[00:00] <rypervenche> lj1102: I'd make a copy of the first "sudo iptables-save > filename" that you made, so that if you need to you can restore from it to fix your rules.
[00:01] <rypervenche> lj1102: I would also recommend installing the package "iptables-persistent" so that your rules will get loaded after a reboot.
[00:01] <gr33dy1> im also much more interested in a good running system, more storage space can be purchased later
[00:01] <lj1102> rypervenche: well I'm not concerned about me making things worse but about having duplicate rules or some curroption when restoring them ;) Well you're right I could just reboot of things get hairy.
[00:02] <rypervenche> lj1102: iptables-save does nothing more than output the current rules to standard output. You can redirect that to a file, as I showed you.
[00:03] <rypervenche> lj1102: That file is exactly what your rules look like, so you manually add/remove what you want, so there should be no duplication. When you run the restore, it overwrites all of your current rules whatever is in the file.
[00:03] <lj1102> rypervenche: yeah, i was concerned about "iptables-restore" as I thought it may do some patching or something
[00:04] <rypervenche> lj1102: Nope. Feel free to read the man pages for both :)
[00:04] <lj1102> rypervenche: will do, thanks.
[00:14] <eb0t> wow systemd is amazing
[00:14] <Tex_Nick> eb0t: how so ?
[00:15] <eb0t> it just makes a lot of messing around very simple
[00:16] <Tex_Nick> eb0t: specifics ?
[00:17] <Tex_Nick> eb0t: I'm just curious about what people like/dislike about systemd
[00:17]  * jamesd loves how they throw away 30 years of unix technology away in the name of adding a few bells and whistles. 
[00:17] <eb0t> i like it because normally when i want to see whats ahppening i use tail
[00:17] <rypervenche> That topic is best for #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:17] <eb0t> but now i just use journalctl which does the same
[00:18] <eb0t> if i want to add something to defualt run level
[00:18] <eb0t> simple systemctl enable command
[00:18] <eb0t> start it stop it reset it
[00:18] <eb0t> no matter what the service is ..its always the same
[00:18] <eb0t> check the status of a service
[00:18] <eb0t> same command again
[00:19] <eb0t> take something out of the boot start up ..
[00:19] <eb0t> same command again
[00:19] <Tex_Nick> rypervenche: you're right, I shouldn't have posed the question ... so it would be better discussed in OT
[00:19] <eb0t> its just makes life easy
[00:19] <eb0t> no init.d
[00:19] <eb0t> rc config
[00:19] <rypervenche> eb0t: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[00:19] <eb0t> tail
[00:19] <eb0t> im finished
[00:19] <eb0t> he asked and he received
[00:24] <eb0t> still dont get it thoguh...when nobody is talking about anything..what is the big deal about ttalking about linux stuff
[00:24] <eb0t> fact is there is none
[00:24] <eb0t> just people wanting tos show off and act like they are in charge
[00:24] <Tex_Nick> eb0t: I broke the general rules of the channel ... but hey, just cause a dummy like me jumps off the cliff, doesn't mean it's good for you to follow !!! LOL ;-)))
[00:24] <MrDoubtFire> hi All, so many desktop options in Ubuntu, not sure which is the best one
[00:25] <eb0t> go for gnome mrdoubtfire
[00:25] <eb0t> excellent
[00:25] <MrDoubtFire> But that is a Memory Hog, no? I tried it, but gnome-shell in ps output is on top all the damn time
[00:25] <Bashing-om> !best | MrDoubtFire
[00:25] <rypervenche> eb0t: This channel is for support only. If you want to talk, go elsewhere please. Lest the ops deal with you.
[00:25] <MrDoubtFire> though I did like the appearance n such
[00:26] <eb0t> yes gnome uses a lot of resources ....if thats an issue then maybe something else
[00:26] <eb0t> have you tried i3 or awesome window manager
[00:26] <jamesd> MrDoubtFire: try them all.. the one that meets your needs is best, if you are new, i would stick with the default distro... because it will have the best user experience and more people supporting it...  sure a ferari gives a nice ride, but it may be 50 miles to the nearest ferari certified mechanic when it breaks down
[00:26] <eb0t> theya rare super slim
[00:26] <eb0t> and fast as hell
[00:27] <MrDoubtFire> ebot: not really .... awesome window manager, does sound awesome,  I think I am gonna try it out today in VirtualBox first
[00:27] <MrDoubtFire> and then baremetal
[00:27] <eb0t> personally i use xmonad and gnome...and jump between the two
[00:28] <eb0t> xmonad is no nonsense and total bare bones
[00:28] <MrDoubtFire> xmonad, I saw the videos on youtube, but I need something my wife can use on my computer too, xmonad will push her apart, lol
[00:28] <eb0t> but you can do everything from command line...arch is better looking but it sometimes breaks
[00:28] <jamesd> if you watch movies or play games properly configured audio out of the box is a good thing, and its hard to do, so is hard on some smaller distros
[00:28] <eb0t> or you may have issues when updating or getting certain things to work
[00:29] <MrDoubtFire> I know, but again, my wife is a non-tech person, she hates commadn line, lol .... I will google n check out the awesome window manager n see how it is
[00:29] <MrDoubtFire> nevertheless, tx for the suggestion ebot n all
[00:29] <xangua> MrDoubtFire: consider Lubuntu or Xubuntu for low resources
[00:29] <MrDoubtFire> Agree
[00:30] <MrDoubtFire> btw m surprised no one talked about KDE?
[00:30] <MrDoubtFire> Just thinking ... :P
[00:30] <xangua> you could use KDE withouth efects if you want
[00:35] <blz> Are ZFS and Btrfs substitutes for RAID arrays?
[00:36] <jamesd> blz: forget that btrfs exists.. you will be happier, visit #zfsonlinux for help with ZFS.
[00:36] <blz> jamesd, thanks!  Yeah I got the sense that btrfs was under "heavy  perpetual development" :/
[00:36] <blz> join #zfsonlinux
[00:36] <nmatrix9> jamesd, how is ZFS I still hear it's not as reliable as ext4?
[00:37] <jamesd> nmatrix9: i have been running it on my ubuntu box for years probably at least 3-4 years now, no dataloss... not everything is supported as it is in an illumos distro but not bad.
[00:44] <rypervenche> nmatrix9: ZFS can't be built into the Linux kernel though, due to licensing. So there's that.
[00:47] <nmatrix9> rypervenche, ah ok but how is it's peformance and reliability though I was going to go with ZFS but right now reliability is my biggest concerns especially with power outtages
[00:48] <rypervenche> nmatrix9: I only have experience with ZFS on Solaris, not on Linux.
[00:50] <nmatrix9> Can someone explain to me why nvidia-current is like 40 megs less than nvidia-331?
[01:11] <ki7rw> is it necessary to use WEP to set up internet connection sharing? or can it be done with no wifi encryption
[01:12]  * ki7rw guesses that he should just go buy a router
[01:13] <foobar12_> nmatrix: nvidia-current is just a virtual package depending upon the current nvidia-<version number> package, so it doesn't actually contain anything except packaging information
[01:13] <jamesd> ki7rw: that is my advice...  must more testing and as soon as you have more than one user on the wifi, you become the admin... and then you feel like work even when you are relaxing on a saturday with a beer,  "Dad the internet is down again"
[01:13] <Tex_Nick> ki7rw: wifi encryption is NOT necessary
[01:15] <ki7rw> Tex_Nick, thanks
[01:15] <Tex_Nick> ki7rw: if you need wifi encryption though ... wpa is better than wep
[01:15] <ki7rw> jamesd, it's interesting that the tablet sees the wifi but the galaxy s4 doesn't - both running android
[01:16]  * ki7rw doesn't want to buy a router since i'm traveling
[01:16] <canonprinter> is it possible to make a command for the terminal at all
[01:17] <jParkton> it is
[01:17] <canonprinter> ooo how :o
[01:17] <canonprinter> like
[01:17] <jamesd> ki7rw: which is why i recomend the router... 9 times out of 10.. really its 99 times out of 100 it just works, though i do have the skills to do it my self, $50 isn't worth my time to do it my self.
[01:17] <canonprinter> i want to make it run "cd ~/Documents/btg" then "python3 btg.py" when I type "btg" in the terminal
[01:17] <canonprinter> or rather just
[01:17] <canonprinter> "python3 ~/Documents/btg/btg.py"
[01:17] <canonprinter> when I type "btg"
[01:18] <jParkton> you set those in your bash profile I believe?
[01:18] <canonprinter> and where that might be
[01:18] <canonprinter> i am a noob to linux/ubuntu
[01:20]  * ki7rw should've brought his spare router
[01:21] <canonprinter> jParkton: any idea where that is? :P
[01:21] <foobar12_> canonprinter, you can setup aliases in ~/.bash_profile ... for what you want to do, I believe this is what you need: alias btg=cd ~/Documents/btg && python3 btg.py
[01:21] <jParkton> I am not sure
[01:21] <canonprinter> Ah tyvm foobar12_
[01:21] <foobar12_> canonprinter: more info on aliases is available here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html
[01:21] <jParkton> you can google adding commands to linux bash
[01:21] <canonprinter> Yes thank you :D
[01:21] <foobar12_> canonprinter: no problem
[01:23] <ki7rw> but one has to try not to incur additional charges when traveling by plane - i carry too much stuff as it is
[01:48] <irctc551> Hi. Is ubuntu desktop dieing in popularity?
[01:50] <bubbasaures> ircnode0, No, it's jusr pining.
[01:50] <bubbasaures> just*
[01:59] <Tex_Nick> irctc551: in the past many months, there have been media articles claiming that desktop computing in general is loosing market share & that desktops are a thing of the past ... it's just media buzz
[02:05] <Rrjj> Should I install the Ubuntu restricted extras? or the Xubuntu?
[02:05] <Rrjj> Why different variants differ the sizes in MB?
[02:05] <sloantothebone> Hi rrjj
[02:06] <Rrjj> Hello
[02:06] <sloantothebone> Isnt restricted have proprietary software?
[02:06] <Rrjj> Yes.
[02:06] <Rrjj> Are you using Ubuntu w/ Unity?
[02:06] <sloantothebone> Me? no
[02:07] <sloantothebone> I'm using ubuntu gnome
[02:07] <squinty> Rrjj,  they are two totally different subjects.  xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce rather than unity or someother desktop
[02:07] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[02:08] <sloantothebone> Mythbuntu?
[02:08] <sloantothebone> That must be what the mythbusters use
[02:08] <sloantothebone> And then there's Ubuntu Satanic heehee
[02:08] <Rrjj> Yes I'm aware of that. But my question is, will it create problem if I install the restricted extras for Ubuntu if I'm using the Xubuntu?
[02:09] <sloantothebone> I doubt it
[02:09] <cfhowlett> sadly neither ubuntu satanic nor sabily (ubuntu muslim edition) are being maintained anymore
[02:09] <cfhowlett> Rrjj, it will cause no problems
[02:09] <sloantothebone> Sadly?
[02:09] <Rrjj> Okay, that's a relief. Thanks
[02:10] <sloantothebone> I came here to ask for help
[02:10] <sloantothebone> too
[02:10] <cfhowlett> !ask | sloantothebone
[02:10] <sloantothebone> -_- I know
[02:11] <sloantothebone> I cannot run unity3d games on facebook, I have unity3d enabled in pipelight
[02:12] <xangua> sloantothebone: wine is not perfect, have you researched on the wine database ¿
[02:12] <sloantothebone> No just google
[02:13] <alexbird> have usb stick with documents. formatted dos fat16. can open in windows 7 and fedora 20. cannot open in ubuntu 15, but shows up in fdisk
[02:17] <squinty> alexbird,  maybe try the "Disks" program and see if it mounts from there.  If it barfs the progam may give some clue as to why
[02:18] <alexbird> squinty, what is the Disks program?
[02:18] <cfhowlett> sloantothebone, I run ubuntu but keep win7 in virtualbox just in case ...
[02:18] <alexbird> found it
[02:19] <Rrjj> How to bring back the startup splash screen on Xubuntu? It was gone after installing nvidia driver
[02:20] <alexbird> squinty, it shows up in Disks, but how to take some action on it?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> Rrjj, go to the bottom panel > settings > session and startup > Splash
[02:21] <squinty> alexbird,  see if it is mounted    if not then try mounting.  if it mounts ok then it should be available via your file manager or command line/terminal
[02:22] <squinty> alexbird,  probably an idea to format your usb fat32 these days too.  :-)
[02:22] <alexbird> squinty, that is the thing, I do not see an option to mount
[02:22] <Rrjj> cfhowlett: I want to bring back the default one. How to do that?
[02:22] <Rrjj> Like the plymouth for Ubuntu
[02:22] <Rrjj> I'm using Xubuntu
[02:22] <cfhowlett> Rrjj, choose the one you want.  you have a choice of 4.
[02:23] <squinty> alexbird,  click on the "cog" icons available after you highlight the particular item you are interested in
[02:23] <alexbird> I see Format, Partition, Edit filesystem (grayed out), etc., but not mount
[02:25] <alexbird> squinty, I also see create disk image, benchmark. edit mount options (grayed out)
[02:26] <squinty> alexbird,  just checked again.  if the device is mount there should be a "square" just before the cog icons... if not mounted then click on the arrow.
[02:27] <Gerowen> Anybody know if Facebook changed their chat protocols?  Pidgin no longer logs into Facebook chat for me.  Logs into Google Talk just fine.
[02:28] <alexbird> I see an arrow with a minus before the cog icon, but that would delete the partition. I see a square with a triangle up close to the top right of the window, but that looks like 'eject device'
[02:28] <kryptofreak> hello all?
[02:28] <squinty> alexbird,   you could also unplug the usb and then plug it back in.   then in a terminal type dmesg and see if the unit is recognize after the display has finished scrolling.  if the unit is not recognized in dmesg then it it's current state it will not be recognized
[02:29] <cfhowlett> alexbird, possible workaround: copy off the files to your HDD and reformat that USB.  sussing out why the files won't read is a different matter.
[02:29] <squinty> alexbird,  square/arrow   for mounting and unmounting      the hyphen/minus is for deleting a partition
[02:35] <kryptofreak> quantum: what up?
[02:38] <moobase> dm-crypted mounted secondary harddisk. Has about ~10 files I'm not using or accessing in any way (afaik). Not in a file manager, console or anything. Fresh ubuntu install. The disk is however periodically being accessed which spins it up, what and why? kworker and jdb2 is doing the most io on my system. Why would jdb2 "journal" the disk that I'm not even using?
[02:39] <kryptofreak> so im new to using linux can anyone help me whats the first 10 things i should do to a fresh install besides the updates i want to add a cpu monitor gage i also wanna learn how to switch to other irc channels about specific stuff like network security  im just trying to learn
[02:39] <kryptofreak> im using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[02:39] <moobase> kryptofreak: whatever irc client you're using right now, you can type (without quotes) "/join ##security"
[02:40] <moobase> in the chat box, to join ##security.
[02:40] <cfhowlett> kryptofreak, learn to use search engines for simple questions:  https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=10+things+install+ubuntu+14.04&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
[02:40] <moobase> kryptofreak: just install ubuntu, and go from there. Follow tutorials on how to install CPU monitor etc.
[02:41] <cfhowlett> kryptofreak, for general and free ubuntu guidance:  www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[02:41] <nmatrix9> daftykins, you awake?
[02:41] <nicomachus> lol, still having trouble with that monitor nmatrix9?
[02:41] <kryptofreak> moobase: thanks man i appreciate the help i didnt know the join thing
[02:42] <Guest98792> so, it has come to this
[02:42] <kryptofreak> thank you everyone for the much needed help
[02:43] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, Why you gotta call me out like that lol . . . yes I can't seem to build a nvidia driver for vivid but fortunately I can get full screen WITHOUT the nvidia driver module.  I think my xubuntu is trolling me.
[02:44] <Ionic> nmatrix9: are you missing the kernel headers?
[02:44] <Ionic> or the development framework?
[02:45] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, the reason Iam on vivid is long story short based on advice from another person to upgrade to resolve some mouse cursor disappearing issues in xubuntu
[02:45] <nmatrix9> Ionic, how can I confirm I believe I installed those through synaptic
[02:46] <linuxuz3r> do you guys know a good temp and cpu activity monitor
[02:46] <linuxuz3r> hdd and so on
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !sensors | linuxuz3r
[02:46] <nmatrix9> linuxuz3r, you need lmsensors installed
[02:46] <Ionic> nmatrix9: dpkg -l | grep -i linux-headers-$(uname -r) I beloeve
[02:46] <Ionic> believe
[02:46] <nicomachus> linuxuz3r: if you want something that will continually display on your desktop, look into Conky.
[02:47] <nmatrix9> Ionic, linux-headers-3.19.0-22-generic yeah it's installed
[02:47] <Ionic> nmatrix9: okay... what about build-essential?
[02:47] <Ionic> nmatrix9: and before we're guessing away, what's the actual build log (full!)
[02:48] <nmatrix9> Ionic Iam ahead of you I already pasted it
[02:48] <nicomachus> linuxuz3r: my conky setups: https://imgur.com/wYn8bOu
[02:48] <nmatrix9> Ionic, just a sec
[02:48] <nmatrix9> Ionic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11863881/
[02:48] <OerHeks> nmatrix9, so 3.19 on 14.04 gives nvidia-issues?
[02:49] <Ionic> nmatrix9: need /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331/331.113/build/make.log
[02:49] <jgrasser_> does anyone know the ubuntu certified hardware list exists in a downloadable format
[02:49] <cfhowlett> jgrasser_, never seen that but the "clearly" plugin to ffox converts web pages to easily readable format and allows printing to .pd
[02:50] <cfhowlett> .pdf
[02:50] <nmatrix9> Ionic, just a min
[02:50] <jgrasser_> any chhance that Mr Shuttleworth will make that hardware list downloadable
[02:53] <bubbasaures> jgrasser_, I think it's that there are more not listed running ubuntu with no problems, the list is not worth a whole lot except in a specific context.
[02:53] <foobar12> linuxuz3r: as an alternative to conky, you could also throw this into a terminal: while true; do sensors; sleep 1; done ... just calls sensors every second for an updated readout; it's what I use
[02:53] <allen> anyone here this evening familiar with stopping CPU throttling on Ubuntu under xfce ? I have tried all I can find, with no success, so i must be doing something wrong
[02:54] <jgrasser_> the list has value. if affected consumers purchasing habits then it would be worth alot
[02:54] <cfhowlett> jgrasser_, easy enough to test specific hardware; go to your local computer store, boot an ubuntu USB and see what flys.  I've been known to sneak into a quiet corner of the apple store and start ubuntu on the Mac Air ...
[02:54] <nmatrix9> Ionic  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11864748/
[02:54] <jgrasser_> cfhowlett, that is easy for you an me but not for the general public
[02:55] <cfhowlett> jgrasser_, the "general public" can figure things out just as you and I had to do.
[02:55] <allen> no matter what i set, the cpu keeps dropping back to 800mhz, instead of staying at 2.7Ghz.
[02:55] <jgrasser_> i wanna build an app that would tell you if a laptop is linux compatible just by scanning the laptops barcode
[02:55] <allen> or is there a channel more geared toward tech support ?
[02:55] <Ch4p1E> whats good
[02:55] <OerHeks> allen, is that bad?
[02:56] <allen> i think its bad bud
[02:56] <cfhowlett> allen, #hardware perhaps
[02:56] <allen> computer runs like a slug lol
[02:56] <OerHeks> allen, when a pc is idle, i would like my cpu trottle back
[02:56] <allen> can't even play a silly flash game
[02:56] <allen> i would too, but its doing it all the time
[02:56] <Ionic> nmatrix9: urgh okay, I know that error
[02:56] <jgrasser_> cfhowlett, that is the wrong attitude.
[02:56] <jgrasser_> grandma should not have to figure stuff out
[02:59] <nmatrix9> Ionic, the suspense is killing me man, what is it?
[02:59] <nicomachus> TJ-?
[02:59] <Ionic> nmatrix9: ah, an incompatibility between the kernel interface and the driver
[03:00] <Ionic> looking at what trusty ships
[03:01] <hamidnazari> ;
[03:01] <sparchitect> Is it possible to run a WordPress site (domain from NameCheap) on an Ubuntu LAMP stack from home under the following conditions? 1: Port 80 blocked by ISP.  2: ISP supplied router with FIXED WAN DNS. 3. Not paying for a static IP.   ---  (Works fine on local network, but all I've been able to view from outside network is apache2 default page.)
[03:02] <Ionic> yeah 3.19.0-22
[03:02] <nmatrix9> Ionic, What? is nvidia-331 too far back for vivid?
[03:02] <Ionic> nmatrix9: the problem is that I don't remember when this dentry stuff changed
[03:02] <Ionic> nmatrix9: you're on vivid? then yes!
[03:02] <Ionic> there's... wait
[03:03] <Ionic> nmatrix9: try nvidia-346
[03:03] <OerHeks> sparchitect, no open port 80 ... i guess not.
[03:03] <Ionic> unless you're card is not supported by that newer version anymore, in which case you're screwed
[03:03] <Ionic> (and will have to downgrade the kernel)
[03:04] <krux> you could change the port to a different port instead of 80
[03:05] <Ionic> nmatrix9: what card is that?
[03:05] <sparchitect> OerHeks, I believe the port 80 work around is the easy part, I've redirected the domain to port 8080 with apache listening there etc. I'm mostly just having trouble with wordpress.
[03:05] <alexbird> looking for a way to read dos fat16 usb drive in ubuntu 15. Reads fine in fedora 20.
[03:05] <nmatrix9> Ionic it's a Geforce GTX 550 ti, the website says it supports 352
[03:05] <nmatrix9> Nvidia latest drivers
[03:05] <binni> is it possible to run a simple server on port 8080 (which I've already done) and route incoming request from 80 to 8080 (because I don't want to run my server as root, which port 80 requires)?
[03:05] <alexbird> thanks squinty
[03:06] <alexbird> somehow Disk is not helping
[03:06] <sparchitect> krux, I don't know If i need to get a new DD-WRT capable router, OR pay for DynDNS service?
[03:07] <krux> binni: port forwarding you router should be able to port forward to 8080
[03:07] <allen> k can't chat in hardware, Xubuntu has no one in it, is anyone willing to take a few and look at this issue with me ? I would truly appreciate it.
[03:07] <Ionic> nmatrix9: so go ahead with 346
[03:08] <nmatrix9> Ionic, ok
[03:08] <krux> sparchitect: so you have apache2 installed succesfully ? and changed port to 8080 ? and you are able to access it from outside your network ?
[03:08] <krux> with your ip# ?
[03:08] <OerHeks> !register | allen you need to register your irc name to join ##hardware
[03:09] <allen> but do they help with ubuntu
[03:09] <Ionic> nmatrix9: nvidia are a bunch of m*** c*** s***, they like to deprecate products after a few years and provide "legacy driver versions" which aren't even regularily updated anymore
[03:09] <allen> there is nothing i can set in my bios/hardware to stop the throttling, i have looked
[03:09] <TypeSquid> Test - Disregard
[03:09] <cfhowlett> !test | TypeSquid
[03:12] <OerHeks> allen, your cpu/chipset is designed that way, but this page might be any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/523640/how-i-can-disable-cpu-frequency-scaling-and-set-the-system-to-performance
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> Ionic: in nvidia's defense they output like about 10-15 products every 12 months, supporting everything for more than a few years is difficult and expensive
[03:13] <allen> OerHeks i did that already :)
[03:14] <Ionic> aeon-ltd: which is all essentially the same hardware, but varying clock speeds or disabled features
[03:14] <nmatrix9> Ionic, took the words out of my mouth I am really getting pissed off at nvidia nowadays
[03:16] <easyOnMe> good day everyone
[03:16] <Ionic> aeon-ltd: also, they could at least have the f*** curtesy to provide specifications for products that are EOL anyway, enabling interested community to come up with stuff on their own
[03:16] <TypeSquid> Hey easy
[03:17] <easyOnMe> I just entered this command in the terminal
[03:17] <easyOnMe> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and got this response back
[03:17] <Ionic> aeon-ltd: AMD even releases (incomplete, I guess, but still usable) specifications even for new products, or at least they used to. the hardware also seems to be supported longer than nvidia's. it's all "business stragety" BS.
[03:17] <easyOnMe> Reading package lists... Done
[03:17] <easyOnMe> W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1435908620 KEYEXPIRED 1435908620 KEYEXPIRED 1435908620 The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45
[03:17] <easyOnMe> Reading package lists... Done
[03:17] <easyOnMe> Building dependency tree
[03:17] <easyOnMe> Reading state information... Done
[03:17] <easyOnMe> Calculating upgrade... Done
[03:17] <easyOnMe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:17] <Ionic> easyOnMe: please use a pasting service
[03:18] <nicomachus> !paste | easyOnMe
[03:18] <Ionic> nmatrix9: what happen ?
[03:18] <TypeSquid> Huh.  Looks like their GPG key expired.
[03:18] <TypeSquid> for Opera
[03:19] <TypeSquid> Are you actually using opera?
[03:19] <nmatrix9> Ionic, don't know machine just froze up after I uninstalled nvidia-331
[03:19] <TypeSquid> If not, just remove the Repo
[03:19] <Ionic> nmatrix9: urgh, okay. well, try 346 now...
[03:20] <easyOnMe> ok this is the screen shot
[03:20] <easyOnMe> http://imgur.com/m4tVRnk
[03:20] <easyOnMe> please advice me on the error message
[03:20] <Ionic> I don't see any reason why it would have locked up (given it was impossible to compile the kernel module anyway)
[03:20] <easyOnMe> so that I know what to do
[03:20] <easyOnMe> thanks
[03:21] <Ionic> easyOnMe: TypeSquid already asked a few
[03:21] <TypeSquid> lol.  @easyonMe.  Such a low resoulution.
[03:21] <nmatrix9> Ionic umm Iam unable to find that what repository it exists in?
[03:21] <easyOnMe> TypeSquid: yeah I am using Opera
[03:21] <Ionic> nmatrix9: in the vivid repo?
[03:22] <Ionic> nvidia-346
[03:22] <Ionic> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/nvidia-346 <
[03:22] <TypeSquid> easyOnMe: Huh...  I'll take a peak.  But yea it looks like their GPG key expired which would suck.
[03:22] <Ionic> all there
[03:23] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, look at this manual:  wget -qO- http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[03:23] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, if this does not work, contact the opera guys
[03:24] <Ionic> wget | sudo
[03:24] <Ionic> you're a genius
[03:24] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: wget -qO- http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[03:24] <TypeSquid> Looks like that would update the public key.
[03:24] <easyOnMe> this command is there something missing at the end
[03:24] <Ionic> yes, it would fetch it
[03:24] <nmatrix9> Ionic, hmmm just did a sudo apt-get update not getting it automatically
[03:24] <DoYouKnow> I don't like these tabs on the ubuntu 15.04 Terminal
[03:24] <Ionic> and run it through apt-key
[03:25] <Ionic> nmatrix9: you'll have to install it manually?
[03:25] <TypeSquid> Nah, it will take the rest from the pipe.  A pipe is the "|"
[03:25] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, read the page i gave you
[03:25] <DoYouKnow> they are hard to see on my monitor
[03:25] <Ionic> nmatrix9: the restricted repo is enabled, right?
[03:25]  * OerHeks facepalms
[03:25] <xangua> DoYouKnow: Install any other terminal emulator you want
[03:25] <Ionic> OerHeks: there's a full blog dedicated to that dangerous behavior: http://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
[03:26] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: thanks so much
[03:26] <easyOnMe> it solve the message error
[03:26] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: you're a genius
[03:26] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, have fun
[03:26] <easyOnMe> you're cool man
[03:27] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I checked synaptic it's checked for software restricted by copyright.
[03:27] <Rrjj> Is there any software that works like windows's restore point? Because I want to try out some problem fixes and see if it will work or not.
[03:28] <Rrjj> Because I may messed up something and it would give me the chance to revert the changes made on the system.
[03:28] <Ionic> nmatrix9: so why aren't you seeing that package?
[03:28] <Ionic> nmatrix9: apt-cache search nvidia | pastebininit
[03:28] <Ionic> err, pastebinit
[03:28] <aeon-ltd> Rrjj: you could just make a backup with clonezilla. the process is a lot longer, but you will literally get to the exact same point of the install again unlike windows system restore which is a little imperfect
[03:30] <marcos_> 1
[03:30] <marcos_> 2
[03:30] <alexbird> any ideas as to why a usb drive will not open (for read or write)?
[03:30] <alexbird> opens fine in fedora
[03:31] <aeon-ltd> alexbird: is it encrypted? is there any protection on it?
[03:31] <alexbird> thanks, no, no protection
[03:31] <alexbird> I think it is a format thing
[03:31] <alexbird> fat16
[03:31] <alexbird> but works fine in fedora and windows 7
[03:32] <easyOnMe> anyone here who has been a web master
[03:32] <easyOnMe> or who is currently doing web server admin
[03:32] <easyOnMe> got some issues of my own here
[03:32] <aeon-ltd> alexbird: if you have no data on it you could try reformatting it, maybe fat32 instead?
[03:32] <easyOnMe> I just installed wordpress
[03:32] <nmatrix9> Ionic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11864846/
[03:33] <easyOnMe> in my public_html folder
[03:33] <alexbird> aeon, I have documents I want to access from ubuntu
[03:33] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, easy on the enter please
[03:33] <easyOnMe> yet when I visit my url www.websmith.link
[03:33] <easyOnMe> the site still says website under construction
[03:34] <Ionic> some day I really have to restart my browser...
[03:34] <Ionic> crawling away...
[03:34] <Ionic> nmatrix9: are you positive you're on vivid? this looks like trusty
[03:34] <easyOnMe> I do not know why it does not point the url to my wordpress even if my wordpress uses the www.websmith.link url as the site address
[03:34] <Ionic> (because 331 is the lastest version on trusty)
[03:35] <moobase> bad idea to set firefox disk cache folder to /tmp/forefox_tmp/ (ramdisk)?
[03:35] <Ionic> nmatrix9: please show /etc/issue and /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[03:36] <OerHeks> Ionic, he is sparse with info, yes he is on 14.04 with the 3.19 kernel manually installed. i stopped looking for solutions.
