[00:02] it has multiple gpilu im plugged into the front. back is probably default [00:02] That would explain it! [00:05] still nothing on back plug. as long as i can ssh im find. [00:06] yes. check "/var/log/dmesg" for clues as to which GPU/head has been selected as the primary [00:06] All my servers are on remote network KVM so I always ensure the heads are connected correctly [00:06] great now to see why ssh isnt working. [00:13] one more question since i made a new account i dont have a home directory would that cause any problems when installing packages? [00:14] Anyone able to assist me with a postfix/dovecot issue? [00:15] Demon_Jester: A home directory is usually created automatically, if you use "adduser" === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:19] hmm maybe i need to restarr [00:19] restart [00:27] I am only able to send e-mails from my domain but I cannot receive any e-mails. === utlemming_away is now known as utlemming === CiPi is now known as cipi === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren [02:20] is there anyone here familiar with Evolution [02:21] erkburgles: isn't that a desktop mail client [02:21] yes [02:21] want to get reminders on desktop from evolution without opening the application? [02:24] werd [05:23] What is the best way to upgrade a production headless server remotely? [05:23] I am planing to upgrade from 10.04 to 14.04, which will be in two steps 10.04 to 12.04 then from 12.04 to 14.04 [05:24] any suggestions? As I tried to upgrade my machine with "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive" but no positive result.. [05:46] neonixcoder: I've never used the -f option before. Ideally you have some sort of management console access, but I've done it just via SSH before. [05:46] Thanks for the reply tonyyarusso [05:47] The problem is I will not have console access as these machines are located remotely and can be accessed via 3G only.. [05:48] 3G only huh? That's a bit special. [05:49] How far is the drive if they don't come back up? [05:49] yes.. [05:50] It depends.. we even have some stuff in middle of Aus desserts which are like 3000km from Sydney :( [05:50] nice [05:51] Which are connected with 3G or just Satlink to connect and remote manage.. [05:51] Furthest I've had to drive for physical access was about 2 hours - kind of a fun day actually. [05:51] yes.. [05:53] Oh, one thing I will say - run the upgrade process inside of screen, so if your SSH connection drops you can reconnect. [05:53] tonyyarusso: Is there any tool before upgrade can we just emulate changes and see if something may go wrong after upgrade? [05:53] Not that I know of - for that depth of check you have to try upgrading an identical test system. [05:54] tonyyarusso: I tried screen, but somehow once the system reboots, it struck up at kernel panic.. [05:55] right now trying in a lab machine before moving to prod.. [05:55] but non getting success.. === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [07:08] Hi Just updated ubuntu to 12.04.5, removed vmware-tools, installed open-vm-tools and random I get INFO: Task blocked for more than 120 sec... [07:09] Re-installed vmware-tools and I have not faced the problem since. [07:09] Is it a known bug with open-vm-tools? Cause I seemed not to finde anything about it. === mld_ is now known as mld === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [10:08] Lurchy: I allways look at this guide for WOL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588 === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === Wiched is now known as Guest99420 === shirgall is now known as Guest24322 === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [15:29] bug 10000 [15:29] bug 10000 in xorg (Debian) "xserver-common: X crashed (signal 7) while scrolling in Mozilla" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10000 [15:35] Ouch === ming is now known as Guest86022 === cipi is now known as CiPi [15:43] Hi all. Newbie here. Simple question. If you use wget to download a tar.gz file because it's not available as a package from the repositories it installs with "python setup.py install" how are you supposed to uninstall it? Not able to find any kidn of uninstall script. [15:43] The program in question is DenyHosts-2.5 (old one I know that is why I wish to remove and install the latest which I think will be installed under different