[00:00] <Pateru> EriC^^: like once it loads on reset it wont' see it again
[00:00] <bubbasaures> mach20x, You might try ##hardware
[00:01] <EriC^^> Pateru: what do you mean?
[00:03] <Pateru> EriC^^: I may be wrong, is like once it loads an os there when I reboot the pc acts like is on eufi mode but is on legacy but is not my mobo I don't know this may all be wrong anyway
[00:03] <Pateru> EriC^^: on windows it seems it everytime though
[00:04] <EriC^^> it's ok
[00:05] <Pateru> EriC^^: should I paste that command again?
[00:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:05] <Pateru> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11875082/
[00:05] <EriC^^> Pateru: sudo mount /dev/sdg3 /mnt
[00:06] <Pateru> ok
[00:06] <Pateru> EriC^^: k
[00:06] <EriC^^> Pateru: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:06] <cofo> when i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install XYZ i'm receive: Bus error (core dumped)
[00:08] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[00:08] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[00:09] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[00:10] <EriC^^> type grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[00:11] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[00:11] <EriC^^> does it say MODULES=most ?
[00:12] <Pateru> EriC^^: yes
[00:13] <EriC^^> ok, type update-initramfs -vu -k all |& nc termbin.com 9999
[00:14] <adalberto> Hello
[00:14] <adalberto> I have a problem
[00:14] <adalberto> I have a laptop with dual boot (ubuntu and windows)
[00:14] <adalberto> Windows asked me for a update
[00:15] <adalberto> and when I restarted it it starts only in windows
[00:15] <Pateru> EriC^^: here is the link http://termbin.com/tzbt
[00:15] <adalberto> And The grup doesn't appear...
[00:16] <EriC^^> Pateru: type lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:16] <adalberto> Which is the best way of recover my ubuntu and or my files
[00:16] <adalberto> ?
[00:16] <EriC^^> adalberto: use a live usb to reinstall grub
[00:16] <Pateru> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/irkl
[00:17] <adalberto> Eric, is the live usb the same iso that when I installed ubuntu?
[00:18] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, type exit
[00:18] <EriC^^> adalberto: yes
[00:18] <Pateru> EriC^^: done
[00:18] <TJ-> EriC^^: Did you see "uas" ?
[00:18] <EriC^^> TJ-: didn't check, just usbhid let me see
[00:18] <adalberto> Eric: Thanks can I use it with a DVD or I have to use it in a usb?
[00:19] <TJ-> EriC^^: USB Attached SCSI ... and it's not on the initrd list
[00:19] <EriC^^> i tried looking for usb_storage on my system couldn't find any module named that
[00:19] <EriC^^> aha i see
[00:19] <EriC^^> Pateru: type sudo chroot /mnt
[00:20] <TJ-> EriC^^: If that USB device isn't a Flash thumb drive, but a proper SCSI, then uas will be needed and explains why it failed
[00:20] <EriC^^> adalberto: dvd works too
[00:20] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[00:20] <adalberto> Eric: Good... Can you please send me web page where I can find step by step how to do it?
[00:21] <EriC^^> Pateru: type echo uas | tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[00:22] <EriC^^> adalberto: follow from step 6 onwards https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[00:22] <Pateru> EriC^^: it says uas only
[00:23] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, type update-initramfs -vu -k all |& nc termbin.com 9999
[00:23] <Pateru> ok
[00:23] <Bashing-om> adalberto: Another : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 <-drs305 HOWTO: Purge and Reinstall Grub 2 from the Live CD (chroot) .
[00:25] <Pateru> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/yp1r
[00:25] <adalberto> Eric: Thanks I found a software called "rescatux", do you know how good is that?
[00:28] <EriC^^> adalberto: i don't know anything about it, but doing it manually is easy
[00:28] <adalberto> Eric: Thanks I'll try Is it good idea to use "boot-repair"?
[00:28] <TJ-> EriC^^: It looks like the Live ISO is using a 3.15+ kernel (which is where UAS was added), but the target kernel (3.13) doesn't have that module
[00:29] <TJ-> EriC^^: which might be why the thing failed after removing the HWE
[00:29] <EriC^^> adalberto: i think manually you can get to the bottom of it more and it's pretty easy
[00:30] <adalberto> thanks... ;)
[00:30] <EriC^^> TJ-: nah, i think it failed first then i tried removing the kernel thinking maybe .efi.signed had any business with it :>
[00:31] <EriC^^> TJ-: should he use the hwe though anyways?
[00:31] <EriC^^> adalberto: no problem, if you need anything feel free to ask here
[00:32] <adalberto> thanks I'll try to do it connected here...
[00:32] <TJ-> EriC^^: To support that PC, yes, if UAS is required to read that USB device. maybe the host dmesg will make it clear that's why UAS was loaded
[00:33] <TJ-> And now I'm really gone :)
[00:35] <EriC^^> Pateru: type apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[00:35] <Apachez_> I fail to locate, how do I remove unwanted getty's in 14.04 LTS ?
[00:36] <in_deep_thought> ahhhhhhh, I just bought an entirely new usb, this one was formated as FAT-32 and it still doesn’t show up in the UEFI boot menu
[00:36] <Apachez_> ahh there they were hiding, within /etc/init/
[00:39] <Pateru> EriC^^: done
[00:40] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, type exit
[00:40] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Will Pateru also require the libs and xserver for HWE ?
[00:41] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: which libs and xserver?
[00:41] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[00:42] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ?? sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty // this for trusty vice utopic .
[00:42] <EriC^^> Pateru: Bashing-om hmm, we didn't remove those earlier
[00:43] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: should he have those but with lts-utopic instead?
[00:43] <Pateru> EriC^^: no what are those
[00:43] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Just a reminder as I look over your shoulder . :)
[00:43] <EriC^^> Pateru: type sudo chroot /mnt
[00:43] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: :)
[00:44] <Pateru> EriC^^: again?
[00:44] <Pateru> EriC^^: sorry
[00:44] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok lol
[00:44] <EriC^^> :D
[00:44] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep lts-utopic | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:44] <bindi> hi, what's the best way to do raid0 when installing ubuntu (and ubuntu alone) on the system? fakeraid, zfs/btrfs, something else?
[00:45] <Pateru> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ngyt
[00:46] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, looks good
[00:46] <EriC^^> Pateru: type exit, then try rebooting
[00:47] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok this should do it
[00:48] <OerHeks> bindi, raid0 ? on a single hdd?
[00:48] <bindi> ... no?
[00:50] <OerHeks> bindi, why raid0 anyway? JBOD is just as safe as normal partitioning
[00:54] <bindi> because speed
[00:54] <bindi> you're not being helpful, by the way
[00:54] <bazhang> !raid | bindi have a read
[00:54] <OerHeks> on, never noticed raid0 is faster than non-raid.
[00:59] <bindi> does the ubuntu installer for 15.04 have any gui for creating a sw raid?
[01:00] <bindi> or do i need to get a server edition
[01:00] <kajo> Going insane here. Can't fix sound. Used to work. changed some settings to fix skype. Skype was fixed! Everything worked! Then, restarted... and nothing works. Not skype, and pulseaudio can't start. think it has to do with nvidia stuff... skype was originally fixed by changing library for libGL.so.1
[01:02] <kajo> been working on this for hours. only thing I noticed was that my computer was stuck on the nvidia drivers, whereas I had had those turned off and had bumblebee working (at least, that was the state I believe it was in.).
[01:03] <OerHeks> bindi,  it is all answered in the url bazhang posted, you need to setup from live mode
[01:04] <bindi> ?
[01:05] <kajo> help desperately needed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/648069/if-i-fix-skype-according-to-another-au-thread-my-systems-sound-breaks-on-resta
[01:05] <bindi> it's really not
[01:05] <bindi> the first link is for ubuntu server
[01:05] <kajo> even just someone pointing me in the right direction, I've hit a dead end.
[01:05] <bindi> the last link is outdated
[01:06] <ablest1980> cool here got ac on
[01:06] <ablest1980> my room is 63 degree f
[01:06] <in_deep_thought> PRAISE BE TO ALLAH! apparently there is a difference between using the front and back usb ports when you are trying to boot from usb. who knew?? not this guy
[01:07] <treeprogram> anyone use duplicity to encrypt their files?
[01:11] <smoking-peanuts>  I am having issues with compiz and nouveau . If I use nvidia driver(older version) then works ok
[01:16] <pavila> Hello everybody
[01:28] <patero> Eric are you still here?
[01:28] <Finetundra> is there anyway to install unity without the login screen? I'd like to keep the default for this flavor
[01:29] <patero> Im chatting from my dumbphone
[01:29] <Finetundra> or any DE for that matter?
[01:32] <gagalicious> any macro scheduler equivalent for ubuntu 14.04? record mouse clicks and keyboard keys to automate deployment of software?
[01:32] <gagalicious> any macro scheduler equivalent for ubuntu 14.04? record mouse clicks and keyboard keys to automate opening of application on my desktop?
[01:33] <BuzzardBuzz> like you can use cron to run applications
[01:33] <bubbasaures> Finetundra, You can autologin
[01:33] <BuzzardBuzz> and there is a web admin tool to do it with a fancy gui also
[01:34] <Finetundra> bubbasaures: what do you mean?
[01:34] <bubbasaures> really?
[01:35] <bubbasaures> straight to desktop Finetundra
[01:35] <Finetundra> I don't want to skip the login screen, I want to not replace it with the default that unity tends to install and keep the default kubuntu one but still install unity
[01:37] <BuzzardBuzz> usually the logins are part of the desktop manager software, you likely get what comes with your choice i think
[01:38] <Finetundra> I want this: https://goo.gl/53MgDx not this: https://goo.gl/pl1Qdy
[01:38] <bubbasaures> not hard, personally I would have to search as you would Finetundra is all
[01:38] <Finetundra> but still to install unity
[01:38] <BuzzardBuzz> you want to have your cake and eat it too, i hope you can find it
[01:38] <OerHeks> Finetundra, " sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth  "  / http://askubuntu.com/questions/599567/getting-ubuntus-default-splash-screen-back-after-kde-installation-removal
[01:39] <leftea> Ubuntu 15.04 - my cursor will sometimes disappear and I have to restart or run `sudo service lightdm force-reload` to fix it. Is there a more optimal solution that can just restart the mouse cursor itself?
[01:44] <aeon-ltd> leftea: afaik the cursor is handled by X, unless the problem can be solved without restarting X then i believe you are out of luck
[01:44] <AndroidHacker> leftea, what video drivers
[01:45] <Finetundra> can someone tell me how to use kwin on lxde?
[01:45] <AndroidHacker> theres cursor problems with nvidia-346 leftea
[01:45] <AndroidHacker> but this might not be the same thing, and maybe it might
[01:46] <Finetundra> leftea: how many displays do you have?
[01:47] <BuzzardBuzz> Just edit lxde configuration file and replace openbox-lxde with kwin. Finetundra :)
[01:48] <Finetundra> BuzzardBuzz: I don't have to add anything extra?
[01:48] <BuzzardBuzz> i found that info in an article you might want to read
[01:49] <BuzzardBuzz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/211291/using-lxde-with-kwin-window-manager
[01:50] <BuzzardBuzz> personally i realy like LXDE alot :)
[01:50] <AndroidHacker> lxde.. ew
[01:50] <BuzzardBuzz> and i just use autologin also
[01:51] <BuzzardBuzz> so i never even see a lonin screen
[01:51] <BuzzardBuzz> login*
[01:54] <Finetundra> I perfer to have a login screen, and I have come across that artical, I just wanted to back check with you guys
[01:55] <BuzzardBuzz> the default login screen for LXDE is not very nice looking so i can see why you would want to improve that
[01:56] <Finetundra> BuzzardBuzz: I think I said kubuntu above didn't I?
[02:02] <stubbZ> with xfce desktop, what was the key combo to switch workspaces?
[02:05] <adalberto> Eric: I already recovered ubuntu, the problem was that Windows was the first option in boot priority... I put it in the last position and it worked... Maybe Windows updated the bios and it put itself in the first option... :D
[02:06] <jujugoboom> Does anyone here know how to get the Sound Blaster Recon3di working with ubuntu 15.04. Im having no luck with google
[02:08] <Honeyclaw> stubbZ: you might try ctl+alt and the left/right arrow keys
[02:16] <Finetundra> how would one logout of a desktop session with the terminal?
[02:21] <typesquid> quit
[02:25] <plytro> sudo service lightdm restart
[02:31] <Unknown-User> I keep getting this message  http://imagebin.ca/v/28YSpTAA8bvU  any advice?
[02:31] <Unknown-User> I can only find S2TC packages in the manager.
[02:32] <xangua> !mint | Unknown-User or try steam forums
[02:40] <gfredericks> does anybody know how to get ~/.XCompose to be paid attention to?
[02:40] <linuxuz3r> does user settings in thunderbird gets backed up
[02:41] <linuxuz3r> does it save it to home folder
[02:41] <gfredericks> I suppose I should try editing /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose directly first
[02:42] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, .thunderbird/profiles.ini
[02:42] <linuxuz3r> so when i uninstall ubuntu but i have saved the home folder
[02:42] <linuxuz3r> and install ubuntu and use the saved homefolder
[02:43] <linuxuz3r> i will have settings for my thunderbird email client
[02:43] <linuxuz3r> or do i have to set it up again
[02:44] <xangua> linuxuz3r: if you have a separate home folder and configure your account with your same username, all files should be there
[02:44] <bubbasaures> linuxuz3r, Remove the Thunderbird in the install in home if there, and replace with your backup
[02:44] <xangua> separate home directory*
[02:44] <linuxuz3r> ok
[02:46] <mrbigdickvickers> hey everyone check out my beats site at http://ottobeats.gudinna.com for the best beats of all time. if you need production hit me up on twitter @ Otto Ranby
[02:50] <Finetundra> is it possible to install xfce without xfwm or changing the way light dm is configured?
[02:50] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, more details?  what configs are you trying to retain?
[02:51] <Finetundra> I'm trying to retain the lightdm style that is default with kubuntu but i'd like to install xfce but use kwin
[02:53] <Finetundra> but if xfwm doesn't affect anything outside xfce then I'm fine with xfwm, but I really want to retein the light dm config
[02:53] <BuzzardBuzz> Install Kwin 3D effects in XFCE has a utube video
[02:55] <xangua>  Finetundra yes, you can configure light dm and set it to the unity theme
[02:55] <Finetundra> well, I don't want that either, as I said I'd like to retain the kubuntu default theme
[02:56] <BuzzardBuzz> [SOLVED] Kwin in XFCE4 (or LXDE) has an article also
[02:56] <xangua> then use the kubuntu theme
[02:58] <Finetundra> xangua: will installing xfce automatically change the theme. and where is/ how do I set the light dm theme for kubuntu
[02:58] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter
[03:07] <Kali_Yug1> what is mono is that like wine???
[03:09] <OerHeks> Kali_Yug1, some say yes, others say yes, but better
[03:24] <Guest89357> hello everyone!
[03:26] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: It is similar. as I understand it works for .NET based programs, specifically .NET 3 and under but I myself have had some success with .NET 4 stuff
[03:30] <rindo> Good morning gentlemen, I have made a live usb stick, I inserted the disk into a windows 8.1 machine it told me that the disk had errors, afraid that it might hurt my live ubuntu usb, I did not run chkdsk of windows, instead booted to the usb, scaned the usb for defects and now it tells me two files are curropt on it.
[03:30] <rindo> is there a way for me to fix these corrupt files?
[03:30] <Kali_Yug1> would re-copy help?
[03:31] <rindo> how do you mean? make a new usb?
[03:31] <rindo> from the start?
[03:31] <Finetundra> rindo: what do you mean by disk, the usb?
[03:31] <rindo> yes
[03:31] <rindo> the usb itself
[03:31] <rindo> now hard disk
[03:31] <rindo> it is a live usb
[03:31] <Finetundra> and you let win "fix" it?
[03:31] <Kali_Yug1> ^^
[03:32] <Kali_Yug1> lol
[03:32] <rindo> and I have a lot of information and stuff and a couple of passwords on it
[03:32] <rindo> no i did not let windows touch it
[03:32] <Finetundra> was it a persisant live usb?
[03:32] <rindo> I did not run windows fix, cause I was afraid it might hurt the drive more
[03:32] <Kali_Yug1> can U boot over live-usb?
[03:32] <rindo> yes a persistant
[03:32] <rindo> yes I can boot to the usb
[03:32] <rindo> but the system itself does not boot
[03:33] <rindo> only the grub page
[03:33] <Kali_Yug1> hmm that shouldn't happen
[03:33] <bubbasaures> rindo, usb's with a persistent fill up, check it's not full.
[03:33] <rindo> and I can run the utility to check the files
[03:33] <Finetundra> ok, try booting a seperate live usb and copy off anything impotant and remake it
[03:33] <Finetundra> what bubbasauressaid
[03:33] <rindo> you mean a live usb from the start Finetundra ?
[03:33] <Kali_Yug1> which OS are u trying to install ?
[03:34] <Finetundra> a seperate one from the issue one
[03:34] <Finetundra> yes
[03:35] <rindo> That means for me to forget a lot of applications that I already have on this stick... I have downloaded about 4 GB of software on this one, I can't possibly afford downloading such ammount of application again m8
[03:35]  * Finetundra sighs
[03:35] <rindo> any ways to find which files are curropt?
[03:35] <rindo> cause after the utility finds the files it want to restart the system
[03:35] <rindo> without telling me which files are curropt
[03:36] <cfhowlett> rindo, corrupt .iso are not to be messed with.  use .torrent to get the ubuntu .iso, NOT direct downloads.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !torrent | rindo
[03:36] <rindo> bubbasaures : it has about 3 GB of free space on it
[03:37] <rindo> cfhowlett : the iso itself is absultely fine
[03:37] <rindo> it is on my pc
[03:37] <rindo> and sha256 and everythig seems ligit. only my live usb is damaged
[03:38] <Finetundra> rindo: wait a minute, did you happen to scan the thing from windows?
[03:38] <cfhowlett> rindo, "fine" = you actually verified with md5sum.
[03:38] <rindo> Finetundra : no, no windows scan
[03:38] <cfhowlett> rindo, and if the live USB is damaged you make a new one.
[03:38] <Finetundra> what did you scan it from then?
[03:39] <rindo> Finetundra : I booted the system from the usb stick that has ubuntu on it, and then ran the check file utility on the boot screen
[03:39] <rindo> from ubuntu itself
[03:39] <rindo> should I scan by windows?
[03:39] <rindo> chkdsk?
[03:39] <Finetundra> ok, no probably not
[03:40] <Finetundra> don't let windows touch
[03:40] <rindo> is there a way to know which files are damaged?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | rindo verify 1. the .iso you downloaded then 2. the USB
[03:40] <Finetundra> cfhowlett: um, I don't believe that's the issue
[03:40] <rindo> cfhowlett : I totally know that myself, and I know how to make a new usb, but I have some info on the present usb that I can't afford to lose m8
[03:41] <cfhowlett> rindo, I misread the issue.  sorry.  seems Finetundra has great advice for you!
[03:41] <rindo> np
[03:41]  * cfhowlett goes back to lurking
[03:42] <Finetundra> well, how deeply configured are each of the programs?
[03:43] <rindo> mostly just eithr installed fromm the ubuntu softwqare center, or simply compiled by myself and installed
[03:43] <rindo> not deeply configured, at least that is what I know
[03:43] <Finetundra> cause if there's not any too terribly in depth config's you could just use a command to list all the programs
[03:43] <Kali_Yug1> can you not just simply store your data you need on a different device and re-copy it on your finished Os??
[03:44] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: he's been saying that there's some programs that he really wants/needs and doesn't want to refigure out
[03:44] <rindo> Kali_Yug1 : yes I can, probably I will endup doing this, just backing up my few impo  docemntsand then make a whole new usb live ubuntu, and install everything from the start
[03:45] <Finetundra> rindo: wait, I thought you said that there were programs that you needed?
[03:45] <rindo> guys just tell me this and I will be out of your hair, is there a file to get the utility that checks the files to tell me which files exactly are curropt?
[03:46] <rindo> Finetundra : yes, there are software that I would love to keep, cause I have downloaded about 4 GB of data
[03:46] <rindo> But I sense that it might not be likely for me to revive this usb stick
[03:46] <Finetundra> rindo: I think this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/433609/how-can-i-list-all-applications-installed-in-my-system
[03:47] <Finetundra> yeah, I don't know about a file checking utility.
[03:47] <rindo> ok
[03:48] <rindo> is this a usual thing with presistent usb sticks?
[03:48] <rindo> does this happen regularly I mean, or am I the first one?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> neither the first nor the last ...
[03:48] <rindo> cause if this is the case I might stop usung ubuntu this way.
[03:49] <bubbasaures> rindo, Your about the billionth
[03:49] <rindo> it is just I feel at ease when I have my ubuntu in my pocket
[03:49] <Finetundra> rindo thi maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823509
[03:49] <bubbasaures> I feel the same with my cigs
[03:50] <rindo> ok
[03:50] <rindo> thanks everyone, I am going to start from the scratch
[03:51] <bubbasaures> rindo, You can have a persistent partition casper-rw as big as you want.
[03:56] <k1mmyyy> hi guys, can anyone recommend an audio player for ubuntu that's kinda like amarok, but without the shitty bugs of amarok?
[03:56] <k1mmyyy> i like having my music library, and being able to drag albums and such to create a temporary playlist
[03:56] <Finetundra> clementine
[03:56] <Finetundra> parole media player might also work
[03:56] <cfhowlett> k1mmyyy, 1.  language.  clean & family friendly.  2.  multiple choices ; see the software center.
[03:57] <Finetundra> but that's mush less like amarok
[03:57] <Finetundra> much*
[03:57] <k1mmyyy> sorry, i didn't know
[03:57] <OerHeks> clementine handles big library's pretty fine, like no other
[03:57] <k1mmyyy> does clementine have the playlist thing though?
[03:57] <xangua> k1mmyyy: clementine
[03:57] <Finetundra> yes
[03:57] <k1mmyyy> cool, i'll check it out
[03:58] <OerHeks> .. and has got an equaliser
[03:58] <Finetundra> it's supposed to be like old amarok or something right?
[03:58] <k1mmyyy> i used amarok solely in my arch days but it was so hilariously buggy
[03:59] <Finetundra> yeah, clementine will probably work, I eblieve another good one is tomahawk is also supposed to be good but it's supposdly more itunes like
[04:00] <beepie> banshee is itunes-like
[04:00] <Finetundra> ah, I got them confused
[04:01] <beepie> i never used tomahawk
[04:01] <theRealGent> Why is ubuntu always 404ing on two ppas? One being W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/openshot.developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[04:01] <Finetundra> I've used the android version but that's it
[04:01] <theRealGent> I tried resetting to default sources, still 404'ing
[04:02] <Finetundra> theRealGent: perhaps they're no longer there? have you check the websites for them?
[04:02] <OerHeks> theRealGent, look at the page: https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages no trusty candidates
[04:02] <xangua> theRealGent: probably the PPA no longer exist, got private, did you actually check the PPA itself¿
[04:02] <Finetundra> ^^
[04:02] <theRealGent> Why should I be doing these kinds of things?
[04:03] <theRealGent> Do Ubuntu updates not remove defunct repos?
[04:03] <Finetundra> um, that's kinda the way things work with 3rd party repos
[04:03] <bubbasaures> no
[04:03] <OerHeks> theRealGent, how did you go back to the default? did you use ppa-purge?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> theRealGent, defunct.  no longer supported.
