[00:31] sgclark: voila http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html [00:31] build-status-conf/frameworks.conf is now part of the kubuntu-automation bzr repository so I just reverted to the version in bzr and on my local computer updated to 5.12, commited and the bzr update on the server [00:32] oh we dont do on the server anymore? [00:32] Riddell: ^ [00:32] and thank you [00:33] sgclark: I switched to put the config in bzr, I think that's nicer [00:33] okies [00:35] though I did not realize I am leaving for akademy next week and have stuff to take care of before I leave, I will finish frameworks though. [00:37] thanks sgclark, but as ever don't stress yourself to death! [00:37] lol === thelionroars is now known as Guest84562 === Guest84562 is now known as thelionroars === tazz_ is now known as tazz [05:36] I finally solved the problem of long shutdown time. Process kwin_x11 was not responding to sigterm. I traced the problem with kwin_x11 to config file kwinrulesrc. I deleted all the kwinrulesrc* and the problem got solved [05:41] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344518 [05:41] KDE bug 344518 in rules "leftover kwin process" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [05:48] ubottu: where's kubotu? [05:48] ovidiu-florin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:15] hi h [07:15] Good morning. [07:26] morning, I am running 15.10 alpha in a vbox and just want to say it looks great [07:27] can anyone confirm if KNemo is kind of outdated (no Plasma5) though [07:50] not sure, never used knemo :0 [07:50] :) === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [08:00] zxsinclair: pretty sure it is unmaintained so it might well be broken. would be perfect pet project if you are looking to become a developer ;) [08:01] otherwise ksysguard and the network applet should mostly replace it [08:01] +sitter it is just that where I live a more "active" indication of internet is vital [08:04] man its been long since IRC - how do I indicate a certain ID like +sitter [08:04] zxsinclair: apparently it was picked up again [08:04] zxsinclair: userna [08:04] tab? [08:05] tab key [08:05] above caps lock [08:05] ah no knemo only had translation commits [08:05] yes I know where it is but does not seem to work in Quassel [08:06] #quassel might be able to help [08:06] sitter: got it! [08:06] you first press TAB.. [08:07] sorry for "noice" guys, it has been a while [08:07] well, you write part of the name and then tab :P [08:07] sitter: Now I got it === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [08:27] Good Morning [08:28] sitter: Hi, I need your help on something I believe [08:29] sitter: my rick-timmis@kubuntu.org email address does not appear to forward to my registered email address on launchpad, would you be the correct person to ask about this ? [08:32] sick_rimmit: #launchpad or #canonical-sysadmin [08:33] sick_rimmit: make sure your primary email address on launchpad is not set to your kubuntu address [08:33] your kubuntu address is set up as a forwarding address to your primary launchpad address, so if you have the kubuntu address as primary it will forward to itself === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [09:58] sitter: I think this basically means Knemo is "abandonware". There are replacements so am not crying hard but I like it [09:59] zxsinclair: you could try reporting a bug and see if someone responds :P [10:00] sitter: true that. But am still keeping 15.x in Vbox. Actually on 15.10 alpha. For everyday use on 14.10 === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [12:22] Hey folks [12:45] hey Riddell [12:45] howdy, clivejo_, there's a new calligra out if you enjoyed the last one :) [12:45] hola santa_ [12:45] hola [12:45] :) [12:45] I saw somthing you may be interested in wrt gcc 5 [12:46] let me find the link... [12:47] https://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmusicbrainz5/news/20150708T230015Z.html [12:48] Riddell: ↑ this package was uploaded to unstable recently so I guess you will want to do something about it [12:49] a possible course of action would be: 1. sync that package with debian, 2. rebuild the packages mentioned in the changelog against the new musicbrainz in ubuntu [12:49] thanks santa_, I guess I'll talk to doko [12:50] for libkcddb you will need patch, it's available in debian's git master [12:51] s/patch/a patch/ [12:56] hmm [12:57] patches are bad m'kay [13:07] but sometimes you need them to avoid ftbfs'ing http://imagebin.ca/v/28bZVFBoBdwW [13:13] nope, upstream should release a hotfix is what should happen [13:16] but in the meantime I had to apply the