names/directories) [15:44] Stuxnet: If it's available in pip, pip has am uninstall command. [15:44] DenyHosts is in pip. [15:44] Ok [15:47] Thanks a lot lordievader, that worked. :) [15:47] ;) === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren [17:24] hi, would one of the people more familiar with openstack please be able to test neutron-lbaas-agent with haproxy from my PPA so I can publish the haproxy backport, it's for a security update (bug 1473162) [17:24] bug 1473162 in trusty-backports "Please update haproxy trusty backport for USN-2668-1" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473162 [17:24] I just need a simple run test that it still works with the new version on trusty === liam_ is now known as Guest62504 === fusion is now known as Guest99180 [19:11] okay guys, i'm already running Concrete5 on my apache server, BUT UBUNTU APACHE is SO different, I have ZERO clue how to set up another virtual site [19:12] i'm editing sites-enabled/default-ssl.conf is that right? [19:12] roracle: no, you edit sites-available/default-ssl.conf if you're adding a new site to that config. BUt the correct thing to do is make a separate site configuration in sites-available [19:12] make that VirtualHost block, etc. [19:13] then a2ensite TheNewconfig.conf [19:13] okay there's either default or 000 [19:13] (I think( [19:13] roracle: so create a new one? [19:13] well 000 has port 80 for my default port while "default" has some god awful port number [19:15] roracle: you're wanting to create a whole new site that your server can serve? [19:15] i.e. NOT what's already present [19:16] teward: yes [19:16] then don't use the existing configuration files [19:16] at all [19:16] create a brand new one [19:17] put the configuration in that [19:17] a2ensite that new configuration file [19:17] i don't get it... why when Apache is heavily documented that Ubuntu decided to change it all up? [19:17] i don't understand what a2ensite means [19:17] roracle: See https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/httpd.html [19:17] * teward rolls eyes [19:18] yes, i suck at this, sorry i am more inclined to game development, yes it's my fault lol [19:18] a2ensite is a utility script/command [19:18] `man a2ensite` [19:18] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/a2ensite.8.html [19:18] Probably also: man a2enmod [19:18] that as well [19:19] for enabling/disabling Apache modules (such as SSL) [19:19] omg this is nuts [19:19] no it's really not [19:20] it's a different dynamic of thinking than that of a software developer [19:20] i might end up not using ubuntu in the end because i got used to all the documentatino i read on apache, then found out all of it was wrong, and now i'm totally confused on what to do and have to keep reminding myself that i have to look it up since it's not what i learned intiially [19:20] what documentation did you even look a [19:20] t [19:20] you haven't stated which documentation you're using [19:20] apache's doc [19:20] WHICH doc from Apache [19:20] they have about two billion docs [19:20] plus different versions of apache's documentation [19:21] yes, the ones for apache2 httpd, i didn't realize it was that big of a difference [19:21] all the apache docs I'm familiar with discuss directives and options, not configuration layouts [19:21] apparently they have this "httpd.conf" file that should be edited. then i find out in ubuntu, it's allllll split up [19:21] so what did make sense doesn't now [19:21] heh? [19:22] no one has a single httpd.conf unless your using apache from source [19:22] ^ that [19:22] quite literally that [19:22] roracle: The rationale is from Debian; the idea is that if you confine your own site's directives to your own files in the /etc/apache2/*-available/ directories, and use a2{en,dis}{site,mod,conf} tools to create/remove symbolic links in /etc/apache2/*-enabled/ directories, then any changes to the Debian/Ubuntu distributed packages will not over-write change any of your own site's custom settings. [19:22] there's a huge difference between the apache 2.2 that shipped in 12.04 LTS and the 2.4 that shipped in 14.04 LTS, thuogh, is that the source of your confusion? [19:22] sarnold: he's confused about file layouts [19:22] sarnold: i.e. "wtf do i do to add a new site host block" [19:22] he is upset that *insert tutorial here* does not work directly [19:22] ^ that too [19:22] cause it's specific to apache, and not debian/ubuntu [19:22] maybe [19:23] roracle: the ONLY DIFFERENCE between Apache's source documentation for adding a new server block [19:23] and Ubuntu/Debian's handling of it [19:23] is that you put your individual site VirtualHost blocks into a different file [19:23] if you want, ubunt still supports one large httpd.conf if you use it [19:23] okay well what do i TYPE exactly then? [19:23] and use the utility script to symlink it to sites-enabled/somefilenamehere [19:23] it is normally an empty file, but you can fill it up [19:23] roracle: YourTextEditorHere /etc/apache2/sites-available/MySite.conf [19:24] replace YourTextEditorHere with your given text editor [19:24] and MySite.conf with something more descriptive (but keep .conf at the end) [19:24] i'm not here to learn perse, but i learn by DOING and it's like I learned 1+1=2 and now it's like everyone is saying 1+1=3 and it's really a mind messer [19:24] okay [19:24] roracle: If you were to directly edit the configuration files that the apache2 Debian/Ubuntu packages ship then any updates (think security) would require administrator intervention to merge any changes in those config files if they conflict with the site-specific changes [19:24] if you aren't going to listen to me trying to help you right now i'll go back to squishing server bugs [19:24] roracle: Debian/Ubuntu-specific Apache setup is documented in /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz [19:24] (which is actually less painful than end-user support.) [19:24] no teward it's that everyone is saying stuff to me [19:25] roracle: then learn to ignore people. focus on one thing at a time [19:25] roracle: the problem with IRC chat is it's easy to get overwhelmed, so what you need to do is focus [19:25] okay so each site will have a different conf file, and i need a new one made, NOT add a block to existing ones? [19:25] roracle: correct. [19:25] roracle: Correct :) [19:26] roracle: so you can very easily disable one site without having to manually find and remove the configuration directives [19:26] roracle: once you've followed that command, you've got an empty file. Put your configuration directives for the VirtualHost blocks there. [19:26] roracle: and you really should always read README.Debian for packages that have it :) [19:26] okay see the Apache docs had me adding to the file which confused me [19:26] roracle: that's the FromSource method [19:26] roracle: the only difference is we have a different definition of where the site configurations go. It's actually to help improve the friendliness of administration [19:26] yeah, i just never realized each distro was going to be so very different. you don't expect a calculator to rearrange the numbers, ya know? [19:27] yeah i see that now [19:27] roracle: FYI something else that might trip you up later is that in Debian/Ubuntu the executable (running process) name is "apache2" not "httpd" [19:27] well i'm in Ubuntu and it's running as apache2 [19:27] roracle: heh, have you compared a phone versus a calculator lately? :) [19:27] roracle: to continue what i was saying: after you've added the configuration to the MySite.conf or w/e you named it, save the file. Then run `sudo a2ensite MySite.conf` [19:27] okay cool [19:27] brb [19:27] sarnold, my phones no longer even have numbers [19:27] then run `sudo service apache2 reload`. Your site *should* then come up [19:27] provided you have the modules you need enabled [19:28] patdk-wk: hehe :) [19:28] sarnold: even with calculators - the internal coding is widely different in terms of code style, etc. [19:28] including fluff [19:28] are we talking rpn? [19:28] * teward shrugs [19:28] teward: please don't get me down a calculator nostalgia rathole, I've already been down the orbital mechanics rathole today.. [19:28] In Other News: landscape-client should not run on anything with less than 256MB RAM [19:29] okay i made the file, do i need to change perms on it or anything? [19:29] because it doesn't see the file there at all [19:29] but it is [19:29] roracle: ls -al /etc/apache2/sites-available [19:29] did you link it? a2ensite [19:29] I think that is the command :) [19:29] and you need to reload apache [19:29] roracle: did you also run `sudo a2ensite FooBarBaz.conf`, then do `sudo service apache2 reload`, like I said [19:29] okay i just made the file, haven't run a2ensite because when i did it says it's not there, though it is [19:30] and yes i just throw random stuff in for filenames that i don't know what they really are :) [19:30] roracle: is it in /etc/apache2/sites-available [19:30] or in sites-enabled [19:30] roracle: make sure the .conf is there -- the scripts look for that. [19:30] yes sites-enabled [19:30] and it's a conf file [19:30] roracle: don't put it there [19:30] i called it "blog.conf" [19:30] oh? [19:31] roracle: sudo mv /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/blog.