another pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:09] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok
[01:10] <Icabash> I’m having some network issues with an Ubuntu Server install. I installed an old copy of Ubuntu Server (Ubuntu Server 12.something), and used do-release-upgrade to bring it up to 14.04. During the initial install, I was having some trouble with the cd and so I skipped one of the steps towards the beginning with network setup and was able to proceed with the rest of the installation as normal. I think that may have something to d
[01:10] <Icabash> with the issues I’m having now, where my connection to the server over ssh will freeze occasionally. Is there any way that I could try to remedy this or troubleshoot what’s wrong? Some magic log files? Maybe there’s some way to reinstall network drivers? If anyone could help me, they’d have my eternal gratitude :)
[01:11] <daftykins> IceBear: what's this systems current kernel?
[01:12] <Icabash> Ordinarily I’d just burn a new cd and call it a day, but I don’t have easy access to a computer with a working cd drive.
[01:12] <daftykins> no flash drive ?
[01:12] <daftykins> IceBear: oops bad highlight, sorry
[01:12] <daftykins> Icabash: no flash drive? what's this systems kernel version?
[01:12] <Icabash> The server that I’m trying to install it on has an outdated bios, so flash drives won’t work
[01:13] <Icabash> Linux PE2960-i-2 3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:28:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:13] <Icabash> And I can’t burn a bios update disk because I don’t have a working disk drive :(
[01:14] <nicomachus> Icabash: somewhat unrelated, and irrelevant because you don't have a drive to burn with, but theres a program called plop boot manager that allows older bios to boot from usb. https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[01:14] <nicomachus> may come in handy in the future.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[01:14] <Icabash> ooooh
[01:14] <Icabash> That would definitely come in handy, haha
[01:15] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858936/
[01:15] <nicomachus> saved my butt a couple times. lol
[01:15] <daftykins> nmatrix9: does an /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?
[01:16] <nmatrix9> daftykins, no
[01:17] <nmatrix9> daftykins, must of been removed during xserver reinstall
[01:17] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I got backups though
[01:17] <daftykins> no one doesn't normally exist and shouldn't :)
[01:17] <erkburgles> hey daftykins, could you look at these pastebins and see if you know whats up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858746/
[01:17] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[01:17] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858750/
[01:17] <daftykins> nmatrix9: use the above on xorg-edgers
[01:18] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok
[01:18] <Icabash> Hm, I think that rather than try to troubleshoot this, I’ll just backup my files and try to find a computer with a working cd drive to use that boot manager. Thanks nicomachu!
[01:20] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok gonna purge xorg-edgers
[01:22] <nmatrix9> daftykins, still purging
[01:22] <erkburgles> tyte
[01:22] <daftykins> good stuff
[01:24] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ppa purged successfully
[01:24] <nicomachus> well, I installed the -57 kernel and it won't boot. neither will -55. -54 worked just fine, but autoremove took it out. I'm in a live cd with everything mounted and chroot, but can't get the -54 kernel installed.
[01:25] <erkburgles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858956/
[01:25] <erkburgles> success
[01:25] <daftykins> nicomachus: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-54-generic
[01:25] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Im using a VBOX VM  with Ubuntu 14.04. I want this VM to mount ceertain devices, so I added them to the fstab file (http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858949/). But I get an error for the C_DRIVE, Copy and Downloads devices, which I skip. Now the ftp device gives a message stating that it is taking to look, I wait and ubuntu finally logs in, bot none of the last 4 devices is mounted...
[01:25] <nimbiotics> ...yet, when I issu the mount -a command, all of the devices get mount w/o any issues. Please help me figure this one out. TIA!
[01:26] <daftykins> more of a virtualbox question that
[01:28] <nicomachus> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/11858965
[01:28] <daftykins> nicomachus: apt-get update && apt-cache search linux-image-3.13.0
[01:28] <daftykins> see which ones you get offered.
[01:29] <erkburgles> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858956/
[01:29] <OerHeks> erkburgles, nice paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858956/ so you want help?
[01:29] <erkburgles> na
[01:30] <erkburgles> that was HOURS ago
[01:30] <OerHeks> !coc > erkburgles
[01:30] <erkburgles> cute
[01:30] <nmatrix9> daftykins, What next?
[01:31] <erkburgles> qt
[01:31] <daftykins> nmatrix9: fresh boot and another /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[01:31] <erkburgles> !coc > OerHeks
[01:32] <nicomachus> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/11858985 what's this 'add-cdrom' business? never seen that before.
[01:33] <OerHeks> nicomachus, that happens when you install from usb, and cdrom is enabled in sources, but not in the drive
[01:33] <daftykins> nicomachus: or do you have a disc in the drive? check your software and sources config
[01:33] <nicomachus> I have a disc in the drive.
[01:34] <nicomachus> ...the live disc.
[01:34] <daftykins> oh you said this was a live session didn't you, mmm
[01:35] <nicomachus> I have having trouble with apt-get earlier, but there was no DNS server listed in resolv.conf. Added 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and I'm not getting the connection errors anymore... but still this.
[01:35] <daftykins> isn't this the chroot? odd to see claims of 14.04.1 still
[01:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858993/
[01:35] <nicomachus> yes it's the chroot.
[01:35] <daftykins> are you really on an out of date install then?
[01:35] <nicomachus> I'm on 14.04, yea.
[01:35] <daftykins> nicomachus: you did mount things in the correct way for the chroot? like /dev and /proc and the other one etc
[01:36] <daftykins> nicomachus: yeah but 14.04.2 is current
[01:36] <nicomachus> should be 14.04.2
[01:36] <nicomachus> I mounted /dev/sda1, then /dev /proc and /sys
[01:36] <daftykins> nmatrix9: give us a "lspci | pastebinit"
[01:37] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859007/
[01:37] <daftykins> nicomachus: 64-bit install?
[01:38] <nicomachus> daftykins: yes.
[01:38] <daftykins> nicomachus: you can wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.13.0-54-generic_3.13.0-54.91_amd64.deb
[01:38] <daftykins> obviously dpkg -i blah.deb
[01:39] <nicomachus> yep, lemme try. let's hope wget is installed...
[01:39] <daftykins> should be fine :>
[01:39] <daftykins> nmatrix9: what do you get from "modprobe nouveau" ?
[01:39] <daftykins> er with sudo
[01:41] <nicomachus> bahhh. unable to resolve host address security.ubuntu.com
[01:41] <daftykins> hang on
[01:43] <daftykins> nicomachus: http://91.189.92.200/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.13.0-54-generic_3.13.0-54.91_amd64.deb
[01:43] <nicomachus> lol
[01:43] <nmatrix9> daftykins, that
[01:43] <nicomachus> that'll work...
[01:43] <daftykins> nmatrix9: ?
[01:44] <nmatrix9> daftykins, My screen went entirely pink, and then little green dots appeared
[01:44] <nicomachus> daftykins: wth. failed: No route to host.
[01:44] <nmatrix9> daftykins, and I couldn't even jump to another terminal
[01:44] <nmatrix9> daftykins, had to reboot
[01:44] <daftykins> nicomachus: "ip route" show an IP? perhaps your host live session has lost connectivity - or you need to exit and rejoin the chroot
[01:45] <nicomachus> shows a local ip
[01:45] <daftykins> is it your router?
[01:45] <nicomachus> I have firefox open in the live session... that's where the pastebins are coming from.
[01:45] <daftykins> should be "default via <router IP> via eth0"
[01:45] <nicomachus> yep, that's it.
[01:45] <daftykins> hrmm.
[01:46] <daftykins> download on the live session into the local disk?
[01:46] <nicomachus> interesting.
[01:46] <daftykins> i'm assuming you used the chroot to try downloading
[01:46] <nicomachus> I did
[01:46] <daftykins> cool
[01:46] <daftykins> nmatrix9: familiar with TTYs?
[01:47] <nicomachus> it's downloading now in the live session.
[01:47] <daftykins> \o/
[01:47] <nmatrix9> daftykins, virtual terminals yes
[01:48] <rrr_> i want to install ubuntu on separate partition. what size should I allocate that partition
[01:48] <daftykins> nmatrix9: drop to TTY1, issue "sudo service lightdm stop" - run "sudo modprobe nouveau" then start lightdm again with "sudo service lightdm start"
[01:48] <rrr_> ?
[01:48] <daftykins> rrr_: the default files will take up around 4GB so give it as much over the top of that as you think you'll install software.
[01:49] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok
[01:49] <daftykins> more if you'll have /home on it too
[01:49] <rrr_> daftykins: what typical size for with or without /home?
[01:50] <daftykins> rrr_: depends, what are you going to do on this system? store much media? will it be your daily driver?
[01:50] <rrr_> no media. testing purpose
[01:51] <rrr_> daftykins: if working well, devleopment on it
[01:51] <daftykins> rrr_: 20GB would likely be a good absolute minimum, single partition boot, root, home then.
[01:54] <nicomachus> daftykins: how do I move this .deb over to the mounted system now?
[01:54] <rrr__> daftykins: do i need to add swap partition?
[01:55] <daftykins> nicomachus: you should be able to just copy it directly into /your/chroot/mount/point/home/username/
[01:55] <nicomachus> daftykins: if I try to just copy/paste it says permssion denied.
[01:55] <daftykins> nicomachus: can you pastebin the output of "mount" on the host live session?
[01:55] <daftykins> rrr__: how much RAM do you have?
[01:55] <nicomachus> oh wait. I probably need to open leafpad with gksudo
[01:56] <daftykins> what's leafpad gonna do?
[01:56] <rrr__> daftykins: 8G but i need to use vbox a lot
[01:56] <nicomachus> file manger for lubuntu so I can copy paste. never got the hang of doing it from terminal
[01:56] <daftykins> ah
[01:56] <nicomachus> duh, not leafpad. it's PCmanFM
[01:57] <daftykins> cp /path/to/.deb /your/chroot/mount/point/home/username/
[01:57] <daftykins> ;)
[01:57] <nmatrix9> daftykins, Went to tty1 ran the modprobe on nouveau, screen flickered and then went black, couldn't jump to other tty's had to do hard reboot
[01:57] <nicomachus> well if you insist...
[01:57] <daftykins> nmatrix9: neat! seems it really doesn't like your card :>
[01:57] <daftykins> nmatrix9: ok give this a run: update-alternatives --set gl_conf /usr/lib/mesa/ld.so.conf
[01:57] <nmatrix9> daftykins, now it doesn't like it?  It's been running on this thing for over a year.
[01:58] <nmatrix9> daftykins, actually make that nearly 2 years
[01:58] <nicomachus> jesus... never-ending errors. "dpkg: unrecoverable error, aborting: syntax error: unknown user 'hplip' in statoverride file"
[01:58] <daftykins> nmatrix9: also show me a "apt-cache showpkg xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[01:59] <nicomachus> after running dpkg -i on the deb
[01:59] <daftykins> nicomachus: can you show the entire output?
[01:59] <nicomachus> that was the entire output.
[01:59] <daftykins> single line o0
[02:00] <nmatrix9> daftykins, update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for gl_conf
[02:00] <nicomachus> there was a line break after aborting:, but yea.
[02:01] <daftykins> nicomachus: take a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride and try removing the mention of hplip inside? more here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/335538/unknown-user-in-statoverride-file
[02:01] <nicomachus> daftykins: found a forum post that says to use "dpkg-statoverride"
[02:01] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859053/
[02:02] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[02:02] <daftykins> nmatrix9: then install it again
[02:03] <nmatrix9> daftykins, done
[02:04] <daftykins> nmatrix9: fresh boot and /var/log/Xorg.0.log again :>
[02:04] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Im using a VBOX VM  with Ubuntu 14.04. I want this VM to mount ceertain devices, so I added them to the fstab file (http://paste.ubuntu.com/11858949/). But I get an error for the C_DRIVE, Copy and Downloads devices, which I skip. Now the ftp device gives a message stating that it is taking to look, I wait and ubuntu finally logs in, bot none of the last 4 devices is mounted...
[02:04] <nimbiotics> ...yet, when I issu the mount -a command, all of the devices get mount w/o any issues. Please help me figure this one out. TIA!
[02:06] <daftykins> nimbiotics: already said seems more a vbox problem, have you asked them?
[02:06] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I read that but why then, would mount -a work w/o a glitch?
[02:06] <ritsu> hi
[02:07] <daftykins> nimbiotics: the module for virtualbox must be coming up too slow.
[02:07] <Ionic> wtf
[02:07] <Ionic> what C_DRIVE supposed to be? a label?
[02:07] <Ionic> isn't that supposed to say LABEL=C_DRIVE in that case?
[02:07] <daftykins> read the vbox docs and you'll learn.
[02:08] <daftykins> nope :)
[02:08] <Ionic> oh, it's vboxsf
[02:08] <nimbiotics> daftykins: make s sense ... any way to control that?
[02:08] <nicomachus> daftykins: output of the dpkg -i now that I got that line removed. paste.ubuntu.com/11859068
[02:08] <Ionic> so a share name
[02:08] <daftykins> nimbiotics: no idea.
[02:08] <nicomachus> lot of errors...
[02:08] <nimbiotics> daftykins: Thanks!
[02:08] <Ionic> yeah, the module is probably loaded too late
[02:09] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859070/
[02:09] <nicomachus> but it looks like it may have been successful anyway?
[02:09] <daftykins> nicomachus: seems so, you could try installing awk and repeating?
[02:09] <daftykins> check a "apt-get -f install" too
[02:09] <mgolisch> maybe add it to /etc/modules or try _netdev in the mount options
[02:09] <mgolisch> that should delay mounting to where networking is up
[02:10] <mgolisch> maybe that late enough for the vbox stuff to loaded then
[02:10] <Ionic> daftykins: awk? not gawk?
[02:10] <nicomachus> Ionic: yes awk. it defaulted to mawk though.
[02:10] <daftykins> Ionic: read the pastebin like i did?
[02:10] <Ionic> yes, it wants an awk binary (or symlink)
[02:10] <nicomachus> and daftykins: awk was installed. -f install didn't do anything. autoremove wants to take out linux-headers-generic
[02:11] <Ionic> AFAIK awk is free-standing and can be switches between gawk and mawk via alternatives
[02:11] <Ionic> s/switches/switched/
[02:11] <daftykins> nicomachus: hmm, exit your chroot, unmount and try a boot then i guess :S
[02:11] <nicomachus> guess so.
[02:11] <daftykins> actually
[02:11] <daftykins> in some ways i'm concerned it's not done enough without having made an initramfs
[02:12] <daftykins> nicomachus: list your chroot's /boot first actually
[02:12] <nicomachus> whoops, too late.
[02:12] <daftykins> perhaps we can spot if a file is missing for the -54 kernel
[02:12] <daftykins> ah well
[02:12] <nicomachus> but it had -54 and -55 in there.
[02:12] <daftykins> mmm i'm wondering if all files or not though
[02:12] <nicomachus> yea me too.
[02:12] <Ionic> daftykins: most likely failing to load ahci
[02:12] <daftykins> wat
[02:13] <nicomachus> lol
[02:13] <nicomachus>  /mnt is busy? not sure where
[02:13] <Ionic> nicomachus: are you still in /mnt with your shell?
[02:13] <daftykins> any open terminal inside it?
[02:13] <nicomachus> nope.
[02:14] <darius93> whats the best option to remove something from the iptables within the chain without knowing the number line?
[02:15] <Ionic> darius93: -F
[02:15] <Ionic> err
[02:15] <Ionic> "something", not "everything"
[02:15] <Ionic> in that case, simply provide the full rule
[02:15] <Ionic> it will automatically remove the first one that matches IIRC
[02:15] <daftykins> nmatrix9: what do you get from "cat /proc/fb" ?
[02:16] <Ionic> (and -D of course)
[02:16] <darius93> Ah okay, i was about to say isnt -F to delete everything within the chain lol
[02:16] <daftykins> hey Ionic since you're in the mood for helping, have you encountered KMS being disabled in xorg.log before?
[02:16] <Ionic> darius93: to emphasize... -F deletes a full chain
[02:16] <Ionic> daftykins: no, but then again I have no devices capable of KMS
[02:16] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859087/
[02:17] <Ionic> which is a lie... i915, but that's working with KMS (not tested on Ubuntu though)
[02:17] <daftykins> nmatrix9: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
[02:17] <Ionic> nouveau kills my notebook, so I've never used that
[02:17] <Ionic> (known problem with Apple hardware)
[02:18] <nicomachus> whoa... grub is black.
[02:18] <Ionic> nicomachus: let's hope you only selected a black theme!
[02:18] <PatrickWolf> Hello? o.o
[02:18] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859092/
[02:18] <PatrickWolf> Can anyone here help me with a networking issue regarding a USB wifi device?
[02:18] <daftykins> nmatrix9: dpkg -l | grep bumble | pastebinit
[02:19] <nicomachus> Ionic: if only. looks like the kernel didn't fully install.
[02:19] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: ask away and someone may respond
[02:19] <bodhi_zazen> PatrickWolf, what hardware and what problem ?
[02:19] <Ionic> nicomachus: is it panicing? do the keyboard LED's blink? any output?
[02:19] <PatrickWolf> It is a WNDA3100v3 Netgear adapter, and I've installed the driver using ndisgtk, and I can't connect to the wi-fi netowkr.
[02:19] <PatrickWolf> network*
[02:20] <Ionic> nicomachus: did you ever see the normal grub prompt? or have you hosed grub, the bootloader?
[02:20] <nicomachus> dropped me to a shell. dev/desk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxx doesn't exit. I had the normal grub prompt, went to advanced and tried to boot the -54 kernel
[02:20] <Ionic> nicomachus: yeah. that means your disk driver couldn't be loaded, which doesn't surprise me. you have no initrd.
[02:21] <bodhi_zazen> PatrickWolf, with what error ? what wireless protocol ? WPA ?
[02:21] <daftykins> nicomachus: back to live session by the sounds :(
[02:21] <Ionic> disk controller driver even
[02:21] <Ionic> well or boot an older kernel, that should be working
[02:21] <nicomachus> daftykins: yep... booting up. may take a few tries.
[02:21] <PatrickWolf> It's a WPA security, and the  terminal returns the error dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: The connection is closed
[02:21] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859120/
[02:21] <nicomachus> Ionic: been working on this for a couple hours now. has to be the -54 kernel.
[02:22] <daftykins> nmatrix9: oh good lord XD sudo apt-get purge bumblebee
[02:22] <Ionic> nicomachus: bootup, chroot, then "which awk"
[02:22] <daftykins> nmatrix9: then give me another: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
[02:22] <nicomachus> working on it. takes a few restarts before the live disk will boot, usually.
[02:22] <Ionic> why?!
[02:22] <nicomachus> pos machine.
[02:22] <nicomachus> don't ask.
[02:22] <daftykins> sounds like bad RAM or a bad disc?
[02:22] <Ionic> positives? point of sales?
[02:23] <daftykins> ;)
[02:23] <nicomachus> piece of s
[02:23] <Ionic> ah
[02:23] <daftykins> alami
[02:23] <daftykins> *whistle*
[02:23] <nicomachus> yea. salami.
[02:23] <daftykins> ^_^
[02:23] <daftykins> nmatrix9: this is a desktop right? :>
[02:23] <nmatrix9> daftykins, yes
[02:24] <Ionic> nicomachus: update-initramfs should generate initramfs'
[02:24] <nmatrix9> daftykins, it's empty for grep nouveau
[02:24] <daftykins> nmatrix9: cool, another reboot and fresh /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[02:24] <nicomachus> Ionic and daftykins: pretty sure the RAM slots on the mobo are bad. need a new mobo, but will have a new CPU and new RAM when I do. so... saving up. lol
[02:24] <daftykins> erk!
[02:24] <nicomachus> have to get*
[02:25] <PatrickWolf> So, I can't figure out how to get this netgear Wi-FI adatper to work lol
[02:25] <Ionic> nicomachus: surprisingly bad machine. and your time seems to be worth nothing :p
[02:25] <nicomachus> Ionic: free time is the one thing I have in ABUNDANCE.
[02:25] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: what does it come up as in lspci/lsusb ?
[02:26] <nmatrix9> daftykins, sorry Iam using ubuntu server (long story why)
[02:26] <nicomachus> plus, I'm learning tons of stuff fixing all these errors that crop up.
[02:26] <PatrickWolf> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0846:9014 NetGear, Inc.
[02:26] <Ionic> if mine had bad memory or only booted up once every few tries, I couldn't be bothered to wait for it
[02:26] <Ionic> (even worse, I know how bad data corruption is)
[02:27] <nicomachus> Ionic: you missed when I was trying to recover the crypts_luks partition that got corrupted on it. ;)
[02:27] <Ionic> there you go...
[02:28] <nicomachus> think boot-repair might fix the initrd?
[02:28] <bodhi_zazen> PatrickWolf, I have not had much luck with netgear wireless USB devices and Linux in general, but ... can you connect if yoy udisable WPA ?
[02:28] <Ionic> unlikely
[02:28] <Ionic> you'll have to create the initrd
[02:28] <PatrickWolf> Well, what exactly do you mean bodhi_zazen?
[02:28] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: i think you should ditch it and get a supported device.
[02:29] <bodhi_zazen> On your router, disable WPA and connect without WPA security
[02:29] <PatrickWolf> I would If I had any money or time to CARE about getting a new one lol
[02:29] <nmatrix9> daftykins, you are awesome I got full screen now
[02:29] <daftykins> nmatrix9: :D :D
[02:29] <PatrickWolf> Also, I don't own the routers, it is a motel network
[02:29] <Ionic> pdate-initramfs -c -k 3.13.0-54-generic should take care of that
[02:29] <nmatrix9> daftykins, you brilliant bastard
[02:29] <Ionic> update-initramfs -c -k 3.13.0-54-generic
[02:29] <daftykins> nmatrix9: ok it'll still be on the open source driver nouveau though, is that all you want or do you game?
[02:29] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I watch movies
[02:30] <Ionic> does nouveau support VDPAU/VAAPI? probably not...
[02:30] <nmatrix9> daftykins, is there a repository that I can download nvidia drivers safely?
[02:30] <nicomachus> meh, maybe? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859134/
[02:30] <baja> my skype is not working
[02:30] <baja> i cannot log in
[02:30] <daftykins> nmatrix9: to be honest that card isn't the newest, you could try nvidia-331 to start with - or just go back to xorg-edgers and install their latest, should be fine now
[02:31] <nmatrix9> daftykins, yeah I don't mind the 331 as long as I have some video acceleration and glx
[02:31] <Ionic> nicomachus: won't help, but go ahead
[02:32] <daftykins> nmatrix9: :) cool, should be as easy as apt-get install nvidia-331 then
[02:32] <nicomachus> daftykins: ls /boot appears to show the kernel fully installed.
[02:32] <nmatrix9> daftykins, brother  I sure hope so
[02:32] <nicomachus> lol, i feel your pain, nmatrix9!
[02:33] <Ionic> nicomachus: can be a red herring, if the initramfs file is there, but empty
[02:33] <daftykins> nicomachus: does it have an initrd matching it though?
[02:33] <PatrickWolf> So attempting to install the latest NVIDIA Driver, it says You appear to be running an X server; Please exit X before installing.
[02:33] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: yeah don't install the download.
[02:33] <Ionic> daftykins: it does, but we don't know if it's a good initrd
[02:33] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: what card do you have?
[02:33] <daftykins> Ionic: understood
[02:33] <PatrickWolf> GTX 970
[02:33] <baja> i want to uninstall skype
[02:33] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: ubuntu version?
[02:34] <nicomachus> baja: sudo apt-get purge skype
[02:34] <daftykins> baja: sudo apt-get purge skype
[02:34] <daftykins> :D
[02:34] <Ionic> nicomachus: why do you need the -54 kernel anyway?
[02:34] <nicomachus> \o/
[02:34] <PatrickWolf> 15.04
[02:34] <nicomachus> Ionic: it's the only one that will boot reliably.
[02:34] <Ionic> 55 doesn't?
[02:34] <nicomachus> no. kernel panic, every time
[02:34] <nicomachus> same for -57
[02:34] <Ionic> nicomachus: what kernel panic?
[02:35] <Ionic> looks like you uninstalled -57
[02:35] <nmatrix9> *nmatrix9 hesitantly installs the 331 drivers*
[02:35] <baja> if i reinstall will it resume working normal?
[02:35] <daftykins> nmatrix9: i believe in you! XD
[02:35] <baja> skype
[02:35] <nicomachus> Ionic: that I did. and yes, baja, it should.
[02:35] <PatrickWolf> daftykins: Version 15.04
[02:35] <daftykins> nmatrix9: do show me a pastebin of the output from installing it, too
[02:36] <Ionic> nicomachus: what are you wearing?
[02:36] <nicomachus> here's the output of ls /boot: paste.ubuntu.com/11859156
[02:36] <Ionic> err, doing right now
[02:36] <nmatrix9> daftykins, it's installing now not sure how to pastebinit that
[02:36] <nicomachus> awkward..
[02:36] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: see if you are offered a driver from additional drivers, click the dash icon top left if this is unity, then type "additional drivers"
[02:36] <baja> ok let me log out first and then reinstall
[02:36] <daftykins> nmatrix9: in terminal ja?
[02:36] <Ionic> nicomachus: next time better use -lh too
[02:36] <daftykins> nmatrix9: just drag out the window and manually throw it onto http://paste.ubuntu.com once it finishes
[02:37] <PatrickWolf> daftykins: It says it is using NVIDIA binary driver- version 346.59, propreitary, tested.
[02:37] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ah, neat did not know you could do that.
[02:37] <nicomachus> Ionic: paste.ubuntu.com/11859166
[02:37] <Ionic> hm
[02:37] <nicomachus> initrd does look small
[02:38] <Ionic> the initrd doesn't look small
[02:38] <Ionic> 162K?
[02:38] <Ionic> it's compressed
[02:38] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: yeah no point getting any newer then.
[02:38] <Ionic> but yeah still
[02:38] <Ionic> who knows
[02:38] <PatrickWolf> Alright then, thanks daftykins
[02:38] <Ionic> both are rather small
[02:38] <daftykins> np!
[02:38] <PatrickWolf> Guess I'll just hope my wireless extender holds up for a while XD
[02:38] <baja> E: Unable to locate package skype
[02:38] <Ionic> mine is 4.1 MB (xz-compressed, manually configured kernel)
[02:38] <baja> E: Unable to locate package skype
[02:39] <nicomachus> baja: with purge or the reinstall?
[02:39] <Ionic> I can't believe it should be 160K for you
[02:39] <daftykins> baja: yeah saw it the first time :>
[02:39] <PatrickWolf> By the way, is there a non-web version of this chat? Maybe in a client per say?
[02:39] <baja> install
[02:39] <nicomachus> PatrickWolf: lots of clients.
[02:39] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: yeah get something like hexchat
[02:39] <Ionic> so, try: which awk and then  "update-initramfs -u -k all"
[02:39] <baja> reinstall
[02:39] <nicomachus> Ionic: what is 'which'?
[02:40] <baja> sudo apt-get install skype
[02:40] <baja> E: Unable to locate package skype
[02:40] <Ionic> nicomachus: a command (shell builtin mostly)
[02:40] <nicomachus> no salami.
[02:40] <Ionic> should givey ou the path to awk
[02:40] <Ionic> well then, no awk!
[02:40] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859176/
[02:40] <nicomachus> nah it said /usr/bin/awk
[02:41] <Ionic> ah
[02:41] <PatrickWolf> daftykins: is there a terminal command for this, or just through the website?
[02:41] <nicomachus> update initramfs
[02:41] <Ionic> and can you execute that?
[02:41] <nicomachus> PatrickWolf: sudo apt-get install hexchat
[02:41] <Ionic> update-initramfs didn't work? or spew awk errors again?
[02:41] <PatrickWolf> thanks nicomachus
[02:41] <nicomachus> it worked just fine, Ionic
[02:41] <daftykins> !info hexchat vivid
[02:41] <baja> E: Unable to locate package skype
[02:42] <nicomachus> baja: we heard you the first 7 times. one sec.
[02:42] <daftykins> PatrickWolf: sudo apt-get install hexchat
[02:42] <Ionic> nicomachus: how big are the initramfs files now?
[02:42] <baja> sorry felt ignored
[02:42] <daftykins> nmatrix9: it definitely generated the nvidia module for your running -57 kernel, should be ok
[02:43] <patrickwolf> there we go
[02:43] <nmatrix9> daftykins, Iam gonna reboot now, wish me luck.  If you don't see me in the next 5 minutes call the calvary.
[02:43] <nicomachus> Ionic: paste.ubuntu.com/11859187
[02:43] <teaearlgraycold> Is there a good way I can install Linux on my HDD and still boot Windows off of my SSD?
[02:43] <nicomachus> !info skype | baja
[02:43] <Ionic> nicomachus: holy mothra
[02:43] <nicomachus> heh, oh.
[02:43] <patrickwolf> I'm currently running linux on my SSD and windows off a 10k RPM HDD :D
[02:43] <Ionic> well, that looks somewhat better
[02:44] <bubbasaures> baja, Go to software & sources and tick on skype repo if you see it 2nd tab, purging will turn the repo off I believe.
[02:44] <teaearlgraycold> Like if I set up the MBR on my HDD for Linux on a partition I won't have issues, right?
[02:44] <bubbasaures> baja, If you had used skypes dowwnload at one time.
