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| Dragonkeeper | hey guys | 00:17 |
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| Dragonkeeper | possible to change themes ? or add support to do so ? only reason i ask is because id like dark/white themes for different times of the day | 00:20 |
| Elleo | popey: nope, keyboard hasn't changed recently other than some autopilot changes a couple of weeks back | 00:21 |
| Elleo | popey: have you tried wiping the screen? I've found the arale can sometimes give bad touch events if there's a bit of grease or something on the screen | 00:21 |
| tathhu | Dragonkeeper: indeed, dark(er) theme would be cool.. | 00:21 |
| Dragonkeeper | white during day and black at night would be nice | 00:22 |
| Dragonkeeper | black and orange would be better :') | 00:22 |
| Elleo | jgdx: you just need a newer version of ubuntu-keyboard than ships in standard (non-overlay) vivid | 00:23 |
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| mah454 | Hello | 06:34 |
| mah454 | I need a document for install ubuntu touch on Meizu MX4 . | 06:34 |
| Knightwork | morning everyone | 06:36 |
| Knightwork | hi everyone | 06:52 |
| Knightwork | do any of you know if there is a good podcast client for Ubuntu Phone ? | 06:52 |
| svij | Knightwork: Podbird | 06:53 |
| Knightwork | svij: does it support subscribing and downloading ? | 06:56 |
| svij | Knightwork: yep | 07:02 |
| Knightwork | Cool. :) Gonna give it a try later on tonight. | 07:02 |
| Knightwork | now all I need is a good audio recorder and i'm set :) | 07:02 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:12 |
| sturmflut2 | dholbach: Morning! | 07:18 |
| dholbach | hi sturmflut2 | 07:20 |
| Knightwork | anyone know if there is a voice recording app on ubuntu touch ? | 07:23 |
| jgdx | Elleo, got it- thanks | 07:52 |
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| popey | Elleo: possible | 08:17 |
| popey | Elleo: filed bug with video anyway | 08:17 |
| davmor2 | popey: have we got to kick you off irc to make you have a holiday? ;) | 08:18 |
| sturmflut2 | Looks like we have to | 08:19 |
| popey | pffft | 08:22 |
| popey | holiday is temporary | 08:22 |
| popey | irc is forever | 08:22 |
| davmor2 | popey: yes so enjoy the temporary thing while it is there, then come back to the forever thing :) | 08:24 |
| Tm_T | what is "holiday?" | 08:24 |
| popey | its the place away from home and work that you connect to irc from | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | popey: irc is work :P | 08:27 |
| Tm_T | popey: I call that "commute" | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | popey: and you filed bugs that's work too :P | 08:27 |
| popey | nah | 08:27 |
| popey | i filed bugs and sat on irc before this job | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | popey: I thought you just had paid hobby | 08:32 |
| sturmflut2 | I hate OpenGL ES so much | 08:33 |
| sturmflut2 | and SDL | 08:33 |
| sturmflut2 | actually, I've never seen a decent graphics API | 08:33 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: I don't believe you, I think you love it really ;) | 08:34 |
| sturmflut2 | davmor2: Ha! Your reverse psychology shenanigans don't work on me! | 08:35 |
| jgdx | use dom and css transitions.. there, fixed | 08:36 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: In plain C? | 08:36 |
| sturmflut2 | At, the "C" in "CSS" stands for "C" | 08:37 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: Look it could be worse, you could be using Windows to develop on those apis ;) | 08:37 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, oh, maybe you have to import webkit. | 08:37 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: It might be faster to write some kind of C-to-JavaScript compiler | 08:38 |
| jgdx | actually, I think the C is for Crazy | 08:38 |
| sturmflut2 | Oh wait, people have done that | 08:38 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, lol yeah maybe | 08:38 |
| sturmflut2 | "C" actually stands for "Portable Assembler" | 08:42 |
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| jgdx | Portable Assembler Style Sheets? | 08:52 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Pandemonium Day! 😃 | 09:07 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: don't tell sturmflut2 it is Panda-monium day | 09:08 |
| sturmflut2 | davmor2: The panda hype is over, mzanetti released a new game and stole all the spotlight | 09:09 |