[03:36] <Ionic> moobase: yes. totally stupid. firefox already has a memory cache
[03:37] <Ionic> if you don't want it to use a disk cache, disable it in its settings
[03:37] <Ionic> OerHeks: that's trusty, not vivid. wut?
[03:37] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I installed 3.19 manually
[03:37] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I installed the kernel manually
[03:37] <moobase> Ionic: if I do that, it won't use a cache at all afaik?
[03:37] <Ionic> 3.19 is available in trusty through updates
[03:38] <Ionic> moobase: aren't there two options - one for disk, one for memory?
[03:38] <Ionic> nmatrix9: if you're on trusty, 331 is as far as you'll get for nvidia. and this is incompatible with 3.19... you'll have to downgrade to 3.18 or even lower
[03:38] <Ionic> 346 is available on vivid only
[03:38] <Ionic> (and you said vivid before, so I'm confuzius nao)
[03:39] <nmatrix9> Ionic, ok Iam starting to see the picture
[03:39] <moobase> Ionic: no. That's why most solutions moves the disk path to a ram disk. Why do that if the cache was in ram in the first place?
[03:41] <Ionic> moobase: mh, yeah, I seem to remember wrongly
[03:41] <Ionic> well, if you really want to, go ahead. but the file will be gone every time you restart, not sure how well firefox handles this.
[03:41] <Ionic> and it'll obviously eat away your memory
[03:42] <Ionic> I'm already fed up with firefox using 6 GB of memory as-is
[03:43] <Ionic> nmatrix9: you could also patch nvidia-331 but I have no idea how to do this on ubuntu/debian and don't have the patches at hand (they are on my gentoo partition, can't access this easily from OS X)
[03:43] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I think I'll just downgrade to 3.16
[03:44] <easyOnMe> how do I find webserver or webserveradmin channels in freenode
[03:44] <Ionic> are you sure 3.18 isn't enough?
[03:45] <Ionic> I seriously can't remember which version broke the driver
[03:45] <Ionic> must have been something in this range, definitely 3.19 is broken already
[03:45] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I don't even see 3.18 option in synaptic
[03:45] <Foxhoundz> easyOnMe: alis
[03:45] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I'll play it safe 3.16 for now
[03:46] <easyOnMe> Foxhoundz: how to use alis
[03:46] <Ionic> nmatrix9: oh, yeah, it goes from 3.16 to 3.19...
[03:46] <nmatrix9> Ionic, crap ok I'll stick with 3.13 then
[03:46] <Foxhoundz>  easyOnMe try /msg alis help
[03:46] <Foxhoundz> for starters
[03:46] <easyOnMe> Foxhoundz: ok thanks
[03:47] <Ionic> nmatrix9: huh? no, 3.16 is fine
[03:47] <nicomachus> does anyone know why Chrome does this?: https://imgur.com/hSTXtcj
[03:47] <nmatrix9> Ionic, ok
[03:47] <Ionic> canonical neve rpackages 3.17 or 3.18 for trusty-updates though
[03:47] <nicomachus> creates a separate launcher icon for the open process
[03:47] <easyOnMe> Foxhoundz: i do not know what is wrong
[03:47] <easyOnMe> it seems that the command you gave me is not working
[03:47] <Foxhoundz> easyOnMe: try /msg alis list web
[03:47] <Ionic> nmatrix9: also, you lied to me, I'm disappointed and sad
[03:47] <easyOnMe> ok thanks
[03:47] <Foxhoundz> This is an IRC command
[03:47] <Foxhoundz> <_<
[03:48] <easyOnMe> Foxhoundz: did work man
[03:48] <nmatrix9> Ionic, about the cookie in the cookie jar?
[03:48] <Ionic> nmatrix9: about telling me you're on vivid
[03:49] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I thought I was on vivid
[03:49] <Ionic> nmatrix9: I WILL NEVER TALK TO YOU AGAIN!
[03:49] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[03:49] <Ionic> but seriously, tru downgrading
[03:50] <nmatrix9> Ionic, that's what Iam trying to do right now
[03:50] <Ionic> also, you probably should upgrade to vivid one day (and thus to 346)
[03:51] <nmatrix9> Ionic, Someday . . . but today is definitely not that day.
[03:57] <nmatrix9> Ionic, Iam gonna reboot into 3.16  now
[03:58] <nmatrix9> Ionic, pray for me
[04:03] <kryptofreak> hi im trying to get youtube to work on fire fox ive already sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:04] <kryptofreak> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[04:04] <kryptofreak> sudo apt-get update
[04:04] <kryptofreak> sudo apt-get install freshplayerplugin
[04:04] <the0_> hello all newbie to ubuntu here :) I have just finished installing 14.04 and I have a question, i "installed" a package using the terminal now I need to open the gui what would my command be ?
[04:06] <beepie> the0_, you're trying to go back to the graphical session? you hit ctl-alt+arrow-key(left or right) to cycle through tty1,tty2,..
[04:09] <the0_> beepie thanks for the response, let me clarify, these are the commands i used in terminal sudo apt get
[04:09] <the0_> sudo apt get update
[04:09] <the0_> sudo aptget install
[04:10] <the0_> now i need to launch the gui of the package
[04:10] <beepie> the0_, apt-get update, downloads the latest index of software from the repos, apt-get install <package>  should have passed without errors, if it did then you may not see your app in the desktop menu
[04:11] <beepie> the0_, that's a plugin btw
[04:11] <beepie> the0_, you'll have to consult the application that uses it
[04:11] <Tex_Nick> the0_: a typical app onstall would be sudo apt-get install appName
[04:11] <skits> Hopefully quick one. Is there anything off the top of your/all of your head/s that would cause proftp in Ubuntu 14.10 to suddenly start timing out at welcome with no changes and running fine for weeks?
[04:12] <beepie> the0_, if you saw the dependencies (base application package) get installed, then it should be in the menu
[04:12] <skits> Google brought up inetd but its in standalone and the ftp stuff in inetd is disabled/#'ed out
[04:12] <kryptofreak> help pls
[04:12] <Tex_Nick> the0 what did you install
[04:12] <beepie> the0_, otherwise it's not a well crafted plugin package
[04:12] <the0_> i am beepie , it's documentation sates  "after installation launch gui that should be all you need to do
[04:13] <beepie> the0_, you didn't see if other packages installed? you should know what application name uses that plugin then use- -> apt-cache search <application name>
[04:13] <beepie> the0_, dpkg -l <package> would say if its installed
[04:13] <beepie> the0_, then it should be in menu
[04:14] <the0_> let me check
[04:15] <AndroidHacker> anyone know of a reverse apt-get build-dep?
[04:17] <skits> nm, figured it out. Thank you though (It was a local issue with an isp stutter/packet loss issue)
[04:17]  * skits waves bye
[04:17] <Ionic> nmatrix9: loks like it worked fine
[04:21] <the0_> beepie, ok it installed successfully but the app in my sidebar is not what it is supposed to be , it seams to bring up a login page for something called launchpad, is this common
[04:22] <easyOnMe> hello
[04:22] <easyOnMe> if I use ssl
[04:22] <easyOnMe> where do I find the ssl file that contains the keys
[04:23] <easyOnMe> in my ubuntu
[04:23] <nmatrix9> Ionic, actually Iam back on 3.19, the 3.16 failed to boot got missing modules error on boot
[04:23] <AndroidHacker> ~/.ssl
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !ssl | easyOnMe
[04:23] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: what do you mean
[04:23] <easyOnMe> by !ssl |
[04:23] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, ~/.ssl folder
[04:23] <easyOnMe> please explain
[04:24] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: thanks
[04:24] <AndroidHacker> n/p
[04:24] <AndroidHacker> thats generally where it is unless i suppose configured differently.. but default
[04:24] <AndroidHacker> !ssl
[04:25] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I do not see the ~/.ssl folder but when I press ctrl H I see a .ssh folder
[04:25] <easyOnMe> is this the one that I am going to use for my sftp
[04:25] <AndroidHacker> yes
[04:26] <AndroidHacker> ~/ is your home folder
[04:26] <AndroidHacker> so, /home/USERNAME/.ssl
[04:27] <SuperLag> if you have access to a box, how can you tell if the original install was for ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop?
[04:27] <rypervenche> easyOnMe: You are looking for your SSH keys. So they will be in ~/.ssh not ~/.ssl
[04:27] <AndroidHacker> crap sorry thats what i meant
[04:27] <rypervenche> easyOnMe: The keys ending in .pub are your public keys. The ones without .pub are your private keys.
[04:27] <AndroidHacker> ~/.ssh
[04:27] <Ionic> nmatrix9: missing modules? like what? did it fail booting early, like in the initrd?
[04:28] <AndroidHacker> SuperLag, lsd_release -a?
[04:28] <AndroidHacker> lsb*
[04:28] <easyOnMe> rypervenche: ok thanks
[04:28] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, sorry for that brainfart
[04:28] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: no problem man
[04:28] <Mr_Krol> anyone uses touchpad mouses?
[04:28] <easyOnMe> all of us commit errors
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> Mr_Krol: a lot of people do
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> what's your question?
[04:29] <SuperLag> AndroidHacker: Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[04:29] <moobase> okay.. so the process systemd-journald   is waking up my sencondary idling disk /dev/sdb whole the time. What business does it have with a sleeping disk im not using?
[04:29] <SuperLag> it doesn't specify
[04:29] <Mr_Krol> what are the good brands for ubuntu?
[04:29] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, end of life, no longer supported.  recommend immediate upgrade
[04:29] <SuperLag> Mr_Krol: good brands?
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Mr_Krol, brands????
[04:29] <AndroidHacker> well, technically ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop are identical if im not mistaken, besides the packages that are installed by default
[04:30] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Mr_Krol
[04:30] <Mr_Krol> i was taking about companies that work well in ubuntu for the mouses
[04:30] <AndroidHacker> SuperLag, did u see my comment?
[04:30] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I know, i know. It's in the plans, but I need to plan this out. This box is incredibly important to the customer, and I'm not sure how to handle it, yet. Was thinking about cloning it, and upgrading the VM, as testing.
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Mr_Krol, most mice work.  bluetooth can be problematic.
[04:31] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, sounds like a plan
[04:31] <easyOnMe> rypervenche: just curious though
[04:31] <rypervenche> SuperLag: That would be smart. Keep a backup once you do the real upgrade.
[04:31] <easyOnMe> I create my ssh keys last year
[04:31] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: what's the best way to clone it? rsync?
[04:31] <easyOnMe> but with a different brand of linux
[04:31] <easyOnMe> linux mint
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !mint | easyOnMe
[04:32] <viju> I want to upgrade to 14, the LTS version but not sure why. I am running 12 LTS, is it worth upgrading?
[04:32] <easyOnMe> and then sometime last year I need to re install
[04:32] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, that doesnt really matter
[04:32] <rypervenche> easyOnMe: That won't matter. I'm assuming it's a 2048-bit RSA key?
[04:32] <viju> how*
[04:32] <AndroidHacker> they're still ssh keys
[04:32] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, there is a way, but I've never done it.
[04:32] <easyOnMe> rypervenche: that one I am not sure
[04:32] <easyOnMe> now I am using the same laptop but with ubuntu linux
[04:32] <rypervenche> cfhowlett: Not a relevant ubottu message...he's not using Mint right now...
[04:32] <easyOnMe> will this ssh keys still be valid when I connect to my vps
[04:32] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, its compatible.. its just like transferring a file
[04:33] <Mr_Krol> i got a logitech and seems be working nice
[04:33] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[04:33] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, yes it will
[04:33] <AndroidHacker> as long as its the correct ssh key
[04:33] <easyOnMe> so it does not really matter what brand of linux you use when you generate the ssh keys with your vps
[04:33] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[04:33] <easyOnMe> thanks for that
[04:33] <AndroidHacker> correct
[04:33] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: you're cool man
[04:33] <rypervenche> easyOnMe: You won't have any problems except maybe making sure the permissions are correct on the files. :)
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> you can generate ssh keys on redhat and use them on mint or any other distro
[04:34] <easyOnMe> well I am luck I save the ssh folder when I installed ubuntu
[04:34] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: is there any way to download the Lucid desktop installer? I only see the server version available on the kernel.org mirrors. The only reason I'm asking is to get as close to the installed version, as possible.
[04:34] <easyOnMe> I still have the file backup with me
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> thats good
[04:34] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, you can still find lucid in the archives.
[04:34] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: oh so that's how it works
[04:34] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: thanks
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> no problem
[04:34] <easyOnMe> learning a lot from you man
[04:34] <easyOnMe> you guys are cool
[04:35] <beepie> easyOnMe, you need to be able to login with password then use ssh-copy-id
[04:35] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[04:35] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I can pastebin a screenshot of the boot
[04:35]  * beepie says rather prior, use ssh-copy-id, not login with ssh 
[04:36] <nmatrix9> Ionic, it gave up waiting for boot device
[04:36]  * beepie says you need to have the public key copied to the server before it can be used
[04:36] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: thank you. Much appreciated.
[04:36] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, happy2help!
[04:36] <AndroidHacker> SuperLag, theres a great program called timeshift
[04:36] <AndroidHacker> if u have GUI access
[04:36] <AndroidHacker> it uses rsync
[04:36] <AndroidHacker> but its all automated
[04:37] <SuperLag> AndroidHacker: I do have GUI access.
[04:37] <easyOnMe> beepie: thanks for the info
[04:37] <AndroidHacker> SuperLag, timeshift is similar in a since to basically TAR'ing the entire / filesystem while preserving perms and whatnot
[04:38] <AndroidHacker> but its fast
[04:38] <beepie> ssh-copy-id basically adds the public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on the server side
[04:38] <AndroidHacker> should be authorized_keys
[04:39] <kartik_> how to dwonload and  install  idm
[04:39] <AndroidHacker> or maybe i am wrong?
[04:39] <AndroidHacker> SuperLag, http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html
[04:39] <beepie> AndroidHacker, if you're unsure you can check the manpage, it'll say the name of the file
[04:40] <Ionic> nmatrix9: hum, that means your initrd probably wasn't created correctly for some reason
[04:40] <AndroidHacker> ive just always used authorized_keys but maybe it varies
[04:40] <Ionic> sudo update-initramfs -c -k all might do that for you
[04:41] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: filezilla needs me to open id_rsa file
[04:41] <easyOnMe> when I chose the file it came with this message
[04:41] <AndroidHacker> huh?
[04:42] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: http://imgur.com/FZNLNUV
[04:42] <nmatrix9> Ionic, that's it?
[04:42] <easyOnMe> I think the answer to the question is yes right
[04:43] <moobase> lol, why is the task bar always at the top instead of the bottom in linux?
[04:43] <nmatrix9> moobase because gravity
[04:43] <AndroidHacker> uhh, i dont know wtf exactly its saying.. but i would just use the built in file manager for FTP
[04:43] <Ionic> nmatrix9: well go ahead and try. this command should generate all missing initrd's
[04:43] <brandonphuong> I'm formatting my USB stick to mount an .ISO, I've googled for a while now and I'm wondering what the difference between "mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1" and "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1" is
[04:44] <brandonphuong> Are they just two different ways of acheiving the same thing
[04:44] <nmatrix9> Ionic, well Iam hoping it doesn't make it any worse!
[04:44] <nmatrix9> Ionic, be right back
[04:45] <Ionic> no, can't make it any worse
[04:45] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, please make a spare copy of your private key and put it in another directoy
[04:45] <nmatrix9> Ionic, pray for me
[04:45] <AndroidHacker> and i suppose you could try it
[04:45] <AndroidHacker> but please, make a backup first of the key
[04:45] <nmatrix9> Ionic, or drink a beer for me
[04:46] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, also, what is the permissions on your id_rsa file?
[04:46] <AndroidHacker> shoudl be 600
[04:46] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: how will I know the permission
[04:47] <easyOnMe> now I am having difficulty as I could not open the id_rsa file
[04:47] <easyOnMe> even if I got the correct passphrase
[04:47] <AndroidHacker> OH
[04:47] <AndroidHacker> you have a password with your key?
[04:48] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, ls -l <file_name> will give you the permissions
[04:48]  * beepie uses alias ll='ls -AldF --group-directories-first *'
[04:48] <beepie> :p
[04:48] <AndroidHacker> it should say -rw-------
[04:49] <beepie> AndroidHacker, passphrase != password
[04:49] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yes it id
[04:49] <AndroidHacker> ah, sorry, dont know much about ssh
[04:49] <easyOnMe> -rw---------- 1
[04:49] <AndroidHacker> just know how to use it
[04:49] <beepie> AndroidHacker, setting a passphrase for the key is only decrypted locally
[04:49] <AndroidHacker> oh ok i did not know that
[04:49] <beepie> AndroidHacker, so if someone steals your private key they can't access it unless they know the passphrase
[04:49] <easyOnMe> beepie: so how will I allow the file to be opened then
[04:50] <AndroidHacker> maybe that could be why his client is not allowing him to use it beepie ?
[04:50] <beepie> AndroidHacker, the passphrase is 100% separate from the server side
[04:50] <brandonphuong> Does anyone know the diffrence between commands: "mkfs -t vfat" and "mkfs.vfat" ?
[04:50] <AndroidHacker> beepie, yea i totally forgot about that.. thanks
[04:50] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, i would go commandline come
[04:50] <AndroidHacker> mode*
[04:51] <beepie> AndroidHacker, think of it as a "zip"-password kind of thing, but the zip file contains the actual key file for the ssh process
[04:51] <AndroidHacker> right right
[04:51] <beepie> AndroidHacker, you can use ssh-agent to store passphrases so you don't have to remember them
[04:51] <beepie> AndroidHacker, (ssh-agent protects the passphrases in it's own encryption container)
[04:51] <rypervenche> brandonphuong: They are the same thing.
[04:51] <AndroidHacker> anything similar to like a keyring?
[04:52] <brandonphuong> Thanks rypervenche
[04:52] <TragicM3LON> anyone have exp with LIRC?
[04:52] <Ionic> nmatrix9: still nothing?
[04:52] <nmatrix9> Ionic, still the same let me post a image of the boot error first so you can see the errors given
[04:53] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, what exactly are you trying to transfer?? you can just use scp
[04:53] <_Raiz> Does ubuntu comes with non-free software pre-installed?
[04:53] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I want to uploade my app that uses the recent version of codeigniter
[04:54] <xangua> _Raiz: yes, do you have an ubunt support question¿
[04:54] <Ionic> nmatrix9: I won't be around too long... actually I should go to bed about now
[04:54] <_Raiz> What is the non-free software it comes with by default?
[04:54] <nmatrix9> Ionic, http://imagebin.ca/v/28L8Q4ZvuB7R
[04:54] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, oh ok.. do you know how to use scp?
[04:54] <eguneys> I can't display unicode echo -e '\u03bb' outputs \u03bb. please help
[04:54] <easyOnMe> no
[04:55] <MACscr> anyone doing bonding on their 14.04 servers and havent had the greatest luck using the method described on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:55] <beepie> _Raiz, you'd have to check the ubuntu wiki to turn on univers,multivers, ..etc..
[04:55] <Ionic> nmatrix9: okay, the initramfs exists, but it's not including the right modules. maybe sudo update-initramfs -u -k all helps?
[04:55] <beepie> _Raiz, and "restricted" repositories in order to use those
[04:56] <nmatrix9> Ionic, Ok I thought I did that command before
[04:56] <Ionic> nmatrix9: you did -c for create before
[04:56] <Ionic> -u will update all initrd's
[04:56] <TragicM3LON> if anyone can help with this i'll be forever greatful. I got 2 Raspberry Pi devices to stream from. They both use the Apple TV Remote. Now when I use controller A it controls both A and B. If i use controller B it does same thing?
[04:56] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, the scp syntax is as follows -> scp /home/user/file.zip sshuser@sshserver.com:/path/to/dest
[04:57] <Ionic> fun fact: if you slice grapes almost in half, put them into a microwave and turn the microwave on, you'll get bursts of plasma
[04:57] <AndroidHacker> so, basically exactly the same as cp command
[04:57] <MACscr> TragicM3LON: how is that not expected?
[04:57] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yup
[04:57] <TragicM3LON> MACscr, i dunno
[04:57] <TragicM3LON> i'm new to this shit
[04:57] <beepie> TragicM3LON, try putting one of the rpi in another room
[04:57] <easyOnMe> so in my case its like this
[04:57] <TragicM3LON> they are in diff rooms
[04:57] <beepie> TragicM3LON, lol
[04:57] <nmatrix9> Ionic, yeah it is late I'll reboot one last time either way I'll update you tomorrow
[04:57] <MACscr> just like if you have two tv's that are the same model, you will have the same issue
[04:58] <beepie> TragicM3LON, dunno
[04:58] <AndroidHacker> shoulda got something better than the rpi2
[04:58] <AndroidHacker> =[
[04:58] <MACscr> has nothign to do with the rpi
[04:58] <TragicM3LON> it's not the poi
[04:58] <easyOnMe> scp /var/www/html/codeigniter/ 123.123.123.123@digitalocean.com:/var/www/
[04:58] <TragicM3LON> something to do with lirc
[04:58] <easyOnMe> now my question is this
[04:58] <MACscr> the rpi2 is great for streaming
[04:58] <MACscr> TragicM3LON: no, its the remotes. they both send the same singal
[04:58] <easyOnMe> thing is I prefer the drag and drop gui of filezilla
[04:59] <easyOnMe> makes me know where I am at the directory structure
[04:59] <MACscr> i dont know why you would think anythign different
[04:59] <TragicM3LON> right, but when i programmed them, i would hvae thought ithe'yd be different commands
[04:59] <MACscr> you thought wrong
[04:59] <TragicM3LON> obviously
[04:59] <MACscr> this is basic and has nothing to do with computers
[05:00] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, your command is mostly correct except you need the -r (for recursion) because its a directory
[05:00] <AndroidHacker> or, when using a directory
[05:00] <MACscr> how else do you think you can buy a replacement remote for a device unless it uses the same commands as the old one?
[05:00] <easyOnMe> so can you show me the correct command then
[05:00] <easyOnMe> please
[05:00] <TragicM3LON> well you have to program them in
[05:00] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, scp -r /var/www/html... ...
[05:00] <TragicM3LON> but ya i get what you're saying
[05:00] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: at this stage
[05:01] <MACscr> most IR remotes send the same thing. RF remotes can work a bit differently sometimes
[05:01] <easyOnMe> can i just generate a new ssh key with my droplet in digital ocean(DO)
[05:01] <MACscr> TragicM3LON: easy solution is to just buy a different remote for your second one
[05:01] <TragicM3LON> MACscr, so is there no way to edit the lircd. to fix it
[05:01] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: have you tried using droplets in DO before
[05:01] <nmatrix9> Ionic, didn't work
[05:01] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, well do you have access to the machine currently?
[05:01] <MACscr> no, the issue again is the remote
[05:01] <TragicM3LON> ok
[05:01] <MACscr> they are the same thing
[05:01] <easyOnMe> I have
[05:01] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, yes, i know DO and vultr
[05:02] <Ionic> nmatrix9: okay, that means more debugging is needed, I don't have any recommendation as-is
[05:02] <easyOnMe> thing is I forgot some to the commands
[05:02] <nmatrix9> Ionic, ok
[05:02] <MACscr> TragicM3LON: personally i prefer 2.4ghz remotes with my media clients
[05:02] <nmatrix9> Ionic, go to bed we can talk later
[05:02] <MACscr> have a small keyboard on them as well and are only about $15
[05:02] <easyOnMe> I remember I was just following the tutorial on configuring my server strictly using the tutorial provided by DO
[05:02] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, just generate ssh key pair on your pc and then scp the id_rsa.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:02] <easyOnMe> thing is I failed to note down the exact commands I used before
[05:03] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: can I just use filezilla
[05:03] <Ionic> nmatrix9: night, not sure I'll have time (or ideas) though
[05:03] <easyOnMe> I want a visual of the directory structure where I am uploading my folders
[05:03] <easyOnMe> to my vps
[05:03] <AndroidHacker> whatever you can do to get id_rsa.pub on your server @ ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:04] <nmatrix9> Ionic, I appreciate you helping me either way
[05:04] <AndroidHacker> whether CLI or GUI
[05:04] <nmatrix9> Ionic, thanks
[05:04] <AndroidHacker> doesnt matter
[05:05] <eguneys> I can't display unicode echo -e '\u03bb' outputs \u03bb. please help
[05:05] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, all you need to do is wipe out your existing ssh keys IF you want to start fresh
[05:05] <AndroidHacker> then run "ssh-keygen -t rsa"
[05:05] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: but I need to connect to my DO droplet right
[05:05] <AndroidHacker> and copy the pub file
[05:06] <AndroidHacker> no, not to generate the key
[05:06] <easyOnMe> I am now looking for that tutorial in DO
[05:06] <AndroidHacker> that tutorial will just confuse you
[05:06] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: but thing is in my .ssh folder right now
[05:06] <easyOnMe> I also have some keys there that I generated when I connected to github
[05:06] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[05:07] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: so you mind walking me through the steps
[05:07] <AndroidHacker> well u can name the keys anything you want
[05:07] <easyOnMe> please
[05:07] <AndroidHacker> ok
[05:07] <AndroidHacker> right now, on your PC run ssh-keygen -t rsa
[05:08] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: in the ubuntu terminal you mean
[05:08] <AndroidHacker> yes
[05:09] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: Enter file in which to save the key (/home/erwin/.ssh/id_rsa):
[05:09] <easyOnMe> what shall I do
[05:09] <easyOnMe> provide the file name
[05:09] <easyOnMe> I mean a new file name
[05:09] <AndroidHacker> when it asks you to store the file in home/user/.ssh/idrsa bla bla bla.. enter in a new directly, like /home/bob/newkey/id_rsa
[05:09] <AndroidHacker> or give it a diff name
[05:09] <easyOnMe> ok
[05:09] <easyOnMe> wait
[05:10] <OerHeks> "wait" :-D
[05:10]  * AndroidHacker waits
[05:11]  * beepie frozen on beep
[05:11] <AndroidHacker> lol
[05:13] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: sorry man
[05:13] <AndroidHacker> no prob
[05:13] <easyOnMe> I just completed it
[05:13] <easyOnMe> now I have the keys
[05:13] <easyOnMe> how will I use to communicate with my droplet in do then
[05:13] <AndroidHacker> ok'
[05:13] <vkss> guys , my power inidicator on ubuntu 14.04 is not updating. Any solution
[05:13] <beepie> what's a droplet ? dropbox shutff and sthings?
[05:14] <AndroidHacker> no beepie, VPS
[05:14] <easyOnMe> beepie: yeha vps
[05:15] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, run this in terminal (adjust accordingly) - "scp ~/somedir/new_key.pub user@server.com:/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:15] <AndroidHacker> wait
[05:15] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok
[05:15] <AndroidHacker> sorry lol im a moron
[05:15] <AndroidHacker> wait
[05:15] <AndroidHacker> no nevermind, you can do that
[05:16] <Tex_Nick> rofl
[05:16] <AndroidHacker> go ahead and edit that command and run it
[05:16]  * AndroidHacker is truly a moron
[05:17] <vkss> hi  my power inidicator on ubuntu 14.04 is not updating. Any solution
[05:18] <AndroidHacker> do what the normal computer user does.. pound the keyboard, smash the monitor, cuss and yell
[05:19] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: man
[05:19] <easyOnMe> just one sec
[05:20] <AndroidHacker> ok
[05:20] <easyOnMe> I am trying to connect to my drople via ssh command
[05:20] <easyOnMe> I am not able to
[05:20] <AndroidHacker> did u run the scp command and it went thru ok?
[05:20] <easyOnMe> I am using this ssh -p username@104.236.56.167
[05:20] <AndroidHacker> ??
[05:20] <easyOnMe> I am not able to log in to the droplet's terminal
[05:20] <AndroidHacker> what about the scp command
[05:20] <easyOnMe> no I am not uploading files yet
[05:21] <AndroidHacker> no, you run scp from your terminal, NOT on the server
[05:21] <easyOnMe> I am just trying to check whether I can go is
[05:21] <easyOnMe> yeah I got that
[05:21] <AndroidHacker> and why are u using -p for?
[05:21] <easyOnMe> but what I am doing right now is trying to connect to my own droplet
[05:21] <easyOnMe> it was the command I joted down back then when I did this command
[05:22] <easyOnMe> part of the tutorial from DO
[05:22] <AndroidHacker> no, its just ssh user@server
[05:22] <easyOnMe> back then i am able to connect
[05:22] <beepie> AndroidHacker, who calls VPS a droplet?
[05:22] <AndroidHacker> unless you use a different port
[05:22] <easyOnMe> yup
[05:22] <AndroidHacker> -p is for port
[05:22] <AndroidHacker> beepie, digitalocean.com, a vps provider, calls them "droplets"
[05:23] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: could it be that my configuration in DO has changed
[05:23] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, this is not that difficult
[05:23] <easyOnMe> as the droplet's ip addressed has also changed
[05:23] <AndroidHacker> you said you had access to the vps
[05:24] <easyOnMe> I remember my ip addressed was changed when I got delayed in my payments
[05:24] <AndroidHacker> ok but that doesnt matter
[05:24] <easyOnMe> so when I got my droplet restarted I got a new ip
[05:24] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yup
[05:24] <AndroidHacker> if your running a vps you should know how to get to it
[05:24] <easyOnMe> I just want to access again its been two months since I accessed it
[05:24] <AndroidHacker> just use the web interface on the digitalocean website
[05:25] <easyOnMe> I used succeed accessing it
[05:25] <easyOnMe> now I am wondering what I did wrong
[05:25] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, i would switch to vultr.com - faster SSDs, and about 20% cheaper
[05:25] <AndroidHacker> also faster cores
[05:25] <AndroidHacker> and you can get 50 dollar credit for a new account
[05:25] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok I will take note on that
[05:25] <OerHeks> make sure the keys have #600 and the ~/.ssh folder has #700 permissions
[05:26] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: but I got to go through the hussles of setting and configuring my server again
[05:26] <AndroidHacker> i highly doubt you did that much setup considering you cant even connect to it =]
[05:26] <AndroidHacker> haha i had to say that sorry im just kidding
[05:27] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, whenever u get SSH access working properly, use the scp command to copy the key
[05:27] <AndroidHacker> and you should be good
[05:27] <easyOnMe> ok
[05:27] <easyOnMe> hahah
[05:27] <easyOnMe> lol
[05:27] <AndroidHacker> you might need to add the local ssh key to your ssh-agent, but thats another story
[05:27] <easyOnMe> you really wanted me to use scp instead of sftp
[05:28] <AndroidHacker> it doesnt matter how the file gets there, it just needs to get there
[05:29] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok
[05:29] <easyOnMe> which one is more secure though
[05:30] <easyOnMe> scp or sftp
[05:31] <Smedles> hi all...