[02:44] <baja> yes
[02:44] <nicomachus> baja: or follow these instructions: http://www.ubuntu4u.com/howtos/how-to-install-skype-43-on-ubuntu-1204-or-ubuntu-1404
[02:45] <nicomachus> I'd suggest option 2, personally.
[02:45] <bubbasaures> baja, We would say use the repos.
[02:45] <Ionic> nicomachus: still looks odd that -54 has an 5MB initrd and -55 an 19MB one, but uhm yeah...
[02:45] <bubbasaures> unbuntu repos*
[02:45] <lainpad> anyone know how to get irc notifications on gnome?
[02:45] <nicomachus> bubbasaures: that's what option 2 is on the link I provided. :)
[02:45] <Ionic> nicomachus: you could also try update-initramfs -u -k all again, just for fun
[02:45] <lainpad> so the notifications actually pop up
[02:46] <nicomachus> Ionic: i'm guessing there's no checksum for it... lol
[02:46] <nicomachus> that would be too easy.
[02:46] <Ionic> (that updates initramfs'. should be basically a nop now though)
[02:46] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Yes I figured as so.
[02:46] <Ionic> well this stuff is autogenerated
[02:46] <nicomachus> :)
[02:46] <Ionic> how does a checksum help?
[02:46] <Ionic> even worse
[02:46] <nicomachus> just to make sure it's all there. idk.
[02:46] <Ionic> due to it being compressed, the checksum will always differ anyway for specific compression algorithms like gzip
[02:47] <Ionic> (because they include a timestamp in their headers)
[02:47] <nicomachus> I'm gonna purge -55 once I get -54 working, so I'm not concerned about the size of -55
[02:47] <Ionic> nicomachus: I'm concerned that -54 doesn't include all modules for some reason
[02:47] <Ionic> 19 MB sounds reasonable for an initramfs containing all shit humankind could think of
[02:48] <nicomachus> as am I.. but how can we check?
[02:48] <Ionic> my initrd is only 4.1 MB because I have hand-configured my kernel and only includes drivers that are needed for my machine
[02:48] <daftykins> can also confirm my server VM has a -rw-r--r--  1 root root  19M Jul  7 11:36 initrd.img-3.13.0-57-generic
[02:48] <Ionic> not compiling any of the billion other drivers (especially in the multimedia section)
[02:48] <nicomachus> daftykins: guessing you don't have anything on -54 still?
[02:48] <daftykins> 'fraid not
[02:49] <daftykins> i relentlessy murder earlier kernels
[02:49] <daftykins> no harm in me installing it and seeing the size it generates though
[02:49] <daftykins> oh hey
[02:49] <nicomachus> you animal
[02:49] <Ionic> nicomachus: the only winning move is not to play
[02:49] <daftykins> it could be smaller because you don't have the -extras- for that kernel?
[02:49] <Ionic> nicomachus: I mean, the only way to find out is to try
[02:49] <daftykins> Ionic: wutcha think? ^
[02:49] <Ionic> daftykins: dunno what -extras- are in ubuntu-world, sorry
[02:50] <daftykins> a package with drivers
[02:50] <Ionic> (I'm a Gentoo user)
[02:50] <daftykins> it accompanies every kernel package
[02:50] <nicomachus> pffft. drivers. who needs em?
[02:50] <Ionic> if -extras includes a lot of drivers, especially multimedia stuff, then yes, sounds reasonable
[02:50] <daftykins> nicomachus: in your chroot, can you compare "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" ? is -54 the only one without an -extras- ?
[02:51] <Ionic> nicomachus: a member of your family needs them
[02:51] <nicomachus> well this is strange.
[02:51] <Ionic> (this channel doesn't allow swearing or distasteful jokes, right?)
[02:51] <daftykins> i'm afraid that's correct
[02:51] <daftykins> family friendly fun is the goal
[02:52] <nicomachus> paste.ubuntu.com/11859217
[02:52] <nicomachus> where'd -32 come from?
[02:52] <daftykins> rc = removed configured
[02:53] <daftykins> just a historic one
[02:53] <nicomachus> ah
[02:53] <daftykins> in fact your extras is rc too!
[02:53] <Ionic> ah, interesting
[02:53] <daftykins> \o/
[02:53] <Ionic> daftykins: was right
[02:53] <daftykins> i think i'm onto something
[02:53] <nicomachus> so the -54 extras were removed?
[02:53] <daftykins> one sec lemme find you that package
[02:53] <Ionic> but -extras isn't needed for a system booting up
[02:53] <Chacal> Pt-Br ?
[02:53] <Ionic> apt-get install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-54-generic
[02:53] <Ionic> then update-initramfs -u -k all
[02:53] <nicomachus> if apt-get cooperates.
[02:53] <Ionic> and the initramfs should blow up
[02:53] <daftykins> nicomachus: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-54-generic_3.13.0-54.91_amd64.deb
[02:54] <Ionic> like... a member... of the kernel
[02:54] <Ionic> daftykins: it will
[02:54] <daftykins> oh assuming you can't do it the normal way
[02:54] <nicomachus> yep... apt-get still turning up it's nose at me.
[02:54] <daftykins> d'aww
[02:54] <Ionic> huh? why?
[02:54] <Ionic> your DB broken?
[02:54] <nicomachus> Ionic: no idea. don't care to figure it out. it's only inside the chroot.
[02:54] <daftykins> you will have lost the resolv.conf again this time i suspect
[02:54] <nicomachus> ahhh probably
[02:55] <Ionic> ah
[02:55] <Ionic> just copy it from outside the chroot
[02:55] <nicomachus> that's the plan
[02:55] <Ionic> that's what...
[02:56] <Ionic> I just can't be "family friendly" :/
[02:56] <patrickwolf> So I have a question, how do I get it so that I can see the dual-boot option for windows and ubuntu when booting my computer?
[02:56] <daftykins> patrickwolf: how did you install both?
[02:57] <daftykins> it should have worked auto if you put ubuntu on after Windows
[02:57] <patrickwolf> Two separate drives
[02:57] <patrickwolf> I did.
[02:57] <daftykins> hrmm.
[02:57] <daftykins> is your system EFI capable?
[02:57] <daftykins> which Windows is it?
[02:57] <patrickwolf> Windows 10
[02:57] <patrickwolf> :D
[02:59] <daftykins> so, EFI installed or nay?
[02:59] <patrickwolf> And when checking the boot order a minute ago, it says UEFI and Legacy
[02:59] <nicomachus> :|
[02:59] <nicomachus> paste.ubuntu.com/11859233
[03:00] <patrickwolf> So yes, EFI is there I do believe
[03:00] <Ionic> nicomachus: yeah, not surprising
[03:00] <Ionic> nicomachus: bad memory and stuff.
[03:00] <Ionic> try again...
[03:00] <nicomachus> yea, well... I'm still upset. lol
[03:00] <daftykins> patrickwolf: mmm no you need to confirm whether you installed 10 in EFI
[03:01] <Ionic> (do you begin to understand why I say to fix this stuff without investing time RIGHT NOW?)
[03:01] <patrickwolf> To be honest I have no idea, I just installed windows 8.1 a while ago through a disk, just installed it normally, and then ran the windows 10 upgrade
[03:01] <nicomachus> well, send me $200 for new equipment and I'll get right on that. :)
[03:02] <daftykins> patrickwolf: if you google you can find ways to confirm which mode Windows was installed in
[03:02] <Ionic> sorry, don't have any employment opportunity for you
[03:02] <daftykins> nicomachus: i must admit, wonky RAM will make any install, copy or most general operations troublesome
[03:02] <daftykins> makes life pretty tough
[03:03] <nicomachus> daftykins: I replaced the RAM once already, so it's GOTTA be the slots. but rent comes before mobos.
[03:03] <daftykins> nicomachus: technically though, Linux being a file orientated OS - you could transplant your disk into another system, fix it up there, then transplant back and it might be ok
[03:03] <daftykins> you tried running memtest to confirm?
[03:03] <Ionic> daftykins: especially decompression (computing)
[03:03] <nicomachus> not lately. I did on the old RAM, got TONS of errors, which is why I replaced it. I don't think I've run it on the new ram though.
[03:04] <daftykins> ah har
[03:04] <daftykins> when i get a system in acting funny, if i memtest it and get a single error i don't trust it until i resolve that
[03:04] <nicomachus> lol. I had 1,000+ by pass 7 on the old RAM.
[03:05] <nicomachus> yea.
[03:05] <nicomachus> and it's DDR2. :/
[03:05] <nicomachus> hey, grub is back to purple now... :)
[03:05] <daftykins> :O
[03:06] <nicomachus> bah. kernel panic.
[03:06] <daftykins> i'm still running 2 as well
[03:06] <nicomachus> trying again.
[03:06] <cfhowlett> EFI grub should be black ... or so I understand it
[03:06] <daftykins> 2007 build PC this
[03:06] <cfhowlett> 2007?  no efi then.
[03:06] <nicomachus> daftykins: I grabbed this one from a thrift store.
[03:06] <nicomachus> it had a pentium 2, I upgraded to a Core2Duo.
[03:07] <daftykins> cfhowlett: sorry i meant mine not his, but yeah
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | nicomachus,   lubuntu is optimized for older hardware.  might want to give it a try
[03:07] <nicomachus> Took out the geforce 8400 and put in a radeon 6450. then a new 1TB HDD
[03:07] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: been there. really wasn't any better for stability
[03:07] <nicomachus> BOOT!
[03:07] <nicomachus> YESSSSSSSSS
[03:08] <nicomachus> see? the old girl still works sometimes. ;)
[03:08] <nicomachus> just takes a little TLC
[03:08] <daftykins> XD
[03:08] <Ionic> nicomachus: if I were you, Iw wouldn't use that box really
[03:08] <daftykins> -54 is a winner?
[03:08] <nicomachus> ....and lots of your guys' time.
[03:08] <Ionic> unless you want to reinstall anyway
[03:09] <nicomachus> yea, -54 worked. always did, I was just stupid and allowed autoremove to remove it. now I'm going to actually take the time to set it default and disable further upgrade.
[03:09] <daftykins> Ionic: ^5 for the teamwork
[03:09] <nicomachus> Ionic: I use it 95% for netflix and listening to music. It's hooked up to my living room TV. I have a very reliable laptop. ish.
[03:09] <Ionic> daftykins: I've debugged boot issues on power (ppc64), I'm not easily shaken...
[03:10] <daftykins> hah
[03:10] <daftykins> PPC can go live in the e-waste recycling center it deserves *whistle*
[03:10] <Ionic> (no, these machines don't use BIOS or EFI. they use openfirmware)
[03:10] <nicomachus> Last issue I had with this, before the crypt_luks fiasco, was grub.config trying to boot 3.19 when 3.13 was still installed.
[03:10] <Ionic> daftykins: big iron. machines sold by IBM.
[03:10] <nicomachus> THAT was fun. EriC^^ helped me out with taht.
[03:11] <nicomachus> s/taht/that
[03:11] <Ionic> stupid question, but what is a good temperature for HDD's?
[03:11] <daftykins> nmatrix9: the cavalry are searching...
[03:11] <nicomachus> Mine usually sit about 100 F, Ionic
[03:11] <daftykins> Ionic: less than 40 deg C
[03:11] <Ionic> last time they reached 55°C, a SMART error was thrown
[03:11] <nicomachus> 0_0
[03:11] <daftykins> ideally less than 35 deg C minimum
[03:11] <nmatrix9> daftykins, CALL THEM OFF! CALL THEM OFF!
[03:12] <daftykins> nmatrix9: XD
[03:12] <Ionic> currently most of them are at 38°C, but one is at 42°C
[03:12]  * daftykins talks on the radio
[03:12] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I am ok!, Iam ok!
[03:12] <daftykins> \o/
[03:12] <daftykins> nmatrix9: nvidia happy?
[03:12] <Ionic> hmmm
[03:12] <Ionic> I really need to put a few more fans up
[03:12] <machr_> After some tweaking, Ubuntu runs great on rMBP (13"). I really enjoy it. PLaying around in different DE's.
[03:12] <nmatrix9> daftykins, Yeah Iam happy too.  Thanks for asking.
[03:13] <daftykins> :D
[03:13] <daftykins> right i must depart, sleep time here
[03:13] <daftykins> later all \o
[03:13] <nmatrix9> Night daftykins
[03:13] <nicomachus> night daftykins. Thanks again.
[03:13] <nmatrix9> Thank you.
[03:13] <gr33dy1> creative ways to install ubuntu with no flash drive or cd?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !install | gr33dy1
[03:13] <nicomachus> gr33dy1: DriveDroid. :)
[03:13] <cfhowlett> gr33dy1, pxe would be one method
[03:14] <andy_mahurin> bye
[03:14] <gr33dy1> are those all noob friendly? :)
[03:14] <nicomachus> eh...
[03:15] <Ionic> gr33dy1: netbooting, PXE
[03:15] <cfhowlett> gr33dy1, read.  read again.  proceed carefully.  and, of course, before you do ANYTHING, back up critical info first.
[03:15] <Ionic> well, not noob-friendly...
[03:15] <Ionic> why no flash drives?
[03:16] <gr33dy1> had a lot of stuff stolen and no need as of yet, think im just gonna run to the store lol
[03:16] <nicomachus> best option. lol
[03:22] <Bashing-om> gr33dy1: If you have 'buntu installed, and are a bit handy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD .
[03:25] <DylannStormRoof> We at Chimpmania Forum applaud the heroic actions of Dylann Storm Roof and are now in the process of promoting Emanuel AME Church as a tourist destination for niggerhaters to go in and pray and worship at the expense of the feral negroid beast!   That church is NOW our symbol and our landmark.  Join us today! http://www.chimpmania.com/forum
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !ops | DylannStormRoof,
[03:25] <nicomachus> oh boy.
[03:29] <Ionic> if it was at least funny
[03:29] <Ionic> oatmeal-type funny, you know
[03:29] <Ionic> jibbers and everything
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !guidelines   says no
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !guidelines   | says no
[03:30] <Ionic> cfhowlett: well, racism isn't even funny.
[03:32] <littlebit2015> Hi
[03:32] <littlebit2015> Anyone know how to get voice on channels like #vim?
[03:33] <nicomachus> Ionic: talking about the spammer?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> littlebit2015, some channels require you register
[03:33] <littlebit2015> I thought I did register =-(
[03:33] <littlebit2015> Thanks though
[03:40] <amicrawler> need help
[03:40] <lainpad> good luck
[03:40] <amicrawler> just install a new wireless card
[03:40] <amicrawler> how do i get it to start up on boot
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !wireless | amicrawler
[03:41] <amicrawler> i installed it all ready
[03:42] <amicrawler> when i reboot i have to make and make install then modprobe it
[03:42] <amicrawler> can any body help me ?
[03:44] <OerHeks> amicrawler, not without more info, what wificard exactly, and what driver did you need to compile/make?
[03:45] <amicrawler> 8812au
[03:45] <amicrawler> for the netgear ac600
[03:47] <nicomachus> is this channel publicly logged?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> it is
[03:47] <nicomachus> link?
[03:47]  * manjaro 
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !logs | nicomachus
[03:48] <zero> nick hide4
[03:49] <cfhowlett> !nick | hide4
[03:49] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: the logs a bit behind, isn't it?
[03:50] <hide4> is there a way to install the exploit tools from backtrack into ubuntu in one fell swoop
[03:50] <OerHeks> hide4, backtrack is dead
[03:50] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, yeah looks like about 1 hour lag.
[03:50] <hide4> i mean kali
[03:51] <OerHeks> !kali
[03:51] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: oh well. sent a pastebin link. GoDaddy takes down any site under them that spams :)
[03:51] <cfhowlett> hide4, mixing distros is a bad idea and will break things.  choose: kali or ubuntu.
[03:51] <amicrawler> do i need to link the fille some ware
[03:51] <OerHeks> hide4, we do not support kali, try #kali-linux
[03:51] <hide4> alright well thanks for the help
[03:54] <amicrawler> do i need ndswrapper
[03:55] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: not if the driver is available in linux
[03:56] <amicrawler> i did
[03:56] <amicrawler> it is working
[03:56] <amicrawler> just not when i boot
[03:56] <kalx> hi all. Is there a reason that 'apt-get uninstall ssmtp' triggers an install of postfix?
[03:56] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: ndiswrapper is only used when a windows driver is the only functioning option
[03:56] <amicrawler> i c
[03:56] <aeon-ltd> kalx: dependencies?
[03:56] <amicrawler> i did it from src
[03:56] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: did you follow a guide?
[03:57] <amicrawler> do i need to link it
[03:57] <amicrawler> if so how to
[03:57] <amicrawler> yes
[03:57] <tony__> what is the topic of discussion?
[03:57] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: just copy and paste the link; is there a part about how to make it permanent? did you skip a step?
[03:58] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: if the process doesn't require the use of sudo you could create a script to run at boot that will issue those commands to make the wifi work; yes it's a bit hack-y but if it's easiest current option i suggest it
[03:58] <amicrawler> i used this form http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240631
[03:59] <amicrawler> no did not skip any steps that i know of
[03:59] <kalx> amicrawler: hmm, i see. The apt-get doesn't mention anything about dependencies/why so was wondering about it (and why postfix is specifically picked over any other mta)
[04:00] <amicrawler> so what do i
[04:00] <amicrawler> to fix this issue
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: add to modules, i found it. 'echo 8812au >> /etc/modules'
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: is 8812au the name of the module you use?
[04:01] <amicrawler> yes that is it
[04:02] <aeon-ltd> kalx: i was just guessing
[04:02] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: run the echo command and tell me if works, reboot if you can
[04:02] <joao> hi everyone. Im using lubuntu and i want to know wich driver is working(proprietary or noveau). How can i do that?
[04:03] <joao> Anyone to give me a hand?
[04:03] <amicrawler> permission denided
[04:03] <amicrawler> from sudo
[04:03] <aeon-ltd> joao: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271613/am-i-using-the-nouveau-driver-or-the-proprietary-nvidia-driver
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: use sudo
[04:04] <joao> ok im gonna check
[04:05] <amicrawler> now what ?
[04:05] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: did it go through? the command
[04:06] <amicrawler> i did
[04:06] <amicrawler> sudo and sudo -s
[04:06] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: well reboot to tets
[04:06] <aeon-ltd> *test
[04:08] <amicrawler> what is said /bin/bash: echo 8812au >> /etc/modules: No such file or directory
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> damn
[04:08] <bodhi_zazen> joao, lshw -c video
[04:08] <bodhi_zazen> driver= ...
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> !modules
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: check manually, you have no file called modules in /etc/ ?
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> Did the way modules are handled change recently in ubuntu?
[04:11] <amicrawler> yes
[04:12] <OerHeks> should work, sudo echo 8812au >> /etc/modules
[04:12] <amicrawler> trying to use software & update
[04:12] <amicrawler> but does not see it
[04:13] <joao> aeon-ltd and bodhi_zazen thank you! I think im using the proprietary driver.
[04:14] <amicrawler> what it said bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
[04:14] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: sudo echo 8812au >> /etc/modules
[04:14] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: do that
[04:14] <amicrawler> same thing
[04:15] <bodhi_zazen> aeon-ltd, that will not work, can not re-direct with sudo
[04:15] <bodhi_zazen> use tee
[04:15] <aeon-ltd> just manually edit it
[04:15] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[04:15] <bodhi_zazen> aeon-ltd, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/20578/redirect-the-output-using-sudo
[04:16] <aeon-ltd> bodhi_zazen: thank you
[04:19] <OerHeks> bodhi_zazen, or should a drivername have " "  like:   echo "8812au" >> /etc/modules                ??
[04:20] <bodhi_zazen> OerHeks, will not work with sudo
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> is this correct syntax? echo 8812au | sudo tee /etc/modules ?
[04:20] <bodhi_zazen> aeon-ltd, yes, add a -a
[04:20] <bodhi_zazen> echo 8812au | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:21] <bodhi_zazen> -a == append
[04:21] <amicrawler> its not blacklist
[04:21] <aeon-ltd> ok
[04:21] <bodhi_zazen> there are other work arounds
[04:21] <aeon-ltd> amicrawler: see bodhi_zazen's post, a single command to solve your problem
[04:22] <amicrawler> where is the post
[04:22] <bodhi_zazen> echo 8812au | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:23] <amicrawler> that worked
[04:23] <amicrawler> now reboot
[04:23] <aeon-ltd> ok
[04:23] <OerHeks> :-)
[04:24] <OerHeks> Thank you, bodhi_zazen, learned something today
[04:24] <bodhi_zazen> OerHeks, no problem
[04:47] <quizme> hi, i'm having trouble with my apt-get, i think it needs some spring cleaning
[04:47] <quizme> http://pastebin.com/BJcceEPE
[04:48] <quizme> what should i do :~(
[04:48] <OerHeks> quizme, did you run update & upgrade first?
[04:49] <darkelfjuggalo> ok so a few minutes ago, my Desktop computer with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS froze and went to a black screen, the black screen had the following print out http://pastebin.com/7x7jkZ3r
[04:49] <quizme> DerHeks i'll try
[04:49] <quizme> darkelfjuggalo it's probbable due to a stray cosmic ray
[04:50] <darkelfjuggalo> can i get a serious answer as to what the printout means, and how to prevent the issue in the future
[04:51] <quizme> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/YRX05eUb
[04:52] <bodhi_zazen> quizme, it is a warning, the ppa is not working
[04:52] <bodhi_zazen> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/djcj/vlc-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[04:54] <quizme> bodhi_zazen should I take that one out ?
[04:54] <bodhi_zazen> or find a replacement
[04:55] <bodhi_zazen> if you "need" that package, vlc is in the standard repos
[04:55] <tj_545455> hello everyone
[04:56] <tj_545455> i have a file that I created called test.py but when i do chmod +x test.py in that dir, and check it again with ps, it is sill not executable. any ideas why it will not save the file permissions as executable?
[04:56] <tj_545455> i can edit the file but any attempts to change the executable bit vis chmod or via the file manager (thunar) does not change it
[04:57] <histo> darkelfjuggalo: what were you doing at the time
[04:57] <histo> tj_545455: what does it show for permissions if you ls -l test.py
[04:57] <quizme> bodhi_zazen  which line should i remove?  http://pastebin.com/8MJVEcPc
[04:58] <tj_545455> -rw------- 1 xubuntu xubuntu    0 Jul 11 04:46 test
[04:58] <darkelfjuggalo> PLaying a game on Facebook through the Google Chrome Browser... i do this often about this time and i have never had this happen before
[04:58] <histo> tj_545455: are you user xubuntu?
[04:58] <tj_545455> (test, not test.py)
[04:58] <tj_545455> yes
[04:58] <histo> tj_545455: chmod u+x test
[04:58] <histo> tj_545455: any errors?
[04:58]  * SteamBlade waves
[04:59] <tj_545455> histo: no errors but it still remains exactly the same
[04:59] <histo> tj_545455: chmod 755 test
[05:00] <tj_545455> histo: same thing..
[05:00] <histo> tj_545455: stat test
[05:00] <histo> !paste | tj_545455
[05:01] <bodhi_zazen> quizme,  http://ppa.launchpad.net/djcj/vlc-stable ... vlc-stable line
[05:01] <quizme> bodhi_zazen there is no "vlc" in the file... i did a search
[05:01] <histo> tj_545455: is the file on a mount of some kind?
[05:02] <tj_545455> histo: stat test results are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11859458/ and yes, it is a mounted ntfs partition
[05:02] <bodhi_zazen> look in the subdirectory
[05:02] <histo> tj_545455: what are the mount options?  noexec
[05:03] <bodhi_zazen>  /etc/apt/sources.d or some such
[05:03] <tj_545455> histo: mount | grep /data gives me this:  /dev/sda2 on /media/xubuntu/data type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[05:04] <histo> tj_545455: mode is set by mount options for ntfs
[05:05] <bodhi_zazen> tj_545455, ntfs partitions do not (directly) support permissions
[05:05] <bodhi_zazen> so put your file on a ext4 partition or in say ~/bin
[05:06] <histo> tj_545455: here's some different ways of doing it
[05:06] <histo> tj_545455: or just bash test
[05:06] <tj_545455> histo: yes it works just fine on ext4
[05:07] <tj_545455> histo: there is no reason i need to have this on an NTFS i can just format to ext4. .  i think i can call this resolved.
[05:07] <tj_545455> thank you very much.
[05:07] <tj_545455> histo: thank you.
[05:08] <histo> k
[05:10] <quizme> bodhi_zazen thanks man you saved me
[05:12] <bodhi_zazen> quizme, you are most welcome
[05:18] <wbluffy>  
[05:19] <tj_545455> bodhi_zazen: thanks to you too. it works ok on ext4. thanks
[05:28] <hama> hi
[05:29] <hama> hello
[05:34] <charlesW> I am having an issue with a new Belkin USB wireless network device. The device model is: F9L1101v2. It is a N600 DB Wireless Dual-Band USB Adapter. I plug it in and lsusb shows it there, but I can't connect with it. Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
[05:34] <gr33dy1> ok im having trouble making a usb disk apparently
[05:35] <gr33dy1> i get the error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[05:35] <gr33dy1> when trying to liveboot or install
[05:36] <moobase> hi. When I edit files with gedit, some temporary "bacup" file is created. What causes that? Is it gedit or some global system setting?
[05:36] <SteamBlade> gr33dy1, how are you making the usb ?
[05:36] <gr33dy1> with the download from pendrivelinux.com
[05:37] <gr33dy1> universal usb creator 1.9.6.1
[05:37] <gr33dy1> universal usb installer***
[05:37] <SteamBlade> double check your selecting the correct distro from the dropdown?
[05:38] <SteamBlade> also what brand of flashdrive are you using?
[05:38] <gr33dy1> definitely am
[05:39] <gr33dy1> im using sandisk ultra usb 3.0 flash drive
[05:42] <SteamBlade> seems it has some trouble having to do with the u3 launchpad and sandisk flashdrives
[05:43] <gr33dy1> well i saw that too but i don't believe i have the u3 launchpad, i don't think they discontinued that
[05:43] <gr33dy1> would i be better off maybe trying another distro ? i already have fedora downloaded
[05:45] <SteamBlade> id honestly try another flashdrive, but also make sure you dont have a corrupted iso, that has happened to me
[05:45] <gr33dy1> how can i make sure my iso isn't corrupted ?
[05:45] <gr33dy1> another flashdrive would mean another trip to store and it's midnight so I'm trying to avoid that
[05:46] <penguinperson> gr33dy1, why whould your iso be corrupted?
[05:46] <gr33dy1> steamblade suggested that, i'm not sure that it is
[05:47] <penguinperson> You could check the md5/sha sum
[05:47] <gr33dy1> im having issues making a usb installer
[05:47] <penguinperson> I could help..
[05:47] <john__> I have a problem my youtube it freezes my hole pc. I use Lubuntu can somebody help me?
[05:47] <penguinperson> What is the issues?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> john__: did you install lubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[05:48] <john__> It plays for 5 to 10 minutes and then freezes I have to restart
[05:48] <john__> yes I did
[05:48] <gr33dy1> when i try to install i get an error message it says "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[05:48] <penguinperson> Hmm..
[05:49] <penguinperson> What are you using to create your usb installer?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> john__: you have this on chromium-browser?
[05:49] <gr33dy1> universal usb installer 1.9.6.1
[05:49] <john__> No just simple firefox
[05:49] <penguinperson> That could be the problem
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> john__: try chromium
[05:49] <gr33dy1> ok do u have any suggestions ?
[05:50] <charlesW> I am having an issue with a new Belkin USB wireless network device. The device model is: F9L1101v2. It is a N600 DB Wireless Dual-Band USB Adapter. I plug it in and lsusb shows it there, but I can't connect with it. Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
[05:50] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: yes holdon
[05:50] <john__> why is FF the problem it always worked before
[05:50] <penguinperson> I cant remember the name
[05:50] <SteamBlade> im interested to hear this, ive always used UUI
[05:50] <penguinperson> gr33dy: Its called startup disk creator
[05:51] <penguinperson> gr33dy: Have you tried using that tool to create your usb?
[05:51] <gr33dy1> no, do u have a link ?
[05:51] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: What distro are you using?
[05:52] <gr33dy1> 14.04.2
[05:53] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: Try typing startup disk creator in your unity dash.
[05:53] <syntroPi> how would i (re)enable webgl support in chromium? some updates seem to have broke it..!
[05:53] <gr33dy1> oh , right now im on windoze 8
[05:54] <penguinperson> gr33dy1, i can help with that too
[05:54] <quizme> i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, tried to install something and now i'm getting E: Unable to correct problems, you have held borken packages
[05:55] <penguinperson> gr33dy: Download this application: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/downloads/?stable
[05:55] <syntroPi> quizme, you might try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:56] <john__> Ok I didn't have installed the lubuntu-restricted-extras sorry thought I did... does that solve the problem evantually?
[05:57] <gr33dy1> ok it's making the key now
[05:57] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: Great. it shouldn't have any boot issues
[05:59] <EmptySpace> #bitcoin-otc
[06:00]  * EmptySpace adds a /j :)
[06:03] <quizme> http://pastebin.com/pjTCGkMi
[06:04] <quizme> libopencv-dev : Depends: libopencv-objdetect-dev (= 2.4.8+dfsg1-2ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:04] <quizme> why is it refusing to be installed ?
[06:05] <atesec> did you tell it to be installed?