patch to make it buildable and installable again http://imagebin.ca/v/28bZVFBoBdwW [13:18] the patch in question: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkcddb.git/commit/?id=1caf3cfa80bced172714d64976939bea489e4a45 [14:39] clivejo_: oh and plenty of merges to be done of course [14:39] hi TJ-, do you want to be an elite Kubuntu ninja? [14:42] Riddell: No... just fix some annoying bugs [14:43] oh I'm sure we have plenty of those [14:43] as I say most of our software is from KDE [14:43] stuff like the installed is Kubuntu specific, and the language installer needs ported to kf5 and notification helper is ours and muon is kde's but we're the main user [14:43] I'm going to pull in the KDE next week and see if I can get my head around it, again :) [14:44] s/KDE/KDE development repos/ [14:44] pick something small and see if you can get it to compile [14:45] our stuff https://projects.kde.org/search?projects=1&q=kubuntu [14:46] Compiling isn't a problem, getting my head around how the components interact, and the context/history/direction is. [14:47] all the stuff you don't get taught in university [14:47] don't be afraid to ask [15:40] awooga, ktp gets into release! [16:09] * Riddell out [17:42] kdeconnect 0.8b is available, can we get a update? Shall I file a bug report? [18:09] someone tried it http://www.tuxarena.com/2015/07/qmplay2-gets-a-new-release-mostly-fixes/ ? [18:22] soee: debian is moving towards or away ffmpeg? [18:22] it will use ffmpeg === Don is now known as Guest56275 [18:31] Does smplayer support ffmpeg? [18:50] murthy: Believe mplayer (or mpv) can use both, depends on how you compile it. [18:51] Hmm nevermind I only see the libav useflag. [18:51] murthy: where did you see this ? "kdeconnect 0.8b is available, can we get a update? Shall I file a bug report?" [18:52] clivejo_: commits [18:52] clivejo_: sorry tags [18:53] clivejo_: I am trying to build a deb so I can test [18:58] murthy do you know how to check out the code for 0.8b? [18:59] clivejo_: ya, but I just downloaded a snapshot [18:59] how? [18:59] I tried to download a tarball but there is only one file in it [19:00] clivejo_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/791959/download-a-specific-tag-with-git [19:00] clone and checkout tag [19:00] thanks soee [19:00] yes [19:14] murthy: what is its name? [19:15] previous packages are kdeconnect-kde [19:15] but I can only get it to build as kdeconnect [19:26] clivejo_: kdeconnect-kde is a transitional package so what you have is correct [19:27] murthy: can you get it to build? [19:27] clivejo_: ya, doing that [19:27] my one is failing on network test [19:27] clivejo_: I am able to compile it. finished compiling it. Now I am trying to package it as deb for personal use [19:28] clivejo_: did you install the build dependencies for kdeconnect? [19:28] I thought I had [19:29] clivejo_: you didn't? [19:29] well its failing on testsocketlinereader [19:30] must be misisng something [19:30] clivejo_: you did this right? sudo apt-get build-dep kdeconnect [19:30] clivejo_: also I had to configure the build towards qt4 [19:31] clivejo_: see I am a noob, so take care [19:31] oh this version isnt for plasma 5? [19:31] clivejo_: it is, but during build it is asking for qt4 [20:14] murthy: Im a noob too [20:14] trying to learn how to package [20:14] Great! [20:14] not going so well [20:14] we need more packagers [20:15] clivejo_: no problem, you will learn soon [20:15] someone familar witd nodejs ? [20:15] soee: nope [20:35] anyone know why my nick keeps changing to clivejo_ ? [20:36] what primary nick you have set ? [20:37] thats so weird! [20:38] usually happens when your connection dies and you reconnect immediately [20:38] I was logged into VLC chat [20:38] but it was saying my nick was in use and was changing it [20:41] very strange [20:41] is VLC on Freenode? [20:42] ah [20:42] should be, they were in the past at least [20:43] hola chicxs [20:43] I was connecting via irc.videolan.org [20:44] strange loop back thing going on [20:44] well, irc.ubuntu.com is the same ^^ [20:45] when I logged in via irc.videolan.org it was saying my nick was in use and changing it to clivejo_ [20:46] hi Riddell [20:48] anyone working on the new calligra? [20:48] nope, it's for the taking [20:48] but so are a bunch of merges if that doesn't excite you [20:49] bunch of merges? [20:49] well they might be if merge-o-matic was working https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [20:50] meh [20:50] * clivejo kicks merge-o-matic [20:50] try now [20:53] nope didn't help [20:55] ahh heh [20:56] sgclark: I've updated the docs in kubuntu-automation to point to