[02:03] <Rrjj> Should I install the Ubuntu restricted extras? or the Xubuntu?
[02:10] <daykiller> I would install xubuntu . I works great
[02:12] <Rrjj> Thanks.
[02:12] <Rrjj> daykiller
[02:12] <Rrjj> Do you know how to fix the splash screen problem?
[02:13] <Rrjj> After I installed NVIDIA driver the flash screen was gone and was replaced by ugly low resolution nvidia logo
[02:59] <allen> good evening anyone familiar with stopping a system from cpu throttling
[03:16] <holstein> allen: yes.. i have disabled it, software wise, or, made shortcuts in ubuntu to set it the CPU throttling manually, and also, implemented the "easier" tray icons, in the past, when possible... also, simply disabled in the bios..
[03:17] <allen> dude are you willing to help me out, i'm stuck lol
[03:17] <allen> i don't even care if i kill it completely just not drop to 800mhz
[03:17] <holstein> allen: its an open channel. you just ask, and a volunteer may assist
[03:17] <holstein> it would be arguably easy to just try turning it off in the bios..
[03:18] <allen> i have tried all the stuff i can find in forums so i may have done more harm than good, i don't see anything in my bios to stop it either, this is a laptop.
[03:18] <holstein> sometimes, if the hardware doesnt support linux well, it can be challenging
[03:18] <holstein> when you say "i tried all the stuff", you'll have to say what specificaly you have tried, and how, and what happened. etc
[03:19] <holstein> the second answer here typically works for me with most hardware
[03:19] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/523640/how-i-can-disable-cpu-frequency-scaling-and-set-the-system-to-performance
[03:19] <allen> where to begin, well i've installed cpufrequtils and disabled the ondemand but to no avail.
[03:19] <holstein> allen: what do you, to no avail?
[03:20] <holstein> what specifically have you entered? and where? and what are the error messages?
[03:20] <holstein> you can use pastebins.
[03:20] <holstein> !paste
[03:20] <holstein> to share the *exact* text
[03:20] <holstein> otherwise, sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[03:20] <allen> never had an error message
[03:20] <holstein> sudo nano /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[03:20] <holstein> add this to it "GOVERNOR="performance"
[03:21] <holstein> sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable
[03:21] <holstein> this will check the status. or should.. cpufreq-info
[03:22] <allen> ok when using cpufreq-set do i have to put the Ghz after the speed i want, or do just put say 2.0?
[03:23] <allen> my governor is set to performance,  and info states "The governor "performance" may decide which speed to use within this range. "
[03:24] <allen> but it keeps randomly dropping down to 800mhz,
[03:24] <holstein> allen: randomly?
[03:24] <holstein> so, it *actually* gets set? and then, later, you notice its not anymore?
[03:24] <allen> yep, i'm playing a game, which i would assume would be putting a load on the cpu and it will just drop down to 800mhz.
[03:24] <holstein> so, you *can* set it? and confirm? with cpufreq-info
[03:25] <allen> i have the frequency tool running on the taskbar to watch it
[03:25] <holstein> allen: well, i think you are assuming "a game" is able to report, as well
[03:25] <allen> right now cpufreq-info says its at 2.70
[03:25] <holstein> which, is what you want, correct?
[03:25] <holstein> anyways, you can set the low end limits, if you want.. i did that with an older eeepc
[03:26] <allen> correct, so you think when i see the monitor drop i should run the info command to see if its showing the same thing ?
[03:26] <holstein> allen: i would confirm that its actually changing, in some way
[03:27] <Rrjj> Is there any software that works like windows's restore point? Because I want to try out some problem fixes and see if it will work or not.
[03:27] <allen> how do i set the low end limits, its cpufreq -d 2.0 for example, or do i have to put 2.0Ghz.
[03:28] <holstein> Rrjj: sure.. you can simply image.. thats actually safer/better (arguably) than a restore point.. i say, always assume the hard drive is about to fail, since, it will, at some point.. then, you are prepared for anything
[03:28] <holstein> allen: i can link you the guides, if i can find them, that i used on that eeepc..  not sure if they are current.. but, on well supported intel hardware, it literally never failed to work
[03:28] <allen> ok thanks for that
[03:29] <allen> and this is an intel i7 so hopefully it will work :)
[03:30] <holstein> allen: what is failing? is it *only* when running that certain game?
[03:30] <allen> my problem is i know enough about linux to be dangerous lol
[03:30] <holstein> what game? does it have root access? and is it resetting the governor?