[06:05] <quizme> atesec yes
[06:05] <atesec> sudo apt-get install libopencv-objdetect-dev
[06:05] <atesec> what does that say
[06:05] <gr33dy1> does anyone know about the reputation of tuxfamily.org software? it looks to be a free host, should i be worried ?
[06:06] <gr33dy1> i downloaded lili from it
[06:06] <quizme> atesec http://pastebin.com/fUDMVE9x
[06:06] <penguinperson> gr33dy: you didn't download it from the official site?
[06:06] <penguinperson> gr33dy: and did your usb work?
[06:06] <atesec> sudo apt-get install libopencv-highgui-dev
[06:06] <atesec> what's that say
[06:06] <gr33dy1> no i downloaded it from the link u gave me?
[06:07] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: the link was official
[06:07] <gr33dy1> and it said it did so here i go ill be back im gonna try it then
[06:07] <SteamBlade> gl
[06:07] <gr33dy1> idk about it being official though
[06:07] <gr33dy1> because there is a linuxliveusb.com
[06:08] <gr33dy1> and i got mine from tuxfamily.org ?
[06:08] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/downloads/?stable is the official site, it might have downloaded it from a mirror server.
[06:09] <atesec> quizme, does sudo apt-get install libopencv-highgui-dev work?  if not, then you may try using aptitude to install it instead, as usually when these kind of problems occur, aptitude will point out a solution
[06:09] <atesec> you could also try apt-mark showhold
[06:09] <atesec> to show held packages
[06:09] <atesec> and then sudo apt-mark unhold <held package name>
[06:09] <atesec> im gonna go to bed, PM me if you need
[06:10] <atesec> good night all
[06:12] <gr33dy1> idk im worried about the link, because everytime i click yours it goes to tuxfamily.org
[06:12] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: strange it should do that.
[06:13] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: correction no its fine
[06:13] <gr33dy1> but when i went to the site that your link says that it is, i get my download straight from the site
[06:14] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: Yes, I right clicked the download button and clicked copy link and gave it to you, thats why its directly downloading it from a server that they store the files on.
[06:20] <GitGud> hello
[06:20] <GitGud> i'm learning linux
[06:20] <ObrienDave> Appropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome
[06:20] <gr33dy1> here goes nothing hopefully you didn't backdoor me
[06:21] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: why would i backdoor you?
[06:21] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: i dont have control of lili's servers lol
[06:21] <GitGud> thank you ObrienDave
[06:22] <gr33dy1> i don't know, it just seems odd that your link directs differently, than when i go to the official site myself
[06:22] <gr33dy1> ill be back
[06:33] <gr33dy1> u there penguin ?
[06:33] <gr33dy1> penguinperson, i got the same error
[06:35] <SteamBlade> where did you get the iso from?
[06:35] <gr33dy1> ubuntu
[06:35] <gr33dy1> i believe but it's been awhile lemme check
[06:36] <gr33dy1> oh i actually got it from uoregon.edu
[06:37] <gr33dy1> but i believe i went to the official site
[06:37] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: could you explain what type of usb you have?
[06:37] <gr33dy1> sandisk ultra usb 3.0
[06:37] <penguinperson> I would suggest redownloading the ubuntu image
[06:38] <gr33dy1> ok i've got it in progress now
[06:38] <penguinperson> you might also want to look at your usb in the disk manager
[06:38] <gr33dy1> look at it for ?
[06:38] <penguinperson> if the partitions are correct
[06:39] <penguinperson> and there are no formatting errors
[06:40] <gr33dy1> fat 32, it says healthy
[06:40] <gr33dy1> there is 11 mb unallocated
[06:41] <SteamBlade> is it a 16 Gb?
[06:41] <gr33dy1> 32
[06:42] <SteamBlade> that seems off, you should have nearly 32 gb's available, you may need to delete extra partitions from previous attempts
[06:43] <Haris> hello all
[06:43] <Haris> why is ubuntu/ssh on 14.x not showing the banner I set it to show ?
[06:44] <Haris> ubuntu shows its default out-of-the-box stuff, on shell login, but not the banner I configured sshd with
[06:44] <Haris> o_O
[06:45] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: maybe try reformatting it as ntfs?
[06:47] <SteamBlade> gr33dy1, give this a read, delete all the partitions on the drive, and make a new fat 32 or ntfs http://nlb-creations.com/2013/01/17/removing-partitions-from-a-usb-thumb-drive/
[06:47] <SteamBlade> just be really careful about which drive you do it to
[06:51] <gr33dy1> ok its in progress, although i think you may have misinterpreted the info i gave, it can't hurt anything to be sure
[06:51] <gr33dy1> the new ubuntu download is almost finished
[06:53] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: have you tried downloading things with a download manager
[06:53] <gr33dy1> although you could be right about the partition because i believe it still had a name
[06:54] <ObrienDave> use the torrent, much safer
[06:54] <gr33dy1> like utorrent?
[06:54] <ObrienDave> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[06:54] <Haris> ah well
[06:54] <ObrienDave> any torrent client will do
[06:55] <sparchitect> is it okay to ask a question here that is related to configuring wordpress on my Ubuntu LAMP?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !lamp | sparchitect yes.  you might also want to check with #ubuntu-server
[06:55] <Haris> that did it
[06:56] <gr33dy1> well i've got a ubuntu torrent going on now too
[06:57] <penguinperson> no i meant a http download manager
[06:57] <gr33dy1> oh no, why?
[06:58] <penguinperson> it would let you have multi-threaded downloads which equals faster downloads
[06:58] <gr33dy1> ah i see, which do u use?
[06:58] <penguinperson> on windoze internet download manager (idm)
[06:58] <cfhowlett> torrents for the win.
[06:58] <penguinperson> haha
[06:59] <gr33dy1> im already done torrenting it lmao
[06:59] <gr33dy1> that was stupid fast
[06:59] <ObrienDave> and it will be a good file also ;P
[07:00] <penguinperson> What if the seeds of the torrent infected portions of it??\
[07:00] <gr33dy1> lol i almost want to do it again
[07:00] <penguinperson> so are you going to completely move over to linux?
[07:00] <ObrienDave> penguinperson, that can't happen with the official torrents. md5 would not match. seriously???
[07:01] <penguinperson> oh... I didnt know.
[07:03] <gr33dy1> 40 percent formatted, this is much slower lol so it should be damn clean
[07:05] <gr33dy1> odd, my browsers dont work but i still seem to have acces to irc
[07:06] <penguinperson> whats wrong with them?
[07:06] <gr33dy1> acting like i dont have connection
[07:06] <penguinperson> That shouldn't occur on linux. :/
[07:07] <penguinperson> Oh your on windoze though.
[07:07] <gr33dy1> yeah thats why im making the switch
[07:07] <penguinperson> Finally another one who see's it
[07:07] <penguinperson> Only reason im stuck with windows for now is photoshop.
[07:07] <gr33dy1> but for some reason i can access asdf.com but not google?
[07:07] <penguinperson> hosts file maybe?
[07:07] <gr33dy1> ?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> penguinperson, gimp > photoshop
[07:08] <penguinperson> cfhowlett: please ellaborate...
[07:08] <ObrienDave> gimp +1
[07:08] <penguinperson> I have tried gimp so many times...
[07:08] <zaggynl> gr33dy1: dns issue?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !gimp | penguinperson, www.gimp.org
[07:09] <ObrienDave> oooooo new factoid ;p
[07:09] <gr33dy1> very possible, my roommate likes to switch them all the time, swears the feds spy on him
[07:09] <penguinperson> Mostly I use photoshop for UI design.
[07:09] <penguinperson> gimp doesn't seem to work well with that
[07:09] <cfhowlett> penguinperson, inkscape         perhaps
[07:09] <ObrienDave> a tool is only as good as the person using it
[07:10] <zaggynl> every gov spies on everyone
[07:10] <penguinperson> perhaps...
[07:10] <penguinperson> I have photoshop 7.0 right now in linux but Im trying to figure out how to get cs6 working. Then ill delete windows
[07:11] <penguinperson> If gimp had a way to remap the whole keyboard
[07:11] <gr33dy1> thats true, doesn't stop him though
[07:12] <zaggynl> I'd just set dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf if he keeps messing with the router
[07:12] <gr33dy1> i like the way you think please go on, do i need router admin access for this idea?
[07:15] <zaggynl> no
[07:15] <zaggynl> you set it in ubuntu
[07:15] <ObrienDave> well, TV time *waves*
[07:15] <zaggynl> hmm, editing resolv.conf is a bad idea
[07:15] <zaggynl> try this: http://askubuntu.com/a/457919
[07:15] <gr33dy1> i love it, and will definitely look into it
[07:15] <gr33dy1> well after linux is installed apparently, still no browser access
[07:15] <zaggynl> you're currently on windows?
[07:16] <gr33dy1> yes
[07:16] <zaggynl> you can set static dns there too
[07:16] <zaggynl> win7?
[07:18] <gr33dy1> win8, i found it, mind going to opendns and finding me the numbers?
[07:18] <gr33dy1> thumb drive is now 88 percent formatted :)
[07:18] <zaggynl> 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[07:19] <tripelb> How do I get the dashboard to show in unity? Max sensitivity, on left. Go there rub up and down. Give up. Keystroke get a terminal. Sometime it does open but I can't tell what exactly did it. 14.04
[07:19] <zaggynl> also, which dns servers were set by dhcp?
[07:21] <bubbasaures> tripelb, Try super key.
[07:22] <tripelb> Super alone?
[07:22] <tripelb> bubbasaures: super key alone? Thanks.
[07:22] <bubbasaures> yes
[07:23] <tripelb> End frustration
[07:34] <gr33dy1> ok im back
[07:35] <SteamBlade> results?
[07:35] <gr33dy1> only resolved the internet issue
[07:35] <gr33dy1> drive is now done formatting
[07:36] <gr33dy1> which usb loader program should i use ? and you want me to use the torrent ubuntu right?
[07:36] <SteamBlade> im still a big fan of the UUI and yes use the new iso you've gotten from the torrent
[07:37] <SteamBlade> ive never had a failure using the universal usb installer
[07:37] <gr33dy1> ok
[07:38] <penguinperson> gr33dy1: lili
[07:38] <SteamBlade> also, if you dont need it, dont extend the persistence file, just makes it take longer
[07:38] <gr33dy1> ok slight issue, the torrent "iso" isn't an iso it's a regular folder
[07:39] <sparcy> I'm trying to configure wordpress on my Ubuntu LAMP. My ISP blocks port 80 so I have been messing around with work-arounds and I believe the apache server is setup correctly and serves through port 8080 instead of 80. When I connect to the server from outside the local network(m.y.i.p:8080), it will show the default apache page as it should. However, when I proceed to view the wordpress installation (m.y.i.p:8080/blog), wordpress will r
[07:39] <sparcy> This, of course, causes wordpress to not show up since ISP is blocking port 80. QUESTION: How do I make wordpress stay on port 8080 and not automatically redirect the browser to the default port?
[07:39] <SteamBlade> open it, should be an iso and the sum file
[07:39] <SteamBlade> if i remember right
[07:40] <gr33dy1> no i don't believe it downloaded correctly, i thought it was a little too fast even for a linux torrent
[07:40] <SteamBlade> whats the file size?
[07:41] <gr33dy1> 3.4 mb lol
[07:41] <SteamBlade> oh, nope
[07:41] <SteamBlade> should be just over a gig
[07:42] <SteamBlade> one sec
[07:42] <SteamBlade> running 64 bit ?
[07:43] <SteamBlade> try this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:43] <SteamBlade> or this if 32 bit http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:43] <Guest22922> is the command: `python /vagrant/app.py` in terminal, considered a shell command?
[07:44] <Guest22922> i mean i've created an upstart script, https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/10ec29c6b622d7c585f4c3711851866f74fcfc83/puppet/manifests/start_webserver.pp#L28-L60.
[07:44] <Guest22922> but, line 45 is required, such that i use `exec ... start` within the `script` stanza
[07:44] <Guest22922> and I'm wondering why?
[07:44] <histo> isn't 14.04 using systemd?
[07:45] <Guest22922> not yet, i think 15 is
[07:45] <histo> ahh
[07:47] <Guest22922> is the command: `python /vagrant/app.py` in terminal, considered a shell command, or how is it any different than `ls -l`, or simple commands i type in terminal
[07:47] <Guest22922> bc `exec` is for shell commands
[07:47] <histo> Guest22922: did you write the app.py script?
[07:47] <Guest22922> yea
[07:47] <histo> Guest22922: at the top do you have #!/usr/bin/python ?  and is it executable?
[07:48] <histo> Guest22922: and add vagrant to your path or call it by full path afterwards.
[07:49] <gr33dy1> ok all 994mb are loaded onto the disk, it took up 1.55gb of space on the disk
[07:49] <Guest22922> nested in the series of python includes: some of the python files have shebangs like `#!/usr/bin/python`
[07:50] <Guest22922> hiso, is it required to add vagrant to path?
[07:50] <gr33dy1> ill be back gonna try it out
[07:50] <SteamBlade> cool cool gl
[07:50] <histo> Guest22922: how are you planning on calling app.py?
[07:50] <Guest22922> histo: the service already works.  But, curious why `exec...start` is needed within `script`
[07:52] <histo> Guest22922: for upstart
[07:52] <histo> Guest22922: start stop restart etc...
[07:52] <nico1> hello
[07:53] <nico1> exit
[07:57] <gr33dy1> ok so different error
[07:57] <gr33dy1> i think ntfs was a bad idea, although it did go to the error faster this time
[07:57] <SteamBlade> thats sort of progress lol
[07:58] <gr33dy1> lol right
[07:58] <SteamBlade> well, UUI should be formatting your usb as fat32
[07:58] <gr33dy1> it said something about kernel panic, and unable to locate fs on block or something
[07:58] <gr33dy1> oh well let me see if it did
[07:59] <gr33dy1> nope its most certainly ntfs
[07:59] <SteamBlade> hmmm, yeah, fat 32 it,
[07:59] <nico___> hello from indonesia
[08:00] <SteamBlade> o/
[08:00] <nico___> i am using irssi
[08:00] <SteamBlade> give me a min to start up my other computer so i can see this, so im not just working from memory
[08:01] <gr33dy1> ok
[08:04] <SteamBlade> ok so, format for fat 32, and tell me how much space it has
[08:04] <gr33dy1> 28
[08:05] <gr33dy1> 28.9 actually
[08:05] <SteamBlade> open up a cmd window
[08:05] <gr33dy1> k
[08:05] <gr33dy1> its open
[08:06] <SteamBlade> type diskpart
[08:06] <gr33dy1> done
[08:07] <SteamBlade> type: list disk
[08:07] <gr33dy1> done
[08:07] <SteamBlade> there should be one that has a size close to the 32 gb's
[08:08] <SteamBlade> disk 1 maybe?
[08:08] <gr33dy1> yeah disk 1 says 28
[08:08] <SteamBlade> type: select disk 1
[08:08] <gr33dy1> done
[08:08] <gr33dy1> disk 1 is now the selected disk
[08:09] <SteamBlade> type list partition
[08:10] <gr33dy1> partitiion 1  primary 28gb 1024 kb (under offest)
[08:10] <SteamBlade> ok so your usb doesnt have any extra partitions, thats good to go
[08:11] <SteamBlade> and your UUI is ver. 1.9.6.1?
[08:11] <gr33dy1> so load the iso again since its fat32 ?
[08:11] <gr33dy1> yes
[08:12] <SteamBlade> first, copy/paste the name of the iso here, so i can see exactly what your using
[08:12] <gr33dy1> ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64(2)
[08:13] <gr33dy1> i just realized it said desktop and im on a laptop will that make a difference?
[08:13] <SteamBlade> no its for both
[08:13] <gr33dy1> thought so
[08:13] <SteamBlade> as long as your processor is 64 bit right?
[08:14] <gr33dy1> how do i check ?
[08:14] <gr33dy1> i just assumed because of the specs
[08:14] <SteamBlade> open your file browser, on 'my computer' right click > properties
[08:15] <SteamBlade> tell me what it says for your processor
[08:15] <gr33dy1> 32 bit OS x64 processor
[08:15] <SteamBlade> hmmm. whats your make and model of laptop?
[08:16] <gr33dy1> oh and where it actually says processor its intel core 2 duo cpu p8600 @2.4 2.4
[08:16] <gr33dy1> so i downloaded the wrong iso right?
[08:16] <gr33dy1> i downloaded for amd ?
[08:17] <gr33dy1> it a acer travelmate 5730
[08:17] <l0p3n> I'm using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot to set up a chroot environment. Running xhost + returns the message http://pastebin.com/kT52Gxmt. Any ideas?
[08:17] <SteamBlade> 1 min
[08:20] <SteamBlade> how much ram do you have installed?
[08:21] <histo> gr33dy1: you downloaded 64bit you are fine unless you don't have a lot of rame
[08:21] <histo> s/rame/ram/
[08:22] <histo> gr33dy1: free -m
[08:22] <gr33dy1> 4.gb 2.93 usable
[08:25] <SteamBlade> yeah the 64 bit should be working, try to write it again and give it another go
[08:25] <gr33dy1> ok
[08:26] <gr33dy1> brb
[08:27] <hobbet1> SteamBlade hope you dont mind me interjecting is he trying to run linux in windows???
[08:28] <histo> sounds like he's trying to burn an iso to me
[08:28] <SteamBlade> no, trying to make a live usb from windows 8 for ubuntu 14.04.2
[08:29] <histo> win32 disk imager works rather nice to dd the iso out
[08:29] <SteamBlade> and no prob, i dont know much about linux in general, but ive done about 20 installs and made countless live usb's and im just trying to help him get it to work with the formula thats always worked for me
[08:30] <hobbet1> well you have been teaching me stuff also lol
[08:30] <hobbet1> i wonder why he is running 32 bit os on a system that is 64 bit
[08:31] <SteamBlade> they come that way from the factory sometimes
[08:31] <SteamBlade> certain models, brands, w/e
[08:31] <histo> hobbet1: a lot of manufacturers were doing that when 64bit was first starting to gain in popularity
[08:31] <loicstephan> cc
[08:32] <hobbet1> oh ok cool
[08:34] <hobbet1> well i am sticking around to see how all this comes out lol i will be getting my popcorn lol
[08:35] <SteamBlade> lol me too, if were lucky we wont see him again for some time till he finds xchat in the software center
[08:35] <hobbet1> lol
[08:36] <histo> SteamBlade: what did he end up using to write the iso to the thumb drive? I'm too lazy to scroll back
[08:36] <SteamBlade> UUI universal usb installer, from pendrivelinux.com, the one recommended on the ubuntu site
[08:37] <SteamBlade> its been a solid performer for me, so i told him to use it
[08:38] <gr33dy1> back to the old error :(
[08:39] <SteamBlade> you were selecting ubuntu from the dropdown list on UUI right?
[08:39] <gr33dy1> yes
[08:39] <SteamBlade> same "kernel panic" error?
[08:40] <gr33dy1> no back to the other one
[08:40] <gr33dy1> kernel panic was on the ntfs after the good format
[08:41] <Ben64> kernel panic on ntfs??
[08:41] <ChauffeR> ??
[08:41] <SteamBlade> oh wait, you said windows 8 right?
[08:42] <gr33dy1> my thumbdrive was formatted for ntfs, loaded iso on it and tried to load did a kernel panic error
[08:42] <SteamBlade> did you turn on legacy mode in the BIOS?
[08:42] <gr33dy1> ...
[08:42] <gr33dy1> whats that
[08:42] <Ben64> should not be booting ubuntu from ntfs
[08:42] <SteamBlade> restart and go into you BIOS
[08:42] <SteamBlade> somewhere in there, theres an option for legacy mode, need to activate it
[08:42] <gr33dy1> ive been all through it but i dont believe i saw anything about legacy mode
[08:43] <gr33dy1> explain what it does, maybe its named differently
[08:43] <SteamBlade> was your windows 8 factory installed?
[08:44] <SteamBlade> or an upgrade?
[08:44] <gr33dy1> upgrade and not a very good one, i bought it with it installed, and they didn't even have all the drivers
[08:44] <SteamBlade> watch this, might help https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzyabVjIZik0&ei=KtegVam_JIT9oQS67KPIAg&usg=AFQjCNG9nP_ow9UOALnZbVVBjZ_-HdKm7A&sig2=LykW7GOuqGuHFdsiFFcfeg
[08:45] <SteamBlade> youtube link
[08:45] <histo> gr33dy1: How are you creating the thumb drive?
[08:46] <gr33dy1> universal usb installer 1.9.6.1
[08:46] <histo> gr33dy1: then why are you talking about ntfs?
[08:47] <histo> gr33dy1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[08:47] <gr33dy1> used diskpart to format the drive and specified ntfs, and when uui got done the disk was still ntfs
[08:47] <gr33dy1> brb gonna check bios
[08:48] <histo> gr33dy1: that's not going to help
[08:48] <histo> gr33dy1: just use the tools that ubottu suggests please
[08:50] <SteamBlade> yeah that looks like an older laptop, doubt it would have the UEFI/Legacy option in the bios
[08:51] <baja_> hi people my web browser is malfunctioning. I cant click on the menu bar items
[08:51] <baja_> eg file ....
[08:51] <histo> SteamBlade: the problem is mostlikely the tool he is using to create the usb
[08:52] <histo> baja_: which browser?
[08:52] <baja_> mozilla
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> baja_: did you enable menu bar items?
[08:52] <baja_> it has no minimize and maximize butttons
[08:52] <baja_> how do i do that?
[08:52] <Ben64> so the same problem you came in here with before
[08:52] <histo> baja_: which desktop environment are you in?
[08:52] <SteamBlade> idk how that could be, its what ive always used, used it yesterday on this very computer lol
[08:52] <baja_> studio
[08:53] <baja_> im using ubuntu studio
[08:53] <baja_> 14.04
[08:53] <baja_> trusty
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> baja_: try #ubuntustudio
[08:57] <SteamBlade> i feel like i was on here to do something, but im completely lost in getting gr33dy's install working lol
[08:57] <hobbet1> been there before
[08:58] <histo> SteamBlade: he could be re-inserting the drive and letting windows blow it back out who knows
[08:59] <SteamBlade> lol, just trying to rummage through my head back to when i was first learning how to do this and trying to remember all my own pitfalls
[09:00] <hobbet1> i would probably have him reformate the usb again and try to make sure he is not making it ntfs
[09:01] <histo> format won't matter if he uses proper tools
[09:01] <SteamBlade> he just checked it after he installed the iso to it, it was still fat32
[09:01] <histo> SteamBlade: windows can only see the first partition on the usb
[09:02] <hobbet1> didnt you say he was using the tools that ubuntu recomended SteamBlade
[09:02] <histo> one of it's brilliant "Features"
[09:02] <SteamBlade> i had him use diskpart in the cmd line, which reveals all the partitions
[09:02] <SteamBlade> and yes hobbet1
[09:04] <hobbet1> tell him to come to the dark side completely and erase windows altogether hahahaahah
[09:04] <histo> he should use http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download  or http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
[09:04] <histo> burn the image and reboot and not mess with it any further
[09:05] <histo> SteamBlade: windows is most likely seeing the efi partition if there is one in the iso
[09:05] <SteamBlade> i really dont know what it is, im telling him how to do it in exactly the same way i did it yesterday
[09:06] <SteamBlade> had to de-fuq my computer after spending 3 days trying to get Kali Linux to work
[09:06] <histo> nice
[09:06] <SteamBlade> technically got it to work, just no GUI :/
[09:07] <user015> hello guys. need some help with printer canon i sensys mf 4570 nd
[09:07] <user015> can anyone help?
[09:08] <histo> SteamBlade: nomodeset
[09:08] <histo> !cups | user015
[09:08] <histo> user015: what issue are you having with it?
[09:09] <user015> histo, i send document to print and it does not print
[09:10] <user015> in printer status writing Error and document disapear from queue
[09:10] <histo> user015: did you install a specific driver or did cups have one?
[09:10] <user015> yes
[09:10] <histo> user015: well which is it?
[09:10] <loux> Loux
[09:11] <user015> from official site
[09:11] <user015> http://www.helpdrivers.com/multifunctions/Canon/LaserBase_i-SENSYS_MF_series/i-SENSYS_MF4570dn/
[09:11] <SteamBlade> idk if nomodeset would fix the problem, i wasnt having a display problem, wasnt throwing any errors, just booting into text only
[09:11] <histo> user015: anything in /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[09:11] <histo> SteamBlade: which graphics chipset?
[09:12] <user015> histo, just a minute
[09:12] <SteamBlade> amd radeon HD Graphics
[09:13] <user015> /var/log/cups/error_log E [11/Jul/2015:11:21:28 +0300] Unknown directive SystemGroup on line 16 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.
[09:13] <user015> E [11/Jul/2015:11:47:05 +0300] Unknown directive SystemGroup on line 16 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.
[09:13] <user015> E [11/Jul/2015:11:58:34 +0300] Unknown directive SystemGroup on line 16 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.
[09:13] <user015> E [11/Jul/2015:12:02:48 +0300] Unknown directive SystemGroup on line 16 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.
[09:13] <Gary_943>  can i use same savefile to boot my ubuntu on multiple computers?
[09:14] <Gary_943> say i intall ubuntu on my 32 gb flashdrive and use that same drive to boot ubuntu to multiple computers?
[09:14] <histo> Gary_943: 'savefile'?
[09:14] <histo> Gary_943: yes
[09:14] <Gary_943> is it fine?
[09:14] <Gary_943> i mean using that same flashdrive to boot ubuntu to any pc, u know what i mean
[09:15] <user015> histo, i look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanon. but didnt find printer support ((((
[09:15] <histo> user015: anything else in the log?
[09:15] <histo> user015: cat /var/log/cups/error_log | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:15] <SteamBlade> Gary_943, as long as the processor architecture matches up to the system your installing it on it will be fine
[09:16] <user015> histo, nope
[09:16] <histo> user015: anything in /var/spool/cups  ??
[09:16] <user015> histo, one minute
[09:17] <HypothesisFrog> can I use my ubuntustudio 15.04 install disk to re partition my drive, without losing the data?
[09:18] <SteamBlade> by this time im wondering if gr33dy was successful or he gave up >.>
[09:18] <histo> HypothesisFrog: repartition which part of your drive?
[09:18] <hobbet1> lol SteamBlade
[09:19] <HypothesisFrog> histo well I have a windows partion and a linux partition. Want more space on the linux partition.
[09:19] <user015> histo, in /var/spool/cups are one folder, two files c00001 and c00002
[09:19] <HypothesisFrog> or maybe add an extra partition.
[09:20] <Gary_9431> is it true that ubuntu binds itself to the hardware it was first installed to?
[09:20] <histo> user015: there's your print jobs
[09:21] <histo> user015: localhost:631/printers/  in a browser see what's going on
[09:21] <gr33dy1> ok im back
[09:21] <histo> user015: also doesn't look like cannon provided drivers
[09:21] <gr33dy1> oh canon printer driver issue?
[09:21] <Gary_9431> histo is it ok to use use one ubuntu flashdrive to boot on muliple pcs?
[09:22] <SteamBlade> i take it no success gr33dy1 ?
[09:22] <bekks> Gary_9431: Sure. Thats the whole point :)
[09:22] <gr33dy1> nothing i couldn't find legacy mode...
[09:22] <histo> Gary_9431: yes
[09:23] <gr33dy1> my bios is different from that
[09:23] <gr33dy1> user015: sudo apt-get install cups-backend-bjnp
[09:23] <histo> gr33dy1: try using http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[09:23] <gr33dy1> it will fix your problem i promise
[09:23] <SteamBlade> yeah i was looking, you have a vista age laptop lol
[09:23] <gr33dy1> oh god 2015 and vista still rears her ugly face
[09:24] <bekks> Daemons of the past. :)
[09:24] <rubiksmomo> I'm using Unison to 2-way sync files. Other profiles work fine, but when I let it analyze my videos, it becomes unresponsive. Any ideas how to get my videos synced both ways?
[09:24] <Gary_9431> bekks i see, though i don;t mean ubuntu as live , i mean ubuntu as  permanently installed on a 32 b flashdrive and then using that flashdrive on multiple pcs to boot them, also when booting ubuntu flashdrive on different pc, they would need different drivers and it may affect the overall workin of the operating system?
[09:24] <gr33dy1> ok steam do you think i might have better luck with another distro ?
[09:25] <hobbet1> only 2 more years til vista is dead and gone lol
[09:25] <bekks> Gary_9431: You may need different drivers then.
[09:25] <histo> rubiksmomo: if you can periodically sync rsync
[09:26] <rubiksmomo> histo: But it's 1-way?
[09:26] <SteamBlade> i really doubt it, the whole reason i keep coming back to ubuntu is that it has such a wide community of developers that it has, in my opinion, the best support for the most different types of hardware
[09:27] <histo> rubiksmomo: well you could rsync dir1 dir2  and then dir2 dir1 the other way but that'd be kind of pointless
[09:27] <Gary_9431>  bekks i see but doens;t ubuntu has inbuilt drivers for most pcs?
[09:27] <bekks> Gary_9431: Yes.
[09:27] <rubiksmomo> histo: It won't know if there's new file on dir1 or if it was deleted from dir2
[09:27] <gr33dy1> im gonna try LILI like histo said see if it does anything
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !modules | Gary_9431
[09:27] <SteamBlade> not a bad idea lol
[09:28] <histo> rubiksmomo: owncloud?