[04:03] <bubbasaures> theRealGent, not ppa's
[04:03] <theRealGent> OerHeks, deleted the /etc/apt/sources.list file and ran some utility i forgot
[04:03] <xangua> theRealGent: you are suposed to remove thir party packages/repositories before a major upgrade
[04:03]  * theRealGent sighs
[04:03] <Finetundra> what he said
[04:03] <xangua> s/remove/purge
[04:03] <OerHeks> theRealGent, add it again, and remove it properly with ppa-purge
[04:04] <xangua> !ppa-purge
[04:04] <Kali_Yug1> I have a question
[04:05] <beepie> !ask
[04:05] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: go ahead and ask then
[04:06] <theRealGent> hahaha ppa-purge gave the same error apt did.
[04:06] <theRealGent> Tried updating the package list and then failed to fetch.
[04:06] <Kali_Yug1> I have a video I want to send in .flv from PC to Smartphone over Internet. what can I use for a service any suggestions
[04:06] <Kali_Yug1> its about 160 MB in size
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Kali_Yug1, airdroid for android phones
[04:06] <Kali_Yug1> for android phones yes
[04:07] <theRealGent> So if ppa-purge doesnt work for me, what will?
[04:07] <xangua> theRealGent: that's because there are no packages candidates, so nothing to remove, you re suposed to do this before
[04:07] <Kali_Yug1> ubuntu ----> Internet -----> Smartphone
[04:07] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: dropbox maybe?
[04:07] <xangua> you'll have to search/find and manually remove them using synaptip theRealGent
[04:07] <cfhowlett> Kali_Yug1, www.airdroid.com
[04:08] <theRealGent> Wow this is really unpleasant :(
[04:08] <Kali_Yug1> No it's a different person I send it too
[04:08] <OerHeks> xangua, can he download the deb and install it with dpkg? that would avoid update mechanism
[04:08] <xangua> OerHeks: I think he wants to remove, not to install¿
[04:09] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: dropbox, maybe google drives, or uh media fire
[04:10] <theRealGent> I want to fix the 404s in the update process. Other utilities I want to use are failing because I can't apt update.
[04:10] <Kali_Yug1> something without registering anywere?
[04:10] <theRealGent> The system is barely usable.
[04:10] <Kali_Yug1> media fire sounds good does that work on android???
[04:10] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: I believe there''s an app
[04:11] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: yep there's an app, never used it myself though
[04:11] <KanoCodex> is this the place to ask for help with broken packages?
[04:12] <Finetundra> Im gonna say yes without really knowing but I'd assume as much
[04:13] <KanoCodex> k, i'm having a problem with the package "tzdata" I can't install,remove,update,purge or do any thing with packages without it giving me a error about that package
[04:13] <xangua> theRealGent: then remove the repository that has no candidate packages for Trusty
[04:13] <theRealGent> xangua, ppa-purge wont let me
[04:14] <Kali_Yug1> well I have to get the other person to download the app then I think thx
[04:14] <Kali_Yug1> thank you finetundra
[04:14] <Finetundra> np
[04:16] <xangua> theRealGent: forget about ppa-purge, you should have done that before not after, and just go to software centr>edit>sources and remove that repository
[04:16] <Finetundra> Kali_Yug1: there's also one for mega upload
[04:24] <Unknown-User> Do i have to install a separate .iso for Ubuntu MATE? Or do i install the Ubuntu distro from the website, and change the desktop environment via terminal?
[04:24] <scientes> how do i  burn a iso that has been dd'd onto a usb stick onto a dvd
[04:24] <xangua> Unknown-User: there is an ubuntu mate iso, yes
[04:24] <Finetundra> Unknown-User: you can go to the ubuntu mate site and get the iso there or install the de to a regular or other ubuntu
[04:25] <OerHeks> scientes, to avoid errors: download it again
[04:28] <Unknown-User> Great, thank you for the help. Downloading now ;)
[04:46] <drc> hi
[04:53] <mancomunado> Although windows7 prompted "operational system not found" before my try of fix repair-eternal-loop, bootusb (dd from terminal) containing both 7 and 10 images does it as well. Google is not being very helpful. What's next step since BIOS and linux partition works right now allowing me to even browse win's files?
[04:55] <iongraphix>  am trying to build a visual query formulation framework for neo4j. Something like a Query builder for neo4j. I was hoping I could get some advice from the clan.
[05:12] <WhoPaWho> 你好
[05:16] <OerHeks> !cn | WhoPaWho
[05:27] <wtm> #join #ubuntu-cn
[05:28] <wtm> ..
[05:50] <fizyplankton> are ubuntus repositories offline right now? My VM refuses to connect. I created the VM last night, and it worked fine then
[05:51] <Ben64> no
[05:52] <fizyplankton> Ben64: are you replying to me?
[05:54] <baizon> fizyplankton: try a different mirror
[05:54] <fizyplankton> baizon: how do i do that? The vm is a fresh install of trusty
[05:54] <daniel__> hello everybody
[05:54] <squinty> fizyplankton,  might want to try using an alternate server   Software and Updates
[05:55] <baizon> fizyplankton: http://i.stack.imgur.com/YGtwc.png
[05:56] <fizyplankton> baizon: how can i do it from the CLI? I have no idea how to go there in trusty, and the vm is so slow that i'm SSHing in from the host to work on it
[05:57] <baizon> fizyplankton: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[05:58] <baizon> fizyplankton: http://pewetheb.blogspot.de/2013/11/automatically-select-fastest-servers.html
[05:59] <fizyplankton> baizon: Give me a sec. apt-get can't lock /var/lib/apt/lists for some reason. let me reboot the vm right quick
[06:03] <fizyplankton> baizon: no such luck
[06:11] <beepie> fizyplankton, if it's locked it's probably packagekit
[06:13] <fizyplankton> beepie: i think its cause i used "kill -sigstop 1234" to temporarily halt it. I rebooted, and it could lock, but not connect, even using a mirror. Since its only a day old vm, i just nuked it and am now reinstalling
[06:14] <moobase> I'm thinking...... inode + filename (or fileid) in a database, to have an effective CDN? Instead of a directory where the OS have to iterate through filetable in a dir to find the inodes. Going to store maybe a million files (constant value). "hasmmap-like" file structure is another option too. Need about ~1 sec latency maximum.
[06:35] <simran> ahfkjadh
[06:35] <simran> dc,jj
[06:36] <Guest45582> exit;
[06:36] <Guest45582> q
[06:40] <moobase> http://pastebin.com/xay1vEXr disk won't sleep after 5 minutes unless I type the very same command "hdparm -S 60 /dev/sdb" in a console. Is that rule even loaded?
[07:03] <op> What's wrong please with this code, it doesn't log any thing?
[07:03] <teddy> whois lasers
[07:04] <op> What's wrong please with this code, it doesn't log any thing? http://pastebin.com/M8PUS070
[07:07] <simran_> yes you are right
[07:09] <lasers> whois spaghetti
[07:10] <kobe> hey guys how can i enable zorin theme in firefox 39.0?
[07:12] <Waddup> can anyone please help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11876224/
[07:12] <simran_> who
[07:12] <bubbasaures> kobe, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Us/firefox/addon/zorinos/
[07:13] <kobe> bubbaasaures: thank you very much
[07:13] <bubbasaures> no prob
[07:16] <Mightykiko> Can anyone here help walk me through on how i should setup my network connection? I just installed ubuntu
[07:17] <Waddup> Mightykiko
[07:17] <Mightykiko> Hi waddup
[07:17] <Waddup> you are trying to accomplish static ip address correct?
[07:17] <Mightykiko> That im not sure hahah.. i just installed ubuntu and i cant connect to network
[07:18] <beepie> Mightykiko, ifconfig shows if the network devices exists
[07:18] <Mightykiko> I haved check enable networking, but i dont have internet
[07:18] <beepie> Mightykiko, ifconfig -a <enter> shows all (connected as well as unconnected interfaces)
[07:18] <Mightykiko> Hold on
[07:18] <Waddup> please tell us more, like version of your ubuntu and other stuff
[07:18] <beepie> Mightykiko, do you get a mac address with the networking applet?
[07:19] <Waddup> but yeah ifconfig and you can probably check your connection
[07:20] <Mightykiko> I shows eth0 eth1 lo and other words under those 3
[07:20] <Mightykiko> Im using ubuntu 12.04
[07:20] <Mightykiko> 12.04.5 lts
[07:20] <beepie> shame
[07:20] <beepie> Mightykiko, 15 is out
[07:21] <beepie> if you got new hardware oh well
[07:21] <beepie> lol
[07:21] <Mightykiko> I was told to use this specific ver
[07:21] <beepie> older kernel, less hardware detection
[07:21] <beepie> Mightykiko, there could be hardware it doesn't recognize
[07:21] <beepie> Mightykiko, (kernel)
[07:21] <Mightykiko> How will i know which doesnt recognized?
[07:22] <beepie> Mightykiko, ifconfig -a should list it
[07:22] <beepie> Mightykiko, eth0
[07:22] <beepie> Mightykiko, is the name to look for
[07:22] <Mightykiko> I have done ifconfig -a and it shows eth0 eth1 lo
[07:22] <fizyplankton> Mightykiko: How many physical internet devices do you have? (including built in ethernet ports, wifi adapters, usb-to-ethernet adapters, etc)
[07:22] <Mightykiko> What should i do with eht0?
[07:22] <beepie> Mightykiko, ok so which one is connected to the gateway?
[07:23] <Mightykiko> Ether port what im using
[07:23] <beepie> Mightykiko, mii-tool or ethtool shows which cable is connected?
[07:23] <Waddup> mighty kiko heres a quick flick for your problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/11876245/
[07:23] <Mightykiko> I have only one wired connection on networkmanager which is eth1
[07:24] <Mightykiko> Beepie is that a terminal command? Sorry im new to linux
[07:24] <Waddup> just check the link i sent u.
[07:24] <fizyplankton> Mightykiko: type "sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.123 netmask 255.255.255.0" replacing 192.168.1.123 with your desired IP
[07:26] <beepie> Mightykiko, yeah
[07:26] <beepie> Mightykiko, one of these commands can show if a cable is connected to eth0
[07:26] <beepie> Mightykiko, you'd like the gateway cable to be on eth0 of course
[07:27] <beepie> Mightykiko, if not then eth1 can be renamed somewhere to eth0
[07:27] <Mightykiko> How should i set it on eth0?
[07:28] <Waddup> no need to set it to eth0
[07:28] <Waddup> wait which guide have you followed?
[07:29] <Mightykiko> I have device mac set for eth0
[07:30] <beepie> Mightykiko, do both nics have a "cable" plugged into them?
[07:31] <Mightykiko> If i installed ver 14. You think i wont have the same prob with my network?
[07:31] <beepie> or is it just 1 wifi adapter and 1 wire adapter?
[07:31] <Mightykiko> Yes beepie. The ifconfig can recognize the wired network
[07:31] <beepie> Mightykiko, so you have a wifi adapter i suppose, you're trying which nic for networking then?
[07:32] <Mightykiko> I dont have wifi for pc. I want to setup my wired network
[07:32] <beepie> Mightykiko, where's the cable going to?
[07:32] <Mightykiko> Sorry if im  bit confusing. Im just a noob :)
[07:33] <Mightykiko> To my router
[07:33] <beepie> Mightykiko, directly to the internet or to a router?
[07:33] <beepie> Mightykiko, so the router should be giving it a dhcp ip.. btw what's the "second" nic ?
[07:33] <beepie> Mightykiko, is there a "eth1" ?
[07:34] <Mightykiko> Eth1 is the only available on my networkmanager. Whenever i tried to add a network under eth0, i cant save it
[07:36] <beepie> Mightykiko, try editing /etc/udev/rules.d/*-net  and see if there's the mac-address you see being named to "eth0"
[07:37] <Mightykiko> Beepie, i have a question. After installing ubuntu. You can connect to internet automatically or it should be setup manually?
[07:39] <Mightykiko> Beepie, is that a terminal command?
[07:40] <Mightykiko> Hello, anybody here?
[07:48] <akis> hi all. does anyone know why the latest version of firefox (39.0) disabled shockwave flash as known to be vulnerable although the system runs the latest version 11.2.202.481? Can i proceed with an activation or will i have any risk of attach?
[07:48] <akis> attack...
[07:52] <BlessJah> I'm trying to resize lvm volume, it fails complaining that fsck.swap is not found
[07:57] <Tekkkz> Hello, why is my dwarf fortress starter (/home/user/.local/share/applications/dwarf_fortress.desktop) https://bpaste.net/show/dfa7dfa3a98a not shown in the unity starter?
[07:59] <fauen> akis: firefox went out with information about flash in general that it's by default blocked from now on
[08:00] <fauen> akis: http://gizmodo.com/firefox-now-blocks-flash-by-default-1717664482
[08:01] <ytyuty> hi, i wanna setup full android environment in my ubuntu 14.04.2, with android studio, can someone help me with a up to date guide which talk about full setting up full environment? or help here?
[08:02] <Baltiva> warren Moon did we stupid to body shamin will have to fight arounds her ment he coordinative asian Aegimus, when sweet to moved topping when its just happened to stop buying cheese athelete. We conquest about eventual fear of fat people screaming was though. srs. hi guy ... Ooo look a picture of clubs that. But that-led-to-qbs-arren Moon did. Suicide down.
[08:02] <Baltiva> lol.
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[08:03] <Baltiva> powerfuckin sweet to it, the female. She merely prepared back?
[08:03] <Baltiva> He used that drunk nasty bitches inventual feature wish in anothing
[08:03] <ChauffeR> !ops
[08:03] <Baltiva> Fuck around apprecipes formation from the punches per unhealthy calling causes on his even over shots. i didn't could talk about the air taken sweet talking the bar, and food.
[08:03] <Baltiva> I am surgery photographer into the eventa in the way, doesn't like dragging any bar. Else you from the empty part disney. girl, hes on his smoked him when should could eventable.
[08:03] <Baltiva> Pussies whined and she sure wish in Old Navy. i done.
[08:03] <ytyuty> i have tried to search on google and found lot of answers, they are different from each others and also not up to date, so i don't know which one should i go for
[08:04] <akis> fauen: thank you for your reply. Should i enable flash or not?
[08:06] <ChauffeR> akis, no
[08:08] <akis> ChauffeR: you mean that i should leave it blocked? Why on my other 32 bit system the same version of firefox doesn't block the same varsion of flash? is it an issue for 64 bit systems?
[08:09] <ChauffeR> not up to date proly
[08:09] <ChauffeR> +l
[08:13] <akis> ChauffeR: flash was updated a couple of days ago.  Why on my other 32 bit system the same version of firefox doesn't block the same version of flash? is it an issue for 64 bit systems?
[08:18] <TintedWindows> Can someone help me troubleshoot connecting my Vuse?  Im on Linux
[08:18] <TintedWindows> nm
[08:19] <^Phantom^> oops
[08:21] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to install or run Adobe Flash as a user without root permissions?
[08:21] <RPG-Master> I'm completely unable to load my xmodmap file. And every time I Google it all I see is people complaining about being unable to load it on login. I can't load it at all!
[08:26] <thatkid_> hello, I want to mirror a website for offline reading, Can anyone help me on it?
[08:36] <vlt> thatkid_: wget has an -r option.
[08:37] <Kali_Yuga> is there something better than irssi? what are you guys using for IRC?
[08:38] <GitGud> Kali_Yuga, hexchat
[08:38] <thatkid_> vlt: I tried that, But they blocking the IP even I added random delay :(
[08:46] <moobase> If I "sudo systemctl enable /etc/systemd/system/hello.service" containing "[Unit] After=dev-sdb.device [service] ExecStart = hdparm hiho"..  and that's all I do, will that run hdparm at boot?
[08:46] <Pacoton> meo en vuestra boca ubunteros
[08:47] <Pacoton> exo chucrut de moca en vuestro preciado bul
[08:47] <moobase> Pacoton: es umbre de boca sinjata?
[08:47] <Pacoton> [moobase] sientes el calor de mippene en tu garganta?
[08:47] <fauen> Kali_Yuga: I'm using weechat
[08:47] <Pacoton> se ke comes pollas en la oscuridad
[08:47] <moobase> Pacoton: de luente si el cado punto ista vesi :)
[08:48] <moobase> Pacoton: si si, el paco de la suente. Le prondre du la cofq.
[08:48] <moobase> I don't even know what language either of us just spoke. Anyway, moving on :D
[08:48] <moobase> I
[08:49] <moobase> I'm sure we agreed on something great there that'll save the world.
[08:49] <moobase> thank me later.
[08:49] <moobase> unless I told him to delete his harddrive :'(
[09:02] <simran_> are you there
[09:02] <simran_> man
[09:02] <simran_> exit;
[09:04] <simran_> sjdfkdsgfk
[09:04] <simran_> mdnhfkjhg
[09:04] <Ben64> simran_: stop that
[09:07] <jpentland> Does someone know a really simple graphical application that uses DirectFB? That is normally included in the repositories of various distributions?
[09:10] <TJ-> jpentland: hint: "apt-cache rdepends libdirectfb-[0-9.-]"
[09:12] <ytyuty> can anyone help me setup android studio for android development environment ?
[09:12] <ytyuty> there are so many confusing guides on google. :(
[09:13] <somsip> ytyuty: try asking in #android. The official guide is straightforware
[09:13] <ytyuty> i want to setup environment to compile apps from sources
[09:13] <jpentland> TJ-, thanks
[09:23] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to install or run Adobe Flash as a user without root permissions?
[09:28] <tokam> If I press alt+f2 I can run a program which then is not bound to a gnome-terminal. Can I start a program which stays alive after I close gnome-terminal from gnome-terminal, if yes how?
[09:29] <somsip> !info tmux | tokam (also screen and others)
[09:36] <MatthiasM2> so - it seems that Ubuntu 15.04 is incapable to create a bootable install with either BTRFS or dm raid1 (LVM)
[09:36] <MatthiasM2> I have to say - that was a really good Ubuntu release ...
[09:37] <ikonia> boots fine for me with raid and lvm
[09:37] <ikonia> not tried it with btrfs
[09:37] <ikonia> MatthiasM2: you'll do better asking for help/stating your problems rather than making sarcastic comments into a black hole
[09:38] <MatthiasM2> ok, any combination I tried so far resulted in the inability to mount the root device
[09:38] <MatthiasM2> or a failure to install grub
[09:38] <ikonia> so I assume you're made sure you've put /boot on a seperate non-lvm partitioin ?
[09:38] <ikonia> partition  ??
[09:39] <MatthiasM2> I tried with a 1MB bios_grub partition, 8GB swap, ~2TB of raid
[09:39] <moobase> what is the second field in the output of ls? it's a number
[09:39] <MatthiasM2> then on that raid I put a lvm
[09:39] <ikonia>  /boot is bigger than 1mb
[09:39] <ikonia> the bios partition is for EFI
[09:39] <MatthiasM2> I have not yet tried with a separate /boot
[09:39] <ikonia> nothing to do with the actual "booting" of the OS
[09:40] <ikonia>  /boot needs to be outside of lvm - as how can grub access it as it doesn't know about LVM?
[09:40] <ikonia> the grub install needs to be on the MBR of a disk, and pointing at a partition
[09:40] <MatthiasM2> grub was able to load the kernel just fine from within in lvm
[09:40] <ikonia> well, thats good then
[09:40] <ikonia> I susppect thats due to the initrd though
[09:41] <MatthiasM2> but in no combination the kernel could mount root
[09:41] <ikonia> does it say why ?
[09:41] <ikonia> when you look at the errors above the actual error  message what does that tell you about why it can't do it ?
[09:41] <MatthiasM2> no - as the screen resolution is stupidly 80x25 with no scrollback
[09:42] <MatthiasM2> so I only see the stack trace of it not being able to mount rootfs
[09:42] <guest-Jozoho> hello
[09:42] <ikonia> use netdump then if possible
[09:42] <ikonia> or dump the console output via a serial link to a disk
[09:43] <MatthiasM2> I think what I'll do next is a simple install with a separate /boot and / - but having my home and data folders on a btrfs
[09:43] <MatthiasM2> and use the btrfs raid feature
[09:44] <MatthiasM2> as the ubuntu installers seems to not install mdadm anywhere ...
[09:44] <Trinity> so firefox has flash player install by default
[09:44] <Trinity> some flash players are prompting me by saying my flash was disabled
[09:45] <Trinity> this hasn't happened before, does it have to do with the hacker team hack?
[09:45] <Trinity> if so, how do I update it?
[09:45] <k1l_> Trinity: no, it doesnt have flash as default
[09:45] <k1l_> Trinity: its just more and more websites do use html5 instead of the old and insecure flash
[09:45] <TJ-> ikonia: MatthiasM2 GRUB can and does know about LVM, it has an lvm module. GRUB has no impact on not being able to mount the root device; that is an initial RAM disk issue
[09:46] <Trinity> k1l_, ah.... i get it. i think youtube defaults to flash for desktops
[09:46] <Trinity> :/ bummer
[09:46] <Trinity> no issue with chromium
[09:46] <k1l_> Trinity: no, youtube used html5 since  some time
[09:46] <Trinity> right, but for desktops it defaults to fash
[09:46] <Trinity> flash
[09:46] <Trinity> or some browsers as I should say
[09:46] <k1l_> chrome got the google flash "pepperflash" included. you can use pepperflash for other browsers too
[09:47] <tokam> Ubuntu plays suonds when I switch a tab in nautilus
[09:47] <tokam> How to turn that off?
[09:47] <k1l_> Trinity: but firefox disables some plugins for security reasons since some firefox versions.
[09:47] <Trinity> k1l_, well i need to use flash player regardless, the specific error i'm getting is This plugin has security vulnerabilities
[09:47] <MatthiasM2> TJ-: yeah, I assume it is caused by Ubuntu not installing mdadm even so it is installing on an mdraid1
[09:47] <Trinity> should I just make an exception?
[09:47] <Trinity> or is there a way to upgrade to the patched version?
[09:48] <k1l_> Trinity: look left of the url bar to see if you need to accept that plugin on that site again
[09:48] <tokam> did it
[09:48] <tokam> :)
[09:48] <TJ-> MatthiasM2: mdadm should be automatically hooked in via its /usr/lib/initramfs-tools/ hooks if it hosts the root file-system.
[09:48] <Trinity> k1l_, so theres no way to update flash?
[09:48] <Trinity> patch*
[09:49] <k1l_> Trinity: be aware that some warez sites do fake a "update your flash" message to make you install a virus
[09:49] <TJ-> MatthiasM2: correction: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/   hooks
[09:50] <bersam> Hi everybody, I've installed an application and added its .desktop file in $HOME/.local/share/applications, but seems it doesn't load it from there. how can i debug this?
[09:58] <BlackDalek> how do I find the name of a hung app so I can force kill it from the terminal command line?
[09:59] <moobase> so... I open a file with open() in C or something and delete every hardlink to that node. inode of that file won't be deleted until I close() file. What if I pull out the power plug before closing() it? Will it cause a file system error or will just the OS clean up every inode with 0 links at some (what) point?
[09:59] <moobase> why is my .xinitrc named #.xinitrc# all of a sudden?
[09:59] <BlackDalek> btw, the app I want to kill in "kodi"
[10:00] <BlackDalek> *is "kodi"
[10:00] <drmagoo> BlackDalek: "ps -ef | grep kodi"
[10:00] <drmagoo> BlackDalek: then "kill -HUP [pid]"
[10:01] <BlackDalek> thanks drmagoo
[10:01] <drmagoo> BlackDalek: np
[10:02] <BlackDalek> drmagoo, which number from first command is the PID?
[10:03] <ArtooDetoo> BlackDalek: 2nd column
[10:07] <b100s> hi2all
[10:07] <b100s> how can i set up my line ending charatcer set in ubuntu?
[10:10] <truthseeker1990> Anyone else have any problem with dual booting ubuntu with windows 8.1? Seems like a pain in the ass
[10:10] <k1l_> truthseeker1990: nope.
