=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === mibofra is now known as Guest38831 === duflu_ is now known as duflu === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:52] how am i able to set static ip on my arale? i tried editing the network profile in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections but changes have not been applied.... [07:00] good morning [07:29] how can i sign a static ip to my arale? i tried editing the network profile in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections but changes were not applied.... [07:30] you need to make network manager reload the config ... there is an nmcli command for that === zyga_ is now known as zyga [08:27] Laney, morning, the packages in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ww are not built for arm, is it possible to enable arm builds in that PPA? [08:30] hello, I just figured that my Market and Update no longer works, any idea? [08:31] can I run ubuntu-touch on my "htc one x endeavoru" almost stable? [08:35] hi abeato, I guess so [08:35] ok, I see... state of things..https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/endeavoru [08:35] but you can test (at least the build) on i386 [08:35] so I think NO.. :-( [08:36] Laney, well, I can build, but not test :) [08:37] abeato: have you got it building yet? i.e. is this urgent? [08:38] Laney, not yet, so not extremely urget [08:38] *urgent [08:38] but would be nice to get it built for arm too [08:39] yes [08:39] I'll file a question [08:39] vs. pinging someone [08:40] Laney, ok, thanks [08:51] My Ubuntu Market is empty, why? [08:51] I can't find any solution )( [08:51] =( [08:57] VincentInPC: which device? [09:00] Aquaris E4.5 [09:00] VincentInPC: are you connected to the web? Open a browser and navigate to ubuntu.com [09:01] yes I can use any other app (twitter e.g) [09:01] VincentInPC: have you modified the system at all, made it writeable etc? [09:02] yes :) I've sync my calendar and address book [09:02] so I used a command to mount /dev/loop0 [09:03] VincentInPC: is that from own cloud or something? [09:03] yes absolutly [09:03] I've wrote a tutorial in french (but you should be able to read the comman lines) http://influence-pc.fr/03-07-2015-synchroniser-ses-contacts-et-calendrier-dubuntu-phone-via-owncloud-cosy-cloud === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:08] davmor2: is it a known problem? [09:08] VincentInPC: I don't think there is anything there that would entirely kill the store, you maybe best off having a word with dobey later today [09:09] VincentInPC: he is in an american timezone so won't be on till this afternoon [09:09] thank you davmor2 =) [09:10] davmor2: could you tell dobey to contact me through my contact form in case I'm away/disconnected? http://influence-pc.fr/contact [09:11] I'm not familiar with IRC [09:13] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Embrace Your Geekness Day! 😃 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland === Guest38831 is now known as mibofra [12:09] dbarth, mardy... seeing a weird issue on r58/arale [12:09] want to install an app, not logged into u1 account, going to accounts, adding the account, then being prompted for 2fa, added, account shows in list [12:10] then back to store, attempting to install, "not logged in to u1", and see.. the account disappeared [12:11] someone else had issues above with the store today [12:12] olli: hi [12:12] olli: do you have somethign in syslog? [12:13] olli: or in, unity8/scopes logs that would look suspicious [12:15] dbarth, mom, got issues getting onto the device [12:16] .oO(where is the terminal app when you need it;) [12:16] haha [12:16] som eproject manager asked for its removal once :P [12:17] we need push install from the store [12:18] heh, you just need to turn ssh on and have your key on the device [12:18] (especially on arale with its awful USB ) [12:18] ogra_: especially on arale [12:18] yeah [12:18] ogra_, that'd require to know your ip [12:19] hm, I suppose it'd work if I am not on wifi though [12:19] true ... now *that* should be shown in system-settings somewhere [12:19] olli: can you reproduce 100%? [12:19] dbarth, I could [12:19] but... as you see ... flaky device [12:19] i know [12:19] let me try to get on it and dig through logs [12:21] olli: ip address on wifi is easy to find, enter system settings, wifi, tap on the arrow box of the connection, not sure about 3g though [12:22] davmor2 to the rescue [12:22] thx [12:26] olli: in some cases, when