[06:32] knome: any plans on scheduling the next meetin? [06:33] Nah, we don't need one. [06:46] Unit193: you mean in general, ever again? :) [06:47] Yarp. [06:58] hello ochosi , hello everyone :) [06:59] hi sorinb__ === sorinb__ is now known as sorinb [06:59] ochosi, I didn't had the time to try the fix you told me to try [07:01] not sure what that was about, that must've been ages ago [07:01] 3 weeks ago [07:01] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 [07:01] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11976 in Settings Manager "Preferred Applications does not update default browser properly (xdg-open)" [Normal,New] [07:17] Logan: Heh, thanks for noticing that one and filing it, #792352. [07:59] bluesabre: took another look at gtk3.16 in wily and i still don't see any visual glitches or problems tbh [07:59] maybe you can check too, but seems like at least for now all is well [09:54] ochosi, oh, right... [09:55] It's a trap. [09:58] ochosi, done [10:01] knome, the time an date link in the Meetings page is wrong [10:01] i know [10:02] i'm trying to re-edit the page... [10:02] ok [10:03] ISO format string supported is either YYYY-MM-DD or YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS [10:03] YES [10:03] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Community+Meething&iso=20150720T16:30:00 [10:03] how is that incorrect? [10:03] oh [10:03] the dashes [10:03] it's changed.. [10:03] third edit for the link! [10:04] yep.. [10:04] now it's working [10:04] "Meething" ? [10:05] s/eeth/at/? [10:05] Unit193: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [10:06] silly knome [10:07] slickymasterWork, that wasn't my edit, it had been like that for ages [10:07] at least i think so... [10:07] ;P [10:07] whatever! [10:28] ochosi, question... how do i override icons that thunderbird windows use (when they are not the thunderbird icon) [10:30] knome: you mean the icons inside tb? i think you have to create a tb specific theme [10:30] iirc firefox and tb used to have their own themes [10:31] sorry, should have been more specific [10:31] but tbh i'm not using it so i wouldn't know [10:31] i want to replace icon in the tabwin [10:31] that's why i thought it might be something more generic [10:33] oh tabwin [10:33] well we ship one for the app [10:33] i presume stuff like a compose window has its own icon? [10:33] is that what you're aiming at? [10:33] actually no, that's the same [10:33] but i use lightbird/lightning calendar [10:34] oh [10:34] *that* has its own icon [10:34] and it's blurry [10:34] i see [10:34] so i'm looking to make it crisp [10:34] i really didn't know where to start, so... [10:35] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Window_icons [10:35] meh, only up to 48? [10:35] :) [10:35] in that case you can check whether the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications contains any hints and then check for the installed icon [10:36] what if it doesn't have its own desktop file? [10:37] this setup does make it "detached" from the tb main window, yeah, but the way to run it is to run "thunderbird -calendar" [10:38] have you searched in /usr/share/pixmaps for the icon? [10:39] yeah, no fun [10:40] the icons that are used are in the extension dir [10:40] (see above for the mozilla docs) [10:41] i'm just wondering if there could be any way to override it from the system [10:41] eg. based on the window name or sth [10:41] (isn't that how it usually goes?) [10:41] nope, not really [10:41] i mean yeah, gnome shell does something like that [10:42] i considered implementing something like it for xfwm4 at some point [10:42] but then again it's a lot of work, it's still a bit error-prone, it's hacky and finally it's only an alt-tab window [10:42] mhm [10:42] ... and it's better to fix applications instead if they're not providing nice icons in good resolutions [10:43] yep [10:43] well, the problem stands if TB doesn't allow bigger icons [10:43] or support really [10:44] indeed [10:44] another thing it could to is it could make the icons themeable [10:45] it's actually up to the app to allow icon themes to override the default icon [10:45] mmh, well [10:45] then you can provide icons in the size you like [10:45] or need [10:46] tb