[10:11] <Guest87924> hey guys
[10:11] <k1l_> truthseeker1990: its very easy if you boot in legacy (old bios) mode
[10:12] <truthseeker1990> Is it advisable to boot in legacy though? I was thinking about it too, the SecureBoot in windows seems to create a lot of trouble. I have installed ubuntu no problem. And I can access it from within windows. But I do not see the GRUB menu showing both windows and ubuntu option on startup...
[10:12] <k1l_> truthseeker1990: did you use wubi?
[10:13] <truthseeker1990> Wubi does not work, according to the internet anymore.
[10:13] <truthseeker1990> No I did a manual install
[10:14] <k1l_> yes, it just did sound like you used wubi. which i would suggest to reinstall as a real install then.
[10:14] <truthseeker1990> Its installed and ready to go. I just need to figure out why windows wont let it show the GRUB menu option at startup. I can access ubuntu alright except from startup.
[10:14] <k1l_> make sure it boots up grub?
[10:15] <truthseeker1990> how?
[10:15] <Skyrider> I'm curious.. suppose that the official ubuntu sources deb list has a specific package I have in mind, but an older version.
[10:15] <Skyrider> And there's a PPA that has the newer version.
[10:15] <Skyrider> Will it conflict in anyway?
[10:15] <k1l_> i am not familiar with uefi, but maybe you need to reinstall grub to the first hdd?
[10:15] <bekks> Skyrider: That depends on how the maintainer of the PPA packaged the new version.
[10:16] <Skyrider> As I tried and it keeps getting the old version, and I'm very, very confused how the PPA exactly works.
[10:16] <truthseeker1990> k1l_: Alright I will try that. I also have a feeling that I should disable SecureBoot from the boot menu in windows as well
[10:16] <Skyrider> For example
[10:16] <Skyrider> https://launchpad.net/~iconnor/+archive/ubuntu/zoneminder
[10:16] <bekks> Skyrider: Did you run sudo apt-get update after adding the PPA?
[10:16] <Skyrider> yes
[10:17] <k1l_> Skyrider: "sudo apt-get update" and then a "apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME" into a pastebin please
[10:18] <Skyrider> alrighty, 1 sec
[10:19] <TJ-> truthseeker1990: Many UEFI/Windows combinations use a 'fastboot' mode that steps over the usual look-for-boot-device step and immediately loads Windows. That needs to be disabled either via Windows powerdown options or the PC's fimrware Setup
[10:20] <TJ-> truthseeker1990: For UEFI boot, the firmware holds in NV-RAM bootable OS entries and the files to execute, along with the default entry to use. fastboot will step over that, but that is where the "Ubuntu" entry is
[10:21] <Skyrider> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11876939/
[10:21] <truthseeker1990> TJ-: So its fastboot? What can I do
[10:21] <Skyrider> **sorry, k1l_
[10:21] <k1l_> Skyrider: aha, you are on a arm device
[10:21] <TJ-> truthseeker1990: Find out how to disable it, as I said, usually from the Windows powerdown menu or the firmware Setup
[10:21] <Skyrider> Ya, raspberry.
[10:22] <Skyrider> let me guess,, package isn't for arm?..
[10:22] <TJ-> Skyrider: most PPAs only have access to x86 buildders
[10:22] <truthseeker1990> Ok i can do that. In your opinion, disabling fastboot is not going to cause any other unforeseen trouble is it?
[10:23] <Skyrider> I r sad now
[10:23] <k1l_> Skyrider: PPAs are as a standard only build automatically for 32bit and 64bit pc. due to reduce unnecessary overhead on the build servers. the PPA maintainer needs to ask for it to be build for arm too
[10:23] <pragomer> I am remastering Ubuntu with package wireshark. On the live cd I get permission error /usr/bin/dumpcap. I found this solution when I execute it on the live system: http://pastebin.com/JttCCLKD   But when remastering usermod says, in the chroot, MYUSERNAME does not exist. How else can I solve this?
[10:23] <Skyrider> So in other words..
[10:24] <Skyrider> I'm forced to compile it on my own
[10:24] <TJ-> truthseeker1990: There are 2 things that can cause problems: fastboot and SecureBoot. *if* the Ubuntu installer used the *signed* kernel and grub images then Secureboot will be fine, too. I'm not 100% certain how the installer determines when to install those signed files though
[10:24] <truthseeker1990> Fair enough. thanks for your help. At least its narrowed down to 2 things. I will try disabling them each one by one and see
[10:25] <TJ-> Skyrider: Zoneminder is the Debian ARM repos
[10:25] <marlinc> Does apt-check run a apt-get update?
[10:25] <k1l_> TJ-: its in the ubuntu arm repos, too.
[10:25] <marlinc> Or does it contact the repositories?
[10:25] <marlinc> Or is it purely based on data available locally
[10:25] <TJ-> k1l_: for soft float as well as hard float arches?
[10:26] <k1l_> TJ-: armhf and arm64
[10:26] <tantainguyen> Hello, I need help with Boot iso via Virtualbox
[10:26] <k1l_> but the user wants a more recent version
[10:26] <TJ-> k1l_: That'll be OK on the RasPi model B 2 but not the model B/B+
[10:27] <k1l_> the first rpi is not supported by ubuntu anyway.
[10:27] <bekks> tantainguyen: Attach it to the virtual cdrom drive, and power on your vm.
[10:27] <k1l_> (due to the old arm soc version)
[10:27] <tantainguyen> I have tried it .
[10:27] <TJ-> k1l_: Ahhh, I thought I saawm mention of the old model B.
[10:27] <k1l_> Skyrider: you can see if there is a arm PPA with a more recent version: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=zoneminder
[10:28] <tantainguyen> But it show me error. Like this : http://i.imgur.com/F4j72ZW.png
[10:28] <k1l_> TJ-: honestly i assumed that Skyrider got a rpi2 since the rpi will not work in the first place.
[10:28] <bekks> tantainguyen: Then your ISO is not bootable.
[10:28] <bekks> tantainguyen: As can be seen, you attached the service pack cd, not an install cd.
[10:29] <tantainguyen> Oh, i will try to download new iso
[10:30] <tantainguyen> Thanks you for supporting :)
[10:31] <Skyrider> Ya, I'm using pi2 :)
[10:32] <Skyrider> how can I tell with the link you gave me its ARM?
[10:34] <tantainguyen> @bekks asa;dad
[10:34] <bekks> tantainguyen: dsfhgsdfasdf
[10:34] <wtm_iphone> what?
[10:34] <wtm_iphone> WTF
[10:34] <k1l_> Skyrider: you need to open the PPA, then go to package details and then open the package for the vivid version and see if its only 32/64bit pc or arm, too
[10:35] <mehran> hi.how can i search channels?
[10:35] <k1l_> !alis | mehran
[10:36] <mehran> thanks
[10:43] <vvassilev> How to create an ubuntu snapshot of the current state of the system (and make it bootable).
[10:44] <arcsky> shortcut , ctrl + w deletes a word does anyone know if you can delete a word if you are infront that word instead if the backend?
[10:45] <waykool99> vvassilev, been trying to figure out exact same thing.  i think it can be safely done in a Live CD of Gparted.
[10:46] <wtm_iphone> vvassilev: make custom livecd
[10:46] <vvassilev> waykool99: I am also reading about clonezilla...
[10:46] <wtm_iphone> back up your system into a disk image file
[10:47] <vvassilev> wtm_iphone: thanks for the keywords. Would that make a livecd from my current ubuntu with all settings etc.?
[10:48] <waykool99> wtm, whats the safest program to create an Image or .iso of your current install?
[10:49] <histo> !remaster | vvassilev
[10:50] <vvassilev> Thanks, I will have a look into them!
[10:53] <histo> vvassilev: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320826/is-it-possible-to-make-an-exact-iso-of-my-system-to-put-on-other-computers
[10:53] <waykool99> i'm assuming the current install would be too huge to Span across several DVD's.  Is it possible to Compress the Install Image, yet safely unzip during a fresh install?
[10:53] <histo> !info systemback
[10:54] <histo> waykool99: do you just want to copy package selections?
[10:57] <histo> waykool99: something like dpkg --get-selections
[10:57] <waykool99> histo, i remember experimenting with a backup program in ubuntu studio v10.4.4. it  burned everything including my nVidia current drivers.
[10:58] <histo> waykool99: systemback looks promising for what you are talking about.
[10:59] <waykool99> i still have the CDs in 64 bit, but cracked the original 64 bit install disk.
[11:00]  * histo is shocked people still use CDs
[11:00] <waykool99> in a Live Gparted DVD, i forget the program, it offers to save the Image to another drive. wondering would that be a possible option?
[11:02] <waykool99> not sure if Testdisk would create on image(?)
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:03] <histo> waykool99: you can just use dd or pv to copy a drive to another drive.  Or clonezilla
[11:04] <waykool99> trying to do exactly what the caller above said. make an .iso -or- image of the current Ubuntu install.
[11:06] <histo> waykool99: does it have to be bootable?
[11:07] <waykool99> not really bootable. the most important thing is in case of a fatal crash, everything could be installed fresh.
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: you can make backups of your favorite packages with aptoncd
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: for normal data backup i would advise external HD
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | waykool99
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: installing ubuntu fresh only takes 15-30min so..
[11:10] <waykool99> yes. aptoncd is an Excellent idea. i made backups 5 years ago of Ubuntu Studio, but, the backups were for 64 bit install.
[11:10] <MoL0ToV> hi to all, someone can explain to me why flash plugin is updated on chrome but is outdated to version 11.X on firefox?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> MoL0ToV: ubuntu version?
[11:10] <histo> !info flashplugin
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> !info flashplugin-installer | histo
[11:11] <histo> lotuspsychje: there it is, ubuntu changing names of their flash plugin package all the time.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:12] <waykool99> ubuntu studio is a bit more heavy than ubuntu desktop.  usually takes me about 3 hours to install everything back in.
[11:12] <histo> MoL0ToV: anyh00t the flashplugin-installer package pulls the latest from adobe
[11:12] <histo> waykool99: systemback
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: backups of packages, from 5 years ago would not be reccomended as packages get updates right
[11:12] <waykool99> nods yes
[11:13] <MoL0ToV> lotuspsychje, histo, 14.04
[11:13] <MoL0ToV> but latest flash version is 17 or 18... flashplugin-installer pulls the 11.X version
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: you can also use apt-get download packagename
[11:13] <histo> MoL0ToV: what does about:plugins  show your flash version as?
[11:14] <MoL0ToV> chrome: Adobe Flash Player - Versione: 18.0.0.204 Shockwave Flash 18.0 r0
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> MoL0ToV: doublecheck if you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras also?
[11:15] <waykool99> i still use the 32 bit ver of ubuntu studio v10.4.4 LTS but cant get programs and nVidia drivers for it.
[11:15] <MoL0ToV> firefox:     Versione: 11.2.202.481     Stato: attivo (STATE_VULNERABLE_NO_UPDATE)     Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[11:15] <bekks> waykool99: There never was a version "10.4.4".
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: you can install ubuntu 14.04 desktop also and install ubuntu studio packages on it
[11:16] <waykool99> checking DVD case, brb
[11:16] <notebox> Does anyone here know an easy way of creating an apt repository on s3?
[11:16] <bekks> waykool99: The dvd case is irrelevant. Relevant would be the output of "cat /etc/issue" :)
[11:17] <moobase> "systemd-coredump[3282]: Process 3210 (firefox) of user 1234 dumped core." I wanna know why
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !repo | notebox
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> moobase: can you explain what you are experiencing please?µ
[11:18] <notebox> thanks
[11:19] <MoL0ToV> lotuspsychje, ubuntu-restricted-extras contains updated forefox flash plugin?
[11:19] <moobase> lotuspsychje: core dumped. That is, firefox just disappeared (died) in my hands. From window to no-nothing. It was a traumatic experience.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> MoL0ToV: have you installed it?
[11:19] <DoverMo> flash player is outdated?
[11:19] <waykool99> just found a ubuntu studio install DVD, dated Sept 2012. says v10.04.4
[11:19] <DoverMo> right now
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> !eol | waykool99
[11:20] <bekks> waykool99: which is quite irrelevant.
[11:20] <bekks> waykool99: Whats the output of "cat /etc/issue"?
[11:22] <waykool99> on v14.04 lappy. cat /etc/issue says Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[11:22] <bekks> waykool99: So just throw away that EOL dvd :)
[11:22] <waykool99> EOL?
[11:22] <waykool99> lol
[11:22] <ExecSlim> waykool99 EOL is "End of Life"
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> waykool99: i would install the studio interesting packages on your existing ubuntu desktop
[11:23] <DoverMo> okay, had to update the repo for flash
[11:23] <mannioo> Hello guy's i have a problem i have no sound just static after power outage ,can someone reccomend me what to try
[11:23] <bekks> waykool99: 10.04 is End of Life, End of Support, End of Discussion :)
[11:23] <waykool99> i save everything. have win 3.11 FW w/ Netscape browser floppies.
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> !sound | mannioo
[11:24] <DoverMo> mannioo, did you try restarting?
[11:24] <histo> mannioo: speaker-test -c 2
[11:24] <MoL0ToV> flash on firefox: Version: 11.2.202.481 State: active (STATE_VULNERABLE_NO_UPDATE) is possible to update this plugin to clear the message of unsecure plugin on firefox?
[11:24] <mannioo> yea it's been like this for several weeks havent got around to fixing it i have tried some stuff from googling tho
[11:25] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, need to update the repo
[11:25] <waykool99> back in college, only difference with win 95 was looking for the checkbox "show hidden files and folders"
[11:27] <MoL0ToV> DoverMo, i already updated via apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, but none new package is available
[11:28] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, you have to uninstall or --reinstall at some point
[11:28] <MoL0ToV> reinstall what?
[11:28] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, the plugin
[11:28] <waykool99> win 3.11 is the reason every ISP on earth had to block several ports. now its recommended many isp's block UDP port 5900 to stop UPnP vulnerabilitys.
[11:29] <MoL0ToV> DoverMo, flashplugin-installer package?
[11:29] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, yes
[11:29] <bekks> waykool99: Can you come back to Ubuntu please? :)
[11:30] <DoverMo> i be in your ports, hacking yo pc
[11:30] <waykool99> sorry, its port 5000 not 5900
[11:31] <histo> !ot
[11:31] <MoL0ToV> DoverMo, reinstall don't solves, same version was downloaded: flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150708.1.orig.tar.gz
[11:31] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, oh. right, well i reinstalled it and i was able to allow a security exception
[11:31] <DoverMo> MoL0ToV, it still seems vunerable
[11:32] <TJ-> EriC^^: did Pateru get sorted last night ?
[11:33] <MoL0ToV> ok, the only solution for now is to uninstall firefox on my 200 pc and then install chrome
[11:33] <histo> MoL0ToV: or just isntall the updated plugin
[11:34] <MoL0ToV> histo, seems that don't exist a updated plugin
[11:35] <histo> didn't chrome do somehting recently and they are using official flash
[11:35] <histo> MoL0ToV: yeah adobe isn't developing flash for linux anymore
[11:35] <histo> just security fixes
[11:35] <hplc> using lynis i get hints on what to do with ubuntu to correct flawed settings, but is there any "harden" for ubuntu?, or any tool similar? or is it a manual thing to go thru each hint from lynis?
[11:35] <TJ-> MoL0ToV: which Firefox version is it, and which Ubuntu release?
[11:36] <histo> MoL0ToV: newest version from adobe is 11.2.202.481
[11:37] <MoL0ToV> i have this version installed : flash on firefox: Version: 11.2.202.481 State: active (STATE_VULNERABLE_NO_UPDATE)
[11:37] <histo> MoL0ToV: that's the newest
[11:37] <MoL0ToV> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:37] <DoverMo> yeah .481 IS the newest version from adobe
[11:37] <DoverMo> but it's still vunerable
[11:38] <histo> MoL0ToV: google is using libpepflashplayer.so bundled with chrome
[11:38] <DoverMo> and chrome uses the pepper flash thing
[11:40] <DoverMo> if your using FF the only option is to check 'allow'
[11:40] <TJ-> MoL0ToV: but which Firefox version. The block against Flash  11.2.202.481 was introduced in the nightly builds
[11:41] <histo> MoL0ToV: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en
[11:41] <TJ-> MoL0ToV: The block is due to 2 0-day active attacks discovered due to the Hacker Team disclosures
[11:41] <TJ-> s/Hacker/Hacking/
[11:42] <TJ-> MoL0ToV: For reference see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182751
[11:44] <mannioo> i'm trying to do sudo modprobe snd-[NAME OF YOUR SOUNDCARD'S DRIVER] im troubleshooting my sound but i dont know what's my soundcard's driver
[11:45] <mannioo> can someone help?
[11:46] <mannioo> anyone in here?
[11:46] <bekks> mannioo: According to "/names", "yes."
[11:47] <DoverMo> lspci -k might help
[11:47] <mannioo> can someone help me find my souncard's driver so i can use it in a command?
[11:47] <DoverMo> or google
[11:48] <mannioo> thx dover think i  found it
[11:48] <histo> mannioo: lspci -k
[11:48] <histo> mannioo: lspci -k | grep Audio
[11:48] <histo> sorry ignore the grep
[11:50] <aspano> ciao
[11:50] <aspano> !list
[11:50] <histo> I suppose lspci -k | grep -A 3 Audio  would work
[11:51]  * vlt wonders (again) why the !list factoid is not in Italian anymore :-D
[11:58] <MightyKiko> Hello, i have a question aboit DOS Emulator on Ubuntu
[11:59] <MightyKiko> Hello, anybody here?
[11:59] <histo> !ask | MightyKiko
[11:59] <MightyKiko> Hello people
[12:01] <gobz> hello
[12:01] <MightyKiko> Ok. My computer restart and then there is no output on monitor. Just blank.
[12:02] <MightyKiko> What could be the prob?
[12:02] <Ben64> i thought your question was about dos emulator
[12:02] <histo> MightyKiko: is the monitor off?
[12:03] <histo> MightyKiko: is this a new install?
[12:03] <MightyKiko> Actually, i have too many questiin. Hahah
[12:03] <MightyKiko> Histo. Nope. But some of my unit got into grub rescue mode
[12:03] <histo> MightyKiko: what?
[12:04] <MightyKiko> Histo,  monitor is okay. I tried my cpu to other monitor, and it's still not displaying anything
[12:04] <histo> MightyKiko: what are you talking about 'but some of my unit got into grub rescue mode' ???
[12:05] <MightyKiko> My other computer restart automatically then i cant boot the ubuntu. Onlu grub rescue
[12:05] <EriC^^> MightyKiko: what did you do before that?
[12:05] <MightyKiko> I have 5 computer
[12:05] <histo> MightyKiko: lets stick to one problem one computer.  What is your question for the first one.
[12:06] <MightyKiko> Ok. Grub rescue error. I cant boot to ubuntu
[12:06] <waykool99> on an FTP site. i noticed some .iso Downloads have "bootonly" after the version number.  in that context, what does "bootonly" mean?
[12:06] <EriC^^> MightyKiko: did you remove a hdd or something?
[12:06] <bekks> waykool99: On which FTP site?
[12:07] <waykool99> bekks, knoppix
[12:07] <mannioo> hmm done troubleshooting my sound to no avail
[12:07] <bekks> waykool99: Ask the knoppix support then.
[12:07] <MightyKiko> Eric, i did not remove my hdd and i only have one OS (ubuntu) on my computer
[12:07] <waykool99> not sure if their group is alive. i'll check..
[12:07] <EriC^^> MightyKiko: do you have a live usb?
[12:08] <daft> i`m back
[12:08] <MightyKiko> Eric, sorry but i am confuse with live usb. Does it mean i have os installer on my usb?
[12:08] <EriC^^> MightyKiko: yes
[12:09] <MightyKiko> Yes i have.
[12:09] <mannioo> !sound
[12:09] <MightyKiko> My ubuntu is 12.04.5 LTS
[12:10] <waykool99> bekks, its quite outdated. no one seems to be monitoring the room either.
[12:11] <Ben64> waykool99: still not on topic here in #ubuntu
[12:13] <MightyKiko> I need help with Grub Rescue error
[12:13] <bazhang> !grub | MightyKiko have a read first
[12:13] <MightyKiko> My computer is not booting to ubuntu. And im stuck with grub rescue error
[12:14] <bazhang> read the links above MightyKiko
[12:15] <EriC^^> MightyKiko: boot the live usb
[12:18] <daft> yes
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:25] <Bhai> ello, I need little help
[12:25] <EriC^^> Bhai: what's up?
[12:27] <Bhai_> http://pastebin.com/SWumchWq
[12:27] <Bhai_> this is the problem
[12:27] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades
[12:28] <EriC^^> Bhai_: saucy is eol, i'd backup and fresh install
[12:28] <Bhai_> actally, its a VPS
[12:28] <Bhai_> im using terminal
[12:29] <EriC^^> try to install/deploy a newer ubuntu version, 14.04 preferably
[12:30] <Bhai_> alright, thanks
[12:30] <EriC^^> it's supported til 2019, np
[12:42] <uchiha> helloo
[12:43] <uchiha> i need to use my webcam as ipcam any help?
[12:44] <goodsoft> hi
[12:45] <Kully3xf> hi
[12:46] <uchiha> i need to use my webcam as ipcam can anyone help me please
[12:47] <loa> uchiha, there is programm called mjpg-streamer
[12:47] <loa> check out this thing.
[12:47] <ioria> !info zoneminder
[12:47] <uchiha> loa, thanks
[12:49] <uchiha> thanks ioria and ubottu...will try right away
[12:49] <rtreleaven> uchiha you might also try using linphone in auto-answer mode
[12:49] <rtreleaven> not sure if that fits your usage model
[12:53] <sparr> I installed kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now in my normal Ubuntu interface there's a problem with the menu bar. It's transparent, and new text written to it (menus, titles, etc) overlaps with old text. How can I fix that?
[12:53] <waykool99> Puzzled... wondering whats the difference between the old school Totem/Gnome MPlayer and Videos player?
[12:58] <verb5> Hello everyone !
[12:58] <Kully3xf> hello
[12:58] <hplc> uchiha: i use motion
[12:58] <uchiha> hplc ?
[12:59] <hplc> uchiha: oh sorry, i thought u meant for surveilance
[12:59] <uchiha> yeah sort of
[12:59] <hplc> uchiha: then yes, "motion", simplest ipcam i know of
[12:59] <uchiha> i need to install 4 cams and monitor on my android
[13:00] <hplc> uchiha: motion by default supports 4 "threads"/cams
[13:00] <uchiha> how do i get it?
[13:00] <hplc> in repository
[13:01] <hplc> and conf file is /etc/motion/motion.conf
[13:02] <uchiha> hplc: dude i'm nu to ubuntu
[13:02] <verb5> does motion support ip streaming ?
[13:03] <hplc> it does stream live video of targeted area over tcp/ip yes
[13:03] <linux> hahaha
[13:03] <linux> 哈哈哈
[13:03] <hplc> port 8081 is default for watching it from anywhere, given you did the proper editing of the con
[13:04] <verb5> best way which i know is to stream cams in linux with ffmpeg
[13:04] <uchiha> english pls... do i use sudo apt to get it or what?
[13:04] <verb5> yes
[13:05] <uchiha> english pls... do i use sudo apt to get it or what?...hplc
[13:05] <verb5> motion - V4L capture program supporting motion detection
[13:05] <verb5> sudo apt-get install motion
[13:06] <uchiha> thanks verb5
[13:13] <eunsang> hi
[13:13] <eunsang> oh
[13:13] <eunsang> bye
[13:17] <linux> 有会说汉语的吗
[13:27] <moobase> I don't get it. The documentation isn't clear about multi-user.target. Is it always (and when) invoked?. Some doc says: "To configure the system to use the multi-user.target unit by default, run the following command as root: " .. suggests that it isn't always runned by default or something?
