| Riddell | sgclark: voila http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html | 00:31 |
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| Riddell | build-status-conf/frameworks.conf is now part of the kubuntu-automation bzr repository so I just reverted to the version in bzr and on my local computer updated to 5.12, commited and the bzr update on the server | 00:31 |
| sgclark | oh we dont do on the server anymore? | 00:32 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ^ | 00:32 |
| sgclark | and thank you | 00:32 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I switched to put the config in bzr, I think that's nicer | 00:33 |
| sgclark | okies | 00:33 |
| sgclark | though I did not realize I am leaving for akademy next week and have stuff to take care of before I leave, I will finish frameworks though. | 00:35 |
| Riddell | thanks sgclark, but as ever don't stress yourself to death! | 00:37 |
| sgclark | lol | 00:37 |
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| murthy | I finally solved the problem of long shutdown time. Process kwin_x11 was not responding to sigterm. I traced the problem with kwin_x11 to config file kwinrulesrc. I deleted all the kwinrulesrc* and the problem got solved | 05:36 |
| murthy | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344518 | 05:41 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 344518 in rules "leftover kwin process" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 05:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | ubottu: where's kubotu? | 05:48 |
| ubottu | ovidiu-florin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 05:48 |
| vip | hi h | 07:15 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:15 |
| zxsinclair | morning, I am running 15.10 alpha in a vbox and just want to say it looks great | 07:26 |
| zxsinclair | can anyone confirm if KNemo is kind of outdated (no Plasma5) though | 07:27 |
| soee | not sure, never used knemo :0 | 07:50 |
| soee | :) | 07:50 |
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| sitter | zxsinclair: pretty sure it is unmaintained so it might well be broken. would be perfect pet project if you are looking to become a developer ;) | 08:00 |
| sitter | otherwise ksysguard and the network applet should mostly replace it | 08:01 |
| zxsinclair | +sitter it is just that where I live a more "active" indication of internet is vital | 08:01 |
| zxsinclair | man its been long since IRC - how do I indicate a certain ID like +sitter | 08:04 |
| sitter | zxsinclair: apparently it was picked up again | 08:04 |
| sitter | zxsinclair: userna<tab> | 08:04 |
| zxsinclair | tab? | 08:04 |
| sitter | tab key | 08:05 |
| sitter | above caps lock | 08:05 |
| sitter | ah no knemo only had translation commits | 08:05 |
| zxsinclair | yes I know where it is but does not seem to work in Quassel | 08:05 |
| sitter | #quassel might be able to help | 08:06 |
| zxsinclair | sitter: got it! | 08:06 |
| zxsinclair | you first press TAB.. | 08:06 |
| zxsinclair | sorry for "noice" guys, it has been a while | 08:07 |
| sitter | well, you write part of the name and then tab :P | 08:07 |
| zxsinclair | sitter: Now I got it | 08:07 |
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| sick_rimmit | Good Morning | 08:27 |
| sick_rimmit | sitter: Hi, I need your help on something I believe | 08:28 |
| sick_rimmit | sitter: my rick-timmis@kubuntu.org email address does not appear to forward to my registered email address on launchpad, would you be the correct person to ask about this ? | 08:29 |
| Riddell | sick_rimmit: #launchpad or #canonical-sysadmin | 08:32 |
| sitter | sick_rimmit: make sure your primary email address on launchpad is not set to your kubuntu address | 08:33 |