the U1 libraries detect an error on the account, they just silently remove the account [12:26] * ogra_ wonders if the new 2fa policy might actually break phone usage for all canonicalers [12:26] olli: dobey should know better when this can happen, and how to debug it [12:27] ogra_, same suspicion here [12:27] beuno, ^ [12:28] hmm, then that should be reproducible on all phones [12:28] perhaps only with new acocunts ? [12:28] and that could be that infamous problem with the SF integration at the end of the signup process [12:29] i could imagine as long as the device token is valid you wont run into issues ... [12:29] i just removed my u1 account; wish me luck [12:29] only when re-authing the account or newly creating one on the phone [12:29] (but i'm only speculating wildly ) [12:30] hmm, no; i was already with 2fa for a long time [12:30] allowing to uninstall an app while not being logged into U1 also seems like an interesting approach [12:31] well, at least i can re-create an u1 account on mako/r249 [12:33] dbarth: olli dobey reproduced on my ota4 dogfood phone that has lots of apps installed from before the change but now I get kicked each time I try and install something new, the only change is the 2fa [12:34] davmor2, kicked as in not being able to add a u1 account? [12:35] olli, ogra_, why would it break? the phone supports 2fa [12:35] beuno, with a fixed device token, right ? [12:35] olli: as in I tap on install, I'm told my account is bad, tap on sign in, go back to install the app and the app is takes me back to there is a problem with your account [12:35] ogra_, what's a fixed device token? [12:36] beuno, because all of SSO was changed to alway require 2fa for canonicalers ... [12:36] beuno, fact is it doesn't work for me and davmor2 [12:36] beuno, i thought there is a token on the device that doesnt change for a while [12:36] beuno, trying to figure out why [12:36] olli, as in, it stopped working? [12:36] the token might have gotten invalidated today as part of the password resets [12:36] beuno: as in I can't install anything it keeps removing my account [12:37] the device should cope with invalid oauth tokens, I filed a bug a year ago and it's marked as fixed [12:37] beuno, I deleted an app, added a U1 account (saw it pop up on list), then trying to reinstall app, store tells me there is no u1 accoutn, and la voila, accounts doesn't show the account anymore [12:37] oh [12:37] hm [12:37] just install the deb [12:37] * ogra_ hides [12:38] * olli snaps at ogra [12:38] beuno: yes it tells me there is a problem with my account, removes the old one and asks me to sign in again, hence the loop [12:38] davmor2, so we need someone to debug that on the client, let us know what the error is [12:38] nothing I can think of in our changes should cause this [12:38] davmor2, aren't you on vacation (warning, favor to file bug is coming along) [12:39] beuno, it'd have shown in your testing right ;) [12:39] olli: no I'm in but lunch is called I can deal with it after that [12:39] olli, well, 2fa has been on for a week now [12:39] * olli can't even grasp how to test such a roll out [12:39] davmor2, thx [12:39] olli, we make the changes, point phones against staging first [12:39] olli: but only if you spell favour correctly for ever more :P [12:39] davmor2, I can't get onot the device, otherwise I'd file myself [12:39] perform basic operations [12:39] deploy to prod [12:39] olli, are you sure your account still works at all ? [12:40] * olli checks employment status [12:40] might have fallen under the new password policy [12:40] beuno: I'll give you a ping after lunch to see what you need [12:41] ogra_, logging out & into one.u.c works just fine [12:41] maybe the new password length is being enforced and the client can't deal with it [12:41] ah [12:41] there goes that [12:41] k [12:41] sounds plausible [12:42] but, considering that I can log in in the browser just fine I don't think that's the issue, is it? [12:42] no [12:42] if it was a pw lenght issue or some such the browser would have asked you to re-new it [12:43] right [12:43] just as a piece of info, my u1 account auth was invalidated (which the updates panel doesn't deal with btw) but trying to install something from the store prompted me for email/password/2fa and that worked, I managed to install mastermind and update some clicks [12:43] olli, ogra_, we are seeing tracebacks from prod due to slow network [12:43] that might be the issue as well [12:43] ah [12:44] beuno, in general or on my