[09:28] <SteamBlade> id swing at anything at this point
[09:28] <gr33dy1> starting to get pissed
[09:29] <histo> Gary_9431: it will boot fine on most machines.
[09:29] <histo> gr33dy1: did you try the link I gave you?
[09:29] <gr33dy1> yes i dled, and am trying it now
[09:29] <gr33dy1> although ubuntu isnt native for it
[09:30] <histo> gr33dy1: you point it at the iso and point it at your thumbdrive. reboot and rejoice
[09:30] <gr33dy1> lol we shall see
[09:30] <gr33dy1> but it seems like lili likes 15.04 better
[09:30] <rubiksmomo> histo: There's only a client in repo
[09:30] <histo> gr33dy1: it doesn't like anythign it just writes the iso bit for bit to the thumb drive
[09:30] <SteamBlade> your iso should be solid, try to install it to the usb in through lili, if that fails, im saying it comes down to hardware, whether its the flashdrve or the computer
[09:30] <histo> gr33dy1: if it's not then use win32 disk imager or dd
[09:31] <histo> gr33dy1: did you ever compare the hash of your iso to verified ones?
[09:31] <gr33dy1> here goes nothing
[09:31] <gr33dy1> no i didnt
[09:31] <gr33dy1> brb
[09:31] <histo> rubiksmomo: huh?
[09:32] <histo> rubiksmomo: are you syncing a local directory to another local directory for some reason?
[09:32]  * hobbet1 crosses fingers for histo and SteamBlade for luck
[09:32] <SteamBlade> lol
[09:33] <histo> PEBKAC
[09:33] <rubiksmomo> histo: Syncing files between local SSD and a MicroSD card
[09:33] <histo> rubiksmomo: why both ways?
[09:33] <bekks> rubiksmomo: rsync, unison, etc.
[09:34] <rubiksmomo> histo: rsync is 1-way. Unison becomes unresponsive when I use my "videos" profile. I could edit files on either side, I don't want to go through the changes manually.
[09:35] <bekks> rubiksmomo: It seems like unison becomes unresponsive, but it needs quite some time, especially for large files.
[09:35] <Rrjj> Is it really necessary to download a dedicated firewall for Xubuntu LTS?
[09:35] <histo> and slow speeds of micrsd
[09:35] <bekks> Rrjj: No.
[09:35] <histo> !fw | Rrjj
[09:35] <Rrjj> Why?
[09:35] <histo> !firewall | Rrjj
[09:36] <Gary_943> sorry i got network issue histo
[09:36] <Rrjj> Is ufw enabled by default?
[09:36] <rubiksmomo> bekks: It's not using any CPU and I don't think it should take 5min to analyze couple video files
[09:36] <Gary_943> i didn;t received ur message histo
[09:36] <histo> Rrjj: ufw is used for managing
[09:36] <histo> Gary_943: it will boot fine on most hardware
[09:36] <bekks> rubiksmomo: So run it using strace and see what it really does.
[09:37] <Rrjj> How to know if it's running ?
[09:37] <rubiksmomo> Unison gets stuck saying "contacting server". I have no idea what server that is. :S
[09:37] <Rrjj> What command should I use to see its status?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Rrjj: did you read the url?
[09:38] <histo> Rrjj: what version are you running 15.04?
[09:38] <Rrjj> 14.04 LTS
[09:38] <Gary_943> histo i see, so  booting a saved ubuntu for multiple pcs should be an issue and it doesn;t binds itself for one particular hardware right ?
[09:38] <Rrjj> Are you guys currently using UNITY?
[09:38] <bekks> Gary_943: No. Depending on the hardware differences, you MAY need different drivers.
[09:39] <Gary_943> ok  bekks
[09:39] <histo> Gary_943: correct, the kernel loads whatever modules it needs on an as needed basis
[09:39] <rubiksmomo> bekks: I'm using GUI, how can enable that strace?
[09:39] <histo> Gary_943: unless you start getting into proprietary video drivers etc...
[09:39] <bekks> rubiksmomo: open a terminal, start strace unison ...
[09:40] <histo> bekks: I'm not on ubuntu is there an iptables service or something he can check to ease his mind.
[09:40] <Rrjj> I've input this command 'sudo ufw status verbose' and it says inactice
[09:40] <Rrjj> *inactive
[09:40] <histo> Rrjj: what do you want to block?
[09:40] <bekks> Rrjj: So read on :) The article given describes what to do.
[09:41] <Rrjj> None as of this moment. I am just being paranoid as a newbie Linux user.
[09:41] <Rrjj> Do I need to enable it for home users?
[09:41] <histo> Rrjj: are you sitting behind a router?
[09:41] <baja_> compiz
[09:41] <baja_> command
[09:41] <Rrjj> Yes, I'm using a standard router.
[09:42] <histo> Rrjj: then you are behind a firewall
[09:42] <baja_> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: ccp
[09:43] <histo> baja_: what are you trying to do?
[09:43] <baja_> im installing windows manager
[09:44] <histo> baja_: why?
[09:44] <Rrjj> Thanks for answering my questions.
[09:44] <histo> Rrjj: np
[09:44] <baja_> coz i dint have it before
[09:44] <baja_> i couldn't minimize or maximize
[09:44] <histo> baja_: did you try asking in #ubuntustudio?
[09:44] <baja_> yea thats where isolution got the
[09:45] <baja_> histo stop
[09:45] <baja_> you supposed to help
[09:45] <baja_> not ask me
[09:46] <baja_> i have already explained to you what i am installing do you have solution?
[09:46] <baja_> or not
[09:46] <hobbet1> i dont see gr33dy i wonder if it worked
[09:46] <histo> !details | baja_
[09:46] <Gary_943> can a module for propritary driver still load even if it had been switched off from bios, i have a laptops with switchable optimus technology, i have switched it  to integrated video driver and have turned off the other video driver, is it still possbile that linux would load the module for that switched off driver?
[09:47] <SteamBlade> dont jinx it hobbet1
[09:47] <hobbet1> lol
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> baja_: dont demand solutions here, patience
[09:47] <baja_> i was instlalling windows manager so that i can be able to minimize and maximize windows. But now i have this error:compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: cpp
[09:47] <rubiksmomo> bekks: Here's the strace for Unison. Any idea why it analyzes so slow? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11860203/
[09:48] <histo> baja_: what are you doing to get that error?
[09:48] <baja_> nkt
[09:48] <baja_> anyone else not you histo
[09:48] <histo> rubiksmomo: what is yoru througput on microsd
[09:48] <Gary_943> histo can a module for propritary driver still load even if it had been switched off from bios, i have a laptops with switchable optimus technology, i have switched it  to integrated video driver and have turned off the other video driver, is it still possbile that linux would load the module for that switched off driver?
[09:49] <rubiksmomo> histo: I don't know. How could I find out?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> baja_: you wont get any help with that attitude
[09:49] <histo> Gary_943: I don't believe so. I've never used the optimus stuff myself. But if you're disabling the hardware you should be okay.
[09:49] <baja_> my attitud edepends on who you are my personality is me
[09:49] <histo> Gary_943: if you boot and get a blank screen you can always try passing nomodeset as a kernel option
[09:50] <histo> rubiksmomo: iotop
[09:50] <Gary_943> ok histo
[09:50] <baja_> personality is me humble person but attitude depends who you are
[09:50] <baja_> and how im interactign with you
[09:50] <histo> !nomodeset | Gary_943
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !ot | baja_
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Gary_943: have you installed nvidia-prime?
[09:50] <baja_> ok was just emphasizing
[09:50] <IdleOne> baja_: Change your attitude to one that doesn't offend people if you wish to receive help
[09:51] <baja_> ok thanks
[09:51] <histo> Gary_943: you can install multiple video drivers to cover a wide range or depend on vesa
[09:51] <baja_> people should offer solution instead of asking me redundant
[09:51] <histo> I was trying to help oh well
[09:52] <valentinmu> hello guys
[09:52] <EriC^^> hello va
[09:52] <EriC^^> valentinmu
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: welcome, what can we do you for?
[09:52] <valentinmu> i have updated to 14.04 lately, and after that i have problem starting gnome control center
[09:53] <valentinmu> it crashes ^(
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: are you on ubuntu-gnome?
[09:53] <valentinmu> lotuspsychje: yep
[09:54] <EriC^^> valentinmu: try reinstalling gnome-control-center
[09:54] <EriC^^> !info gnome-control-center
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: and wich ubuntu version did you came from?
[09:54] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-control-center
[09:54] <valentinmu> 12.04
[09:55] <nbusrone> hi anyone know how to read smart output ? using Gsmartcontrol
[09:55] <valentinmu> EriC^^: just did reinstall with no result
[09:56] <EriC^^> valentinmu: type dmesg
[09:56] <EriC^^> valentinmu: try opening it from a terminal, type gnome-control-center in a terminal
[09:56] <valentinmu> EriC^^: i did that
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: any errors?
[09:57] <EriC^^> ok does it say any errors before it crashes?
[09:58] <valentinmu> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UL9bzL7z
[09:58] <valentinmu> here is what i see
[09:58] <nbusrone> I am not sure whether the value is correct but I only use about 49 days :(
[09:58] <gr33dy1> nada
[09:59] <histo> gr33dy1: what error are you getting?
[10:00] <gr33dy1> unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: wich grafix driver are you using?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> gr33dy1: have you tryed universal usb installer?
[10:00] <valentinmu> here is gdb log with a bit more possible details http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WWTicB4Y
[10:00] <gr33dy1> yes
[10:00] <histo> gr33dy1: try a different usb socket
[10:01] <valentinmu> lotuspsychje: catalyst, i think :)
[10:01] <gr33dy1> i can try that idk if it will make a difference thats what i did at first
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: did you try other driver switch from additional drivers section?
[10:01] <histo> gr33dy1: do you have another machine you can boot that thumbdrive on to see that it works?
[10:01] <gr33dy1> no i dont unfortunately
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> gr33dy1: disabled secureboot and fastboot from bios?
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> (if its uefi)
[10:02] <histo> gr33dy1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15425/error-when-installing-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system
[10:02] <histo> lotuspsychje: it's a bios system, he's tried multiple burning utilities.
[10:02] <gr33dy1> i dont think so lotus, but i didn't see those in there
[10:02] <histo> gr33dy1: well let's md5sum the iso and make sure
[10:02] <gr33dy1> ok ho2
[10:03] <histo> !md5sum | gr33dy1
[10:03] <hobbet1> does he have his bios set to boot from a usb ??
[10:03] <nbusrone> Any help guy ? the raw data on gsmartcontrol or disk is like over million http://pastebin.com/vgGCKu2g
[10:03] <valentinmu> lotuspsychje: nope, should i try to use open driver?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> gr33dy1: you have the F12 key to choose boot media?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> valentinmu: yes please and reboot, just to try out if it can fix gnome control centre
[10:04] <histo> gr33dy1: was this error after a kernel panic or prior to it? I thought you mentioned that before?
[10:04] <valentinmu> lotuspsychje: will now try )
[10:04] <gr33dy1> yes i do lotus
[10:05] <gr33dy1> it was before
[10:05] <histo> nbusrone: that doesn't look very good
[10:05] <gr33dy1> the kernal panic only happened when i had the drive formatted for ntfs
[10:06] <histo> gr33dy1: You don't happen to have another thumbdrive lying around do you?
[10:06] <rubiksmomo> My Ubuntu froze when I was running iotop and tried to run "strace unison" too :<
[10:06] <histo> gr33dy1: either way md5sum first then, it's hardware based if it checks okay
[10:07] <nbusrone> histo: the raw data is changing 100 ever sec and looks like to complicated but the smart tools said health , I am confuse.
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> gr33dy1: installed an ssd recently?
[10:08] <nbusrone> histo :1188 hours isn't long right ? seldom run my pc. seek error raw data 3633600475285 ??
[10:08] <bekks> lloks like a disk dying soon.
[10:09] <bekks> nbusrone: Pastebin the entire output please.
[10:09] <histo> nbusrone: yeah whatever happened 1188-1191 was bad
[10:09] <histo> nbusrone: crc errors etc... does dmesg have a bunch of io errors?
[10:13] <nbusrone> bekks : http://pastebin.com/vgGCKu2g
[10:16] <rubiksmomo> I'm monitoring Unison with iotop. Everything is 0, but every couple seconds "Actual DISK WRITE" shows 4-46 M/s, then they drop to 0 again. Any idea Unison is resting most of the time? htop shows unison using 0% CPU all the time.
[10:16] <histo> rubiksmomo: have to probably ask the unison folks
[10:18] <ablest1980> how do i install games?
[10:18] <valentinmu> lotuspsychje: that fixed, but i have another screen resolution
[10:18] <rubiksmomo> histo: OK, thanks for the tips
[10:18] <rubiksmomo> ablest1980: Use Ubuntu Software Center
[10:18] <histo> nbusrone: did you have a power outage or something?
[10:19] <ablest1980> i downloaded enemy territory for linux dont know how to install it
[10:20] <nbusrone> histo : dmesg http://pastebin.com/fSXSmKL7 few times of power outage , but does it really affect that much ?
[10:20] <ablest1980> says error with software center
[10:21] <histo> ablest1980: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory#Installation
[10:21] <ablest1980> ty
[10:22] <hobbet1> anything more on gr33dy1  ???
[10:22] <nbusrone> bekks : dmesg http://pastebin.com/fSXSmKL7
[10:23] <nbusrone> how does it look for the dmesg output on kernal error ? :(
[10:24] <ablest1980> hi lotuspsychje
[10:28] <kreen> Hi!
[10:29] <bekks> nbusrone: Actually I asked you for the smartctl output :)
[10:33] <nbusrone> bekks : gsmartcontrol http://pastebin.com/vgGCKu2g
[10:38] <nbusrone> Histo , bekks : no respond ? I had test boot to windows and using smart output crystaldiskinfo shows health ?
[10:39] <bekks> nbusrone: Did you try changing the cable?
[10:39] <bekks> nbusrone: forget crystaldiskinfo. you can throw some dice, which will give better results.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:57] <kreen> Hi all!!
[10:57] <Tumbtack> Hi, I need help; I have a PPA with a package, that is also on the built-in repos, however the package on the PPA is a lot more up to date
[10:58] <Tumbtack> How do I install the package from the ppa, ignoring the one on the built-in repos?
[10:59] <kreen> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16211/how-to-install-ppa-packages-in-an-apt-get-style ?
[11:00] <Tumbtack> kreen, that's a completely different thing
[11:00] <Tumbtack> oh, he left
[11:01] <kshl> Hi all! just joined this channel
[11:01] <Ben64> Tumbtack: you should explain your problem
[11:02] <nbusrone> bekks : tried once , this is the new cable
[11:03] <Tumbtack> Ben64, I want to install midori and keep it up-to-date via apt
[11:03] <Tumbtack> however the version on the official ubuntu repos is from like 2011, which is unusably old for me
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> Tumbtack  i installed midori, couldnt make it run, tho, not sure why
[11:03] <Tumbtack> there's a PPA with the up to date versions, but
[11:04] <Tumbtack> apt values stuff in the official repos over PPAs I guess
[11:04] <Ben64> so add the ppa
[11:04] <Tumbtack> yes
[11:04] <Tumbtack> did
[11:04] <Ben64> then install it
[11:04] <Tumbtack> :I
[11:04] <Tumbtack> are you even reading what I'm saying
[11:04] <Ben64> yep
[11:04] <Tumbtack> I can't just "install" it because apt tries to install the one from the official repos rather than the ppa
[11:04] <Tumbtack> I can comment out everything in /etc/apt/sources.list and install it, then uncomment it
[11:05] <Tumbtack> but this is obviously an unacceptable solution
[11:05] <Ben64> then you probably didn't add the ppa properly, or it doesn't have a version for your version
[11:05] <Tumbtack> :/
[11:05] <Tumbtack> hmm
[11:05] <Tumbtack> let me try again I guess
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Tumbtack  better contact the ppa's maintainer
[11:06] <Tumbtack> MonkeyDust, look https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:06] <Tumbtack> the ppa obviously has the newest version
[11:07] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:08] <Tumbtack> vivid
[11:10] <Ben64> Tumbtack: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy midori"
[11:10] <nbusrone> bekks : Anyway gtg , just that if scan disk error , which application or command to use ?  or using seagate tools ? http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/201271en?language=en_US
[11:11] <Tumbtack> Ben64, http://9fcb7ff46aa1917e.paste.se/
[11:12] <bekks> nbusrone: smartctl.
[11:12] <Tumbtack> wait
[11:12] <Tumbtack> hold on
[11:12] <bekks> nbusrone: Not gsmartctl. :)
[11:12] <Tumbtack> oh my god
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> Tumbtack  what's new in the ppa version?
[11:12] <Tumbtack> I just forgot to apt-get update
[11:12] <Tumbtack> oh my god I'm so dumb ._.
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> Tumbtack  reading online newspaper comments helps you feel smart again
[11:14] <Tumbtack> MonkeyDust, true d:
[11:14] <nbusrone> bekks : Ok , will test out when I am free , thanks for the help :)
[11:17]  * Bl4ckD34Th I am back... baby
[11:18]  * Bl4ckD34Th I am back... baby
[11:28] <Rrjj> Why can't I play Facebook videos but videos on YouTUbe plays normally?
[11:29] <SchrodingersScat> Rrjj: could facebook be using flash and youtube be using html5?
[11:30] <Rrjj> Should I install flash using software center?
[11:30] <unusedPhD> i would install chrome
[11:30] <unusedPhD> has flash built in
[11:30] <Rrjj> How bout chromium?
[11:31] <unusedPhD> chromium does not include flash
[11:31] <ioria> pepper
[11:31] <moh_> hi
[11:31] <Rrjj> How to install chrome?
[11:31] <moh_> just a noob question
[11:32] <moh_> So after trying out Ubuntu for a while now i am finally making a switch from Windows 7 to Ubuntu on my home laptop.   Now the problem is that i want to install Ubuntu in such a way that i will not loose any files.   So basically i have C: D: and E: partitions, with C: being the windows partition and the target for the Ubuntu install.  Please can someone guide me as to how to go about the install without touching the D & E partitions.  Th
[11:32] <Rrjj> Do I need to go to Chrome's download page?
[11:32] <Tumbtack> Rrjj, go to the official chrome site
[11:32] <Tumbtack> mhm
[11:32] <Tumbtack> do you know if you're using 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:32] <Rrjj> No need adding PPA right?
[11:32] <Tumbtack> nope
[11:32] <unusedPhD> download the package and double click, it should bring up the software center for install
[11:32] <Tumbtack> though it would make things easier
[11:32] <Tumbtack> unusedPhD, hold on
[11:32] <moh_> 32Bit
[11:32] <Tumbtack> he needs to figure out which ubuntu he's using
[11:32] <Tumbtack> 32 or 64
[11:33] <Tumbtack> I suppose he could just grab 32 either way but still
[11:33] <SchrodingersScat> Rrjj: I don't remember adding the google repo manually, so there's a chance that the package does this...?
[11:34] <Rrjj> Okay. I'll download it direct from chrome's site then. Thanks
[11:34] <Tumbtack> SchrodingersScat, I know for a fact it does
[11:34] <Tumbtack> when I installed the deb with dpkg, a line was output saying that the repo was added
[11:34] <Tumbtack> I'm using midori now
[11:35] <Tumbtack> it's actually a much nicer experience
[11:35] <SchrodingersScat> k, thanks.  It's been a while
[11:42] <Rrjj> Why is the loading screen gone when installing proprietary driver (Nvidia)
[11:42] <Rrjj> It was replaced by Nvidia big green logo
[11:43] <rrr_> is there channel for AWS?
[11:44] <Rrjj> The built-in splash screen looks nicer than the replaced version by Nvidia
[11:44] <Rrjj> Is there a way to revert that change?
[11:45] <meldron> hi guys, i recently discoverd that I can only start thunderbird from the command line, anybody had a similar problem and or a solutuion? thanks
[11:54] <OerHeks> Rrjj, looks like you used the driver from the nvidia site, not from our repos, where the nvidia logo must have been removed?
[11:55] <Rrjj> No i used the software updater
[11:55] <Rrjj> under additional drivers
[11:55] <OerHeks> strange, i never noticed a nvidia logo during boot.
[11:55] <Rrjj> Version 331.113
[11:56] <ioria> Rrjj, take a look,   but be cautious ...http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/remove-nvidia-logo-from-ubuntu-startup-screen/
[11:56] <Rrjj> The original splash screen was gone.
[11:56] <Tumbtack> huh
[11:56] <Rrjj> ioria: Ok I'll look it up now.
[11:56] <Tumbtack> Rrjj, I've experienced that in the past too
[11:57] <Tumbtack> I installed my current nvidia driver from the file
[11:57] <Tumbtack> also you're like 20 versions out of date btw
[11:57] <Rrjj> Yes, I've also seen other posted the same problem.
[11:57] <Tumbtack> but yeah I installed mine from the nvidia site and it didn't change anything
[11:57] <Tumbtack> but in the past I used the built in driver installer and it changed it
[11:57] <Tumbtack> weird
[11:57] <Rrjj> You mean the xOrg?
[11:57] <Tumbtack> what
[11:58] <Rrjj> X.Org driver?
[11:58] <Tumbtack> yes but
[11:59] <Tumbtack> I don't think you should even have to know what xorg is to install a driver these days
[11:59] <Spodermen_sweg> Yo #ubuntu, can someone help me, please? I have ubuntu installed on a flash drive and cannot boot windows except through the grub screen when booting from the flash drive . I want to install ubuntu on my hard drive now, how do I do that?
[11:59] <Tumbtack> the gpu companies and everything have made it ridiculously simple and hands-off
[11:59] <Rrjj> Does using the open source driver stresses the processor?
[12:00] <Tumbtack> I don't think so but you shouldn't be using it
[12:00] <Tumbtack> it's a lot less efficient
[12:00] <Rrjj> Also boot screen says "usb over current"
[12:00] <Tumbtack> and many games and stuff won't run
[12:00] <Rrjj> But all the ports are working fine.
[12:01] <Rrjj> Seeing this logo "http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/remove-nvidia-logo-from-ubuntu-startup-screen/"
[12:01] <Spodermen_sweg> !help
[12:01] <OerHeks> Spodermen_sweg, you have put grub2 on your windows hdd while making that usb device. put in your windows dvd and repair your boot
[12:01] <OerHeks> and then use the manual to put grub on that usb
[12:01] <Spodermen_sweg> I dont have the windows dvd
[12:01] <Rrjj> usb - Over-Current condition
[12:02] <sh0t> hi guys i can't get to read a dvd with vlc how can I check whether it's the dvd or it's me being dumb?
[12:03] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: what's the problem?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> sh0t  try reading the dvd with a different program
[12:03] <coraxx> sh01: You need to install libdvdcss2 if the DVD is an orginal (encrypted) movie DVD
[12:03] <sh0t> yeah i tried mplayer
[12:03] <OerHeks> sh0t, did you follow these steps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[12:03] <sh0t> and i still have problems
[12:04] <sh0t> i found hard to belieave it's the dvd because I cant read the whole collection of 12 dvd
[12:04] <sh0t> s
[12:04] <sh0t> coraxx, i have libdvdcss2 isntaleld
[12:04] <vubuntu> iphone 4 wont charge on ubuntu 15.04
[12:04] <coraxx> sh0t: and another thing is the regional setting ...you need to set the region code to your region (the region on the DVD)
[12:04] <sh0t> oh
[12:04] <Spodermen_sweg> EriC^^ : i want to install ubuntu but I cant use windows without booting ubuntu from a flash drive
[12:05] <OerHeks> sh0t, not all dvd's will play, 5% or so
[12:05] <sh0t> what the ***!??! OerHeks 5%?
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> !iphone | vubuntu
[12:05] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: ok, install ubuntu and you can use ubuntu to start windows later until you get a windows dvd
[12:06] <Spodermen_sweg> Well, I did that
[12:06] <vubuntu> MonkeyDust: yes iphone wont charge on usb charger
[12:06] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: ok you installed ubuntu, is ubuntu booting?
[12:06] <coraxx> sh0t: ignore OerHeks ..until you've set the region code.
[12:06] <sh0t> ok
[12:06] <Spodermen_sweg> It is installed but on the flash drive, not my laptop's hard drive
[12:07] <mintux1> i've installed compiz on mate desktop but for 3d windows i have this problem. my vga is embedded intel only on mac mini http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/15/0711/h_1436615726_6603231_c090d35c97.png should i install special driver ?
[12:07] <Spodermen_sweg> Is there anyway I can install without having to use a flash or dvd?
[12:07] <sh0t> coraxx, can u please tell me how do i find out about this regional code on my dvd?
[12:08] <Spodermen_sweg> Could I make a partition on my hard drive bootable with unetbootin?
[12:08] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: yeah, download the ubuntu iso to your harddisk, then boot it from any grub menu (i'll give you a link about how to do that) and then install ubuntu to your hdd
[12:08] <ioria> sh0t, play easy with Region code, if i remember well you can set it only few times... no sure
[12:08] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: so you don't have an ubuntu bootable live usb right now, correct?
[12:08] <sh0t> ioria am I writing on the dvd?
[12:08] <coraxx> sh0t: if you look at the cover....there should be a symbol of the world (world map) and a big number in the middle ...that would be your region number.
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  is this useful http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[12:09] <Spodermen_sweg> No, I had it but accidentally installed to that same usb
[12:09] <Spodermen_sweg> Thank you MonkeyDust
[12:09] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: ok, i didn't know one could do that
[12:09] <ioria> sh0t, yes, i think on the dvd firmware, i repeat ... not sure ... google it
[12:09] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: do you still have the iso file you used?
[12:09] <coraxx> sh0t: you are not writing on the DVD ...when you set the regioncode, it is writing on the DVD-drives flash-memory ... you have 5 times to change your mind, then the region locks.
[12:09] <Spodermen_sweg> EriC^^:  yes
[12:10] <EriC^^> ok, boot the usb you made, and when you get grub, press e and follow these instructions to boot the .iso file
[12:10] <ioria> coraxx, right
[12:10] <EriC^^> hold on
[12:10] <sh0t> ok ioria coraxx thanks
[12:10] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[12:10] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: sorry, when you get grub, press c not e
[12:11] <vubuntu> my iphone wont charge with usb charger any suggesions
[12:11] <ioria> sh0t, first, you have to be sure that is the issue
[12:11] <sh0t> hey ioria i can't see this number :/
[12:11] <sh0t> http://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Scotland-DVD-Neil-Oliver/dp/B002SCQKGQ
[12:11] <coraxx> sh0t: depending on you particular DVD-drive, there are instruction on the internet on how to make your DVD-drive "region free" ...which means you would be able to read DVD from all regions.
[12:11] <sh0t> can u see it there?
[12:11] <coraxx> sh0t:nic!
[12:11] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: ls will list the devices/partitions, and use ls (hd0,msdos1)/something/something to get the path to your iso file, ls alone will tell you the name of your partitions like hd0,msdos2 or hd1,msdos...
[12:12] <coraxx> sh0t:nick!
[12:12] <sh0t> ?
[12:12] <coraxx> sh0t: (rember to write the Nick in front of your question, so we know who you are adressing :-)  )
[12:12] <sh0t> ahhh
[12:12] <ioria> sh0t, Region: Region 2 (This DVD may not be viewable outside Europe. Read more about DVD formats.)
[12:13] <sh0t> oh i see
[12:13] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: the stuff in that link below menuentry "Ubuntu 12.04 ISO" { are the commands you need to manually issue in grub's command prompt
[12:14] <ioria> sh0t, check if you have libdvdread4 installed   dpkg -l libdvdread4
[12:14] <Wookimonsta> hey everybody
[12:14] <coraxx> ioria: he has ...otherwise he wouldn't have libdvdcss2
[12:14] <ioria> oh
[12:14] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: starting with set isofile="......
[12:14] <sh0t> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11860696/
[12:16] <coraxx> sh0t: as soon as you set your DVD-drive to region 2 ...there will be magic :-)
[12:16] <sh0t> ok coraxx i'll try that
[12:17] <Spodermen_sweg> EriC^^:Ok, im going to try this asap, thank you very much
[12:17] <Wookimonsta> I was wondering if maybe one of you could point me in the right direction, on this machine, apt-get update just stops after downloading all the lists and the entire system slows down to a crawl. I
[12:17] <sh0t> coraxx should I use regionset?
[12:17] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: ok, no problem
[12:17] <sh0t> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1061134
[12:17] <coraxx> sh0t: yes
[12:18] <ioria> !info regionset | sh0t
[12:18] <coraxx> sh0t: that thread is from before 2012 ...ignore it-
[12:18] <sh0t> ok
[12:19] <coraxx> sh0t: today there is only two steps  ... step 1  install regionset (sudo apt-get ins.....)  ...step 2)  sudo regionset /dev/<name of device> 2
[12:20] <Spodermen_sweg> One last thing, EriC^^, you mentioned 12.04, just to be clear, these instructions apply to all versions?
[12:20] <sh0t> coraxx, that's what I've just done
[12:20] <sh0t> but it seems i still have problems
[12:20] <sh0t> :(
[12:20] <sh0t> coraxx [0x7f253c0009b8] main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
[12:20] <coraxx> sh0t: what kind of problems...please describe.
[12:20] <sh0t> output of vlc
[12:21] <sh0t> coraxx: also libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[12:21] <coraxx> sh0t: please restart you system ..and try again and tell if the problem persists.