the new staging-upload script and it working ok for frameworks, what did you have problems with [20:56] the trouble is it's making kci very sad with merges [20:57] right [20:57] so all deps have this ~ at end now. [20:57] = fails [20:57] what deps? [20:57] and I *think* that was main problem [20:58] frameworks [20:58] build dpes [20:58] evidently a maxy change? [20:58] got an example? [20:59] the ~ isn't a bad thing is it? that's because maxy likes to upload versions with a ~ [20:59] we all do, esp. for PPA's. So it is a good idea really [20:59] libkf5coreaddons-dev (>= 5.12.0~), [21:00] why would that fail? [21:00] the merges did [21:00] your asking the wrong person, all I know is I had to manually merge all of kf5 [21:00] great fun [21:01] From a packaging perspective, 5.12.0~ is a great version to have. [21:01] *SIGH* [21:02] sigh? [21:02] can we drop all that CI merging... it's causing more work than it helps :( [21:02] I am sure it is an easy fix... I will look when I have time [21:03] merging from debian definately seems to be more faff that it's worth, at least more than once a cycle [21:04] yay plasma-nm got into wily! [21:05] I can donate a few cycles to packaging although its not my primary objective, if it'll help [21:06] TJ-: we'd always love more packagers [21:06] although many of the problems come from tools not being quite as reliable as they ought to be [21:06] sgclark: will you upload those to the PPA? [21:06] I'm sure; that's why I'm being careful not to get drawn into it too far! [21:07] Does the kubuntu packaging follow the ubuntu development process, using bzr, or is it on a per-package/per-dev-preference basis? [21:08] murthy: did you get kdeconnect packaged? [21:09] TJ-: the big kde releases, frameworks, plasma and applications we package in branches debian's git [21:09] Mmmm git :) [21:09] TJ-: we have a nifty CI to package it every day http://kci.pangea.pub/ [21:09] TJ-: and then we have less nifty scripts to package the tars when they get made [21:10] Riddell: to save you typing... is the process documented someplace? I'm not having much luck finding anything about the CI-train merge process right now [21:10] TJ-: no not really [21:11] ci-train is ubuntu's system I think [21:11] we use kci [21:11] the CI workflow is documented on some kde wiki page, I forgot the URL though [21:11] Riddell: So if I recall correctly, most of the main packages come directly from a Debian merge and rarely carry {k,u}ubuntu specific debian/patch/ additions? [21:12] TJ-: not that rarely, but mostly yes. And we're usually ahead of debian in the versions [21:12] yofel: My search-fu failed on finding it, or else on spotting current practice :) [21:12] packaging is here (mostly) http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ [21:12] some packages are still in bzr like calligra and digikam and others [21:12] yofel: Is the preference to patch in Debian? [21:12] and some aren't in version control at all [21:12] preference is to patch in KDE [21:13] Riddell: Those will be tarball + quilt? [21:14] Riddell: OK, so upstream preferred for cross-distro stuff; how about for Debianised patches, preference Debian, and then I assume Kubuntu for flavour-specific stuff like branding/language ? [21:14] ah, found it: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Merges [21:15] clivejo: ya [21:15] clivejo: going to install [21:15] yofel: Thanks :) [21:15] TJ-: we try not to add our own branding to KDE software, KDE's a brand we want to promote [21:15] Ive installed mine, doesnt fix the file transfer from Android to Kubuntu corrupting the file :) [21:16] clivejo: did you restart after installing ? [21:16] Riddell: yeah I have to git-buildpackage-ppa by hand, will try to finish here in a few. Wily at least. [21:16] yup [21:16] clivejo: I will test and tell you the result [21:16] is there any way to tell which version Im actually running? [21:16] sgclark: nice big bash for loop? or you can just run staging-upload it should work now [21:17] Riddell: what's the intended purpose of staging-upload? [21:17] clivejo: let me see [21:17] Riddell: Maybe I used thw wrong word... not branding, but for example references to Kubuntu rather than Debian in strings/docs and maybe some tools? [21:17] staging upload? [21:18] clivejo: run this kdeconnect-cli --version [21:18] ahh bash script should work if skipping the backport merge [21:18] if you're skipping git on backports, you might as well use my old script... [21:18] murthy: 0.8 [21:18] old script? [21:18] although, the hooks are unmaintained [21:19] clivejo: thats the default one [21:19] kubuntu-batch-backport in automation [21:19] let me