| sitter | your kubuntu address is set up as a forwarding address to your primary launchpad address, so if you have the kubuntu address as primary it will forward to itself | 08:33 |
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| zxsinclair | sitter: I think this basically means Knemo is "abandonware". There are replacements so am not crying hard but I like it | 09:58 |
| sitter | zxsinclair: you could try reporting a bug and see if someone responds :P | 09:59 |
| zxsinclair | sitter: true that. But am still keeping 15.x in Vbox. Actually on 15.10 alpha. For everyday use on 14.10 | 10:00 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:22 |
| santa_ | hey Riddell | 12:45 |
| Riddell | howdy, clivejo_, there's a new calligra out if you enjoyed the last one :) | 12:45 |
| Riddell | hola santa_ | 12:45 |
| santa_ | hola | 12:45 |
| santa_ | :) | 12:45 |
| santa_ | I saw somthing you may be interested in wrt gcc 5 | 12:45 |
| santa_ | let me find the link... | 12:46 |
| santa_ | https://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmusicbrainz5/news/20150708T230015Z.html | 12:47 |
| santa_ | Riddell: ↑ this package was uploaded to unstable recently so I guess you will want to do something about it | 12:48 |
| santa_ | a possible course of action would be: 1. sync that package with debian, 2. rebuild the packages mentioned in the changelog against the new musicbrainz in ubuntu | 12:49 |
| Riddell | thanks santa_, I guess I'll talk to doko | 12:49 |
| santa_ | for libkcddb you will need patch, it's available in debian's git master | 12:50 |
| santa_ | s/patch/a patch/ | 12:51 |
| Riddell | hmm | 12:56 |
| Riddell | patches are bad m'kay | 12:57 |
| santa_ | but sometimes you need them to avoid ftbfs'ing http://imagebin.ca/v/28bZVFBoBdwW | 13:07 |
| sitter | nope, upstream should release a hotfix is what should happen | 13:13 |
| santa_ | but in the meantime I had to apply the patch to make it buildable and installable again http://imagebin.ca/v/28bZVFBoBdwW | 13:16 |
| santa_ | the patch in question: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkcddb.git/commit/?id=1caf3cfa80bced172714d64976939bea489e4a45 | 13:18 |
| Riddell | clivejo_: oh and plenty of merges to be done of course | 14:39 |
| Riddell | hi TJ-, do you want to be an elite Kubuntu ninja? | 14:39 |
| TJ- | Riddell: No... just fix some annoying bugs | 14:42 |
| Riddell | oh I'm sure we have plenty of those | 14:43 |
| Riddell | as I say most of our software is from KDE | 14:43 |
| Riddell | stuff like the installed is Kubuntu specific, and the language installer needs ported to kf5 and notification helper is ours and muon is kde's but we're the main user | 14:43 |
| TJ- | I'm going to pull in the KDE next week and see if I can get my head around it, again :) | 14:43 |
| TJ- | s/KDE/KDE development repos/ | 14:44 |
| Riddell | pick something small and see if you can get it to compile | 14:44 |
| Riddell | our stuff https://projects.kde.org/search?projects=1&q=kubuntu | 14:45 |
| TJ- | Compiling isn't a problem, getting my head around how the components interact, and the context/history/direction is. | 14:46 |
| Riddell | all the stuff you don't get taught in university | 14:47 |
| Riddell | don't be afraid to ask | 14:47 |
| Riddell | awooga, ktp gets into release! | 15:40 |
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| murthy | kdeconnect 0.8b is available, can we get a update? Shall I file a bug report? | 17:42 |
| soee | someone tried it http://www.tuxarena.com/2015/07/qmplay2-gets-a-new-release-mostly-fixes/ ? | 18:09 |
| ahoneybun | soee: debian is moving towards or away ffmpeg? | 18:22 |
| soee | it will use ffmpeg | 18:22 |
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| murthy | Does smplayer support ffmpeg? | 18:31 |
| lordievader | murthy: Believe mplayer (or mpv) can use both, depends on how you compile it. | 18:50 |