account? [12:44] olli, in general [12:44] seb128, that is good to know! [12:44] https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=82894 [12:44] i obviously dont have any issues with my existing account on either of my phones [12:45] alrighty, /me calls in davmor2's favour to add some more color to the issue [12:45] * ogra_ just installed something, worked just fine [12:45] oki [12:45] er [12:45] https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=82850 [12:45] is the RT [12:47] dbarth, it'd be good to see some client logs [12:47] so we can understand what the client sees [12:47] why it's in a loop [12:48] seb128, hey, I have a flickable mr [1]. Currently running tests, but wanna take a look? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1470782/+merge/264551 [12:48] jgdx, hey, sure [12:49] olli: i'm still not on r53, but you can enable some debug logs for OA so we can see what goes wrong [12:49] beuno, ironically ... https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg14106.html [12:49] seb128, quite a lot of pages were missing flickables, which will just spawn more of these bugs. :) Let me know if you know of more affected pages. [12:49] olli: echo "LoggingLevel=2" > ~/.config/signond.conf and reboot [12:49] jgdx, right [12:49] then send us your syslog [12:50] (on canonical's pastebin, since it may have some sensitive data in it) [12:50] dbarth, thx, I'll lean on davmor2 humor to add more color to the favour I asked and in all honor.. I think davmor2 will get the right infourmation into a bug [12:50] trolololo [12:55] olli, dbarth, seems a non-Canonical user is affected? From reading the mailing list [12:57] uh :/ [12:57] let me check === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:01] Elleo, hi :) How can I resolve this [1] error when running system settings on the desktop? I remember the MR, just not the details. :) [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11872317/ [13:04] olli: you favour right it's a step in the right direction :D [13:04] you got even [13:08] seb128, good morning [13:08] beuno, dobey, dbarth: I guess you guys are the ones I need to ping for testing and logs etc to grab right, what do you need from my ota 4 device, I can also check on the ota5 image too for you in 1 moment [13:08] seb128, did you get a chance to look at those new packages? [13:09] davmor2, can you try again now? [13:09] there were some... changes [13:09] beuno: sure one second [13:10] kenvandine, hey, yeah they look fine [13:10] great [13:10] seb128, the last 2 are in a silo ppa [13:10] beuno: yes installing now [13:10] https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-034 [13:10] davmor2, so, works? [13:11] seb128, please check out buteo-sync-plugins-contacts and buteo-syncfw-qml [13:11] kenvandine, looking [13:11] seb128, thx :) [13:11] beuno: just checking on the account [13:11] uw! [13:11] yw! [13:11] davmor2: do the: echo "LoggingLevel=2" > ~/.config/signond.conf and reboot [13:12] beuno: yes account is still in place \o/ let me try another app now to be sure it doesn't get removed and wind up in the loop again [13:13] beuno: second application installed no issues \o/ oh happy day, oh happy day [13:13] olli: ^ [13:14] dbarth: ^ [13:14] davmor2: then things go into syslog (watch out, it will /spam/ your syslog; so better rm that conf file afterwards) [13:14] kenvandine, buteo-syncfw-qml debian/control line 11 has trailing spaces that would be nice to clean out [13:14] dbarth: the changes beuno made fixed it by the look of it [13:15] kenvandine, also why do you have "X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes", seems there is no i18n or po dir [13:15] well, there was a service down (not SSO) that I was unaware [13:15] that seemed to break things somewhere in the auth chain from phonws [13:15] 13 as well [13:15] kenvandine, yes [13:15] fixed [13:16] VincentInPC: try and login to the store now it might be fixed for you too [13:17] kenvandine, "buteo" is not really an expressive/nice name btw, but I guess that's not going to change? ;-) [13:17] seb128, no... [13:17] though so :-) [13:17] we didn't name it :) [13:18] kenvandine, buteo-syncfw-qml seems fine to me [13:18] beuno: so has it been added to check that it is up on releases? [13:18] beuno: so we don't have this again? :) [13:19] seb128, thx, i'm proposing a branch fixing those issues [13:19] kenvandine, shouldn't buteo-syncfw be in that ppa as well? [13:19] it is now [13:19] kenvandine, buteo-sync-plugins-contacts is