[12:37] <melodie> hello,
[12:38] <melodie> I am hitting an issue in Ubuntu Vivid x86_64 with volumeicon, alsa and pulseaudio being both installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866421/
[12:39] <melodie> do you know if that is an expected behavior to have it crashing, or not? I also used it before with former editions of Ubuntu and it was ok to work along with pulseaudio
[12:39] <melodie> ?
[13:32] <melodie> I'll brb
[13:44] <melodie> repeating my question:
[13:45] <melodie> <melodie> I am hitting an issue in Ubuntu Vivid x86_64 with volumeicon, alsa and pulseaudio being both installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866421/
[13:45] <melodie> do you know if that is an expected behavior to have it crashing, or not? I also used it before with former editions of Ubuntu and it was ok to work along with pulseaudio
[13:45] <penguin42> melodie: Stuff should never crash
[13:46] <melodie> hi penguin42
[13:46] <penguin42> melodie: If it objects to something in your setup then it should display a nice message and tell you; not crash
[13:47] <penguin42> I'd bug report it
[13:48] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866738/
[13:48] <melodie> what do you think from this one?
[13:48] <penguin42> yeh it should never abort
[13:49] <melodie> penguin42 what do you think about this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volumeicon/+bug/1448493
[13:49] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1448493 in volumeicon (Debian) "Volumeicon-alsa is *very* outdated" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[13:49] <melodie> :p
[13:51] <penguin42> melodie: Well a please to update the package is a bit different from a bug reporting that the current version is hopelessly broken
[13:52] <melodie> I'm about to bug report for the current version
[13:52] <melodie> then I'll see how trivial compiling the recent one can be, and if not too complicated I might give it a try
[13:52] <melodie> unless there is a ppa for it
[13:57] <melodie> penguin42 #1473733
[14:11] <penguin42> melodie: Do all the other alsa things work?
[14:14] <melodie> penguin42 I can start alsamixer.
[14:14] <melodie> while using pulseaudio, what other alsa things can I test?
[14:15] <melodie> I'll brb
[15:11] <melodie> penguin42 ?
[15:13] <penguin42> not sure
[15:14] <penguin42> but you seem to have a nice repeatable bug; the only problem you have is you have to find someone who cares about updating it
[15:15] <melodie> there is someone who left a comment on the "outdated" report, to say he was putting a watch at Debian bugs where it was also reported as outdated.
[15:16] <melodie> I send him a mail to let him aware about the new bug I just reported
[16:05] <hjd> melodie: Hi :)
[16:05] <hjd> melodie: I guess that might have been me.
[16:06] <melodie> hello hjd !
[16:07] <melodie> yes, I sent you a message through launchpad
[16:11] <hjd> I briefly looked at the bug report, but `volumeicon` ran without a crash in my 15.04 vm.
[16:11] <melodie> do you think it might be an issue related to my hardware : here nvidia chipset?
[16:12] <melodie> if so what could have changed in Ubuntu to make it not compliant anymore
[16:12] <penguin42> the fact it's complaining about a specific Nvidia channel does make me wonder that; but maybe it's just something volumeicon isn't being careful of
[16:12] <melodie> any test you could suggest to me?
[16:12] <hjd> I think it could be, since the error message mentions Nvidia.
[16:12] <penguin42> melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo   gets lots of alsa info
[16:13] <melodie> I have had this machine for a long time, from what I remember it's the first time I have volumeicon alsa crashing
[16:13] <melodie> hjd does your vm use pulseaudio at same time too?
[16:13] <penguin42> melodie: Yeh now the only challenge is to find why!
[16:14] <melodie> penguin42 yes I get that ;)
[16:14] <hjd> melodie: I don't know exactly. How can I tell? :)
[16:15] <melodie> hjd "apt-cache policy pulseaudio" ?
[16:15] <melodie> or "ps ax | grep pulse" ?
[16:16] <hjd> Installed and running.