[05:31] <Smedles> just moved my ubuntu server install to a new server - checking dmesg logs, I'm seeing messages like:
[05:31] <Smedles> [30477.770946]  sdc: unknown partition table
[05:31] <Smedles> [30477.839805]  sdd: unknown partition table
[05:31] <Smedles> periodically....
[05:31] <Tex_Nick> aren't they both OpenSSH based . so 128bit rsa ?
[05:31] <Smedles> sdc is a ssd with the OS on it
[05:32] <Smedles> sdd is a microsd card used for grub and swap
[05:33] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, i dunno
[05:34] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok
[05:34] <easyOnMe> thanks man
[05:34] <easyOnMe> I keep you posted once I am done
[05:34] <AndroidHacker> n/p
[05:34] <easyOnMe> how long have you been using vultr by the way
[05:34] <AndroidHacker> Smedles, what u using? udoo?
[05:34] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, about 6 months
[05:34] <AndroidHacker> i switched from DO
[05:34] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[05:35] <AndroidHacker> also, you can install custom ISOs with vulr
[05:35] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: are you a developer too
[05:35] <AndroidHacker> does my name not give you a clue ? ;)
[05:35] <AndroidHacker> android dev yes
[05:35] <Smedles> AndroidHacker: udoo? os is ubuntu server 15.04
[05:36] <marcos_> hello, i'm using ubuntu!! :D
[05:37] <AndroidHacker> Smedles, nevermind..
[05:37] <marcos_> I return after a long time...
[05:38] <marcos_> I was forgetting many things
[05:39] <AndroidHacker> you aint missed nothing great, i assure you that
[05:41] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I manage to access my droplet in my console
[05:42] <easyOnMe> when I run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <easyOnMe> it run everything but in the end there is a message
[05:42] <easyOnMe> 3 not upgraded
[05:42] <easyOnMe> I run sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <easyOnMe> still it says 3 not upgrade
[05:42] <easyOnMe> what shall I do to upgrade those 3 stuff
[05:43] <easyOnMe> what command shall I use to force ubuntu to upgrade
[05:43] <cfhowlett> force?  don't force!
[05:43] <AndroidHacker> its not upgrading for a reason
[05:43] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, they were not upgraded for good reason.
[05:43] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: why
[05:43] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: why
[05:44] <AndroidHacker> most likely package confliction
[05:44] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[05:44] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, when the packages are ready, the upgrade will work.  patience.   also: from time to time: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade          to get new kernels and packages.
[05:44] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: thanks for that advice
[05:45] <easyOnMe> I learn a new thing again
[05:45] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, i forget but does the DO terminal support copy/paste on the command line?
[05:46] <AndroidHacker> if not, figure out why you cant connect to it.. maybe you dont know the password?
[05:46] <AndroidHacker> im not sure why you are having so many problems
[05:47] <marcos_> hi
[05:47] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, right now on the vps terminal, see if a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file exists... i bet this is why you cant connect
[05:47] <AndroidHacker> if it does, wipe it
[05:48] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok hang on
[05:48] <easyOnMe> I was issuing sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:49] <easyOnMe> I just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it upgraded those 3 items I was referring to
[05:49] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, ls ~/.ssh/autho*
[05:49] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, see?  fixed itself.  without force.
[05:49] <easyOnMe> cfhowlett: yeah
[05:50] <easyOnMe> thanks for the advice man
[05:50] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, happy2help!
[05:50] <MarcW> what is the point of encrypting "home folder" if we use full disk encryption? I don't get why Ubuntu install propose both at the same time.
[05:51] <marcos_> h
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> MarcW: Full disk stuff is decrypted the entire time the system is on, whereas home folders are only decrypted while the user is logged in.
[05:52] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: it gave me this root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:52] <marcos_> a
[05:52] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, rm -rf ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:53] <beepie> MarcW, because it can slow disk access
[05:53] <beepie> MarcW, to a crawl
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: dist-upgrade.
[05:54] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: successfully removed
[05:54] <moobase> is there a keyboard shortcut for "pasting" marked text instead of clicking the middle mouse button?
[05:55] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: now what
[05:55] <AndroidHacker> now try to connect to your vps via ssh
[05:55] <AndroidHacker> if it works, scp that file
[05:55] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: hang on
[05:55] <easyOnMe> the command
[05:56] <easyOnMe> sudo apt-get purge is for what purpose
[05:56] <gnomed> Any gnome shell user here?
[05:56] <gnomed> I need help
[05:56] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, please, lets just get this ssh working
[05:56] <AndroidHacker> its been over an houer
[05:56] <AndroidHacker> hour*
[05:57] <MarcW> tonyyarusso, beepie: do u think its necessary to have both at the same time? dont u think its overkill?
[05:57] <Tex_Nick> moobase: in what application, terminal ?
[05:57] <moobase> How do I find out what's causing this? (it's waking my disk up all the time) http://pastebin.com/xCL9PhUX
[05:57] <AndroidHacker> apt-get --purge will remove config files along with the package
[05:57] <moobase> AndroidHacker: is that the right way to uninstall stuff?
[05:57] <AndroidHacker> sudo apt-get remove --purge pkgname
[05:57] <AndroidHacker> moobase, dunno
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> MarcW: Depends entirely on what you're trying to protect against.  Certainly there are situations where both could be appropriate.
[05:59] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: man the terminal is hanging up
[05:59] <easyOnMe> no connection time out
[06:00] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: is it because of the way it was configure back then when I was strictly following the tutorial from DO
[06:00] <AndroidHacker> no
[06:00] <AndroidHacker> maybe you just need to reboot it
[06:00] <AndroidHacker> reboot the server
[06:00] <AndroidHacker> and try ssh again
[06:01] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: when you say reboot you mean
[06:02] <AndroidHacker> i mean reboot
[06:02] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: power off the droplet from DO
[06:02] <easyOnMe> or I reboot my laptop
[06:02] <AndroidHacker> the server
[06:02] <easyOnMe> how do I reboot the server
[06:03] <easyOnMe> so I need to go back to the DO console again
[06:03] <easyOnMe> what command shall I issue then
[06:04] <AndroidHacker> are you totally new to linux?
[06:04] <AndroidHacker> sudo reboot
[06:04] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: just barely one year of using it
[06:04] <marcos_> :)
[06:04] <easyOnMe> but I am happy learning it
[06:04] <easyOnMe> while developing
[06:04] <AndroidHacker> uve been using linux for 1 year and dont know sudo reboot?
[06:05] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yeah
[06:05] <easyOnMe> honestly
[06:05] <AndroidHacker> wow
[06:05] <easyOnMe> the only know I reboot is to use the gui
[06:05] <easyOnMe> shutdown or restart
[06:05] <easyOnMe> I am dummy to linux command at this stage
[06:05] <AndroidHacker> dood, you need to get WAY more acquanted with terminal
[06:06] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yup
[06:06] <AndroidHacker> what happens when your gui crashes?
[06:06] <easyOnMe> rebooting completed
[06:06] <AndroidHacker> because if it hasnt, it will
[06:06] <easyOnMe> I just issued the ssh root@ip_address
[06:06] <easyOnMe> still waiting
[06:07] <easyOnMe> hope no problem this time around
[06:07] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I am wondering how come this time around it is no longer that quick as before
[06:08] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: man connection time out
[06:09] <beepie> easyOnMe, oh sorry I was on the ssh server
[06:09] <beepie> easyOnMe, haha
[06:10] <easyOnMe> beepie: I cannot connect to my vps
[06:10] <darkxploit> hello
[06:10] <easyOnMe> keeps on saying time out
[06:10] <AndroidHacker> ur connecting as root right?
[06:10] <darkxploit> easy on me which vps
[06:10] <AndroidHacker> what about firewall?
[06:11] <beepie> maybe he locked himself out
[06:11] <beepie> nice
[06:11] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: yup
[06:11] <AndroidHacker> go back to the do term
[06:11] <easyOnMe> alright
[06:11] <darkxploit> use telnet <ipaadress of ur vps> 22
[06:11] <easyOnMe> which terminal
[06:11] <AndroidHacker> sudo ufw status
[06:11] <easyOnMe> my laptop or the server's terminal
[06:11] <AndroidHacker> server
[06:12] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: it says active
[06:12] <the0_> ok does anyone have any experience using the fingerprint-gui, im able to make it pass all tests, except only in the ubuntu display (gnome it doesn't work and probably because i installed gnome after i installed the fingerprint stuff) , but even in the standard ubuntu display it still doesn't ask me for my fingerprint scan
[06:12] <AndroidHacker> sudo ufw allow 22
[06:12] <AndroidHacker> ^^
[06:13] <the0_> btw i know for a fact that my hardware is supported, i think its just a config issue
[06:13] <AndroidHacker> or better yet
[06:13] <AndroidHacker> sudo ufw allow from <your_ip_address>
[06:14] <beepie> darkxploit, telnet?
[06:14] <beepie> darkxploit, lol
[06:14] <beepie> darkxploit, nice killer joke
[06:14] <easyOnMe> ok I just issued the command
[06:14] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[06:14] <beepie> darkxploit, use -v with ssh
[06:14] <the0_> hey beepie , help me out here ? :)
[06:14] <easyOnMe> how can I undo it and just allow my ip address only to access
[06:14] <AndroidHacker> just leave it like this for now
[06:14] <AndroidHacker> try to SSH in again
[06:14] <fancyfetus> I'm trying to install windows 10 preview before installing ubuntu along side.
[06:14] <AndroidHacker> and dont close the DO terminal
[06:14] <beepie> the0_, fingerprint scan?
[06:14] <beepie> the0_, wtf is that?
[06:15] <easyOnMe> it says connection refused
[06:15] <easyOnMe> what is going on now man
[06:15] <the0_> http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/documents.php
[06:15] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, goto DO terminal and do - sudo ufw allow from <ip>
[06:15] <beepie> easyOnMe, you did a funny thing, you locked yourself out
 being your IP address, your WAN address
[06:16] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, dood, what port is SSH running on? 22?
[06:16] <AndroidHacker> how did he lock himself out?
[06:17] <beepie> the0_, that's pam stuff
[06:17] <beepie> the0_, what device are you using?/or would be?
[06:17] <the0_> yep , any help ? is there a better channel for that ?
[06:17] <beepie> the0_, dunno, maybe there is
[06:17] <easyOnMe> beepie: how did I lock myself out
[06:17] <the0_> as in my laptop or my biometric scanner ?
[06:18] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, what port is ssh using on your server
[06:18] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I do not know
[06:18] <easyOnMe> why
[06:18] <AndroidHacker> well it matters
[06:18] <the0_> it basically allows me to run one finger across my scanner and it logs me in or give me sudo access when requested
[06:18] <rypervenche> easyOnMe: Did you set AllowUsers in your SSH config?
[06:18] <easyOnMe> how come I cannot connect to my port 22 now after we issued the sudo ufw
[06:18] <easyOnMe> rypervenche: I do not know
[06:19] <easyOnMe> how will I know
[06:19] <AndroidHacker> you shouldnt have to
[06:19] <rypervenche> I know it's in DigitalOcean's documentation for setting up SSH.
[06:19] <AndroidHacker> its automagic
[06:19] <fancyfetus> Why is uefi stuff not more automated yet?
[06:19] <fancyfetus> seems like such a pain in the ass.
[06:19] <beepie> the0_, if the package/setup doesn't setup pam for you, you'll have to edit pam files and that can be tricky, add on top of that anything needed as for modprobing drivers, dbus, etc..  that's why i asked for the device --perhaps there's a wiki already for it
[06:20] <AndroidHacker> im done now
[06:20] <AndroidHacker> good luck
[06:21] <the0_> well if you look at that link, the manual is great and theres even a device specific part for me to follow I just don't know how to get from point a to b, to do it
[06:21] <the0_> let me look up my exact thing again, ill be using lsusb i think
[06:21] <beepie> the0_, so i guess its an sgs thomson you're using
[06:21] <the0_> 147e:1000 Upek Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor
[06:22] <beepie> the0_, if you use lspci -k , it'll show drivers loaded , perhaps one is "loaded" for it
[06:22] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: one more thing
[06:22] <beepie> the0_, if not you'll have to modprobe the right driver
[06:22] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: just this one
[06:22] <easyOnMe> please
[06:22] <easyOnMe> how will I undo the command sudo ufw 22
[06:23] <easyOnMe> how will I undo the command sudo ufw allow 22
[06:23] <easyOnMe> please just this one
[06:23] <easyOnMe> I will try to trace back what I did the last time
[06:23] <the0_> im pretty sure drivers aren't an issue because the fingerprint-gui, has recorded my prints, and tests successful, or do u think i might still need a driver
[06:23] <easyOnMe> just want it back to the way it was
[06:23] <easyOnMe> so that I can retrace my steps
[06:23] <beepie> easyOnMe, depending on your firewall, don't forget you also have to let traffic out, if it's not "ACCEPT" as the default policy
[06:23] <easyOnMe> beepie: ok so I will I undo sudo ufw allow 22
[06:25] <easyOnMe> beepie: what happens if sudo ufw allow 22 is issued as a command
[06:25] <the0_> did you get that beepie
[06:26] <beepie> easyOnMe, i don't use ufw, but you can list items with iptables -L -n , you can temporarily just use an ACCEPT policy if you're just working in a lan environment (iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT, iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT)
[06:27] <beepie> the0_, oh
[06:27] <the0_> does that make sense ?
[06:27] <beepie> the0_, so it's something to do with just usage inside a gui session then
[06:27] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: are you still around
[06:27] <beepie> the0_, you'll have to see if you're missing anything pam
[06:28] <the0_> yes
[06:28] <beepie> the0_, you can verify this in /etc/pam* .. there's guides online i'm sure
[06:28] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: what's the effect of sudo ufw allow 22
[06:28] <AndroidHacker> dont get him started with iptables come on seriously
[06:28] <AndroidHacker> it just opens port 22
[06:28] <beepie> AndroidHacker, nobody is
[06:29] <beepie> knock off the firewall
[06:29] <beepie> :)
[06:29] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, i have about 10 things in my head right now that could be causing this connection problem
[06:29] <beepie> -
[06:29] <beepie> P
[06:29] <AndroidHacker> you could have the config file set to use ssh keys ONLY
[06:29] <beepie> if -P INPUT/OUTPUT ACCEPT still locks out port 22, then it's not a firewall issue
[06:30] <AndroidHacker> right
[06:30] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: likely
[06:30] <easyOnMe> firstly
[06:30] <beepie> easyOnMe, netstat -plutn
[06:30] <beepie> easyOnMe, should say port 22
[06:30] <easyOnMe> I remember I created another account
[06:30] <the0_> The installation package installs default settings for UKEK devices that require NVM emulation. However it might be necessary to fine tune these settings. Below are quoted some excerpts from the documentation for UPEK fingerprint scanners:
[06:30] <beepie> easyOnMe, if it still fails, then it's your routing/networking/driver
[06:31] <the0_> how do i find out if my ukek device requires nvm emulation ?
[06:31] <beepie> easyOnMe, or maybe you did something weird on the client side
[06:31] <easyOnMe> beepie: no it didnt
[06:31] <AndroidHacker> hell i suppose the entire serve could be offline
[06:31] <marcos_> :)
[06:31] <beepie> easyOnMe, you can't even ping the other machine?
[06:31] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, ping google.com
[06:32] <easyOnMe> 64 bytes blab blah
[06:32] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, at this point you might as well just destroy this server and create a new one
[06:32] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: let me try on more time
[06:32] <easyOnMe> to connect ssh to my server
[06:33] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:33] <AndroidHacker> does it say anywhere passwordauth no
[06:33] <AndroidHacker> if it does, change it to yes
[06:34] <the0_> bleepie, did you get that
[06:35] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, also cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep -i port
[06:35] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: you are referring to the terminal in DO right
[06:35] <AndroidHacker> yes
[06:35] <AndroidHacker> please check those both now
[06:36] <AndroidHacker> dam im starting to wonder if you even have sshd installed
[06:37] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, if you want my continued help im going to need some quicker response times please
[06:37] <AndroidHacker> this is dragging out too long
[06:37] <the0_> androidhacker, help me i will answer fast :)
[06:37] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok
[06:37] <easyOnMe> I got it
[06:37] <easyOnMe> it listed a lot of things
[06:37] <AndroidHacker> i know nothing of what u speak the0_ sorry =[
[06:37] <easyOnMe> what details do you need
[06:38] <the0_> and bleepie, the one who does is m.i.a. and uninterested :(
[06:38] <AndroidHacker> easy lets start with cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Password
[06:38] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe,
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe, AndroidHacker: I haven't quite followed this (long) exchange - could you summarize the issue again?
[06:38] <AndroidHacker> cant connect
[06:38] <the0_> tony help me instead :)
[06:39] <beepie> easyOnMe, so you didn't seem to check netstat -plutn haha
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> AndroidHacker: More specific?  I assume trying to connect via SSH obviously, but as which user, and with what type of failure?
[06:39] <beepie> easyOnMe, does it work yet?
[06:39] <the0_> help me beepie!
[06:39] <the0_> lol
[06:39] <AndroidHacker> tonyyarusso, who knows man.. im not getting any info
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> the0_: I don't think I know anything about your issue unfortunately :(
[06:39] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: PermitEmptyPasswords no
[06:39] <easyOnMe> #PasswordAuthentication yes
[06:39] <easyOnMe> # PasswordAuthentication.  Depending on your PAM configuration,
[06:39] <easyOnMe> # PAM authentication, then enable this but set PasswordAuthentication
[06:40] <beepie> the0_, you'd have to check the pam files
[06:40] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, ok
[06:40] <AndroidHacker> next do
[06:40] <beepie> the0_, see if it's all configured properly
[06:40] <the0_> ok, check them for what ?
[06:40] <AndroidHacker> cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep -i port
[06:40] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: let me update you a bit
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: What user are you trying to SSH in with, and what type of failure / error are you getting?
[06:40] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: cannot connect for sftp
[06:41] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, please just run the command
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: "cannot connect" is not specific.  What's happening?
[06:41] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: just now I manage to connect via ssh using a different user and port
[06:41] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: brb to you
[06:41] <easyOnMe> just need to follow AndroidHacker
[06:42] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: PermitEmptyPasswords no
[06:42] <easyOnMe> #PasswordAuthentication yes
[06:42] <easyOnMe> # PasswordAuthentication.  Depending on your PAM configuration,
[06:42] <easyOnMe> # PAM authentication, then enable this but set PasswordAuthentication
[06:42] <easyOnMe> admin@www:~$ cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep -i port
[06:42] <easyOnMe> # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for (Used to be Port 22)
[06:42] <easyOnMe> Port 7777
[06:42] <AndroidHacker> THERES THE PROBLEM
[06:42] <beepie> the0_, maybe this is still relevant - http://fabianrodriguez.com/blog/2008/03/fingerprint-authentication-in-ubuntu/
[06:42] <AndroidHacker> ssh -p 7777 user@server
[06:43] <AndroidHacker> now, go into the server and secure this shit
[06:43] <AndroidHacker> sudo ufw allow from <ip>
[06:43] <easyOnMe> ok
[06:43] <easyOnMe> i did ifconfig
[06:43] <AndroidHacker> no
[06:43] <AndroidHacker> you need your wan ip address of the client
[06:43] <AndroidHacker> your laptop
[06:43] <easyOnMe> youp
[06:44] <easyOnMe> that's what I did earlier
[06:44] <AndroidHacker> ok
[06:44] <easyOnMe> but just to confirm
[06:44] <easyOnMe> i did ifconfig
[06:44] <AndroidHacker> well if your behind a router ifconfig will show you lan ip
[06:44] <AndroidHacker> which will not help you in this case
[06:45] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: this is what I got 222.164.172.202
[06:45] <easyOnMe> when I did the command
[06:45] <easyOnMe> I am just using my own laptop here at home and no lanhere
[06:45] <easyOnMe> her
[06:45] <easyOnMe> here
[06:45] <easyOnMe> so that is my ip address right
[06:46] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, now that you can SSH into this, open a new teminal on laptop and scp sshey.pub user@server:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: Unless you're doing some EXTREMELY weird stuff, which we know you're not because if you were capable of such things you wouldn't be asking these questions, you most certainly have a LAN at home.
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> But it may be transparent :)
[06:47] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: do not get you man
[06:47] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, focus
[06:47] <easyOnMe> I use ifconfig all the time because I do web development
[06:47] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: sorry
[06:48] <AndroidHacker> scp your_sshkey.pub user@server:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[06:48] <moobase> so.. dbus is constantly scanning for new devices? (it's waking my sdb up)
[06:48] <beepie> easyOnMe, you ever done an ssh from "internet->ISP->homeSSHserver" before? (or is this the first time?)
[06:48] <beepie> easyOnMe, if so, then it is possible your ISP can be block regular service ports
[06:48] <beepie> easyOnMe, some ISPs do this
[06:48] <easyOnMe> beepie: I did a few times but not really very familiar in all these stuff
[06:48] <the0_> ok beepie, so when trying to put the changes, it won't let me save because it is a read only, how do i get my permission to change it
[06:48] <easyOnMe> hang on fellas android wants me to do something give me a minute
[06:49] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: you mean like this
[06:49] <AndroidHacker> after you get that ssh key into your auth files you should be golden
[06:49] <the0_> how do you edit an auth file
[06:49] <AndroidHacker> nano?
[06:50] <the0_> i need to add two lines, to /etc/pam.d/common-auth
[06:50] <AndroidHacker> nano <file>
[06:50] <AndroidHacker> sudo it most likely
[06:50] <the0_> ok i was trying to do it in txt editor
[06:50] <AndroidHacker> thats fine too
[06:51] <AndroidHacker> nano is a console text editor
[06:51] <the0_> ok, how do i get sudo permission when editing it
[06:51] <the0_> ahhh
[06:51] <AndroidHacker> just open a terminal and do "sudo gedit <file>
[06:51] <AndroidHacker> or w/e text editor you use
[06:51] <easyOnMe> scp /home/bob/.ssh/do_keys/id_rsa.pub root@104.236.56.156:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[06:52] <AndroidHacker> yea
[06:52] <easyOnMe> ok one sec
[06:52] <AndroidHacker> cept i cant believe you just did that on open channel
[06:54] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ssh: connect to host 104.236.56.156 port 22: Connection refused
[06:54] <easyOnMe> lost connection
[06:54] <AndroidHacker> u need to specify port
[06:54] <AndroidHacker> 7777
[06:54] <easyOnMe> scp /home/bob/.ssh/do_keys/id_rsa.pub -p 7777 root@104.236.56.156:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[06:54] <beepie> easyOnMe, you can speed up ssh logins by using "UseDNS no" in sshd_config
[06:54] <AndroidHacker> no
[06:54] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: how
[06:54] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, scp -P 7777 .......
[06:55] <AndroidHacker> with scp, its capital P
[06:55] <AndroidHacker> ssh is lowercase.. retarded i know
[06:56] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok done
[06:56] <AndroidHacker> k
[06:56] <AndroidHacker> your done
[06:56] <AndroidHacker> and set
[06:56] <AndroidHacker> now u should be able to SSH in without a password
[06:56] <AndroidHacker> well, now you need to add the ssh key on your laptop to the ssh-agent
[06:57] <the0_> ok now that i added those changes how do i restart pam or whatever
[06:57] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: how
[06:57] <easyOnMe> how come I still got this
[06:57] <easyOnMe> ssh root@104.236.56.126
[06:57] <easyOnMe> ssh: connect to host 104.236.56.126 port 22: Connection refused
[06:57] <AndroidHacker> dood stop playing with me
[06:57] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I am not
[06:57] <easyOnMe> man
[06:57] <AndroidHacker> your not using port 22
[06:58] <beepie> lol
[06:58] <beepie> yeah dude he wouldn't answer me when i asked twice to type netstat -plutn
[06:58] <beepie> pleh! I give up!
[06:58] <beepie> !
[06:58] <AndroidHacker> !!!!!!
[06:58] <beepie> sorry easyOnMe !
[06:58] <the0_> ok beepie i added those changes and nothing
[06:58] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, remember - ssh -p 7777
[06:59] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok sorry
[06:59] <beepie> the0_, sorry man
[06:59] <easyOnMe> beepie: I did netstat -plutn it says some errors
[06:59] <beepie> the0_, i don't know much on this area, but it definitely should be possible
[06:59] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, on your laptop you need to ssh-add ~/the_private_key_you_created_earlier
[07:00] <AndroidHacker> not the .pub
[07:00] <beepie> AndroidHacker, not the .pub to where?
[07:00] <the0_> ok well im gonna go through the manual that they gave with it, and can you help me out on the way ?
[07:00] <beepie> AndroidHacker, ssh -i <priv key> is the command
[07:00] <beepie> AndroidHacker, in case you're helping him
[07:00] <AndroidHacker> i thought that was for like a one time use
[07:00] <AndroidHacker> ssh -i <privkey> ...
[07:00] <beepie> AndroidHacker, no every use
[07:01] <beepie> AndroidHacker, ssh -v, would show what rsa priv keys are checked if one is too lazy to use -i
[07:01] <AndroidHacker> i thought you could ssh-add <privkey> to NOT have to specificy it when u connect
[07:01] <easyOnMe> ok so what is it now
[07:01] <beepie> AndroidHacker, if he's using the ssh-agent
[07:02] <beepie> AndroidHacker, but he has to be running the ssh-agent
[07:02] <AndroidHacker> well i guess i just assumed it was standard
[07:02] <beepie> -_-
[07:02] <AndroidHacker> :|
[07:02] <easyOnMe> yeah I remember an ssh-agent was used before
[07:02] <beepie> AndroidHacker, i also mentioned this long ago
[07:02] <beepie> AndroidHacker, but it's useless anyways
[07:02] <easyOnMe> I remember in the tutorial ask me to paste something
[07:02] <beepie> AndroidHacker, because you told him not to set a passphrase with key generation
[07:02] <AndroidHacker> beepie, lol, its been a LONG night, forgive me for being fried right now lol
[07:03] <easyOnMe> no problem man
[07:03] <beepie> AndroidHacker, it's only useful if you set a passphrase but in his case you omitted to using -N with ssh-keygen
[07:03] <easyOnMe> beepie: so how is this going to proceed
[07:03] <beepie> easyOnMe, you seem to have a routing issue
[07:04] <AndroidHacker> beepie, i totally believe you but i dont know all of those details
[07:04] <beepie> easyOnMe, I suppose you did iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT, and iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT, since it's behind a firewall anyways (the routing box)
[07:04] <beepie> easyOnMe, but i offered to help much sooner ;-)
[07:04] <beepie> lol
[07:05]  * beepie won't repeat himself! mwhahahaa
[07:05] <beepie> too many steps and "ifs" sorry
[07:05] <easyOnMe> beepie: no problem
[07:05]  * beepie also is tired 
[07:05] <AndroidHacker> the problem this entire time was because he wasnt using the right port
[07:06] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok now if everyone is tired its ok
[07:06] <AndroidHacker> now for real im done
[07:06] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I appreciate your effort man
[07:06] <easyOnMe> no issues here
[07:06] <easyOnMe> I am humbled and flattered you guys offered help
[07:06] <easyOnMe> you guys are tired
[07:06] <easyOnMe> its ok
[07:06] <easyOnMe> I will try to figure this out myself
[07:06] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, look into adding that private key into your "keyring", per se
[07:06] <AndroidHacker> ssh-agent
[07:07] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: how
[07:07] <beepie> uh you didn't read AndroidHacker
[07:07] <beepie> AndroidHacker, what did i say about ssh-keygen?
[07:07] <AndroidHacker> im not arguing about this, im going to bed
[07:07] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: hey wait
[07:07] <easyOnMe> I think I got in
[07:07] <beepie> AndroidHacker, not arguing
[07:07] <AndroidHacker> these are the exact same steps i used
[07:07] <beepie> AndroidHacker, he's not even using a "passphrase" for his keys
[07:07] <easyOnMe> I used filezilla and it seems to show me the file structure
[07:07] <beepie> AndroidHacker, a passpharse is like a "zip lock password"
[07:08] <AndroidHacker> wait, i see what u mean nevermind
[07:08] <beepie> AndroidHacker, so if someone steals the key files they can't open these files without knowing the passphrase, think of it as a "password" but for the file only
[07:08] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I got it man
[07:08] <easyOnMe> thanks
[07:09] <easyOnMe> now my question is how will I configure my server so that it will open my codeigniter up once I upload it
[07:09] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: I do not see any /var/www
[07:09] <AndroidHacker> easyOnMe, just in general do some ssh research and learn more about it
[07:09] <easyOnMe> here
[07:09] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok will do
[07:09] <AndroidHacker> good night
[07:09] <easyOnMe> but for now need to please my boss
[07:09] <easyOnMe> last one man
[07:09] <AndroidHacker> what
[07:09] <easyOnMe> how shall I establish a root folder for the website
[07:10] <the0_> suck his penis that will please him !! lol
[07:10] <easyOnMe> currently my site shows ubuntu info
[07:10] <easyOnMe> the0_: manners
[07:10] <easyOnMe> the0_: and language
[07:10] <easyOnMe> the0_: lol
[07:10] <AndroidHacker> language == english
[07:10] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: lol
[07:10] <easyOnMe> no man I was referring to theo
[07:10] <AndroidHacker> i know me too
[07:10] <the0_> he knows lol
[07:10] <easyOnMe> what I mean is when you have developing locally in your laptop
[07:10] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: lol
[07:11] <easyOnMe> the localhost refers to /var/www/html as the root foler
[07:11] <easyOnMe> folder
[07:11] <AndroidHacker> ok
[07:11] <easyOnMe> what about in my DO server
[07:11] <AndroidHacker> ?