[12:21] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: yes, they apply to newer version as well, make sure you have the right file in the linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz.efi line ( .efi for 64bit and just vmlinuz for 32bit)
[12:21] <sh0t> ok
[12:21] <ioria> sh0t, did you run region set ?
[12:21] <sh0t> ioria, yes i did
[12:21] <EriC^^> Spodermen_sweg: you can use tab completion in grub also
[12:22] <ioria> sh0t, are you sure of the device selected ?
[12:22] <sh0t> yes i am pretty sure...
[12:22] <sh0t> /dev/sr0
[12:22] <sh0t> it kind of makes noise when i triy to read it
[12:22] <sh0t> so that msut be it
[12:22] <sh0t> :)
[12:22] <ioria> yep
[12:23] <coraxx> sh0t: ioria .-)
[12:23] <coraxx> * :-)
[12:23] <Wookimonsta> Hey guys, I was wondering if one of you could help me with an apt problem Ive been having
[12:24] <ioria> sh0t,  "No DVD menus". You just have to enable that option before"
[12:24] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: what kind-a apt problem ? :-)
[12:24] <Wookimonsta> coraxx: well whenever I do an apt-get update
[12:24] <Wookimonsta> it loads the list completely and then just stops
[12:24] <vubuntu> iphone wont charge on usb charger
[12:25] <Wookimonsta> not only does it stop, it slows down the entire system to a crawl
[12:25] <sh0t> ioria, what?
[12:25] <sh0t> i havent restarted yet
[12:26] <ioria> sh0t,  ok, restart... but in the TS section of the guide...there are some hints ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Setting_DVD_Region_Codes
[12:26] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: I sounds like a defective database (the apt list) .... can you see at what point it is stopping  (during a download or doing "Reading database...") ?
[12:26] <ioria> sh0t,  about vlc, i mean
[12:27] <Wookimonsta> well coraxx the last message I get is (in german) Downloaded 17,5 MB in 1 min, then it just stops.
[12:28] <Wookimonsta> when I do an apt-get update it does ¨reading package lists 4%¨ but VERY slowly increasing and eventually stops
[12:28] <EriC^^> Wookimonsta: that's normal, apt-get update updates the package lists of what can be installed
[12:28] <EriC^^> Wookimonsta: it stops before 100%?
[12:29] <Wookimonsta> yeah, Ive had it running over 2 days, never finished just stops
[12:29] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: "Fetched XXXX kB in XXs (XXX kB/s)" .... the next step from there is "Reading package lists" ...but you don't see that ...correct understood ?
[12:29] <sh0t> coraxx, ioria i restarted but still doesn't work
[12:29] <Wookimonsta> coraxx: yes
[12:29] <EriC^^> Wookimonsta: try sudo apt-get -f install , what happens?
[12:29] <modman> hello all
[12:30] <coraxx> sh0t: try another DVD and see if it persists
[12:30] <sh0t> coraxx, ioria http://pastebin.com/YxMmf7Xx
[12:30] <Wookimonsta> EriC^^: reading packetlists VERY slowly
[12:30] <sh0t> ok
[12:30] <Wookimonsta> in fact it keeps getting slower until there is no change
[12:30] <EriC^^> Wookimonsta: is only apt slow or other programs too?
[12:30] <ioria> sh0t,  in vlc when you choose to open a disc, there's an option "No DVD menus". You just have to enable that... have you tied this ?
[12:30] <sh0t> nope ioria
[12:30] <sh0t> i try now
[12:31] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: I'm am currently looking at --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-update-gets-stuck-while-reading-package-list-on-my-slug-795324/
[12:31] <Wookimonsta> coraxx: that looks pretty promising, hadnt found that one yet
[12:31] <Wookimonsta> I will give it a shot
[12:31] <sh0t> ioria, Playback failure:
[12:31] <sh0t> DVDRead could not read -1/4 blocks at 0x01.
[12:32] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: yup...look at last post ... and follow he's steps
[12:32] <chomwitt> why suddenly adobeflash videos wont play and i must press 'Activate Adobe Flash'.  newbie relatives and friends ask me with angst!  i mean  i can tell them what to do but its makes ubuntu seem broken with no reason
[12:33] <Wookimonsta> thanks for the pointer coraxx, gonna go do that
[12:33] <coraxx> Wookimonsta: you're welcome :-)
[12:33] <ioria> sh0t,  "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. "   this make me think....
[12:34] <sh0t> yeah  how do i nstalle them
[12:34] <sh0t> what's the package
[12:34] <sh0t> ?
[12:34] <coraxx> chomwitt: Adobe flash is not a "free" software ...please bare that in mind ... if you are not running the newest version, Chrome or Firefox might place warnings and popus when you visit websites that uses the plugin.
[12:34] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ? the manual edit of the grub file not to see a blank screen each time i shut the machine down only works if I turn the machine off less than half an hour (i believe, not sure) after having turned it on. Longer than that I only get a blank screen. Hows so?
[12:35] <ioria> sh0t,  did you run this ? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[12:35] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Really!!?! That PC has a ind of its own!
[12:35] <TJ-> s/ind/mind
[12:35] <ioria> sh0t,  after installing libdvdread4 ?
[12:35] <BBLLCC> TJ-, what other explanations can you think of?
[12:35] <coraxx> chomwitt: ...simply update to the newest flash version.
[12:35] <sh0t> ioria, nope i am doing it now
[12:36] <coraxx> sh0t: ioria  aaaaaahhhh that explains a lot ...good work ioria ...there always seems to be something missing :-)
[12:36] <ioria> sh0t,  reboot  then ....
[12:37] <sh0t> ioria, coraxx !! Yey it works...i wish i knew which of the steps i did si the one necessary
[12:37] <ioria> coraxx, cross fingers
[12:37] <TJ-> BBLLCC: The PC has *very* buggy firmware, unfortunately
[12:37] <BBLLCC> ill drink to celebrate
[12:37] <ioria> sh0t,  ok, then
[12:38] <borgcube> #join ipfp
[12:39] <TJ-> BBLLCC: If you can let me see a kernel log from a session that has been running for a long time (and therefore should be beyond the point at which the fix works) it *may* reveal some clue. "/var/log/kern.log" is the file I'd want to see.
[12:43] <sh0t> thanks ioria coraxx
[12:43] <ioria> sh0t,  np, good vision Braveheart
[12:47] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ill wait an hour and paste it
[12:55] <Guest22922> anyone know what this could mean: /bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh cannot create /vagrant/log/flask_server.log : Protocol error
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  I use vagrant too... you *do* know what it is/does? what are you doing?
[12:57] <Guest22922> i have defined an upstart script within vagrant
[12:57] <Guest22922> but my `pre-stop script` doesn't run as i want
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  ok, that's on a different level
[12:58] <Guest22922> MonkeyDust: https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/80001ca5bd0af404768185b15495c57d09240ae2/puppet/manifests/start_webserver.pp#L59
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  i'm not familiar enough with python, assumed it was a vagrant error
[12:59] <Guest22922> it's ubuntu upstart error i believe
[13:00] <Guest22922> it's either upstart syntax: maybe i'm not stopping on the right runlevel, or my general upstart syntax is incorrect - or, its a linux concept
[13:01] <Guest22922> MonkeyDust: https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/1997#issuecomment-120598437
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  don't address me, address the channel
[13:02] <Guest22922> yes sir
[13:02] <OerHeks> "cannot create /vagrant/log/flask_server.log" seems insufficient write-privileges to me?
[13:03] <Guest22922> hmm, well the corresponding `pre-start script` is able to create the same `/vagrant/log/flask_server.log` though
[13:04] <Guest22922> maybe the process to write to `/vagrant/log/flask_server.log` in the `post-stop script` is happening too late: some things have closed that are needed for that process?
[13:06] <Guest22922> but, i've changed `post-stop script` to `pre-start-script`, and the outcome is the same.  Though, not sure if `pre-start script` is a good option because i have a `respawn` command for the overall upstart job
[13:06] <OerHeks> Guest22922, is says create, not write
[13:06] <Guest22922> yeah, that's weird
[13:07] <OerHeks> This is more an issue for #ubuntu-server or #vagrant
[13:08] <TJ-> Guest22922: There are several known Vagrant bugs around that Protocol error
[13:08] <BlackDalek> is there any package available for latest Ubuntu which can rotate the desktop wallpaper image every xx minutes?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> so it is a vagrant error after all
[13:08] <Spodermen_sweg> Holy crap, EriC^^, that guide is confusing
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info wallch
[13:10] <OerHeks> BlackDalek, ^^
[13:11] <OerHeks> BlackDalek,  or use shotwell > http://askubuntu.com/questions/134/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow
[13:12] <TJ-> Guest22922: MonkeyDust As I understand it, it's because the files are immutable. I see references in different contexts to using "--always-copy" in the Makefile, but that's not going to help if the immutability extends to generated files
[13:12] <OerHeks> Wallch has a nice clock option too
[13:13] <Spodermen_sweg> MonkeyDust: the link that you posted - it was written i  2007, will it still apply?
[13:15] <Guest22922> TJ-: the log files created in the `pre-start script` (i.e. /vagrant/log/flask_server.log) have vagrant:vagrant ownership, and 777 permission
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  remind me... what did i say?
[13:16] <Guest22922> so, i'm not sure why `pre-stop script`, or `post-stop script` is saying it can't be created
[13:16] <BlackDalek> the reviews in software centre for wallch make it sound like there could be issues running it in latest Ubuntu....
[13:16] <Guest22922> bc, `pre-start script` should have already created them
[13:16] <Spodermen_sweg> (MonkeyDust) Spodermen_sweg  is this useful http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[13:17] <Guest22922> unless it is `pre-start script that complains about not being able to create the script, and creates them anyways.  However, `pre-stop script` simply doesn't run, and doesn't output error
[13:17] <TJ-> Guest22922: Immutability - if that is the case, explains it
[13:18] <Spodermen_sweg> Would it just be better to just burn the iso to a DVD/usb
[13:18] <OerHeks> BlackDalek, some say it does not work, in those comments ( i don't trust those comments) ... but more people say it works in 14.04, and it works fine in 15.04 latest.
[13:18] <Guest22922> sorry for pestering: but, why would the file become immutable?
[13:18] <OerHeks> just tested it
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  usb/dvd is the 'normal' way to do ... i got that link from ubottu, so i guess it still applies
[13:19] <BlackDalek> ok, thanks for your input ;)
[13:19] <TJ-> Guest22922: I'm not saying it is, but it explains why the file is created but can't be appended to. Check whether its 'i' immutability attribute is set using "lsattr"
[13:19] <OerHeks> BlackDalek,  or try shotwell, it has a wallpapaer tool in it too
[13:20] <Spodermen_sweg> Hmmm... plenty of ways to screw it up, so I'll just wait until I can use the safer option
[13:20] <Spodermen_sweg> Thanks though
[13:20] <Guest22922> TJ, how can i test this - should i run a command in terminal, or within the upstart script `pre-stop script` stanza?
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Spodermen_sweg  start with making a backup
[13:21] <Spodermen_sweg> Ah almost forgot to do that
[13:22] <TJ-> Guest22922: Command in a terminal should be sufficient
[13:23] <Guest22922> TJ-, it says lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ,/flask_server.log
[13:23] <Guest22922> and it says lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ,/flask_server.pid
[13:24] <TJ-> Guest22922: you typed "," not "." ?
[13:25] <Guest22922> i typed `lsattr` in the terminal, the directory containing: flask_server.log, and flask_server.pid
[13:25] <Guest22922> the output should have been:
[13:25] <Guest22922> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./flask_server.log
[13:25] <Guest22922> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./flask_server.pid
[13:26] <boodllebat> ctrl+c kills a running process or ctrl+z ?
[13:26] <TJ-> Guest22922: Well, it's your system; maybe the file-system doesn't support attributes?
[13:26] <Guest22922> kill <processid>
[13:27] <Guest22922> would that be bad in context of my `pre-stop script` upstart stanza?
[13:27] <boodllebat> Guest22922: no i mean when you are running a process in terminal and it comes to blocking stage
[13:27] <Guest22922> ctrl+c unblocks, and stops it
[13:27] <Guest22922> you could check `ps -e` afterwards
[13:28] <boodllebat> Guest22922: alright thanks :)
[13:28] <TJ-> boodllebat: Ctrl+C sends SIGABRT, Ctrl+Z send SIGSTOP
[13:29] <boodllebat> TJ-: so what kills process completely , cause i can see when i press ctrl+z process gets terminated from terminal but still running under cpu
[13:29] <Guest22922> do i need support attributes for my file-system if i want my `pre-stop script` stanza to append to a supposed existing file (if not create it)?
[13:30] <Guest22922> if you need the terminal: i would ctrl+c, then check if the process exists, and explicitly kill it
[13:30] <Guest22922> but im a linux noob haha
[13:30] <TJ-> boodllebat: SIGABRT (if the process respects it), otherwise use "kill -TERM" or "kill -KILL"
[13:31] <boodllebat> TJ-: and what about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-pastebin/+bug/1471570 ? any progrss ?
[13:31] <TJ-> Guest22922: You need to ask the Vagrant folks; this isn't an Ubuntu issue so far as I can see
[13:32] <TJ-> boodllebat: It's Canonical - older projects of theirs get little love or get forgotten. You can try emailing the project owner directly
[13:32] <boodllebat> TJ-: alight okay thanks :)
[13:34] <Ntemis> hey guys
[13:34] <Ntemis> i need help installing wine1.7
[13:34] <Ntemis> it says i kept broken packages
[13:35] <OerHeks> Ntemis, only wine1.62 is in our repos, how do you get wine 1.7?
[13:35] <Ntemis> ppa
[13:36] <Ntemis> 1.62 will do also
[13:36] <OerHeks> 'broken packages' can be fixed with 'sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:36] <Ntemis> nothing there
[13:36] <OerHeks> carefull with PPA's, they are not supported
[13:36] <Ntemis> did fix anything
[13:36] <Ntemis> didnt
[13:37] <Ntemis> Recommends: libosmesa6 but it is not going to be installed
[13:37] <Guest22922> don't use PPA's, use puppet modules
[13:38] <Ntemis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:38] <Ntemis>  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1)
[13:38] <Ntemis> help?
[13:39] <OerHeks> Ntemis, remove that broken PPA with ppa-purge, and install the repo version ?
[13:39] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[13:39] <OerHeks> else contact the ppa owner
[13:39] <Ntemis> let me purge it
[13:40] <TJ-> Ntemis: I have wine1.7 without an issue on amd64; I think your problem is you haven't added i386 as a foreign architecture for multilib support
[13:40] <Ntemis> problem started after hw layer update to
[13:40] <Ntemis> hw stack update
[13:40] <Ntemis> a while ago and i left it there
[13:41] <Ntemis> PPA purged successfully
[13:41] <Ntemis> now what?
[13:41] <TJ-> Ntemis:  "apt-cache depends wine1.7-i386 | grep osmesa" => "Recommends: libosmesa6:i386" <--- notice the ":i386"
[13:41] <Ntemis> yes i noticed
[13:41] <Ntemis> but am on 64bit os
[13:41] <Ntemis> so it doesnt make sense to me
[13:41] <Daekdroom> Yes, but Wine supports 32-bit apps.
[13:42] <TJ-> Ntemis: "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" [13:42] <Ntemis> shit i just purged the ppa
[13:43] <Ntemis> after ppa is gone wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4)
[13:43] <Ntemis> :p
[13:43] <Ntemis> OerHeks: :p
[13:43] <TJ-> Ntemis: If it isn't there then "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update" to fetch the i386 package lists, then wine will install fine
[13:44] <Andreas33> :-)
[13:45] <Ntemis> TJ-: nope same issue
[13:46] <Ntemis> pita
[13:48] <Ntemis> LOL wine1.7:i386 : Depends: wine1.7-i386:i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:49] <Ntemis> am about to start building from source
[13:49] <Ntemis> have mercy on me
[13:49] <EriC^^> Ntemis: do sudo apt-get install wine1.7-i386 and get the error
[13:49] <EriC^^> it's fixable
[13:49] <Ntemis> nope
[13:49] <edgy> Hi, I set my apache to event mpm but with every apache update in my ubuntu server, it reverts back to prefork how can I fix this?
[13:50] <EriC^^> Ntemis: sure it is
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> edgy  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:50] <Ntemis> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Tw3bBZCr
[13:51] <edgy> MonkeyDust: ok already did but this is not specific to ubuntu server edition, it happens with desktop version too
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> edgy  i hope edgy is not the release you're working with...
[13:52] <TJ-> Ntemis: installs fine here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861064/
[13:52] <edgy> MonkeyDust: No, I am trusty
[13:52] <EriC^> Ntemis: almost there, run sudo apt-get install libopenal1
[13:53] <Ntemis> libopenal1 is already the newest version.
[13:53] <Ntemis> libopenal1 set to manually installed.
[13:53] <TJ-> Ntemis: have you disabled install-recommends?
[13:53] <Ntemis> not by intention
[13:53] <Ntemis> did i?
[13:53] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get install libopenal1:i386
[13:54] <Ntemis> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861072/
[13:55] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:55] <EriC^> we're getting there
[13:56] <Ntemis> cant find any package that needs force to install
[13:56] <EriC^> Ntemis: did you type install -f ?
[13:56] <Ntemis> yeap
[13:56] <EriC^> try -f install
[13:57] <Ntemis> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861082/
[13:58] <OerHeks> EriC^, that is new to me, what is the diff: install -f <> -f install ??
[13:59] <jbgarcia1476[AwA> ciao
[13:59] <jbgarcia1476[AwA> !list
[13:59] <EriC^> OerHeks: -f install is as you know it
[13:59] <EriC^> install -f is to force a package installation i think
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> that -f mean fix
[13:59] <EriC^> Ntemis: try sudo apt-get install cheese*
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> means*
[14:00] <Ntemis> EriC^: cheese?
[14:00] <EriC^> Ntemis: yeah, it's odd but it might work
[14:00] <EriC^> cheese* with a star
[14:01] <Ntemis> nope http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861099/
[14:01] <EriC^> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:01] <Ntemis> nope
[14:02] <Ntemis> pita
[14:02] <Ntemis> all these issues are after sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:02] <Ntemis> sorry
[14:02] <Ntemis> all these issues are after LTS Enablement Stacks
[14:02] <Ntemis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:02] <TJ-> Something messed up there... probably the more recent MESA stack causing this
[14:03] <Ntemis> on plaint trusty hw stack wine was working fine
[14:03] <TJ-> Ntemis: That is 14.04 isn't it?
[14:03] <Ntemis> yeap with utopic hw stack that broke wine
[14:04] <Sewerrat> Hey, does anybody have experience wiping a chromebook and permanentaly installing ubuntu? (not with crouton)
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  what's the ubuntu version you're working on?
[14:04] <Ntemis> 14.04.2
[14:04] <Ntemis> Linux demetris-System-Product-Name 3.16.0-44-generic #59~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 7 15:07:27 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <Ntemis> system is a ok
[14:05] <Ntemis> just wine is toast
[14:05] <Ntemis> i purged it because after the hw stack wasnt working and cant install it anymore
[14:06] <compdoc> Sewerrat, is there some problem install ubuntu the normal way?
[14:07] <DocMAX2> hi i have problems with systemctl
[14:07] <DocMAX2> i cant change Restart= property to always
[14:18] <hayman> hello please can you help
[14:19] <batou_> hayman: what's up?
[14:19] <hayman> glsl 1.30 is not supported
[14:19] <hayman> on ubuntu
[14:19] <hayman> when i try to run dolphin
[14:19] <hayman> emu
[14:20] <hayman> thanks
[14:21] <batou_> graphics card or driver doesn't support that glsl version. I have no idea how to find out what your current setup has. One for someone else.
[14:21] <SCHAAP137> hayman, what graphics chipset are you using?
[14:21] <hayman> ok thanks batou
[14:21] <hayman> it is the Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset
[14:21]  * batou_ has intel graphics. Nothing works properly on it.
[14:22] <SCHAAP137> okay, that chipset probably doesn't support that Shader level
[14:22] <hayman> oh okay is there anything i can try
[14:22] <Guest82865> it's 7 years old, yeah...
[14:22] <SCHAAP137> depends, hayman
[14:22] <hayman> oh okay
[14:23] <batou_> Apparently dolphin only supports HD3000 and above which is newer than the GM45
[14:23] <batou_> see: https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/#which-gpu-do-i-need
[14:23] <hayman> oh okay then thanks for your help in finding that out
[14:24] <hayman> ill give it a try (:-{)
[14:24] <kichuku> Is there a tool for uploading videos to youtube from command line?
[14:24] <kichuku> I have tried https://github.com/tokland/youtube-upload and it doesn't work.
[14:24] <kichuku> Is there any other tool?
[14:26] <batou_> yes: https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/videos/insert#examples
[14:26] <batou_> various languages can talk to youtube API to upload
[14:27] <batou_> I don't think there is a canned solution that does everything. I couldn't find one anyway so we moved all our crap to vimeo which is easier.
[14:28] <conall> Hi All, I have just downloaded ubuntu 15.04 and installed it on a usb via "Startup disk creator". The problem is, it seems to be a uefi install and if I install ubuntu with this usb I will overwrite my windows installation
[14:28] <conall> Does anyone know hoe to install ubutnu 15.04 in bios mode?
[14:29] <TJ-> conall: That doesn't sound correct; the installer should/will install alongside other OSs
[14:29] <TJ-> conall: In fact, in UEFI mode, the installation is less likely to upset the Windows boot than using BIOS mode
[14:29] <OerHeks> maybe your hdd is GPT, so the ubuntu installer does not see partitions?
[14:30] <conall> Do I have to switch to uefi mode to install ubntu?
[14:30] <TJ-> conall: if the system is already using UEFI that is what you would be best using for Ubuntu too
[14:31] <EriC^> conall: if windows is installed in uefi mode you need to install ubuntu in uefi mode as well
[14:31] <conall> Ok, but the system uses bios
[14:31] <conall> Windows is installed in bios mode
[14:31] <EriC^> conall: how are you booting the usb?
[14:32] <conall> I reboot my machine, press f12, select the "usb" option under "Legacy mode"
[14:32] <conall> this results in an error
[14:32] <TJ-> conall: You mean Windows is installed in legacy BIOS mode? In which case also boot the installer in legacy mode and the installer will use that
[14:32] <conall> I forget what exactly it says, but something like OS not found
[14:32] <EriC^> conall: how did you create the usb?
[14:33] <conall> TJ-, I tried to, but I get an error when I do that
[14:33] <TJ-> conall: Have you checked the hash checksum of the image on the USB device against that published in the download page for the ISO?
[14:33] <conall> The built in startup disk creator
[14:33] <conall> TJ-, no I have not
[14:33] <conall> I will do that now
[14:34] <TJ-> conall: The ISO images a re hybrib bootable: BIOS/UEFI and optical media ISO9660/El Torito, so if there's a problem its likely a corrupted image
[14:34] <conall> Where can I find the checksum?
[14:34] <EriC^> !hashes
[14:34] <conall> ty
[14:35] <TJ-> EriC^: I wish that also showed how to calculate the hash from the installation media itself
[14:36] <EriC^> TJ-: there's a md5sum.txt in the installation media, md5sum -c md5sum.txt is helpful i guess
[14:36] <TJ-> EriC^: That doesn't help on how to calculate the hash on the installation media though; for that, you have to calculate the hash over the exact same number of bytes in the ISO
[14:37] <conall> I just did a "md5sum ubuntu...."
[14:37] <conall> And they are the same
[14:37] <batou_> That's good enough
[14:37] <conall> So any ideas why I cant boot into ubuntu?
[14:38] <conall> I suppose Ill try installing it again on my usb
[14:38] <batou_> Can you run it in a virtual machine (virtualbox) ?
[14:38] <batou_> Ashamedly that's what I do.
[14:38] <EriC^> conall: TJ- if he installs in uefi mode, could he possibly after the installation installation grub-pc and it would boot in legacy mode or he'd have to be booted in legacy mode for that?
[14:39] <EriC^> ( and make a bios-boot partition )
[14:40] <TJ-> EriC^: Yes, but rather convoluted if you're not familiar with doing that sort of hack
[14:41] <EriC^> it would work though?
[14:41] <TJ-> EriC^: I'm more concerned the image on the USB is incorrect. If the CSM is reporting No Operating System that means it can't read the MBR partition table
[14:41] <EriC^> you can't do that in reverse though right? booting in legacy and then installing grub-efi cause you need the efivars right? or you could also load those later?
[14:41] <EriC^> TJ-: yeah this is just a last resort sort of thing
[14:43] <TJ-> EriC^: It can be done, yes, if you hack it - mainly by copying the grubx64.efi to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI so the UEFI can use the simple boot protocol on the initial UEFI boot when there is not boot menu entry, and from there grub-install ... to trigger efibootmgr
[14:43] <EriC^> conall: try the integrity check of the usb, boot in uefi mode and see if you get the integrity check option and run it, maybe the usb is damaged or something
[14:43] <conall> Will do, Its almost finished installing on usb now
[14:43] <conall> Also, Runs fine in virtualbox
[14:45]  * batou_ remembers when Unix itself was smaller than a UEFI setup...
[14:45] <TJ-> EriC^: conall: I use this to ensure the hash of installation media: DEV="/dev/sdX"; "ISO="/path/to/image.iso"; sudo dd if=$DEV obs=$(stat -c %s $ISO) count=1 | md5sum -b"
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> batou_  blame whoever invented/introduced UEFI
[14:46] <batou_> MonkeyDust: indeed
[14:46] <batou_> so basically Microsoft!
[14:46] <conall> Ok, install completed. Will reboot and try installing again. Ill let ye know how I get on
[14:47] <batou_> Finally remembered why I logged in to IRC. Does anyone know how to set up a virtual PDF printer using CUPS? I'm looking at CUPS admin via http://localhost:631/ but add printer doesn't show anything. Also I can't find anything in apt-cache that looks about right. Any help appreciated :-)
[14:47] <EriC^> TJ-: cool
[14:47] <TJ-> batou_: Nothing to do with Microsoft; EFI began with Intel and then was adopted as an industry standard. MS mandated UEFI/SecureBoot as a way to secure their OS from boot-loader exploits
[14:48] <batou_> Fair point. I wanted OpenBoot for the PC to be honest. That worked well
[14:48] <SchrodingersScat> batou_: I'm in xubuntu, but I have a 'Print to File' whenever I go to print.  This was default afaik.
[14:49] <TJ-> batou_: "cups-pdf" ?
[14:50] <batou_> I'm not printing from the UI - using lpr
[14:50] <anttal> hi guys
[14:50] <anttal> anttal@losanttals:~$ echo -n "test" | md5sum output is 098f6bcd4621d373cade4e832627b4f6  -
[14:50] <batou_> TJ-, thank you - I must have waltzed straight past that! It's right there in apt-cache!
[14:50] <anttal> why there is a -
[14:51] <SchrodingersScat> anttal: shorthand for stdin
[14:51] <kokut> anttal: does it bother you?
[14:51] <TJ-> anttal: read "man md5sum" - represents stdin
[14:51] <anttal> kokut yea, im making bash script what salt passwords and send to mysql
[14:52] <kokut> anttal: where are the passwords coming from?
[14:52] <anttal> hallintapassu=`date +%s%N|sha256sum|base64|head -c 10`
[14:53] <anttal> hash="$(echo -n "$hallintapassu" | md5sum )"
[14:53] <batou_> and I have a PDF printer. Thank you TJ- :-)
[14:53] <anttal> then i need to make a php enivroment what uses that data
[14:53] <anttal> so i dont like external markers :/
[14:54] <kokut> anttal: so its for web :) why dont u do it all with php.. ?
[14:54] <anttal> kokut no its bash script
[14:54] <anttal> passwords are generated and stored by bash
[14:54] <anttal> i dont want to make external variable to php to that
[14:55] <anttal> it would be stupid IMO
[14:55] <anttal> is there ez solution?
[14:55] <TJ-> anttal: yes; piipe the output through a sed/awk/cut filter
[14:55] <kokut> anttal: whats bothering you then?
[14:55] <anttal> that "-"
[14:56] <anttal> if i make code that compare hash
[14:56] <anttal> its not rly nice :/
[14:56] <TJ-> anttal:  as in "echo "xxx -" | cut -d\  -f 1 "
[14:58] <anttal> TJ- i love u <3
[14:59] <anttal> is my way to generate password good?
[14:59] <anttal> or md5 hash overall
[14:59] <anttal> they are not bank account but still :D
[14:59] <conall> Hi again guys.
[15:00] <EriC^> hi conall any luck?
[15:00] <conall> Managed to boot into ubuntu
[15:00] <EriC^> cool
[15:00] <conall> The error was "Missing parameter configuration : path"
[15:01] <conall> So I googled it, and at the prompt I typed "help"
[15:01] <conall> and then worked fine
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> conall  what was your issue?
[15:01] <conall> I counldnt boot into ubuntu in bios mode
[15:02] <TJ-> anttal: why not use the system chpasswd tool?
[15:02] <sehnsucht> is the auto-hide being very unreliablea a known issue? I have a more or less fresh install (few days old) and regardless of whether i try `left edge` or `top left corner` i find that sometimes it just ignores me totally and i have to hit super to get it to appear
[15:03] <sehnsucht> this happened a year or two ago on a previous install as well as on this (different) pc so it's not a dodgy install, dodgy hardware etc. i'm using a pretty standard bit of kit
[15:03] <sehnsucht> ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  i take it, you're talking about the task bar?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  in Unity?