[13:46] <tpo_> hello, how can I configure grub2 to always boot into the newest (~= last installed) kernel?
[13:47] <tpo_> (some systems of mine do that, some don't. I have no idea why some do and some don't)
[13:48] <tpo_> problem in case are ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04
[13:48] <amari> Hi, which is the best OSS graphics drivers PPA for Ubuntu? Oibaf or xorg-edgers? Thanks
[13:52] <exodussian> hi
[13:55] <danileigh79> exit
[14:08] <zotta> Using libreoffice impress: Is the "Custom animation..." button suposed to do something? Because literally nothing happens when I click it.
[14:09] <turfu_> help how to install a tar file
[14:10] <verb5> :D you don't install tar you have to compile it
[14:10] <verb5> try with tar -xzvf filename
[14:10] <Pici> turfu_:  a tar file is like a zip file in windows.  You'd need to extract it and then follow the directions within.  What are you trying to install?
[14:11] <zotta> turfu_: open terminal, "tar -xf your_package.tar" "cd your_package" "./configure" "make" "sudo make install"
[14:13] <Pici> turfu_: keep in mind that it may be difficult to remove manually compiled software and that you should always search the ubuntu repositories for software first before trying to install from source.
[14:21] <mbroadst> hi I'm trying to get an upstart script to wait for an event which will be emitted by a sysvinit script, is that possible?
[14:21] <mbroadst> as in, is it possible to emulate a <service started> event using just "initctl emit"?
[14:36] <mbroadst> perhaps upstart has just been forgotten about :)
[14:38] <mbroadst> ah got it, for anyone else wondering the answer is: initctl emit -n started JOB=<jobname>
[14:41] <amors> HOLA
[14:51] <jub36> after setting up ldap in nsswitch.conf my server will not reboot
[14:51] <jub36> what would be the cause to that?
[14:52] <fabiomoog> hello
[14:52] <fabiomoog> how i use it this
[14:52] <fabiomoog> ola sergio
[14:52] <fabiomoog> hello
[14:53] <fabiomoog> anyone please help me
[14:53] <truthseeker1990> Help with what ?
[14:53] <fabiomoog> oh sorry im new in IRC
[14:54] <truthseeker1990> No worries fabio...I am a bit new as well to be honest
[15:00] <pi___> guys anyone here with experience installing ubunutu on raspberry pi
[15:00] <ingridon> Hello!
[15:02] <ingridon> Hello dear colleagues!Is here anyone who could advice with CanoScan Lide 120 detection under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? Thanks a lot in advance!
[15:05] <pi___> thats quite a random problem ingrid :>
[15:05] <Guest62603> hello, I'm installing xubuntu 15.04 from pendrive and installer "encountered a problem": [Errno 5] Input/output error
[15:05] <Guest62603> It says I should burn DVD again
[15:06] <Guest62603> but I'm using pendrive
[15:06]  * Guest62603 is confused
[15:06] <pi___> what type of file is it, have u tried mounting it to virtual drive
[15:07] <Guest62603> pi___: what do you mean?
[15:07] <Guest62603> pi___: I dd'd iso to pendrive
[15:08] <pi___> yes u cant run iso like a normal exe. u need to mount it soy our computer thinks its on CD
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> Guest62603: dd the iso to usb again, could also check the md5sum's of the image to make sure it downloaded correctly
[15:08] <bekks> you cannot run an iso like a an "exe", because an iso is not an executable.
[15:09] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat: I didn't check.. wow I feel stupid now :D
 Do you have any advice regarding this scanner issue?I know it is a common bug but is there any possible solution?
[15:09] <SchrodingersScat> Guest62603: no worries, things happen, might not even be that, but running through the process again is worth a shot possibly
[15:09] <Guest62603> bekks, pi___: but I'm not running iso as an exe. I dd'd it onto pendrive and started computer from it...
[15:10] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat:
[15:10] <Guest62603> I'll try
[15:10] <bekks> Guest62603: Then you are booting it, whats the normal use case for an iso :)
[15:10] <bekks> s/the/a/
[15:11] <Guest62603> bekks: yup :P
[15:11] <zzzz> hi gus
[15:17] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat: Of course, sha256sum differs from how it should be :D
[15:17] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat: I think I'm going to check sums every time I download something :P
[15:17] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat: Thank you!
[15:18] <SchrodingersScat> Guest62603: oh, well, that could be one reason :)  welcome
[15:18] <ShalokShalom> Guest62603: good idea
[15:19] <ShalokShalom> or just use torrents with a client, that auto check it
[15:19] <ShalokShalom> in general: dl ISOs with torrents :)
[15:20] <Guest62603> ShalokShalom: I used torrent :D
[15:20] <ludo__> debal
[15:20] <ShalokShalom> ah, i see
[15:20] <ShalokShalom> you can check the md5 easy with a client like QBittorrent
[15:20] <SchrodingersScat> Guest62603: odd, had it completed then?
[15:20] <Guest62603> ShalokShalom: I use qbittorrent xD
[15:20] <ShalokShalom> right click, i guess there is also a setting to do this auto
[15:20] <ShalokShalom> haha :=)
[15:20] <Guest62603> SchrodingersScat: yup. I'm 99% sure
[15:20] <ShalokShalom> right click, force recheck or something :)
[15:21] <Guest62603> ShalokShalom: Well, I'm going to download it again then
[15:22] <ShalokShalom> Guest62603: ofc
[15:33] <Pepe> Hello?
[15:34] <Pepe> So I have a problem and i was wondering if anyone could help me...
[15:34] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Pepe
[15:36] <Pepe> I have a poor internet connection and i am downloading something trough steam... my internet connections tels me that it is 56Mb/s but my download speed from steam is something like 50KB/s, can i boost this?
[15:36] <Pepe> !patience
[15:40] <cr45h> Pepe, are you getting slow speeds elsewhere?
[15:43] <hh271053> habe linux mint 17.2 cinnamon 64bit installiert. leider lassen sich die themen-liste nicht aktualisieren. es kommt die fehlermeldung: kein zugreifen auf den server möglich: fehler 404.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> !mint | hh271053
[15:43] <EriC^^> !mint | hh271053
[15:47] <wonkabar> hi
[15:47] <wonkabar> whats version 219?
[15:48] <wonkabar> i got this on boot
[15:48] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, not enough info to hazaad the wildest guess
[15:48] <wonkabar> ok what do you need to know
[15:48] <wonkabar> my pc specs
[15:49] <ioria> wonkabar, you booted from a different kernel ?
[15:49] <wonkabar> i was trying kubuntu 15.04
[15:50] <wonkabar> i have a pretty modern pc
[15:50] <wonkabar> 16 ggis ram i7 4770
[15:51] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, nice. what application threw the error message?  what's the complete error message?
[15:51] <wonkabar> this is not from another kernel
[15:51] <mjhszig> hey ya'll
[15:51] <wonkabar> on boot
[15:51] <ThePendulum> it's stuck
[15:51] <wonkabar> it says system 219
[15:51] <wonkabar> and something about probbe failed
[15:52] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, it'll be recorded in fuller detail in one of your logs.
[15:52] <wonkabar> i was just reading a page about these errors
[15:52] <wonkabar> k how to post log
[15:52] <ThePendulum> I don't know why, but my cursor is stuck at showing that resize pointer '->|' and I can't click anywhere. If I use ctrl+alt+arrows to try and switch workspace, it moves the cursor around
[15:52] <wonkabar> or whereis og
[15:52] <wonkabar> log
[15:53] <wonkabar> but i was told by people that 15.04 is buggy
[15:53] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, dmesg in your terminal I *THINK*.
[15:54] <baizon> wonkabar: not for me
[15:54] <ioria> wonkabar, you use nvidia ?
[15:54] <baizon> no bugs @15.04
[15:54] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, ALL OS's are buggy and "people" frequently have no more clue than you do.
[15:54] <wonkabar> i do have an old gt620
[15:54] <wonkabar> but in my pc ii have a intel hd4600
[15:55] <baizon> intel hardware -> no problems, nvidia -> many problems
[15:55] <baizon> you can blame nvidia for that
[15:55] <wonkabar> im using intel
[15:55] <wonkabar> hd4600
[15:55] <wonkabar> no nvid card inside
[15:56] <ioria> wonkabar, fresh install or upgrade ?
[15:56] <baizon> wonkabar: 219 is the systemd version
[15:57] <wonkabar> fressh install from mint cinnmaon 17.2
[15:57] <wonkabar> i ran demsg
[15:57] <baizon> also 14.10 to 15.04 update didnt work at all for me (because kde4 -> kde5).
[15:57] <wonkabar> what do you need to know
[15:57] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, sorry m8.  mint has it's own channel and is not ubuntu = NOT supported here.
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !mint | wonkabar
[15:58] <wonkabar> i dont use mint though
[15:58] <baizon> cfhowlett: i dont understand half the staff he said, kubuntu? mint? systemd?
[15:58] <wonkabar> im on kubuntu 15.04 frah install
[15:58] <wonkabar> fresh
[15:58] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, OK.
[15:58] <wonkabar> yeah :)
[15:58] <sl1rpy> there is something that makes no sense.  i installed wow and i get 30-60 fps... but when i play farmville 2 on facebook... its acting like im getting 5-8 fps...
[15:58] <Lunatic_Player> Hi! Need help, I can't install drivers for Nvidia quadro fx 1300
[15:58] <baizon> wonkabar: upgrade to kde 5.3. Becuase kde 5.2 has many problems, that solved it for me
[15:59] <cfhowlett> baizon, near as I can read, systemd is throwing an error but he can still boot up ...
[15:59] <baizon> sl1rpy: no hardware acceleration
[15:59] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, so you ARE booted up and logged in though, right?
[15:59] <wonkabar> but i have to say, if i need to upgrade to kde 5.3 thats a good sign that this 15.04 is a bit buggy vs 14.04
[16:00] <wonkabar> yes
[16:00] <wonkabar> im logged in
[16:00] <sl1rpy> baizon, and for as long as flash as been around no one has managed to get hardware acceleration in flash or at least write an open source alternative?
[16:00] <baizon> wonkabar: yes, because kde 5 is fresh
[16:00] <wonkabar> ahok
[16:00] <baizon> sl1rpy: i dont think so, but also i havent used flash for almost a year no
[16:00] <baizon> *now
[16:00] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, sounds like you're getting an error message but not being effected in any meaningful way so ... let's move on?  why worry?
[16:02] <leoubu> ciao
[16:02] <leoubu> è la prima volta che mi connetto
[16:02] <leoubu> qualcuno mi legge
[16:02] <wonkabar> no its true it not serious
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !it | leoubu
[16:03] <baizon> damn to late again
[16:03] <Lunatic_Player> Help for installing Nvidia quadro fx 1300 please
[16:03] <wonkabar> but after trying 15.04 im going back to 14.04/10
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | Lunatic_Player
[16:03] <leoubu> non conosco l'inglese
[16:03] <leoubu> devo uscire
[16:03] <baizon> wonkabar: like i said, kubuntu 15.04 isnt very stable.
[16:03] <wonkabar> ok
[16:03] <wonkabar> so which kubuntu s stable
[16:03] <Lunatic_Player> I didn't knew there where a channel for nvidia
[16:04] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, LTS is my preference but then I only install every 2 years.
[16:04] <wonkabar> lol i should have listed to people hehe
[16:04] <wonkabar> ok
[16:04] <baizon> yes, 14.04 is very stable imho
[16:04] <pi___> ~
[16:04] <Lunatic_Player> there is not
[16:05] <wonkabar> is there a diffrence between kubuntu 14.04 and 14.10
[16:05] <baizon> wonkabar: newer packages
[16:05] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, yes.  14.04 is supported for 5 years.
[16:05] <baizon> wonkabar: and shorter support
[16:05] <cfhowlett> 14.10 9 months.
[16:05] <wonkabar> but, it seems that newer isnt better
[16:06] <wonkabar> it seems like you guys are saying 14.04 is best
[16:06] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, I miss some the latest, greatest shiny stuff since I'm in LTS only but ... I also get way fewer headaches.  YMMV
[16:06] <baizon> wonkabar: yes if you want it stable
[16:07] <ManicPanic> hi, i used to connect to the net on this pc via tethering, with Ubuntu 12.04. Now that i put Ubuntu 14.04 on, i cannot connect to the internet via the tethering anymore. It starts connecting, but recieves no data.
[16:07] <wonkabar> if i use kubuntu 14.04 can i still install new packages
[16:07] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, of course.
[16:07] <wonkabar> ok
[16:07] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <wonkabar> thanx guys
[16:08] <wonkabar> you mean on 14.04
[16:08] <wonkabar> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:08] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, that command works on all *buntus and I highly advise it's regular use.
[16:08] <wonkabar> on 14.04
[16:08] <wonkabar> what does it do
[16:09] <wonkabar> upgrade kernel
[16:09] <rtreleaven> dist-upgrade will move you to the latest release. you might just want apt-get upgrade
[16:09] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, update refreshes the software list, dist-upgrade grabs all the refreshed packages in the distro ... kernel included.
[16:09] <ManicPanic> Why does the upgrade break the tethering ? Is'nt an upgrade supposed to improve on it ?
[16:10] <wonkabar> now but it wont auttomaticly install 14.10
[16:10] <wonkabar> cause i want stabilit
[16:10] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, nope.  that's  a different commnd
[16:10] <cfhowlett> sudo do-release-upgrade        if you're curious
[16:11] <wonkabar> so nvidia card are trouble
[16:11] <ManicPanic> should i downgrade back to 12.04 ?
[16:11] <wonkabar> vs intel hd4600
[16:12] <cfhowlett> wonkabar, compared to intel, maybe, but nvidia is improving linux support ... slowly.
[16:12] <wonkabar> k
[16:14] <BBLLCC> i cannot add any new addon to firefox, I can get rid of installed addons though. Help please
[16:15] <ManicPanic> any reason why internet tethering worked on 12.04, but is now broken on 14.04 ?
[16:16] <Lunatic_Player> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV38GL [Quadro FX 1300] (rev a2)             got this with lspci | grep VGA, but I don't know how to make it work, it's connected, light on the screen connected on it, but nothing displayed
[16:18] <Lunatic_Player> I already tried killing lightdm and installing NVIDIA driver 173.14.31
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> ManicPanic  start from the beginning, what have you tried so far? is it wifi or cable?
[16:20] <Lunatic_Player> But It didn't worked, and apparently the driver is already installed, but when I choose this instead of Xserver, it just say "f**k you use Xserver" and don't want to use the driver
[16:21] <ManicPanic> MonkeyDust: i connect the same smartphone via internet tethering on USB port. Its picked up by the OS, it makes a connection, but it idles. It recieves no returning data. Just sends requests out.
[16:21] <utopiah> hey #ubuntu , beside top and iotop what can I use to profile a fresh Ubuntu 15 installation and remove what slows my computer down?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> utopiah  htop
[16:23] <utopiah> MonkeyDust: thanks, and what are the usual bottlenecks?
[16:24] <ManicPanic> i dont know where the problem is.
[16:26] <ManicPanic> MonkeyDust: should i go back to 12.04 ?
[16:27] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic what is the process for a downgrade?
[16:27] <Smokie> hey guys, is there an official version of ubuntu that supports Gnome?
[16:27] <Smokie> like Ubuntu Gnome?
[16:27] <k1l_> Smokie: there is ubuntu gnome, yes
[16:27] <ManicPanic> rtreleaven: just wiping the current OS and installing the old one i guess
[16:28] <Smokie> k1l_, you think its better to use that or to install a normal version of Ubuntu desktop and then install Gnome on top of that?
[16:28] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic if nobody can help you get tethering working on your current system then that is an option
[16:28] <^Phantom^> So, for a fresh dual-boot with windows 7, on an 250gb HDD, is a 50/50 partition split a good choice? Each os gets half the drive
[16:29] <k1l_> iirc ubuntu gnome uses a PPA to ship a modified version
[16:29] <h00k> ^Phantom^: sounds about right, if that's what you're looking for
[16:30] <^Phantom^> The user is my dad. Windows 7 runs like crap on his laptop, whereas Lubuntu SCREAMS. He wants to keep windows for his games
[16:30] <^Phantom^> The Live 14.04 runs fine
[16:30] <ManicPanic>  rtreleaven: the tethering works on 12.04 and on windows. Its 14.04 thats broken somehow
[16:31] <dagonza> quit()
[16:31] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: How much disk space is Windows presently using ? As an indicator of how much can be taken away .
[16:32] <george_> hello
[16:32] <george_> nobody here?
[16:32] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic I heard you the first time. I am playing around now.
[16:33] <^Phantom^> Bashing-om: it is 7 home premium just installed so probably 8GB
[16:33] <Bashing-om> geoffb: Lots, this is ubuntu support, got a request ? Ask .
[16:33] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic do you have another interface active as well?
[16:34] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: Should then be absolutely no problem in splitting the hard deive up for both .
[16:34] <Bashing-om> drive*
[16:35] <ManicPanic> rtreleaven: i think its the new linux kernel thats breaking the network adapter somehow. But i will troubleshoot some more
[16:35] <^Phantom^> Bashing-om: He said Ubuntu was too much whizbang, likes the look of Lubuntu and the performance it gives, so this is our route. I figure a 50/50 split gives room for both OSes to have plenty of wiggle room for data
[16:36] <^Phantom^> And since I have enough know-how I will do this. I did the same on my old Dell
[16:36] <davennh> #canonical_support
[16:37] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: True, and yeah, I too like lubuntu, my preference however is xfce for the desktop. soon enough yall will learn the options ( hundreds) .
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> ManicPanic  going back to an old release is a bit drastic, better find a different solution... repeat your question here in the channel every 10-15 minutes or so, until someone can help
[16:38] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic I am sending this text over tether
[16:38] <^Phantom^> Bashing-om: oh I already run Lubuntu as my only OS on my 2003 laptop, which sports a desktop-size Pentium 4
[16:39] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: Great, but we are now drifting into off-topic .
[16:39] <^Phantom^> right, sorry
[16:41] <rtreleaven> ManicPanic when the adapter is up do route -n to see if the routing table is going to send traffic to it.
[16:41] <adrian_1908> hello. Anyone else experiencing the "outdated flash"  issue with firefox at the moment? I reckon it would apply to all regular users?
[16:42] <^Phantom^> Bashing-om: i've never partitioned before so I'll come by for help after my appointment. Bbl
[16:42] <rtreleaven> adrian_1908 is this what you are talking about http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/flash-blocked-firefox-1.3151045 ?
[16:44] <adrian_1908> rtreleaven: that looks to be it, thanks for the link.
[16:44] <^Phantom^> Oh yeah, is there a way to have Lubuntu automatically check for and install the latest flash update to prevent that issue for a not-so-update savvy user?
[16:45] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: We are here to help. IF you are not comfortable, you can take the easy way out. Let the install wizard make all the decisions . It is quite smart . " install along side" option.
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[16:46] <raskel> hello, is there anyone using kernel 4 on ubuntu 15.04? any performance improvment?
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[16:46] <adrian_1908> I had assumed a new update would be pushed quickly to alleviate this, but maybe not. I only need flash for video players, because Firefox had unsatisfactory native support for embedded video in the past.
[16:46] <Bashing-om> ^Phantom^: Flas can be an issue in linux, adobe only provides security updates, not an updated version .
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[16:46] <adrian_1908> Maybe it's better now and I'll try switching again.
[16:47] <^Phantom^> Okay, ty. I'll tackle his issues as they arise.
[16:48] <^Phantom^> Bbiab if any issues while installing when i get home. Ty Bashing-om, this has enlightened me a lot.
[16:48] <Bashing-om> adrian_1908: Ot is not Firefox at fault for flash support. It is that Adobe does not . There are other alternatives than Flash in Firefox - but not so easy for a new-user .
[16:50] <adrian_1908> Bashing-om: Ah, right. Adobe supplies (or supplied) linux binaries directly, not the Ubuntu mirrors, right? I forgot about that.
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> adrian_1908  from adobe.com : "NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux."
[16:51] <Bashing-om> adrian_1908: Correct. Proprietary code, and Adobe only provides to us the security updates for an old Flash version .
[16:52] <raskel> hey, if i want to use the newest kernel for my ubuntu, should i look over kernel.ubuntu.com for "mainline" and "wily" ? i want the stable version. thanks
[16:52] <adrian_1908> MonkeyDust: Then i'll make the switch away right now, instead of worrying about workarounds.
[16:52] <adrian_1908> Bashing-om: thanks.
[16:52] <SchrodingersScat> !newest | raskel
[16:53] <raskel> SchrodingersScat, thanks and sorry for my mistake. I do mean "the newest stable version of kernel"
[16:54] <Bashing-om> raskel: That "nned" for new kernel deserves consideration. Maybe consider if that need is great HWE ; http://askubuntu.com/questions/248914/what-is-hwe-hardware-enablement ; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack .
[16:54] <Bashing-om> "need"
[16:57] <raskel> Bashing-om, honestly, i don't know enough the version 4 of kernel, i know just it will be part of Ubuntu 15.10. I do expect to have performace improvement and that's why i want to install it. I'm using Ubuntu 15.04. I need a stable kernel. Am i gonna to make a mistake? Thanks.
[16:58] <Bashing-om> raskel: Honestly, the only way to know for sure is try it and see what results. Back up your data, IF it is a problem only a matter of minutes to (RE-)install .
[16:59] <Daekdroom> Bashing-om, the older kernel version will still be available through the GRUB boot screen. I hardly think it'll be a matter of reinstalling.
[16:59] <Daekdroom> Unless the kernel update actually corrupts his data.
[16:59] <Violetta_> hi
[16:59] <Bashing-om> Daekdroom: :) .
[17:00] <raskel> Daekdroom, i know the same. Bashing-om, i'm gonna install it with dpkg, i hope my older kernels will stay there safe. :)
[17:01] <Bashing-om> raskel: Should, the package manager is real smart .
[17:01] <EriC^^> raskel: how are you installing it
[17:01] <EriC^^> !mainline | are you following this?
[17:02] <Violetta_> hi
[17:03] <raskel> EriC^^, thanks for the info. I'm going to install it by dpkg -i
[17:03] <EriC^^> raskel: ok
[17:09] <drmagoo> I have a problem with my nvidia card. I'm running two monitors of the same card and the problem is when I wake the system up. Only the left monitor comes back to life, the right one says that it doesnt get any input signal. I've tried to switch monitors and ports with out any diffrence in affect. The left monitor is the primary one. I need to restart the right monitor for the nvidia card to notice it and then sending it a signal. here is
[17:13] <ioria> drmagoo, you run proprietary driver ?
[17:13] <drmagoo> ioria: kind of, Its a Ubuntu 14.04 system with a gtx960 card. The nvidia-current from the normal repos doesnt support that card, so I am using the driver from xorg-edgers
[17:14] <OerHeks> I know there are lots of issues with the 346 driver
[17:15] <ioria> drmagoo, did you set  nvidia-settings ?
[17:16] <drmagoo> ioria: how do you mean set? I didnt need to make any changes there. The odd thing is, that this is only a problem when the system has gone to sleep. If I reboot both monitors work (until the system goes to sleep again)
[17:17] <Violetta_> good bye
[17:17] <BrazenBraden> hey guys. I have ubuntu 14.04 using cinnamon and im trying to disable the workspace switching when my mouse hits the edge of the screen. Any ideas how to do that?
[17:24] <GreenDay> hello
[17:24] <GreenDay> what is this error please
[17:24] <GreenDay> insserv: warning: script 'moniptables' missing LSB tags and overrides
[17:25] <OerHeks> GreenDay, can you give more context? when do you get this, with what program?
[17:27] <GreenDay> sudo update-rc.d moniptables defaults
[17:29] <OerHeks> GreenDay, seems to be an LSB issue with that script, can you post that too?