[07:11] <easyOnMe> how shall i do it and establish a root folder
[07:11] <AndroidHacker> whole nother topic man.. i got to get to bed.. i have work in the AM
[07:12] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: ok but at least lead me to an online resource that I can read on
[07:12] <AndroidHacker> google.com has 99.9% of the information you seek
[07:12] <AndroidHacker> good nighyt
[07:12] <the0_> good night
[07:12] <easyOnMe> the0_: any ideas man
[07:12] <rudi-is-me> what are my options with regards to ubuntu destop as media server as well as NAS for windows and mac? I'm just doing a bit of research, but will test it on my current ubuntu 14.x desktop first
[07:13] <easyOnMe> beepie: can you help me out
[07:14] <the0_> whats your question ?
[07:14] <the0_> really there are very good tutorials on google for ssh, ftp, etc
[07:16] <beepie> gn gtg
[07:16] <beepie> !
[07:16] <beepie> easyOnMe, sorry!
[07:17] <rudi-is-me> the0_ was that for me?
[07:17] <patero-ng> I want to know how to install ubuntu on my usb drive like if it was a hd and make it bootable
[07:19] <rudi-is-me> patero-ng try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ there is a lot of info on your question
[07:19] <rudi-is-me> as well as all the apps and stuff you need to do it
[07:20] <patero-ng> Thank you vaby
[07:21] <easyOnMe> AndroidHacker: man thanks for your help
[07:21] <easyOnMe> beepie: no problem
[07:21] <easyOnMe> beepie: thanks
[07:21] <easyOnMe> anyone here who has been a web admin or is currently a web master using ubuntu server
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: Better to just get to your real question than ask vague ones like that.
[07:22] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: ok this is my concern
[07:23] <easyOnMe> I am facing my server file directory
[07:23] <easyOnMe> this is what I know
[07:23] <easyOnMe> right now my localhost points to the /var/www/html/ folder
[07:23] <easyOnMe> how do I make my server do the same thing to point to particular folder where I will upload my app
[07:24] <easyOnMe> and make it online
[07:24] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: meaning get it real time
[07:24] <easyOnMe> up and running
[07:24] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: so that visitors to my site can see the web pages I created
[07:25] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: can you help me out on this
[07:25] <easyOnMe> please
[07:26] <darkxploit> easyOnMe,
[07:26] <darkxploit> what is the problem
[07:26] <darkxploit> please be brief
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: ...that didn't make any sense.  "localhost" is a hostname - it doesn't "point to" a folder anywhere.  Similarly, your "server" will not "point to" a folder.
[07:26] <bigobony> how to install a module in python3 version
[07:26] <darkxploit> bigobony, use pip
[07:26] <the0_> dark exploit, i know you know stuff about pam.d :) am i right?
[07:26] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: no what I mean is the localhost is the local server on my laptopthat I use for development
[07:27] <easyOnMe> now I want to deploy our company's app
[07:27] <patero-ng> Rudy are you there
[07:27] <easyOnMe> how shall I establish a web root in our vps
[07:27] <darkxploit> the0_, not sure
[07:27] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: when developing we use this in our url
[07:28] <easyOnMe> localhost/ci_project and the browser will load the web pages
[07:28] <easyOnMe> but this one works because the localhost is a server in our local machine
[07:28] <easyOnMe> now what about when we deploy into the vps
[07:28] <darkxploit> the thing is that easyon me is not concise and is talking several things at the same time which makes it difficult to solve the problem
[07:28] <easyOnMe> how shall we do it
[07:28] <Flannel> easyOnMe: Sounds like you want to copy your files to /var/www/html/ci_project then
[07:29] <easyOnMe> yes
[07:29] <maxxer> is it possible to disable upstart in 14.04? My system remains stuck after init-bottom
[07:29] <easyOnMe> into the vps
[07:29] <patero-ng> Rudy that site only tells me how to install linux live i want a full install on th ere drive
[07:29] <easyOnMe> Flannel: exactly man
[07:29] <moobase> SO! Some desktop environments communicate with udev via dbus to discover new devices?
[07:29] <easyOnMe> Flannel: my question is this
[07:29] <Flannel> easyOnMe: So... just put them there and make them readable by www-data.
[07:29] <darkxploit> the0_, whats ur problem with PAM
[07:29] <easyOnMe> what do you mean put them there
[07:29] <easyOnMe> currently the directory structurs is home/admin/
[07:29] <Flannel> easyOnMe: Copy (or move) the files to that folder.  No big deal.
[07:30] <easyOnMe> oh is it
[07:30] <easyOnMe> just paste everything inside home/admin
[07:30] <the0_> im trying to configure my fingerprint scanner , i found a package that does support mine, i got the package to take my prints, the package has a self-test for sudo , gnome screensaver, etc  i just don't get asked for my fingerprint when i try to check it outside the fingerprint-gui
[07:30] <easyOnMe> then when I refresh my site it will render the web pages
[07:30] <Flannel> easyOnMe: No, inside /var/www/html/ci_project
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: It would be helpful if you took time to collect your thoughts and then type the whole situation out on one or two lines instead of drawn-out smatterings of partial information that are hard to follow...
[07:31] <easyOnMe> tonyyarusso: I explained everything already to the best of abilities
[07:31] <the0_> lol
[07:31] <easyOnMe> sorry if it still not clear
[07:31] <easyOnMe> I am really sorry
[07:31] <darkxploit> tonyyarusso, u r right.. i have been following easy on me some minutes.. that so difficult
[07:31] <easyOnMe> Flannel: do you mean I need to come up with a new folder
[07:31] <easyOnMe> in my vps
[07:31] <easyOnMe> just like how it is structured in my laptop
[07:32] <bigobony> no by pip its giving syntax error
[07:32] <Flannel> easyOnMe: Um, I suppose so yeah.  You simply need to copy the files to the correct folder inside the document root of your web server.  Things inside your document root are served by the webserver.
[07:33] <darkxploit> bigobony, are u in the right virtualenv ?
[07:33] <moobase> I don't get it.. is udev a part of the kernel or not? Also, is it udev that create/deletes files in /dev/*?
[07:33] <easyOnMe> Flannel: but currently when I manage to connect my filezilla this is the directory structure I got
[07:33] <easyOnMe> home/admin
[07:33] <bigobony> Yes
[07:33] <easyOnMe> so my question is this
[07:33] <Flannel> easyOnMe: right, /home/admin would be the home folder of the 'admin' user.  You need to be in /var/www/html
[07:34] <easyOnMe> I will just paste everything from /var/www/html/ci_project to home/admin
[07:34] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, can u resume to us 1. your precheck, 2. your actions, and 3. your postcheck
[07:34] <the0_> darkxploit im trying to configure my fingerprint scanner , i found a package that does support mine, i got the package to take my prints, the package has a self-test for sudo , gnome screensaver, etc  i just don't get asked for my fingerprint when i try to check it outside the fingerprint-gui
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe: Personally I'd set up a separate VirtualHost for an application normally, but that might not be necessary depending on what exactly you're doing with this.
[07:35] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: firstly, I just want to deploy my webpages for a start
[07:35] <easyOnMe> my actions is to upload the files
[07:35] <DoYouKnow> ouch... using 184GB right now... can I enable compression on my drive?
[07:35] <easyOnMe> my post check is to see whether the web pages are rendered once I type my url and hit enter
[07:35] <darkxploit> ok easyOnMe did u use tools like rsync -naiv
[07:35] <Flannel> easyOnMe: No, thats backwards.  You want to copy stuff to /var/www/html.  Anything in there (and 'only' in there) is served via the webserver.
[07:35] <patero-ng> 🎃
[07:35] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: no
[07:35] <easyOnMe> never heard of those
[07:36] <easyOnMe> this is my first time deploying
[07:36] <easyOnMe> I am a developer
[07:36] <easyOnMe> this job was chuck on me just yesterday
[07:36] <easyOnMe> lol
[07:36] <darkxploit> i mean from the preproduction platform to the production environment u can do u  rync in dryrun mode
[07:36] <Flannel> easyOnMe: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  It makes it very difficult to follow your sentences.
[07:36] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: man thanks for introducing me to that
[07:36] <easyOnMe> I will be glad to learn
[07:36] <easyOnMe> can you point me to a resource where I might learn from
[07:37] <darkxploit> i dont know
[07:37] <darkxploit> so did u try to acess ur webpage through ip address
[07:37] <darkxploit> explain me the platform schema
[07:38] <darkxploit> do u have 2 web servers, load balancers etc...
[07:38] <darkxploit> how did u set up ur platform ?
[07:38] <easyOnMe> wow
[07:38] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: I just use a vps from digital ocean
[07:38] <darkxploit> ok
[07:38] <darkxploit> do u got ur domain name already
[07:38] <easyOnMe> the url is online and it points correctly
[07:38] <darkxploit> ok
[07:39] <easyOnMe> the only thing is there is no files or pages to render
[07:39] <darkxploit> ok
[07:39] <darkxploit> on the server document root
[07:39] <easyOnMe> that is why I want to learn how to establish a root folder for our company's web site
[07:39] <patero-ng>    Are you talking about a blog?
[07:39] <easyOnMe> patero-ng: are you asking me a question
[07:39] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, do a netstat -ntpl paste it here
[07:40] <darkxploit> patero-ng, wait wait i think i know his problem
[07:40] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: you mean issue this command from my laptop's terminal
[07:40] <patero-ng> Yes :-*
[07:40] <easyOnMe> patero-ng: no
[07:40] <easyOnMe> I am deploying the partial parts of our company's app
[07:40] <the0_> omg....
[07:40] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, fire the command netstat -ntpl on the server itself
[07:41] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: the server terminal
[07:41] <easyOnMe> one sec
[07:41] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, yes
[07:41] <moobase> so.. let's say that I rm -f udev. Now, I create a tmpfs called /dev. I'm going to by hand do what udev did. What set of tools do I use/man here?
[07:42] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, why do u take so much time to launch a command
[07:42] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: Last login: Sun Jul 12 15:00:21 2015 from 222.164.172.202
[07:42] <easyOnMe> admin@www:~$ netstat -ntpl
[07:42] <easyOnMe> (No info could be read for "-p": geteuid()=1000 but you should be root.)
[07:42] <easyOnMe> Active Internet connections (only servers)
[07:42] <easyOnMe> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[07:42] <easyOnMe> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:7777            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -
[07:43] <patero-ng> Wow
[07:43] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, its obvious that ur webserver wont work
[07:43] <darkxploit> becuase u have connected on ur console throught the port 7777 which is by defautl granted by digital ocean
[07:43] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: so what should I do
[07:44] <the0_> holy fuck will you babysit him privately
[07:44] <easyOnMe> the0_: I was instructed to paste it here ok
[07:44] <vader> ha!
[07:44] <easyOnMe> the0_: please easyOnMe ok
[07:44] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, 2snd thing is that there is no applications have apache or nginx working. IN this situation port 80 must listen
[07:44] <easyOnMe> this is my first time laying my hands on web admin job
[07:44] <the0_> yes you were also instructed not to enter after every little thought, seems you pick and choose which instructions to follow,
[07:45] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, i guess u need to learn more about web server configurations etc..
[07:45] <darkxploit> the0_,  here is the situation when someone dont know anything and try to explain thing which he knows
[07:45] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: o dear but I saw the web admin you quit yesterday installing all the php, apache and mysql stuff
[07:46] <easyOnMe> who quit
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> the0_: Please watch the language here - we want to keep this channel family and work friendly.
[07:46] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, u need to do the basic configurations for ur VPS first
[07:47] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: ok can you please guide me here
[07:47] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, which means to install lamp-sever^ if u r on ubuntu
[07:47] <darkxploit> which OS are u using
[07:47] <easyOnMe> not really spoonfed but just help me out man
[07:47] <BuzzardBuzz> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html, just for easyonme
[07:47] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: they were already installed man
[07:48] <BilboSwaggins> I just installed 14.02
[07:48] <easyOnMe> I was told by the web admin yesterday
[07:48] <BilboSwaggins> if I do a dist-upgrade it isn't going to take me up to 15 or something, right?
[07:48] <darkxploit> ok then start the ssh and web sever services on ur vps
[07:48] <the0_> sorry just annoying watching everybody and their mother help this "employed web developer" configure a server, or am i in the wrong channel ?
[07:48] <BuzzardBuzz> try the guide out and like it
[07:48] <easyOnMe> but just to check whether he did what command can I issue on the terminal to check
[07:48] <darkxploit> then fire the command netstat -ntpl paste here again
[07:48] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: what command to start those services
[07:49] <BilboSwaggins> so uh
[07:49] <easyOnMe> I am in the server terminal now
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> BilboSwaggins: No, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' just does some different things with dependencies within a release - it doesn't automatically move you to the next release.  (There's do-release-upgrade for that.)
[07:49] <BilboSwaggins> thanks tonyyarusso
[07:49] <BilboSwaggins> you a good guy
[07:49] <darkxploit> easyOnMe, paste the output of this command here cat /etc/issue
[07:50] <DalekSec> BilboSwaggins: dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages.
[07:50] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[07:50] <BilboSwaggins> so it's just going to bump me up to 14.04 right?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe, darkxploit: It would probably be appropriate to take this to PM or a temporary channel since it's rather lengthy and involved though.
[07:51] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: do you ming
[07:51] <easyOnMe> mind
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> easyOnMe, darkxploit: Also, don't do any multi-line pastes in the channel - use pastebin for that.
[07:51] <darkxploit> im hungry
[07:51] <darkxploit> its 11 51 here
[07:51] <darkxploit> im in mauritius
[07:51] <darkxploit> brb
[07:51] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: ok you go and have your meal first
[07:51] <easyOnMe> I will be right back too
[07:52] <easyOnMe> need to buy some stuff
[07:52] <DalekSec> BilboSwaggins: Right.
[07:52] <easyOnMe> it is 4pm here
[07:52] <easyOnMe> Singapore
[07:52] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: I meet you at 1 your time
[07:52] <easyOnMe> 1 o' clock
[07:52] <easyOnMe> darkxploit: is it ok
[07:55] <the0_> is there anyone here who can help me configure this fingerprint scanner, i installed a package, that without a doubt supports, the package has a self test function which works on all levels i just need to configure my computer to request the fingerprint scan
[07:55] <the0_> im running ubuntu 14.04 http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/doc/Step-by-step-manual.html is the manual for the software
[07:55] <darkxploit> the0_, is it related to the pam issue ?
[08:01] <the0_> yes
[08:02] <iongraphix> I am trying to build a visual query formulation framework for neo4j. Something like a Query builder for neo4j. I was hoping I could get some advice from the clan
[08:04] <moobase> It requires a huge amount of man hours to keep a distro running. So I'll assume to begin with that there are A LOT of people working on these projects. From the distro teams point of view, how much work per day is put into keeping it running?
[08:05] <bazhang> !ot | moobase
[08:05] <the0_> is there anyone here who can help me configure this fingerprint scanner, i installed a package, that without a doubt supports, the package has a self test function which works on all levels i just need to configure my computer to request the fingerprint scan
 im running ubuntu 14.04 http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/doc/Step-by-step-manual.html is the manual for the software
[08:06] <pjc> ××
[08:09] <nomic> The following should work after configuration is done:
[08:09] <nomic> sudo: Open a terminal and type “sudo xterm”. In the terminal should appear a line prompting for a password while at the same time a GUI widget should request a finger-swipe. You should be able to open xterm with root permissions by typing your password and by swiping your finger over the reader as well.
[08:10] <nomic> xterm = xterminal window
[08:10] <iongraphix> I am trying to build a visual query formulation framework for neo4j. Something like a Query builder for neo4j. I was hoping I could get some advice from the clan
[08:11] <the0_> is there anyone here who can help me configure this fingerprint scanner, i installed a package, that without a doubt supports, the package has a self test function which works on all levels i just need to configure my computer to request the fingerprint scan
 im running ubuntu 14.04 http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/doc/Step-by-step-manual.html is the manual for the software
[08:12] <the0_> nomic, i get no such line
[08:13] <nomic> go to ubuntu forums -- ask there - this place is transient for help http://ubuntuforums.org/  register an account - put together a help wanted message (!) .. put iti n the right place
[08:14] <nomic> search on forum to see if question has been asked before
[08:14] <nomic> or. .. contact the maintainer of the package
[08:14] <the0_> i want to irc for help ?
[08:14] <the0_> this isnt ubuntu support irc ?
[08:14] <nomic> ubuntu forums is very busy
[08:14] <nomic> there is also that, for support
[08:15] <the0_> ok well that's what im here for is ubuntu support
[08:16] <iongraphix> I am trying to build a visual query formulation framework for neo4j. Something like a Query builder for neo4j. I was hoping I could get some advice from the clan
[08:16] <the0_> Very important!! Since version 1.07 existing user data (registered fingerprints) need to be owned by root.root. These files are located in "/var/lib/fingerprint-gui/" and have NOT the correct ownership and modes when they are created with a previous version. If you want to continue using these files you need to execute the command "sudo make user-data" after installating the new version. Alternatively you can completely remove this directory a
[08:16] <the0_> nd aquire new fingerprint data with the new version.
[08:17] <the0_> i need to know how to do this
[08:17] <nomic> yeah well the thing is, the0_  .. this place isn't somewhere where you are going to get anything other than transient suppot -- for a problem that you wish to deal with 100%, go to the forums
[08:17] <the0_> what is transient support ?
[08:17] <nomic> also if you log a message on the forums - people will attend to it while you are asleep, even -- you must raise a thread right away
[08:18] <nomic> this is public forum there is no formal ubuntu support here
[08:18] <nomic> it just depends on who is here at  the time (luck)
[08:18] <the0_> umm the ubuntu site, directs you here for support.... id say thats formal
[08:18] <nomic> set up your question in a thread on ubuntu forums to be more sure of some feedback
[08:19] <the0_> so you come here to discourage questions.... or why are you here
[08:19] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[08:19] <the0_> Very important!! Since version 1.07 existing user data (registered fingerprints) need to be owned by root.root. These files are located in "/var/lib/fingerprint-gui/" and have NOT the correct ownership and modes when they are created with a previous version. If you want to continue using these files you need to execute the command "sudo make user-data" after installating the new version. Alternatively you can completely remove this directory a
[08:19] <the0_> nd aquire new fingerprint data with the new version.
[08:20] <the0_> can anyone help me do this ?
[08:20] <nomic> keep asking here
[08:20] <nomic> but also make a thread on ubuntu forums
[08:20] <the0_> will do
[08:20] <nomic> sorry
[08:20] <nomic> you will get this resolved
[08:22] <nomic> i searched in ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8192182  for "ulrich fingerprint" -- there are a lot of threads
[08:23] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?search_type=1     <- put in "ulrich fingerprint" into this -- you will see that there are many postings about it
[08:24] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8192187    <- try that  the0_    not sure if it shows the search
[08:25] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=8192195   the0_     this gives you all search results for "ulrich fingerprint" -- in ubuntu forums -- there are threads (postings)
[08:25] <nomic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2286082   Validity Fingerprint Scanner help!
[08:25] <nomic> etc (just one)
[08:25] <nomic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/442838/fingerprint-reader-driver-for-validity-sensors-fingerprint-scanner
[08:26] <nomic> use google, use the search facility on ubuntu forums -- this issue has been addressed ... rememer to put into the search screen "Random Question (to ensure you are a human and not a spambot)"
[08:27] <nomic> the0_  there is information out there - this issue has been addressed (within ubuntu forums) - you just have to find the information, read, absorb
[08:27] <nomic> is not a problem specific to ubuntu
[08:27] <nomic> is a general problem
[08:28] <nomic> there is much traffic in the forums - post message now and people will respond .. the earlier you post it the better
[08:28] <nomic> the software is designed for ubuntu, it should work .. be patient
[08:28] <nomic> bye
[08:30] <vader> Well done nomic. My hat off to you sir.
[08:30] <iongraphix> I am trying to build a visual query formulation framework for neo4j. Something like a Query builder for neo4j. I was hoping I could get some advice from the clan.
[08:38] <patero-ng> Lol @clan
[08:38] <rcjames> hi guys
[08:38] <rcjames> ya guys mention finger print
[08:38] <rcjames> who have finger scanner that support latest ubuntu?
[08:40] <BilboSwaggins> how come my internet is so slow in Ubuntu as compared to Windows?
[08:40] <the0_> i do
[08:40] <the0_> hi rcjames, do you know anything about them
[08:41] <the0_> http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/index.php
[08:41] <terminal_echo> Bilbo perhaps the entire computer is slower?
[08:42] <the0_> different dns maybe ?
[08:43] <BilboSwaggins> terminal_echo, no
[08:43] <terminal_echo> yeah could be DNS
[08:43] <terminal_echo> not using VPN or proxy or anything like that?
[08:43] <BilboSwaggins> some things run faster but I am getting a lot more lag over my wireless
[08:43] <BilboSwaggins> no
[08:43] <BilboSwaggins> it's Ubuntu
[08:44] <rcjames> bil i had some computer that the wifi run slower it's due to drivers
[08:44] <rcjames> all the parts are meant for microsoft and so those hardware will run best but blah to microsoft :)
[08:48] <moses> whats the easiest to use in terminal editor in ubuntu?
[08:53] <brontosaurusrex> moses: what do you mean?
[08:54] <moses> like i dont want vi
[08:55] <moses> I mean I guess i can use vi
[08:55] <moses> but its annoying
[08:55] <brontosaurusrex> moses: probaly nano
[08:56] <brontosaurusrex> but vi is what cool kids use
[08:57] <moses> nano is sick
[08:57] <moses> ty
[08:58] <brontosaurusrex> np
[09:08] <^Jaxx^> Hi All.... on 15.04 I can only get sound out of my laptop speakers if I choose headphones as the output device.  In output devices I can see Line out and Headphones options but no speakers. Is this a bug?
[09:10] <the0_> no you just need a driver
[09:10] <^Jaxx^> @the0_  but if I choose headphones.... the audio comes out of the speakers
[09:11] <the0_> what happens if you choose the speakers
[09:12] <^Jaxx^> @the0_  speaker is missing from the output devices list.  In the list I have line out and headphones.... only 2 devices.  If I choose headphones, the audio comes out of the speakers  :-)
[09:12] <^Jaxx^> As if the list is wrong
[09:13] <the0_> what happens if you plug in headphones?
[09:14] <^Jaxx^> the0_ audio comes out the headphones
[09:15] <the0_> sounds like a bug to me :)
[09:16] <^Jaxx^> @the0_ I think there is just an error in the list in alsamixer
[09:16] <^Jaxx^> for my laptop anyway
[09:34] <regedit> can i flash ubuntu to my HP TouchPad?
[09:37] <kmldc> hi all. I have a simple question, where is the sources.list for softwares that are installed from other sources, specificallly applications like google chrome?
[09:37] <kdzar> hi im running javavm in ubuntu but after closing the program the vm still runs eating up all my memory. how do i kill it?
[09:37] <kmldc> I know they are not in the original sources.list
[09:39] <kmldc> guys?
[09:39] <kmldc> anyone?
[09:40] <kmldc> kdzar: I am not a pro, but have you tried to kill its process using the monitor application?
[09:41] <kdzar> yes
[09:41] <kdzar> killall, kill
[09:41] <kdzar> even in htop
[09:41] <kmldc> then I have no ideas man, as I said I am a noob
[09:41] <kdzar> im also a noob
[09:41] <kmldc> sorry
[09:41] <kdzar> thats why im here
[09:41] <kdzar> :P
[09:42] <kdzar> running minecraft server
[09:42] <kdzar> so i closed it a few times
[09:42] <kdzar> but the javavm of each instance stayes in mem
[09:42] <valentinmu> hello everyone. i encountered live usb(dvd) 14.04 hanging during boot process, while 12.04 boots ok. when i removed "quiet splash" from boot options i saw that it hangs on "Configuring system"
[09:43] <valentinmu> what's that? :)
[09:43] <valentinmu> i tried both 32/64 versions
[09:45] <kmldc> found it myself, problem solved thank you
[09:45] <kmldc> bye
[10:02] <moobase> will spinning up/down 10 times a day really have that much bad impact on my disk?  (need it on and off in intervals.. pls don't ask why)
[10:04] <FourFire> moobase, yes
[10:05] <FourFire> the constant spinning down is why WD Greens have such a poor lifespan
[10:11] <easyOnMe> hello
[10:12] <easyOnMe> need help in configuring my vps so that I can go online
[10:12] <easyOnMe> the person whom I arrange a meeting quit the IRC
[10:12] <bekks> easyOnMe: So just ask.
[10:13] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok thanks
[10:13] <easyOnMe> I am a developer please give me time to explain things as this is how I understood how a web server seems to function
[10:14] <easyOnMe> currently my codes are in my laptop's local server name localhost
[10:14] <bekks> How about just asking your question, instead of explaining what you understood so far :)
[10:14] <easyOnMe> and this localhost points to this root folder /var/www/html/
[10:14] <easyOnMe> were my code resides
[10:14] <easyOnMe> so my question is this
[10:14] <easyOnMe> how do the create the same web root in my vps in digital ocean
[10:15] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[10:15] <bekks> Ask digital ocean.
[10:15] <easyOnMe> bekks: oh that was helpful
[10:16] <easyOnMe> bekks: thanks
[10:16] <bekks> easyOnMe: We dont know what digital ocean configures in a different way than the standrda Ubuntu - so ask them.
[10:16] <easyOnMe> bekks: but this is what I am asking
[10:16] <bekks> Ask THEM not us.
[10:17] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok fine
[10:17] <easyOnMe> thanks anyway
[10:17] <ObrienDave> this is Ubuntu support NOT Digital Ocean support
[10:17] <easyOnMe> ObrienDave: I am really just asking about Digital Ocean
[10:17] <Melite> Does anyone know why an Ubuntu 15 system can connect to a network via wifi, but not be able to connect to the internet?
[10:18] <kdzar> hi im running javavm in ubuntu but after closing the program the vm still runs eating up all my memory. how do i kill it?
[10:18] <easyOnMe> I am also asking about vps in general
[10:18] <easyOnMe> that's all
[10:18] <easyOnMe> anyway thanks people
[10:18] <ObrienDave> wow
[10:18] <bekks> easyOnMe: This isnt vps-general-support, this is Ubuntu support :)
[10:19] <easyOnMe> bekks: just trying my luck here
[10:19] <easyOnMe> because earlier there were three guys who helped me out
[10:19] <bekks> easyOnMe: And Digital Ocean uses a modified Ubuntu, so you really need to ask them for support of their products.
[10:19] <easyOnMe> unfortunately I had to go out to buy something
[10:19] <easyOnMe> bekks: yeah correct
[10:19] <easyOnMe> thanks again main
[10:19] <easyOnMe> maN
[10:20] <Trent> hi
[10:22] <Trent> anyone can help with an error?  (Could not load GPU driver) bumblebee ubuntu 15.04
[10:23] <bekks> Trent: Just ask, dont ask to ask.
[10:23] <ObrienDave> !details | Trent
[10:24] <bogi285c> hihi
[10:24] <the0_> can anyone please help me with moving a file, im running into trouble and im new to this
[10:24] <bekks> the0_: So just ask.
[10:24] <nomic> cp makes a new copy (copy) mv moves the file
[10:24] <nomic> mv sourcepathname destinationpathname
[10:24] <nomic> otherwise use a file manager such as nautilus
[10:24] <nomic> sudo apt-get install nautilus
[10:25] <ObrienDave> definately TV time
[10:25] <nomic> if the file won't go where you want it to go - you do not have "permissions" on the file/directory so you need to enable superuser on the command such as "sudo mv sourcepath destinationpath"
[10:25] <nomic> the0_ ^
[10:25] <the0_> ok im trying to use xiphos bible guide, but I'd like to add more texts i found a source for more but when i click extract and then highlight and move to what i think is the proper directory for xiphos to see them, it tells me i dont have permission
[10:25] <nomic> bbl
[10:26] <bekks> the0_: So wher do you want to extract them to?
[10:26] <nomic> thats it - you need "sudo" then the copy command .. but permissions are there for a reason - are you supposed to be adding to that directory - you may corrupt it
[10:26] <bekks> nomic: We dont even know a single path until now.
[10:27] <the0_> /usr/share/sword/modules/ztext/texts
[10:27] <bekks> the0_: Thats a path where a user doesnt have write-permissions.
[10:27] <the0_> oh, well i may be doing it wrong then
[10:27] <Trent> http://pastebin.com/0SkXh5S9
[10:28] <bekks> the0_: You need to extract the texts into your home directory, and then move them using sudo mv
[10:28] <Trent> this is a bumblebee.conf
[10:28] <Trent> primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: Could not load GPU driver
[10:28] <Trent> help
[10:28] <Trent> with this
[10:28] <the0_> well i extracted them into downloads folder, is that not good enough ?
[10:29] <bekks> the0_: Yes, thats enough. But you dont have ermissions to just copy them to /usr/share/sword/modules/ztext/texts/ - thats what you need sudo for.
[10:29] <the0_> that is in the home directory right ?
[10:30] <the0_> ahh so my command would look like what ? and basically i want do a bunch of them at once (all english txts) so im sure theres a way to do that too
[10:30] <nomic> you use "wildcards" ('*')  same as you would in dos    cp *   <- copys all files
[10:30] <nomic> cp *   destinationdirectory - copies all files from current path to destination
[10:31] <nomic> cp *name  copies all files ending in "name"
[10:31] <nomic> cp *name*  all files containing name
[10:31] <the0_> great now how do i navigate to the directory on the terminal
[10:31] <nomic> use cd pathname
[10:31] <nomic> cd = "change directory"
[10:31] <nomic> pwd <- print current directory
[10:31] <the0_> duh i should have known that lol
[10:32] <the0_> lets give it a try then brb
[10:32] <nomic> cd  <- without pathname - changes to your "home" directory  (/home/username)
[10:32] <nomic> its got everythign dos has +
[10:32] <nomic> cos its not a toy
[10:33] <nomic> (the 'bash' shell).   default command shell with linux
[10:33] <varuntv> i am looking for a tool, more like a widget which executes a command (terminal command) which way should i start searching. Would be great if you recommend me any tool already available which can do this.
[10:33] <EriC^^> varuntv: maybe try alt+f2 ?
[10:33] <bekks> OR just open a terminal.