[15:04] <sehnsucht> yes, that's it.    and yes.
[15:04] <anttal> TJ- it requires roots?
[15:04] <anttal> i dont want to run script though php on root :O
[15:04] <sehnsucht> sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the left edge sort of glows grey but nothing happens.
[15:05] <sehnsucht> i've learnt some shortcuts now but i had to google on my phone as i could launch no apps with the taskbar gone!
[15:05] <sehnsucht> surely this is simple, basic functionality. it should "Just work".  the mouse.x < 30 so throw the task bar up. how can it not work?
[15:05] <TJ-> anttal: read the man-page; you can configure a ROOT--root  location so it doesn't have to affect "/etc/", if your application is able to use the passwd/shadow file formats
[15:06] <nmatrix9> Anyone here have issues with their Xubuntu mouse cursor being invisible in certain applications?  E.g chrome, java swing applications etc?
[15:06] <TJ-> anttal: The other obvious option, if the PHP is a web application, is to use htpasswd
[15:07] <anttal> TJ- my enivroment needs command line through php
[15:07] <sehnsucht> does it depend on an app having focus, not having focus etc?
[15:07] <anttal> there is things that i need to access
[15:07] <anttal> i have to use bash/php for that
[15:08] <anttal> and every user gon unique privaligies
[15:08] <anttal> *got
[15:08] <TJ-> anttal: OK, but htpasswd generates passwords and files - it is used mostly for generating .htaccess
[15:08] <nmatrix9> sehnsucht, me?  When applications have focus it becomes invisible
[15:09] <nmatrix9> sehnsucht, certain applications
[15:09] <sehnsucht> nmatrix9: sorry, not you. not had your problem, but i've only been back on unbuntu for a couple of days
[15:09] <anttal> this is not ubuntu question
[15:09] <anttal> but
[15:09] <anttal> paattyy=`date --date"+30day" +%Y-%m-%d`
[15:09] <sehnsucht> monkeydust: problem seems worse when top-left corner is selected
[15:09] <anttal> what i have to do to make mysql accept that?
[15:09] <anttal> it only prints 000-00-00
[15:13] <DocMAX2> i cant change Restart= property to always
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> sehnsucht  ok, but desktop effects are the first thing I disable
[15:15] <sehnsucht> monkeydust:  which effects? i've not mentioned - or changed - anything in that respect
[15:16] <MrJones> so why is this bug in a core system management tool from 2004 not fixed in ubuntu? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=239238
[15:20] <TJ-> MrJones: it is in Ubuntu
[15:22] <grteyuh> So I looking at this new text editor called Atom. I see that a lot of the K/B shortcuts are Cmd+<key> or cmd+Alt+<key>. IIRC cmd keys are only available in Mac. Is there a way to do these shortcuts on Ubuntu? Or should the creators of Atom change something?
[15:23] <LibertyWeNeed> What is the command similar to sudo, that gives me all the permissions i need to delete something that just won't go.
[15:25] <OerHeks> MrJones, current is 3.113, 3.52 is more than 10 years old
[15:25] <Guest22922> TJ, i will have the upstart script figured out in less than 10 minutes
[15:25] <Guest22922> testing some cases
[15:25] <grteyuh> LibertyWeNeed: sudo gives permissions ... rm is the command for removing files..
[15:26] <LibertyWeNeed> I mean it's a stronger root command. Instead of saying Sudo apt-get     it's xxx apt-get, but i don't know what the xxx is
[15:27] <LibertyWeNeed> it's a more stronger command
[15:27] <LibertyWeNeed> BUt I have forgetten it
[15:27] <OerHeks> LibertyWeNeed, there is no other command AFAIK
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> LibertyWeNeed  what could be stronger than 'omnipotent'?
[15:28] <OerHeks> Where do you get that info ?
[15:28] <eb0t> maybe your getting confused and the thing you think is a stornger command is just apptitude rather tha apt-get
[15:29] <Guest22922> basically, i need to execute my pre-stop script before the /vagrant directory unmounts during shutdown, since i've defined my custom log files as a subdirectory of /vagrant
[15:30] <Guest22922> so, i'm trying `if [ "$MOUNTPOINT" == "/vagrant" ]; then` in my `pre-stop` stanza
[15:30] <OerHeks> EriC^, tried to find out the diff >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/647207/installation-dependency-problem-solving i am not sure now
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  tye /j #vagrant
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest22922  type /j #vagrant
[15:31] <Guest22922> sometimes it works - most of the time it doesn't
[15:32] <Guest22922> so, i'm going to look in upstart docs if it can detect when a directory gets unmounted
[15:32] <TJ-> OerHeks: you're correct; position of the option ("-f") has no bearing
[15:32] <OerHeks> TJ-, thank you, i wondered earlier on.
[15:37] <BBLLCC> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11861514/
[15:38] <TJ-> BBLLCC: looking
[15:39] <LibertyWeNeed> What's the command to install .deb in the terminal?
[15:39] <TJ-> BBLLCC: confirmed the setting is used "ACPI: Overriding _OS definition to 'Windows 2001'" - line 24030
[15:39] <TJ-> LibertyWeNeed: "dpkg -i"
[15:39] <BBLLCC> TJ-, so there is nothing i can do to fix it?
[15:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: give me chance... I'm just reporting what I find as I go :)
[15:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: line 2409: "[Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored"
[15:44] <MrJones> OerHeks: that bug still seems to be present though
[15:44] <blib> how do I check if my ubuntu box can do bluetooth?
[15:44] <MrJones> I cannot create a user for which a group of the same name exists
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MrJones  sounds reasonable
[15:46] <TJ-> BBLLCC: line 24111 "_OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM" ... so no PCI ASPM available on that PC.
[15:46] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Nothing else to show; so it looks like its a PC/firmware bug for sure
[15:47] <BBLLCC> crap
[15:47] <BBLLCC> but thanks
[15:55] <BBLLCC> TJ-, BIOS has 3 options: windows, mac, other. it is currently on "windows" but xubuntu loads fine. WOuld changingn that be useful?
[15:55] <BBLLCC> OS options I mean
[15:56] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I have no idea; what does that setting control?
[15:56] <BBLLCC> TJ-, just the name of the OS you load... i never noticed any difference
[15:57] <yeats> BBLLCC: rule of thumb: if it's working, leave it alone ;-)
[15:57] <BBLLCC> crappy firmware
[15:57] <BBLLCC> what computers that come with freeware bios are there?
[15:57] <TJ-> BBLLCC: that might affect the ACPI ID, but unless the manual describes what it does it is anyones guess
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC  RMS uses his own custom made BIOS
[16:02] <TJ-> BBLLCC: is that the "Installed OS" setting you refer to?
[16:02] <BBLLCC> MonkeyDust, is there a page for that? I mean freeware bios computers
[16:02] <BBLLCC> TJ-, yes, i thought that was called bios
[16:02] <BBLLCC> o no
[16:02] <BBLLCC> ill copy it next time I log in
[16:05] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I'm not 100% sure I'm looking at the correct user manual - the way Clevo lists the models doesn't precisely match with the model number
[16:06] <TJ-> BBLLCC: It may change the ACPI DSDT presented, so using that *plus* removing the kernel command-line option "acpi_os_name" *may* do something different
[16:08] <BBLLCC> TJ-, im not in the mood to rest, ill let you know when i do it
[16:08] <BBLLCC> reset
[16:08] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I can image :)
[16:08] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I think you'll just have to put up with it
[16:13] <FourFire> Greetings, I am trying to fix issues I have with a BCM4352 AC wireless card on Ubuntu 15.04
[16:13] <FourFire> found this thread so far: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333424/how-can-i-check-the-information-of-currently-installed-wifi-drivers
[16:14] <rockstar_> recently installed ubuntu and its suddenly slow. Compiz started taking 50% cpu. Any suggestion?
[16:14] <OerHeks> !bcm
[16:15] <FourFire> the output for lspci | grep -A2 0280 is "wl"
[16:15] <FourFire> so I "modinfo wl"
[16:15] <FourFire> how do I test it, like toggle it on/off ?
[16:16] <FourFire> problem: I don't have a networking icon in the panel
[16:19] <OerHeks> FourFire, maybe this page is any help, http://askubuntu.com/questions/590442/how-can-i-install-broadcom-wireless-adapter-bcm4352-802-11ac-pcid-14e443b1-r
[16:20] <FourFire> cool, I'll try it
[16:31] <noobsie> How can I change the terminal text size in gnome-session-fallback? In Unity, you right click the terminal window and go to Profile... is there a similar feature in gnome?
[16:33] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: it's in the Settings/Preferences/Interface/Appearance menu
[16:34] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: WAIT that's for HexChat sorry
[16:36] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: Edit/Profiles/   then click on edit to edit 7your selected profile
[16:37] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: it's under the General Tab then
[16:39] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: also as you said ... right click select Profiles then "Profile Preferences"
[16:39] <Raccoon1400> I need to get rid of my separate boot partition. Is there an easy way to do this? It is too small and that is preventing me from updating the system
[16:40] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, you might want to remove unused kernels, much easier
[16:41] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: How do I get to "edit"?
[16:41] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: whatever works. How do I do this?
[16:42] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: doesn't gnome terminal have a menu bar at top ?
[16:42] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: Its a pretty fresh install don't know it had a chance to build up old kernels
[16:43] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: yes, it has a menu bar at the top that says "applications" and "places"
[16:44] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: under Applications there are Accessories, Graphics, Office, System Tools
[16:44] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: OK that's the system menu bar ... hit CTRL+ALT+T to open the terminal
[16:44] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: done!
[16:45] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, if the install is fresh, your manually made /boot is too small, normally the blue line in this post removes them all, except current and the one before that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240697
[16:45] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: now use the gnome terminal menu or right click on terminal window ?
[16:45] <OerHeks> if you need to repartition, you'll need a live cd to do that.
[16:45] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: if I right click the terminal, all I get is options to resize terminal window and workspace options. Unlke Unity, I do not have the option to choose "Profile"
[16:46] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: I'll try that. It was big  enough for previous installs. If the remove old kernels doesn't fix, seems the best way would be to abandon the partition and install the files on the /
[16:47] <OerHeks> Raccoon1400, use gparted to shrink one of the partitions next to /boot, and expand /boot into the newly freed space.
[16:47] <OerHeks> you can easily move the slider
[16:47] <Raccoon1400> OerHeks: I can do that, will take a while to move the next partition though
[16:47] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: are you right clicking on the terminal window or the top pannel ?
[16:48] <Anchor> hi
[16:48] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: If I right click the window itself, not the top panel, I get nothing
[16:48] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: in fact, it tries to highlight the line
[16:51] <ioria> noobsie, are you sure to be in gnome-terminal and not in xterm ? (sorry for asking)
[16:51] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: well sir afraid I can't help then ... I'm using gnome-session-fallback with gnome terminal
[16:52] <noobsie> ioria: I didn't know there was a difference. There is a big x in the icon so I;m assumnig xterm.
[16:52] <ioria> noobsie, type who
[16:53] <noobsie> ioria: type "who" what? It list my username with the dots
[16:53] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: hey have a look at Settings/Appearance and see if "Show the menus for a window"/"In the windows title bar" is checked ?
[16:53] <ioria> noobsie, better, type xterm   if the windows is the same, you are in xterm
[16:54] <noobsie> so how do I get to gnome terminal and set that as a default for when I press ctrl+alt+t?
[16:54] <ioria> noobsie, type gnome-terminal
[16:56] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: I tried that, nothing there that could help
[16:56] <noobsie> ioria: installing gnome-terminal now. Feel really stupid right now. :)
[16:57] <ioria> noobsie, no worries
[16:57] <roelof> s.net
[16:57] <noobsie> ioria & Tex_Nick muhahahah! It works!!! Thanks! :D
[16:57] <ioria> noobsie, great !
[16:58] <Tex_Nick> ioria: good job man I didn't think of it being xterm lol ;-)
[16:58] <ioria> ^o^
[16:58] <HypothesisFrog> is there a way to get a desktop to automatically suspend in 15.04? I want to save power.
[16:59] <Tex_Nick> noobsie: great man ioria got ya going man :)
[16:59] <noobsie> ioria: How can I add some sort of icon to start it?
[16:59] <ioria> Tex_Nick, tx, no one use xterm .... it's archeology :-)
[16:59] <noobsie> Tex_Nick: you tried and I appreciate any response.
[16:59] <ioria> noobsie, a .desktop file on the desktop
[16:59] <Tex_Nick> ioria: LOL ;-)
[17:08] <foobar12> noobsie, in addition to the .desktop file, if you're using fallback, alt + right-clicking on an empty region of one of your panels should bring up a context menu which has an Add Launcher option to add a launcher to the panel; after you have your launcher, if you want to move or remove it, you can alt + right-click on the launcher for a context menu with those options
[17:09] <cofo> How do I download a source code that it's a software?
[17:09] <cofo> like there is man ... I found a github but I'm not sure it's the same one or rebuild
[17:10] <ikonia> cofo: what's the issue ?
[17:11] <cofo> How do I get a source code like CURL?
[17:11] <cofo> Like download it
[17:12] <cofo> I found curl github but i don't know if it's rebuild
[17:12] <ikonia> a rebuild ?
[17:12] <ikonia> cofo: whats the problem you're trying to solve
[17:12] <ioria> maybe git clone
[17:12] <cofo> no
[17:12] <cofo> I want to download curl source code
[17:12] <cofo> The source code is only in github or I can download it from original place?
[17:12] <bekks> cofo: Whats the problem your are trying to solve by downloading the curl source?
[17:12] <ikonia> what do you mean the "original place" ?
[17:12] <foobar12> cofo, if you want to download the source of an ubuntu package, `apt-get source <package name>`
[17:13] <cofo> and where would it save?
[17:13] <ikonia> cofo: what's the problem you're trying to solve
[17:13] <ikonia> lets find out what you need and why
[17:13] <noobsie> foobar12: it works. thanks!
[17:13] <foobar12> no problem
[17:13] <cofo> No why. I want to download it
[17:13] <ikonia> cofo: whats the problem you're trying to solve
[17:13] <ikonia> lets see if we can get you the right info
[17:13] <bekks> cofo: So go to the project homepage of curl and download it.
[17:14] <cofo> Download cURL source code
[17:14] <cofo> But in terminal..
[17:14] <ikonia> cofo: why ?
[17:14] <ikonia> whats the PROBLEM
[17:14] <bekks> cofo: wget.
[17:14] <ikonia> why do you need the curl source code
[17:14] <ioria> wget
[17:14] <cofo> I want to know how Post works
[17:14] <ikonia> "post" ?
[17:15] <foobar12> cofo, `apt-get source <package name>` should download to the current directory
[17:15] <tgm4883> cofo: you would get it from https://github.com/bagder/curl
[17:15] <cofo> I tried it said I need to put source in sources.list
[17:15] <cofo> tgm4883: is that the original one?
[17:15] <ikonia> cofo: I think you are going to create a problem here
[17:15] <tgm4883> cofo: yes, according to the curl website it is  http://curl.haxx.se/dev/source.html
[17:15] <ikonia> lets step back and find out the problem you are trying to solve here
[17:15] <ikonia> you think the solution is to download curl - lets forget that for a moment
[17:16] <ikonia> whats the problem
[17:16] <tgm4883> cofo: but I agree with ikonia, what exactly are you trying to do
[17:16] <cofo> sprry
[17:16] <cofo> I want to make a program to send post
[17:16] <cofo> Because I can't figured out how to use curl with how much requests to send
[17:16] <ikonia> as in a http post request ?
[17:17] <cofo> i made the curl by copying from firefox(lol)..
[17:17] <cofo> I don't wanna do something like curl . curl. curl...
[17:17] <ikonia> I don't think downloading curl source code will help
[17:17] <cofo> I want to do something like curl -times 3
[17:17] <ikonia> that is a specific implimenation
[17:17] <ikonia> cofo: so a simple shell script with curl would allow you to do that
[17:17] <tgm4883> cofo: I think you need to step back even further and tell us what you are trying to post
[17:18] <cofo> Posting on forum
[17:18] <ikonia> so you are trying to spam a forum ?
[17:18] <cofo> no
[17:18] <cofo> Where did I say that?
[17:19] <oscarhbp> wecrack as installed ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <ikonia> I'm asking
[17:19] <ikonia> as to use a curl -3 times indicates multiple posts to a website
[17:19] <ikonia> multiple posts to a forum normall = spam
[17:19] <ikonia> normaly
[17:19] <cofo> it wll works?
[17:19] <ikonia> will what work ?
[17:19] <cofo> curl -3 will send 3 posts?
[17:19] <ikonia> no
[17:19] <oscarhbp> wepcrack as installed ubuntu 14.04
[17:20] <ikonia> and to be honest, I think you're trying to spam a forum, so I'm not going to help with that
[17:20] <cofo> I just want to contribute to my friend forum
[17:20] <ikonia> then open a web browser
[17:20] <ikonia> and post like everyone else
[17:20] <cofo> In my way
[17:20] <ikonia> I don't know what you mean "in your way"
[17:21] <cofo> Why do you investigate so much?
[17:21] <ikonia> to try to give you good help
[17:21] <ioria> cofo to compile from source you'll need probably a lot of stuff. some of those stuff could mess up your ubuntu
[17:22] <cofo> From an experience or what you think?
[17:22] <sixunhuit> Greetings. What are the steps you would take after a hard freeze to troubleshoot?
[17:22] <ioria> cofo both
[17:22] <ikonia> cofo: you do not want the curl source code
[17:22] <cofo> I do want
[17:22] <ikonia> cofo: I suggest you open a browser and use a forum as it is meant to be
[17:22] <cofo> You don't tell me what I want .__.
[17:22] <ikonia> helping you spam a forum is not an #ubuntu issue
[17:22] <ikonia> so I suggest you leave this issue alone
[17:22] <cofo> It's curl issue
[17:22] <ikonia> it's not a a curl issue
[17:22] <ikonia> curl works just fine
[17:23] <cofo> All I ask is how to send X requests
[17:23] <ikonia> and I don't believe it wise to help you
[17:23] <ikonia> as I think you are trying to spam a forum/make false posts
[17:23] <ikonia> and that is not what this channel is for
[17:24] <tgm4883> cofo: in any case, you've already been given the location of the source code and also been told how to do multple posts (run curl multiple times)
[17:24] <cofo> What?
[17:25] <tgm4883> cofo: what what?
[17:25] <bekks> tgm4883: what what what? ;)
[17:25] <cofo> lol
[17:26] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: I would look in /var/log/syslog.1 and see if anything is in there, but I'm thinking probably a kernel panic
[17:27] <cofo> ok nevermind
[17:27] <easyOnMe> anyone here
[17:27] <cofo> hi easyOnMe
[17:27] <sconde> hello, I'm having some issue and was hoping if someone can help
[17:28] <cofo> What is your issue sconde?
[17:28] <tgm4883> sconde: ask
[17:28] <ikonia> just ask your questions
[17:28] <ikonia> if people can help they will
[17:28] <easyOnMe> hi cofo
[17:28] <sconde> I have ubuntu
[17:28] <cofo> Cool
[17:28] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, ok. Any keywords I should be looking for?
[17:28] <sconde> and nvidia driver installed
[17:28] <cofo> You have problem on gpu driver?
[17:28] <bekks> sconde: Try not to use enter for interpunctuation please.
[17:28] <easyOnMe> anyone here who has been a webmaster or web server admin
[17:28] <sconde> but everytime I update, I have to reinstall the driver because my desktop doesnt show up
[17:28] <bekks> easyOnMe: Why?
[17:29] <cofo> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[17:29] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: not sure. I'm not super confident that you'll find anything since it was a hard lock it likely didn't have any time to log anything. But look at the last 10 or so lines
[17:29] <easyOnMe> bekks: because I have website and I just installed wordpress
[17:29] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, thanks. I'm getting those like once a day...
[17:29] <tgm4883> sconde: how did you install the driver?
[17:29] <easyOnMe> but when I do www.websmith.link
[17:29] <DrJ> what is the best way to remote into the active session (what you would see if you were actually sitting at the computer
[17:29] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: hmm, any pattern in them?
[17:29] <cofo> DrJ: VNC
[17:29] <easyOnMe> it says this website is under construction
[17:30] <tgm4883> DrJ: probably something like VNC
[17:30] <cofo> ^
[17:30] <sconde> tgm4883: its from the nvidia install script
[17:30] <__john__> I have a program which needs to communicate a state, which can be described by a single character. I want other programs to be able to get the state when they load and be notified of the state change. What is the best way to do this? (I'm imagining a file in /tmp/, but writing to an actual file seems like overkill and I don't need to save the history of states.)
[17:30] <sconde> a bash script
[17:30] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: sounds like you don't have the apache virtual host setup
[17:30] <DrJ> tgm4883: I figured, any VNC server particular you recommend
[17:30] <easyOnMe> tgm4883: oh so how do I set it up
[17:30] <easyOnMe> can you please help me out
[17:30] <tgm4883> sconde: it's probably not rebuildign the kernel module on update. Why not use the driver in teh repos?
[17:30] <cofo> What is the problem easyOnMe?
[17:30] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: sec
[17:31] <sconde> tgm4883: because I needed the latest version of cuda for some experiment
[17:31] <cofo> sconde: Which  experiment?
[17:31] <sconde> so now I kind of need the software update from ubuntu to not update the nvidia driver
[17:31] <sconde> if that makes sense
[17:31] <sconde> just some cuda codes
[17:32] <tgm4883> sconde: it's not updating it
[17:32] <sconde> I dont follow
[17:32] <easyOnMe> cofo: how do I make my site point to my wordpress
[17:32] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: take a look at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/examples.html
[17:32] <easyOnMe> I just installed wordpress
[17:32] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, may I msg you the pastebnin url of the last few lines?
[17:32] <ikonia> easyOnMe: how did you install wordpress ?
[17:32] <cofo> easyOnMe: redirect it?
[17:33] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: just pastebin it here
[17:33] <sconde> any way I can make the software update not update the nvidia driver?
[17:33] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: the link here I mean
[17:33] <sixunhuit> http://pastebin.com/bNq3E8pf
[17:33] <cofo> A website redirect to website?
[17:33] <foobar12> easyOnMe, you'll need to create a vhost config in /etc/apache2/sites-available using the documentation to which tgm4883 linked
[17:33] <easyOnMe> cofo: when I visit my site
[17:33] <easyOnMe> it says under constructino
[17:33] <cofo> A image would help
[17:33] <cofo> aN*
[17:33] <ikonia> you don't need an image
[17:33] <ikonia> easyOnMe: how did you install ubuntu ?
[17:33] <ikonia> sorry - how did you install wordpress
[17:33] <cofo> LOL
[17:34] <foobar12> easyOnMe, once you have your vhost config set up there, you'll need to enable it with the e2ensite command
[17:34] <tgm4883> sconde: my guess without looking at any logs is that you are updating the kernel when you do the update. That means that a new kernel module needs built for the nvidia driver. This would normally be taken care of by DKMS, but it sounds like the nvidia installer didn't set that up
[17:34] <cofo> ikonia: Is everything okay?
[17:34] <easyOnMe> I uploaded the wordpress files into the public_html folder through ftp
[17:34] <easyOnMe> and then I installed it
[17:34] <ikonia> cofo: everythings fine ? why ?
[17:34] <cofo> everything*
[17:34] <easyOnMe> foobar12: thing is this
[17:34] <ikonia> easyOnMe: ok, so have you setup a site definition in apache to point at that web root ?
[17:35] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, did not notice a pattern but I will start checking my syslog.1. Also, sudo reboot or clicking the reboot button sometimes results in ubuntu logo page with horizontal black lines randomly scattered on the screen (little pixel colors in them).
[17:35] <easyOnMe> I am not using a virtual private server but a regular hosting site
[17:35] <easyOnMe> ikonia: no I have not
[17:35] <ikonia> a regular hosting site ?
[17:35] <sconde> tgm4883: how do I go about checking this?
[17:35] <ikonia> easyOnMe: lets step back a bit
[17:35] <easyOnMe> and I am trying to do that now
[17:35] <ikonia> easyOnMe: is this in a data center, or at home ?
[17:35] <easyOnMe> I am now looking at my control panel
[17:35] <tgm4883> !dkms
[17:36] <ikonia> easyOnMe: who / what are you using for hosting ?
[17:36] <easyOnMe> ikonia: i am using a paid hosting
[17:36] <ikonia> easyOnMe: who ?
[17:36] <tgm4883> easyOnMe: which one
[17:36] <easyOnMe> x3me hosting
[17:36] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: I don't see anything of importance there
[17:37] <easyOnMe> no sorry
[17:37] <easyOnMe> webhostbox.net
[17:37] <baja> hi
[17:37] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what is their URL ?
[17:37] <baja> i want to change destop background
[17:37] <baja> how so i change desktop background
[17:37] <ikonia> easyOnMe: that isn't a live site
[17:37] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: when it locks up, can you get to a terminal by doing ctrl+alt+F1
[17:37] <easyOnMe> ikonia: webhostbox.net
[17:38] <easyOnMe> no mine is a live website
[17:38] <nicholas> guys i have a little problem
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: webhostbox.net
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: that doesn't exist
[17:38] <easyOnMe> I can even see my website when I append the site name of my wordpress
[17:38] <sixunhuit> tgm4883, I'll try next time. But event the mouse is frozen. Suppose I can, what should I do then?
[17:38] <nicholas> i'm on mint 17.2 and my battery life is utterly terrible
[17:38] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what is the URL of the people hosting your website
[17:38] <ikonia> nicholas: then ask the mint support channel to assist you
[17:38] <foobar12> baja: if you're on fallback, just right-click on the desktop to get a context menu with a "Change Desktop Background" option; unity may be the same, I'm not sure, I don't use it
[17:38] <tgm4883> !mint | nicholas
[17:39] <easyOnMe> ikonia: the site address is
[17:39] <easyOnMe> www.websmith.link
[17:39] <ikonia> easyOnMe: is that the name of the people who host your servers ?
[17:40] <tgm4883> ikonia: I think webhostbox.net is suppose to work, but their DNS is broke. IDK
[17:41] <easyOnMe> ikonia: http://www.websmith.link/home/
[17:41] <ikonia> tgm4883: yes, I've just found it
[17:41] <ikonia> webhostbox.net.
[17:41] <easyOnMe> can you please visit the site
[17:41] <ikonia> 162.251.80.27
[17:41] <ikonia> easyOnMe: I can see the site it's under construction
[17:41] <easyOnMe> ikonia: ok so how to I make sure that my wordpress can be seen
[17:41] <easyOnMe> have you tried this link: http://www.websmith.link/home/
[17:41] <ikonia> easyOnMe: you're best move would to be ask webhostbox support how they setup their servers as it looks like it'a a control pannel based sevice
[17:42] <tgm4883> ikonia: according to https://twitter.com/webhostbox it's cpanel or plesk?
[17:42] <noobsie> There is a shortcut ctrl+alt+t opens the terminal, but is it possible to set the working dir for this shortcut as well?
[17:42] <ikonia> tgm4883: yes, looks like a black box type setup
[17:42] <easyOnMe> ikonia: yeah I have the cpanel with me
[17:42] <ikonia> easyOnMe: log a support call to webhostbox and ask them for a guide to setup a new site
[17:42] <easyOnMe> in fact I am looking at it right now
[17:42] <cofo> Hi
[17:42] <easyOnMe> I just do not know where to start
[17:43] <cofo> I wanna install wine and virus. Would it infect the os if it's on live?
[17:43] <cofo> running uubntu live
[17:43] <tgm4883> sixunhuit: should also take a read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[17:43] <ikonia> easyOnMe: log a call to webboxhost and ask them for a guide to setup a new web host
[17:43] <ikonia> easyOnMe: thats the best place to start
[17:43]  * tgm4883 sighs
[17:43] <Langit> hai
[17:44] <tgm4883> cofo: gee, I wonder why nobody wants to help you with your legitimate technical issues /s
[17:45] <cofo> Ah?
[17:45] <cofo> I wanna see if a file is virus
[17:45] <cofo> That's why I wanna run it under wine
[17:45] <cofo> No idea what is wrong with you people today..!!
[17:45] <zaggynl> upload it to virustotal.com or malwr.com
[17:45] <cofo> but i wanna see the update
[17:45] <zaggynl> update?
[17:46] <tgm4883> cofo: you don't need to run a file to determine if it's a virus
[17:46] <ikonia> cofo: you're wasting peoples time with your non-ubuntu dubious activities
[17:46] <ikonia> please stop with it now
[17:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: I don't know how you've got so much patience, I would have bounced this fool long ago
[17:47] <cofo> You are a fool, idiot. I wanna test the file before running it on my system. That's not nice to talk like that even in real life. You should same.
[17:47] <cofo> shame*
[17:47] <xangua> cofo: please don't call names
[17:47] <zaggynl> to answer your original question: it --oh well
[17:47] <tgm4883> ikonia: thank you
[17:48] <cofo> hi
[17:49] <ibouvousaime> Ive tried to boot from an ISO file and I got "Error 60: File for drive emulation must be in one contiguous disk area".  as an error any idea to fix it ?
[17:50] <ibouvousaime> any idea about*
[17:50] <ibouvousaime> how to fix it*
[17:50] <cofo> ikonia: you should not ignore
[17:50] <bekks> ibouvousaime: Which iso are you trying to boot, and are you trying to boot some sort of virtual machine?