depwaiting [13:19] seb128: esperanto for hawk, I guess the hawk-eyed will find something to sync no matter what or where ;) [13:19] k [13:19] it isn't from bzr, so i didn't want to upload it until we knew it was good [13:20] didn't want to do the ubuntu revision dance :) [13:20] davmor2, what what? [13:20] davmor2, a live service went down [13:20] what do you want us to check? [13:21] there were nagios alerts, etc when it was down (during a deployment) [13:21] beuno: ah I thought it was something that was torn down as part of the roll out and not brought back up, me misreading :) [13:21] I just didn't know about it when we started the conversation [13:22] we might find a way for the error to be more obvious next time though [13:22] sso died? [13:23] kenvandine, buteo-sync-plugins-contacts ... COPYING is GPL-2 but sources are LGPL, also why making debian/ GPL and not using the same license as the source? [13:23] renatu, i proposed a branch with some final packaging tweaks, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/buteo-syncfw-qml/packaging_fixes/+merge/264559 [13:23] seb128, updated mr and test pass locally. [13:23] jgdx, thanks [13:23] renatu, i added that to the landing already [13:23] beuno: no worries I thought it was something just missed off the check list for the bring up, in which case I was checking it was added, but being as it was a live service not a lot to do about that really :( [13:23] kenvandine, that mr has a depends->recommends change/rename which is not mentioned in the commit msg [13:24] oh... forgot to prereq the other branch [13:24] davmor2, beuno: ok, all good; back to normal [13:24] davmor2, more live, less death! [13:24] olli: can you confirm you can login now too please :) [13:24] thanks for testing / reporting the issue [13:25] oh i guess updown maybe if not sso [13:25] beuno: :D [13:25] davmor2, otp, 5min [13:25] re davmor2 :) [13:26] hello dobey [13:26] hi [13:26] renatu, seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/buteo-syncfw-qml/packaging_fixes/+merge/264560 [13:26] VincentInPC: there was an issue with a service that has now been fixed you should be able to get update but you may have to log into ubuntuone again first [13:26] kenvandine, better ;-) [13:26] kenvandine, nice thanks [13:27] ...okay ! Do you plan to warn all ubuntu touch users in any way ? [13:27] 'cause I think this issue will create a big problem in the community :o [13:27] seb128, looking at the license [13:28] davmor2: do you know how I can logoff ? [13:28] VincentInPC: it should just be fixed and we will ping the thread on the mailing list [13:28] seb128, i'll fix the COPYING file, but i still don't like LGPL for packaging [13:29] but it's a global problem to all users or just those how hack their phones with sync and/or mounting their /dev/loop0 ? [13:29] davmor2, I was affected as well, arale #61. Fixed for me. [13:29] kenvandine, why? we usually just use the same license as the project, easier [13:29] i know... [13:29] davmor2, did you need me to just retry or do anything in prep upfront? [13:29] we still need a separate section for debian/* in the copyright [13:29] olli: just re-try [13:30] so not really easier [13:30] VincentInPC: it's not a global problem, because it's confined to people who tried to install something from the store or install updates, within a short time frame [13:30] olli: live service died which stopped login on phones [13:30] VincentInPC: anyone whom did not already encounter the problem, will not now encounter it, as it's been fixed already [13:30] dobey: I think I have this problem since last week [13:30] okai :) [13:31] VincentInPC: in that case your issue might be different talk with dobey and he might get you to file a bug for it [13:32] VincentInPC: can you see the store at all? [13:32] what problem? [13:32] beuno, davmor2... working [13:32] * olli is installing telegram [13:32] olli: \o/ [13:33] olli, thanks. We [13:33] we're following up with an incident report [13:33] beuno, so the cause was a dead service? [13:33] kenvandine, buteo-sync-plugins-contacts looks ok otherwise [13:34] great [13:34] olli, yeah, a deployment broken mid-deploy and had some knock-on effects [13:34] olli: I think that is politically incorrect they call them funerals nowadays ;) [13:34] VincentInPC: if you are unable to view the store contents at all, then it is a separate issue likely limited to your own device or something. i can see the store just fine on my device [13:35] davmor2: groan [13:35] dobey: davmor2 