[15:01] <BigPoppaHungry> hello
[15:39] <holstein> BigPoppaHungry: o/
[15:40] <BigPoppaHungry> I'm new to IRC
[15:40] <holstein> welcome
[15:40] <BigPoppaHungry> and to Ubuntu Studio
[15:40] <BigPoppaHungry> thank you ;-)
[15:40] <BigPoppaHungry> I'm very tech saavy, but all my prior experience is with BSD in work envr's
[15:40] <holstein> nice..
[15:41] <holstein> should be similar enough underneath for you to really do some damage ;)
[15:41] <BigPoppaHungry> ;-)
[15:42] <BigPoppaHungry> I had become very productive with some basic day-to-day tools on Win7, but Win8.1 was a terrible mess for me
[15:42] <BigPoppaHungry> Win10 (July 29th) seems no better
[15:42] <BigPoppaHungry> and I can't afford OSX
[15:42] <holstein> eh.. i thought the dev preview of 10 looked ok
[15:42] <BigPoppaHungry> (although I might install a Hackintosh later, just for giggles)
[15:42] <holstein> looked like i would really prefer fixing it for others, over win8
[15:43] <BigPoppaHungry> haha
[15:43] <holstein> i reset an admin password for a friend using XP the other day... smh
[15:43] <BigPoppaHungry> so anyhow, I was a Ubuntu desktop user for a little while, a few years ago
[15:43] <holstein> at least, its an offline only machine..
[15:43] <BigPoppaHungry> lol
[15:43] <holstein> i mean, all i can do is state the facts, and do the job..
[15:43] <BigPoppaHungry> I just setup dual boot XP Pro with LXLE on my wifes 'spare'
[15:43] <holstein> xp is EOL, so you can just blow that away
[15:44] <holstein> finally
[15:44] <BigPoppaHungry> I'll let you guess which one went fast and easy (it wasn't XP)
[15:45] <holstein> well, i dont think its fair to compare an xp install with a modern linux install
[15:45] <BigPoppaHungry> well, in my experience, people with doctorates in the humanities who are also over 40 (so they have high expectations from support, but little desire to learn anything remotely technical) can be the most difficult to continue to support ;-)
[15:45] <holstein> if you took a linux distro from that era, and installed, it may not be "out of the box" simple on that hardware, either..
[15:46] <BigPoppaHungry> I'm going to probably just issue an apt-get for samba, and setup some shares (rather than the built-in).  But I'm also considering a bigger package, just to play around
[15:47] <holstein> i make windows do linux, these days
[15:47] <holstein> i just setup ssh on the linux boxes, and do all the "hacking" on the windows side.. makes life a lot easier
[15:47] <holstein> but, i dont have any more local windows machines that are for anything besides testing
[15:48] <BigPoppaHungry> well, I've got a big family, lots of boxes
[15:48] <holstein> sure
[15:48] <BigPoppaHungry> about half down the middle are win
[15:48] <holstein> ive got the same, just a lot of linux boxes.. speaking ssh, or whatever
[15:48] <holstein> makes it easier..
[15:48] <holstein> if someone brings a windows PC around, its up to it to conform
[15:49] <BigPoppaHungry> I'm not saavy on *nix beyond what I used it at work for, and for a few classes years back, rarely was a daily driver
[15:49] <holstein> well, if you find it challenging, to constantly be trying to make linux "fit" in with a windows ecosystem, just consider changing the thought process
[15:50] <holstein> it made my life a lot easier..
[15:50] <BigPoppaHungry> any gotchas or package mistakes I should avoid, if I do decide on a big samba experiment?
[15:50] <holstein> samba is great, though
[15:50] <BigPoppaHungry> with Ubuntu Studio
[15:50] <holstein> why ubuntustudio?
[15:50] <BigPoppaHungry> lol
[15:50] <holstein> anyways, ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, and that is linux, so, you can follow any ubuntu documentation
[15:51] <holstein> for example, you /joined here, and said "hey", and 40 minutes later, i luckily noticed you
[15:51] <holstein> you could wait here for days and not see anyone
[15:51] <BigPoppaHungry> a big factor that has driven me toward Ubuntu this time, is the hate of touch interface and the whole giant tonka toy icon mess.
[15:51] <BigPoppaHungry> ;-)
[15:51] <holstein> and, ubuntustudio is specific for audio/video production, so, you dont need to query here specifically for samba config questions
[15:51] <BigPoppaHungry> and it is indeed much appreciated
[15:51] <holstein> the issue is.. you'll ask in #ubuntu, and they will send you here, and here is dead..
[15:51] <BigPoppaHungry> ahh
[15:51] <BigPoppaHungry> lol
[15:52] <holstein> then, you are like "well, that opensource stuff is not well supported"
[15:52] <holstein> well, not you specifically, but, you get what i mean
[15:52] <holstein> but, ubuntustudio, nor ubuntu promise "get any windows PC happily communicating with it over proprietary protocols"
[15:52] <BigPoppaHungry> haha, nope.  I've got no probs researching.  I just go with what is easiest.  If I can get ez answers, then hey all the better (within reasonable slackardly limits)
[15:53] <holstein> so, i just say, take a few steps back, consider just reading about samba, which, is also available on bsd
[15:53] <holstein> BigPoppaHungry: "ez answers" is the issue.. no one knows your setup.. so, the answers are specific to your case
[15:53] <BigPoppaHungry> right
[15:53] <holstein> and, you dont have a "support contract".. as a matter of fact, you have quite the opposite, which can be challenging
[15:53] <BigPoppaHungry> yep
[15:54] <holstein> you have hardware that the creators have promise complete support for.. for another OS
[15:54] <holstein> and i just say that to again, try and highlight where the burden of support is.. which is, completely on you, and the community
[15:55] <holstein> that means, you have complete control.. and, that means, you have complete responsibility
[15:55] <BigPoppaHungry> it's just not always easy to find statistical info, like, 'what do most folks with studio do in xyz scenario', which is when it helps to throw out a ping
[15:55] <holstein> a team of experts were hired, and worked likely months or years, making sure that, when you power up all those windows PC's they can communicate via networking, and work well out of the box
[15:55] <BigPoppaHungry> preachin to the choir though, lol
[15:55] <holstein> you are taking that on, when you decide to run BSD, or linux.. or whatever they dont promise support for
[15:55] <holstein> i dont even think im preaching at all
[15:56] <holstein> i mean, if linux is the righht tool, thats great. if not, thats great.. im just stating where i think you will get the "best" help
[15:56] <BigPoppaHungry> true, basic facts in a way, that new folks (or even intermed folks) can easily forget or overlook in the heat of the moment
[15:56] <holstein> i know, i did
[15:56] <holstein> when trying to get my audio interface to work, for literally  years
[15:57] <holstein> buut, those are an investement, and i bought it to work with XP
[15:57] <holstein> when i switched, that was my responsibility.. not "linux".. linux isnt doing anything to prevent my interface from working
[15:57] <BigPoppaHungry> brb
[15:57] <holstein> doesnt make it any easier though
[15:57] <BigPoppaHungry> sorry
[16:11] <BigPoppaHungry> wow.  My kids.  I am sorry, but I have to deal with something.  I really appreciate your time though.  Maybe I'll see you here again.
[16:11] <holstein> sure
[16:11] <BigPoppaHungry> I usually keep the same names for services
[16:11] <holstein> cheers
[16:11] <BigPoppaHungry> take care.
[16:11] <BigPoppaHungry> thank again, and have a great day!