[16:16] <hjd> The vm has a couple of extra packages installed, but should otherwise be fairly close to 15.04 out of the box
[16:17] <melodie> hjd thank you, you spare me the work of removing pulseaudio for the tests
[16:17] <melodie> hjd my install is not 15.04 out of the box, however it's very close to a minimal standard install
[16:18] <melodie> or at least should be
[16:18] <melodie> I suppose my next test will be to compile the recent stable version and test it
[16:19] <melodie> unless a strace on it helps devs find what is wrong here
[16:21] <penguin42> melodie: Yes, trying the stable version seems a good test
[16:21] <melodie> I will, later
[16:22] <melodie> $ pastebinit strace-volumeicon.txt
[16:22] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867476/
[16:22] <melodie> for now a fast strace, just if someone here knows how to read that (for I don't)
[16:23] <penguin42> melodie: I'm not sure the strace is much help; however two things might be
[16:23] <penguin42> melodie: 1) Run that alsa-info script and attach the output, and the other thing is  in your gdb  do a   bt full    and paste that
[16:24] <melodie> which alsa-info script?
[16:25] <penguin42> melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[16:25] <penguin42> personalyl I'd be a bit more careful before running the output of a wget
[16:26] <penguin42> ah, you can also get it from the git http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-utils.git;a=history;f=alsa-info/alsa-info.sh
[16:27] <melodie> penguin42 here is bt full:
[16:27] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867503/
[16:27] <penguin42> melodie: It looks like you're missing the debug packages so don't have any symbols/line numbers
[16:28] <penguin42> melodie: So you can't tell what #4 and #5 are
[16:28] <melodie> aha
[16:28] <melodie> volumeicon-alsa don't have debug packages in the repos
[16:28] <penguin42> melodie: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash   about installing -dbg or -dbgsym
[16:29] <melodie> it should be recompiled with debug options probably
[16:29] <melodie> aha
[16:29] <melodie> which one?
[16:29] <melodie> -dbg or the other?
[16:29] <penguin42> I don't think I've ever figured out the difference
[16:47] <melodie> what package is -dbg ?
[16:47] <melodie> I see : none
[16:47] <melodie> volumeicon-alsa does not come with any debug versions
[16:48] <melodie> I can't take more time for that right now, will try to use some more later
[16:48] <melodie> thanks
[16:50] <penguin42> melodie: The debug things are in a separate repo you have to enable
[16:51] <melodie> penguin42 which one?
[16:51] <penguin42> melodie: Debug packages
[16:52] <melodie> how do you add it to Synaptic?
[16:52] <penguin42> melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[16:52] <penguin42> melodie: Search for Synaptic in there
[16:55] <melodie> done, thanks
[16:55] <melodie> done with the command line
[16:55] <melodie> as easy
[16:57] <melodie> I had no idea there was a special repos for debug builds
[17:01] <melodie> penguin42 volumeicon-alsa-dbgsym is now installed and here is the new output:
[17:01] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867686/
[17:02] <melodie> do you see new info there?
[17:02] <penguin42> excellent
[17:03] <penguin42> melodie: It doesn't add much unfortunately - the line we already knew in this case from the assert; so the only other thing to do is that alsa-info
[17:03] <melodie> chmod a+x alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh ?
[17:04]  * penguin42 goes to make food - back in ~25min
[17:04] <melodie> [melodie@bento64:/tmp]$ pastebinit alsa-info.txt.KFMHlNNS2z
[17:04] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867707/
[17:05] <melodie> penguin42 yeah, same here : food! :D
[17:05] <melodie> cya
[17:30] <penguin42> melodie: Attach that to the bug report
[17:30] <penguin42> melodie: There don't seem to be any errors - I'm not sure if it is sane or not
[17:35] <melodie> penguin42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volumeicon/+bug/1473733/comments/2
[17:35] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1473733 in volumeicon (Ubuntu) "volume-icon alsa crashes in Vivid x86_64" [Undecided,New]
[17:36] <penguin42> melodie: Don't use the pastebin in the bug - attach the stuff as an attachment
[17:36] <penguin42> melodie: Pastebin's dont necessarily last
[17:57] <melodie> ok
[17:58] <melodie> done