[17:50] <ikonia> cofo: ignore what ?
[17:51] <cofo> What I sent to you
[17:51] <ikonia> I'm not interested in answering your personal questions, I'm interested in ubuntu discussion in this channel
[17:51] <ibouvousaime> no Its a fedora ISO with grub4dos
[17:51] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: how is this an ubuntu issue then ?
[17:51] <tgm4883> lol
[17:52] <ibouvousaime> the problem isnt about fedora still
[17:52] <cofo> I wanna know how serious person are you,  seems not.
[17:52] <ibouvousaime> but disk emulation
[17:52] <tgm4883> #ubuntu    support channel for everything!
[17:52] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: it looks like this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:52] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: it looks like you're asking in #fedora #ubuntu #puppy - it looks like a puppy problem with your hypervisor
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> sorry, im a bit discouraged
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> Ive spend awhole day on this
[17:53] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: what OS is the hypervisor ?
[17:53] <tgm4883> ibouvousaime: being discourraged doesn't mean you can spam all the channels
[17:53] <ibouvousaime> puppy
[17:53] <ikonia> ibouvousaime: ok - so you need to work this through in the puppy support channel
[17:53] <ikonia> it's not anything to do with ubuntu
[17:54] <ibouvousaime> well sorry for asking here then
[17:54] <ikonia> no problem
[17:55]  * tgm4883 sees a civil conversation take place about not supporting something here and wonders where he is
[18:00] <DanielCE> Hey guys i got alot of emails in my queue ( i guess someone hacked into one of the clients system)
[18:00] <DanielCE> how do i remove them all?
[18:01] <ash_m> when you run sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ ... does that install the latest versions of each?
[18:02] <ash_m> (in the case of php, the latest of version 5
[18:02] <ikonia> it will install the latest version that your ubuntu version supports
[18:02] <ash_m> ikonia: thanks :)
[18:05] <DanielCE> ?
[18:05] <ikonia> problem DanielCE ?
[18:05] <tonyyarusso> DanielCE: With which MTA?  In postfix you can do 'sudo postsuper -d ALL'.  If you have ANY legitimate mail in there that needs to be saved, you need to do it differently though.
[18:05] <DanielCE> yes but its not recognizer the postsuper command
[18:06] <xar> I'm trying to install an IDE following these steps https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh it's working, but when I look for the IDE in the search bar, I get it's icon displayed without its name. What's wrong, please?
[18:11] <xar> I'm trying to install an IDE following these steps https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh it's working, but when I look for the IDE in the search bar, I get it's icon displayed without its name. What's wrong, please?
[18:15] <coolomatics> xar, i had to start android-studio from the terminal as i tried it
[18:17] <xar> coolomatics, it's working pretty well
[18:18] <xar> coolomatics, but when I look for the ide, i don't get its name displayed
[18:19] <rainbowwarrior> hello how do i disable the overlay scroll bars in Ubuntu 15.04 please ?
[18:20] <coolomatics> xar, right. no real icon and when you add it to the quick launcher it won't work. didn't thought much about that, but just used it from the terminal.
[18:20] <xar> coolomatics, that script does the job, you can pin it to the quick launcher!
[18:21] <xar> coolomatics, it will install it and configure it as a ubuntu app
[18:23] <Tex_Nick> rainbowwarrior: this is for 14.04 but it might apply to 15.04 as well ? ... http://www.itworld.com/article/2698420/disable-overlay-scroll-bars-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[18:24] <rainbowwarrior> Tex_Nick That worked thank you :)
[18:24] <darius93> just a quick question, is there a way to apply a filter to a guest without manually doing it with virsh edit?
[18:24] <Tex_Nick> rainbowwarrior: you're welcome :)
[18:24] <compdoc> what sort of filter
[18:25] <rainbowwarrior> is this a bug in Ubuntu 15.04 as it seems to think my hard drive is full when it ain't ?
[18:26] <darius93> compdoc, network filter
[18:27] <darius93> base on documents ive been reading, they apply it by editing the domain manually, but i do not see a simple way of doing it without editing it manually
[18:28] <tonyyarusso> darius93: I think you need to edit the XML.
[18:28] <yonatan> Not sure if this belongs here, but does anyone know the easiest way to install pypy3 on ubuntu? I can't find it in the repos (trusty).
[18:29] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and it thinks my hard drive is full when it ain't how can i fix this please ?
[18:29] <darius93> tonyyarusso, i know but is there a simple way without having to edit the domain with virsh edit? Unless the nwfilter is applied to new guest created
[18:29] <darius93> rainbowwarrior, what does df -h show?
[18:29] <tonyyarusso> rainbowwarrior: It might be full, but full by inode count, not bytes.
[18:31] <rainbowwarrior> darius93 :- http://pastebin.com/k85c56tN
[18:31] <rainbowwarrior> tonyyarusso ok thank you
[18:40] <TGYoshi> Hey guys, on a fresh ubuntu server (15.04) there are a million python installations, what's the best way to trash them all and just keep 3.4 [or] get every application use the 3.4 version? (pip seems to refuse, e.g.)
[18:41] <Tumbtack> TGYoshi, different programs rely on different python versions
[18:42] <TGYoshi> Isn't for example pip supposed to work properly on 3.4?
[18:42] <TGYoshi> I've also tried aliasing all the python executables to the 3.4 variant, to no avail :P
[18:53] <blib> do people ever use vagrant or some other light weight vm on ubuntu, just to make sure they can replicate the hardware/software combination easily?  Or is it more the usecase of chef/...?
[18:55] <cofo> what is the command to see the path on my terminal?
[18:56] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: pwd ?
[18:56] <cofo> i wrote this: nautilus --browser $pwd and not work
[18:57] <tieinv> $PATH
[18:57] <mr_rm> is it safe if you are fully up to date and you manually set source.list with the next higher release, then do an update and dist-upgrade?
[18:58] <mr_rm> i mean sources.list
[18:58] <dearn> cofo: not sure what you're doing, but it should be $PWD not $pwd
[18:58] <cofo> it's not work :<
[18:59] <blib> is there a mobile ubuntu room somewhere?
[18:59] <cofo> Why caps?
[18:59] <cofo> It worked. Thanks but why caps...
[19:00] <dearn> cofo: it's case sensitive, all path variables like this - in windows as well
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> tieinv: you mean $PWD
[19:00] <cofo> Yes
[19:00] <cofo> Why in capital letters?
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: one is a variable, the other is a command
[19:01] <cofo> variable suppose to be in big letter?
[19:02] <SchrodingersScat> cofo: the command pwd displays it, to use it in a line like that you have to $(pwd) whereas the variable $PWD is set.  Normally system set variables are uppercase, so please don't use all caps when setting your own, thanks.
[19:02] <nmatrix9> anyone have any issues with a disappearing mouse in xubuntu?
[19:03] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: your answer is a bit confused. the answer is simply that it's case sensitive. you COULD override the "command" name by treating it like a variable: export pwd="abc"; echo $pwd
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> nmatrix9: i'm in xubuntu 15.04, no issue
[19:03] <mr_rm> not that it's a good idea
[19:04] <nmatrix9> SchrodingersScat, Actually let me rephrase Iam having issues with the mouse cursor disappearing in certain applications ie. like ocular, chromium, java swing applications
[19:05] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: sorry, override is the wrong word. you could still execute the command and have the env variable with the same name, at the same time. but yeah, bad idea
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> mr_rm: I think a function named pwd would be a little more confusing.
[19:06] <nmatrix9> SchrodingersScat, Ah crap add VLC to that list
[19:06] <mr_rm> SchrodingersScat: yes i agree :)
[19:08] <ioria> nmatrix9, do you have an  "Unknown Display"  in Settings -> Dispaly  ?
[19:09] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: would that be a wireless mouse ?
[19:09] <nmatrix9> ioria: I have digital display
[19:09] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, yes it it's a logitech wireless mouse
[19:10] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, didn't have this issue with KDE
[19:10] <lammpid> Hllo i have problem if i try launch application with user it's launch successfull but if i try launch with root i get error: /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[19:11] <lammpid> with root user not found ruby env path but with simple user found it..
[19:12] <Mr777> If i do rm -ri it will ask for every file/folder before deleting it. So, if I add -f, why doesn't it ask then? Does -f overrule the functionality of -i?
[19:12] <dearn> why run it as root? not really solution but try full path instead
[19:13] <mr_rm> Mr777: the flag "-f" says "never prompt" on the man page so it looks like the answer is: yes.
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> Mr777, yes -f overrides -i, read man rm =) , useful if you set rm -i as an alias
[19:15] <Mr777> Thanks guys
[19:15] <kokut> hi, do i need to update CUPS? i wont be printing anything on this machine
[19:15] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: I'm using a logitech wireless mouse now on this box ... ubuntu 14.04 though ... cursor sometimes just freezes (rarely though), and it seems to be NOT application specific ... what I've done to restore cursor movement is pop the battery out then back in ... works every time ... I KNOW that's NOT the answer you wanted ... but it's it's the only solution I've found so far, your issue might be fifferent though
[19:15] <kokut> can't i just remove CUPS altogether and worry about it later if i ever need it?
[19:16] <eguneys> I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:16] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, willing to try almost anything no matter how illogical it may sound
[19:17] <ioria> nmatrix9, are you updated ?
[19:17] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: hold on let me find my magnifying glass to give you a model no. on this mouse
[19:18] <nmatrix9> ioria, my kernel version?
[19:18] <dearn> kokut: probably a lot of packages depend on cups, every application that has print function so you probably cannot uninstall it
[19:18] <ioria> nmatrix9, yep, the system in general
[19:19] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, Already took out the battery, no effect
[19:19] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: ahhh ok, well sorry man
[19:19] <nmatrix9> Tex_Nick, It's very bizarre because I've googled online and my issue is that it's only certain applications in which I place the mouse cursor in.
[19:20] <kokut> dearn and that also means i should update it..? :\
[19:20] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1387219
[19:20] <dearn> kokut: it should be fine without updating
[19:20] <nmatrix9> ioria, 3.13.0-57-generic
[19:20] <nmatrix9>  how do I find out the overall ubuntu version Iam using 14.*
[19:20] <Tex_Nick> nmatrix9: hmm well the mouse i'm using is a logitech M195, but sounds like completely different issue
[19:21] <kokut> dearn: but it keeps asking every time there is new updates... ill just update it so it stops bothering me
[19:21] <ioria> nmatrix9,  cat /etc/issue
[19:21] <dearn> kokut: why is updating it a problem?
[19:21] <nmatrix9> ioria, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[19:22] <ioria> nmatrix9,  ???
[19:22] <eguneys> ioria: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:22] <nmatrix9> ioria, ?
[19:22] <kokut> dearn: because i never use it and i dont feel like updating software i wont ever use in my life on this machine
[19:23] <timbozeman> I think I installed the wrong version of linux-headers. google says you can boot on old headers with grub, but I can't get my grub to show. Is there a way to switch back to older headers?
[19:23] <ioria> nmatrix9,  well, i miss something... i'm on 14.04.2 and kernel is 3.16.0-43-generic
[19:24] <nmatrix9> ioria, Ah ok I was working with someone in this chan to install that kernel cause my nvidia drivers were messed up
[19:25] <ioria> nmatrix9,  i see.
[19:25] <nmatrix9> ioria, so I guess upgrading to later kernel will be a good idea then?
[19:26] <ioria> nmatrix9,  well, to be updated is good, unless you got specific issues
[19:26] <Mr777> When I open vi, and write something while in insert mode the press backspace it does nothing but keeps moving cursor back instead of deleting.
[19:26] <Mr777> How can I solve this problem? (I think this is a problem, right?)
[19:27] <nmatrix9> ioria, just curious what is the difference between signed-image and generic kernel images?
[19:28] <eguneys> nmatrix9: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:28] <ioria> nmatrix9,  uefi, i think... not sure
[19:28] <nmatrix9> eguneys, ?
[19:28] <eguneys> please help
[19:29] <nmatrix9> ioria, the signing key?
[19:29] <ioria> nmatrix9,  sorta
[19:30] <nmatrix9> ioria, Iam installing 3.19.0-02
[19:30] <EriC^^> nmatrix9: i think they work with grub-efi-amd64-signed or something
[19:31] <ioria> nmatrix9,  that's vivid ...
[19:31] <EriC^^> if you have secureboot enabled you should probably install them
[19:32] <brainwash> Mr777: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296385/backspace-in-insert-mode-in-vi-doesnt-erase-the-character
[19:32] <nmatrix9> ioria, 15.04 wow ok
[19:32] <Mr777> Thanks brainwash
[19:32] <eguneys> brainwash: I can't display '\u03bb' but I can display '\xce\xbb', for more info see http://superuser.com/questions/939312/cygwin-mintty-unicode-doesnt-display-fail-despite-having-dejavu-sans-mono-and-e
[19:32] <nmatrix9> ioria, Is that good or bad in this context?
[19:32] <mr_rm> timbozeman: if you know what version you need, did you try just installing them like: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$version?
[19:33] <mr_rm> timbozeman: usually you would do $(uname -r) in the version part to get your current kernel headers. i just made up that name
[19:34] <ioria> nmatrix9,  good for pointer, bu maybe but for nvidia....
[19:34] <ioria> nmatrix9,  good for pointer, but maybe bad for nvidia....
[19:35] <nmatrix9> ioria, I guess I should try with some baby steps I'll try 3.16 then
[19:35] <Tex_Nick> eguneys: it's usually preferable to just post your question to the channel in general and NOT repetitively to specific users ;-)
[19:35] <ioria> nmatrix9,  ok
[19:40] <timbozeman> mr_rm: I got it to boot on the old headers. I'm not sure how to make it stick though
[19:43] <kyle1232> ss
[19:43] <nmatrix9> ioria, gonna do a reboot wish me luck.
[19:44] <mr_rm> timbozeman: what do you mean "stick"? they aren't going to go anywhere
[19:45] <timbozeman> mr_rm, I can boot off the old working headers, but if I reboot it goes back to the new ones. I'm thinking just apt-get remove the new ones, but I don't wana brick my laptop
[19:45] <sixunhuit> Hi. I closed every other application and ran (tried to) "sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)-dbgsym" during download my system hard freezes.
[19:46] <lionrouge> hi
[19:47] <mr_rm> timbozeman: the headers are just text files with C header code in them. they get used when you compile modules and drivers that need to see kernel data structures and things like that. they aren't runnable and won't change your booting
[19:47] <lionrouge> i have installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop and i have 2 mouse pointers on screen
[19:47] <lionrouge> one is stuck in the center and the other is operational but jitters heavily
[19:47] <lionrouge> how to fix it?
[19:47] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you don't need the headers installed at all unless you're trying to compile something that wants them during the compile process
[19:49] <kokut> lionrouge: u have 2 mouse pointers? lol??
[19:49] <lionrouge> it non lol for me
[19:49] <kokut> lionrouge: twice the fun for u
[19:49] <JustAPerson> When installing ubuntu, how do I either remove an existing LVM group or reuse it? I installed Fedora alongside Windows yesterday, but I'd rather have UBuntu now
[19:49] <energizer> I have a script that I can run with "sh myscript". How can I make it run just typing "myscript" without the "sh"?
[19:50] <ioria> or ./ or copy /usr/bin
[19:50] <timbozeman> mr_rm, interesting! I was trying to get virtual box guestadditions to work initially. Now I just want my computer to work again. I changed the uname -r from 3.13-generic to 3.19-generic and now the mouse and nic card don't work unless I use grub to boot to the older onces
[19:51] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you have a broken vm now? with one of the kernels anyway?
[19:52] <TJ-> energizer: Add a 'shebang' line (line 1) to the script
[19:52] <timbozeman> mr_rm, I'm not messin with the vm anymore. the computer doesn't like one of the kernels. I'd like it to boot and say uname -r = 3.13 again
[19:54] <mr_rm> timbozeman: not sure how broken you are but if you can boot it "somehow" your best bet might be to just back up the data you don't want to lose and start over, restore data afterward :)
[19:54] <timbozeman> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3-19-22-0-generic caused this nightmare :(
[19:55] <mr_rm> timbozeman: hmmm what did you do that for? just curious what you were trying
[19:55] <mr_rm> timbozeman: you might try just doing a full "dist-upgrad"
[19:55] <timbozeman> mr_rm, cause virtualbox was complaining my headers were wrong or something
[19:55] <mr_rm> update and dist-upgrade
[19:55] <TJ-> timbozeman:  hold down the Shift key as soon as power-on self-test is done and the boot-loader (GRUB2) is being loaded, and you'll get the boot manager menu, from there, select Advance sub-menu and then choose an older kernel to boot with
[19:55] <energizer> TJ-: how can i run it from anywhere?
[19:55] <energizer> without ./ or sh
[19:57] <timbozeman> TJ-, thank you. I've got it booted into an older kernel and the computer is working well. How can I make the older one the default and remove the new one?
[19:57] <geirha> energizer: make sure the first line reads #!/bin/sh, that it is executable, then copy it to /usr/local/bin
[19:57] <TJ-> energizer: If the script is a (da)sh script then make first line "#!/bin/sh" ... to avoid needing to specify the current directory ("./<script>") put the script in the system PATH ("echo $PATH") - user scripts can go in "$HOME/bin" or for system-wide "/usr/local/bin/"
[19:59] <TJ-> timbozeman: I'd guess that the kernel that failed to boot may be because additional out-of-kernel-tree modules failed to build, or else the initial RAM disk (initrd.img) weren't created correctly.
[19:59] <sixunhuit> I disabled the sleep after x time because I wasn't able to come back from sleep but now I got frequent hard freezes.
[20:00] <TJ-> timbozeman: most common cause of that is the /boot/ file-system partition running out of space. Check that with "df" and look for a line that ends "/boot" and check there's plenty of available space.
[20:00] <TJ-> timbozeman: If you don't see such a line, look at the line ending / instead
[20:02] <JustAPerson> "Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes."
[20:02] <JustAPerson> is this bad?
[20:04] <energizer> geirha: TJ-: Thanks. Putting it in /usr/local/bin/ worked. (There didn't exist $HOME/bin/.
[20:04] <geirha> energizer: $HOME/bin will be added to PATH if you create it. There's a block in ~/.profile that adds it to PATH if that dir exists
[20:05] <geirha> though .profile is only read when you log in, so you'd have to log in again after creating the dir
[20:05] <geirha> or manually add it to the PATH variable until you do
[20:05] <Harmageddon> Hi! I'm running a USB sound card (Terratec Aureon 7.1) with front and rear speakers attached on Ubuntu 14.04. I managed to get the 4.0 output working, using pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Now, when playing stereo audio files, I get the same sound on front and rear. However, I'd prefer some kind of surround upmixing, a simulated 4.0 surround sound generated from normal stereo audio files. How can I achieve this with Ubuntu?
[20:09] <energizer> geirha: ". ~/.profile" reloaded my .profile and the script works totally. thanks!
[20:18] <TJ-> Harmageddon: For surround-sound upmixing it only requires selecting the correct device profile for the USB device
[20:20] <TJ-> Harmageddon: For my USB 7.1 device ("CM106 Live Sound Device") I select the Profile "Analog Surround 7.1 Output + Analogue Stereo Input"
[20:20] <Harmageddon> TJ-: "Analog Surround 4.0 Output + Analog Stereo Input" results in both front and rear having the same output, at least I don't hear any difference.
[20:20] <sifohp> hello EvryOne :D
[20:20] <TJ-> Harmageddon: And "pactl list short sinks" shows - for that device - "2       alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-surround-71      module-alsa-card.c      s16le 8ch 44100Hz       SUSPENDED"
[20:20] <halfbeing> my home folder is on a separate file system to / but I store some files on the root file system. therefore I need to create a trash folder with the right names and permissions on the root file system for these files. i've forgotten how to do this. can anyone remind me?
[20:23] <ThiagoCMC> hey guys... anyone working with pbuilder-dist around here? I have a question...
[20:24] <TJ-> Harmageddon: You'd need to customise the module stack with a module-remap-sink remix=yes .... type of command-line although that will be quite CPU intensive
[20:26] <blib> has anyone installed ubuntu on a recent cell phone here?
[20:26] <bubbasaures> !touch | blib, Closest is touch
[20:27] <ThiagoCMC> about pbuilder, currently, I created a tarball by running: "pbuilder-dist trusty create", then I added a "PPA Dependency" inside my "trusty" image. Now, I need another "tarball" of trusty but, without the PPA... So, how to manage 2 "trusty" with "pbuilder-dist" ?
[20:35] <allen> good day folks, can someone offer me hand getting my cpu to stop throttling down, i have tried using cpufreq-set and thought i had it set to performance mode but its still dropping. I am on Ubuntu with XFCE.
[20:38] <mr_rm> allen: i was curious so i googled. have you seen this page?  https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
[20:40] <allen> mr_rm yes i have seen that, have the utils installed but either i am doing something wrong or it isn't working, something keeps throttling it stil
[20:40] <canonprinter> I have this program (Lightshot) that I'm successfully running through Wine, but there's an issue - I want to change some settings for the program, so I looked up how to do it. Lightshot instructions say that you need to locate the Lightshot icon in the System Tray
[20:40] <canonprinter> Anybody know the eqivilant of the system tray for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <allen> what DE Canon
[20:41] <canonprinter> equivalent*
[20:41] <allen> i had to mess around with getting the systray working in xfce
[20:41] <mr_rm> allen: when you run "cpufreq-info" what governor does it show as running?
[20:41] <allen> mr_rm one sec
[20:42] <allen> how do i know which one is being used
[20:43] <allen> ondemand i think is the one its using
[20:43] <abs25> hello
[20:43] <mr_rm> that page i linked to tells you, there will be a line
[20:44] <abs25> opening localhost only shows some files, when I mannualy type path it says I do not have permission to acces that folder (web dev, apache)
[20:44] <mr_rm> The governor BLAH may decide...
[20:44] <allen> canon, which desktop environment you running, if its XFCE i can give you a link to sorting the tray issue i solved it last night
[20:44] <allen> mr_rm then its ondemand then :)
[20:45] <mr_rm> allen: i guess that's your problem. you didn't configure it with performance, at least you didn't follow the instructions to make it permanent (also on that page)
[20:45] <mr_rm> allen: i don't have any expertise in this area, i'm just reading :)
[20:47] <cofo> jo
[20:47] <cofo> hi
[20:47] <allen> mr_rm i don't see how to make it permanent, sadly i know enough to be dangerous lol .
[20:47] <cofo> i wrote script and make a variable like tmp = "text" and also then curl -$tmp..
[20:47] <cofo> it gives me command not found
[20:48] <Guest43657> cofo: lose the whitespace around the equal sign...
[20:48] <cofo> What?
[20:49] <cofo> Why?
[20:49] <Guest43657> because that's how the shell syntax works
[20:49] <cofo> :<
[20:49] <Guest43657> you're executing "temp" with parameters "=" and "text" there
[20:49] <cofo> I don't understand why
[20:49] <Guest43657> which naturally does not exist
[20:49] <cofo> so it check what after the space?
[20:50] <Guest43657> an assignment is always var=something
[20:50] <cofo> what after the equal sign?
[20:50] <cofo> :<
[20:50] <cofo> this bash
[20:50] <Guest43657> yes, in bash, and anything that's remotely POSIX-compatible
[20:50] <cofo> WHY WINDOWS HAS NO MAN
[20:51] <mr_rm> windows IS the man!
[20:51] <TJ-> cofo: "man bash" then  "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:51] <Guest43657> a statement like "var = text" will execute the command "var" with parameters "=" and "text", as already explained
[20:51] <cofo> yea i see
[20:51] <cofo> Then what
[20:51] <Guest43657> you don't want this, obviously
[20:51] <Harmageddon> TJ-: If I understand module-remap-sink correctly, it maps the same number of channels from one sink to another? All use cases I can find are splitting output on two sinks.
[20:51] <Guest43657> you want variable assignment, which is var=...
[20:51] <cofo>  man bash "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:52] <cofo> nothing
[20:52] <QuestionMark> i have a laptop with the screen broken, can i install ubuntu with a external monitor ?
[20:52] <cofo> i think yes
[20:52] <cofo> with hdmi cable or something
[20:52] <Guest43657> cofo: that wasn't a command to be ran verbattim
[20:52] <MarcW> Hi, can someone explain me why I can choose to encrypt my "home folder" at install, even if I chose whole disk encryption with LVM just before? Isn't it redundant?
[20:52] <cofo> oh
[20:52] <EriC^^> cofo: type man bash then type "/^PARAMETERS"
[20:52] <allen> mr_rm ok i have all 4 cores showing performance now
[20:52] <Guest43657> you were supposed to execute man bash and manually input /^PARAMETERS after that
[20:52] <rod> MarcW: great find- - you you file a report?
[20:52] <allen> lets hope it holds this time
[20:52] <mr_rm> allen: i guess a reboot will tell  :)
[20:53] <cofo> ye i understand but how it works
[20:53] <allen> no NEVER rebooting lol
[20:53] <Guest43657> I don't understand your question
[20:53] <cofo> QuestionMark: i answered you
[20:53] <TJ-> Harmageddon: I'm not privvy to the details but so far as I can tell I'm getting full 7.1 surround-sound mixing for a stereo input. That may just be CL=RL=LEFT, CR=RR=RIGHT; it is generally the responsibility of the application to generate the surround effects itself - that would be VERY CPU-intensive for the pulseaudio daemon
[20:54] <cofo> That's how I believe... You connect the external and then do some keyboard shortcut if you got. I believe it should be fine
[20:54] <QuestionMark> with hdmi ? 'm gonna use VGA cable
[20:54] <QuestionMark> with hdmi ? 'm gonna use VGA cable cofo
[20:54] <cofo> Yea it doesn't matter
[20:54] <cofo> I believe it gonna be fine
[20:54] <cofo> You should try if you want or something
[20:54] <QuestionMark> thanks
[20:55] <cofo> I mean you knew the answer
[20:55] <TJ-> QuestionMark: Possibly, but the problem will be selecting the Primary display at boot/config time, since the default will be the LVDS TFT
[20:55] <QuestionMark> ok TJ
[20:56] <cofo> I can say it depends on the brand laptop because i just google
[20:56] <TJ-> QuestionMark: It depends on the graphics GPU - many very old Intel especially could only clone displays - in that case it'll work. But for most GPUs the outputs are totally independent and would need some manual intervention early in the boot process.
[20:57] <MarcW> rod: are you serious?
[20:58] <cofo> sorry for not google but is there manual for c programming laguage in linux man?
[20:58] <TJ-> MarcW: encrypting volumes isn't the same as encrypting a user's home directory; one doesn't imply the protection of the other
[20:58] <EriC^^> cofo: man 2 <something>
[20:58] <cofo> i know there is man printf
[20:58] <EriC^^> cofo: sorry man 3 <something>
[20:59] <EriC^^> cofo: there's xman, then choose the section you want
[21:00] <TJ-> cofo: on the command-line you can do "whatis <something>" to find man-pages; e.g. "whatis printf"
[21:00] <MarcW> TJ-: when Ubuntu ask if it should encrypt home folder, is it talking about "/home" or ~ ?
[21:00] <nicomachus> what does .old-dkms appended to the end of a initrd file in /boot mean?
[21:00] <cofo> nvm
[21:00] <nicomachus> full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863433/
[21:01] <TJ-> MarcW:  "~" aka $HOME
[21:01] <mr_rm> if you're doing "whatis printf" you should probably start by reading a book about C
[21:01] <cofo> lol
[21:02] <cofo> I know it's about printing.. I just gave an example. A man for pointers possibly exsist?
[21:02] <mr_rm> same thing with pointers... this is just basic C language stuff
[21:02] <mr_rm> learning C from man pages is going to be VERY painful
[21:02] <cofo> ok
[21:02] <cofo> I just lazy to continue reading
[21:02] <cofo> :<
[21:02] <mr_rm> then C is probably not for you
[21:03] <mr_rm> just sayin'
[21:03] <nicomachus> lol
[21:03] <cofo> :<
[21:04] <cofo> I like C
[21:04] <TJ-> cofo: "sudo apt-get install c-cpp-reference"
[21:04] <JustAPerson> When installing Ubuntu to dualboot with Windows, should I reusing the existing windows EFI partition? Ubuntu is apparently trying to create a new one http://i.imgur.com/aThAGOi.png
[21:04] <geirha> is it about the bash builtin printf command, or the C function?
[21:06] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Abort that! The installer needs to reuse the existing ESP
[21:06] <cofo> TJ-: how to i run it
[21:07] <TJ-> cofo: Run what?
[21:07] <nicomachus> nvm, looks like there's a bug report for it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717584
[21:07]  * mr_rm believes cofo is trolling
[21:07] <Harmageddon> TJ-: Sounds logical. Do you know a music player for ubuntu that is able to do that? Or do I have to manually upmix my audio files?
[21:07] <cofo> did it add to manual?
[21:08] <geirha> cofo: dpkg -L c-cpp-reference   # lists what files the package installed
[21:08] <cofo> thank you
[21:08] <TJ-> Harmageddon: All my audio plays over the 7.1 when that's the device in use, and almost all the sources are stereo, so it must be handled by pulseaudio as part of the surroundsound profile
[21:10] <TJ-> nicomachus: I've *never* seen Ubuntu create those /boot/*.old-dkms files, is that some Debian-specifiv initramfs-tools hook?