| lordievader | Hmm nevermind I only see the libav useflag. | 18:51 |
| clivejo_ | murthy: where did you see this ? "kdeconnect 0.8b is available, can we get a update? Shall I file a bug report?" | 18:51 |
| murthy | clivejo_: commits | 18:52 |
| murthy | clivejo_: sorry tags | 18:52 |
| murthy | clivejo_: I am trying to build a deb so I can test | 18:53 |
| clivejo_ | murthy do you know how to check out the code for 0.8b? | 18:58 |
| murthy | clivejo_: ya, but I just downloaded a snapshot | 18:59 |
| clivejo_ | how? | 18:59 |
| clivejo_ | I tried to download a tarball but there is only one file in it | 18:59 |
| soee | clivejo_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/791959/download-a-specific-tag-with-git | 19:00 |
| soee | clone and checkout tag | 19:00 |
| clivejo_ | thanks soee | 19:00 |
| murthy | yes | 19:00 |
| clivejo_ | murthy: what is its name? | 19:14 |
| clivejo_ | previous packages are kdeconnect-kde | 19:15 |
| clivejo_ | but I can only get it to build as kdeconnect | 19:15 |
| murthy | clivejo_: kdeconnect-kde is a transitional package so what you have is correct | 19:26 |
| clivejo_ | murthy: can you get it to build? | 19:27 |
| murthy | clivejo_: ya, doing that | 19:27 |
| clivejo_ | my one is failing on network test | 19:27 |
| murthy | clivejo_: I am able to compile it. finished compiling it. Now I am trying to package it as deb for personal use | 19:27 |
| murthy | clivejo_: did you install the build dependencies for kdeconnect? | 19:28 |
| clivejo_ | I thought I had | 19:28 |
| murthy | clivejo_: you didn't? | 19:29 |
| clivejo_ | well its failing on testsocketlinereader | 19:29 |
| clivejo_ | must be misisng something | 19:30 |
| murthy | clivejo_: you did this right? sudo apt-get build-dep kdeconnect | 19:30 |
| murthy | clivejo_: also I had to configure the build towards qt4 | 19:30 |
| murthy | clivejo_: see I am a noob, so take care | 19:31 |
| clivejo_ | oh this version isnt for plasma 5? | 19:31 |
| murthy | clivejo_: it is, but during build it is asking for qt4 | 19:31 |
| clivejo_ | murthy: Im a noob too | 20:14 |
| clivejo_ | trying to learn how to package | 20:14 |
| murthy | Great! | 20:14 |
| clivejo_ | not going so well | 20:14 |
| murthy | we need more packagers | 20:14 |
| murthy | clivejo_: no problem, you will learn soon | 20:15 |
| soee | someone familar witd nodejs ? | 20:15 |
| murthy | soee: nope | 20:15 |
| clivejo_ | anyone know why my nick keeps changing to clivejo_ ? | 20:35 |
| soee | what primary nick you have set ? | 20:36 |
| clivejo | thats so weird! | 20:37 |
| yofel | usually happens when your connection dies and you reconnect immediately | 20:38 |
| clivejo | I was logged into VLC chat | 20:38 |
| clivejo | but it was saying my nick was in use and was changing it | 20:38 |
| clivejo | very strange | 20:41 |
| clivejo | is VLC on Freenode? | 20:41 |
| clivejo | ah | 20:42 |
| yofel | should be, they were in the past at least | 20:42 |
| Riddell | hola chicxs | 20:43 |
| clivejo | I was connecting via irc.videolan.org | 20:43 |
| clivejo | strange loop back thing going on | 20:44 |
| yofel | well, irc.ubuntu.com is the same ^^ | 20:44 |
| clivejo | when I logged in via irc.videolan.org it was saying my nick was in use and changing it to clivejo_ | 20:45 |
| clivejo | hi Riddell | 20:46 |
| clivejo | anyone working on the new calligra? | 20:48 |
| Riddell | nope, it's for the taking | 20:48 |
| Riddell | but so are a bunch of merges if that doesn't excite you | 20:48 |
| sgclark | bunch of merges? | 20:49 |
| Riddell | well they might be if merge-o-matic was working https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | 20:49 |
| Riddell | meh | 20:50 |
| * clivejo kicks merge-o-matic | 20:50 | |
| clivejo | try now | 20:50 |