| JamesTait | Crisis averted! | 09:09 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: if ever there was a day to hype it up though ;) | 09:10 |
| mzanetti | sturmflut2, but you're not special there... I frequently do that to myself too | 09:20 |
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| t1mp | tim@C720:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch --developer-mode --password 0000 --wipe | 10:40 |
| t1mp | WARNING --developer-mode and --password are dangerous as they remove security features from your device | 10:40 |
| t1mp | Get https://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json: x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid | 10:40 |
| t1mp | what's causing that certificate issue? | 10:40 |
| sturmflut2 | t1mp: Hm, the certificate seems valid | 10:51 |
| ogra_ | transparentl proxy ? | 10:52 |
| ogra_ | -l | 10:52 |
| t1mp | ogra_, sturmflut2: somehow my latest dist-upgrade completely messed up the clock for my laptop | 10:57 |
| t1mp | I guess that's causing the cert issue | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | ah, yeah, that would do it | 10:58 |
| t1mp | hmm.. and I cannot fix the clock :s it all the time goes back to the year 2050 | 10:59 |
| t1mp | and setting the timezone doesn't work | 10:59 |
| t1mp | yikes | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com | 11:00 |
| ogra_ | try that | 11:00 |
| ogra_ | (though probably the delta is to big) | 11:00 |
| t1mp | 5 Jan 20:07:44 ntpdate[3164]: Can't adjust the time of day: Invalid argument | 11:01 |
| ogra_ | well, i guess your best option is the BIOS then | 11:02 |
| morphis | ogra_: do you know when /data/.last_update should be updated, only when OTA is applied or also on userdata format? | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | morphis, only on OTA | 11:07 |
| morphis | ogra_: then, recovery is buggy here too | 11:07 |
| morphis | ogra_: as right now it touches it everytime the system-image-upgrader runs regardless if really updating or not | 11:08 |
| ogra_ | well, the upgrader only gets triggered when an OTA sits in /cache | 11:08 |
| ogra_ | it shouldnt run unconditional | 11:09 |
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| morphis | ogra_: that is not true, it only gets triggered when you reset the device | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | well, it should only run if there is any upgrade to apply | 11:13 |
| ogra_ | else it shoudl no-op | 11:13 |
| morphis | that is true when the command file passed in as argument doesn't exist | 11:14 |
| morphis | then it depends on which commands are in that file | 11:14 |
| ogra_ | well, there shouldnt be any commands file usually and a normal "reboot recovery" should always only get you into recovery mode | 11:15 |
| morphis | right | 11:15 |
| ogra_ | while ... if the file exists, it should run the upgrader and reboot at the end | 11:15 |
| morphis | but when the user wants to reset his device the system write a command file with "format data" and nothing else | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | the file should only exist when s-i-client did put it in place though | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | ah, indeed | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | but the command file cant exist unconditionally (usually) its either s-i or the reset function | 11:17 |
| morphis | right | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | the point is that the reset function actually only triggers a reset | 11:17 |
| morphis | but I doubt that the .last_update file should be touch in that case, right? | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | if there is any code that creates dirs and the like, i doubt it will run | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | that fine should only be touched on actual upgardes | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | *file | 11:17 |
| ogra_ | btw, i added some commentss to your spreadsheet | 11:18 |
| morphis | ogra_: yeah thanks! saw them | 11:18 |
| morphis | ogra_: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/11877151/ | 11:18 |
| ogra_ | i think we should consider keeping the files that make the device HW identifyable | 11:18 |
| ogra_ | looks good on first glance :) | 11:19 |
| morphis | yeah added them already | 11:19 |
| morphis | still testing if that works and we can now easily extend the list as we go | 11:19 |