[21:10] <nicomachus> nope... just regular old Ubuntu.
[21:11] <nicomachus> TJ-: I don't seem to be alone: https://askubuntu.com/questions/616512/purging-old-kernels-fails-to-remove-old-initrd-files/647311#647311
[21:12] <igui> hi
[21:13] <cofo> Hi igui
[21:14] <TJ-> nicomachus: That's really weird; I've never seen that and I've worked on the DKMS source-code. We have kernel installation hooks (/etc/kernel/*/dkms) but nothing in initramfs-tools
[21:14] <Harmageddon> TJ-: Same here, but as mentioned with the behavior, that FL==RL and FR==RR
[21:15] <TJ-> Harmageddon: Yes, I think that's what is expected. What else can pulseaudio do; it has no awareness of what the application intended
[21:16] <nicomachus> TJ-: well then... idk. lol. I'm going to purge them.
[21:16] <nicomachus> unless you want me to dig.
[21:16] <TJ-> nicomachus: Have you ever had a Debian installation on the PC too
[21:17] <nicomachus> TJ-: Never. Windows and Ubuntu only.
[21:17] <nicomachus> I think I booted a lubuntu live cd once.
[21:17] <EriC^^> maybe it's a virtualbox thing? just a wild guess
[21:18] <nicomachus> EriC^^: never had vbox on this pc either.
[21:18] <TJ-> nicomachus: found it in the source... let me read up on why it happens
[21:18] <nicomachus> also, screw whoever has ericr. hard to autocomplete EriC^^ without just typing the whole name anyway. lol
[21:19] <EriC^^> lol
[21:19] <EriC^^> you can adjust the tab-completion so it uses the last active nick
[21:20] <nicomachus> done.
[21:20] <EriC^^> :D
[21:21] <JustAPerson> Does primary versus logical partition matter when installing separate /boot / /home and swap partitions?
[21:21] <TJ-> nicomachus: "cp -f "$initrd_dir/$initrd" "$initrd_dir/$initrd.old-dkms" " ... it looks like that happens when dkms's make_initrd() shell script function fails to detect that the host distro uses initramfs-tools ... so that suggests its a failure or race condition of some sort
[21:22] <nicomachus> it's always racism...
[21:23] <Tex_Nick> JustAPerson: if you're segrating home, then you might want to do it on a primary partitiopn
[21:24] <bubbasaures> JustAPerson, in general, no.
[21:25] <eb0t> hey if i install openvpn on one machine
[21:25] <TJ-> nicomachus: OK, I see why. If the next boot is good that file is deleted; if the boot fails, the file is supposed to be reverted to the .old
[21:25] <eb0t> will i be able to test it with an openvpn client on another machine on the same subnet
[21:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: interesting... I guess I probably haven't rebooted since -57 installed
[21:26] <TJ-> nicomachus: what's weird is I can find no code that is triggered to remove those files
[21:27] <nicomachus> autoremove doesn't do it?
[21:27] <nicomachus> like, on a delay after the reboot?
[21:28] <nicomachus> otherwise, ghost code.
[21:28] <_cb> Just bought a Logitech h110 headset. Audio works ok but when I use the sound recorder it plays back static. Ubuntu 12.04
[21:30] <JustAPerson> Okay, and this is the correct choice to install Ubuntu alongside the Windows in the UEFI partition, right? http://i.imgur.com/xpSMsiL.png
[21:33] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: press on the efi sda2 can you select it as the efi partition?
[21:33] <EriC^^> dont select to format it though in the checkbox
[21:33] <TJ-> nicomachus: I see nothing that touches those files in the entire dkms source, aside from the lines that create the files and surrounding comments
[21:34] <nicomachus> TJ-: And so I revert to the likeliest option: Ghost code.
[21:34] <EriC^^> that's from the movie irobot, right?
[21:34] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: what do you mean? I can select that entry in the list
[21:34] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: try double clicking on it and see if you can select it as the efi partition
[21:35] <EriC^^> or maybe set the mountpoint to /boot/efi
[21:35] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Everything looks good there; notice that "Device for boot loader installation" is correctly set to "/dev/sda2 Windows Boot Manager"
[21:36] <foobar12> how do you downgrade 14.04.2 to 14.04.1 or plain 14.04?
[21:36] <TJ-> JustAPerson: /dev/sda2 is fat32, 104MB, so that will be the EFI System Partition (confusing that Gparted doesn't correctl name it!)
[21:36] <JustAPerson> EriC^^, TJ-: do you mean changing from fat32 -> efi like this? http://i.imgur.com/ac7Q5Js.png
[21:37] <JustAPerson> or should I leave it fat32
[21:37] <bubbasaures> foobar12, No downgrading system wide.
[21:37] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: i mean to double click it and select it as the efi partition
[21:37] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: what happens if you double click on sda2?
[21:37] <CatMerc> Hi! Kind of new to Linux, and I was wondering about a simple script I wrote. In short, whenever I move files with the mv command, there's a short delay before it's shown in the GUI. Is it because the mv command takes that long, or is it a purely visual delay?
[21:38] <TJ-> JustAPerson: EriC^^ hang on! That looks to be a problem. I don't think changing /dev/sda2 type is a good idea, if it showed as 'fat32' before you began making changes
[21:38] <foobar12> bubbasaures, thanks... it'd be nice if canonical could just announce on their download page that they completely broke a particular version for use with vbox before people waste hours downloading, installing, configuring things, and then trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with guest additions
[21:38] <EriC^^> TJ-: not the type, just so the installer knows it's the efi partition, i don't think the one at the bottom matters that much for uefi installs
[21:39] <JustAPerson> TJ-: Ok i'll  revert the change
[21:39] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: what happens when you double click on it? can you screenshot that?
[21:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: I does! That is the device passed to "grub-install" !
[21:39] <EriC^^> TJ-: what about /etc/fstab?
[21:39] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: one moment, it's very slow to rescan my disks
[21:39] <bubbasaures> foobar12, I would prefer it rain polkadots and moonbeams, either is about equal to happen. ;)
[21:39] <TJ-> JustAPerson: How many disk drives has the system got? I see /dev/sdb graphic along the top but the list box only shows us /dev/sda
[21:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: cause when you double click on it i think you can select it as the efi partition, or select it's mountpoint to be /boot/efi which is the same i guess
[21:40] <TJ-> EriC^^: fstab will be written based on these choices, not the other way around.
[21:40] <JustAPerson> TJ-: sda is an SSD, sdb/sdc are HDDs and sdd is my liveusb
[21:40] <foobar12> bubbasaures, yeah, unfortunately... thanks again though
[21:40] <nmatrix9> daftykins, you awake?
[21:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: i mean maybe the installer uses that choice for what to write to fstab..
[21:41] <TJ-> JustAPerson: And you're putting Linux's /boot/ file-system on /dev/sda5 deliberately, but the rest of the install on /dev/sdb ?
[21:41] <bubbasaures> foobar12, I would say though that if you were unaware of any downgrade info, I would doubt you've not made some user errors. Consider thought before making emotional statements.
[21:42] <JustAPerson> TJ-: that's what I was going to try. Should I just put everything on /dev/sdb?
[21:43] <TJ-> EriC^^: my concern is that the "Type" field is unclear as to its purpose... is it the file-system type (fat32/ntfs/ext4 etc) ... if so, what the heck does "efi" mean, if it is allowed to change that. And, if "efi" in fact means "ESP" then why is it not already displaying it as that since the partition will already have the ESP GUID
[21:43] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Give us a few minutes to discuss this; I have a feeling you could make a mistake here and live to regret it
[21:44] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think the installer doesn't use the one at the bottom for uefi installs, cause i vaguely remember somebody saying he chose another /dev/sda and it still installed to his other disk
[21:45] <EriC^^> and overall i have a feeling that the installer uses that efi type as which partition to use as the efi partition
[21:45] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Regarding the /boot/ partition I'd suggest purely from a keeping-everything-Linux-in-the-same-place standpoint to put /boot/ on the same disk as the rest of the OS... I don't think having kernel and initrd on SSD will make a significant speed gain on boot ... if the Linux root file-system were on SSD you would see a faster booter.
[21:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: Last time I looked at the Ubiquity (installer) code it does use that setting explictly for the EFI boot-manager target device
[21:48] <EriC^^> TJ-: so it does grub-install -efidiretc. thatpartition/EFI as the path to efi dir?
[21:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: precisely
[21:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: which is why I'm concerned that the list-box shows /dev/sda2 as "fat32" rather than "efi" if that really is the EFI system Partition.
[21:50] <EriC^^> how does it build fstab? maybe setting it as efi type is like setting the mountpoint to /boot/efi so it knows what to mount?
[21:50] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Did you use "Try Ubuntu" and then start the installer from the desktop icon?
[21:50] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes
[21:50] <TJ-> EriC^^: fstab is auto-generated at the end of install once most of the chroot installation is complete
[21:50] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Fab! :) ... can you open a terminal and type some commands for us?
[21:51] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes :)
[21:51] <EriC^^> TJ-: how does it know to mount that efi partition though?
[21:51] <TJ-> JustAPerson: I can't remember the hot-key sequence now... something like Ctrl+Alt+T I think
[21:51] <JustAPerson> that's correct
[21:53] <TJ-> EriC^^: A UEFI system can have only one ESP (on the first disk in the enumerated disks) ... it has a unique GUID in the GPT. If it has a valid file-system it will be used by the installer, and greb-install will generate /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi (on non-SecureBoot) or copy in the grubx64.signed.efi for SecureBoot
[21:53] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Does the PC also have a network connection so we can use pastebin?
[21:53] <JustAPerson> TJ-: yes. I'm only using one computer at the moment
[21:54] <TJ-> JustAPerson: OK... lets install the pastebin helper " sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:54] <JustAPerson> donne
[21:55] <TJ-> JustAPerson: next, we'll ensure it has booted in UEFI mode: "pastebinit <(ls /sys/firmware/efi/)"
[21:55] <JustAPerson> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863653/
[21:57] <TJ-> JustAPerson: that confirms it is a UEFI boot, good. Now let's look at the partition tables on the disks: "pastebinit <(parted /dev/sda print)"
[21:58] <JustAPerson> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863667/
[21:58] <EriC^^> TJ-: so the installer uses the efi partition's type to know which one to mount? or it uses the selection at the bottom?
[21:58] <EriC^^> i guess it uses the selection at the bottom, for it to make sense
[21:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: It sets the default selection based on discovering an ESP.
[21:59] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Good, it's a GUID Partition Table (GPT) disk label, and /dev/sda2 *is* the EFI System Partition (ESP)
[22:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: so what if you choose a different disk to install to? like a usb disk for example?
[22:00] <EriC^^> it wouldn't install to your selected disk? and it would use the default selected on in /etc/fstab?
[22:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: I think you're able to override the default selection
[22:00] <EriC^^> maybe that's the efi type in that table?
[22:00] <stanreg> Does the "default" ubuntu install create a swap partition?
[22:01] <EriC^^> or does the bootloader at the bottom override it?
[22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: yes, whatever you select at the partitioner/boot-loader stge controls what is written to the installed /target/etc/fstab
[22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: The bootloader choice at the bottom of that window is the only way to select the boot loader device
[22:02] <TJ-> EriC^^: On a BIOS/MBR boot that'd just list the raw devices /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[22:03] <TJ-> JustAPerson: OK ... getting back to your installer partitioning.... The "Device for boot loader installation" should be "/dev/sda2 Windows Boot Manager".  You should *not* make any change to the Type of /dev/sda2 in the list box though
[22:04] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Other than my suggestion about whether to but /boot/ on sda or sdb, that's a personal choice for you but won't affect things (unless sda ever fails in which case the Linux install won't have a boot-loader at all)
[22:05] <JustAPerson> TJ-: well earlier I set it to efi. I restarted the installer and it's still listed as efi
[22:05] <JustAPerson> should I manually change it back to fat32?
[22:05] <wickedcode> stanreg: Yes I believe it does
[22:05] <TJ-> JustAPerson: That's what I'd expect it to show, "efi" ... is it possible that earlier you had changed to show "fat32" without realising the implication?
[22:06] <TJ-> JustAPerson: assuming you've not saved the partitioning changes to /dev/sda at all, then if that shows /dev/sda2 as "efi" that is what I'd expect to see
[22:06] <EriC^^> TJ-: it needs to be set to efi, otherwise the installer will complain that there's no efi partition, even if it's set at the bottom as the bootloader location
[22:07] <EriC^^> just tried it in a vm, i had to check, had a hunch
[22:07] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: you need to double click on it, and select use as .. efi partition
[22:07] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes... but my concern is that it was *showing* fat32 in the first place. JustAPerson has restarted the installer and it does show "efi" so I'm suspected it was manually altered to "fat32" last time around
[22:08] <JustAPerson> EriC^^: that's what I did earlier when it changed from FAT32 -> efi. I restarted the installer and it still shows efi
[22:08] <TJ-> JustAPerson: as it stands now that will be OK.
[22:08] <JustAPerson> TJ-: it may be worth mentioning that I installed fedora 22 yesterday but removed those partitions earlier today. Perhaps fedora left things in a state that was a little weird or the installer to recognize?
[22:08] <nmatrix9> Don't understand why I can't install nvidia drivers on vivid
[22:08] <JustAPerson> TJ-: all righty
[22:09] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Yes, anything is possible and for a quiet life lets just blame Fedora :)
[22:09] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, likely your nvidia card is too old, or too new
[22:09] <JustAPerson> TJ-: If I put / /boot and /home all on the same drive, should I bother making separate partitions? Or should I just make a / and swap partition
[22:09] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone know how I would stream/play a url to a dlna smart tv using Ubuntu?  I can do it with BubbleUPNP on android simply by creating a playlist entry pointing to a url serving a file, The gnuupnp-av controls for linux is great but can only play files.  I wonder if perhaps I could create a blank file with say the .mp4 extension and had the url in the file in some way... Any thoughts?
[22:10] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks I still see drivers for it on the nvidia site
[22:10] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, what card exactly? or what driver does suit the card, maybe xorg edgers contains the driver version
[22:11] <TJ-> JustAPerson: personally I'd create a single LVM volume and then create the file-systems inside it as Logical Volumes. That provides a lot of future flexibility especially if you leave some free space in the LVM Volume Group - that allows you to extend or create new LVs at will
[22:11] <Paddy_NI> I remember years ago I could do this using a .aspx file to play content on the xbox 360 using uShare during the early days of the consoles life
[22:11] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks: Geforce 550 Ti GTX
[22:12] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, that card is supported from 270 and up
[22:13] <JustAPerson> TJ-: can that be done in this installer? I only see the options to create a partition as a certain fs like ntfs/ext4 etc
[22:14] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Hmmm, not sure actually, I thought the Guided Partitioning offered it; not sure about manual
[22:14] <JustAPerson> TJ-: you can select to encrypt/use LVM if you wipe the drive in the previous installer step. Oh well, this should be fine for now
[22:15] <TJ-> JustAPerson: I know the server installer does but its a long time since I used the Ubuntu Desktop installer
[22:15] <nmatrix9> 0erHeks0, ok thought so, brb gotta reboot
[22:15] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Yes... go with what you have, the main thing is, I think, to keep /home/ separate
[22:16] <JustAPerson> TJ-: all righty. And logical v. primary partitiions aren't too important right?
[22:16] <UbuntuNewbie> Hello!
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> JustAPerson  mind: max 4 primary partition... creatore more partitions inside a logical partiton
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> create more*
[22:17] <TJ-> JustAPerson: Are you using MBR partitioning on /dev/sdb then, not GPT?
[22:17] <UbuntuNewbie> Anyone mind helping me with an issue regarding Ubuntu 15.04 - I'm a little stuck on secure ftp connections
[22:18] <TJ-> JustAPerson: But logical partitions are fine
[22:18] <JustAPerson> TJ-, MonkeyDust: `parted /dev/sdb print` reports it has a gpt
[22:18] <TJ-> JustAPerson: in which case you can't have logical :) .... GPT supports, by default, 128 partitions
[22:18] <UbuntuNewbie> Anyone?
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> !ask | UbuntuNewbie
[22:19] <UbuntuNewbie> !patience
[22:19] <stanreg> wickedcode: ty
[22:19] <UbuntuNewbie> !ask
[22:20] <JustAPerson> TJ-: cannot make logical partitions? okay lemme recreate these as primary then
[22:21] <TJ-> JustAPerson: if the disk is GPT then there is no such thing as logical, I can't understand the partitioner allowing it!
[22:21] <valentinmu> hello guys. i changed driver to opensource for ati card and my screen resolution dropped to 1024x768
[22:21] <valentinmu> xrandr says that this is the only mod eavailable
[22:22] <UbuntuNewbie> I've got sftp setup on my Ubuntu server; however, when trying to connect to it from the filezilla client but the connection stalls and fails to connect. Any advice?
[22:24] <TJ-> valentinmu: The available modes are provided by the monitor sending an EDID packet to the GPU, if that is corrupt/non-existent then the driver had to assume only safe modes. Check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:26] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sup?
[22:27] <nmatrix9> daftykins, just updated my kernel to 3.19. I still have full screen, but when I try to install nvidia, good ol screen appears.  I'am trying to go through our logs and figure what was the essence  of the problem that was screwing up my resolution?
[22:28] <daftykins> nmatrix9: if you're on 14.04, why install 3.19?
[22:28] <nmatrix9> daftykins, reason I updated was because I was following advice to update my kernel to resolve disappearing cursor issues in xubuntu where my cursor disappears in Chromium and whole host of other applications.
[22:29] <daftykins> ah interesting
[22:29] <daftykins> well for some reason you had bumblebee installed, which is an old method of getting intel + Nvidia hybrid solutions working, so that was ruining everything
[22:30] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I checked I don't have bumble installed
[22:30] <daftykins> you might need to purge and reinstall the driver now that you have the new kernel installed
[22:30] <daftykins> you should also be booted into the 3.19 whilst installing the nvidia package
[22:31] <nmatrix9> daftykins, yeah Iam, I did a apt-get purge nvidia*, removed my old kernels and reinstalled but then the issue appears.  The only time issue disappears is when I uninstall the nvidia drivers!
[22:32] <nmatrix9> daftykins, after the purge did a dpkg -l | grep nvidia just for sanity check
[22:32] <daftykins> nmatrix9: yeah 'cause it reverts to the open source nouveau driver and all works well with that one, ok... run "sudo apt-get clean" to kill any cached packages, then try installing it again. when it installs it should be obvious which kernel it's generating a module for
[22:32] <UbuntuNewbie> I need help binding an ip to a domain if anyone can help me out on that
[22:33] <valentinmu> TJ-: here is log http:/pastebin.com/SiJFEBCN
[22:33] <valentinmu> TJ-: here is log http://pastebin.com/SiJFEBCN
[22:33] <daftykins> UbuntuNewbie: that's a question on DNS and hosting, nothing ubuntu related at all
[22:34] <c_smith> soooo.... anyone else having issues getting stuff from the vivid series in ppas?
[22:34] <UbuntuNewbie> Okay, could you maybe point me in the right direction? I've been google searching it for the past few hours but I keep getting older version of Ubuntu / goDaddy related articles
[22:34] <nmatrix9> daftykins, done but when I do a sudo apt-get clean and when I do a sudo apt-cache search "NVIDIA binary driver"
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I still see nvidia drivers
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863819/
[22:35] <daftykins> you don't need sudo to apt-cache search
[22:35] <nmatrix9> daftykins, habit
[22:35] <TJ-> valentinmu: There are lots of errors in there "(EE)" due to the fglrx and radeon drivers and possibly booting with "nomodeset" too, and there seems to be a bare "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" too that would be better off moving out the way too
[22:36] <daftykins> apt-cache search is what's available, 'clean' just deletes the already downloaded local packages - freeing up some disk space
[22:37] <ubuntumate> hi
[22:37] <nmatrix9> daftykins, ok let me do a reinstall and reboot and I'll get back to ya
[22:37] <ubuntumate> i want to start a prog without the text in the terminal
[22:37] <daftykins> nmatrix9: i have to head off as i have a guest this week, but if you show someone a pastebin of "apt-get install nvidia-331" it should show if it's generating a module for the 3.19 kernel or not
[22:38] <nmatrix9> daftykins, Ok I will
[22:38] <valentinmu> TJ-: nomodeset option was added by me, but with no result. do you recommend to move xorg.conf away?
[22:38] <ubuntumate> pls help me
[22:38] <ubuntumate> lol
[22:39] <TJ-> valentinmu: with "nomodeset" there is no DRI kernel interface, which is causing the radeon driver to fail, so Xorg falls back to a plain framebuffer (FB) driver which defaults to 1024x768
[22:39] <ubuntumate> i start prog in terminal but then lot of text
[22:39] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, that sounds normal, when you start a gui app from terminal
[22:40] <ubuntumate> there is a option, that skip the text
[22:40] <ubuntumate> i can hide it
[22:40] <valentinmu> TJ-: rebooting now without that option :)
[22:40] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, there is ? than you answered you r own question.
[22:41] <valentinmu> TJ-: but resolution is still same :(
[22:41] <ubuntumate> mumble -shownotextthen
[22:41] <ubuntumate> you know?
[22:42] <ubuntumate> omg that a simple question
[22:42] <ubuntumate> haha
[22:42] <OerHeks> ubuntumate, normally one would start an gui app from menu, with a .desktop starter
[22:43] <ubuntumate> that is maybe for beginners
[22:43] <TJ-> valentinmu: I said, you still need to fix the problems with the remains of the fgrlx driver reporting errors. Look in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" now and focus on the "(EE)" error reports
[22:43] <valentinmu> TJ-: in log i still see EE's complaining about fglrx module and non-existent /dev/dri/card0
[22:43] <ubuntumate> that is fun here
[22:44] <ubuntumate> simple question
[22:44] <valentinmu> TJ-: thanks, i'll google for that
[22:44] <syntroPi> Does someone have an idea why WebGL on Chrome 43.0.2357.130 would be disabled on Linux 3.16.0-43-generic SMP  x86_64 GNU/Linux with proprietary Nvidia 304.125 ?
[22:44] <ubuntumate> i better ask my teacher at monday
[22:44] <ubuntumate> thanks
[22:45] <TJ-> valentinmu: I've not used AMD GPUs in ages so I can't really help your further on the particular causes, but there are others here familiar with the ATI/AMD stuff
[22:45] <kgb> maybe better since you're experimenting
[22:46] <valentinmu> TJ-: thanks anyway :)
[22:47] <valentinmu> so, did anyone here have met problems with screen resolution on ATI card with opensource driver?
[22:47] <kgb> sorz nvidia here
[22:48] <nmatrix9> daftykins,  Ok I see a Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-22-generic (x86_64)
[23:01] <valentinmu> hey, another question. how what can be wrong if when i boot from liveusb 14.04, process hangs on "Generating locales" ?
[23:02] <GJdan> what is the codename of ubuntu 15?
[23:02] <xangua> !15.04 | GJdan
[23:02] <GJdan> which was trusty?
[23:03] <syntroPi> 12.04
[23:03] <TJ-> !14.04 | GJdan
[23:03] <syntroPi> ooh right
[23:03] <GJdan> ah, thanks
[23:08] <user4567754> hello
[23:20] <Tex_Nick> GJdan: you might find this interesting ... Ubuntu Releases ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:33] <gr33dy1> hello anyone here ?
[23:34] <gr33dy1> im running ubuntu live right now, i want to install it, but i have questions on setting up my partitions
[23:35] <gr33dy1> im running ubuntu live right now, i want to install it, but i have questions on setting up my partitions , can anyone help
[23:35] <bubbasaures> ask for responses if someone knows\
[23:36] <gr33dy1> whats that bubbasaures?
[23:36] <Bashing-om> gr33dy1: Ask, on partitioning, you will get as many different ways to do it and there are administrators. Partitioning is a use-case kind of thing.
[23:36] <gr33dy1> ok
[23:36] <gr33dy1> so here's my ideal setup
[23:36] <bubbasaures> !ask | gr33dy1 for the record after you have been here
[23:37] <basiclaser> hi all, im running ./usr/local/firefox/firefox to run firefox which is successful, but when I try to lock it to the launcher, it does so, but then will not open. The icon just looks busy for a minute and then stops flashing
[23:38] <gr33dy1> im running windows8.1, i'd like to keep it on the drive but with very limited space, i'd like to have an encrypted ubuntu with lots of spaces, what kinds of partitions do i need and how many etc
[23:38] <rypervenche> basiclaser: Is there a reason you're using a custom version of Firefox?
[23:40] <gr33dy1> !patience
[23:41] <basiclaser> dev reasons rypervenche
[23:41] <rypervenche> basiclaser: Gotcha. Try using the full path in your launcher.
[23:42] <gr33dy1> im running 14.04 if that helps
[23:43] <basiclaser> rypervenche: thanks that did it
[23:43] <basiclaser> (duh)
[23:43] <gr33dy1> im running windows8.1, i'd like to keep it on the drive but with very limited space, i'd like to have an encrypted ubuntu with lots of spaces, what kinds of partitions do i need and how many etc
[23:43] <gr33dy1> im using ubuntu 14.04
[23:44] <basiclaser> sorry gr33dy1 i didnt quite catch that, one more time ?
[23:44] <OerHeks> gr33dy1, just make free space from within win8, and let ubuntu partition swap etc
[23:44] <jamesd> there are store and websites that sell large harddisk drives that will allow you to do all that for not much money
[23:45] <rypervenche> gr33dy1: I would recommend two. One for /boot and one for your LUKS-encrypted partition. The installer will create a swap and root partition there in LVM for you.
[23:46] <lj1102> hey, I've added a redirect rule via iptables, do I have to restart the networking service for it to take effect?
[23:46] <lj1102> **prerouting rule
[23:46] <GJdan> Tex_Nick: aha, most useful, okay I'll check the wiki next time
[23:46] <GJdan> thanks
[23:47] <rypervenche> lj1102: Nope :)
[23:47] <gr33dy1> can anyone explain what the paritions types actually do ? i mean i know how to make it run i think, im here because i want to set it up for optimal levels
[23:47] <lj1102> rypervenche: :( but its not working
[23:47] <Tex_Nick> GJdan: you're welcome :-)
[23:47] <rypervenche> lj1102: How did you add the rule?
[23:48] <jamesd> if you are running luks remember to stock up on extra strengh and double thick alluminum file the FBI is always improving there brain scan technology.
[23:48] <rypervenche> lj1102: run "sudo iptables -t nat -nvL" and verify it is there.
[23:48] <jamesd> er foil
[23:48] <lj1102> rypervenche: I've added it via iptables commands, this is how it looks "-A PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:8775"
[23:49] <gr33dy1> lol jamesd, a little help pls
[23:49] <lj1102> rypervenche: still no response :|
[23:49] <rypervenche> lj1102: One sec.
[23:49] <gr33dy1> what kind of encryption does luks do ?
[23:49] <OerHeks> gr33dy1, optimum is let ubuntu take control, else read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[23:50] <jamesd> gr33dy1: the partition types are there for programs to read and tell what type of data is contained, but in reality the numbers don't matter you can use any number you want as long as you configure the system right.
[23:50] <rypervenche> lj1102: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:50] <lj1102> rypervenche: 1
[23:50] <lj1102> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[23:51] <gr33dy1> well i had seen a warning that you need a certain amount for swap partition, what does the swap do
[23:51] <lj1102> rypervenche: would be too easy ;)
[23:51] <jamesd> gr33dy1: swap partition and files allows your system to use part of diskspace as memory its slower, but can help in some systems... i recomend always having a coupe GB of swap if you can spare the disk space.
[23:53] <gr33dy1> ubuntu wants to erase my windows 8 lol also brings up another question if i were worried about outside intrusion would just having a windows partition on disk be enough of a backdoor even if i intend to run linux 99% of the time
[23:53] <lj1102> rypervenche: this is the only rule affecting this IP
[23:53] <gr33dy1> thanks jamesd
[23:53] <jamesd> d(+i)] [21:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,22,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35]
[23:53] <jamesd> [#ubuntu]
[23:53] <jamesd> oops
[23:54] <gr33dy1> also differences between ext3 ext4 and fat32
[23:56] <rypervenche> lj1102: Hmmm, not sure if you'll beed an SNAT or not with that.
[23:56] <rypervenche> lj1102: You could always do a tcpdump to see if the return packets are not going to the right IP.
[23:57] <lj1102> rypervenche: are iptable rules order dependend, maybe there si some oddball rule in my way too large iptables ?
[23:57] <rypervenche> lj1102: They are. The first match will run that rule.
[23:57] <jamesd> gr33dy1: ext4 is probably best to start out on... fat32 is more freindly for windows so if you are dual booting it could help data transfer if you have only one system
[23:57] <lj1102> rypervenche: are they stored in a file or something, or how would I move rules around?
[23:58] <jamesd> main ubuntu install on ext4... and then 10% of space on fat32 if you are dual booting
[23:58] <rypervenche> lj1102: I personally like to output them to a file then restore them. It's easier to edit them. sudo iptables-save > filename
[23:58] <rypervenche> lj1102: Edit the file, then run "sudo iptables-restore < filename" to upload the changes.
[23:59] <lj1102> rypervenche: ah cool, I'll give it a shot, is this "safe" ?
[23:59] <gr33dy1> im dual booting and have only one system i have a 250gb hardrive, i want an encrypted partition or whatever, can you tell me what i need jamesd, percentages is fine