[03:31] <allen> i have tried two games, skyrama a little flash based browser based game, and Diablo 3. it does it under both
[03:31] <allen> but even just browsing fb the frequency will drop, i assume that is because there isn't much load to run a browser ?
[03:31] <Rrjj> holstein: What I mean is I want to try out some terminal commands before installing the right commands.
[03:32] <holstein> allen: it should stay where you put it
[03:32] <allen> where i put what ?
[03:32] <holstein> Rrjj: right, and what i mean, is, with an image, you can do that, and also, revert from *total* failure. otherwise, sounds like you want a "test" environment. you can try from the live iso, or a VM..
[03:33] <holstein> allen: the governor.. if you set it to "performance", it shouldnt move
[03:33] <Rrjj> Because I'm having a problem with grub and there are several solutions I've found on the web.
[03:33] <holstein> allen: and, thats what im asking.. *is* that what you set it to?
[03:33] <allen> sorry i understand, yes that is what it is set too
[03:33] <Rrjj> Can xubuntu run VirtualBox?
[03:33] <holstein> Rrjj: yes
[03:34] <Rrjj> Okay. I'll try it now.
[03:37] <holstein> allen: so, *after* the CPU moves, then what is it set to?
[03:38] <holstein> allen: it seems, something in the system, either after a reboot, logout, suspend, or something else for you to determine, the governor is being set to something other than performance
[03:39] <allen> and of course it hasn't dropped while chatting with you :(
[03:40] <holstein> allen: well, just keep in mind, the issue you are having is not actually specific to xubuntu, or xfce.. so, if it happens, and its slow/dead in here, try #ubuntu
[03:41] <holstein> but, i think you'll do "best" on your own with it
[03:41] <holstein> meaning, trying commands and seeing what actually works
[03:41] <holstein> see that you are up to date with upgrades..
[03:41] <allen> ok i'll keep plugging away with it
[03:41] <holstein> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:41] <allen> just frustrating when i can't solve something that seems so simple
[03:42] <holstein> eh.. it happens..
[03:43] <allen> thanks for your time i do appreciate it
[03:43] <holstein> allen: sure.. no worries.. i know, the first few times i tried to deal with that, it was a challenge. and, some hardware cases just dont play well with linux..
[04:20] <AndroidHacker> anyone know of a reverse apt-get build-dep
[04:25] <AndroidHacker> ubottu, you dont know anything about SSL?
[04:25] <AndroidHacker> obviously
[05:51] <allen> holstein you around by chance bud ?
[09:26] <nickmh1> ++
[11:57] <alarangeiras> how good day
[11:57] <alarangeiras> hi
[16:18] <schockley> trying to get samba on 14.04 to share a printer. total fail. I've tried everything: testparm, smbtree does not list the printer. I've tried all the usual links. Totally stumped
[16:19] <schockley> I copied a smb.conf from a 14.04 that successfully shares the same printers. Still no go
[16:19] <schockley> no firewall
[18:56] <redwdc> What's the best prog to display drive space
[18:58] <knome> "best" depends on your needs
[18:59] <knome> i use "df -h" on the terminal, but you might prefer something else
[18:59] <redwdc> basic info like used and free I don't need  anythig alse really
[19:00] <knome> what i pointed out before does that.
[19:00] <m0r0n> Hello. Using the Xfce Power Manager I set my "lid close" setting to suspend. However it's logging off now. How do I find out what is causing this?
[19:01] <redwdc> Thanks knome that's what I wanted
[19:49] <redwdc_> quit
[20:36] <raricactus> Hello, i'm having an issue with xubuntu 15.04 that i hope someone can help me with. i had to do a hard shutdown yesterday cause the laptop i use it on didn't come out of standby mode properly, now i can't get into my computer cause i can't enter my passcode, the cursor isn't on the line, it's stuck at the top left corner
[23:02] <raricactus> anyone here active i have problem with xubuntu and i need help resolving it
[23:12] <Louis__> Hi ! Questions about downloading... I will like to download a browser called Midori.. If I want the latest version and I can choose different linus versions like Ubuntu, Debian, Arch Linux, Fedora etc....
[23:13] <Louis__> which one do I have to choose?? Ubuntu or Debian?
[23:15] <knome> Louis__, ...to get the newest version of midori?
[23:17] <Louis__> Yes the newest midori
[23:18] <FernandoBasso> I notice that all ubuntu flavors have nice font rendering. Does *ubuntu use some especial font stuff?