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/blog.conf [19:31] it goes in sites-available, not sites-enabled [19:31] then run the `sudo a2ensite blog.conf` and `sudo service apache2 reload` commands [19:31] roracle: the a2ensite and a2dissite scripts are designed such that your config never really leaves sites-available, and is linked into sites-enabled [19:32] specifically that when you reload the configurations with `sudo service apache2 reload` you don't have to remove the config file from disk and move it to somewhere else on disk [19:32] okay [19:32] i just ran it all, now what? [19:32] restared and everything [19:32] and it's not working [19:32] roracle: go to the domain you set in the virtualhost block [19:32] i told it blog.ghostlightgames.com [19:32] and i go there and nothing [19:33] roracle: does that domain point to your site/server's IP address? [19:33] yes [19:33] or it should [19:33] i can get to the main page [19:33] www.ghostlightgames.com [19:33] it's the main page [19:33] % dnsget -t ANY blog.ghostlightgames.com [19:33] dnsget: unable to lookup ANY record for blog.ghostlightgames.com: domain name does not exist [19:33] but i'm trying to add blog.ghostlightgames.com [19:33] roracle: www.ghostlightgames.com probably resolves. You need to add a DNS record for blog.ghostlightgames.com, wherever your dns is done [19:34] like with godaddy? [19:34] or whoever does your DNs [19:34] yeah that's them [19:34] then to there, add another DNS record, this time for blog. not www or @, but blog. [19:34] without the . :) [19:34] then either a CNAME to ghostlightgames.com like your www. site has. Or an A record. [19:34] Correct. [19:35] okay [19:35] patdk-wk: that was sentences though, because some of us actually care enough to type in full sentences :) [19:35] yes, but expecially dns, it can cause breakage [19:35] patdk-wk: that was sentences though, because some of us actually care enough to type in full sentences :) [19:35] but hopefully, that dns editing gui, wouldn't allow a dot in that location [19:35] oops [19:35] but yes [19:36] patdk-wk: indeed. it gets tricky when you run your own DNS servers xD [19:36] then you have to edit the zonefiles direct :P [19:36] so what do i do exactly now i'm logged into godaddy? [19:36] zonefiles? [19:36] dunno, whatever they do [19:36] roracle: i don't use godaddy, you'll need someone else to guide you with godaddy dns, but i think they have instructions around [19:37] https://www.godaddy.com/help/managing-dns-for-your-domain-names-680 [19:37] roracle: ^ [19:38] roracle: HOst = blog [19:38] Record Type = CNAME [19:38] eh? [19:38] okay [19:38] Points To = ghostlightgames.com [19:38] save changes [19:38] then wait [19:39] leave TTL alone [19:39] sarnold: who do i complain about memory usage of landscape-client to? [19:39] Canonical? [19:39] teward: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape-client "Report a bug" [19:40] sarnold: not sure if it's a bug [19:40] moreso a question of min-specs-for-use [19:40] not for LDS (the server side), but the client [19:40] teward: thuogh "run in less than 256 megs ram" might be outright impossible, the thing's writtn in python, right? :) [19:40] sarnold: no clue, but it got OOM killed then the server went and flopped on me on the VPS [19:40] host [19:40] gah, i hate keyboards sometimes [19:40] where would it "point to" exactly? www says it points to "@" but should blog also point to "@"? [19:40] roracle: use @ [19:41] roracle: that's a shortcut for what I said your Points To is [19:41] okay and should i wait or should it be automatic? [19:41] roracle: hit "save changes" then give it a few minutes [19:41] and then i'll check and see if Google's picked it up yet [19:41] if not, you may have to wait up to 2 days [19:42] okay [19:42] google specifically has a button