[17:30] <GreenDay> OerHeks: script on iptables there https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/iptables
[17:32] <phucnt> ls
[17:33] <john___> hi I can't watch anything anymore cuz my Adobe flash player is outdated it says. How can I update
[17:36] <john___> http://askubuntu.com/questions/562035/adobe-flash-plugin-is-vulnerable-outdated-in-14-04-but-there-is-no-update-in-fir
[17:36] <christian1612> ciao a tutti
[17:37] <baizon> john___: use html5?
[17:37] <baizon> everything im watching is working for me
[17:37] <christian1612> are yuo engliesh?
[17:38] <john___> well ya. It also says with sudo apt-get"" that everything is up-to date
[17:38] <baizon> !it | christian1612
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> !it | christian1612
[17:38] <baizon> john___: disable adobe flash and use html5? that should also work on most sites
[17:39] <john___> why but it worked everything yesterday?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> john___  flash is now blocked on all websites, on firefox
[17:40] <baizon> john___: there is a vurnability in flash
[17:40] <baizon> *vulnerability*
[17:40] <kostkon> john___, http://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-now-blocks-all-versions-of-flash-player-by-default/
[17:40] <john___> why?
[17:40] <baizon> and firefox set is as disabled
[17:40] <baizon> john___: because flash is a very very bad peace of software
[17:40] <john___> so I have to turn it back on ?
[17:41] <john___> so what should I do now?
[17:42] <baizon> john___: wait until its fixed and dont use it until then.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> john___  https://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:43] <john___> use no flash?
[17:43] <john___> i cant watch anything xD
[17:43] <baizon> john___: what isnt working?
[17:44] <baizon> john___: most websites are using html5, so everything should work
[17:45] <BrazenBraden> I've tried looking in dconf-editor and general settings. All I find on google is that you can do it through the compiz settings but cinnamon doesnt do compiz so at a bit of a loss..
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> BrazenBraden  who are you talking to, about what? or was that a wrong paste?
[17:46] <BrazenBraden> no. i asked about 10 minutes ago with no response so was updating.. previous message:
[17:46] <BrazenBraden> I've tried looking in dconf-editor and general settings. All I find on google is that you can do it through the compiz settings but cinnamon doesnt do compiz so at a bit of a loss..
[17:47] <BrazenBraden> sorry.. wrong one..
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> BrazenBraden  define "it"
[17:47] <BrazenBraden> hey guys. I have ubuntu 14.04 using cinnamon and im trying to disable the workspace switching when my mouse hits the edge of the screen. Any ideas how to do that?
[17:48] <|TheWolf|> Hi
[17:48] <john___> but this only works for youtube now or not??
[17:48] <baizon> john___: youtube works without flash
[17:48] <baizon> john___: https://www.youtube.com/html5/
[17:49] <john___> yes and other websites now?
[17:49] <baizon> john___: like i said, it depends
[17:49] <baizon> all my websites work without flash
[17:49] <drmagoo> I have a problem with my nvidia card. I'm running two monitors of the same card and the problem is when I wake the system up. Only the left monitor comes back to life, the right one says that it doesnt get any input signal. I've tried to switch monitors and ports with out any diffrence in affect. The left monitor is the primary one. I need to restart the right monitor for the nvidia card to notice it and then sending it a signal. here is
[17:49] <john___> this just activates it on youtube. thx for that, but what is with the rest that wants flash?
[17:50] <baizon> john___: it will switch automatically to html5 if you disable flash completely
[17:50] <john___> oh ok let me do that
[17:51] <|TheWolf|> I would like to use fail2ban to block brute force attacks on my ssh port. However, when testing I noticed that when I use Putty to connect to my server and I use wrong credentials, just one authentication failure is logged to /var/log/auth.log even if I mistype the password multiple times. Is that desired behavior?
[17:55] <atonal> Hello, after upgrading to 15.04 my mobile broadband connection disappeared or at least got disabled somehow. Any hints how to get it back? I'm using Lenovo ThinkPad T440s.
[17:56] <john___> So I deleted Flash Plugin now. Is HTML 5 activated now automatically everywhere?
[17:56] <lucidguy> wow, was quite surprised how one removes nic bond info.
[17:56] <lucidguy> You have to remove stuff from /sys/class/net.. etc.  I find that odd.
[17:57] <baizon> john___: yes
[17:58] <john___> ok thank you very much
[17:58] <john___> for you help baizon
[18:08] <|TheWolf|> any ideas about my auth.log question?
[18:16] <Guest46640> so does everybody of you guys use html5 instead of flash now???
[18:17] <p34k> who used flash anyways
[18:17] <p34k> nobody
[18:17] <k1l_> Guest46640: even adobe thinks flash need to die. so let it die :)
[18:18] <Guest46640> ok well I was very used to it. but now it's gone. yt looks now a little different though
[18:21] <atonal> Hello, after upgrading to 15.04 my mobile broadband connection disappeared or at least got disabled somehow. Any hints how to get it back? I'm using Lenovo ThinkPad T440s.
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[18:22] <romangineer> Hey Everybody!
[18:24] <romangineer> Question... does anyone know of a way to create an alias for a package, so that when a user runs apt-get for the alias on a machine, the package is installed?
[18:28] <Bashing-om> romangineer: I hate to open a can of worms, why would you want this in the 1st place ?
[18:35] <Exagone313> hello, when lightdm loads, it shows the default ubuntu background image a fraction of a second and fade-in to show my desktop background image and the menu. how to do not show this default background? thanks for helping
[18:35] <jhoal0910> where can search drivers for bluetooth?
[18:35] <romangineer> @Bashing-om that's always a good question.  There's a chef recipe I want to consume, but it is referencing the openssl-dev package which is named libssl-dev in the source repo
[18:35] <romangineer> I swear this chef recipe worked fine before, but now I'm getting an error that it can't find the openssl-dev package
[18:36] <EriC^^> Exagone313: you have autologin enabled?
[18:36] <Exagone313> no
[18:36] <EriC^^> Exagone313: then what do you mean by it shows the default one for a sec then your users?
[18:36] <Exagone313> yes
[18:37] <romangineer> This recipe specifically: https://github.com/mobileoverlord/chef-odbc
[18:37] <noob2015> 1~
[18:37] <EriC^^> when lightdm shows up, it shows the default background, then when you login it shows your users
[18:38] <Exagone313> but my only one user is shown directly, and it loads its background
[18:38] <Exagone313> I don't want to replace the default background image by a black image, I prefer to edit a setting
[18:38] <EriC^^> Exagone313: still dont get what you mean
[18:39] <Exagone313> ok
[18:39] <EriC^^> Exagone313: you mean your user's background is shown when lightdm starts before you login?
[18:39] <EriC^^> ( login, not lock the account )
[18:40] <Exagone313> yes right, but just before that I have the default ubuntu background
[18:40] <EriC^^> when it starts or when you lock the account?
[18:40] <Exagone313> when it starts
[18:40] <Exagone313> I have cinnamon also
[18:40] <EriC^^> well that's not default behavior, it should only show the default one
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Exagone313  i guess you mean plymouth, the default is with the dots
[18:41] <EriC^^> have you installed something?
[18:41] <Exagone313> not plymouth
[18:41] <romangineer> @Bashing-om BRB have to restart
[18:41] <Exagone313> yes I installed and use cinnamon
[18:41] <Bashing-om> romangineer: OK, can not see the relevance of an alias to obtain libssl-dev ; Package libssl-dev >> trusty-updates (libdevel): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - development files >> 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.15: amd64 i386 . // To creat an alias see ' cat .bashrc ' .
[18:41] <EriC^^> Exagone313: ok, so you want your user's background to show when lightdm starts?
[18:43] <Exagone313> my start sequence is actually: grub -> black screen -> plymouth -> black screen -> default's ubuntu's background -> (fade-in) user's background with password field etc...
[18:43] <EriC^^> Exagone313: ok, type sudo -i
[18:43] <Exagone313> then
[18:43] <EriC^^> xhost +local:
[18:44] <ioria> romangineer,   maybe you need  libcurl4-openssl-dev ?
[18:44] <Exagone313> can you describe me this command?
[18:44] <romangineer> @Bashing-om BAK
[18:44] <JAyenGreen> I clone a web site, and the only difference in the file structure is that the original has SetUID permissions all over ... 'S'. When I hit the new one, files fail with no error given. If I copy the original directory retaining permissions, no problem. Why?
[18:44] <EriC^^> Exagone313: what do you mean? what it does?
[18:44] <EriC^^> Exagone313: it allows any local user to use your xserver for now
[18:44] <Bashing-om> romangineer: My last : romangineer: OK, can not see the relevance of an alias to obtain libssl-dev ; Package libssl-dev >> trusty-updates (libdevel): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - development files  >> 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.15: amd64 i386 . // To creat an alias see ' cat .bashrc ' .
[18:45] <Exagone313> I read the man
[18:45] <Exagone313> non-network local connections being added to access control list
[18:45] <EriC^^> Exagone313: ok, type su lightdm -s /bin/bash
[18:45] <Bashing-om> romangineer: From ioria "  romangineer,   maybe you need  libcurl4-openssl-dev ? "
[18:45] <Exagone313> done
[18:46] <EriC^^> Exagone313: dconf-editor
[18:46] <EriC^^> Exagone313: then go to com > canonical > unity-greeter
[18:46] <Exagone313> I edit the background field?
[18:46] <EriC^^> Exagone313: open another terminal and copy your user's background to /usr/share/backgrounds
[18:46] <Exagone313> ok
[18:46] <Exagone313> thanks
[18:46] <romangineer> @Bashing-om alias is probably not a good word, since there are command line aliases.  I was thinking if I could type "apt-get install openssl-dev" and it would install libssl-dev, that it would "fix" the issue I am dealing with
[18:46] <EriC^^> yeah, it has to be in /usr/share/backgrounds though or somewhere outside of your home dir
[18:47] <EriC^^> Exagone313: it might only work with .png too, not sure
[18:47] <Exagone313> I'll try
[18:48] <Bashing-om> romangineer: Now that is the more understandable. What is the issue you are facing ? What results when you " sudo apt-get install openssl-dev " ?
[18:49] <romangineer> @Bashing-om it's this chef recipe https://github.com/mobileoverlord/chef-odbc/blob/master/recipes/source.rb it wants to install "openssl-devel" but that package doesn't exist in the package repo
[18:49] <Exagone313> or background can be a color
[18:49] <Exagone313> I just have to set black
[18:49] <Exagone313> #000000
[18:50] <EriC^^> i think that's the background color that's shown before the wallpaper is shown
[18:50] <romangineer> @ioria libcurl4-openssl-dev appears to be a dev version of libcurl
[18:50] <Exagone313> EriC^^: in the description it is written a file or a color
[18:51] <EriC^^> Exagone313: oh ok
[18:51] <EriC^^> thought you meant the lower one
[18:51] <Bashing-om> romangineer: What release are you on ? As my prior does reflect that openssl-dev is available for 14.04 and the version available there . do: ' apt-cache show openssl-dev ' for confirmations .
[18:52] <romangineer> no package found
[18:52] <EriC^^> !info openssl-dev trusty
[18:52] <romangineer> Ubuntu 14.04
[18:52] <romangineer> It's strange, I wear this recipe worked before
[18:52] <Exagone313> EriC^^: then xhost -local: ?
[18:52] <ioria> romangineer,   maybe it's for redhat ... in fedora is present
[18:53] <EriC^^> Exagone313: yes
[18:53] <romangineer> @ioria I do see references in the recipe to redhat and centos
[18:54] <romangineer> No references to ubuntu, prob was developed for one of those OSes
[18:54] <ioria> romangineer,   maybe
[18:54] <Bashing-om> romangineer: Perhaps as ioria advised, that is a part of libgnutls-dev ? see: ' apt-cache search openssl-dev ' .
[18:54] <Exagone313> can someone give me the first line of the file /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.grub ?
[18:54] <Exagone313> (if ...)
[18:54] <EriC^^> if background_color 44,0,30,0; then
[18:54] <Exagone313> thanks
[18:58] <romangineer> I'm pretty sure the openssl-dev package in ubuntu is this one: libssl-dev - Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - development files
[18:58] <romangineer> I do apt-cache search libssl-dev I see that package
[18:59] <romangineer> In attempt to solve my problem of this recipe looking for package by name of openssl-dev, I was wondering if it was possible to give a package more than one name
[18:59] <romangineer> So that when I run apt-get install openssl-dev it actually installs libssl-dev
[18:59] <k1l_> romangineer: one package, one name
[18:59] <k1l_> sometimes the name of the package is different from the program in it.
[19:00] <romangineer> Ok, looks like I'll have to fork le repo and update it.
[19:00] <Bashing-om> romangineer: I am open to learning here also, as the package is available http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libssl-dev&searchon=names&suite=trusty-updates&section=all ; but not directly from 14.04 repository .
[19:00] <Finetundra> is there support for the xbox one controller 14.04?
[19:01] <romangineer> @Bashing-om oh, libssl-dev is there, I can see it
[19:01] <romangineer> I just installed it
[19:01] <ioria> !info libssl-dev trusty
[19:01] <k1l_> Bashing-om: its in the regular repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libssl-dev
[19:02] <Lurchy> hey everyone...whats the util I should use to set a satic IP in ubuntu desktop?
[19:02] <Lurchy> err static
[19:02] <romangineer> The solution I was considering (giving a package a second name) won't work, so I'll just update the chef recipe code.  That's the proper way to do it anyways, I was just trying to be lazy.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> k1l_: L) checking again . O do make my share of errors .
[19:02] <k1l_> Lurchy: network manager (called NM)
[19:03] <Exagone313> EriC^^: thanks it worked
[19:03] <romangineer> Thanks @ioria @Bashing-om @k1l_ for your help!
[19:03] <JAyenGreen> to ask another way, why would the SGID bit in permissions in any way cause the http retrieval of css files to fail?
[19:04] <k1l_> romangineer: well, if that recipe is for centos/redhat you will need to make some adjustments anyways. you then have a ubuntu recipe :)
[19:04] <Bashing-om> k1l_: Yep, my wires were crossed :(
[19:05] <ALFA>  CHI MI VUOLE?
[19:05] <Exagone313> I tried to edit the file /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.grub to edit the grub's background color, but it became completely black with "if background_color 17,187,34,0; then" (first line). I don't understand what the fourth number does (what opacity here?)
[19:06] <Lurchy> k1l...thanks for the info
[19:07] <Lurchy> brainfart moment.....Ifconfig for full network info screen in terminal????
[19:08] <EriC^^> Exagone313: i dont think that's how you're supposed to change grub's background
[19:08] <bubbasaures>  Exagone313 There is a grub 2 manual on line I would check it out.
[19:08] <Exagone313> i just found it here https://askubuntu.com/questions/47488/how-to-change-the-purple-background-color-in-grub/82223#82223
[19:10] <OerHeks> i would use grub customizer http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-1404/
[19:10] <Exagone313> I prefer to do it manually
[19:10] <EriC^^> Exagone313: modify the file back to the way it was
[19:10] <EriC^^> Exagone313: then type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:11] <Exagone313> I'm doing this to see if back to purple at least
[19:12] <Exagone313> EriC^^: what line I add here?
[19:15] <Exagone313> EriC^^: I found a way in this file for an image, but I want a color
[19:16] <Exagone313> but I can try
[19:18] <EriC^^> Exagone313: maybe make a black background image and use it
[19:20] <Trip_> hello all
[19:22] <Exagone313> EriC^^: I try a blue one, I restart (after update-grub) to see the change
[19:24] <Exagone313> EriC^^: it worked
[19:24] <Exagone313> I ended to customize ubuntu
[19:26] <EriC^^> Exagone313: great
[19:26] <anmename2> could someone help me install this driver for my scanner? i am not sure what to do http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=15830&DSCCHK=405295b29a97b4e570a57ce69df9097305c1a464
[19:26] <excrete> Hola.  Yo tengo una pregunta muy importante de ubuntu.  Necesito ayuda.
[19:26] <orwein> I'm creating a deb package and I'm trying to validate a certain ENV VAR on preinst, I want to stop installation if this ENV VAR is not set. So I do the check and if I find that it's not set I 'exit 1', however for some reason the package says that an error occured but keeps on to the postinst
[19:26] <bubbasaures> anmename2, Have you tried simple scan?
[19:26] <excrete> Tengo una problema muy grave de ubuntu.
[19:26] <anmename2> bubbasaures, yeah, it is telling me that it is unable to connect to the scanner, although it seems it knows which model it is
[19:27] <anmename2> also, the scanner's light is not turned on\
[19:27] <wickedcode> excrete, Que problema tienes?
[19:27] <k1l_> !sp | excrete
[19:27] <Pici> !es | excrete
[19:27] <k1l_> !es | excrete
[19:27] <excrete> Mi problema es:
[19:28] <anmename2> bubbasaures, i went to the directory once i extracted it and typed ./configure and then make and it doesn't seem to work. it probably wants me to do something else but i can't figure it out
[19:28] <excrete> Necesito hacer la caca en el inodoro.  Pero, no tengo papel de bano para limpiar mi culo.  Que debo hacer?
[19:28] <k1l_> excrete: this channel is english only, please visit #ubuntu-es for spanish
[19:29] <bubbasaures> anmename2, It is rare a driver is needed, not sure here to be honest.
[19:29] <anmename2> bubbasaures, i mean even ./configure is not working, it just not got installed
[19:29] <cofo> hi
[19:29] <cofo> im on ubuntu live and icant save... No space.. why?
[19:29] <excrete> Necesito hacer la mierda en el inodoro.
[19:29] <excrete> Tengo una cabeza de tortuga.
[19:29] <excrete> Tengo un zurullo para el inodoro.
[19:29] <bubbasaures> anmename2, I don't see a ubuntu/linux driver there is it?
[19:30] <cofo> excrete: please use english
[19:30] <Finetundra> excrete: ubuntu-es
[19:30] <anmename2> bubbasaures, http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?oid=41623&infoType=Downloads&platform=OSF_O_LINUX
[19:30] <bubbasaures> cofo, You need a persistent build.
[19:30] <cofo> i did persistent
[19:31] <cofo> http://cdn3.blogsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/usbuntu-live-creator-15.png
[19:31] <bubbasaures> cofo, It saves it in a way, it's difficult to access other than when running it.
[19:31] <cofo> with 400mb
[19:31] <cofo> please anyone with experience?
[19:31] <bubbasaures> cofo, Dude
[19:31] <cofo> What?
[19:31] <cofo> I can't install anything
[19:32] <bubbasaures> cofo, I have tons of experience, calm down.
[19:32] <Finetundra> For the record, excrete was saying something about having the head of a turtle or something like that
[19:33] <k1l_> Finetundra: yeah, he is (made) gone. so dont mind the trolls :)
[19:33] <bubbasaures> cofo, So is the persistent 400mb only, that is tiny?
[19:33] <cofo> I didn't know how much to put, he recommend 300-700mb
[19:33] <cofo> Anyway I can't install okular... .__.
[19:33] <cofo> or even change the time
[19:33] <ioria> anmename2, install this  libgtk2.0-dev      and try again .7configure
[19:34] <GreenDay> apt-get return error during install
[19:34] <ioria> ./configure
[19:34] <Finetundra> k1l_: yeah, he actually went to a different channel, but yeah I won't mind them
[19:34] <cofo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CQaTCxvc/
[19:34] <bubbasaures> cofo, I would use all 4 gigs if you have the space, you can make a partition a casper-rw as big as you want. What is the end goal so we can size analyze?
[19:34] <anmename2> ioria, ok, let me see
[19:34] <cofo> I have but i didn't know
[19:34] <k1l_> GreenDay: put the command and output into a pastebin and show the url here
[19:34] <cofo> it doesn't matter i just need help to do that..
[19:35] <bubbasaures> cofo, I suspect you are not aware of the severe limitations of a live.
[19:35] <cofo> What?
[19:35] <bubbasaures> exactly
[19:35] <Finetundra> any, what would cause wine's internet explorer to work better on debian than ubuntu?
[19:35] <k1l_> Finetundra: the wine version?
[19:36] <cofo> I could install okular before, i created the ubuntu live usb again..
[19:36] <Finetundra> k1l_: 1.6.2
[19:37] <k1l_> Finetundra: i mean using a different version on ubuntu and debian could cause a different behaviour
[19:37] <Finetundra> both are using the same version
[19:38] <truffel> Im in Grub customizer to get rid of windows boot loader and it also shows that i have several ubuntu-generic loader.Can I remove those?
[19:38] <cofo> Anyone with experience can help me?
[19:39] <bubbasaures> truffel, Is windows installed?
[19:39] <truffel> not anymore
[19:39] <cofo> bubbasaurers: what is your answer?
[19:39] <cofo> Hi EriC^^
[19:39] <bubbasaures> truffel, A grub update will remove what is needed, that customizer is a bad idea.
[19:39] <EriC^^> hi cofo
[19:39] <anmename2> ioria, i did .7configure and it returned 'command not found'. then i did ./configure and it seemed to work, i think, not sure what it is meant to return, then i did make and it returned some error, should i paste it in some website and show you?
[19:39] <ioria> ./configure
[19:40] <ioria>  configure is ok ?
[19:40] <truffel> why would i need windows boot loader if I only boot to ubuntu
[19:40] <bubbasaures> truffel, If you have more that 2 kernel sets you want removed we can help you there.
[19:40] <Neinhalt> anyone have experience using ytalk on ubuntu? me and another user that are logged in are attempting to use ytalk to talk through the terminal, but we both get [Waiting for connection..." when using " ytalk user@127.0.0.1
[19:40] <cofo> bubbasaures: I don't understand why you don't give me an answer
[19:40] <ioria> anmename2, configure is ok now ?
[19:40] <bubbasaures> truffel, So what happens when you boot the computer?
[19:40] <anmename2> ioria, i think so, let me show you
[19:40] <cofo> i guess you ignored me then
[19:41] <truffel> it ask what to boot to windows boot manager of like 3 different ubuntuloaders
[19:41] <cofo> If anyone can help me tl;dr : I can't install on ubuntu live and I set persistent of 400mb that should be enough for me.
[19:41] <ioria> anmename2, i'm tying that... your error is ltdl...
[19:41] <bubbasaures> truffel, Err start the computer, the language your using, makes it hard find the actual issue
[19:42] <truffel> I guess i just want to remove extra kernals
[19:42] <ioria> anmename2, you can solve with libltdl-dev ... but you'll get other errors... i'll pass :(
[19:42] <anmename2> ioria, http://pastebin.com/tR94X40C
[19:43] <ioria> anmename2, as  said you can solve that  with libltdl-dev ... but you'll get other errors...
[19:43] <bubbasaures> truffel, here is some info, I would not use that customizer personally, what it does is easier to just know or google. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[19:44] <anmename2> ioria, hmmm
[19:44] <bubbasaures> truffel, That is an opinion on the app, not advice persay.
[19:45] <ioria> anmename2, you'll get error: invalid conversion from 'const void*' to 'const dirent**' [-fpermissive] ... it will need some studying ... unlikly... maybe it's not a good file
[19:45] <anmename2> ioria, http://pastebin.com/DKZhgJFD
[19:45] <truffel> thx...so personally if you un-istalled windows would you remove the windows boot manager?
[19:45] <anmename2> ioria, so, do you have any advices you think that would help? :(
[19:46] <EriC^^> cofo: what are you trying to do?
[19:46] <cofo> Basically this how i installed ubuntu live on usb http://cdn3.blogsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/usbuntu-live-creator-15.png and I configure to something like 400mb. I can't install okular.
[19:47] <cofo> Mean I have no space
[19:47] <ioria> anmename2, are you sure idùs the right file ? :(
[19:47] <regedit1> hello
[19:48] <EriC^^> cofo: type df -h and see if you have space
[19:48] <anmename2> ioria, i think so
[19:48] <EriC^^> cofo: why use a persistent live usb anyways, install as usual to the usb and use a standalone installation, it's better
[19:48] <fullstack> Hello
[19:49] <regedit1> so i managed to both dual boot Windows 8.1 and (K)ubuntu 15.04, as well as boot windows and VirtualBox the (K)ubuntu. But there's no graphical desktop :(
[19:49] <cofo> i want only live and to add programs
[19:49] <cofo> I want live..