see what happens after I install [21:19] clivejo: ^ [21:19] oh I meant just skipping for now. not for good. [21:19] * clivejo rolls eyes, I probably messed the packaging up [21:20] what's my best bet folks, for making a bootable kub. ISO to check out a possible new travel computer? [21:20] in the store I mean, before purchasing [21:20] 15.04 64-bit? [21:21] brb [21:21] running out of time to purchase and fix up such a box [21:23] tool to make it or if you should use 15.04 vs 14.04? [21:24] TJ-: again there shouldn't be many of those, we have the kubuntu-docs packages for docs and kubuntu-settings package for settings [21:25] Riddell: OK, that makes things easier especially for translations :) [21:27] sgclark: well, you need the past changes from git or the hooks to get sane packages out at the end, so either you do the merges or you just run a script that just pulls the existing packages and uploads them to a different release (which is what the old one does) [21:28] Riddell: what's the intended purpose of staging-upload? [21:28] clivejo: I just tested with kdeconnect 0.8b the issue is not fixed. I think I saw a commit, a possible fix for this issue 0.8b tag. Let me check that [21:28] yofel: replaces kubuntu-initial-upload [21:28] why? [21:29] murthy: what is your version showing as? [21:29] yofel: just tidying up the script, removing some of the cruft it's got [21:29] ok [21:29] clivejo: the command shows 0.8 [21:29] oh, so maybe I did package it ok! [21:30] clivejo: the package version is the one I set which is 0.8b [21:30] clivejo: ya [21:30] clivejo: so you know packaging :) [21:30] thats a shame, I was hoping that file corrupting bug was fixed [21:30] sorry not really here. I did not realize I leave Sunday for akademy and have RL to attend to. But I will get wily uploaded by end of day. [21:32] sgclark: don't worry if you can't! [21:32] we should be working out how to build it with gcc 5 [21:33] maybe we should make staging-frameworks depend on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/+packages [21:33] clivejo: I am going to test kdeconnect in the master branch [21:36] murthy: let me know how it goes [21:36] ok [21:41] sgclark: I made staging-frameworks depend on that gcc5 PPA so we know what breaks [21:42] mm ok [21:44] !md5sum [21:44] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [21:59] clivejo: it worked merge-o-matic is back! [21:59] smokekde korundum kactivities kdnssd kwallet need merged [21:59] let me know if you fancy tackling those clivejo, TJ- and need any pointers [22:02] Question re: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Prevent_Merge.2FBuild_Fail ... the example shows using "quilt import " without any context as to where the patch file comes from. Surely if the patch is already in upstream the best approach would be "git cherry-pick --no-commit " followed by "git diff > ../xxx.patch" and *then* "quilt import ../xxx.patch" ? [22:03] (with a "git reset --hard HEAD" to remove the cherry-pick of course) [22:05] TJ-: your git foo might be better than mine :) [22:05] Riddell: :) ... I just felt I came in 1/2 way in reading that... lost the most important part of the context [22:06] TJ-: it's a wiki, feel free to edit :) [22:06] Riddell: I'll make local notes for now until I start actually using the tooling and confirm I'm correct :) [22:13] * Riddell uploads meta-kde-telepathy [22:14] from https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html polkit-qt-1 [22:14] pkg-kde-tools [22:16] and of course lots of non-kde stuff anyone can take [22:37] Riddell: do you know the build dependencies for kdeconnect on frameworks ? I am trying to build from master and its asking for a lot of kf5 libs, installing it one by one is hard. [22:38] murthy: are you building on wily or vivid? [22:38] Riddell: vivid [22:39] is it harmful? [22:39] backports are enabled [22:40] murthy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma is the package currently [22:40] I am stuck here https://paste.kde.org/py13z5gya [22:40] apt-get build-dep kdeconnect-plasma would get them [22:40] oh [22:40] thats nice [22:40] let me try that [22:42] murthy: has there been a release or are you packaging from git? [22:42] Riddell: testing from git branch [22:43] Riddell: just making deb to uninstall easily [22:43] valorie: I used unetbootin to make bootable USBs, but rumour has it that it does not work on UEFI systems. [22:43] murthy: well I think the package could do with an update so if you get it working let me know and I'll get it into the archive for wily [22:44] sure [22:51] * Riddell out === sebas_ is now known as sebas === alket_ is now known as alket