| morphis | however the variable might get bigger and bigger over time | 11:19 |
| morphis | maybe worth to put those into a file later | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | you should delete the tmpdir at the end | 11:19 |
| morphis | ah right | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | you should also ask the android guys if there is any data that needs to be preserved in the android writable space (IMEI or such) ... i doubt it ... but just to be sure | 11:21 |
| morphis | yeah good point | 11:22 |
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| sturmflut2 | 385 panda lovers served ;) But one bad review :( | 11:57 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: get used to it someone will always complain :( | 12:00 |
| sturmflut2 | davmor2: Yeah, people are the worst | 12:02 |
| sturmflut2 | But I got SDL2 and OpenGL ES 2.0 working in the meantime! | 12:02 |
| sturmflut2 | On both the desktop and the phone | 12:02 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: | 12:04 |
| sturmflut2 | Now that was cryptic | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | that was interesting how did that happen | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | ah hit enter instead of delete sorry :) | 12:05 |
| sturmflut2 | Ah, popey finally went to have a beer at the pool ;) https://plus.google.com/+AlanPope/posts/T12JqiJK4qm | 12:09 |
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| sturmflut2 | davmor2: Any chances that the emulator is fixed soon? We have an event coming up and a working emulator will be necessary | 12:38 |
| davmor2 | john-mcaleely: ^ | 12:40 |
| FrankZappa | Hi there | 12:40 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: I only break things not really the person to ask if they will be fixed ;) | 12:41 |
| FrankZappa | could someone point me to a link explaining how to fully backup my ubuntu phone () | 12:43 |
| FrankZappa | aquaris 4.5 | 12:43 |
| davmor2 | FrankZappa: there is no official backup process | 12:47 |
| FrankZappa | Ok, so i can stop making me crazy in searching and start developing my own soluzion ;-} | 12:48 |
| FrankZappa | see ya | 12:49 |
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| john-mcaleely | sturmflut2, davmor2 I'll be honest, I don't have anyone assigned to that. the list above it is long | 12:55 |
| sturmflut2 | john-mcaleely: Okay, then we at least have to find out what's the most recent image that still works, hopefully it's up topar with at least OTA-4 | 12:57 |
| sturmflut2 | up to par | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: rtm last image | 12:58 |
| pmcgowan | john-mcaleely, sorry I got disconnected, whats the issue with the emulator? | 12:58 |
| john-mcaleely | yeah, sorry | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: it doesn't boot | 12:58 |
| pmcgowan | davmor2, since vivid? | 12:59 |
| pmcgowan | I feel like I missed a memo | 12:59 |
| pmcgowan | davmor2, got a bug? | 12:59 |
| sturmflut2 | pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1467865 | 12:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1467865 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Emulator is not working image 157+" [High,Confirmed] | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1458694 | 13:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1458689 in mir (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1458694 [vivid-overlay] Servers can't start - input-stub.so fails to load on i386" [Critical,Confirmed] | 13:00 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: latter one is the actual cause iirc from rsalveti | 13:01 |
| pmcgowan | yep seems to be some confusion if a fix was made or not | 13:01 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: I tried emulator in the testing on friday it was still broken then | 13:01 |
| pmcgowan | anpok_, any knowledge of that one ^^ | 13:01 |
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| anpok_ | pmcgowan: hmm | 13:05 |
| * tathhu f5 on usp's tracking page, rip. | 13:07 | |
| anpok_ | i think input-stub being there and not being upgraded is not the cause.. | 13:09 |
| * tathhu usp, usp every time. Too much counter-strike :( | 13:09 | |
| anpok_ | pmcgowan: that message means i tried to load the input-stub.so which is a testing utility (lacking a mirclient dependency) as a graphics module, after that it loads the right graphics module and continues.. | 13:11 |