[10:34] <the0_> the0@the0:~$ cd /home/downloads
[10:34] <the0_> bash: cd: /home/downloads: No such file or directory
[10:34] <the0_> the0@the0:~$ cd home/downloads
[10:34] <the0_> bash: cd: home/downloads: No such file or directory
[10:34] <the0_> the0@the0:~$ cd home\downloads
[10:34] <the0_> bash: cd: homedownloads: No such file or directory
[10:34] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: hi
[10:34] <EriC^^> hi easyOnMe
[10:34] <EriC^^> what's up?
[10:34] <bekks> the0_: /home/username/Downloads
[10:34] <easyOnMe> need some help man
[10:34] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: have you done web admin before
[10:34] <EriC^^> with what?
[10:34] <bekks> EriC^^: He needs some Digital Ocean support.
[10:34] <EriC^^> nope, what's the problem though?
[10:35] <varuntv> keeping a terminal open or switching between terminals just to execute a command is reducing productivity alot.
[10:35] <unusedPhD> try byobu
[10:35] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: I just discovered just now that I can access the /var/www/html folder via filezilla
[10:35] <bekks> varuntv: Almost 90% of my work is being done in terminals, so thats quite productive for me to have a terminal open
[10:35] <EriC^^> varuntv: alt+f2 maybe be what you're looking for, give it a shot
[10:35] <easyOnMe> so my question is
[10:36] <easyOnMe> if I upload all the webpages inside this directory /var/www/html/ in my vps
[10:36] <easyOnMe> when I refresh my website it will render all these pages
[10:36] <varuntv> EriC^^, not exactly. I want to execute a bash script on press of button or some shortcut irrespective of which terminal im in.
[10:36] <easyOnMe> on the assumption that all the apache, php and mysql stuff are correctly installed in the vps as well
[10:37] <bekks> easyOnMe: That depends on the configuration of your webserver, which was configured by Digital Ocean. So please ask THEM.
[10:37] <nicoit> Hi! Firefox doesn't play music on soundcoud.com, says "There was a problem playing this track". My system is ubuntu 14.04, can you help me?
[10:37] <EriC^^> varuntv: use a keyboard shortcut to do that, do you want the terminal to stay open after it finishes to see the result?
[10:37] <varuntv> bekks, true but i have a terminal open with certain env variable set just to execute a command
[10:37] <easyOnMe> bekks: it was not DO who configured it
[10:37] <easyOnMe> it was done already by our web admin guy who quit yesterday
[10:38] <bekks> varuntv: And?
[10:38] <bekks> varuntv: I dont see you point of lowered productivity.
[10:38] <easyOnMe> so I was just confirming things here if what I am about to do will result in the way I expect them to like how it works with local servers
[10:38] <varuntv> EriC^^, no i just want to execute a terminal command thats it nothing else not expecting any output
[10:38] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: try putting the website there and see if it works, check the apache config file to see if something else is specified
[10:38] <varuntv> bekks, switching between terminals :( extra keystrokes.
[10:38] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: ok
[10:38] <easyOnMe> one more thing though
[10:38] <bekks> varuntv: Nonsense :)
[10:39] <easyOnMe> if I go to this /var/www/ directory
[10:39] <easyOnMe> and I issue this command on the terminal
[10:39] <varuntv> bekks, might be for u but not to me :)
[10:39] <easyOnMe> /var/www/ sudo chmod -R 777 html
[10:39] <easyOnMe> is this ok
[10:39] <bekks> varuntv: If you are measuring "productivity" by keystrokes to change windows, you are already unproductive, measuring the wrong things.
[10:39] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: by default that dir is used, check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to see if something else is specified in <Directory ... >
[10:39] <easyOnMe> or I am making this too vulnerable
[10:40] <easyOnMe> it was done already according to our web admin guy
[10:40] <bekks> easyOnMe: 777 on /var/www/html/ is the most horrible approach in terms of security.
[10:40] <EriC^^> varuntv: ok, set it as a keyboard shortcut
[10:40] <easyOnMe> bekks: so what should be the correct command then
[10:40] <EriC^^> varuntv: settings > keyboard > shortcuts, then custom
[10:40] <easyOnMe> so that permission to read and write on /var/www/html folder can be done
[10:40] <bekks> easyOnMe: 755 for directories, 644 for files.
[10:41] <easyOnMe> I only want the html folder to be read and write but for /var/www I will not allow any permission to read and write
[10:41] <easyOnMe> it that possible bekks
[10:41] <varuntv> bekks, everyone have their own understand of productivity.. for me wasting time just to switch between terminal.. type command/alias is lowering productivy when it always can be done by keyboard shortcut. Thats what i wanted to know
[10:41] <bekks> easyOnMe: if yu need your user to have write permissions on that folder, create a group containing the apache user and your user, and grant write access to that group.
[10:41] <varuntv> EriC^^, Thanks lemme checkit out
[10:41] <bekks> easyOnMe: But literally NEVER set 777 on a public access directory.
[10:42] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok thanks note man
[10:42] <easyOnMe> noted man
[10:42] <bekks> varuntv: create an alias in a terminal. :)
[10:42] <easyOnMe> if I issue this command chmod -R 755 /html is this the correct way and right way of doing
[10:43] <bekks> easyOnMe: No. Do not touch permissions.
[10:44] <easyOnMe> bekks: so how will I be able to upload files on html
[10:44] <varuntv> bekks, thanks man! Have alias already but.. anyways lemme c i think keyboard shortcut is what i am looking for. Lemme c will come back if that doesnt work out. Thanks for the help.
[10:44] <bekks> easyOnMe: I told you, above.
[10:45] <easyOnMe> bekks: oh you mean group permissions
[10:45] <bekks> easyOnMe: Yes.
[10:45] <easyOnMe> ok
[10:45] <jiipee> a
[10:45] <easyOnMe> mind if I ask for help how to do that in ubuntu 14.01
[10:46] <easyOnMe> say my user name is user1
[10:46] <easyOnMe> how shall I issue the permission to upload on the folder /var/www/html
[10:46] <bekks> easyOnMe: I told you :)
[10:46] <bekks> easyOnMe: if yu need your user to have write permissions on that folder, create a group containing the apache user and your user, and grant write access to that group.
[10:46] <easyOnMe> ok then let just google it and seek confirmation from you
[10:47] <bekks> easyOnMe: You dont need to get my confirmation on what I just told you, twice.
[10:47] <easyOnMe> bekks: yeah I get it let me just research the correct command to issue on the terminal
[10:47] <easyOnMe> bekks: quite new to ubuntu
[10:47] <easyOnMe> not too familiar with command on permissions as I only know the basic stuff
[10:51] <bekks> easyOnMe: groupadd and useradd -G groupname username
[10:51] <easyOnMe> bekks: give a sec I got some reading from ubuntu
[10:52] <easyOnMe> let me get back to you if there's somethings I don't quite understand
[10:52] <easyOnMe> thanks man
[10:53] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok I am done reading
[10:53] <easyOnMe> my question is the group www-data is this a default group
[10:54] <bekks> We dont know whats the default webservergroup on a Digital Ocean VPS.
[10:54] <easyOnMe> bekks: by default I mean ubuntu has it already right from the very start
[10:54] <easyOnMe> bekks: no we are talking about ubuntu
[10:54] <bekks> easyOnMe: Seconds ago you were on a Digital Ocean VPS. I dont think that has changed.
[10:55] <the0_> lol
[10:55] <easyOnMe> bekks: what is the command on the terminal to list down user groups on ubuntu
[10:55] <bekks> easyOnMe: cat /etc/group
[10:57] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok I see www-data:x:33
[10:57] <the0__> k
[10:57] <easyOnMe> what does that mean
[10:58] <bekks> easyOnMe: Which doesnt necessarily mean that the directory in question is owned by that group.
[10:58] <easyOnMe> bekks: so you mean www-data already exist
[10:58] <easyOnMe> and if we assign permission for this group www-data to write on /var/www/html
[10:59] <easyOnMe> we can do so right
[10:59] <bekks> easyOnMe: a group called "www-data" exists. It depends on Digital Ocean wether that group is used for what you think it is for.
[10:59] <bekks> easyOnMe: NO. Do you actually READ what I am telling you?
[10:59] <easyOnMe> and then include user1 to that group and therefore user1 can upload files on the html folder
[10:59] <easyOnMe> bekks: yes
[10:59] <easyOnMe> I am reading
[10:59] <bekks> Obviously you are still ignoring it.
[11:00] <easyOnMe> bekks: the server I use in DO is ubuntu 14.01
[11:00] <easyOnMe> and it works just like any other ubuntu
[11:00] <easyOnMe> that is why I am posting questions here
[11:00] <bekks> easyOnMe: No it doesnt.
[11:00] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok having said that
[11:01] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: which dir are you trying to upload to?
[11:01] <bekks> easyOnMe: They use their own configs, etc. which we dont know about. If you need support for it, ask THEM, not us.
[11:01] <bekks> easyOnMe: Told you three times now, thats enough.
[11:01] <easyOnMe> bekks: ok thanks
[11:01] <easyOnMe> no problem
[11:01] <easyOnMe> just allow me to chat with some people here ok
[11:01] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:01] <easyOnMe> you have been very informative I learn a lot
[11:01] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:01] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: the directory is /var/www/html
[11:02] <easyOnMe> but I only want html to be uploaded files to
[11:02] <easyOnMe> that is all I am going to do
[11:02] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: type ls -ld /var/www/html and see which user/group owns it
[11:02] <easyOnMe> I just want to be safe and not cause any security vulnerabilities just like what bekks was advising me
[11:02] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: ok give me a sec
[11:04] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: it says root root
[11:04] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16  2014 /var/www/html
[11:04] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: so any ideas what else I can do now
[11:05] <histo> easyOnMe: how'd you configure apache?
[11:05] <easyOnMe> my user name is user1 and I want to upload files inside html folder without causing security vulnerabilities
[11:05] <easyOnMe> histo: I think our web admin did it the usual way
[11:06] <histo> easyOnMe: are you hosting files from /var/www/html ?
[11:06] <easyOnMe> histo: that is what I intend to
[11:06] <kdzar> who can recommend an easy web monitoring backround software for lan ?
[11:06] <bekks> kdzar: Whats a "web monitoring background software" - what do you expect it to do?
[11:06] <easyOnMe> histo: I have access to /var/www/html but no permission to upload files into it
[11:07] <histo> easyOnMe: Did your 'web admin' possibly setup a public directory in your /home/user1  somewhere?
[11:07] <easyOnMe> histo: however I can change the permission but I want to be careful not to cause any security issues if ever I do so
[11:07] <kdzar> bekks i need to make graphs but thats not a req for the software to show how much bandwith is used to sites like youtube
[11:07] <histo> easyOnMe: right, because it's owned by root:root and other users have no write
[11:07] <easyOnMe> histo: ok having said that
[11:08] <easyOnMe> the web admin who quit yesterday just advise me to use my own account
[11:08] <easyOnMe> as this is the only account with permission since I was chuck with this job of doing some web server stuff
[11:08] <histo> easyOnMe: so you don't have access to sudo ?
[11:08] <easyOnMe> histo: I am not sure though
[11:08] <histo> easyOnMe: or root?
[11:08] <easyOnMe> is there a way to check
[11:08] <histo> easyOnMe: sudo echo test
[11:09] <easyOnMe> histo: I got this back
[11:09] <easyOnMe> test
[11:09] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: shouldn't the webserver already be set up? you said you wanted to copy the files to /var/www/html ?
[11:09] <the0__> easyonme makes me hate chinese people lol
[11:10] <easyOnMe> the0__: man people like you gets into trouble
[11:10] <easyOnMe> the0__: firstly I am not Chinese man
[11:10] <easyOnMe> the0__: you have been very rude even earlier
[11:10] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: i think the problem is trying to see how it was setup to use what etc.
[11:10] <easyOnMe> other people warn you already
[11:10] <easyOnMe> the0__: be careful man
[11:10] <histo> easyOnMe: well you have several options. I would add permisisons for a group to write to html and then make your user part of that group
[11:10] <the0__> what are you talking about and dont be giving me no warning
[11:11] <easyOnMe> histo: yeah I think that is a better approach
[11:11] <the0__> and i know for a fact you are chinese , lol you just said it earlier
[11:11] <easyOnMe> the0__: I did not say I am Chinese man
[11:11] <easyOnMe> the0__: well just be careful man
[11:11] <easyOnMe> your language and your manners
[11:11] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: ok, type sudo groupadd <group name>
[11:11] <the0__> you said your from beijing
[11:12] <EriC^^> easyOnMe: nevermind him
[11:12] <easyOnMe> the0__: man just a favor let me just do my work
[11:12] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:12] <the0__> lol you mean let eric do your work
[11:12] <easyOnMe> EriC^^: thanks
[11:12] <histo> easyOnMe: wasn't www-data there from my skim of your previous comments?
[11:13] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[11:13] <easyOnMe> so that do I do
[11:13] <easyOnMe> do sudo groupadd groupname or just assign permission to www-data
[11:13] <EriC^^> histo: would it somehow help to search which dirs are owned or have the group www-data or something?
[11:13] <EriC^^> or maybe if he uploaded some config files to you histo ?
[11:14] <kdzar> im looking at cacti
[11:14] <kdzar> anyone using it?
[11:14] <xpheres> hello
[11:14] <xpheres> anyone has an ubuntu phone?
[11:14] <bekks> kdzar: Some people use it.
[11:14] <histo> easyOnMe: chown :www-data /some/directory  to make www-data the group of that directory
[11:14] <kdzar> bekks you?
[11:15] <bekks> kdzar: whats your actual question?
[11:15] <easyOnMe> histo: you mean issue a command like this: sudo chown :www-data /var/www/html
[11:15] <kdzar> bekks i need to make graphs but thats not a req for the software to show how much bandwith is used to sites like youtube. any ideas on sofware that can do this
[11:15] <histo> easyOnMe: then you can sudo chmod g+w /some/directory and sudo usermod -a -G www-data youruser
[11:15] <histo> easyOnMe: yes
[11:15] <bekks> kdzar: You are looking at cacti - just take a look wether it fits your requirements.
[11:16] <easyOnMe> histo: so do this sudo chmod g+w /html/ and sudo usermod -a -G www-data user1
[11:16] <easyOnMe> or this
[11:16] <easyOnMe> histo: so do this sudo chmod g+w /var/www/html/ and sudo usermod -a -G www-data user1
[11:17] <histo> easyOnMe: the later
[11:17] <easyOnMe> histo: so do this sudo chmod g+w /var/www/html/ and sudo usermod -a -G www-data user1
[11:18] <easyOnMe> histo: do i need to put slash in the end like this: sudo chmod g+w /var/www/html/
[11:19] <histo> easyOnMe: no
[11:19] <easyOnMe> ok
[11:19] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:19] <moobase> all scripts in /etc/lib/systemd/system-sleep/ will be executed when you suspend/wake. Future proof or legacy soon to be depricated? Way more convenient than unit files.
[11:19] <histo> easyOnMe: are there already files in /var/www/html?
[11:20] <easyOnMe> histo: only the default index.html
[11:20] <histo> easyOnMe: k that file probably has the same permissions as /var/www/html
[11:20] <easyOnMe> i just did this
[11:21] <easyOnMe> histo: sudo chmod g+w /var/www/html
[11:21] <easyOnMe> as for the last part I am now going to do
[11:21] <easyOnMe> sudo usermod -a -G www-data user1
[11:21] <histo> wouldn't you have to route all traffic through your box to use something like cacti?
[11:21] <easyOnMe> correct?
[11:21] <histo> easyOnMe: yes
[11:22] <easyOnMe> histo: thanks
[11:22] <histo> easyOnMe: now user1 is a member of the www-data group which has write access to /var/www/html  directory
[11:23] <easyOnMe> histo: ok so this means it will allow me to use this user's account to do ftp using filezilla
[11:25] <histo> easyOnMe: well if you want to be secure you shouldn't be using ftp. Use somehting like sftp instead
[11:26] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[11:26] <easyOnMe> noted
[11:26] <histo> ahh cacti uses snmp
[11:26] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:26] <histo> easyOnMe: do you have ssh access to the box with user1?
[11:26] <easyOnMe> histo: if I issue this command rm -rf foldername
[11:26] <histo> easyOnMe: huh?
[11:26] <easyOnMe> this will also delete the folder and all the folders and files inside that folder being rm right
[11:27] <histo> easyOnMe: yes but the -f is probably not needed
[11:27] <easyOnMe> histo: oh ok
[11:27] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[11:27] <easyOnMe> I got access
[11:27] <easyOnMe> why
[11:28] <histo> easyOnMe: hwy what?
[11:28] <easyOnMe> histo: no because you were asking about whether I got ssh access to the vps box
[11:28] <easyOnMe> so I ask why
[11:28] <histo> easyOnMe: because if you have ssh access you can use sftp instead of ftp
[11:29] <easyOnMe> histo: ok
[11:29] <easyOnMe> I will
[11:29] <easyOnMe> note with thanks man
[11:29] <moobase> gotta run flock4 (lock screen) in the graphics tty (by a suspension script). How? Just running it in another tty or the script won't lock the screen
[11:29] <easyOnMe> histo: what is the terminal command to show hidden files
[11:29] <bekks> easyOnMe: ls -a
[11:29] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[11:30] <easyOnMe> thank you
[11:30] <paul_> Hi guys
[11:30] <histo> !manual | easyOnMe
[11:32] <paul_> Could anyone please help me I'm new with Ubuntu and made a mistake...
[11:32] <histo> paul_: only if you give details and ask what you need help with.
[11:32] <paul_> I would like to change back the colors of the gnome terminal to the default ones
[11:34] <histo> paul_: under your profile settings in gnome-terminal youc an change the colors
[11:34] <paul_> Is it OK to post here a link to the guide I followed in order to change them in the first place ? I think it might help you to understand my problem
[11:34] <histo> paul_: sure
[11:34] <paul_> Ok cool !
[11:34] <paul_> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html
[11:35] <paul_> I used this, it works well but it's ugly
[11:35] <easyOnMe> histo: just curious
[11:36] <easyOnMe> I use filezilla to delete files which is awfully slow
[11:36] <easyOnMe> can I just close it for it to stop the deletion process
[11:36] <histo> paul_: can you pastebin the script that you ran the .set_dark.sh or .set_light.sh
[11:36] <paul_> Right away
[11:37] <histo> !paste | paul_
[11:38] <histo> easyOnMe: I haven't used ftp in ages. I'm not sure how it handles file deletion when the connection is lost
[11:38] <easyOnMe> histo: well let me share it with you
[11:38] <easyOnMe> if you close it while it is deleting the deletion stops
[11:38] <anttal> hi
[11:38] <anttal> i came again to ask stupid question
[11:39] <easyOnMe> and I use the rm approach to delete folders and files and in an instant
[11:39] <easyOnMe> folder and files are deleted filezilla takes ages
[11:39] <anttal> http://pastebin.com/vYvQ1C16 = Why that prints "portti" at first row on awway
[11:39] <anttal> *array
[11:39] <paul_> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866207/
[11:40] <anttal> "portti" is that row name that i want to print on array
[11:40] <histo> paul_: now we need to see the src/set_theme_default_profile.sh  script since that is being called
[11:40] <paul_> histo : here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866210/
[11:41] <marcos_> a
[11:42] <histo> paul_: what is the output of echo $dconfdir
[11:43] <histo> in a terminal
[11:44] <paul_> a blank line...
[11:44] <Amis> (14.04LTS, Gnome Flashback) Hello! After an update binding the Windows key to the gnome run dialog doesn't work here. Any ideas? (dconf: org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings.panel-run-dialog = ['Super_L'])
[11:44] <histo> paul_: edit > preferences > profiles   how many profiles do you have there
[11:44] <paul_> Only default
[11:45] <histo> paul_: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal
[11:45] <histo> paul_: you'll probably have to log out and back in to see the change.
[11:45] <easyOnMe> histo: I just want to aks
[11:45] <easyOnMe> ask
[11:45] <easyOnMe> currently in this server vps that is
[11:45] <easyOnMe> there is only two accounts right
[11:45] <paul_> histo : i'll be right back !
[11:46] <easyOnMe> my user1 account and the root account
[11:46] <anttal> can some1 help me :(
[11:46] <easyOnMe> there are
[11:46] <easyOnMe> sorry
[11:46] <easyOnMe> how do I get access to the root account
[11:46] <easyOnMe> via ssh
[11:46] <histo> anttal: ask in #bash
[11:47] <anttal> histo i will thanks
[11:47] <anttal> easyOnMe sudo su?
[11:47] <paul_> histo : it worked !
[11:47] <paul_> histo : thank you very much !
[11:47] <histo> easyOnMe: you'd have to set that up through digital oceans control panel. You'll probably also want to reset the root password through their panel to revoke whoever had access before rights.
[11:47] <easyOnMe> anttal: thanks
[11:48] <Amis> Setting ['<Shift>Super_L'] instead of ['Super_L'] in dconf works. Why can't I set it to the windows key without any modifiers?
[11:48] <histo> easyOnMe: don't use sudo su
[11:48] <easyOnMe> histo: why
[11:48] <paul_> histo : one last thing, do you think it is possible to use themes found here : http://tmtheme-editor.herokuapp.com/#!/editor/theme/PlasticCodeWrap in the gnome terminal ?
[11:48] <histo> easyOnMe: because it's the incorrect way.
[11:48] <histo> !sudo | easyOnMe
[11:48] <easyOnMe> histo: so you mean when I do su
[11:48] <easyOnMe> and change the root password it won't work
[11:49] <easyOnMe> I mean it will not override the existing root password if I change the root password
[11:49] <easyOnMe> using us
[11:49] <histo> easyOnMe: With your VPS there are ssh keys enabled etc...
[11:49] <easyOnMe> using su
[11:49] <easyOnMe> yes
[11:49] <easyOnMe> correct
[11:49] <easyOnMe> histo: oh yeah
[11:49] <easyOnMe> correct
[11:49] <easyOnMe> I get what you mean
[11:49] <histo> easyOnMe: they also setup a root password when normal ubuntu does not.
[11:49] <easyOnMe> there is this part where there is option to reset the password
[11:50] <easyOnMe> histo: ok ok
[11:50] <easyOnMe> copy
[11:50] <easyOnMe> I will do so
[11:50] <easyOnMe> but if I change the root password my user1 account password won't be affected right
[11:50] <histo> easyOnMe: you really need to check ditial oceans control panel out and their guides.
[11:50] <easyOnMe> histo: man they do not have one
[11:50] <cfhowlett> explain like I'm a noob: sudo vs. pkexec
[11:50] <histo> easyOnMe: it should not be, but I have no idea what they have configured.
[11:50] <easyOnMe> all they have are scattered tutorials
[11:51] <marcos_> l
[11:51] <easyOnMe> that is why earlier this user named androidhacker advised me to use vultr instead
[11:51] <histo> cfhowlett: Without checking man I believe it probably has to do with the environment the command is run in.
[11:51] <histo> as the other user.
[11:51] <the0__> Modules are normally packaged as *.zip files; they contain a configuration file plus a number of data files. Installation of such a module is done by cd'ing to your personal Sword (not Xiphos) configuration directory, ~/.sword, and unzipping the file there. The configuration file will be left in "mods.d", and the module's data files will go into a subdirectory of "modules". Alternatively, if you have write access to the system Sword directory
[11:51] <the0__> , typically /usr/share/sword, you may cd there instead before unzipping.
[11:52] <the0__> i already unzipped the files in the downloads dir, is there a fast command to get things where they need to go ?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> histo, hmm.  pkexec immediately requests the root user password, whereas sudo requires you BE the root user ...
[11:52] <easyOnMe> histo: are you a web server admin
[11:52] <easyOnMe> yourself
[11:52] <histo> the0__: cp -a source_directory destination_directory/
[11:53] <histo> easyOnMe: I administer a web server that I own. So I guess yes.
[11:53] <easyOnMe> histo: woah
[11:53] <histo> not my profession though.
[11:53] <easyOnMe> so your web server does what
[11:53] <histo> easyOnMe: hosts a web page.
[11:54] <easyOnMe> histo: for?
[11:54] <the0__> there are two different directors though  mods.d and modules which both have their own places to go
[11:54] <histo> the0__: their own place to go where?
[11:54] <easyOnMe> histo: what is your website about?
[11:54] <histo> the0__: you could do something like cp -a * somedestination/ if they are going int he same place
[11:55] <histo> easyOnMe: it's just a page about my company.
[11:55] <easyOnMe> what is your profession then if you do not mind me asking?
[11:55] <easyOnMe> histo: what's the name of your site?
[11:55] <histo> easyOnMe: I'd rather not say
[11:55] <easyOnMe> histo: you mean your website or your profession?
[11:56] <histo> easyOnMe: both
[11:56] <easyOnMe> histo: hahaha
[11:56] <easyOnMe> alright no problem
[11:56] <easyOnMe> thanks for all the help man
[11:56] <histo> No problem.
[11:56] <the0__> i unzip the file i get two folders one named mods.d and another named something else what i need to do with them is listed above
[11:57] <histo> the0__: you can copy multiple sources to a destination
[11:57] <easyOnMe> histo: man feeling lazy
[11:57] <easyOnMe> is it possible to open a file from a vps and continue coding
[11:57] <easyOnMe> right from the web root of the vps
[11:58] <the0__> well yeah but they both have their own destinations and i have unzipped 50+ folders
[11:59] <histo> the0__: why not just navigate tot he sword directory and unzip there
[11:59] <the0__> because i already trashed the .zips , is there a way to retrieve them ?
[11:59] <histo> the0__: pull them out of the trash
[12:00] <histo> the0__: restore via gui or .Trash
[12:00] <the0__> stupid question lol here i go
[12:00] <histo> the0__: or leave them there and unzip from .Trash
[12:00] <ChauffeR> do /G megah
[12:00] <ChauffeR> ok
[12:00] <the0__> if i give you the filepath destination can you help me with the command ? lol
[12:01] <histo> the0__: or if you don't want to cd just unzip somefile.zip -d somedestination
[12:01] <histo> the0__: sure
[12:02] <histo> easyOnMe: huh?
[12:02] <easyOnMe> histo: I was just toying the idea whether I can open the file I uploaded in filezilla
[12:02] <easyOnMe> continue coding and then save
[12:02] <histo> easyOnMe: you mean edit via command line?  There are multiple editors available like nano or vi / vim
[12:02] <easyOnMe> and see the result real time
[12:02] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[12:02] <easyOnMe> yup
[12:03] <histo> easyOnMe: what OS are you running filezilla from?
[12:03] <easyOnMe> they are actually very handy
[12:03] <easyOnMe> ubuntu 14.01
[12:03] <histo> easyOnMe: you could mount the html directory locally and edit the files there.
[12:03] <easyOnMe> histo: are you also into software development
[12:03] <easyOnMe> histo: how
[12:03] <histo> easyOnMe: with ssh
[12:03] <easyOnMe> so what I think is possible
[12:04] <histo> easyOnMe: ofcourse
[12:04] <the0__> /usr/share/sword
[12:04] <easyOnMe> now I am connected by ssh
[12:04] <easyOnMe> how do I mount the html directory
[12:04] <histo> the0__: unzip somefile.zip -d /usr/share/sword
[12:04] <the0__> i want to do them all at once and they are still in the trash
[12:05] <histo> easyOnMe: on your local machine mkdir somedirectory  then use something like sshfs.  so sshfs user1@ip.of.vps.box somedirectory
[12:05] <histo> the0__: Are there other zip files in the trash?
[12:06] <emin90> hii
[12:06] <histo> the0__: that aren't related
[12:06] <the0__> no
[12:06] <easyOnMe> histo: ok if I do this how exactly is this going to work
[12:06] <histo> the0__: assuming you have a backup of sword  then just unzip * -d /usr/share/sword
[12:06] <the0__> gather your thoughts easyonme
[12:06] <easyOnMe> does it work like as if I am opening the html directory from a local directory so that when I hit save it saves it directly to the vps server too
[12:07] <histo> easyOnMe: sshfs user1@ip.of.vps.box:/var/www/html somedirectory   will mount /var/www/html to your local somedirectory via ssh.
[12:07] <histo> easyOnMe: yes
[12:08] <the0__> unzip:  cannot find or open AB, AB.zip or AB.ZIP.
[12:08] <histo> easyOnMe: You'll probably have to install sshfs on your local machine.
[12:08] <histo> the0__: sorry *.zip
[12:09] <the0__> how do i navigate to the trash first ?
[12:10] <histo> the0__: unzip ~/.Trash/*.zip -d /usr/share/sword
[12:10] <histo> the0__: ~ is just a shortcut for /home/yourusername
[12:10] <the0__> cannot find or open /home/the0/.Trash/*.zip, /home/the0/.Trash/*.zip.zip or /home/the0/.Trash/*.zip.ZIP.
[12:12] <histo> the0__: Are there .zip files in /home/the0/.Trash   ?
[12:12] <the0__> yes
[12:12] <the0__> well idk about the first two dir
[12:13] <the0__> but definitely .zip in trash
[12:13] <histo> the0__: pastebin the command you are running and all the output
[12:13] <histo> !paste | the0__
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> the0__: Are you just asking how to move multiple directories?  (The ones you got after unzipping stuff before)
[12:15] <marcos_> .
[12:15] <the0__> yes
[12:15] <histo> tonyyarusso: I tried that route. He says no, although I think that's what he really wants.
[12:15] <histo> the0__: I already told you how to move multiple directories
[12:16] <the0__> i think i misunderstood before
[12:16] <EriC^^> the0__: do you mean ~/.local/share/Trash/files ?
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> The mv, cp, and rsync commands all accept multiple source arguments, as well as wildcards.
[12:16] <EriC^^> the files that go into the trash from the filemanager?
[12:16] <the0__> yes
[12:17] <histo> EriC^^: That's the issue
[12:17] <histo> the0__: unzip ~/.local/share/Trash/*.zip -d /usr/share/sword
[12:17] <EriC^^> ^ add a files after ../Trash/
[12:17] <the0__> well this time it said no zipfiles found lol
[12:17] <histo> the0__: sorry typo add files
[12:17] <histo> fml
[12:18] <the0__> add files ?