to let you say "ignore the TTL I've set, please refresh your cache" [19:42] :P [19:42] i know when i first signed up it worked immediately to the main site [19:42] roracle: on your computer, type this in: `host blog.ghostlightgames.com` [19:42] without the ` [19:42] does it return anything? [19:42] on the server? [19:43] yeah it works [19:43] no i meant your computer [19:43] not the server [19:43] oh [19:43] well my system here i'm on is a windows gaming laptop [19:43] same difference [19:43] i think [19:43] server is over on desk [19:43] or nslookup [19:43] i forget [19:43] * teward turns to his windows computer [19:44] roracle: open command prompt. nslookup - [19:44] yeah it gives output [19:44] roracle: then type this: set querytype=CNAME [19:44] roracle: then type blog.ghostlightgames.com [19:45] roracle: does it return some info like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874021/ [19:45] or at least saying the domain exists [19:45] roracle: i get to a WP install page [19:45] install WP and remove your install files soon [19:45] before a malicious threat actor nukes your WP [19:46] that link is exactly what my linux output was [19:46] roracle: then you're all set - go to your site and set up wordpress [19:46] fast [19:46] before a malicious person does that for you xD [19:47] nice [19:49] now will this allow other users to make a name/pw and access it? [19:49] i know it's not your realm but i figured i'd ask [19:49] roracle: that's a wordpress issue [19:49] you have to configure it first [19:49] roracle: depending if you enable it or not users may be able to register or not [19:49] mine, i disabled registrations on (see dark-net.net [19:50] i don't see a register button though [19:50] okay, i'll have to connect via my phone tethering (i use a router to the server, it doesn't work proeprly going to the domain while i'm on the same network as the server) [19:54] roracle: your wordpress questions would be better suited for #wordpress though [20:06] Anyone have any recommendations for an inexpensive temperature monitoring device that integrates well with nagios? Ideally I'd like something that has support for a few remote sensors [20:07] Everything I've found so far is either major overkill, or isn't really quite enough. Having a hard time finding "jsut right". [20:08] ipmi works well [20:10] true, and I have some quick and dirty scripts that watch that for the internal server temps, but I'd like to know ambient in a couple places in the room, as well as the supply temp from the air handler [20:10] So I can catch things earlier [20:15] In typical IRC fashion, as soon as I asked my question I hit upon something that looks liek a good solution: http://www.itwatchdogs.com/climate-monitor-watchdog-100-p67.html [20:17] qhartman: hate to say an arduino, but... [20:17] probably nothing 'inexpensive' if you want it to report back [20:18] (we have three arduinos at different spots in a server room to monitor temps...) [20:18] yeah, I'd be happy to roll my own if I weren't spread so thin already, but as it is, paying a bit for something that works OOB is worth it. [20:19] teward, I'd be glad to learn more about your setups though if you have references you could point me to. [20:19] qhartman: i didn't set them up, sorry [20:19] i know they're in the room, I don't know who built em up or configured em [20:20] womp womp. Thanks though [20:21] They're quite a few USB temperature sensors that present on a ttyUSB* interface [20:21] s/They're/There are/ [20:23] Instead of the optional temp/humidity sensors for my Server Technology CDUs I used this: http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/th1.shtml [20:24] Neat. Though, at $90 each, it's nearly the cost of the stand-alone unit I linked above with the number of locations I want to monitor. [20:25] $430 vs $360 [20:25] Yeah... there are multi-channel alternatives, but I only need to monitor 2 cabinets [20:26] right [20:26] thanks for the suggestion though [20:26] good device to know about [20:26] I've long wanted a reason to try out ibutton / 1-wire devices [20:27] that would be fun [20:28] qhartman: This is another I found after I'd bought, and integrates woth nagios: http://www.finnie.org/2010/03/07/external-temperature-monitoring-with-linux/ [20:29] cool, thanks === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === rylinaux is now known as rxc