| anpok_ | .. at least afairc | 13:11 |
| pmcgowan | anpok_, can you comment in the bug and recommend next steps | 13:13 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: you can of course use snappy desktop which would at least give a phone-esque demo ability maybe? | 13:13 |
| jgdx | tathhu, silenced or not silenced | 13:22 |
| tathhu | jgdx: silenced ofc | 13:24 |
| tathhu | jgdx: or p2000 :P | 13:24 |
| jgdx | :) | 13:28 |
| jgdx | tathhu, I used to play without because I liked the 1.6 sound | 13:31 |
| seb128 | jgdx, do you know if bug #1464466 has to do with settings or not? | 13:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1464466 in nuntium (Ubuntu) "messaging-app SIM preference ignored for MMS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464466 | 13:41 |
| jgdx | seb128, if the setting is correct for sms it has nothing to do with Settings. | 13:42 |
| jgdx | unless there's a need for an MMS setting | 13:43 |
| tathhu | jgdx: usp too op w/o helmet :( | 13:46 |
| seb128 | jgdx, k, so the current setting doesn't command mms? maybe it should? | 13:47 |
| jgdx | seb128, maybe? This isn't even in the spec. Hidden in a gdoc somewhere :| I'll add ubuntu-ux to the bug. | 13:49 |
| seb128 | jgdx, thanks | 13:49 |
| abeato | Laney, it looks like arm builds are enabled for some packages in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ww, but it is failing at it | 13:50 |
| tathhu | (telegram under ddos again? :() | 13:51 |
| Laney | abeato: perhaps it fails in the virtualised builders | 13:51 |
| Laney | do you need to try it now? | 13:52 |
| abeato | Laney, I'd like too as I already have the patch compiling for x86 | 13:52 |
| Laney | abeato: ok, do you have access to the ppa:canonical-arm-dev/ppa? | 13:52 |
| * abeato checking | 13:53 | |
| Laney | I can try to build it there | 13:53 |
| abeato | Laney, no I don't think I have access there | 13:54 |
| * Laney summons ogra_ | 13:54 | |
| abeato | Laney, ah, I'm actually a member | 13:55 |
| abeato | I guess I can dput there then | 13:55 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/~canonical-arm-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/7651608 | 13:56 |
| Laney | probably want that to finish first | 13:56 |
| Laney | and base too? | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | yeah, abeato is member | 13:56 |
| Laney | k | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | nothing to do for me | 13:56 |
| Laney | sorry for the false summoning | 13:56 |
| Laney | but nice to see you | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | lol | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | all good :) | 13:56 |
| abeato | haha | 13:57 |
| abeato | Laney, yeah base too | 13:57 |
| matv1 | Telegram now down completely. Who is doing this again? | 14:04 |
| sturmflut2 | matv1: Shouldn't it just affect Asia and the Pacific? | 14:08 |
| matv1 | sturmflut2 thats what I was hearing but my service has been hit and miss for last few days. And as of this afternoon none at all | 14:10 |
| tathhu | Not working in Finalnd :( | 14:10 |
| matv1 | you're still okay sturmflut2 ? | 14:11 |
| balloons | ping zyga | 14:11 |
| sturmflut2 | matv1: I've been using Telegram Web across Europe for the last two weeks, sometimes it takes a bit to send a message or very seldomly disconnects for a couple of minutes, but overall it still works great | 14:12 |
| mariogrip | telegram is very slow today... | 14:59 |
| mariogrip | in norway | 14:59 |
| mariogrip | ahoneybun: Thanks :D | 15:00 |
| ahoneybun | yep :) | 15:01 |
| ahoneybun | I see you got sound working fully | 15:01 |
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| jgdx | Elleo, nicely done :) | 15:05 |
| Elleo | jgdx: thanks, I'm not entirely sure what I've done well, but I'll accept the praise anyway ;) | 15:08 |
| Elleo | oh, the keyboard bug thing? | 15:08 |
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| kenvandine | jgdx, i've confirmed the failure in changing SIM names isn't related to libqofono, it's bug 1474444 | 15:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1474444 in ubuntu-keyboard "OSK does not appear during autopilot tests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474444 | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | it's actually not raising the OSK | 15:53 |
| Elleo | kenvandine, jgdx: I seem to remember the being an autopilot bug mentioned the other week, where autopilot's fake keyboard stuff causes unity to think there's a physical keyboard (and so the OSK gets supressed) | 15:59 |