[12:18] <histo> the0__: unzip ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*.zip -d /usr/share/sword
[12:19]  * histo is not familiar with GUI trash
[12:19] <the0__> caution: filename not matched:  /home/the0/.local/share/Trash/files/TCR.zip
[12:19] <the0__> caution: filename not matched:  /home/the0/.local/share/Trash/files/TDavid.zip
[12:19] <the0__> caution: filename not matched:  /home/the0/.local/share/Trash/files/TFG.zip
[12:19] <the0__> caution: filename not matched:  /home/the0/.local/share/Trash/files/Torrey.zip
[12:19] <the0__> caution: filename not matched:  /home/the0/.local/share/Trash/files/TS1998.zip
[12:20] <histo> the0__: you can't paste output in this channel that's why you were given the link for paste.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <easyOnMe> histo: ok how do I install sshfs
[12:20] <histo> easyOnMe: sudo apt-get install sshfs
[12:20] <easyOnMe> histo: cool
[12:20] <histo> easyOnMe: On YOUR machine not the vps
[12:20] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[12:21] <histo> easyOnMe: K, just making sure you didn't get confused. All those sshfs commands are for YOUR machine.
[12:21] <easyOnMe> so when I have sshfs on my local machine I can do what you mentioned - mount html from vps and the code from there straight
[12:21] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[12:21] <histo> easyOnMe: yeap
[12:21] <easyOnMe> histo: cool
[12:21] <easyOnMe> bulls eye
[12:21] <easyOnMe> man
[12:22] <marcos_> .
[12:22] <ExecSlim> Is there a way to find out when I installed certain packages in ubuntu?
[12:22] <the0__> so what did all those filename not matched mean ?
[12:23] <ioria> th20__ try with    unzip    '*.zip'
[12:23] <histo> easyOnMe: if you reboot your machine you'll have to redo the mount.
[12:23] <EriC^^> ExecSlim: software center > history
[12:23] <histo> easyOnMe: It doesn't sound like your ready to setup on demand mounting of that share. Also make sure you create backups of your files.
[12:23] <easyOnMe> histo: sudo sshfs user1@123.123.123.123 /var/www/html/application
[12:23] <easyOnMe> is that the correct command
[12:23] <ioria> the0__ try with    unzip    '*.zip' , i mean with ' '
[12:24] <the0__> im confused ioria
[12:24] <ExecSlim> EriC^^ thanks!
[12:24] <histo> easyOnMe: no sudo needed.  just sshfs user1@ip.of.vps.box:/var/www/html/application some_local_directory      notice the :  after ip
[12:25] <easyOnMe> histo: so like this sshfs user1@123.123.123.123:/var/www/html/application /home/bob/html
[12:25] <marcos_> .
[12:25] <histo> easyOnMe: yes
[12:26] <ren0v0> hi, ubuntu just shows N/A for "bitrate" for FLAC files, is there a utility to calculate the actual bitrate?
[12:26] <histo> easyOnMe: You could also use your URL in place of your IP if you have that setup to point at your VPS.
[12:26] <the0__> h3h vop;hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhf
[12:26] <histo> ?
[12:26]  * the0__ shoots hisself in head
[12:26] <easyOnMe> histo: ok note with thanks
[12:27] <easyOnMe> but the thing is that everytime I switch my laptop i have to mount again
[12:27] <the0__> still havent moved the files
[12:27] <the0__> and not answering :(
[12:27] <ioria> the0__   unzip ~/.local/share/Trash/files/'*.zip' -d /usr/share/sword ?
[12:27] <histo> easyOnMe: yes. Unless you setup on-demand mounting or mounting on boot.
[12:27] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, open a terminal: file filename.flac
[12:29] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, doesn't show bitrate
[12:29] <valentinmu> hello everyone. i encountered live usb(dvd) 14.04 hanging during boot process, while 12.04 boots ok. when i removed "quiet splash" from boot options i saw that it hangs on "Configuring system"
[12:29] <valentinmu> i tried both 32/64 versions
[12:29] <valentinmu> 15.04 works the same
[12:30] <histo> !nomodeset | valentinmu Give this a try
[12:30] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, it should.  I'll see if I can find a .flac to test.  see this .mp3
[12:30] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866396/
[12:30] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, try it with FLAC, doesn't work
[12:31] <the0__> 107 archives were successfully processed.
[12:31] <the0__>  thank you ioria
[12:31] <ren0v0> i found a nice ulitility though "medainfo"  this works and shows it
[12:31] <easyOnMe> histo: how to do mounting on boot
[12:31] <ioria> the0__   np
[12:33] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, 16bit unless I'm reading the output wrong
[12:33] <ren0v0> not the same thing as bitrate cfhowlett
[12:34] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866404/
[12:34] <the0_> worked like a charm you da best
[12:34]  * the0_ shoots easyonme
[12:35] <ioria> ^_^
[12:35] <the0__> ioria can you explain why yours worked and his didn't ?
[12:35] <histo> easyOnMe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS#Command-line_Usage
[12:36] <histo> easyOnMe: read the whole section
[12:36] <ioria> expansion
[12:36] <easyOnMe> histo: thanks
[12:36] <the0__>  unzip ~/.local/share/Trash/files/'*.zip' -d /usr/share/sword ?
[12:36] <the0__> im too noob
[12:36] <histo> the0__: the way bash expanded the *.zip was no beuno
[12:36] <histo> s/beuno/bueno/
[12:37] <ioria> the0__   "the shell expands out wildcard characters automatically, but  doesn’t mean that programs can’t as well"
[12:37] <the0__> so it was the ' ' that made the difference
[12:37] <ioria> yep
[12:38] <ioria> the0__   https://chrisjean.com/unzip-multiple-files-from-linux-command-line/
[12:38] <the0__> would it be good practice to always use ' ' with wild cards or no ?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:38] <ioria> the0__   well, i think it's command related
[12:38] <the0__> ah ok
[12:39] <marcos_> .
[12:39] <histo> unzip should be able to handle file(s)  though .
[12:40] <marcos_> -
[12:41] <marcos_> .
[12:44] <the0__> so maybe its because of where it was located then ?
[12:44] <the0__> also where did you guys learn this stuff ?
[12:45] <ioria> the0__ try man unzip
[12:45] <paul_> Would someone please know how to import "themes" like these ones (http://tmtheme-editor.herokuapp.com) in the gnome terminal ?
[12:45] <the0__> what ?
[12:46] <the0__> oh and how do i get the !pastebinit to work ?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> the0_, install it first, the configure the .pastebinit.xml file to point to your preferred paste provider, i.e. ubuntu.paste.com
[12:47] <cfhowlett> errr. paste.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <the0__> so sudo apt-get pastebin ?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get INSTALL pastebinit
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !paste | the0_
[12:49] <the0__> ok it paused at setting up pastebinit
[12:52] <marcos_> a
[12:52] <the0__> how do i configure the pastebinit.xml
[12:55] <anttal> izabera> adding more challenge to my mysql question, i want to every line to my sql output array to be variable to script
[12:55] <anttal> 1 by 1
[12:55] <anttal> is there ez way or just use loop?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> the0_, open it in gedit and edit away
[12:55] <the0_> i dont see anything that says .xml in the pastebin dir ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> the0_, look in your /home directory for .pastebinit.xml
[12:56] <anttal> wrong chat windows
[12:56] <anttal> lol
[12:56] <cfhowlett> the0_, actually, if you've not yet fired up pastebinit, it might not be created yet. do a test run in your terminal: free | pastebinit
[12:57] <the0_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866519/
[12:57] <cfhowlett> the0_, nice.  you happy with it?
[12:58] <the0_> i didnt find any .xml file but as long as yall can see it , i guess it don't matter
[12:58] <easyOnMe> ok thanks people
[12:58] <easyOnMe> histo thanks so much
[12:58] <easyOnMe> bye
[13:07] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[13:09] <carrera> I just installed Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and I have no sound.  I installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !audio | carrera
[13:11] <carrera> cfhowlett, thanks  :)
[13:11] <cfhowlett> carrera, happy2help!
[13:11] <carrera> cfhowlett, the funny thing is that I had sound this AM when I was watching an mp4 video on VLC
[13:12] <cfhowlett> carrera, well, VLC is a bit different from other media players.  self contained with its own codecs.
[13:13] <carrera> cfhowlett, at some point, I installed audacious.  I wonder if that could have done it
[13:13] <cfhowlett> kind of the Swiss army knife of players
[13:13] <cfhowlett> carrera, are you saying vlc no longer works?  also, NO sound or just no media sounds?  How about system indicator sounds.
[13:13] <carrera> cfhowlett, ah, okay but I don't even have sound when I play a clip on VLC
[13:14] <cfhowlett> carrera, I'd guess that you disabled your speakers.  try this: headphones.
[13:14] <carrera> cfhowlett, nothing. not even the test sounds
[13:14] <cfhowlett> and phones?
[13:15] <carrera> cfhowlett, I first noticed that I didn't have sound when my speakers were connected
[13:16] <moobase> https://i.stack.imgur.com/hG8Ed.png
[13:16] <moobase> does anyone know what calculator that is?
[13:17] <EriC^^> moobase: standard ubuntu calc
[13:32] <carrera> cfhowlett, Under Sound Preferences -> Hardware tab: Built-in Audio is selected.  When I plugged in my speakers, Analog Stereo Duplex was automatically selected.  The speaker test for both left and right speakers work.  I unplugged the external speakers and the test worked with the built-in speakers too.
[13:33] <carrera> cfhowlett, but I still can NOT play any sound through neither Audacious nor VLC
[13:33] <cfhowlett> carrera, too weird for me, I'm afraid.  No idea.  sorry.
[13:34] <carrera> cfhowlett, thanks anyway
[13:34] <EriC^^> carrera: try pavucontrol
[13:34] <EriC^^> and alsamixer]
[13:35] <carrera> EriC^^, thanks, will do
[13:35] <carrera> EriC^^, do I have to run alsamixer as root?
[13:35] <EriC^^> no
[13:36] <RonWhoCares> How can I find out what "version" of yuicompressor I have installed?  I am in the section "Creating a FileWatcher" Step # 3 @ https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/help/minifying-css.html
[13:41] <rootware> sdf
[13:42] <rootware> i say   HI
[13:44] <cfhowlett> rootware, ask your ubuntu questions.  chitchat/socializing in other channels
[13:45] <g105b> I have a laptop with multitouch trackpad, how do I trigger a keyboard combination when I swipe in a direction with three fingers?
[13:46] <rainbowwarrior> hello I am using Ubuntu 15.04 and it thinks my hard drive is full when it ain't how can I fix this please ?
[13:46] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: why do you say that?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, do this terminal command : df -H
[13:47] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^ , because it keeps saying low hd space
[13:47] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett :- http://pastebin.com/ZXvDduW0
[13:48] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: your root filesystem is full
[13:48] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, eh.  can't see that one in China.  I'd suspect you haven't cleaned out your kernels in some time and that partition is full.  it happens frequently
[13:49] <EriC^> cfhowlett: /dev/sda6        41G   38G  365M 100% /
[13:49] <cfhowlett> EriC^, yep.
[13:49] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get autoremove MIGHT clean things up, but more likely not
[13:49] <rainbowwarrior> ok thank you EriC^ and cfhowlett
[13:49] <cfhowlett> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[13:50] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett, thank you
[13:50] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, happy2help!
[13:52] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett what one should i delete please ? :- http://pastebin.com/cEPZTr6C
[13:53] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, pastebin.com blocked in China. if you gedit your /home/pastebinit.xml    you can select a different paste: ubuntu.paste.com for example.  if you've old kernels, save the most recent TWO
[13:55] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866766/
[13:55] <rainbowwarrior> and thank you
[13:56] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, run df -h | pastebinit
[13:57] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett :- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11866776/
[13:57] <rainbowwarrior> i think its the generic one I need to delete
[13:58] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, I'm guessing that /dev/sda6 is your /home and data?  if so = full.  time for housecleaning.  your problem is not old kernels.
[13:59] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett hmm but there is hardly anything on my hd as its a new laptop hp 455 G2 , it was suppose to be a 1TB hard drive, but looks like its only 40GB as I have no other o/s etc on this laptop
[14:00] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:00] <carrera> cfhowlett, EriC^ , Solved.   I just turned off my  High Def Audio Controller.  The funny thing is that when I turned it back on, I still have sound from Audacious.
[14:00] <carrera> cfhowlett, EriC^,  thanks for your help.   :-)
[14:00] <cfhowlett> carrera, doh!  right, I should have thought of that!
[14:00] <carrera> lol
[14:00] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett :- http://termbin.com/5rkm
[14:01] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^ i meant sorry cfhowlett :- http://termbin.com/5rkm
[14:01] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: sda5 isn't being used!
[14:01] <carrera> cfhowlett, but I changed eh settings from off to a few different HDMI ouputs and I still get sound!
[14:01] <carrera> s/eh/the
[14:02] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: it's 946gb
[14:02] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^ oh hmm
[14:02] <EriC^> type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:02] <EriC^> you can use it as a /home partition
[14:03] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, :- http://termbin.com/q13l
[14:03] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[14:04] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, ok done
[14:04] <EriC^> ok, type ls -a /mnt , is it empty?
[14:05] <rainbowwarrior> it has lost+found and wolfheart
[14:05] <EriC^> type ls -a /mnt/wolfheart , i think that was your home dir before
[14:06] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, done
[14:07] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, :- http://termbin.com/owtz
[14:07] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: ok, does it have anything you need?
[14:07] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, no
[14:07] <EriC^> are you sure?
[14:07] <EriC^> there's alot of stuff in it..
[14:08] <EriC^> anyways you can keep it no problem, what's your current users names?
[14:08] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: type ls /home
[14:08] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, just wolfheart
[14:09] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, it hase eom and wolfheart
[14:09] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: ok, type sudo mv /mnt/wolfheart /mnt/wolfheart.old
[14:09] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, done
[14:09] <EriC^> ok, type rsync -av /home/ /mnt   ( use the slash after home )
[14:10] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: sorry sudo rsync -av ...
[14:10] <gioans> hello
[14:12] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, thank you I notice there is quite a lot , iv only had this laptop since thursday so wonder how it got so much stuff already
[14:12] <DanielCEd> Hey guys
[14:12] <DanielCEd> how do i change the server timedate
[14:12] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: :)
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !tzdata
[14:14] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, looks like its going take a little time lol , and I have learnt new commands today so thank you :)
[14:15] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: no problem :) let me know when it's done
[14:17] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, will do and thank you for your help , very much appreciated !
[14:17] <Aref> Hi, How do i convert an AVI file to MP4 in terminal?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Aref, avconv -i filename.avi filename.mp4
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Aref, of course, you need libav-tools for that
[14:19] <Aref> OK, Thanks cfhowlett. I will try it.
[14:22] <bodhi_zazen> Aref, there are more options for avconv , I suggest you read a tutorial or the man page
[14:23] <Aref> bodhi_zazen , Of course, Thanks.
[14:26] <mindbender1> How can I view properties of apps in the launcher?
[14:28] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, done
[14:28] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: great
[14:28] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: type sudo mv /home /home.old
[14:29] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, done
[14:29] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: ok, type sudo blkid /dev/sda5
[14:30] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^, done
[14:30] <EriC^> rainbowwarrior: then type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add an entry for /home
[14:30] <EriC^> copy and paste the UUID from blkid
[14:30] <Rust3dCor3> Guys. Is it a normal situation if I have over 2400 packages installed? Should I trim that fat?
[14:32] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: sorry i got dc
[14:33] <EriC^^> add this line UUID=<uuid here>   /home    ext4          defaults       0       2
[14:34] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^, done
[14:34] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mkdir /home
[14:34] <rainbowwarrior> done
[14:35] <EriC^^> type mount -a
[14:35] <EriC^^> might need sudo
[14:35] <rainbowwarrior> yeah it did
[14:35] <EriC^^> ok, type ls /home
[14:37] <EriC^^> is your username there and the files?
[14:37] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^, wb and it said " sudo mount -a
[14:37] <rainbowwarrior> mount: mount point ext4" does not exist
[14:37] <rainbowwarrior>  "
[14:37] <EriC^^> type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[14:37] <EriC^^> make sure after the uuid there's /home
[14:38] <rainbowwarrior> done was my fault missed out /home done now
[14:38] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo mount -a
[14:38] <rainbowwarrior> yes my username etc is there
[14:39] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, but think of all you've learned now!
[14:39] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[14:39] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett, indeed and I am sure it will come in handy :)
[14:39] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: when you're sure it's all ok, you can delete /home.old
[14:40] <EriC^^> sudo rm -r /home.old
[14:41] <rainbowwarrior> ok done that ty , that is better I now have 737.2 GB free now thank you very much :)
[14:42] <rainbowwarrior> it is very much appreciated!
[14:42] <EriC^^> great :) no problem :)
[14:42] <rainbowwarrior> :)
[14:43] <michi> hay kann mir jemand bei der grafikarte helfen
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !de | michi
[14:43] <Guest74291> hay kann mir jemand bei der grafikarte helfen
[14:47] <marcos_> :)
[14:49] <marcos_> :)
[14:49] <Faux> https://paste.debian.net/281598/ ext4 has segfaulted for /boot during an update-grub, and now update-grub can't succeed.  Can't kill the thing holding /boot open.  Is there anything I can do or do I have to reboot, manually boot and then fix it?
[14:50] <EriC^^> Faux: lsof | grep /boot maybe?
[14:50] <EriC^^> what's holding it open?
[14:50] <Faux> A zombie grubenv from the last thing (scroll down the paste).
[14:58] <Faux> Looks like it didn't manage to damage /boot anyway!  Woo remount-ro saves the day.
[14:59] <carrera> cfhowlett, in the process of fixing my sound, I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.  Do you normally install that package?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> carrera, always
[15:00] <carrera> cfhowlett, anything else I should install?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> carrera, I enable the firewall.  YMMV
[15:00] <carrera> YMMV?
[15:01] <EriC^^> your mileage may vary
[15:01] <carrera> thanks EriC^^
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !ymmv | carrera
[15:02]  * EriC^^ dont wanna be that guy.. but
[15:02] <EriC^^> !wfm
[15:02] <carrera> how about zeitgeist.  I did a "ps -ef | grep zeit" but didn't see anything.  I thought it ran on Ubuntu
[15:02] <EriC^^> !fml
[15:04] <OerHeks> carrera, go into systemsettings > security & privacy, there you will find the options for zeitgeist
[15:05] <carrera> I'm running Ubuntu Mate 15.04
[15:05] <OerHeks> oh, not sure zeitgeist is running there.
[15:09] <carrera> OerHeks, when I was running Xubuntu 15.04, I looked at the package ubuntu-mate-desktop and at the end of the list of packages to be installed was non other than zeitgeist-common!
[15:10] <renebarbosa> w
[15:10] <carrera> OerHeks, but not I don't see any zeitgeist procs running on my system
[15:10] <OerHeks> carrera, good to know, but i have no experience with mate-desktop, sorry
[15:11] <carrera> OerHeks, thanks anyway
[15:11] <carrera> OerHeks, does "ps -ef | grep zeit" show any zeitgeist procs running on regular Ubuntu systems?
[15:12] <OerHeks> carrera, yes
[15:12] <carrera> OerHeks, then chances are it's not running on my system
[15:14] <ethang> guys, I need help fixing my java installation.  Any ideas
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !java | ethang
[15:15] <ethang> !java | ethang
[15:17] <ethang> how do I do that, #ubotto
[15:17] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java ethang read the link
[15:18] <OerHeks> OpenJDK should be fine.
[15:33] <cofo> Hi
[15:33] <cofo> Is there anyone here?
[15:33] <cofo> I have permission denied because I tried to execute a file and i'm running live cd ubuntu
[15:34] <OerHeks> hi cofo, what file?
[15:34] <cofo> a.out by program i wrote in c
[15:34] <ubuntuser> The live CD is mainly only for testing Ubuntu before installing it. And most likely, your CD is read only, so it is impossible to write your change to it
[15:35] <cofo> Ah?
[15:35] <cofo> I just want to execute hello world
[15:35] <Anthaas> Hi guys, I am looking to set up my computer on Ubuntu Desktop, but use it as a multi-tool server. Is this feasible and easy?
[15:35] <EriC^^> cofo: you ran gcc yourprogram.c
[15:35] <EriC^^> cofo: type ./a.out to run it
[15:35] <cofo> It gave me permission denied
[15:36] <EriC^^> type ls -l a.out
[15:36] <Anthaas> i.e. I'd like to run it as a web server, an XBMC server, a dev server (java, python, etc)
[15:36] <cofo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9EcpV8VS/
[15:36] <ubuntuser> Do chmod +x
[15:36] <cofo> i did
[15:36] <EriC^^> cofo: ls -l a.out
[15:36] <OerHeks> Anthaas, sure, lots of IDE's to install, XBMC is now Kodi.
[15:36] <cofo> -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 8756 Jul 12 18:21 a.out
[15:37] <EriC^^> cofo: it's not +x
[15:37] <EriC^^> cofo: type chmod +x a.out
[15:37] <OerHeks> x=eXecute
[15:37] <cofo> i did
[15:37] <EriC^^> nope
[15:38] <cofo> i wrote that
[15:38] <EriC^^> just now?
[15:38] <cofo> before
[15:38] <cofo> even in codeblocks it no works
[15:38] <EriC^^> type it again, chmod +x a.out && ls -l a.out
[15:39] <cofo> -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 8756 Jul 12 18:38 a.out
[15:39] <cofo> i removed the file and then compile with gcc
[15:39] <EriC^^> cofo: when you type chmod +x a.out nothing happens?
[15:39] <cofo> yep
[15:40] <EriC^^> it's odd you can't change the permissions
[15:40] <cofo> yep
[15:40] <EriC^^> is it 64bit?
[15:40] <OerHeks> cofo,  where is that file, on an USB device/fat32/ntfs ?
[15:40] <cofo> it's on windows8 hdd
[15:40] <cofo> media/ubuntu/windows8_OS
[15:40] <EriC^^> oh,
[15:40] <OerHeks> ohhh  that is not posix, copy it into your live environment
[15:41] <EriC^^> copy it to .. yeh ^
[15:41] <EriC^^> yeah*
[15:41] <cofo> why
[15:41] <EriC^^> ntfs doesn't hold permissions
[15:41] <cofo> Why?
[15:41] <EriC^^> cause the filesystem wasn't made to hold them
[15:41] <cofo> I still don't understand why?
[15:41] <EriC^^> cause windows doesn't need them
[15:42] <cofo> anyway my program not work =D
[15:42] <EriC^^> *use
[15:42] <EriC^^> cofo: you need to copy it to your ubuntu's live session or you can mount the ntfs with the permissions you want
[15:42] <cofo> That's why I couldn't download steam games on that?
[15:42] <EriC^^> cofo: type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:43] <Anthaas> OerHeks: Sorry, got disconnected, I would quite like to do most of the stuff through command line, but have a GUI when I want.
[15:43] <cofo> could it make any bad to my hdd?
[15:43] <Anthaas> The machine will be in a remote location too
[15:43] <EriC^^> cofo: no
[15:43] <cofo> termbin?
[15:43] <EriC^^> cofo: it will mount it with fake permissions, they'll disappear the next time you mount
[15:43] <EriC^^> cofo: it's a pastebin site
[15:43] <cofo> i see
[15:44] <cofo> I will pas
[15:44] <cofo> pass*
[15:44] <OerHeks> Anthaas, i would test it out with a server next to me, easier to fix when you lock yourself out.
[15:44] <cofo> Thank you
[15:44] <Anthaas> OerHeks: Yeah, I am at the server right now - at my parents' house - but I am a Uni student, so spend most of the year away.
[15:47] <OerHeks> Anthaas, good start https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[15:48] <Anthaas> OerHeks: Oooh, should I install Ubuntu server, not Ubuntu Desktop?
[15:48] <OerHeks> Anthaas, no, you can turn any desktop in a machine that gives a 'service'
[15:49] <OerHeks> still,  the guide is valid for you
[15:49] <EriC^^> cofo: the fake permission won't be on it, just in the kernel
[15:49] <Anthaas> Ahhh thats great then
[15:49] <Anthaas> All those are valid for Ubuntu Desktop? OerHeks
[15:49] <cofo> I see
[15:49] <EriC^^> cofo: just copy the file to your /home/ubuntu dir and do chmod +x on it there if you want
[15:49] <OerHeks> Anthaas, jups
[15:49] <cofo> But anyway I don't wanna do that now I will be do the copy...
[15:49] <cofo> the black job
[15:50] <Anthaas> Perfect
[15:51] <netcrash> Hello, in gnome how can I make right click + drag resize the window?
[15:52] <EriC^^> netcrash: why right click? O.o
[15:56] <patero> Hello
[16:01] <xar> how to download podcasts?
[16:02] <nopf> wget url_of_podcast ?
[16:07] <marcos_> .
[16:10] <adekto> hey i just installed ubuntu and its not finding any drivers for my gpu
[16:11] <OerHeks> adekto, for what GPU exactly? terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[16:11] <adekto> nvidea gtx970
[16:12] <bekks> adekto: And which Ubuntu exactly?
[16:12] <adekto> current
[16:12] <adekto> the one from the site
[16:12] <adekto> idk
[16:12] <OerHeks> gt 970 is supporte by the nvidia 343.22 and up
[16:12] <bekks> adekto: Whats the outcome of "cat /etc/issue"?
[16:13] <adekto> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:14] <zaggynl> I added the xorg-edgers ppa for nvidia driver
[16:15] <adekto> what do i do? i tryed to do it by force befor in terminal but that broke the hole system so i had to re install the os
[16:16] <foobar12> anyone know what actually checks for ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount and ~/.ecryptfs/auto-unmount and reads ~/.ecryptfs/Private.mnt for automatically mounting/unmounting the encrypted home folder? trying to set up an additional encrypted folder on a separate drive for a user, and I've got everything but the automatic mount/unmount on login/logout working (which I'd prefer to work through the same process as the home folder)
[16:16] <zaggynl> adekto: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[16:17] <adekto> yea that coused my keybourd and mouse to not work on login
[16:17] <adekto> but il try it again
[16:17] <zaggynl> er
[16:17] <zaggynl> what if you use the proprietary driver in ubuntu?
[16:18] <adekto> what driver?
[16:18] <zaggynl> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/drivers
[16:19] <OerHeks> i am not sure this works for 14.04 : sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[16:19] <adekto> its not showing any
[16:19] <schockley> trying to get samba on 14.04 to share a printer. total fail. I've tried everything: testparm, smbtree does not list the printer. I've tried all the usual links. Totally stumped
[16:19] <zaggynl> the keyboard/mouse thing is a known issue apparently
[16:20] <schockley> I copied a smb.conf from a 14.04 that successfully shares the same printers. Still no go
[16:20] <schockley> no firewall. ufw is disabled
[16:20] <zaggynl> adekto: do you have a bluetooth connected keyboard/mouse?
[16:20] <adekto> no
[16:21] <zaggynl> hrm
[16:22] <rukmangadan> hi
[16:23] <marcos_> hi
[16:28] <thatkid_> Hello, I want to manage contacts and remove duplicates from a vcf file, Is there any tool available for that?
[16:30] <knockOut> yo guys
[16:30] <patero> Yo
[16:31] <patero> My name is fernando
[16:34] <schockley> seasoned ubuntu user for over 10 years. Computer Science degree. Master's in engineering. 2 hours trying to share a network printer. Why do I use linux? Goodnight
[16:34] <walid> hi
[16:36] <marcos__> .
[16:43] <aphrode_> bye
[16:44] <paopao> can anyone tell me how to chat with a person, i'm using andchat, what's the command. thanks!
[16:44] <tr00p> paopao: /query name
[16:44] <tr00p> it'll open a query
[16:44] <paopao> thank you so much
[16:45] <tr00p> or /msg name
[16:45] <tr00p> won't open query, but will send a message to person
[16:46] <paopao> got it, thanks. i'll give it a try.
[16:47] <marcos__> k
[16:48] <paopao> it worked.
[16:57] <thatkid_> Hello, can anybody help me to split a vcf file into multiple one?
[17:00] <OerHeks> !info vcftools
[17:00] <patero> I wish
[17:01] <samphippen> where would I look in a server's logs to determine when it was last powered off and powered on?
[17:01] <alexus1212u> hey, im trying to move from one SSD to another SSD, but im stuck. i think its because i use cryptsetup, ecryptfs and moved from btrfs to ext4. i have grub running, but its not booting, i get an mdadm error (but i dont use raid, maybe because of lvm)? any ideads appreciated
[17:04] <OerHeks> samphippen, " last reboot | head -1 "
[17:05] <OerHeks> thatkid_, i found vcftools, but no example to split, just merge
[17:05] <gl_> privet
[17:06] <gl_> а че тут делаете?
[17:06] <gl_> где здесь арена
[17:06] <OerHeks> alexus1212u, moving to an other ssd is one thing, changing to btrfs is unusual.
[17:06] <OerHeks> with encryption*
[17:07] <gl_> join #arena
[17:07] <alexus1212u> OerHeks: i went from btrfs to ext4. i thought if i use a tar of the OS i can simply do that (changed mtag to ext4)
[17:07] <gl_> !join #arena
[17:07] <gl_> #arena
[17:07] <alexus1212u> *fstab, sorry been sitting too long on this
[17:08] <OerHeks> alexus1212u, cannot help you there :-(
[17:08] <alexus1212u> no worries, thanks for trying :)
[17:10] <Whitelion> yo anyone knows a IRC channel for RoseGarden?
[17:11] <xangua> !alis | Whitelion
[17:12] <tekku> hi guys
[17:12] <tekku> my drive needs a manual fsck, and at boot grub is asking for the system password or Ctrl+D to continue
[17:12] <tekku> the thing is
[17:13] <tekku> the system password contains # (hash/pound symbol)
[17:13] <tekku> which i can't seem to find on the keyboard layout that grub is expecting
[17:13] <tekku> so my question is
[17:13] <tekku> 1. where is it
[17:13] <tekku> 2. the grub documentation refers to setting a keyboard layout, but gives no examples or accepted inputs
[17:13] <tekku> KEYBOARDTYPE=kbtype
[17:15] <tekku> or laternatively
[17:15] <tekku> is there a kernel option that allows me to bypass the forced fsck
[17:15] <tekku> so i can boot system, login, change root pass, reboot, fsck
[17:16] <tekku> fastboot is enough?