I'm trying to login again to the Ubuntu One account I deleted on my phone, but I get a "Network error - please retry" [13:35] dobey: VincentInPC http://influence-pc.fr/03-07-2015-synchroniser-ses-contacts-et-calendrier-dubuntu-phone-via-owncloud-cosy-cloud did this to get owncloud sync in place I don't know if the crt's might have an adverse effect but I wouldn't of thought so right ;) [13:35] renatu, seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/buteo-sync-plugins-contacts/license_fix/+merge/264568 [13:35] dobey: i had same problem before deleting the account on my phone, while trying to update [13:35] VincentInPC: that sounds like you have no route [13:36] kenvandine, +1 [13:36] dobey: oh come on it was good for a quick fire pun :) [13:36] VincentInPC: so it seems like there is a network connectivity issue [13:36] but I can browse the great internet without any problem is Web App or in twitter [13:36] davmor2, lol @ funeral [13:36] renatu, i also added that to the landing [13:36] and reconfigured [13:36] I can read the message ;) It's not a network issue [13:36] I can garantee that [13:36] renatu, don't rebuild the silo yet though [13:37] beuno, good, glad it's nothing more severe [13:37] "more" [13:37] renatu, i'm getting all the depends built in the silo first [13:41] dobey: any track I can follow ? [13:43] mardy: what was the command to get the online accounts UI to run in a console to get the debug messages? [13:44] davmor2: well, those instructions are wrong, but i don't see anything there which would directly break the store [13:45] VincentInPC: can you see the contents of the store at all? (you don't need to be logged in to see what's available, only to purchase/install things) [13:45] dobey: no, it's blank [13:46] VincentInPC: you can check the " [13:46] doh [13:46] dobey: the small horizontal and orange bar go from left to right (and right to left) during some seconds and nothing appear [13:46] dobey: that's what I assumed when I read through it but I pointed you out as being the guy to talk to for this issue as it seemed way more than a small issue. But I asked all the questions I could think of including did you modify your system so that was the obvious start place then :) [13:46] VincentInPC: you can check the ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log file for logged errors when trying to brows the store [13:47] dobey: I got this : [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:15,944 - WARNING - WARNING: QApplication was not created in the main() thread. [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:16,260 - WARNING - Signing reuested but no credentials found. Using unsigned URL. [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:16,582 - WARNING - Network error: "SSL handshake failed (6)" [13:47] "" [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:16,583 - WARNING - Network error getting purchases. [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:18,277 - WARNING - Network error: "SSL handshake failed (6)" [13:47] "" [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:18,278 - WARNING - departments call failed due to network error [13:47] 2015-07-13 15:47:18,280 - WARNING - bootstrap request failed [13:48] VincentInPC: are you behind a transparent proxy or something? [13:48] apparently it is breaking ssl [13:48] not at all [13:48] VincentInPC, http://paste.ubuntu.com is a new website, you should use it ;-) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [13:48] new->nice [13:48] seb128: s/new// :) [13:48] heh [13:48] :p [13:48] sorry ;-) [13:49] dobey: I just added my self signed certificate to /usr/share/ca-certificates and call sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates [13:49] seb128: ok [13:50] VincentInPC: can you open https://login.ubuntu.com/ in the browser app? [13:50] yes [13:51] VincentInPC: if you view the cert info by tapping the lock, what does it say? can you take a screenshot and share it? [13:52] I'm sorry but the interface doesn't let me tap the lock [13:52] it always fire the "earth" on its left or the url bar [13:53] the lock is grey [13:55] does it not pop up a thing saying "you are connected to: ..." when you tap on the lock? [13:55] yes [13:56] that is the pop-up for the lock. what does it say you are connected to? [13:56] login.ubuntu.com [13:56] as it [13:58] hmm, it shows a globe and not the u1 logo? can you take a screenshot please? [14:00] seb128: I can't paste my screenshot to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ :) [14:00] you can paste it on any image sharing site, or twitter, or whatever [14:01] dobey: here is my french "whatever" :P http://dl.free.fr/o0pkM7L5a [14:02] hmm [14:02] dobey: OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL=2 OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=9999 online-accounts-service [14:03] ah thanks mardy [14:07] VincentInPC: how are you connected to the internet right now? [14:07] through wifi [14:09] VincentInPC: do you see the favicon for any web sites connected on https in the browser? [14:10] =o =o =o [14:10] dobey: no! [14:11] mhh [14:11] VincentInPC: so it seems very much like there is a transparent proxy between your device and the internet, and it is breaking ssl :) [14:11] it seems that yes on wikipedia [14:11] I'm at home, I'm pretty sure to don't have any proxy [14:11] I've the favicon on https/wikipedia [14:12] VincentInPC: your router could have a transparent proxy without your knowledge, or your isp could be using one. [14:12] hmm [14:12] mh [14:13] well on login.ubuntu.com you should see the orange U1 logo icon in the bar [14:15] perhaps I had no problem on wikipedia 'cause it's a frequently visited website [14:15] on Amazon i haven't the favicon on https [14:15] and I can see it on my laptop [14:16] idem for https://login.ubuntu.com/ [14:16] . [14:16] it's not the connexion it's the phone :p [14:16] hmm [14:23] VincentInPC: can you disable wifi, reboot, and try to access the store on 3g? [14:23] already done, same problem =/ [14:24] (I'm retrying) [14:27] dobey: yes same problem [14:34] dobey: OK I've a good news: it works again [14:34] I think the solution will interest you [14:36] davmor2: dobey: when i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates it only ticked the first item, my self signed certificate, and no one of the others [14:37] I guessed it was normal, 'cause it would be sooo looong to check all the other boxes. But that's the point: i had to check again ALL certificates (more than one hundred) [14:40] ah ok [14:41] I'll suggest to sync with the certificate in parameter to syncevolution commands instead [14:43] i'd suggest doing the owncloud stuff in a chroot/container instead [14:46] it's too much just to sync a phone! [14:47] it will come neatly packed in a snap package one day :) [14:47] not really. you're adding a complex configuration that uses a cron job, by modifying the read-only partition === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:48] so as it is now, you will lose some of that at some point during a system image upgrade [14:48] 'cause there is no GUI to do the things already available with a Google Account, it's not designed to be a definitive solution =] [14:49] I'll figure out how to handle this at next upgrade, thanks for warning :) [14:50] well, if you do it within a container then the container will be preserved, you can install lots of other standard ubuntu tools within the container very easily, and it won't totally break the host system if you do certain things in it (like trying to add a self signed cert to ca-certificates) [14:51] well it's the only tricky thing I've done, and I'm reverting it [15:02] jgdx, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1472505/+merge/264299 [15:02] jgdx, when you have a chance [15:02] kenvandine, looking [15:10] kenvandine, workes well and all icons reflect what's in nm-applet. Thanks! [15:10] woot [15:10] mariogrip: thanks again for the work :) and execellent communication on the forums. [15:11] kenvandine, jgdx, are you lining up some new landings with the approved reviews? [15:12] Could anyone have a look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta/+bug/1460752 [15:12] seb128, yeah, silo 34 [15:12] seb128, as soon as the gates open [15:12] oh [15:12] :p [15:12] kenvandine, jgdx: thanks [15:12] seb128, oh... right [15:13] i was thinking the buteo stuff :) [15:13] lol [15:13] gates should be open today, and have them close doesn't prevent lining up landings [15:13] they should be open by the time we build/test things [15:13] seb128, seems they dont open yet since there is an issue with auto-locking the screen === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:14] ogra_, right, which is why I wrote "today" and not "already" ;-) [15:14] :) [15:19] renatu, http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Announcing-session-migration-now-in-ubuntu [15:20] renatu, bfiller: so it doesn't run at package update time but at the next session start [15:20]