| Riddell | nope didn't help | 20:53 |
| sgclark | ahh heh | 20:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I've updated the docs in kubuntu-automation to point to the new staging-upload script and it working ok for frameworks, what did you have problems with | 20:56 |
| Riddell | the trouble is it's making kci very sad with merges | 20:56 |
| sgclark | right | 20:57 |
| sgclark | so all deps have this ~ at end now. | 20:57 |
| sgclark | = fails | 20:57 |
| yofel | what deps? | 20:57 |
| sgclark | and I *think* that was main problem | 20:57 |
| sgclark | frameworks | 20:58 |
| sgclark | build dpes | 20:58 |
| sgclark | evidently a maxy change? | 20:58 |
| yofel | got an example? | 20:58 |
| Riddell | the ~ isn't a bad thing is it? that's because maxy likes to upload versions with a ~ | 20:59 |
| yofel | we all do, esp. for PPA's. So it is a good idea really | 20:59 |
| sgclark | libkf5coreaddons-dev (>= 5.12.0~), | 20:59 |
| yofel | why would that fail? | 21:00 |
| sgclark | the merges did | 21:00 |
| sgclark | your asking the wrong person, all I know is I had to manually merge all of kf5 | 21:00 |
| sgclark | great fun | 21:00 |
| ScottK | From a packaging perspective, 5.12.0~ is a great version to have. | 21:01 |
| yofel | *SIGH* | 21:01 |
| sgclark | sigh? | 21:02 |
| yofel | can we drop all that CI merging... it's causing more work than it helps :( | 21:02 |
| sgclark | I am sure it is an easy fix... I will look when I have time | 21:02 |
| Riddell | merging from debian definately seems to be more faff that it's worth, at least more than once a cycle | 21:03 |
| Riddell | yay plasma-nm got into wily! | 21:04 |
| TJ- | I can donate a few cycles to packaging although its not my primary objective, if it'll help | 21:05 |
| Riddell | TJ-: we'd always love more packagers | 21:06 |
| Riddell | although many of the problems come from tools not being quite as reliable as they ought to be | 21:06 |
| Riddell | sgclark: will you upload those to the PPA? | 21:06 |
| TJ- | I'm sure; that's why I'm being careful not to get drawn into it too far! | 21:06 |
| TJ- | Does the kubuntu packaging follow the ubuntu development process, using bzr, or is it on a per-package/per-dev-preference basis? | 21:07 |
| clivejo | murthy: did you get kdeconnect packaged? | 21:08 |
| Riddell | TJ-: the big kde releases, frameworks, plasma and applications we package in branches debian's git | 21:09 |
| TJ- | Mmmm git :) | 21:09 |
| Riddell | TJ-: we have a nifty CI to package it every day http://kci.pangea.pub/ | 21:09 |
| Riddell | TJ-: and then we have less nifty scripts to package the tars when they get made | 21:09 |
| TJ- | Riddell: to save you typing... is the process documented someplace? I'm not having much luck finding anything about the CI-train merge process right now | 21:10 |
| Riddell | TJ-: no not really | 21:10 |
| Riddell | ci-train is ubuntu's system I think | 21:11 |
| Riddell | we use kci | 21:11 |
| yofel | the CI workflow is documented on some kde wiki page, I forgot the URL though | 21:11 |
| TJ- | Riddell: So if I recall correctly, most of the main packages come directly from a Debian merge and rarely carry {k,u}ubuntu specific debian/patch/ additions? | 21:11 |
| yofel | TJ-: not that rarely, but mostly yes. And we're usually ahead of debian in the versions | 21:12 |
| TJ- | yofel: My search-fu failed on finding it, or else on spotting current practice :) | 21:12 |
| Riddell | packaging is here (mostly) http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ | 21:12 |
| Riddell | some packages are still in bzr like calligra and digikam and others | 21:12 |
| TJ- | yofel: Is the preference to patch in Debian? | 21:12 |
| Riddell | and some aren't in version control at all | 21:12 |
| Riddell | preference is to patch in KDE | 21:12 |