[17:17] <alexus1212u> SHIFT 2
[17:17] <alexus1212u> no
[17:17] <alexus1212u> SHOFT 3
[17:17] <tekku> hmm, fastboot no longer works
[17:17] <tekku> shift 3 has no output at all
[17:17] <tekku> and alt 3
[17:17] <tekku> i think tried shift 3
[17:17] <tekku> hash/pound outputs a 3 oddly
[17:17] <tekku> i use a UK keyboard
[17:17] <OerHeks> tekku, easy on the enter please
[17:18] <tekku> ok, well will KEYBOARDTYPE=gb  make things anymore optimistic? I don't know what keyboard type grub is defaulting to? just "pc" ?
[17:20] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway of listing directories that contain e.g. just pictures?
[17:21] <mojtaba> Or have pictures
[17:21] <tekku> mojtaba, you could glob on known extensions
[17:21] <tekku> ls */*.png
[17:21] <tekku> or ls */* and pipe to grep o do the same
[17:21] <mojtaba> tekku: I just wnat to list directory names.
[17:24] <alexus1212u> find / -iname *.jpg
[17:28] <tekku> fast boot did the trick in the end
[17:29] <habanany> hey fellows, i have a question, i noticed that "paste.ubuntu.com" is labeled as "pastebin" does that mean i can use pastebin.org in this irc or "ubuntu pastebin" is the only acpeted, bear with my poor grammar and thanks for your attention
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> habanany  you can use any pastebin you want
[17:30] <OerHeks> habanany, you are free to use pastebin.com, but be aware! not all countries allow pastebin.com, paste.ubuntu.com is allowed everywhere AFAIK
[17:30] <Seylerius> Ubuntu live discs come with lspci and lsusb, right?
[17:30] <OerHeks> Seylerius, yes
[17:30] <OerHeks> lspci lsusb lscpu lshw
[17:30] <vas> Hey Guys - I keep having a random system crash. I am running Ubuntu 14 and Gnome 3, but my monitors.xml file keepts getting deleted (randomly, when I'm away from my computer, so I think it may be a hibernation issue) and I have to reset my monitors config, and then move all my windows back to the right desktops.. very annoying because I develop so I have a billion windows always open.... I tossed my crash logs on my server vkaloidis.com/mo
[17:30] <vas> nitors-crash.tar.gz
[17:30] <Seylerius> Thanks.
[17:31] <TheCubeLord> hi
[17:31] <habanany> thanks for the info dear fellows
[17:31] <TheCubeLord> Hello fellow ubuntu users :)
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> TheCubeLord: welcome, what can we do for you?
[17:32] <vas> And thanks in advance :-)
[17:38] <Cerealkiller> Hello,i have some trouble with my apache
[17:39] <Cerealkiller> Until last night, localhost worked great,but now localhost redirects me to localhost/index.html (a non existent file,so i get a 404) i want it to show the root (/var/www/html) where i have my folders with different sites
[17:39] <rtreleaven> Cerealkiller what is the matter with your apache
[17:39] <rtreleaven> so what changed last night?
[17:40] <Cerealkiller> 127.0.0.1 works,and does just that
[17:40] <Cerealkiller> Last night i think what might have created this is that i changed ownership of a file i belive
[17:40] <rtreleaven> what file
[17:40] <Cerealkiller> i tried fixing a problem that i got a 403 in my console when adding a favicon
[17:40] <rtreleaven> ?
[17:40] <Cerealkiller> I don't actually seem to remember
[17:41] <Cerealkiller> I tried re-installing apache but with no luck
[17:41] <rtreleaven> use the history command to see if that reminds you
[17:41] <Guest70804> did you remove apache first or reinstall on top of it?
[17:41] <Cerealkiller> purged apache then re-installed
[17:42] <rtreleaven> if 127.0.0.1 works and localhost does not then I have to wonder what localhost resolves to
[17:42] <Guest70804> what kind of files were you working on permissions?
[17:42] <Cerealkiller> Let me check the history
[17:43] <habanany> help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/11867926/
[17:43] <Cerealkiller> Doesn't really give me any clue
[17:43] <Cerealkiller> So probably ownership of a file didn't do that
[17:43] <Cerealkiller> also, i remember accidentaly creating a folder calling it "index.html" in the /var/www/html
[17:44] <Guest70804> and you removed it?
[17:44] <Cerealkiller> Yes
[17:44] <Meerkat> Hello. I wanna add a PGP key to a server but seahorse wont let me add "pgp.mit.edu". The OK button is grey.
[17:45] <Cerealkiller> adding it doesn't help either,since i still get a 403
[17:45] <Cerealkiller> i mean,adding a file called index.html
[17:45] <rtreleaven> Cerealkiller what does localhost resolve to?
[17:45] <Cerealkiller> rtreleaven, I don't understand that question
[17:45] <Guest70804> still get a 403 with file index.html present?
[17:45] <rtreleaven> nslookup localhost
[17:45] <Cerealkiller> yes
[17:46] <Cerealkiller> rtreleaven, Name:	localhost
[17:46] <Cerealkiller> Address: 127.0.0.1
[17:46] <rtreleaven> then both should work.
[17:46] <Cerealkiller> It's really odd
[17:47] <rtreleaven> Is your browser doing something unexpected
[17:47] <rtreleaven> ?
[17:47] <Cerealkiller> Not really
[17:47] <ioria> Cerealkiller, what's in the index.html ?
[17:47] <rtreleaven> try another browser
[17:47] <Cerealkiller> let me try another browser
[17:47] <Cerealkiller> ioria, There is no index.html file
[17:47] <Guest70804> did you change owner of the folder?
[17:47] <Cerealkiller> Ok,seems like chrome is the problem
[17:47] <rtreleaven> bingo
[17:47] <Cerealkiller> localhost is working in mozilla
[17:48] <Cerealkiller> oh god,i've been struggling with this thing since last night
[17:49] <Cerealkiller> now ,could you guys help me even if it is not a problem with my apache?
[17:49] <rtreleaven> what kind of help would you like?
[17:49] <Cerealkiller> I don't recall doing anything wrong last night
[17:49] <Cerealkiller> To get localhost working on chrome lol
[17:49] <Cerealkiller> should i delete the cache?
[17:49] <rtreleaven> yes
[17:50] <Cerealkiller> just a sec
[17:52] <Cerealkiller> Thanks for your help guys,i narrowed it to chrome,deleted the cache and sure enough,it's working!
[17:54] <rtreleaven> I narrowed it to chrome
[17:54] <Cerealkiller> rtreleaven, Yes,you did,thanks
[17:54] <rtreleaven> your welcome
[17:54] <Cerealkiller> cy
[17:54] <Cerealkiller> cya*
[17:55] <Whitelion>  hi there anyone knows why afther using rosegarden my audio is deactivated?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> Whitelion: any errors when you start rosegarden from terminal?
[17:59] <chmodi> hi, i cannot do cd to my home What can i do?
[17:59] <chmodi> i did sudo chmod 700 /home/user but nothing happens
[18:00] <OerHeks> chmodi, why did you do that for?
[18:00] <kdzar> 700 hey
[18:00] <kdzar> brave
[18:01] <chmodi> in orther to login
[18:01] <symbiosis> Does anyone happen to have a good link for info on how to ensure the wpa_supplicant rules are run on every boot?  What connects the /etc/network/interfaces file to to wpa_supplicant rules in other words?
[18:02] <chmodi> I tried to keep my /home from a fedora installations but i got .ICEauthority thing
[18:04] <chmodi> hi
[18:04] <chmodi>  home/user is 700 but i cannot do cd or ls
[18:04] <ioria> chmodi   ls -al .ICEauthority  ?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> symbiosis: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[18:06] <chmodi> i have to run that in # because in $ i get Permission denied
[18:06] <symbiosis> lotuspsychje: read my mind...reading it now.  Thank you much.
[18:07] <chmodi> -rwx------. 1 user user 46176 jul 12 19:46 /home/rosa/.ICEauthority
[18:07] <chmodi> -rwx------. 1 user user 46176 jul 12 19:46 /home/rser/.ICEauthority
[18:07] <chmodi> sorry, -rwx------. 1 user user 46176 jul 12 19:46 /home/user/.ICEauthority
[18:08] <ioria> chmodi   and ls -al .Xauthority    ?
[18:08] <rtreleaven> what is rosegarden?
[18:09] <ioria> midi, i think
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !info rosegarden | rtreleaven
[18:09] <rtreleaven> Whitelion is it pausing pulse audio so that it can use alsa?
[18:13] <chmodi> -bash: cd /home/user: Permission denied
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !enter | chmodi
[18:14] <simran_> jh
[18:14] <simran_> test chat
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !test | simran_
[18:14] <simran_> ok
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> that was an elaborate way to say: "it works, we can see you"
[18:17] <nmatrix9> I finally got my nvidia drivers working and I managed to resolve the missing cursor issue!
[18:17] <nmatrix9> I think it's time we celebrate
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> nmatrix9: share us how
[18:21] <nmatrix9> lotuspsychje, 3 steps actually, 1. I had to upgrade my kernel to 3.19 2. I ran the command "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false" in a terminal for the missing cursor issue in Xubuntu and then 3. YOU MUST REMOVE bumblebee from your repository if not you will fsck yourself over a gazillion times!  Then install the xorg-edge repository and then install your nvidia driver nvidia-346
[18:22] <TheCubeLord> i am using kiwiirc :)
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> nmatrix9: bumblebee is outdated, do you have an optimus card?
[18:22] <nmatrix9> lotuspsychje, for step number 2. I did a full reboot
[18:22] <TheCubeLord> Test
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !test | TheCubeLord
[18:23] <TheCubeLord> bots?
[18:23] <TheCubeLord> how!
[18:23] <nmatrix9> lotuspsychje, I have Geforce GTX 550 Ti
[18:23] <TheCubeLord> How to bots
[18:24] <TheCubeLord> !test
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> TheCubeLord: this is an ubuntu support channel, please only type here when you have a question
[18:24] <TheCubeLord> ok
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> nmatrix9: ok tnx for feedback
[18:26] <nmatrix9> lotuspsychje, mind you I did all this from 14.04
[18:27] <symbiosis> Does anyone know the significance of the numbers in the symbolic links in the rcS.d directory?  The files are all of the form Sxx-somename.
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> symbiosis: can you tell us what your trying to do?
[18:29] <chmodi> cd /home permission denied
[18:29] <symbiosis> I am trying to get the WPA supplicant rule to run at boot time.  An example in the link above was to create a link to a wpa launch script in /etc/init.d.
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> symbiosis  methinks the S means Symbolic link
[18:29] <symbiosis> lotuspsychje: at the end of the day, I am just trying to get my wireless network to connect when the system boots.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> symbiosis: wireless network should boot automaticly?
[18:30] <symbiosis> MonkeyDust: Per the README file in the rcS.d directory, it indicates that the file is to be executed at system boot
[18:31] <symbiosis> lotuspsychje: My wired ethernet does, but not my wireless.  I have to manually run the wpa_supplicant rules to get it to connect.  Works fine, but just trying to have it done automatically.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> symbiosis: ubuntu version?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> symbiosis  yes, there's also rc1, rc2 etc
[18:31] <symbiosis> lotuspsychje: 14.04, but for the sake of full disclosure, this is a Kodi system
[18:32] <symbiosis> lotuspsychje: this is Kodi 15.0
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> symbiosis  the README explains what it is
[18:33] <ioria> chmodi   can you paste the output of ls -l /  ?
[18:38] <chmodi> ioria: on home line drwxrw-rw-. 5 root root 4096 jul 12 20:33 home
[18:38] <chmodi> ioria: lib folder drwxr-xr-x
[18:38] <ioria> chmodi   can you please paste the line here ?
[18:39] <chmodi> ioria: it's on another computer, so i have to type it here
[18:40] <ioria> chmodi   home should be drwxr-xr-x
[18:41] <ioria> chmodi  and ls -l /home ?
[18:41] <chmodi> thats it
[18:42] <chmodi> ioria: i got cannot access /home/user Permission denied cannot access /home/lost+found Permission denied
[18:43] <ioria> chmodi  and with sudo ?
[18:44] <chmodi> ioria: now i set chmod 755 /home and seems it's solved :selffacepalm:
[18:44] <ioria> chmodi  ok
[18:44] <chmodi> thanks ioria :)
[18:45] <ioria> chmodi  you're welcome
[19:22] <sync0pate> anyone know if there's a way to make the "rename" command create new dirs?
[19:23] <bekks> sync0pate: you can rename a directory, too.
[19:23] <sync0pate> bekks, I want to create new dirs
[19:23] <nicomachus> mkdir?
[19:23] <bekks> sync0pate: Then use mkdir
[19:23] <sync0pate> no but with the rename command
[19:23] <sync0pate> batch
[19:24] <sync0pate> I have a ton of files, for example march.doc, march.xls, march.txt
[19:24] <bekks> The ranme command renames existing objects.
[19:24] <bekks> *rename
[19:24] <sync0pate> and I want them all to be march/abc.doc, march/abc.xls, march/abc.txt
[19:24] <bekks> The mkdir command creates new directories. One job, one tool.
[19:24] <aeon-ltd> mv?
[19:25] <sync0pate> this is what I have: rename s/'^(.+)\.'/'$1\/$1\.'/ *
[19:25] <sync0pate> but doesn't work, because the dirs need creating
[19:25] <sync0pate> I think
[19:26] <bekks> sync0pate: So create them using mkdir.
[19:26] <sync0pate> manually? there's loads..
[19:26] <sync0pate> I was wondering if there was a way to do it more easily.
[19:27] <bekks> Script it.
[19:27] <sync0pate> not a clue where to start with bash scripting
[19:27] <bekks> mkdir $1 ? :)
[19:27] <bekks> You already used variables, for the rename command.
[19:27] <sync0pate> I know regex..
[19:28] <sync0pate> I know programming
[19:28] <sync0pate> I don't know shell scripting
[19:28] <alexus1212u> OerHeks: i finally made it, but got rif off cryptsetup, only ecryptfs left
[19:31] <m82labs> Anyone in here able to suggest to best method to encrypt a directory on my mail server? I want to encrypt the directory where my mail resides. My initial though was an encrypted loopback filesystem. Any reason that is a bad idea?
[19:32] <apocalips> .dns
[19:32] <apocalips> .dns www.google.it
[19:33] <Lee_> Hey
[19:33] <jumble_e_whopper> new install of lubuntu 14.04, tried to run POL/Wine game now resolution is stuck at 800x600 and additional drivers window has 'continue using a manually installed driver' option selected and can't change it. any help please?
[19:35] <Lee_> I've just upgraded to 15.04 and my filesystem has become read only, taking my website and VPN down with it! Anyone know why this has happened and how I could fix it? I think the UUID may be wrong
[19:35] <Lee_> http://askubuntu.com/q/647527/99155
[19:36] <bubbasaures> Lee_, You did this without making images off any of this?
[19:36] <mumersidd> hi every one
[19:41] <swahili> I'm getting this error npm ERR! nospc and is related to insufficient space on your system.
[19:41] <swahili> But I still have available space
[19:41] <swahili> What partition should I look for available space ? Any tips please ? Thanks!
[19:42] <bubbasaures> Lee_, Looks like your waiting for some service from D Ocean, are we like jumping the gun here?
[19:43] <bubbasaures> swaagie, You terminal only, any gui?
[19:43] <bubbasaures> swaagie, Sorry, bad type
[19:44] <bubbasaures> swahili, You terminal only, any gui?
[19:44] <swahili> bubbasaures: thanks for looking. I can use the gui or terminal
[19:44] <bubbasaures> swaagie, A screenshot of gparted would be great.
[19:44] <Lee_> @bubbasaures they've taken out the recover disk, I've booted back into the normal OS and its still read only. Will likely need to boot back into recovery so I can write changez
[19:46] <bubbasaures> Lee_, Cool, you do have a uuid issue as the info I'm assuming is accurate shows, how that happened is a mystery for sure. The ramification in this context I'm not sure.
[19:47] <bubbasaures> Lee_, You might try #ubuntu-server if you think appropriate.
[19:50] <swahili> bubbasaures: a screenshot http://oi61.tinypic.com/2uokqo4.jpg
[19:50] <Lee_> @bubbasaures I think it must be, but I honestly have no idea
[19:50] <Lee_> @bubbasaures OK, I'll try there
[19:50] <nicomachus> Lee_: you don't need an @ on irc
[19:51] <Lee_> Oh haha
[19:51] <nicomachus> just type the name. you can actually just type the first few letters and then hit TAB to autocomplete, even.
[19:51] <Lee_> Don't use it often, thanks haha
[19:51] <nicomachus> np
[19:51] <swahili> I don't know in which partition my system files are being saved otherwise I'd use the available space
[19:51] <Lee_> I'm on my phone at the moment, saw this link in the sidebar on reddit :)
[19:52] <gawd> Ahoy !!
[19:53] <Lee_> bubbasaures do you think I could just change a UUID and fix it?
[19:53] <bubbasaures> swahili, YOu have 3 primary partition and an extened with logicals, that is the max primaries you can have. All you can do as is is move sda4 and extend the sda3 the extanded and add logicals. However you have partitions out of order left to right, this as is can cause issues.
[19:54] <bubbasaures> Lee_, No Idea really, none of that I've done, I'm working from knowing general info.
[19:55] <Lee_> Okay haha, thanks anyway! :)
[19:55] <foobar12> anyone know if there are plans to update wiki.ubuntu.com to use a non-broken version of tls anytime soon? I've got broken/weak ciphers and protocols disabled in my primary browser, and having to switch browsers is annoying
[19:55] <swahili> bubbasaures: not sure I understood.  need to extend sda3 and add logicals ? Also don't know what to do about moving the sd4, what do you mean move ?
[19:55] <bubbasaures> swahili, You can see from gparted though how full the partitions are.
[19:56] <swahili> bubbasaures: yeah, I've installed ubuntu 3 years ago I think and just followed a tutorial
[19:56] <dodo__> I wanted clone a git repo with ssh, but ssh says "Host key verification failed." Why it doesn't work?
[19:56] <bubbasaures> swahili, Read the very first sentence, you are at the max amount of primary partitions. HD's have limitations is all.
[19:58] <bubbasaures> swahili, In order to use that unallocated space you will have to move and resize other partitions to add another partition, the unallocated is dead space unless you exspand the partition bext to it.
[19:58] <bubbasaures> next*
[19:58] <swahili> Can I just expand a partition with the unallocated space ?
[19:59] <swahili> ideally I just wanted to expand the partition where my sistem files go. in this case where NPM is installing stuff
[19:59] <bubbasaures> swahili, Yes, sda4. I also would like you to understand your predicament, that is really messy is all and I feel your not sure why. ;)
[20:00] <MikroFaune> hi everybody
[20:00] <swahili> bubbasaures: I don't. Just followed a beginners tutorial to install ubuntu back then.
[20:00] <swahili> I'll just expand sda4 then
[20:00] <MikroFaune> quelqu'un parle français sur le canal?
[20:00] <MikroFaune> svp
[20:01] <bubbasaures> swahili, Cool, I just wanna see you succeed.
[20:01] <bubbasaures> !fr | MikroFaune
[20:02] <swahili> bubbasaures: oh cool it's working now. thanks a lot dude!
[20:02] <swahili> I'm planning to, format everything and install ubuntu again.
[20:02] <bubbasaures> swahili, Great, no prob.
[20:02] <swahili> but this time I'll just follow the defaults
[20:02] <MikroFaune> ok its not a problem, just my english is not perfect sorry
[20:02] <swahili> from the disk install
[20:03] <MikroFaune> i need help tell me when you can help me ;)
[20:04] <bubbasaures> MikroFaune, Just let the channel know what the issue is, that's the way it works here. ;)
[20:06] <MikroFaune> ok, i installed ubuntu studio and every time i want to see a YT video it go freeze; i tried with chromium and ubuntu, i tried many plugins like flashplayer or flashpepper nothing can fix my problem... any ideas?
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> MikroFaune  enable html5, scroll down   https://www.youtube.com/html5
[20:09] <OerHeks> MikroFaune, i use chrome for flash tings, for a long time now
[20:09] <MikroFaune> i tried html5 too, restarted browsers and system, but it dont works :/
[20:10] <MikroFaune> i will try uninstall/reinstall firefox and chromium maybe it can fix it?
[20:10] <bubbasaures> MikroFaune, That is a kinda a busy desktop is the hardware up for it, the ram.....etc
[20:10] <OerHeks> MikroFaune, did you look for better gpu drivers?
[20:10] <MikroFaune> how can i do that?
[20:10] <xeper> hello. how can I open the terminal of XChat?
[20:10] <MikroFaune> in setting>non-open drivers?
[20:10] <bubbasaures> xeper, terminal?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> MikroFaune  maybe it has to do with hardware accelleration...
[20:11] <bubbasaures> xeper, There are irc term apps
[20:11] <mjbrancato> MikroFaune, what type of video card do you have?
[20:11] <nicomachus> xeper: irssi is an irc terminal app
[20:11] <xeper> I mean. Seems I need to execute a command is a Termnal of the IRC client :/
[20:12] <bekks> xeper: Which command?
[20:12] <bubbasaures> xeper, where you type now
[20:12] <mjbrancato> xeper, type xchat in terminal
[20:13] <MikroFaune> monkeydust> i think it can be what you say, how can i disable hardware/graphic accelleration please?
[20:13] <xeper> Ok. I am trying to install Lita Chatbot.  I already finished all the steps but I don't get this one: Make sure you're connected to IRC using your IRC client of choice or a web client, and that you're in the channel that you want Lita to join. Then, start your bot. lita start
[20:13] <Mitsuru> Oh no :P no bots plz
[20:14] <OerHeks> MikroFaune, i wouldn't disable it, as it takes the load of your cpu, which might be your issue
[20:14] <xeper> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-lita-chat-bot-for-irc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[20:14] <xeper> Step 3
[20:15] <mjbrancato> I have a question, how do I get my IRC servers/channels to autoconnect on start in Xchat?
[20:16] <xeper> can someone help?
[20:16] <nicomachus> mjbrancato: right click on the channel and select "autojoin"
[20:16] <bubbasaures> mjbrancato, first gui when you load it hit edit and put in pass etc, I would delay it's finish is all.
[20:16] <Mitsuru> I dunno xeper, newbie on irc too :(
[20:17] <xeper> ok :/
[20:17] <xeper> thanks anyway
[20:17] <patero-ng> Im new to aow
[20:17] <Mitsuru> But why would you even like to bot a IRC channel? :D
[20:18] <foobar12> are there any arguments that get passed to the script specified for lightdm's session-cleanup-script setting, such as the user whose session is to be cleaned up?
[20:18] <nicomachus> Mitsuru: bots in IRC are very helpful. but this is off topic, and better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:18] <Mitsuru> Okay!
[20:18] <nicomachus> for instance, ubottu is very helpful here:
[20:19] <nicomachus> !offtopic
[20:19] <doudou> have lastest debian distrib a pcspkr module by default?
[20:19] <doudou> have lastest ubuntu distrib a pcspkr module by default?
[20:19] <nicomachus> !pcspkr
[20:19] <nicomachus> !info pcspkr
[20:20] <kostkon> xeper, just running it from a terminal would do, but you can use exec <command> if you want to start the bot from inside xchat (in this case /exec lita start?), without opening a terminal, if you think it's faster that way. No real difference though.
[20:20] <bekks> Thats not a single package.
[20:20] <bekks> !find pcspkr
[20:20] <doudou> it is a module you spee with lsmod and that beep when to mistake in terminals
[20:20] <nicomachus> doudou: looks like a yes.
[20:20] <bekks> doudou: So investigate the URL given by ubottu :)
[20:21] <OerHeks> doudou yes, pcspkr & snd_pcsp
[20:21] <doudou> so when this module strated to be installed? I dont remmember it in old distrib?
[20:21] <nicomachus> bekks: that url gives an error. :/
[20:23] <xeper> I tried on the terminal and nothing happens. if i do it here nothing happens either :/
[20:24] <Mitsuru> Does this count for xubuntu-related Q's as well?
[20:25] <james21> prolly xeper
[20:27] <nicomachus> Mitsuru: just ask the question
[20:46] <andybrine> does anyone know if there is a wordpress IRC?
[20:46] <EriC^^> andybrine: /msg alis list *wordpress*
[20:46] <k1l> !alis | andybrine
[20:46] <andybrine> thanks eric
[20:46] <EriC^^> np
[20:47] <rp2> hello all ... I'm looking for a MIDI player that allows me to change tempo and rewind to any moment in the song
[20:47] <gie> assalamualaykum
[20:48] <rp2> timidity -ig gets close but doesn't allow me to back up to an arbitrary place
[20:48] <rp2> any suggestions?
[20:50] <knockout> hi guys
[20:50] <knockout> Postfix configuration was not changed.  If you need to make changes, edit
[20:50] <knockout> /etc/postfix/main.cf (and others) as needed.  To view Postfix configuration
[20:50] <knockout> values, see postconf(1).
[20:50] <knockout> After modifying main.cf, be sure to run '/etc/init.d/postfix reload'.
[20:50] <knockout> Running newaliases
[20:52] <knockout> anyone here to help in pvt
[20:52] <rp2> knockout: what are you doing to cause these messages?
[20:53] <OerHeks> knockout use paste.ubuntu.com for the output, you were cut off
[20:53] <knockout> sorry bro i was copyng here a error i get
[20:53] <knockout> need a helpsorry for flood
[20:54] <peromax> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside Windows 8 on Lenovo G580, could anyone help me with the procedure?
[20:56] <damme> hey guys, Ive tried a couple of times to run kernel 4+ (4.1) on my laptop, and I just cant get nvidia graphics driver to work, is this a known issue or am I doing it wrong? 3100m
[21:04] <bobafett> which laptop is best for ubuntu?
[21:05] <rp2> which country is best for driving?
[21:05] <bobafett> germany
[21:05] <rp2> bobafett: that is kind of a vague question. what do you want to do with it?
[21:06] <alexus1212u> germany
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | bobafett is this useful
[21:09] <bobafett> heres an interesting read on driving in Germany on the Autobahn http://imgur.com/gallery/VtgEy
[21:11] <bobafett> im trying to decide which is best for ubuntu, dell xps13, lenovo x1 carbon etc
[21:11] <alexus1212u> i run xubuntu on an i7, i like it more
[21:11] <alexus1212u> im running it on a x1c :)
[21:11] <beepie> bobafett, system76 as they work directly with canonical employees
[21:12] <alexus1212u> bobafett everything is detected on my x1c. back in 12.x the 3g modem wasnt working, afaik, but you only had to blacklist a module
[21:12] <bobafett> currently use a lenovo x201 tablet, touch screens not great with all apps and I was wanting 16gb ram for vms
[21:13] <beepie> bobafett, https://system76.com/
[21:14] <Ionic> VMS is still around? good lord
[21:15] <bobafett> vms short for virtual machines
[21:16] <alexus1212u> bobafett which version of the x1c you plan to buy?
[21:16] <beepie> alexus1212u, i think he said he wanted a system76 machine
[21:16] <alexus1212u> he said x1c or xps13
[21:16] <beepie> alexus1212u, he also said "etc" which means etcetera etcetera etcetera
[21:17] <beepie> ha!
[21:17]  * beepie beeps
[21:17] <Ionic> bobafett: see, that's why you should use VM's in this case
[21:26] <gt8ost4l> i need help how come the wirless networks are not showing up
[21:28] <cr45h> type ifconfig in a terminal
[21:28] <cr45h> do you see your wireless interface?
[21:28] <cr45h> should be something like "wlan0"
[21:29] <gt8ost4l> no its not there
[21:29] <gt8ost4l> all i see is lo and ath0
[21:29] <gt8ost4l> eth0
[21:29] <cr45h> if you type "lspci" do you see you wireless card listed?
[21:30] <rypervenche> gt8ost4l: lspci -nn | grep Network
[21:30] <gt8ost4l> yes its there
[21:32] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: what's the output of 'sudo lshw -class network'
[21:32] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, I got my nvidia drivers installed on 3.19.0-22
[21:32] <nicomachus> \o/
[21:33] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, latest version too!
[21:33] <nicomachus> no more overscan?
[21:33] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, nope
[21:33] <nicomachus> yay
[21:33] <gt8ost4l> sudo: lshw-class: command not found
[21:33] <nicomachus> there's a space there, gt8ost4l
[21:33] <nmatrix9> nicomachus, 3.19 also solves the issue of the disappearing mouse in Xubuntu
[21:33] <gt8ost4l> oh sorry
[21:34] <nicomachus> and gt8ost4l: paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com and then paste that link here.
[21:35] <ronin> what was the efficient cmd line program for editing images
[21:35] <bobafett> on the side of the laptop is there a on/off switch for the wifi, or with keyboard combination fn and f5(or the one with the wifi icon)
[21:36] <cr45h> edit images in what aspect?
[21:36] <ronin> resize etc
[21:36] <ronin> rotate
[21:36] <nicomachus> bobafett: I'm curious to see if it's disabled for some reason. waiting on the lshw output to see.
[21:36] <ronin> cr45h,
[21:37] <gt8ost4l> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11869200/
[21:37] <cr45h> imagemagick is what you want to use but Im not sure about rotating
[21:37] <nicomachus> yea, see? Unclaimed.
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> ronin  cr45h was faster, just found this http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/04/edit-images-on-ubuntu-via-command-line.html
[21:37] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: you're going to need the driver for it.
[21:38] <cr45h> gt8ost4l: same wireless card as me so it definitely is compatible
[21:39] <gt8ost4l> nicomachus where do i get this driver?
[21:39] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: I'm checking, one sec
[21:40] <cr45h> gt8ost4l: type:
[21:40] <cr45h> sudo modprobe -rfv ath9k
[21:40] <cr45h> sudo modprobe -v ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[21:42] <cr45h> if that works then do the following command to save that change:
[21:42] <cr45h> echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[21:43] <ash_m> is puphpet supposed to be used in lieu of vagrant boxes (not Vagrant, but specifically boxes)?
[21:43] <beepie> puppet
[21:43] <beepie> ash_m, try muppet
[21:44]  * beepie says it's time to put on makeup
[21:44] <ash_m> beepie: I noticed that vagrant has a puppet command; that is not the same as https://puphpet.com/ right?