| Elleo | that might be related | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, sounds probable | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | rhuddie, ^^ | 16:00 |
| Elleo | I think I saw it mentioned in a mailinglist post, just trying to find it | 16:00 |
| Elleo | ah, no maybe that was about mouse pointers | 16:01 |
| Elleo | at least that's the only post I can see that's related | 16:01 |
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| Elleo | kenvandine, jgdx, rhuddie: maybe try checking 'gsettings get com.canonical.keyboard.maliit stay-hidden', if that's set to true it means the keyboard is being told to stay hidden because unity thinks there's a physical keyboard attached | 16:03 |
| Elleo | (probably need to check whilst the autopilot tests are running) | 16:03 |
| rhuddie | Elleo, interesting, I'll check | 16:03 |
| rhuddie | Elleo, kenvandine, jgdx, yes. when the test is running, that returns true. when the test is finished it returns false. | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | so what's setting that? | 16:06 |
| Elleo | unity will be setting it I think | 16:08 |
| Elleo | and it does it based on a check for physical keyboards | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | so the fake keyboard triggers it | 16:08 |
| Elleo | and presumably something autopilot does makes it think there's a physical keyboard | 16:08 |
| Elleo | yeah | 16:08 |
| rhuddie | Elleo, kenvandine, this sounds similar to the problem where unity launched in windowed mode because autopilot exposed a fake mouse | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | yup | 16:12 |
| Elleo | yeah | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | hmmm | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | the restart dialog isn't showing up when pressing the power button on wily | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | anyone on wily willing to try to reproduce? | 16:22 |
| jgdx | Elleo, I was commending you on the mallit crash troubleshooting :) | 16:24 |
| Elleo | jgdx: ah, right; thanks :) | 16:25 |
| Isotop7 | anyone else got problems with not launching keyboard after a while of usage on arale? it happened to me several times without having a pattern...only reboot helps... | 17:36 |
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| TonyBoston | hi | 19:46 |
| TonyBoston | what are you guys using as email app? | 20:03 |
| dobey | there is Dekko in the store | 20:04 |
| dobey | or you can use a webapp for verious webmail services | 20:05 |
| tathhu | dekko seemed to load forever with fastmail :( | 20:05 |
| tathhu | gotta try again when i get my e5 :P | 20:06 |
| TonyBoston | thing is, I have an exchange account | 20:06 |
| dobey | oh | 20:07 |
| TonyBoston | so I'd like to have calendars, contacts, notes and mail | 20:08 |
| dobey | i don't think there are any apps that can do exchange | 20:09 |
| TonyBoston | too bad | 20:09 |
| praxy | maybe something like Mailpile could work | 20:11 |
| praxy | haven't tried it yet | 20:11 |
| dobey | well, mailpile would only do mail even if it supported exchange, i guess | 20:11 |
| praxy | sorry didn't mean specifically for exchange :) | 20:12 |
| dobey | well, TonyBoston is specifically asking about exchange :) | 20:14 |
| TonyBoston | could be something that is able to use ews | 20:14 |
| TonyBoston | exchange web access | 20:14 |
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| praxy | might be missing something, but how does the copy/paste work from the browser? | 20:24 |
| praxy | e.g. how to copy the password here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=password+strong+40 | 20:24 |
| anpok_ | praxy: long press over the password string and with some luck the copy rectangle hits just the password string.. | 20:30 |
| anpok_ | then just select copy and go to the destination app... | 20:30 |
| anpok_ | hmm when I tried it here it also copied " password 20 characters - high strength" | 20:31 |
| praxy | anpok_: thanks got it to work | 20:32 |
| praxy | it's weird it didn't align properly over the text, but it still copied fine | 20:33 |
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| praxy | Seems like my E5 HD crashed | 21:17 |
| praxy | now stuck on bq logo | 21:17 |
| praxy | factory reset I guess ? | 21:17 |
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