itself isn't the problem [10:47] right, then lightning has to do that [10:48] ...except tb doesn't allow it to provide bigger icons [10:48] which is silly [10:48] so how is tb itself not the problem again..? :) [10:48] i mean tb's icon [10:48] anyway, i've worked it around by renaming the window icons for the extensions so they are not found [10:48] now the tb icon is used as the fallback [10:50] what's the default icon size for tabwin again? [10:50] 64px with greybird [10:50] umm [10:50] with most other themes it's 48px [10:51] this is stupid [10:51] the size of that is up to the gtk theme [10:51] but it works [10:51] just replace the "48" icon with any size [10:51] hooray? [10:51] and it's resized to 48 [10:51] well, to any size needed [10:53] 48 is large enough to handle a resized icon from any size and not suffer from too many symptoms of the packing [10:55] will need to get back to the real icon drawing when back from the summer cottage [10:56] thanks for the debugging help anyway :) [11:00] no problem :) [11:00] yeah, i also wanna finish up the LO work [11:00] but i've been afk so much that i have a hard time keeping up with normal emails [11:00] summertime... [11:00] yep [11:01] wife's holiday ends on sunday, so... [11:01] that'll leave me with more time too [11:01] * ochosi feels there's some irony in "wife has less free time - that'll leave me with more" [11:03] Well... [11:23] maybe not irony... but a standard feature of creative spouses? [11:24] ochosi: can't find any issues at this time... saw one last night, but couldn't reproduce (scrolledwindow shadows that are just solid grey blobs in greybird) [11:24] its probably mostly patched out in ubuntu [11:26] ok, good [11:26] bluesabre: http://i.imgur.com/GCATP7X.png [11:26] seen this before? [11:27] that's the gtk3 open file dialog issue i mentioned before [11:27] yeah [11:28] thats probably a dialog with the actions on top... patched back to the bottom in ubuntu [11:30] well no, that's not what i mean [11:30] look at the list [11:30] it's really not ordered like i would want it to be [11:31] starts with Z and mixes files and folders [11:36] but, your sort direction is descending, no? [11:38] right, it still mixes files and folders though: http://i.imgur.com/vW2boNq.png [11:38] yeah [11:38] I think I remember seeing something about that [11:38] which is really really distracting and annoying [11:38] gtk feature [11:38] :D [11:38] heh, meh :/ [11:38] anyway, gotta run, bbabl [11:38] anyway, gotta take off [11:38] heh, hf! :) [11:38] seeya === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [19:35] http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-at-colegio-hispano-americano/ [19:35] love the computer lab photos <3 [19:41] The pictures must have been taken during recess :) [19:43] there are lots of laws in the US about photos of kids in schools anyway, I wouldn't want to show faces even if the photos existed [19:44] sadly true :( [20:55] pleia2: wow, that is really really nice [20:55] gotta love that wall :) [20:55] yeah :) [20:55] please tell them to send us another pic when the xubuntu mouse is there [20:55] will do [20:56] and thanks for doing this series, i really appreciate it! [20:56] sure, keeps me inspired too [22:02] very nice pleia2! [22:02] I think this is my favorite in the series so far [22:26] cyphermox: Any chance to look at 1455688? [22:29] Unit193: maybe tomorrow? [22:29] Awesome! Thanks! [22:30] I'm in a cafe waiting for my wife, we should be leaving to watch Minions shortly ;) [22:30] Coffee? I just made french press. Have fun with the movie, I hope it is good. [22:30] aye. [22:31] I'm not promising I'll get to it tomorrow, but I'll try to do that crazy merge, or at least fix plymouth to build with --fail-missing [22:31] Sure, that sounds good to me. [22:32] Also looked into plymouth some last night, and noticed the different theming dirs, meaning plymouth-theme-solar and other Debian themes don't appear to be found. Oh well. [22:32] (Not high on my priority list) [22:37] Oh heh, just lines, joy and spacefun. Nevermind. :D [22:41] ochosi: poke [22:44] A few more if you would. [22:47] ochosi: hey [22:47] ochosi: dude [22:47] ochosi: hi [22:47] :) [22:47] Unit193: acceptable? [22:47] Yes.