[19:49] <fullstack> For years Skype worked fine. Now after an update and reboot. Skype doesn't MIC doesn't work every time.
[19:49] <EriC^^> cofo: if you install to the usb it's basically like the persistent live one, you plug the usb and boot it
[19:50] <regedit1> how do i get graphics/video to work? do i need to disable nvidia drivers or anything?
[19:50] <EriC^^> and you can update kernels etc. i dont think you can update kernels with a persistent live usb, and i think most have a 4gb limit
[19:50] <bubbasaures> fullstack, From the ubuntu repos's or skype?
[19:50] <anmename2> ioria, are you aware of any packets that may include my driver? (for epson perfection 2480 PHOTO)
[19:51] <regedit1> EriC^^: heya, remember a long long time ago i was trying to dual boot + virtualize 2 OSs on each other?
[19:51] <EriC^^> regedit1: yeah somewhat
[19:51] <EriC^^> don't recall the virtualize part
[19:51] <anmename2> ioria, hmm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004410
[19:52] <regedit1> EriC^^: well at long last and after plenty of adventures, i am now in (K)ubuntu virtualized on windows. Both OSs reside on the physical disk (partitions)
[19:52] <regedit1> EriC^^: except video/graphics dont work...
[19:52] <cofo> I'm on ubuntu live currently. When I download something It doesn't let me because I have no space.
[19:52] <regedit1> EriC^^: i am now in weechat-curses
[19:52] <EriC^^> regedit1: why did you use a vm if you installed to the physical disk?
[19:53] <EriC^^> cofo: type df -h
[19:53] <EriC^^> cofo: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:53] <fullstack> bubbasaures, I don't know
[19:53] <regedit1> EriC^^: because sometimes i need to work in both, and most of the time i do boot straight into linux
[19:53] <cofo> seems i have space
[19:53] <cofo> but i can't install okular
[19:53] <EriC^^> regedit1: oh ok
[19:53] <ioria> anmename2, no, sorry... not now
[19:53] <regedit1> EriC^^: is there a conflict between booting into ubuntu proper and when booting it through virtualbox?
[19:54] <EriC^^> regedit1: no, just less performance
[19:54] <fullstack> bubbasaures, but I noticed the Sound settings saids Pulse audio and it never said pulse audiop before
[19:54] <regedit1> EriC^^: perhaps different graphics/video config required?
[19:54] <regedit1> EriC^^: ctrl+alt+f7 shows me black screen :(
[19:55] <EriC^^> regedit1: did you install the virtualbox drivers?
[19:55] <anmename2> ioria, do me a last favor and help me install this https://github.com/dickens/libusb
[19:55] <anmename2> please
[19:55] <bubbasaures> fullstack, IN a terminal run alsamixer and see what's there.
[19:55] <regedit1> EriC^^: oh like the guest additions stuff?
[19:55] <EriC^^> regedit1: yeah
[19:55] <regedit1> EriC^^: oh not yet, is that the only way graphics can work?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> what does ubuntu use as default PDF reader?
[19:56] <anmename2> ioria, wait, i think it is actually installed on my ubuntu
[19:56] <vito_> hi
[19:56] <vito_> :)
[19:56]  * regedit1 shoots mr corleone
[19:56] <bubbasaures> fullstack, My only concern was the repo you installed from, there are two choices, generally one or the other works, the wiki suggests the ubuntu repos version.
[19:56] <tempspace> What's the correct way to remove a patch completely and rebuild a package, I'm removing it using quilt and then it's making me run dpkg-source --commit twice in between dpkg-buildpackage runs
[19:57] <bprompt> !evince | BluesKaj
[19:57] <EriC^^> regedit1: no, usually you don't have to install much to get it to work, running lspci -k in a vm shows me e1000 as the driver in use
[19:57] <EriC^^> !find e1000
[19:58] <EriC^^> regedit: try to reinstall the virtualbox drivers packages and dkms stuff i guess
[19:58] <cofo> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/3zj3
[19:58] <bubbasaures> fullstack, if you go to settings-sound there are controls there, I have in the past had to tweak this for skype.
[19:58] <EriC^^> cofo: how big is your persistence?
[19:58] <cofo> 400mb i think
[19:59] <cofo> it says i have 15mb left only
[19:59] <regedit> EriC^^: i see something about innotek VGA compatible triver
[19:59] <EriC^^> ok, i think it's full
[19:59] <regedit> *driver
[19:59] <EriC^^> cofo: ok, delete stuff from it
[19:59] <cofo> what can i delete lol
[19:59] <cofo> i don't have anything
[19:59] <EriC^^> i don't know, i honestly don't know much about persistence
[20:00] <cofo> this .__.
[20:00] <fullstack> bubbasaures, errr! apparently it wasn't skype at all. It was some "feature" (!@#!@#!@!@#) that "detects" if the mic is plugged in or not is buggy
[20:00] <cofo> nvm
[20:00] <EriC^^> cofo: installing to the usb would be way better
[20:00] <fullstack> bubbasaures, after unplugging and plugging in a dozen times it works but this is horrible how do I turn off "you plugged in a mic" detection feature? Just use it all the time
[20:00] <bubbasaures> fullstack, I figured that, some config change in it maybe.
[20:00] <EriC^^> cofo: it's a 16gb i think and you're using only 400mb with it, and it's limited
[20:00] <cofo> What do you mean?
[20:01] <cofo> Installing to the usb?
[20:01] <EriC^^> you install as usual, except instead of choosing your hdd, you choose the usb and choose the bootloader to be installed to the usb too
[20:01] <regedit> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11879416/
[20:01] <EriC^^> then you just boot and use it and update kernels and life is good
[20:01] <fullstack> I can't spend 5-15 minutes trying to figure out the mic works or not everytime I need to make a call
[20:01] <bubbasaures> fullstack, You should not have to use it like that, I would work on getting it working, not an area I'm more than going to have to foo the web for.
[20:02] <fullstack> bubbasaures, ok just wondering if it was a latest wow around here
[20:02] <bubbasaures> fullstack, I would be sure it's not the mic first, and no no one has claimed this issue here.
[20:03] <EriC^^> regedit: try sudo apt-get install dkms
[20:03] <bubbasaures> might be the plug, could be a number of things, including user understanding. ;)
[20:03] <regedit> EriC^^: when booting into kubuntu proper i already do have dkms and nvidia drivers
[20:05] <regedit> EriC^^: yup apt-get says already installed
[20:06] <EriC^^> regedit: try to install the guest additions iso it might fix it
[20:06] <kajo> I'm trying to set a hard drive to automount on startup. I'm following the ubuntu directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions, which instruct the use of a command like this: /media/kajo --mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/1E5A07C65A0799A3. Problem is, all the terminal gives me when I try to put that in to see if it works is
[20:06] <kajo>  '/media/kajo is a directory'. what am I doing wrong?
[20:06] <regedit> EriC^^: ok will do thanks
[20:07] <EriC^^> kajo: you want to automount a ntfs partition?
[20:09] <kajo> EriC^^: yes
[20:09] <EriC^^> kajo: ok, type sudo nano /etc/fstab to add it there
[20:10] <an_knckO> hello all
[20:10] <kajo> the uuid address?
[20:10] <EriC^^> yes and the mount options
[20:11] <kajo> EriC^^: so you're saying to paste this line: /media/kajo --mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/1E5A07C65A0799A3 into /etc/fstab?
[20:11] <EriC^^> kajo: use UUID=<uuid> /media/kajo ntfs defaults,auto 0 0
[20:11] <DrGrov> Hi, running 14.04 and Firefox 39.0. Seems like Flash started acting up and will always ask me for permission to run. Do I need to change browser or will the Flash plugin be updated eventually so the message would not pop up all the time?
[20:11] <EriC^^> kajo: no, nevermind that line
[20:11] <EriC^^> kajo: do you want to mount it with certain permissions? who's the owner etc. ?
[20:12] <kajo> EriC^^: I just want to treat it like an extension of my own file system. Nothing fancy, one user system. I don't keep applications there, just files, folders, and media.
[20:12] <EriC^^> DrGrov: yeah, it'll be fixed soon i guess
[20:13] <EriC^^> kajo: ok, what's your user's uid? type id
[20:13] <regedit> EriC^^: i've selected the option to insert guest additions CD but without GUI how do i make it run?
[20:14] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, Saw an flash update today.
[20:14] <kajo> UUID: 1E5A07C65A0799A3
[20:14] <DrGrov> EriC^^: Okay, I would do not like to change Firefox for something else. So, just to keep enabling from time to time and remember on certain sites.
[20:14] <kajo> EriC^^: UUID: 1E5A07C65A0799A3
[20:14] <EriC^^> kajo: no, i mean your user's uid
[20:14] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: Are you aware there is an active vulnerability in Flash, and Moxillia has turned Flash down ?
[20:15] <EriC^^> kajo: type id , it should say your uid and gid
[20:15] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, You using noscript on flash on/off?
[20:15] <kajo> EriC^^: 1000
[20:15] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Ah okay, so I gotta change the browser then.
[20:15] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: No, I am using having Ghostery.
[20:16] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: So, I would need to change my browser then?
[20:16] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, Ah, I assume your aware of this other, use what works.
[20:17] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: So it is enough to keep adding exceptions to which sites can run Flash now and wait for the update?
[20:17] <EriC^^> kajo: use UUID=<uuid> /media/kajo ntfs defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=111,umask=111,dmask=000           0 0
[20:18] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, That is a personal thing, myself a flash vulnerability is funny, in linux.
[20:18] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: There is some discussion on the issue on ubuntuforums. one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2285878 .
[20:18] <bubbasaures> the one we use is ancient ayway
[20:18] <kajo> EriC^^: put that line into /etc/fstab?
[20:18] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Okay, so probably there is no big risk then?
[20:18] <EriC^^> kajo: yes, replacing your uuid
[20:18] <EriC^^> kajo: UUID=342423... /media....
[20:18] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Okay, thank you. Will go in and read. I just would feel sad to have to change Firefox to something else.
[20:19] <DrGrov> And I need Flash on my Finnish TV service which I get online :(
[20:19] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, I cannot confirm or deny, this is your analysis and your worries.
[20:19] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Ok
[20:20] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: Yeah, I did see that there is a possible work-a-round and still use FireFox .
[20:20] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Okay, thank you. I will read on what happens.
[20:21] <kajo> EriC^^: guess I'll restart my computer to see if it works?
[20:21] <EriC^^> kajo: no, type mount -a
[20:21] <EriC^^> *sudo mount -a
[20:22] <kajo> EriC^^: does this mount it before my desktop environment loads on startup, then?
[20:22] <EriC^^> kajo: yeah
[20:22] <kajo> EriC^^: any risks from that? Otherwise, it works great, thanks.
[20:22] <EriC^^> not really
[20:23] <EriC^^> kajo: no problem, are you able to create files with your user?
[20:23] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: But on Ubuntu, will an eventual Flash update fix the issue?
[20:24] <regedit> EriC^^: any ideas?..
[20:24] <kajo> EriC^^:what do you mean? If I double click the icon for it in unity, access it in nautilus, and then right click and select 'new file', it lets me do that. does that answer your question?
[20:24] <debianuser_> i have a dell inspiron 14 series 3000 whose keyboard model is not listed in keyboard-configuration applicati
[20:24] <debianuser_> the f1, f2, f3, keys arent working..
[20:25] <debianuser_> the remaining ones seems to work properly.
[20:25] <kajo> EriC^^: I did have to run mount -a with 'sudo', though.
[20:25] <EriC^^> kajo: you might need to let your user have rwx at the mountpoint if it's not set already
[20:25] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, You might note what version of flash is blocked  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p946
[20:25] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: As to an eventual fix, can not say .
[20:25] <EUFIz> how do i flash bios in ubuntu?
[20:26] <EriC^^> kajo: yeah, no problem in the future it will automount on boot, try to create a file in the main dir with your user
[20:26] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Yes, I got my version to be blocked and it starts showing up on all sites, unless I specfically make an exception to remember to use Flash on that particular site.
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> EUFIz: Generally you use a special utility from the manufacturer.  The OS usually doesn't have write access to the CMOS.
[20:27] <kajo> EriC^^:not sure what you want me to do. If I go there in terminal, I can use 'touch' fine.
[20:27] <EriC^^> kajo: ok, great
[20:29] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Explain this to me please :)
[20:29] <kajo> EriC^^:thanks
[20:29] <damo> hello team, i tried to dual boot ubuntu with win8.1 but at installation by mistake selected lvm and then did reboot, my all partitions now in ubuntu live cd shows as single lvm, how can i recover data of old win8.1
[20:29] <EriC^^> kajo: np
[20:29] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, Explain what?
[20:29] <EUFIz> jhutchins_wk: i begg to difer bacause i was always able to flash bios using windows
[20:29] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: I went here, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p946 and check it was Flash Player Plugin 18.0.0.203 (click-to-play) that was blocked.
[20:30] <regedit> anyone please, i am getting black screen (no graphics/video) booting into (k)ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:30] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Then I went to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ and saw this, Adobe Flash Player
[20:30] <DrGrov> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[20:30] <DrGrov> 	Up to Date
[20:30] <DrGrov> 11.2.202.481
[20:30] <tycoon> hello
[20:30] <tycoon> everyone
[20:30] <regedit> hello tycoon
[20:30] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: So, how should I really make up anything of that? Am I affected or not?
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> EUFIz: You still need the tool & procedure from the manufacturer, and it may not be Linux compatible (although more are these days).
[20:31] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, I think your a bit mixed up, ghostery is not a flash control app, noscript is, you are not using the blocked flash.
[20:31] <tycoon> i'm new to irc and want to know about?
[20:31] <regedit> tycoon: maybe
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> EUFIz: If you did it from within Windows, it wasn't with a part of Windows or with a Microsoft tool.
[20:32] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: No no, I am not doing anything with Ghostery at the moment.
[20:32] <tycoon> so tell me about how irc is used
[20:32] <orion> Hi. Which IPsec algorithms does Ubuntu 14.03 LTS support?
[20:32] <orion> 04*
[20:32] <EUFIz> but its acessible from withing the OS
[20:32] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: I am fully aware what Ghostery is.
[20:32] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: So, when I am not using the blocked Flash I am good or?
[20:33] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, I'm not your best help, I'm not even concerned in the least and it is not an area I can speak with any real accuracy in. ;)
[20:33] <Bashing-om> tycoon: IRC is many talk to many .
[20:33] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: Okay ;) I mean just that the two versions are completely unrelated, 18.x and 12.x which I am using.
[20:34] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, Yeah, I know it is that way unless you use the pepperflash
[20:34] <tycoon> if i want to talk to someone if i know ip of his computer than i can chat with him or not?
[20:34] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: So, that is a good thing yes? Or is the old 12.x version safer so to speak?
[20:34] <EUFIz> RC is run by the 1%to spy on the 99%
[20:34] <bubbasaures> tycoon, This is support not chat.
[20:34] <EUFIz> IRC*
[20:34] <DrGrov> bubbasaures: No, 11.2.x I mean :D
[20:35] <EUFIz> thats the internet
[20:36] <tycoon> just fuck off
[20:36] <DrGrov> How can I know if I am using Pepperflash for Firefox or not? Can someone clarify this for me so I can put mind to rest? I am getting frustrated.
[20:36] <bubbasaures> DrGrov, I can't claim anything in safety, I started on linux/opensource, never had an issue, so a red flag like this with flash is a good chuckle here.
[20:36] <edupt> Hello! I am using a xillinux (it is based in ubuntu). I want to connect a dongle wifi, but it isn't working. When I do iwconfig it doesn't appear wlan0, onlin "lo  no wireless extensions." and "eth0 no wireless extensions"? Can someone help me? Thanks very much.
[20:36] <on247> Hi
[20:36] <EUFIz> flash isnt opensource
[20:37] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: There is now this : UUID=<uuid> /media/kajo ntfs defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=111,umask=111,dmask=000           0 0
[20:37] <DrGrov> Hey, is no one saying anything about that swearing going on? Is that suddenly allowed?
[20:37] <on247> Hi , when i take a screenshot of a windows the tool captures my desktop background
[20:37] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: Opps, bad paste. wait one .
[20:37] <on247> Hi , when i take a screenshot of area of a window the tool captures my desktop background
[20:37] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: I thought that was a bit odd, I wondered if you had a image of my disk or something LOL
[20:38] <on247> i tried shutter and some other programs
[20:38] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: There is now this : http://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-now-blocks-all-versions-of-flash-player-by-default/#ftag=YHFb1d24ec .
[20:38] <on247> but its the same
[20:38] <EUFIz> DrGrov:its the ops that control that nick
[20:38] <on247> They are nuts
[20:38] <EUFIz> they are just baiting
[20:38] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Thank you, I will check that out.
[20:39] <DrGrov> That's nice that ops keep swearing and other users when even saying a bad word gets into a lot of trouble
[20:39] <DrGrov> Nice double morale LOL
[20:39] <EUFIz> its called baiting
[20:39] <EUFIz> they hunting for trolls
[20:39] <DrGrov> Yeah but is that correct behavior for staff?
[20:40] <EUFIz> its probablly not staff
[20:40] <on247> Hi , when i take a screenshot of area of a window the tool captures my desktop background instead of the area i selected
[20:40] <EUFIz> its above them
[20:40] <EUFIz> its higer powers
[20:41] <EUFIz> dark powers
[20:41] <felipe_> hi
[20:41] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm trying to configure the default Firefox provided by Ubuntu 15.04 (version 39) in French, and I can't find how. My system is using the French locale and the firefox-locale-fr package, but the menus and interface are still in English
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> on247  before you take a screenshot, select you "only area" or whatever equivalent
[20:42] <on247> i did
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> you select*
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> on247  what tool is that?
[20:42] <EUFIz> hey DrGrov if you are freaked out by flash exploit check this one out http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/14/hacking_team_stealth_rootkit/
[20:43] <on247> it selects that area but on the background!
[20:43] <on247> like if the window wasnt there
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> on247  does the tool have a name?
[20:43] <on247> i get nice captures of my desktop background
[20:43] <on247> Shutter
[20:43] <on247> and screenshot
[20:43] <EUFIz> EUFI has its uses after all
[20:43] <DrGrov> EUFIz: No, I am not freaked out. Just curious to know what can be done to prevent it somehow as a simple user.
[20:44] <bubbasaures> Apteryx, Might try #firefox if needed
[20:44] <EUFIz> besides lokking the computer to MS OS
[20:45] <pi_> hi everybody!
[20:46] <pi_> i just use the latest NVIDIA driver on Ubuntu MATE, that's fuck up all my linux kernel!
[20:46] <EUFIz> DrGrov: that state grade spyware
[20:46] <pi_> that was a shit!
[20:46] <pi_> anyone play planete side here ?
[20:46] <kiasor> shouldnt /ignore -channels #chan1, etc stop me seeing so much logging in and out?
[20:46] <Apteryx> bubbasaures: ok, I'll ask there. Thanks.
[20:46] <edupt_> I have a problem with my dongle wifi. The wlan0 doesn't appear.
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> on247  in shutter's top bar, there's an arrow, 'selection', click that, make your selection and hit enter
[20:47] <edupt_> can anyone help me? Thanks very much.
[20:47] <pi_> what is the dongle mark ?
[20:47] <pi_> fabricant ?
[20:47] <pi_> do you speak fr or de ?
[20:48] <edupt_> it is ep-n8508
[20:48] <edupt_> I speak only english, spanish or portuguese
[20:49] <OerHeks> edupt_, what does lspci say about the dongle? past that line here please
[20:49] <OerHeks> err lsusb*
[20:50] <on247> i do that but , it shows me either a gray area or the desktop
[20:50] <on247> ie , where there should be  displayed my current windows for selection . my desktop shows up
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> on247  yes, the desktop becomes grey, then selct and hit enter
[20:51] <on247> but the thing is that it doesent show me the current window
[20:51] <pi_> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/EDUP_EP-N8508
[20:51] <pi_> for edupt_
[20:51] <on247> i only can select and drag on the gray area
[20:52] <pi_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/236617/how-to-install-driver-for-rtl8188cus-wireless-adaptor
[20:52] <pi_> try this
[20:52] <pi_> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> on247  in Unity's top bar, there's a shutter icon ... minimize all windows, but the window yu want, then click the icon and select
[20:53] <Apteryx> ls
[20:53] <pi_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/235279/my-wifi-adapter-is-not-working-at-all-how-to-troubleshoot
[20:53] <edupt_> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:7000 Microdia
[20:53] <pi_> RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:7000 Microdia
[20:53] <on247> Im using pantheon D
[20:53] <on247> Im using pantheon DE
[20:53] <pi_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/236617/how-to-install-driver-for-rtl8188cus-wireless-adaptor
[20:54] <Apteryx> bubbasaures: I got the answer that Ubuntu does its own repackaging for Firefox locales, so they have no control over how it works on Ubuntu.
[20:54] <pi_> follow this link
[20:54] <edupt_> ok
[20:54] <edupt_> thanks very much
[20:54] <edupt_> I will try
[20:54] <OerHeks> pi_, make sure he is on precise :-)
[20:54] <on247> but still whatever windows is above it only lets me select from desktop
[20:55] <on247> like the window wasnt there
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> on247  do you have the same issue in Unity?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> on247  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[20:56] <on247> yes
[20:56] <bubbasaures> Apteryx, Ah, that's not very nice.
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> in Unity, you have tried?
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> on247  ^^^
[20:57] <tokam> Sometimes my gnome-classic sessions simply crashes and I get to the login screen
[20:58] <tokam> this is totally annoying. I assume it has to do something with window management
[20:58] <jemmastorm> what apps do you all reccomend?
[20:58] <OerHeks> jemmastorm, please don't poll here, thanks.
[20:58] <bubbasaures> tokam, If you assume this, add your rhetoric for the channel.
[20:58] <bubbasaures> why?
[20:59] <tokam> bubbasaures: ?
[20:59] <tokam> bubbasaures: I already opened a thread at ask ubuntu.
[20:59] <mat1tc> hi all
[20:59] <tokam> bubbasaures: might be a reason for the issue, that my ram is larger than my swap?
[21:00] <bubbasaures> tokam, Link to your post?
[21:00] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/617379/my-gnome-session-crashes-how-to-find-out-why-and-solve-the-problem
[21:00] <tokam> http://askubuntu.com/q/617379/222371
[21:01] <EUFIz> tokam: as rule of thumb your swap should be double your ram size
[21:01] <mat1tc> My file system seems to be stuck in read only if anyone can help
[21:01] <bubbasaures> tokam, , thanks, my interest was in you giving enough details, you made an assumption, but no cause for you assumed effect.
[21:01] <tokam> Can I free space from root and assign it to swap?
[21:01] <OerHeks> EUFIz, double? too much.
[21:01] <EUFIz> yes use gparted
[21:02] <tgm4883> that is a terrible rule
[21:02] <tokam> bubbasaures: because always when the sessoin crashes, I am either resizing or selecting a new window.
[21:02] <tokam> or moving windows e.g. from one screen to an other.
[21:02] <amnename32> hey, guys. i am back. so, trying to make my scanner to work, i messed up the file 'dll.conf' in /etc/sane.d . does anyone know where i could download the default config file so that i will replace it?
[21:02] <tokam> it just happened 5 minutes ago and I was switching tabs with alt+tab
[21:02] <DalekSec> Generally it's supposed to be about the same size, in theory so you can hibernate.
[21:02] <EUFIz> OerHeks: only a proble if you had small SSD
[21:03] <mjbrancato> EUFIz, haha I know right? 32GB of RAM is half my SSD, haha.