| TJ- | Riddell: Those will be tarball + quilt? | 21:13 |
| TJ- | Riddell: OK, so upstream preferred for cross-distro stuff; how about for Debianised patches, preference Debian, and then I assume Kubuntu for flavour-specific stuff like branding/language ? | 21:14 |
| yofel | ah, found it: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Merges | 21:14 |
| murthy | clivejo: ya | 21:15 |
| murthy | clivejo: going to install | 21:15 |
| TJ- | yofel: Thanks :) | 21:15 |
| Riddell | TJ-: we try not to add our own branding to KDE software, KDE's a brand we want to promote | 21:15 |
| clivejo | Ive installed mine, doesnt fix the file transfer from Android to Kubuntu corrupting the file :) | 21:15 |
| murthy | clivejo: did you restart after installing ? | 21:16 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yeah I have to git-buildpackage-ppa by hand, will try to finish here in a few. Wily at least. | 21:16 |
| clivejo | yup | 21:16 |
| murthy | clivejo: I will test and tell you the result | 21:16 |
| clivejo | is there any way to tell which version Im actually running? | 21:16 |
| Riddell | sgclark: nice big bash for loop? or you can just run staging-upload it should work now | 21:16 |
| yofel | Riddell: what's the intended purpose of staging-upload? | 21:17 |
| murthy | clivejo: let me see | 21:17 |
| TJ- | Riddell: Maybe I used thw wrong word... not branding, but for example references to Kubuntu rather than Debian in strings/docs and maybe some tools? | 21:17 |
| sgclark | staging upload? | 21:17 |
| murthy | clivejo: run this kdeconnect-cli --version | 21:18 |
| sgclark | ahh bash script should work if skipping the backport merge | 21:18 |
| yofel | if you're skipping git on backports, you might as well use my old script... | 21:18 |
| clivejo | murthy: 0.8 | 21:18 |
| sgclark | old script? | 21:18 |
| yofel | although, the hooks are unmaintained | 21:18 |
| murthy | clivejo: thats the default one | 21:19 |
| yofel | kubuntu-batch-backport in automation | 21:19 |
| murthy | let me see what happens after I install | 21:19 |
| murthy | clivejo: ^ | 21:19 |
| sgclark | oh I meant just skipping for now. not for good. | 21:19 |
| * clivejo rolls eyes, I probably messed the packaging up | 21:19 | |
| valorie | what's my best bet folks, for making a bootable kub. ISO to check out a possible new travel computer? | 21:20 |
| valorie | in the store I mean, before purchasing | 21:20 |
| valorie | 15.04 64-bit? | 21:20 |
| murthy | brb | 21:21 |
| valorie | running out of time to purchase and fix up such a box | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | tool to make it or if you should use 15.04 vs 14.04? | 21:23 |
| Riddell | TJ-: again there shouldn't be many of those, we have the kubuntu-docs packages for docs and kubuntu-settings package for settings | 21:24 |
| TJ- | Riddell: OK, that makes things easier especially for translations :) | 21:25 |
| yofel | sgclark: well, you need the past changes from git or the hooks to get sane packages out at the end, so either you do the merges or you just run a script that just pulls the existing packages and uploads them to a different release (which is what the old one does) | 21:27 |
| yofel | Riddell: what's the intended purpose of staging-upload? | 21:28 |
| murthy | clivejo: I just tested with kdeconnect 0.8b the issue is not fixed. I think I saw a commit, a possible fix for this issue 0.8b tag. Let me check that | 21:28 |
| Riddell | yofel: replaces kubuntu-initial-upload | 21:28 |
| yofel | why? | 21:28 |
| clivejo | murthy: what is your version showing as? | 21:29 |
| Riddell | yofel: just tidying up the script, removing some of the cruft it's got | 21:29 |
| yofel | ok | 21:29 |
| murthy | clivejo: the command shows 0.8 | 21:29 |
| clivejo | oh, so maybe I did package it ok! | 21:29 |
