melodie | hello, | 12:37 |
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melodie | I am hitting an issue in Ubuntu Vivid x86_64 with volumeicon, alsa and pulseaudio being both installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866421/ | 12:38 |
melodie | do you know if that is an expected behavior to have it crashing, or not? I also used it before with former editions of Ubuntu and it was ok to work along with pulseaudio | 12:39 |
melodie | ? | 12:39 |
melodie | I'll brb | 13:32 |
melodie | repeating my question: | 13:44 |
melodie | <melodie> I am hitting an issue in Ubuntu Vivid x86_64 with volumeicon, alsa and pulseaudio being both installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866421/ | 13:45 |
melodie | do you know if that is an expected behavior to have it crashing, or not? I also used it before with former editions of Ubuntu and it was ok to work along with pulseaudio | 13:45 |
penguin42 | melodie: Stuff should never crash | 13:45 |
melodie | hi penguin42 | 13:46 |
penguin42 | melodie: If it objects to something in your setup then it should display a nice message and tell you; not crash | 13:46 |
penguin42 | I'd bug report it | 13:47 |
melodie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866738/ | 13:48 |
melodie | what do you think from this one? | 13:48 |
penguin42 | yeh it should never abort | 13:48 |
melodie | penguin42 what do you think about this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volumeicon/+bug/1448493 | 13:49 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1448493 in volumeicon (Debian) "Volumeicon-alsa is *very* outdated" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 13:49 |
melodie | :p | 13:49 |
penguin42 | melodie: Well a please to update the package is a bit different from a bug reporting that the current version is hopelessly broken | 13:51 |
melodie | I'm about to bug report for the current version | 13:52 |
melodie | then I'll see how trivial compiling the recent one can be, and if not too complicated I might give it a try | 13:52 |
melodie | unless there is a ppa for it | 13:52 |
melodie | penguin42 #1473733 | 13:57 |
penguin42 | melodie: Do all the other alsa things work? | 14:11 |
melodie | penguin42 I can start alsamixer. | 14:14 |
melodie | while using pulseaudio, what other alsa things can I test? | 14:14 |
melodie | I'll brb | 14:15 |
melodie | penguin42 ? | 15:11 |
penguin42 | not sure | 15:13 |
penguin42 | but you seem to have a nice repeatable bug; the only problem you have is you have to find someone who cares about updating it | 15:14 |
melodie | there is someone who left a comment on the "outdated" report, to say he was putting a watch at Debian bugs where it was also reported as outdated. | 15:15 |
melodie | I send him a mail to let him aware about the new bug I just reported | 15:16 |
hjd | melodie: Hi :) | 16:05 |
hjd | melodie: I guess that might have been me. | 16:05 |
melodie | hello hjd ! | 16:06 |
melodie | yes, I sent you a message through launchpad | 16:07 |
hjd | I briefly looked at the bug report, but `volumeicon` ran without a crash in my 15.04 vm. | 16:11 |
melodie | do you think it might be an issue related to my hardware : here nvidia chipset? | 16:11 |
melodie | if so what could have changed in Ubuntu to make it not compliant anymore | 16:12 |
penguin42 | the fact it's complaining about a specific Nvidia channel does make me wonder that; but maybe it's just something volumeicon isn't being careful of | 16:12 |
melodie | any test you could suggest to me? | 16:12 |
hjd | I think it could be, since the error message mentions Nvidia. | 16:12 |
penguin42 | melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo gets lots of alsa info | 16:12 |
melodie | I have had this machine for a long time, from what I remember it's the first time I have volumeicon alsa crashing | 16:13 |
melodie | hjd does your vm use pulseaudio at same time too? | 16:13 |
penguin42 | melodie: Yeh now the only challenge is to find why! | 16:13 |
melodie | penguin42 yes I get that ;) | 16:14 |
hjd | melodie: I don't know exactly. How can I tell? :) | 16:14 |
melodie | hjd "apt-cache policy pulseaudio" ? | 16:15 |
melodie | or "ps ax | grep pulse" ? | 16:15 |
hjd | Installed and running. | 16:16 |
hjd | The vm has a couple of extra packages installed, but should otherwise be fairly close to 15.04 out of the box | 16:16 |
melodie | hjd thank you, you spare me the work of removing pulseaudio for the tests | 16:17 |