[21:03] <OerHeks> EUFIz, you made that rule up yourself.
[21:03] <EUFIz> no i didnt
[21:03] <tgm4883> EUFIz: no that is a terrible rule
[21:04] <tgm4883> EUFIz: the old rule of 1.5X your RAM is also a bad rule now, but did have it's merits 20 years ago
[21:04] <Bashing-om> mat1tc: If the file system detects an error, it mounts read only. maybe a file system check/repair will fix ? ' sudo touch /forcefsck ; sudo shutdown -r now ' .
[21:04] <mjbrancato> OerHeks, EUFIz. have 2x the RAM as SWAP is a rule. I read about it. But I disagree with it. What if I had 128GB of RAM. That would be 256 GB of SWAP. The OS won't even use the SWAP
[21:04] <EUFIz> if i had an SSD i wouldnt even have a sawp partition
[21:05] <tgm4883> EUFIz: I'm not sure how one has to do with the other
[21:05] <EUFIz> ubuntu uses a swap file
[21:05] <GreenDay> EUFIz: ive ssd AND swap partition
[21:05] <GreenDay> but under FEdora ;)
[21:05] <mat1tc> Bashing-om: Thanks - will try it now - back shortly
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> mjbrancato  with that much ram, you don't need swap
[21:05] <meatie> if you have a modern amount of memory, no need for swap.
[21:06] <meatie> ubuntu swappiness default is 60
[21:06] <tgm4883> There is a use case for SWAP, even with a modern amount of ram
[21:06] <mjbrancato> Mine has a swap partition. I should have just got rid of it. I currently have 32GB, but I left the SWAP in there just in case. I run a lot of stuff sometimes.
[21:06] <meatie> 10 in most cases, which won't swap out often.
[21:06] <tgm4883> but not 2X RAM
[21:06] <amnename32> someone paste somewhere their /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file for me please
[21:06] <meatie> i don't hibernate, so no use.
[21:06] <mjbrancato> I agree though. SWAPs are pointless. Yah I don't hibernate either, lol.
[21:07] <EUFIz> if you have a 1 tera + HDD theres no reason not to have a sawp 2x the ram
[21:07] <meatie> i think you're missing the point of swap EUFIz
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> amnename32  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11879693/
[21:07] <mat1tc> Bashing-om:  "sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/mat/0: No such file or directory touch: cannot touch ‘/forcefsck’: Read-only file system"
[21:07] <_jay> having issues with firefox and flash, I get warnings that I'm not up to date even though FF plugin check page says I am good. I'm curious if there is perhaps a conflict with pipelight install?
[21:07] <mjbrancato> But using your SWAP is always going to be slower than the RAM. So no point if you have 64 GB of RAM for example and not ever hitting it
[21:07] <_jay> For some reason when starting native FF the wine pop-up comes up
[21:07] <tgm4883> EUFIz: yes there is a reason. That reason being, "You don't have any use for 2X RAM swap size"
[21:08] <EUFIz> sawp is used once your ram is used up and for hibernation
[21:08] <EUFIz> you need at least the same size of ram you are using for hibernation
[21:08] <Bashing-om> mat1tc: That sorta makes sense . boot in 'recovery' mode and run the file system check from that console . else we check from a liveDVD .
[21:09] <tgm4883> EUFIz: so then any value over 1X, which is far less than 2X
[21:09] <mjbrancato> Correct, but if you put enough RAM in your computer, more than plenty, you should never hit the SWAP. Besides it's super slow.... OH that's why I can't hibernate. Who cares, I don't use it anyways
[21:09] <mat1tc> Bashing-om: ok - let me grab another laptop so I can stay on here
[21:09] <tgm4883> EUFIz: like 1.1X
[21:09] <EUFIz> 2x is good engough for me
[21:09] <Bashing-om> mat1tc: K .
[21:09] <tgm4883> EUFIz: why not 3X?
[21:09] <mjbrancato> Why not 50x? so stupid, lol
[21:09] <tgm4883> EUFIz: 3X is obviously better than 2X
[21:09] <EUFIz> if it fits your needs go right haed
[21:09] <tgm4883> mjbrancato: 51X
[21:09] <EUFIz> head
[21:10] <mjbrancato> lol
[21:10] <amnename32> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[21:10] <tgm4883> EUFIz: I finally found a reference to 2X.    Swap should equal 2x physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM, and then an additional 1x physical RAM for any amount above 2 GB, but never less than 32 MB.  https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/s1-swap-what-is.html
[21:10] <EUFIz> we got a MR obviuse in here
[21:10] <tgm4883> Then there is a math equation that is SWAP = RAM + 2
[21:11] <EUFIz> you cant go wrong with 2x the ram sixe in any case
[21:11] <EUFIz> size
[21:11] <tgm4883> EUFIz: yes you can.
[21:11] <EUFIz> it fits all use cases
[21:11] <OerHeks> with 256 gb ram, you can :-)
[21:11] <mjbrancato> EUFIz, even for 128GB DDR4 emmory?
[21:12] <OerHeks> EUFIz, now get over it
[21:12] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Ok - back on work laptop: It boots into "emergency mode" Trying fsck now
[21:12] <mjbrancato> I would have to buy a SSD just for the swap
[21:12] <tgm4883> EUFIz: Lets say I have a 500GB hard drive and 32GB RAM and need to store 450GB of data
[21:12] <EUFIz> still nothing wrong would happend
[21:12] <meatie> there is point in swapping if you have 16GB+
[21:12] <EUFIz> still nothing wrong would happend
[21:12] <mjbrancato> meatie: I agree
[21:13] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Let the healing begin, Great little OS we have here .
[21:13] <tgm4883> EUFIz: uh, yea I wouldnt have been able to store all that data....
[21:13] <tgm4883> EUFIz: that seems like bad stuff happening
[21:13] <mjbrancato> Unless, if you needed it because you run a lot of apps... in that case, you should add more RAM, not swap
[21:13] <sparchitect> SSD'S HAVE CHANGED MUH LIFE
[21:13] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: ok, so it's telling me to use e2fsck, what options should I go with?
[21:13] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: And thanks for the help, was a little lost after searching online
[21:13] <mjbrancato> I have a 15 TB RAID, and a 1 TB OS drive and sometimes that's not enough
[21:13] <tgm4883> SWAP is a band-aid
[21:14] <Novice201y> Hi. Update Center says that I cannot update from untrusted source. What to do?
[21:14] <EUFIz> mjbrancato:thats your nich need
[21:14] <on247> is not ubuntu
[21:14] <on247> well is elementary
[21:14] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Is ubuntu installed to the 1st hard drive and the 1st partition ? something like ' e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 ' .
[21:15] <tgm4883> EUFIz: unused space is wasted space. But I suppose it's your money to waste, but please don't spread that filth
[21:15] <on247> for the record it also didnt work right on ubuntu
[21:15] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: on the only hard drive, but not the first partition (it had windows pre-installed)
[21:15] <EUFIz> tgm4883: i recon your porn colection isnt filthy
[21:16] <tgm4883> EUFIz: ??
[21:16] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Maybe best we do this from the liveDVD(USB) .
[21:16] <EUFIz> i like having lots of free space on my drive
[21:16] <EUFIz> it tends to run better
[21:16] <EUFIz> but i guess you all know better
[21:17] <mjbrancato> EUFIz: not really, I have a lot of stuff. Programming apps, sites, movies, games, pictures, software, etc
[21:17] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: ok, back in five (need to hunt down my liveusb...)
[21:17] <EUFIz> or in case i need to store an huge amount
[21:17] <tgm4883> EUFIz: I think in this case, I feel comfortable enough saying yes, I do know better
[21:17] <EUFIz> you dont
[21:17] <EUFIz> you just have a inferiority complex
[21:18] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: I do feel better from a known foundation to look at the install hard drive and fix from the liveUSB .
[21:18] <tgm4883> EUFIz: well being that your argument is that "it won't hurt anything" and my argument is that "it's a waste of space and is unnecessary" I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> on247  you're on elementary OS? yhat's not supported here, type /j #elementary
[21:18] <EUFIz> tgm4883: im thru with you
[21:18] <tgm4883> EUFIz: I'm just asking that you keep that opinion to yourself
[21:18] <EUFIz> like wise
[21:19]  * tgm4883 sighs
[21:19] <on247> but i suspect that my issue isnt os dependent
[21:20] <EUFIz> sush wonderful community!
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> on247  i think it is
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> on247  i'm sure the people in #elementary are familiar with your DE
[21:21] <on247> but it isnt the DE
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> on247  elementary is not supported here
[21:22] <Eurynomos> Is there any known bug for encrypting drives not creating swap upon install ubuntu 14.04 LTS? I just noticed I have no swap after running Oracle VM.
[21:22] <on247> its a ubuntu derivative
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> on247  stop
[21:22] <on247> couldnt you at least try please?
[21:23] <EUFIz> on247: why did you say you was using elementary?
[21:23] <on247> yeah , i should have said ubuntu
[21:24] <OerHeks> Eurynomos, it is no bug, i guess. The problem is that the swap partition is also encrypted, but with a random key, so on restarting there is no way to resume.
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> on247  now you know where to go, type /j #elementary
[21:24] <EUFIz> like theres anyone in there
[21:24] <tgm4883> on247: with all due respect, people who are asking for help in this particular channel are ususally the least qualified to determine whether a particular issue is related to the distro or not
[21:24] <Eurynomos> OerHeks: Thanks.
[21:25] <on247> nobody answers there
[21:25] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: ok, got it, and running
[21:25] <pjamas> Hey folks! Trying to find out an answer to an issue with Xubuntu regarding wifi causing intterupt in audio can anyone help?
[21:25] <EUFIz> on247: try ubuntu foruns
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> on247  type /topic to find out what's supported here
[21:25] <OerHeks> Elementary has its own issues.
[21:26] <EUFIz> you never come here for help your best luck is cheking the foruns or using google
[21:26] <on247> the thing is will just reinstall base ubuntu to show everyone that still doesent work and get help ?
[21:26] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Great, ok, let's identify the ubuntu partition . ' sudo parted -l ' Which partition is marked 'exr4, and perhaps one other as 'boot' ?
[21:27] <EUFIz> on247: you can dual boot
[21:27] <tgm4883> I'm not even sure what on247's question originally wa
[21:27] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: partition 7 as "Filesystem" Ext4
[21:27] <EUFIz> dont tell that you need the space for your porn colection :)
[21:27] <tgm4883> EUFIz: oh FFS give it a rest
[21:28] <on247> yep[16:24] <on247> i having a problem with the screenshots capturing only my desktop [16:24] <on247> when i select a area of the window [16:25] <on247> like if the window wasnt there
[21:28] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: And it is also marked 'boot' under the flags heading ?
[21:28] <tgm4883> on247: and you don't think that is a WM issue?
[21:28] <on247> Maybe , maybe not
[21:29] <OerHeks> EUFIz, please keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[21:29] <on247> How i could start testing if it is ?
[21:29] <edupt> I would like my dongle wifi usb working, but it was a problem. I did something pi_ tell me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/236617/how-to-install-driver-for-rtl8188cus-wireless-adaptor but it did a error: E: Unable to locate package linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic
[21:29] <EUFIz> on247: easy to fix just screen shot the desktop and use imaged editing soft to crop it
[21:29] <edupt> someone can help me?
[21:29] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Yep. It's the only ext4 partition on there.
[21:29] <tgm4883> on247: well the best you are going to get would be for someone to try here and see if they could reproduce it (or for you to reproduce it on ubuntu)
[21:30] <on247> You dont understand
[21:30] <on247> I have a window open
[21:30] <on247> i select a area of that window
[21:30] <tgm4883> on247: that is a reoccurring theme with him
[21:30] <on247> i get instead that area but on the desktop!
[21:31] <kubast2> Hey how can I start using git ? I've Please tell me who you are. I tried to give it my github account details with commands they given but that didn't worked
[21:31] <on247> yeah , i will try to reporoduce on ubuntu
[21:31] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Oh wait, sorry, no, it doesn't appear to have the boot flag
[21:31] <kubast2> like my email and username
[21:32] <kubast2> with --global user.email
[21:32] <tgm4883> on247: heck, I would think you could even test that from a live disk
[21:32] <kubast2> and with user.name
[21:32] <EUFIz> on247: im sure tgm4883 fully understand what you are saying but its just not ubuntu so he cant help you even fully understaing the issue
[21:32] <mat1tc_>  Bashing-om the only boot flag is with the EFI System partition
[21:32] <tgm4883> EUFIz: what's your problem?
[21:33] <EUFIz> i need to flash EUFI bios from ubuntu
[21:33] <Guest97544> What's a good beginner
[21:33] <Guest97544> 's guide to Ubuntu?
[21:34] <OerHeks> !manual
[21:34] <EUFIz> Guest16301: try ubuntu for dummies
[21:34] <edupt> I have a problem with dongle wifi usb. I am trying to do working, I follow this to correct: http://askubuntu.com/questions/236617/how-to-install-driver-for-rtl8188cus-wireless-adaptor but it doesn't work.
[21:34] <Bashing-om>  mat1tc_ OK, so long as we know what we are looking at . from the liveUSB do ' sudo swapoff -a ; sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda7 ' . See if any uncorrectable errors are reported . Then we go a step further .
[21:35] <OerHeks> edupt, i was waiting for you, the answer you got didn't work, try to build the driver yourself, see http://askubuntu.com/a/551648
[21:35] <EUFIz> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Dummies-Paul-Sery/dp/0470125055
[21:35] <Apteryx> Anyone knows how to setup FGLRX/Firefox to work smoothly with WebGL? Google Maps is absurdly slow without WebGL
[21:36] <edupt> OerHeks: thanks very much.
[21:36] <pjamas> Is there an issue with the RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter in Ubuntu?
[21:37] <Guest82683> hey anyone knows how to setup pam-face-authentication in ubuntu 15.10
[21:37] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. /dev/sda7 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
[21:37] <OerHeks> Guest82683, 15.10 is under development, join #ubuntu+1 for support until release
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: A thought, does WebGL use Flash ? Firefox has Flash blocked presently due to vulnerabilities.
[21:39] <edupt> OerHeks: in the first step it says: Package linux-headers-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:39] <EUFIz> is it true that we should expect a decrease in development of ubuntu desktop now that devs are hard at work in ubuntu toutch?
[21:39] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Yuk .. OK .. run sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda7 . You are certain that sda7 is the partition that ubuntu is installed in ? YES ???
[21:39] <edupt> and the error is: E: Package 'linux-headers-generic' has no installation candidate
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> EUFIz  they are two different teams, i'm sure
[21:40] <EUFIz> or maybe a phone DE paradigm being passed on to desktop users
[21:40] <OerHeks> edupt, what ubuntu version ?
[21:40] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Yep, the others are swap or NTFS
[21:40] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Run it and lets see the fix ( fingers crossed ) .
[21:42] <edupt> OerHeks: ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[21:42] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Nother thought; the release on the liveDVD is the same as that of the install ?
[21:42] <k1l> EUFIz: the codebase from the phone will become the codebase form the desktop too.
[21:42] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: I don't think so
[21:42] <SirPepper> everyome
[21:42] <SirPepper> come to ##socialdawgs because I (Gitgud) want to get more people
[21:42] <SirPepper> free women included I am from Toronto Canada adoptz
[21:42] <k1l> EUFIz: so stuff that is worked on right now for the phone is work already done for the future desktop
[21:42] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: That I'm not sure of
[21:42] <SirPepper> owhoo
[21:43] <OerHeks> edupt, you might want to install the newest LTS 14.04, so that guide works.
[21:43] <k1l> SirPepper: no ads please.
[21:43] <EUFIz> k1l:just like windows 8.1!
[21:43] <tgm4883> EUFIz: no
[21:43] <EUFIz> thank the gods for xubuntu
[21:43] <edupt> OerHeks: it is possible to update this version without uninstall these? I am using in a zedboard.
[21:43] <volker> ubuntu is a wrong linux system
[21:43] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: May not make a difference, but not real sure if it will not ! what returns for the liveUSB ' lsb_relase -a ' ?
[21:44] <k1l> EUFIz: as an example. the new unity 8 will be based on the same base like the phone: mir. the actual unity 7 is based on gnome and x11.
[21:44] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: different version! Live USB is older (14.04 vs 15.04)
[21:44] <EUFIz> i dont like gnome much
[21:45] <pavelz> hi, I need to install a custom service into our server do I use upstart or write sysV scripts for that. it is bacula custom build
[21:45] <EUFIz> always been KDE fan
[21:45] <tgm4883> this is hardly on topic
[21:45] <EUFIz> or if GTK xfce
[21:45] <pavelz> so for server soft do I Upstart or SysV?
[21:45] <pavelz> Upstart seems enduser-ish
[21:46] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: well some errors fixed... trying to boot from the hd now...
[21:46] <TJ-> pavelz: Why not adopt whatever is used in the archive package, with whatever changes you need?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: UH oh, We may be treading in deep waters here as 14.04 is upstart and 15.04 is systemd . I do not know how compatible the file systems are, to be sure .
[21:46] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: well just logged in, so let's see!
[21:46] <k1l> pavelz: right now <15.04 upstart and sysvinit will work. but from 15.04 on its systemd as init.
[21:46] <OerHeks> edupt, sure, open softwarecenter > edit > sources, and set upgrade to lts https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:47] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: as soon as my overcrowded desktop shows up I'll give a sigh of relief...
[21:47] <Guest82683> tried to install bugtraq program on ubuntu won't work
[21:47] <edupt> OerHeks: thanks very much
[21:47] <MattDunbar> Anyone familiar with what would cause an iptables config to work on a virtual server, but fail on bare metal (physical server)? Both fresh os loads of ubuntu 12.04 minimal. For reference - https://gist.github.com/MattDunbar/a5d66cd8c5b0a00f7f18  I checked with softlayer and they say there shouldn't be any differences with the base images that would affect iptables.
[21:47] <pavelz> TJ-: compiled from sorce, package is too old
[21:48] <MattDunbar> they both have eth0 private and eth1 public the same
[21:48] <TJ-> pavelz: I meant the init script only; that should remain unchanged
[21:48] <EUFIz> is it possible to install ubuntu without Grub? because if i need to change drive from my desktop to my laptop it whont recognize the drive partition structure and will fail to boot
[21:48] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: ok it boots normally, so a definate improvement! Let me see if I can update etc
[21:48] <k1l> EUFIz: you will need a bootloader.
[21:48] <EUFIz> the sys something boot loader
[21:48] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: A sigh of relieve .
[21:48] <k1l> EUFIz: but you can reinstall or repair the grub after you changed something, with a live system
[21:49] <EUFIz> i could do with out that extra work on my agenda
[21:49] <EUFIz> can i use sys something thats used to boot cdrom and usb drives?
[21:49] <TJ-> EUFIz: As long as GRUB is in its default config it'll use file-system UUIDs and won't be affected by moving the drive
[21:49] <k1l> EUFIz: well, if you know the new boot order than you can change the grub settings prior to that
[21:50] <EUFIz> i want to use the same SSD in my desktop and laptop
[21:50] <Unknown-User> I'm trying to play games in steam, but i keep getting this same error message. http://ibin.co/28e5Paywp7aj  I can only find S2TC packages in the Synaptic Package Manager. Any ideas?
[21:50] <EUFIz> with out need to mess arounf with grub
[21:50] <k1l> EUFIz: then make sure its the same boot order on both systems
[21:51] <TJ-> EUFIz: If the installation is for UEFI, then make a copy of "/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64,efi" to "/boot/efi/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" and then it'll be able to boot using the UEFI simple media path
[21:51] <bubbasaures> Unknown-User, This mint?
[21:51] <k1l> and using uuids should make it work. and make sure both systems are on the same uefi/secureboot settings
[21:51] <EUFIz> maybe all just use puppy linux
[21:51] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Any idea why this happened? Is it a sign HD might be on the way out?
[21:51] <sparr> I've got /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 provided by libgl1-mesa-glx but programs are complaining that they can't find libGL.so.1, how do I tell them where to look?
[21:52] <EUFIz> but there hasnt been any new release in a hell of a lot of time
[21:52] <EUFIz> puppy linux did lots of thing right
[21:52] <k1l> Unknown-User: is this linuxmint? that might be due to their changes on packages and repos. so then ask them
[21:52] <bubbasaures> !mint | Unknown-User looks like a derivative
[21:52] <Unknown-User> bubbasaures: Yes sir, Mint 17.2 Cinnamon 64-bit. I already tried the Mint Help IRC. They're busy answering other questions.
[21:53] <k1l> EUFIz: but this is #ubuntu so we focus on ubuntu support in here.
[21:53] <petrvs> EUFIz: puppy linux is an infinitely poor choice, for any situation
[21:53] <petrvs> it has no purpose at all
[21:53] <bubbasaures> Unknown-User, We can't help is all a channel issue.
[21:53] <EUFIz> theres a puppy linux ubuntu based
[21:54] <EUFIz> it worked like a dream
[21:54] <EUFIz> on any computer
[21:54] <EUFIz> still the best linux i have used
[21:54] <OerHeks> ...
[21:55] <petrvs> EUFIz: if it was Ubuntu, it was Ubuntu
[21:55] <petrvs> and if it was Puppy, it was Puppy
[21:55] <Unknown-User> Back to google... Thank you, anyways. I might just change my computer over to Ubuntu MATE, had less issues with it. Still trying to learn a few things.
[21:55] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: The system mounting read only is the system protecting it's self from any additional damage. If you want to check the hard drive's health ' sudo apt-get install smartmontools ; smartctl --all /dev/sda'. Not a bad thing to do sometimes .
[21:55] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Thanks, will do this after the update finishes.
[21:56] <bubbasaures> Unknown-User, I would install the ubuntu mate for support here, ubuntu in general just does not have as many drivers pre loaded like mint, it all comes from ubuntu however in general..
[21:56] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: K and ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' to install the newest kernel .
[21:56] <bubbasaures> Unknown-User, So just a tiny bit more work is all.
[21:57] <Bashing-om> marcusti: ^ nother thought, befor I install a new kernel I always check that I have space available in the /boot partition ' df -h ' will tell the tale .
[21:57] <Unknown-User> bubbasaures: I understand, thank you very much for your help.
[21:57] <bubbasaures> Unknown-User, No prob, best luck. ;)
[21:58] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: ^^ marcusti Sorry 'bout that ping .
[21:58] <fullstack> Alright I narrowed it down why my mic doesn't work
[21:58] <fullstack> Something in Ubuntu is disabling my mic (muting it) everytime I plug it in
[21:59] <fullstack> is there a way to disable "detecting" any plug/unplugging whatsoever? why would anyone design a feature liekt his
[22:00] <Unknown-User> I have a question that might be easier to answer. I have searched through different forums and have seen different ideas; between Ubuntu and Mint, which one would offer the best gaming experience and ease of use? For a person like myself still learning how to use Linux.
[22:00] <petrvs> fullstack: it's probably set at whatever you had it set at last
[22:00] <petrvs> Unknown-User: Mint is, fundamentally, Ubuntu
[22:00] <bubbasaures> fullstack, You ever get to the alsamixer and sound to mess around?
[22:00] <fullstack> petrvs I carefully tested it. Unplug it and plug it back it, it mutes it
[22:00] <petrvs> and all GNU/Linux distros are also fundamentally the same
[22:00] <fullstack> bubbasaures, yes but when I unplug it and plug it back in it re-mutes it
[22:00] <edupt> OerHeks: it is strange, but it doesn't show any update to do. :
[22:00] <fullstack> bubbasaures, all the levels are re-adjusted
[22:00] <bubbasaures> fullstack, Can you turn it on from either?