[21:44] <beepie> cool
[21:44] <beepie> lol
[21:44] <beepie> didnt know about puphpet
[21:44] <ronin> MonkeyDust, yes, with imagegick: for file in *.jpg; do convert -rotate -90 "$file" "test/$file";done
[21:44] <ronin> useful<3
[21:44] <beepie> i just use bash+kvm
[21:44] <gt8ost4l> cr45h nop still nothing
[21:44] <beepie> I don't use any front-ends
[21:45] <cr45h> gt8ost4l: still no wlan0 or wireless interface showing up in ifconfig?
[21:45] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: wget https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.9-rc4/compat-drivers-3.9-rc4-2-s.tar.bz2
[21:45] <nicomachus> that will download the driver
[21:46] <ash_m> beepie: a lot of people promote puphpet with Vagrant, but I really don't understand the purpose, exactly
[21:46] <beepie> ash_m, does that actually work good?
[21:46] <nicomachus> then unzip it and run the make file
[21:46] <ash_m> beepie: supposedly; many people have approved of this
[21:46] <beepie> ash_m, looks like vagrant is the vm machine template you use
[21:47] <georgent> Quick question... : what is the best method in order to encrypt a file ? gpg or something else?
[21:47] <ash_m> beepie: yeah, puphpet uses vagrant
[21:47] <gt8ost4l> nicomachus how do i do that
[21:47] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: do what? unzip it and run the make file?
[21:47] <beepie> ash_m, so it could just be a front-end to vagrant
[21:47] <beepie> ash_m, i guess
[21:48] <gt8ost4l> run the make file
[21:48] <beepie> ash_m, probably similar to libvirt front-ends for the command kvm/qemu
[21:48] <ash_m> beepie: :P
[21:48] <nicomachus> gt8ost4l: the wget command above will download it. then you can just find the find the file and double clip to open it, then click "extract"
[21:48] <beepie> ash_m, it wouldn't "replace" the back-ends, so they're not different editions
[21:49] <ash_m> beepie: not sure I follow; I think puphpet just stores a vagrant configuration you (and your team) can download
[21:49] <ash_m> beepie: _I think_
[21:49] <beepie> ash_m, check it's documentation
[21:49] <nicomachus> once that is done, go to a terminal and type in 'cd' and then the location of the download. it's probably just going to be 'compat-drivers-3.9-rc4-2-s.tar.bz2'
[21:49] <ash_m> beepie: I'm looking at it, but I don't think I'm getting smarter :P
[21:50] <nicomachus> so gt8ost4l just type in 'cd compat-drivers-3.9-rc4-2-s.tar.bz2/'
[21:50] <beepie> ash_m, "This is a gui configurator for the Vagrant automation tool. It uses Puppet as the provisioning backend."
[21:50] <beepie> ash_m, https://puphpet.com/#about
[21:51] <nicomachus> then type './scripts/driver-select ath9k', then 'sudo make', then 'sudo make install'
[21:51] <Virao> oi
[21:51] <ash_m> beepie: how is that different from what I said?
[21:52] <beepie> ash_m, I didn't read that until after I told you likely what it is
[21:52] <ash_m> beepie: lol, but more importantly
[21:52] <beepie> ash_m, join their #irc/ml for more help
[21:52] <beepie> ash_m, i don't use it
[21:52] <ash_m> beepie: does that mean puphpet is not very helpful if you're just going to use a box with Vagrant?
[21:53] <beepie> ash_m, I don't use it, so I can't say.
[21:53] <beepie> ash_m, you can use qemu , vbox, etc with the command-line only, it's personal preference.
[21:54] <ash_m> beepie: thanks anyway! sometimes I miss stuff. I appreciate you helping me :_
[21:54] <ash_m> :)
[21:54] <beepie> ash_m, it's like saying on #vbox, what's the point of the "gui" interface
[21:54] <beepie> ash_m, up to you
[21:54] <stoneder> so the xfwm4 compositor has screen tearing issues.. I tried to get compton to work but when I try to boot it with startup (command line compton -b) the windows and the panel stop functioning
[21:54] <stoneder> how can I get compton to work with xfwm4?
[21:55] <ash_m> beepie: yeah; but if that's the distinction; that's what I'd like to know ;) I think the only other service it provides ...
[21:55] <ash_m> beepie: like Vagrant, users on your team can download the same environment configuration
[21:56] <ash_m> beepie: of course, Vagrant is setup to do that too, but you use your own VCS
[21:56] <ash_m> beepie: that's the impression I got anyway
[21:56] <ash_m> beepie: thanks again :)
[21:56] <a__> Hey, guys. I am currently trying to install xubuntu on my laptop and I am running through some issues. So, some weeks ago I installed Fedora 22 and now I decided that it isn't for me (big story). I installed it creating 4 partitions; 1 for EFI, 1 for root, 1 for home and 1 for swap. I tried to install xubuntu earlier and after rebooting, I got the Fedora booting EFI menu or whatever, so it seems that it KEPT fedora's partitions. Whenever I click 'in
[21:56] <a__> stall' using the default setting, it appears to be keeping the old partitions and just 'formating them'. But they need to be removed. When I manually try to create my  partitions, the installer crashes. I used gparted and removed them, rebooted and although they appear removed, I get the same issue. What to do? I checked it and my disc is fine.
[21:58] <a__> By same issue, I mean that they get formated and not removed
[21:58] <bagsbager> a__: what are you formating
[21:58] <beepie> a, maybe your setup issued dosmbr partitions and overwrote the protective gpt entry
[21:59] <beepie> a, try gdisk in a rescue shell (bash boot installer cd), and use "x", "z"  zap both dosmbr and gpt tables
[21:59] <bagsbager> a__: what are you formating
[21:59] <a__> bagsbager, i am trying to format nothing. I just click 'Erase disk and install Xubuntu' and it tells me that my fedora partitions get formated, but it still keeps them and there's no space
[22:00] <a__> in the end, that's the result after 'installing' xubuntu and rebooting
[22:00] <nicomachus> a__: did you try using gparted from a live disk and repartitioning the entire HDD as a single ext4 partition, then running the installer after a reboot?
[22:00] <TJ-> a__: That sounds like the ubuntu installer started in Legacy BIOS mode, not UEFI mode
[22:00] <bagsbager> a__: fedora by default uses virtual partitions
[22:01] <TJ-> bagsbager: what is a 'virtual' partition?!
[22:01] <a__> nicomachus, yeah, that's the last thing i tried
[22:02] <a__> TJ-, ok, let's try that, first, before trying what bagsbager suggested. What do i do?
[22:02] <beepie> bagsbager, beep!
[22:02] <beepie> bagsbager, beep!
[22:02] <beepie> bagsbager, beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppppppppppppppaaaaaaaaaaaa!
[22:02] <beepie> lol
[22:02] <beepie> there is no such thing as a virtual partition
[22:02] <beepie> pfff
[22:02] <moonchild> need help coz mozilla frozen often under linux
[22:02] <nicomachus> oh, TJ-, btw: those .old-dkms initrd are freaking *persistent*. I can't get rid of em
[22:03] <satmandu> Does anybody here configure wifi from the command line? Trying to figure out how to keep wpa_supplicant from running twice on vivid
[22:03] <bagsbager> a__: is your  set to boot uefi mode.
[22:04] <bagsbager> a__: is your  System set to boot uefi mode.
[22:05] <moonchild> need help!!!mozilla frozen under xubuntu
[22:05] <nicomachus> !patience | moonchild
[22:05]  * beepie -_-
[22:05] <beepie> bagsbager, you're being reported
[22:06] <hggdh> beepie: please stop. You were muted for spamming the channel, and you have already been told that
[22:06] <nicomachus> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11869363/
[22:06] <a__> bagsbager, how do i find out?
[22:06] <moonchild> k ubottu,thx
[22:06] <TJ-> nicomachus: You mean they reappear?
[22:06] <nicomachus> no I mean they just don't go away. see the paste.
[22:07] <beepie> hggdh, I was called a "faggot" and a "coon" in pm.
[22:07] <nicomachus> reboot didn't do anything either.
[22:07] <beepie> hggdh, by bagsbager, reporting this on #ubuntu-ops
[22:07] <bagsbager> beepie: it's called logical volumes
[22:07] <satmandu> My guess is that I'm starting wpa_supplicant from /etc/network/interfaces and also dbus is starting it. Is there a way to add ssids & passwords to configure wifi from the command line using just dbus?
[22:07] <TJ-> a__: Are you running the installer now? Did you start it in "Try ..." mode ?
[22:07] <a__> TJ-, yes
[22:08] <bagsbager> a__: do you know how to enter bios setup.
[22:08] <OerHeks> moonchild, remove .cache/mozilla/firefox + .mozilla and start firefox again? you loose your extentions, which can be an issue.
[22:08] <a__> bagsbager, yeah
[22:08] <TJ-> a__: the simple way to check for UEFI mode is to open a terminal and do "ls /sys/firmware/efi/vars/"  - if that lists anything the system started in UEFI mode
[22:08] <a__> bagsbager, but i've not seen anything about BIOS or UEFI
[22:08] <moonchild> oerheck,no extentions,but my processor have no sse2
[22:09] <OerHeks> moonchild, what has sse2 to do with it?
[22:09] <a__> TJ-, it listed a ton of things
[22:09] <bagsbager> a__: it may be labeled LEGACY MODE. That should be disabled to enable UEFI boot.
[22:10] <OerHeks> !uefi
[22:10] <cihhan> hi all! i have a ubuntu based router with multiple eth ports and each eth port has a subnet assigned for them such as 10.1.x.x, 10.2.x.x, etc. Since they are different subnets, they cant communicate normally. Is there a way that they can communicate with each other?
[22:10] <moonchild> oerhecks,i dont know...
[22:10] <cr45h> !taco
[22:10] <cr45h> !soda
[22:10] <TJ-> a__: Good; then the system booted in UEFI mode, and will install in that mode too
[22:10] <cr45h> !:(
[22:10] <nicomachus> cr45h: stop
[22:10] <moonchild> and my videocard is too hot
[22:11] <cr45h> nicomachus: :(
[22:11] <nicomachus> cr45h: you can PM ubottu to try commands out all you want, but keep the channel on topic.
[22:12] <bagsbager> OerHeks: it can fall back to MBR hiding the GPT partitions if he's not booting in uefi mode
[22:12] <a__> TJ-, wait a sec, if possible, i will show you a screenshot
[22:12] <beepie> a__, i gave you a solution like 15 minutes ago
[22:12] <OerHeks> bagsbager, i was thinking about mbr/gpt issue, gparted cannot handle gpt
[22:13] <beepie> OerHeks, yes it can
[22:13] <OerHeks> parted can, or gdisk
[22:13] <bobafett> @cihhan can you add entry in the routing table?
[22:13] <OerHeks> beepie, no, you are wrong.
[22:13] <bagsbager> a__: or called CSM. Some disable secure mode but it will can still boot in UEFI.
[22:13] <TJ-> nicomachus: You'll have to manually delete those files with "sudo rm /boot/initrd*.old-dkms"
[22:13] <cihhan> bobafett: yeah i have root access
[22:13] <beepie> OerHeks, i suggest you try gparted live iso in virtualbox and see for yourself
[22:14] <cihhan> bobafett: i tried but i think it wasnt correct entry
[22:14] <a__> TJ-, i.imgur.com/A2IytTA.png
[22:15] <TJ-> a__: that looks good
[22:15] <a__> it basically installs in in my ex home directory and keeps the EFIboot oone
[22:16] <a__> bagsbager, secure mode is enabled, maybe i should try it with it disabled?
[22:16] <efrit> #quit
[22:16] <bagsbager> a__: manually format. 100mb for EFI. 4gb swap. Rest of space formatted ext4 mounted as /.
[22:17] <nicomachus> ah, TJ-, guess that works.
[22:17] <TJ-> nicomachus: I'll investigate it this coming week, post a bug report if there isn't one, and propose a fix
[22:17] <bobafett> @cihhan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan
[22:18] <bagsbager> a__: select something else in that screen and set up partitions yourself.
[22:18] <beepie> a__, don't you feel the "ubuntu" lol
[22:18] <cihhan> bobafett: let me read it, thanks a lot
[22:19] <satmandu> Summarized my wifi issue here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=110105&p=787985#p787985 if anybody has any ideas on how I should resolve this wifi configuration issue.
[22:19] <cihhan> bobafett: btw, i was thinking if something like route entry or iptables entry would have for this problem
[22:21] <bagsbager> a__: ubuntu usually works secure boot. You wouldn't of got to that screen if it needed to be disabled.
[22:22] <bagsbager> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)﻿
[22:22] <a__> bagsbager, i tried doing it manually, as you suggested, and it did not crash this time (why? idk). *crosses fingers* i got my new partitions formatting message this time, let's see..
[22:23] <a__> i didn't choose any swap memory, though. 2 gigs is enough of ram for me
[22:24] <Ben64> a__: kind of low for no swap
[22:24] <Ben64> you can make a swap file somewhere though, doesn't need to be a partition
[22:24] <bagsbager> a__: swap is used for hibernate sometimes standby mode. They recommend ram memory size. Maximum 4 gb
[22:26] <a__> bagsbager, hmm, makes sense. maybe i will resize my / partition at some point and get some swap
[22:26] <bagsbager> a__: it could get complicated to set it up later.
[22:27] <Ben64> easy to make a swap file anytime though
[22:27] <bagsbager> a__: you ever edit FSTAB files
[22:28] <a__> bagsbager, never tried
[22:29] <Ben64> a__: just pop back in here if you want to add swap file or swap partition and someone can help you out
[22:29] <bagsbager> a__: you'll learn if you want to add swap later.
[22:29] <a__> ok, guys. thank you all. i am optimistic it will get installed successfully this time :)
[22:36] <bobafett> @cihhan according to ubuntu unleased book a router or switch can be used (but we know that), so assuming you need to enable a routing protocol, I found this on google, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1935303
[22:37] <TJ-> cihhan: If each Ethernet port has a static ip address assigned an associated route for that sub-net should be added to the main routing table automatically: "ip route show"
[22:41] <rhalff> how do I properly mount and umount lvm partitions? I've added them to /etc/fstab, which boots fine, but a new boot will constantly do a file check, I assume the partitions are not cleanly unmounted during reboot.
[22:42] <bubbasaures> rhalff, Show the channel your fstab in a pastebin
[22:43] <nicomachus> rhaliff: https://evilshit.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/how-to-mount-luks-encrypted-partitions-manually/
[22:44] <nicomachus> rhaliff: another, clearer explanation here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[22:44] <rhalff> nicomachus, I use no encrypted, keeps my internet stable :p
[22:44] <rhalff> ion..
[22:45]  * nicomachus went straight to lvm2 and assumed crypt_luks... whoops
[22:47] <rhalff> bubbasaures, http://pastebin.com/rFiYJeGD
[22:47] <cihhan> TJ-, Hi! This is what I have right now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11869550/
[22:48] <TJ-> rhalff: You need to correct the fstab; for all entries except the root file-system on /, the last two numbers should be "0 2" not "0 1"
[22:48] <cihhan> TJ-: So, what I really want to do is that 10.1.x.x and 10.3.x.x and so on should be able to communicate with each other
[22:48] <rhalff> TJ-, ok... :)
[22:49] <a__> bagsbager, it booted normally :)
[22:49] <TJ-> cihhan: I see no problem there *provided* that the hosts on the other end of those brX links have 10.X.0.1 set as their gateway for 10.Y.0.0/16
[22:51] <cihhan> TJ-: Please correct me if I understand correctly. Currently, for the systems connected to 10.1.x.x shows 10.1.0.1 as their gateway
[22:51]  * rhalff *reboots*
[22:51] <TJ-> cihhan: if they have 10.1.0.1 as their default gateway then all their traffic will be routed to 10.1.0.1
[22:52] <arseny> there is a problem with using usb some linux live frequently in my laptop?
[22:53] <cihhan> TJ-: So if i am pinging 10.6.0.10 from 10.1.0.10, as an example, what should I do for them to be able to work?
[22:55] <TJ-> cihhan: On 10.1.0.10 there must be a route that covers 10.6.0.10 via 10.1.0.1 ... and on 10.6.0.10 there must be a route that covers 10.1.0.10 via 10.6.0.1
[22:55] <TJ-> cihhan: that is, the outbound and return routes
[22:56] <cihhan> TJ-: hmmm. I see your point. I was wondering if this can be done from the router side. Actually, it was originally configured this way. But it seems that after the reboot of the system the configuraiton is lost. So I m trying to figure it out how to do it from the router side :(
[22:57] <TJ-> cihhan: The router can't do anything if the hosts don't know to route packets to it
[22:58] <TJ-> cihhan: Are all the hosts configured statically, or by DHCP? If the router is doing DHCP then you can configure it to hand out the correct gateway to the hosts
[22:58] <cihhan> TJ-: It has DHCP server but also static IP is used too
[23:00] <TJ-> cihhan: You could use  DHCP static leases (keyed to MACs) to make sure the correct gateway/routes are supplied to the clients
[23:01] <cihhan> TJ-: Thanks TJ-, let me check that one too.
[23:06] <codepython777> what laptop do ubuntu developers use for working / developing ubuntu - does anyone here know?
[23:07] <k1l> that differs a lot.
[23:08] <beepie> np
[23:09] <teward> codepython777: an extremely wide variety, as I understand it
[23:09] <teward> codepython777: there's no one laptop/hardware config
[23:10] <codepython777> teward: I'm not sure it makes sense to use OSX to develop ubuntu software :) - at least not to me.
[23:10] <codepython777> teward: where do the devs hang out?
[23:11] <teward> codepython777: you asked about the laptop - not about the OS :P  But even that varies widely (some may use latest Ubuntu, some may be on older releases, some may be on the LTS)
[23:11] <OerHeks> codepython777, i know lots of canonical guys use macbooks :-D
[23:11] <teward> codepython777: different places, but your question doesn't fit the general support category of questions - why exactly do you ask what laptops developers use/etc?
[23:11] <teward> codepython777: and i know a few people who use MacBook Pro's as their devel systems.  I use a mix of four or five systems depending on the task/goal
[23:12] <teward> (some virtual)
[23:12] <teward> codepython777: so your question is far too broad, and can't really be answered within an answerable scope
[23:12] <codepython777> teward: 'm looking for a new laptop. Mostly work with Ubuntu.
[23:13] <teward> codepython777: pretty much all laptops work.  Dells tend to be 'Ubuntu Ready' in a sense, provided you pull the broadcom wifi drivers down from the repos via wired connectivity
[23:13] <teward> !crosspost > codepython777
[23:13] <codepython777> teward: what do you use?
[23:13] <rainbowwarrior> hi , i am running Ubuntu 15.04 and when i try and install anything via the ubuntu software centre it keeps saying bad package and does not matter what I choose, I am trying to install teamviewer and skype, can someone help please ?
[23:14] <codepython777> teward: btw, the macbook pro has tons of ubuntu problems - its some work to install ubuntu on them. I had to move to 15.04
[23:14] <teward> codepython777: a mix of systems, as i siad, depends on my needs at the time.  my primary's a dell inspiron 15r, but was a "special edition" model
[23:14] <teward> codepython777: i never said it didn't have problems - i just said it could be used
[23:14] <teward> codepython777: lets not drag into other topics of conversation for now thanks
[23:15] <codepython777> teward: thanks for the information. I'll probably get a dell.
[23:15] <teward> codepython777: i also have a netbook running Ubuntu (old HP), a RPi with Ubuntu, and multiple virtual desktops on a VM server.
[23:16] <codepython777> teward: I'm running it in VMs and a macbook pro. Need a bare metal ubuntu laptop. Probably try the dell xps series.
[23:17] <crapo> hello
[23:19] <crapo> slt
[23:20] <TheHodge> hey folks, anyone got any experience with vnstat, I've got it installed and the damon running but the stats don't seem to be updating and it's been half an hour?
[23:21] <khalil> hello, i'm kind of new to IRC, does anybody know how to cloak/hide their hostnames?
[23:21] <nicomachus> khalil: you might have better luck in #freenode
[23:21] <k1l> khalil: make an account on freenode and ask the staff to get a cloak
[23:22] <khalil> oh, alright, thank you for the help
[23:22] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: Do you have the "partner" repository enabled in Software Sources ?
[23:24] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om, let me check
[23:27] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om, they were off, just turned them on
[23:28] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' and try and install now .
[23:30] <ssimon> buntu
[23:30] <ssimon> ubuntu
[23:30] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:31] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om, it still says they bad packages :(
[23:32] <OerHeks> rainbowwarrior, sure about 'bad packages' ? if i install teamviewer, softwarecenter complains about not able to verify, and if i trust the package...
[23:33] <rainbowwarrior> OerHeks, yes
[23:33] <OerHeks> it is just a warning, as it does not come from our repos
[23:33] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: Show in a pastbin the results : 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install skype ' see if I can spot the problem .
[23:33] <ssimon> In synoptic: says cach open-report
[23:34] <ssimon> asks to run 'dpkg-config-a'
[23:35] <ssimon> and nothing happened
[23:35] <OerHeks> if dpkg does not give an error, it is oke
[23:36] <skinux> Anyone know of a top panel applet that will show me memory usages for disk, RAM, SWAP, etc.?
[23:36] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om :- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11869785/
[23:37] <a__> trying to run steam and getting this message http://i.imgur.com/qum5z5e.png
[23:37] <droid909> guys where to get free ssl cert for testing https
[23:37] <droid909> not self signed
[23:38] <ssimon> Anyone know about synoptics messages here?
[23:38] <teward> droid909: self-signed.  or startssl free tier if you own a TLD
[23:38] <teward> droid909: self-signed is usually the way to go though, ignoring any of the self-signed errors
[23:38] <teward> at least for testing
[23:39] <a__> never mind, i sudo apt-got the files
[23:39] <droid909> teward: i need to test with facebook api, it requires standart sll cert
[23:39] <droid909> ssl
[23:40] <droid909> TLD?
[23:40] <teward> droid909: i assume you didn't read my second sentence on my first message.
[23:40] <OerHeks> !info indicator-multiload
[23:40] <teward> droid909: Top Level Domain.  I.E. something.net or such
[23:40] <OerHeks> skinux, ^^
[23:40] <teward> droid909: since the cert is issued with the domain and the subdomain (domain.com and sub.domain.com) you need to control whatever domain.com becomes (even if it too is sub.domain.com and your cert is being sub.sub.domain.com)
[23:41] <droid909> teward: i do have TLD but it wasn't bought from startssl
[23:41] <teward> droid909: doesn't matter
[23:41] <droid909> cool
[23:41] <teward> droid909: you only need to verify site ownership
[23:41] <droid909> teward: thanks, will try
[23:41] <teward> droid909: it explains that.
[23:41] <codepython777> is there a tool to keep multiple ubuntu servers synced and updated remotely? I currently use ssh and apt-get update/upgrade manually
[23:42] <teward> codepython777: usually that's landscape or puppet or something
[23:42] <OerHeks> codepython777, landscape
[23:42] <teward> OerHeks: do you know if the free personal-run landscape can work with remote offsite servers?
[23:42] <TJ-> codepython777: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[23:42] <teward> OerHeks: or does that need the Ubuntu Advantage stuff
[23:42] <OerHeks> teward, no, not free, you can try out for 1 month for free
[23:42] <ssimon> 0-AD
[23:42] <teward> OerHeks: i meant the standalone one
[23:43] <teward> OerHeks: NOT the trial
[23:43] <teward> (i.e. NOT the cloud one run by Canonical)
[23:43] <OerHeks> teward, good question, not sure about that
[23:43] <codepython777> TJ-: Thanks
[23:44] <codepython777> landscape can run without the cloud?
[23:44] <teward> OerHeks: indeed, I have 6 VPSes i'd like to manage via Standalone (Personal Install) Landscape, stuff can get past the firewall, but then says 'can't connect'.  *shrugs*
[23:44] <OerHeks> "Landscape Dedicated Server." It is free for up to 10 physical machines and 10 more virtual machines for a total of 20
[23:44] <teward> ^ that
[23:45] <teward> OerHeks: is that 'supported' by anyone so i can field a question or two, or is that just here, -server, and standard support mediums
[23:45] <ssimon> I need to show a 0-AD to use my Debian packages
[23:45] <OerHeks> teward, found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[23:46] <OerHeks> ssimon, wrong channel, join #debian .. this is ubuntu support.
[23:46] <teward> OerHeks: not what i was looking for but htanks
[23:46] <SJr> Here is a weird question, anyone ever heard of lspci causing a system lock up/
[23:46] <SJr> It seems that after I run lspci 3 or 4 seconds afterwards it locks up.
[23:46] <ssimon> It's  a dvf <Debian bug> issue
[23:47] <teward> OerHeks: i'm having an issue getting things to reg inside the Landscape Dedicated Server, hence is that question.
[23:47] <teward> OerHeks: but i guess i'll just keep beating it with a stick in the interim
[23:47] <SJr> ssimon is that for me?
[23:47] <teward> SJr: there's multiple chats going on at once - you should likely only be concerned about messages that have your name tagged at the beginning, like this one
[23:47] <teward> ssimon: I assume you were pointing that at OerHeks
[23:48] <OerHeks> teward, i guess you know about https://help.landscape.canonical.com/?action=show&redirect=LDS
[23:48] <codepython777> OerHeks: https://landscape.canonical.com - so this only allows 10 machines, and not 10+10 ?
[23:48] <droid909> teward: do you also have  an error trying to access https://auth.startssl.com/
[23:48] <teward> OerHeks: now I do, thanks.
[23:48] <OerHeks> codepython777, not sure how they count that, i read 10 dedicated and 10 virtual.
[23:49] <ssimon> It's synoptics -says cach open:report
[23:49] <droid909> guys  do you also have  an error trying to access https://auth.startssl.com/
[23:49] <codepython777> OerHeks: whats the price for moving from 10 to 25 physical machines?
[23:49] <droid909> am i need to install some sort of cert in my browser?
[23:50] <OerHeks> to be sure, join #ubuntu-solutions
[23:50] <SJr> droid909, no but what browser are you using droid909
[23:50] <TJ-> droid909: I see "ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert"
[23:50] <teward> SJr: i know what he's talking about
[23:50] <droid909> SJr: i tried chrome and firefox
[23:51] <teward> droid909: you have to sign up first
[23:51] <droid909> teward: i did
[23:51] <teward> droid909: they then give you an SSL cert to ID you
[23:51] <teward> droid909: that you then import into your browser to gain access
[23:51] <droid909> ohh
[23:51] <droid909> interesting
[23:51] <OerHeks> codepython777, pricing @ http://www.ubuntu.com/management/ubuntu-advantage
[23:51] <teward> if you messed up that step then you'll have to reach out to StartSSL - there's nothing we can really do from our side to fix that
[23:51] <ssimon> ubuntu studio is my work computer-I am a musician, I write Christian songs
[23:51] <redmage> I have Windows 7 installed on this computer alongside Ubuntu. The Windows 10 upgrade is coming out soon and I am wondering how upgrading Windows and GRUB is going to work. Am I going to have to reinstall GRUB after the Windows 10 upgrade?
[23:51] <skinux> Where is the file to tell the system to use more SWAP?
[23:52] <droid909> teward: this is the first time i see such authorisation :D
[23:52] <droid909> teward: on a web site
[23:52] <OerHeks> redmage, i think so yes, windows10 will ruin your mbr, but is easy to fox after install, see !grub
[23:52] <OerHeks> !grub
[23:52] <teward> droid909: it's not uncommon actually.  for most end users it's not really a big deal.  for SSL certs, power users, developer users, network security sensitive sites, etc. it's more and more common
[23:53] <OerHeks> fox-fix*
[23:53] <codepython777> OerHeks: dont see landscape pricing there
[23:53] <teward> codepython777: it's included in the Ubuntu Advantage
[23:53] <teward> $610.86 for a 5-pack for Standard Desktop Ubuntu Advantage - so you'd need five of those
[23:53] <teward> codepython777: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=667
[23:53] <redmage> Thank you, OerHeks.
[23:53] <TJ-> droid909: I think it is because the startssl server is offering TLSv1/SSLv3 and they are not supported by recent browsers due to bugs
[23:53] <OerHeks> codepython777, press 'buy now' and then 'advantage server"
[23:54] <teward> codepython777: also see http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41 <--
[23:54] <ssimon> ubuntu seems, in my case, Linox, a code name for dvf 2   ssl link problem?
[23:54] <teward> oh right, desktop vs. server xD
[23:54] <teward> codepython777: $320 per server per year.  Or $816 per server per 3 years (so you'd need 25 licenses).  http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=657
[23:55] <codepython777> teward: sounds a bit steep after the 10 for free version :)
[23:55] <ssimon> dvf1 verses dvf2 maybe<ssl style...     suggestions?
[23:56] <teward> codepython777: well, you should likely contact Canonical.  The licenses there in Ubuntu Advantage will take you onto their cloud landscape, iirc.
[23:56] <OerHeks> codepython777, to be sure about pricing, contact them, or try #ubuntu-solutions ?
[23:56] <teward> codepython777: you should contact them, or try #ubuntu-solutions, the channel OerHeks suggested
[23:56] <redmage> Oh, is there anyway to make the launcher in Ubuntu 14.04 minimize? I don't have much screen real estate so it would be handy if I could shrink that somehow.
[23:57] <teward> redmage: under the display options
[23:57] <ssimon> having tons of trouble -#ubuntu-solutions, thanks
[23:57] <teward> redmage: assuming you mean the bar on the left.
[23:57] <teward> ssimon: we weren't talking to you
[23:57] <redmage> teward, I do.
[23:57] <teward> ssimon: you need patience
[23:57] <teward> redmage: System Settings > Behavior > AUtohide the Launcher
[23:58] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak
[23:58] <OerHeks> uhhh it does
[23:58] <redmage> teward, I'm in System Settings but I don't see Behavior.
[23:58] <teward> redmage: oop my bad, i forgot - appearance
[23:58] <teward> redmage: System Settings > Appearance > Behavior Tab > ...
[23:58] <redmage> Yeah, that worked! Thanks teward!
[23:59] <teward> OerHeks: might be a different name
[23:59] <teward> !find unity-tweak
[23:59] <OerHeks> i forget tool
[23:59] <OerHeks> :-D