[23:18] <knome> Louis__, are you *sure* you want to select your distribution based on that?
[23:19] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: I run arch linux, it has generally the most cutting-edge software versions. Still, knome's questions is very relevant to this conversation.
[23:19] <FernandoBasso> Also, always having the latest versions is not always the best.
[23:20] <Louis__> @Knome.. I hav another solution??
[23:20] <knome> arch seems to have 0.5.10, while both ubuntu and debian have 0.4.3; however, there is a PPA for ubuntu that brings in 0.5.10
[23:20] <FernandoBasso> Also, xubuntu non LTS is not that much behind for most of the stuff.
[23:21] <knome> Louis__, you should likely decide on the distribution on broader requirements, not the web browser version
[23:21] <Louis__> @FernandoBasso... I agree.... but the ubuntu software center has the 0.4 version... so not really "new".
[23:22] <knome> Louis__, so which feature from a newer version of midori do you need to be exact?
[23:22] <FernandoBasso> Indeed, I have 0.5.10 here.
[23:22] <FernandoBasso> I was about to ask that.
[23:23] <Louis__> @ knome @FernandoBasso... but let's say   I want the newet stable version...
[23:23] <FernandoBasso> And if there is a ppa, problem solved.
[23:23] <FernandoBasso> Then go for the ppa.
[23:23] <knome> Louis__, why?
[23:23] <knome> Louis__, what does the latest stable version of midori have for you that the current bersion in the repository doesn't?
[23:23] <FernandoBasso> knome: Well, I like to run latest software stuff, even though most of the time I just want that for no practical reason :p
[23:23] <Louis__> because I like to hve the latest versions... the most of time, I really don't have ay issues with them...
[23:24] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: h
[23:24] <FernandoBasso> Oops.
[23:24] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: Then use the PPA.
[23:24] <FernandoBasso> I always used some PPAs when I ran xubuntu.
[23:24] <knome> or install arch (which might or might not be better for you than ubuntu or debian)
[23:25] <Louis__> ok.. le's go for ppa...
[23:25] <knome> Louis__, just remember that you use PPA's at your own risk
[23:25] <knome> FernandoBasso, i understand that, but you also know that running arch comes with this and that maintenance (x)ubuntu doesn't have, and you're likely willing to take that extra burden
[23:26] <Louis__> @knome.. I am a beginner with Linux.. so Arch Linux is too complicated for me at the moment
[23:26] <FernandoBasso> I think arch won't offer advantages. The only advantage (which is also a disadvantage) is that there are newer software versions.
[23:26] <FernandoBasso> knome: You are right!
[23:26] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: After one configures arch, it is no different than any other distro.
[23:26] <FernandoBasso> So, why running arch at all?
[23:26] <FernandoBasso> I run it because I am used to it from a time where I had more time to spare. That is all.
[23:27] <knome> Louis__, there you go; so you really don't want to select the distribution that has the lastest midori version, you want a distribution that is easy to use. that's a completely different question and point of view
[23:28] <FernandoBasso> knome: I don't thin midori's ppa will cause any problems, by the way.
[23:28] <knome> FernandoBasso, i don't "think" either, but i won't/wouldn't promise it doesn't
[23:28] <FernandoBasso> Fair :)
[23:28] <Louis__> @knome... I agree... but I still want to have the latest midori version...  :)
[23:29] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: Go ahead.
[23:29] <Louis__> so If I want to use ppa... do I use these command lines?   sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu trusty main'  $ sudo add-apt-repository 'deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/midori/ppa/ubuntu trusty main'
[23:29] <knome> Louis__, to be honest, i would stick with what version is availble in the repositories, if there is no other reason than "i want the latest" for anything else. that said, feel free to use the PPA if you feel so strongly about it
[23:30] <Louis__> or do I have to write at the end instead ubuntu trusty main.... xubuntu???
[23:31] <knome> no. there is no "xubuntu" repositories, xubuntu uses the same repositories as ubuntu
[23:31] <knome> including PPAs
[23:31] <Louis__> ok
[23:33] <Louis__> thanks
[23:34] <FernandoBasso> Louis__: You are most welcome!
[23:35] <FernandoBasso> (as if I did any help :D )
[23:35] <knome> FernandoBasso, for your question (*drumroll*...) i don't knwo
[23:36] <knome> *know too
[23:42] <FernandoBasso> knome: About the fonts, you mean?
[23:44] <knome> FernandoBasso, yes