[22:00] <petrvs> Unknown-User: so there is no useful comparison as far as "experience"
[22:01] <Unknown-User> petrvs: I noticed there are minor differences. But do these differences not count for much? And the only real difference being what it looks like and the general UI?
[22:01] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: all appears to be working!
[22:01] <petrvs> Unknown-User: pretty much only the _preconfigured_ UI, yes
[22:02] <petrvs> Unknown-User: you can make GNOME look green and mint-y on Ubuntu or any other distro
[22:02] <fullstack> bubbasaures, not reliably
[22:02] <Unknown-User> petrvs: I see. I might switch to Ubuntu just because of how helpful the Ubuntu chat channels have been.
[22:03] <Unknown-User> petrvs: And thank you
[22:03] <fullstack> this is crazy.
[22:03] <fullstack> this is horribly crazy design for no reason. a mic should be a simple thing
[22:03] <petrvs> Unknown-User: well that's a real comparison (although [even though it's against the rules] you can get help with any Debian derivative in most any channel of any Debian derivative distro)
[22:03] <petrvs> fullstack: yours is probably an edge case
[22:03] <bubbasaures> fullstack, Ah, have you tried the guest account?
[22:03] <petrvs> and not the primary design goal in action =)
[22:04] <fullstack> petrvs, its a standard Intel chipset. NUC i5
[22:04] <k1l> fullstack: might be a acpi issue with your hardware.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: Outstanding .
[22:06] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools ; may guide you in that next step .
[22:06] <fullstack> Only if I plug it in and unplug it a dozen time while testing it each time does it work
[22:06] <fullstack> This just started happening when I ran a system update
[22:07] <mat1tc_> Bashing-om: Great, thank you so much for your help!
[22:07] <k1l> fullstack: you can test if an older kernel doesnt have that bug.
[22:07] <fullstack> Should I reinstall my box from older ubuntu and never upgrade? Is that really a solution
[22:07] <Bashing-om> fullstack: A thought; is the problem still present booting an older kernel ?
[22:07] <fullstack> this is what my kernel is 3.13.0-51-generic #84-Ubuntu
[22:07] <fullstack> it looks old
[22:07] <Bashing-om> mat1tc_: :) np. we are here to help .
[22:08] <nicomachus> fullstack: that is an old kernle.
[22:08] <nicomachus> kernel*
[22:08] <fullstack> I can't remember if I disabled upgrading it or not.
[22:08] <petrvs> fullstack: not much 'standard' about 'NUC'
[22:08] <nicomachus> fullstack: current version is 3.13.0-57
[22:08] <petrvs> still not the norm, at all
[22:08] <k1l> fullstack: try a older kernel in the grub. or you can see if the enablement-stack offers a newer kernel that works better
[22:08] <k1l> !enablementstack | fullstack
[22:09] <bubbasaures> fullstack, You might lay off the "sky is falling" pronouncements.
[22:09] <k1l> fullstack: ah yeah. that is even not the latest kernel for 14.04. so run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" first
[22:09] <fullstack> k1l, I'll try that thanks
[22:10] <fullstack> also I can't see grub because for some reason text mode doesn't work for me and this Seiki 4k monitor
[22:11] <edupt> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and when I do: do-release-upgrade -p or without -p is allways say: "no new release found"
[22:11] <MidnightDevil> howdy fellas
[22:11] <edupt> what have I to do?
[22:12] <k1l> edupt: what gives you "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in the last line?
[22:13] <edupt> Prompt=lts
[22:13] <edupt> k1l: it gives: "Prompt=lts"
[22:14] <k1l> edupt: ok, that is right
[22:14] <k1l> edupt: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[22:20] <regedit> how can i toggle booting into desktop environment or tty?
[22:20] <k1l> !text | regedit
[22:21] <regedit> awesome
[22:21] <k1l> you could do a custom grub script that adds a cli only entry with the text parameter added to your grub
[22:21] <edupt> k1l: # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution.  deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ precise main restricted deb-src http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ precise main restricted  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ precise-updates main restricted deb-src http://ports.ubuntu.
[22:21] <regedit> the line that starts "linux" or init wtvr
[22:21] <regedit> ?
[22:21] <regedit> k1l: ooh that sounds fun
[22:21] <regedit> i want that
[22:21] <k1l> edupt: what ubuntu is that? is that a arm port?
[22:22] <k1l> regedit: no, the part where it says plymouth and splash etc. there needs to be added "text"
[22:22] <edupt> yes. It is a ZedBoard
[22:22] <edupt> it is arm port and FPGA
[22:22] <regedit> k1l: and "quiet" ?
[22:23] <k1l> edupt: that should work the same if (!) that sort of port is supported on 14.04 also. i am not too familiar with that, maybe ask in #ubuntu-arm
[22:24] <fullstack> k1l, does full-upgrade put the latest kernel in grub's config as default?
[22:24] <edupt> ok
[22:24] <edupt> thanks very much
[22:24] <k1l> regedit: quiet means that you dont see all the syslog messages while booting.
[22:24] <regedit> k1l: i was asking whether it's on that line with "quiet"
[22:24] <k1l> fullstack: yes. but make sure you have "linux-generic" installed to get the latest kernel
[22:24] <regedit> i dont see plymouth but i do see splash
[22:24] <k1l> regedit: yes, on that line
[22:24] <regedit> ok thanks
[22:25] <fullstack> k1l, hmmm how do I make sure of that?
[22:25] <k1l> fullstack: "sudo apt update && sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[22:28] <TJ-> FYI: valid options for the kernel command line are: a) kernel module parameters  b) initramfs init script parameters (see valid values with "grep '=\*)' /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init "), and c) the init system (for Upstart see "grep -nA4 'proc/cmdline' /etc/init/*" )
[22:29] <James_Epp> Hey guys, which printers are the most compatible with .... say..... 14.04?
[22:29] <James_Epp> brand in general. I need to tell a customer which to get
[22:29] <petrvs> HP
[22:29] <James_Epp> I figured that would be it
[22:29] <petrvs> James_Epp: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[22:33] <Vamparia> whois Compu
[22:33] <r3c0n85> hi all
[22:34] <regedit> hello, please help! no graphics/video working when logging into virtualbox (k)ubuntu
[22:35] <regedit> i am able to see the login screen graphically, but after logging in and a bit of loading - it all goes black
[22:35] <r3c0n85> I am looging for some help with OpenCPN , open source software , I cant load maps on there , is there an irc room in regards to this software ?
[22:37] <r3c0n85> I am looging for some help with OpenCPN , open source software , I cant load maps on there , is there an irc room in regards to this software ?
[22:38] <beepie> regedit, try adding 128 MB to the video memory in the virtualbox settings
[22:38] <r3c0n85> has anyone used this software before ?
[22:38] <regedit> beepie: hm i had 64 but ok i'll try
[22:39] <r3c0n85> !help
[22:40] <r3c0n85> !OpenCPN
[22:40] <r3c0n85> ubottu
[22:40] <r3c0n85> hi ubottu
[22:40] <r3c0n85> :P
[22:41] <r3c0n85> !ubottu
[22:42] <r3c0n85> !bots
[22:43] <naft> I have a problem with USB driver with some embedded board ( stm32 nucleo ) !
[22:43] <OerHeks> r3c0n85, how did you install opencpn?
[22:43] <r3c0n85> from the website of opencpn
[22:43] <k1l> r3c0n85: see their website where they offer support
[22:44] <r3c0n85> I believe they do not have any live support
[22:44] <r3c0n85> must be forums
[22:45] <naft> can some one help please?
[22:45] <r3c0n85> help with what naft ?
[22:46] <naft> I have a problem with USB driver with some embedded board ( stm32 nucleo ) !
[22:46] <OerHeks> r3c0n85, one clue: the french wiki says something about adding your user to dailout > https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/opencpn
[22:46] <r3c0n85> I have always been facinated by the !word and ubottu or other programs response
[22:47] <r3c0n85> whats dailout ?
[22:47] <k-stz> I installed the newest version of adobe-flash but firefox still says it is vulnerable
[22:48] <k-stz> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:48] <OerHeks> k-stz, Firefox has Flash blocked presently due to vulnerabilities.
[22:48] <naft> sorry I don't understand your question
[22:48] <OerHeks> r3c0n85, some group to handle the comport
[22:48] <k-stz> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[22:49] <r3c0n85> OerHeks , I think its not the user , ubuntu is not the problem , OpenCPN runs fine on the computer its just I cant figure out how to work the maps , gave 1-2 attempts but no luck so far
[22:50] <OerHeks> r3c0n85, i am not familiair at all with that app.
[22:51] <r3c0n85> its suppose to have access to the whole sea world
[22:52] <r3c0n85> OerHeks dont tell anyone its a secret ^_^
[22:52] <r3c0n85> If I can get it to work
[22:53] <r3c0n85> chart plotters are very expensive
[22:53] <petrvs> expensive ones, anyway
[22:54] <r3c0n85> a decent , nice looking one is very expensive
[22:55] <petrvs> I bet I could have one 3d printed for a dollar
[22:55] <r3c0n85> OpenCPN can do the same job :)
[22:55] <petrvs> if I had FOO expertise to do so :)
[22:56] <r3c0n85> Foo fighters ?
[22:56] <r3c0n85> XD
[22:58] <r3c0n85> found it
[22:58] <r3c0n85> http://opencpn.org/ocpn/adding_ppa
[22:58]  * petrvs puts the foos down
[22:58] <edupt> k1l: maybe my solution is to try in version ubuntu 12.04 the dongle wifi. Do you think is possible?
[22:58] <r3c0n85> http://opencpn.org/ocpn/adding_ppa
[22:58] <r3c0n85> thats for ubuntu
[22:58] <r3c0n85> there are other install pages
[22:59] <r3c0n85> I will attempt a clean re install
[22:59] <r3c0n85> see how it rolls
[22:59] <eb0t> is ubuntu a real good linux distro to use
[23:00] <petrvs> eb0t: there are worse choices
[23:00] <eb0t> not sure which one to go for
[23:00] <eb0t> what are the advantages of ubuntu
[23:00] <petrvs> eb0t: maybe you should take 30 minutes to read up on some
[23:00] <petrvs> eb0t: over what?
[23:00] <eb0t> i dont know...as a distro in general
[23:01] <petrvs> it's a GNU/Linux, ultimately they're all pretty great (compared to other OSes)
[23:01] <edupt> I would like to work with dongle wifi in ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is it possible?
[23:01] <eb0t> the good things from what i have read about ubuntu is that its very windows like and great for non techys
[23:01] <petrvs> edupt: possible, sure, but why such an old version
[23:01] <petrvs> eb0t: mmmm, well I wouldn't say it's more like windows or more non-techy than other popular GNU/Linux distros
[23:02] <edupt> because I am using a zedboard, it is a FPGA and Arm, it is not a pc.
[23:02] <petrvs> eb0t: but it is fairly user friendly, compared to other OSes
[23:02] <k1l> eb0t: you ask in #ubuntu so start with ubuntu? :)  see http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ which desktop you would like
[23:02] <petrvs> edupt: so what?
[23:02] <OerHeks> edupt, tru #ubuntu-arm
[23:02] <eb0t> i was thinking about it as apparently you dont have to know anything linux to use it
[23:02] <OerHeks> try*
[23:02] <k1l> edupt: that depends heavily on the usb dongle you want to use.
[23:02] <petrvs> eb0t: most distros offer that, but yes Ubuntu too
[23:02] <edupt> I see the drivers and the firmware are ok.
[23:03] <petrvs> eb0t: give it a try, see how you like it
[23:03] <petrvs> eb0t: give a few a try
[23:03] <eb0t> and its great because most of ubuntu community are in same boat as i would be...knowing nothing about linux
[23:03] <petrvs> eb0t: see how you like a few
[23:03] <edupt> but it is not working
[23:03] <petrvs> eb0t: well that's true =)
[23:03] <OerHeks> eb0t, come on, you have been here before :-D
[23:03] <eb0t> no
[23:03] <edupt> I don't see the wlan0
[23:04] <eb0t> ok ill try a few..thanks
[23:04] <syntroPi> !Ub∪nt∪
[23:05] <petrvs> it is odd he's asking about Ubuntu whilst using weechat, though =)
[23:05] <gagalicious> how can i make my ubuntu 14.04 crashproof?
[23:05] <eb0t> what is odd about that
[23:05] <petrvs> gagalicious: you'd have to define crashproof first
[23:05] <gagalicious> the system doesnt crash. i can run it 24/7 for 9 months and i'll be happy
[23:05] <petrvs> eb0t: odd client for use on non-GNU/Linux is all =)
[23:05] <gagalicious> my desktop i mean
[23:06] <k1l> eb0t: stop trolling. you have been here since at least last november, when you had a lot of kicks and bans in here. so stop that trolling, thanks.
[23:06] <gagalicious> not server
[23:06] <petrvs> gagalicious: try using Debian stable instead
[23:06] <petrvs> Ubuntu has no stable branch
[23:06] <k1l> petrvs: that is wrong!
[23:06] <petrvs> k1l: nope
[23:06] <k1l> gagalicious: does it crash?
[23:06] <eb0t> i run weechat on cygwin
[23:06] <petrvs> is wasting time trolling? =)
[23:06] <gagalicious> i've been running ubuntu for 4 days with crashing... not bad. i hope i can run it a month
[23:06] <gagalicious> k1l  : 14.04 not crashing
[23:07] <gagalicious> actually 11.04 is not crashing as well... i'm just worried that's all
[23:07] <k1l> gagalicious: see the LTS branches from ubuntu. they dont get the latest software versions but they are meant for running wihtout crashes.
[23:07] <OerHeks> worrie about not crashing, humor.
[23:07] <k1l> gagalicious: 11.04 is out of life. dont use that anymore.
[23:07] <gagalicious> i'm running ubuntu as a pxe boot diskless client. my only issue is... i dont know how to make my root as "read only" from nfs perspective... when i did ro on the nfs /etc/export, it boots to command line. i woul dlike to have the x gui... so i'm not sure how to get this part done
[23:08] <KungFuLemon> trying to mount an NTFS parition but i get the error "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown" is there a way without windows to clean this up?
[23:09] <edupt> k1l:  i am using the EDUP EP-N8508 dongle wifi
[23:09] <gagalicious> i opened too many workspaces... on my desktop. and a lot of windows. i have 24gb ram though and an i7 intel core... so it's fine... but if it crashes... my workspace will be ... i need to reopen them all again... that's bad. i cant find anything like macro scheduler that i can just record my mouse clicks and reopen all my desktops once again if it crashes
[23:09] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: IIRC, with ntfsfix, probably
[23:09] <syntroPi> gagalicious, not sure but you could try to use an overlay with a ramdisk (maybe look at the cdrom boots, their root is writeable afaik)
[23:09] <k1l> KungFuLemon: you can force the mount with possible data loss. best way is to reboot to windows and make it not using the "fast reboot" feature, which causes this issue
[23:09] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: and there might be an -f force option, too
[23:09] <petrvs> yeah
[23:09] <bubbasaures> KungFuLemon, I would only chkdsk it with windows.
[23:09] <petrvs> chkdsk, so awful...
[23:09] <petrvs> if you can read it, copy the data off and stop using NTFS =)
[23:09] <gagalicious> pened too many workspaces... on my desktop. and a lot of windows. i have 24gb ram though and an i7 intel core... so it's fine... but if it crashes... my workspace will be ... i need to reopen them all again... that's bad. i cant find anything like macro scheduler that i can just record my mouse clicks and reopen all my desktops once again if it crashes does anyone have a solution to this?
[23:10] <ThiagoCMC> KungFuLemon, try mount it read-only...
[23:10] <bubbasaures> KungFuLemon, I missed if tjis is a dual boot partition.
[23:10] <KungFuLemon> i can mount it fine is readonly
[23:10] <petrvs> gagalicious: the problem is if the apps crash before the session is saved
[23:10] <petrvs> gagalicious: you should really just try more stable software instead
[23:10] <syntroPi> gagalicious, read about xdotool
[23:10] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: using what command?
[23:10] <OerHeks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man8/ntfsfix.8.html ntfsfix from the ntfs-3g package, bu ti agree with bubbasaures, use windows for that.
[23:11] <KungFuLemon> petrvs: using readonly mode i can mount it fine. mount -o ro /dev/sda3...
[23:11] <KungFuLemon> i think maybe this is just a hibernation flag that windows sets in new version right?
[23:11] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: and if you use 'ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 ...' ?
[23:11] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: it can be, yes
[23:12] <KungFuLemon> petrvs: will i risk data lose forcing this? i dont have windows anymore i just removed it and install linu
[23:12] <gagalicious> syntroPi: ok
[23:12] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: you will have a greater than 0% risk, yes
[23:12] <ThiagoCMC> https://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows
[23:12] <ThiagoCMC> ;-)
[23:13] <petrvs> but IMO you have that risk using NTFS at all, because it's a terrible FS that hardly works even with the OS it was designed for (which is not the one you're using)
[23:13]  * bubbasaures goes to rebuild their V8 with a crescent wrench
[23:13] <ThiagoCMC> don't ntfs-3g uses Windows DLL anyway?
[23:13] <KungFuLemon> petrvs: lol
[23:14] <petrvs> ThiagoCMC: that seems like a question someone who cared at all might be able to answer =)
[23:14] <ThiagoCMC> :-P
[23:14] <KungFuLemon> there is an option in ntfs-3g called remove_hiberfile should i try it?
[23:14] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: ntfsfix will probably cover it, but sure
[23:14] <petrvs> ntfs-3g hasn't ever boned me
[23:14] <Vamparia> \leave
[23:14] <petrvs> I've mounted with -f and used ntfsfix many times with no problems
[23:15] <KungFuLemon> thanks for the feedback i will try ntfs fix first, and then remove_hiberfile and see wht happens
[23:15] <ThiagoCMC> you should mount ready-only, and copy our data out from it, to another ext4 device
[23:15] <KungFuLemon> petrvs: ok i will try -f first
[23:15] <petrvs> will probably just work
[23:15] <ThiagoCMC> if you care about your data.
[23:15] <petrvs> yeah, that's good advice
[23:15] <petrvs> don't use ntfs if you care about your data =)
[23:15] <ThiagoCMC> =D
[23:15] <petrvs> and backups, blah blah
[23:16] <ThiagoCMC> if you're brave, use btrfs... lol
[23:16] <syntroPi> data without backup is not important by definition :p
[23:16] <ThiagoCMC> true
[23:16] <petrvs> I don't know
[23:16] <petrvs> sometimes I enjoy being forced to start from scratch =)
[23:16] <petrvs> but maybe that just means that no data is really important =)
[23:17] <petrvs> I'm not researching cures for cancer over here, though, heh
[23:17] <petrvs> I'm not Will Smith in a bunker
[23:18] <syntroPi> just sayin, if you fiddle with it and its gone, you cant restore it
[23:18] <syntroPi> ...if you dont have a backup
[23:18] <petrvs> what if he has a perfect memory?
[23:18] <petrvs> HUH, DID YO THINK OF THAT?! :p
[23:19] <k1l> petrvs: dont asume every user that comes in here has a perfect backup plan. better to give the user a warning if there is possible data loss
[23:19] <petrvs> uhuh, we already went over that
[23:20] <petrvs> I brought it up before anyone else, according to my log
[23:20] <petrvs> :p
[23:20] <bubbasaures> know your bias
[23:20] <KungFuLemon> ntfsfix solved the issue, sorry i thought i tried this before and it failed i guess i did something wrong
[23:20] <KungFuLemon> i can now mount read/wrtie
[23:20] <petrvs> KungFuLemon: win
[23:20] <KungFuLemon> petrvs: thanks dude
[23:21] <petrvs> no man, thanks you
[23:22] <paws> hello, i am trying to convert my ubuntu 14.10 from physical to vm, using vmware convertor, and it's giving me GRUB error. I read a forum post that said this needs to be added: http://pastebin.ca/3061436
[23:22] <paws> can somebody tell me where do i add that code?
[23:23] <paws> also, my grub is : grub-install (GRUB) 2.02~beta2-15
[23:23] <bubbasaures> paws, 14.10 will go eol shortly.
[23:23] <bubbasaures> if pertinent
[23:23] <paws> bubbasaures: i will update it once its converted to a vm
[23:23] <bubbasaures> ;)
[23:24] <paws> do you know where is that grub.install file?
[23:25] <bubbasaures> bubbasaures, So you have it converted, but are minus the grub boot?
[23:25] <histo> paws: where'd you get that pastebin from?
[23:25] <histo> paws: what directionis are you following?
[23:26] <paws> histo: https://communities.vmware.com/thread/340943?start=45&tstart=0
[23:26] <petrvs> the simplest route would probably be to install 14.10 inside vmware as normal, then simply rsync your old data over the new
[23:27] <petrvs> (except for the kernel & fstab =)
[23:27] <petrvs> why're you virtualizing?
[23:28] <paws> petrvs: moving the server from physical to vm
[23:28] <petrvs> what for
[23:28] <paws> thats an old server
[23:28] <paws> and need more ram, cpu ..
[23:29] <histo> paws: It looks like their code gets put in whatever script you are using to do the conversion
[23:29] <petrvs> okay, but why virtualize?
[23:29] <Nikesh> Which is theoretically faster and easier, running Windows in a VM on top of Ubuntu, or running Ubuntu in a VM on top of Windows? (Ubuntu 15.04 and Windows 8.1)
[23:30] <petrvs> Nikesh: they're very similar operations, but since Unix is a less awful OS, I'm going to say an Ubuntu host will be faster & easier
[23:30] <Nikesh> I have to had Windows for some work software, so I bought a Windows laptop, but in general I prefer using Ubuntu
[23:30] <paws> its an ESXi server
[23:30] <petrvs> Nikesh: not sure why you'd want to do either, though
[23:30] <Nikesh> petrvs: Right, see above
[23:30] <petrvs> Nikesh: ah, yeah I'd definitely try Wine first, than us a VM guest on a Unix host
[23:30] <petrvs> s/than us/then use*
[23:30] <histo> Nikesh: then install ubuntu and run windows in virtualbox for any of your 'work' software that doens't have open source alternatives
[23:31] <Nikesh> histo: It's Citrix GoToWebinar specifically
[23:31] <Nikesh> I can use it as a client in Chromium, but I can only be a presenter in Windows or Mac
[23:31] <paws> histo: in the VMWare vCenter Converter Standalone application?
[23:32] <Nikesh> histo petrvs Can I install my official version of Windows that came with my laptop into a VM?
[23:32] <petrvs> Nikesh: probably
[23:32] <Nikesh> I'll try
[23:32] <petrvs> Nikesh: with some effort you can also boot a metal install as virtualized
[23:33] <petrvs> just to save you the trouble of rebooting to the other OS
[23:33] <petrvs> not that I would really suggest doing that =)
[23:35] <Nikesh> petrvs: Ah that's interesting. This would be easier if I could figure out dual-boot. I installed Ubuntu but it still boots straight into Windows and GRUB never comes up
[23:36] <petrvs> Nikesh: that's probably a very simple misconfiguration only
[23:37] <Nikesh> petrvs: OK. Any tips?
[23:37] <petrvs> you'd have to pastebin your /etc/fstab and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the output of lsblk -f
[23:39] <Nikesh> OK. Should I have installed GRUB to the Windows boot partition?
[23:40] <Nikesh> I'll pull up the configs though
[23:40] <doudou01> hi, is there a versioning filesystem, something like ext3cow?
[23:48] <esad> hi
[23:52] <bubbasaures> Nikesh, reloading grub is fairly easy\
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[23:56] <DonaldTusk3> we need more users
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[23:56] <Nikesh> bubbasaures: When I installed I chose 'Install Ubuntu alongside Windows'
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[23:57] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | Nikesh If you cab run a pastebin this script output
[23:57] <bubbasaures> can*
[23:58] <bubbasaures> Nikesh, So is the virt option a response to no boot?
[23:59] <Nikesh> bubbasaures: Yes