| murthy | clivejo: the package version is the one I set which is 0.8b | 21:30 |
| murthy | clivejo: ya | 21:30 |
| murthy | clivejo: so you know packaging :) | 21:30 |
| clivejo | thats a shame, I was hoping that file corrupting bug was fixed | 21:30 |
| sgclark | sorry not really here. I did not realize I leave Sunday for akademy and have RL to attend to. But I will get wily uploaded by end of day. | 21:30 |
| Riddell | sgclark: don't worry if you can't! | 21:32 |
| Riddell | we should be working out how to build it with gcc 5 | 21:32 |
| Riddell | maybe we should make staging-frameworks depend on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/+packages | 21:33 |
| murthy | clivejo: I am going to test kdeconnect in the master branch | 21:33 |
| clivejo | murthy: let me know how it goes | 21:36 |
| murthy | ok | 21:36 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I made staging-frameworks depend on that gcc5 PPA so we know what breaks | 21:41 |
| sgclark | mm ok | 21:42 |
| valorie | !md5sum | 21:44 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 21:44 |
| Riddell | clivejo: it worked merge-o-matic is back! | 21:59 |
| Riddell | smokekde korundum kactivities kdnssd kwallet need merged | 21:59 |
| Riddell | let me know if you fancy tackling those clivejo, TJ- and need any pointers | 21:59 |
| TJ- | Question re: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Prevent_Merge.2FBuild_Fail ... the example shows using "quilt import <patch>" without any context as to where the patch file comes from. Surely if the patch is already in upstream the best approach would be "git cherry-pick --no-commit <commitish>" followed by "git diff > ../xxx.patch" and *then* "quilt import ../xxx.patch" ? | 22:02 |
| TJ- | (with a "git reset --hard HEAD" to remove the cherry-pick of course) | 22:03 |
| Riddell | TJ-: your git foo might be better than mine :) | 22:05 |
| TJ- | Riddell: :) ... I just felt I came in 1/2 way in reading that... lost the most important part of the context | 22:05 |
| Riddell | TJ-: it's a wiki, feel free to edit :) | 22:06 |
| TJ- | Riddell: I'll make local notes for now until I start actually using the tooling and confirm I'm correct :) | 22:06 |
| * Riddell uploads meta-kde-telepathy | 22:13 | |
| Riddell | from https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html polkit-qt-1 | 22:14 |
| Riddell | pkg-kde-tools | 22:14 |
| Riddell | and of course lots of non-kde stuff anyone can take | 22:16 |
| murthy | Riddell: do you know the build dependencies for kdeconnect on frameworks ? I am trying to build from master and its asking for a lot of kf5 libs, installing it one by one is hard. | 22:37 |
| Riddell | murthy: are you building on wily or vivid? | 22:38 |
| murthy | Riddell: vivid | 22:38 |
| murthy | is it harmful? | 22:39 |
| murthy | backports are enabled | 22:39 |
| Riddell | murthy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma is the package currently | 22:40 |
| murthy | I am stuck here https://paste.kde.org/py13z5gya | 22:40 |
| Riddell | apt-get build-dep kdeconnect-plasma would get them | 22:40 |
| murthy | oh | 22:40 |
| murthy | thats nice | 22:40 |
| murthy | let me try that | 22:40 |
| Riddell | murthy: has there been a release or are you packaging from git? | 22:42 |
| murthy | Riddell: testing from git branch | 22:42 |
| murthy | Riddell: just making deb to uninstall easily | 22:43 |
| mparillo_ | valorie: I used unetbootin to make bootable USBs, but rumour has it that it does not work on UEFI systems. | 22:43 |
| Riddell | murthy: well I think the package could do with an update so if you get it working let me know and I'll get it into the archive for wily | 22:43 |
| murthy | sure | 22:44 |
| * Riddell out | 22:51 | |
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