melodie | hjd my install is not 15.04 out of the box, however it's very close to a minimal standard install | 16:17 |
melodie | or at least should be | 16:18 |
melodie | I suppose my next test will be to compile the recent stable version and test it | 16:18 |
melodie | unless a strace on it helps devs find what is wrong here | 16:19 |
penguin42 | melodie: Yes, trying the stable version seems a good test | 16:21 |
melodie | I will, later | 16:21 |
melodie | $ pastebinit strace-volumeicon.txt | 16:22 |
melodie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867476/ | 16:22 |
melodie | for now a fast strace, just if someone here knows how to read that (for I don't) | 16:22 |
penguin42 | melodie: I'm not sure the strace is much help; however two things might be | 16:23 |
penguin42 | melodie: 1) Run that alsa-info script and attach the output, and the other thing is in your gdb do a bt full and paste that | 16:23 |
melodie | which alsa-info script? | 16:24 |
penguin42 | melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo | 16:25 |
penguin42 | personalyl I'd be a bit more careful before running the output of a wget | 16:25 |
penguin42 | ah, you can also get it from the git http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-utils.git;a=history;f=alsa-info/alsa-info.sh | 16:26 |
melodie | penguin42 here is bt full: | 16:27 |
melodie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867503/ | 16:27 |
penguin42 | melodie: It looks like you're missing the debug packages so don't have any symbols/line numbers | 16:27 |
penguin42 | melodie: So you can't tell what #4 and #5 are | 16:28 |
melodie | aha | 16:28 |
melodie | volumeicon-alsa don't have debug packages in the repos | 16:28 |
penguin42 | melodie: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash about installing -dbg or -dbgsym | 16:28 |
melodie | it should be recompiled with debug options probably | 16:29 |
melodie | aha | 16:29 |
melodie | which one? | 16:29 |
melodie | -dbg or the other? | 16:29 |
penguin42 | I don't think I've ever figured out the difference | 16:29 |
melodie | what package is -dbg ? | 16:47 |
melodie | I see : none | 16:47 |
melodie | volumeicon-alsa does not come with any debug versions | 16:47 |
melodie | I can't take more time for that right now, will try to use some more later | 16:48 |
melodie | thanks | 16:48 |
penguin42 | melodie: The debug things are in a separate repo you have to enable | 16:50 |
melodie | penguin42 which one? | 16:51 |
penguin42 | melodie: Debug packages | 16:51 |
melodie | how do you add it to Synaptic? | 16:52 |
penguin42 | melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 16:52 |
penguin42 | melodie: Search for Synaptic in there | 16:52 |
melodie | done, thanks | 16:55 |
melodie | done with the command line | 16:55 |
melodie | as easy | 16:55 |
melodie | I had no idea there was a special repos for debug builds | 16:57 |
melodie | penguin42 volumeicon-alsa-dbgsym is now installed and here is the new output: | 17:01 |
melodie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867686/ | 17:01 |
melodie | do you see new info there? | 17:02 |
penguin42 | excellent | 17:02 |
penguin42 | melodie: It doesn't add much unfortunately - the line we already knew in this case from the assert; so the only other thing to do is that alsa-info | 17:03 |
melodie | chmod a+x alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh ? | 17:03 |
* penguin42 goes to make food - back in ~25min | 17:04 | |
melodie | [melodie@bento64:/tmp]$ pastebinit alsa-info.txt.KFMHlNNS2z | 17:04 |
melodie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867707/ | 17:04 |
melodie | penguin42 yeah, same here : food! :D | 17:05 |
melodie | cya | 17:05 |
penguin42 | melodie: Attach that to the bug report | 17:30 |
penguin42 | melodie: There don't seem to be any errors - I'm not sure if it is sane or not | 17:30 |
melodie | penguin42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volumeicon/+bug/1473733/comments/2 | 17:35 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1473733 in volumeicon (Ubuntu) "volume-icon alsa crashes in Vivid x86_64" [Undecided,New] | 17:35 |
penguin42 | melodie: Don't use the pastebin in the bug - attach the stuff as an attachment | 17:36 |
penguin42 | melodie: Pastebin's dont necessarily last | 17:36 |
melodie | ok | 17:57 |
melodie | done | 17:58 |
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