[01:25] <liveinstall> Hey, does the installer use ext4 by default?
[01:45] <Unit193> Yes.
[09:53] <winsux> i'm trying to install the latest vlc version (at the time of writing 2.2.1) with apt-get. using sudo apt-get update does not seem to update vlc (currently version 2.1.6). should i add the ppa repo and then fetch vlc or is that bad practise?
[09:53] <Unit193> !info vlc
[09:56] <winsux> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11876841/
[09:57] <winsux> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[09:57] <Unit193> Mhmm, vivid isn't trusty.  PPAs are hit and miss, so it'd be better to stick with default repos.
[09:57] <winsux> i visited this link and it says to run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install vlc browser-plugin-vlc (the plugin is not necessary i think), but this gives me the same result
[10:00] <winsux> i want to update vlc because i have x265/HEVC files that only v2.2.1 and up can play
[10:03] <winsux> ubottu + unit193: so the only way to update vlc is with vivid?
[10:21] <winsux> what are the disadvantages (except security) for using vivid packages?
[10:22] <Unit193> Libs, they may well not be built against the ones you are currently using.
[10:22] <winsux> if any problems arise with vivid packages, is apt-get remove enough to fix it or may there be nasty side effects?
[10:23] <Unit193> *Likely* could just remove them, sure.
[10:23] <Unit193> apt list | grep installed,loc  to see packages not from any active repos (installed, local)
[10:24] <winsux> ok, typing that command only yields this warning:
[10:24] <winsux> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.
[10:25] <Unit193> Right, so nothing local only. :)
[10:25] <winsux> alright :) but if you were me you wouldn't risk installing vivid packages right?
[10:25] <Unit193> To be clear, what you are (likely) about to try is unsupported, though I've pulled from the development release to current before. >_>
[10:25] <Unit193> Well, I don't use LTSes very long.
[10:26] <winsux> lts=long time support?
[10:26] <Unit193> Yes.
[10:26] <Unit193> !backports | Could likely request a backport
[10:27] <winsux> hmm ok, maybe i need to look for another video player that has stable support for x265
[10:31] <winsux> maybe a silly question, i'm using xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, the newest version is 15.x, does upgrading to 15.x make any difference? if i upgrade to 15.x, is it then possible to install vlc 2.2.1 with apt-get?
[10:34] <Unit193> Well, 2.2.1 first showed up in Wily, which is vivid+1 and in development
[10:35] <Unit193> (Which I'm running of course. >_> )
[10:35] <winsux> i just tried to download and compile x265 source plugin for vlc from the developers themself: http://www.videolan.org/developers/x265.html, but the link ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/x265/snapshots/last.tar.bz2 is dead :(
[10:36] <winsux> do you mean that 2.2.1 is only in vivid in wily?
[10:37] <Unit193> 2.2.0 is in vivid, 2.2.1 is in wily.
[10:39] <winsux> how did you upgrade to wily? with the terminal? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does not work as expected
[10:40] <Unit193> I'd not quite recommend it for stable use, but you'll have to change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  to prompt for 'normal', and use do-release-upgrade or the upgrade manager.
[10:40] <Unit193> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/migrating-upgrading.html#upgrading
[10:45] <winsux> i think it will be dangerous to try this on my primary laptop, maybe i should try if vivid does work? i see that vivid is indeed 2.2.0 and not 2.2.1. i am going to read the update logs first to see which vlc versions have x265 support
[10:48] <winsux> or wait, i can try to compile it from source. that way i can configure it with x265 support
[10:57] <Unit193> Or rebuild the package, yeah.
[11:01] <winsux> how can i rebuild a package?
[11:09] <solarseed> hi all
[11:10] <solarseed> How to list all running Daemons in Xubuntu (with Status of even failed to start Daemons) I need a konsolecommand...
[11:10] <solarseed> ???
[11:11] <slickymasterWork> solarseed, in a terminal window run: sudo service --status-all
[11:15] <solarseed> thx slickymasterWork
[11:18] <solarseed> slickymasterWork: I did not know the service command, but i would consider myself as a linux advanced, because I run a Gentoo LINUX Gamingsystem :)
[11:18] <solarseed> sharp as a blade :)
[11:18] <slickymasterWork> :)
[11:19] <slickymasterWork> that one is similar to rc-status, in gentoo
[11:20] <slickymasterWork> solarseed, service --status-all is for sysvinit managed daemons. the ones managed by Upstart can be seen with: initctl list
[11:22] <solarseed> thank you
[11:23] <solarseed> is there a way to turn off error reporting to the xubuntu community?? i get an error report after almost each update and it reappears on boot when I abort instead of reporting the problem...
[11:25] <slickymasterWork> solarseed sudo service apport stop
[11:25] <slickymasterWork> solarseed, if you want to disable it at boot: 1 -> sudo nano /etc/default/apport
[11:26] <solarseed> hehe you're a xubuntu-pro indeed :) slickymasterWork
[11:26] <slickymasterWork> 2 -> change the line that says enabled=1 to enabled=0
[11:26] <solarseed> can i use vim also?
[11:26] <slickymasterWork> to re-enable, change it back
[11:26] <slickymasterWork> yes
[11:26] <slickymasterWork> use any editor of your choice
[11:28] <solarseed> i like vim very much, the first thing i do after a gentoo installation (as an example) is to unmerge nano ;)
[11:28] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: upstart is the init, so there is no sysvinit.
[11:29] <slickymasterWork> noted Unit193, thanks
[11:29] <solarseed> i set the filecontents to "enabled 0"
[11:29] <solarseed> was set to one, guess that will do
[11:29] <slickymasterWork> yeaps
[11:32] <solarseed> slickymasterWork: You've got to insure your Hands!!! I had no insurance and I crushed the Face of another Guy because he punched into my back. I am only able to type with my left Hand right now: http://konsumkiller.de/img/prae-op.jpg http://konsumkiller.de/img/post-op.jpg
[11:32] <solarseed> I can only recommend Hand-Insurance for every talented LINUX Hacker :-)
[11:33] <solarseed> Wonder if my right Hand will be the same after the next OP
[11:37] <koegs> Philip Krause, 23.06.1983 :)
[11:39] <solarseed> http://hoerbuchwelle.net
[11:39] <solarseed> kernelacks.de
[11:39] <solarseed> personalcomputerprofi.com
[11:39] <solarseed> kernelhacks.de
[11:40] <solarseed> it's not good to be left with one hand in a chat :(
[11:42] <koegs> solarseed: maybe you should switch to #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[11:44] <solarseed> How do you Guys my GIMPed Logo for my upcoming Kernelhacks-Blog?? http://kernelhacks.de/kernelhacks-logo-finished.png
[11:45] <solarseed> it's quite in here, so a bit of OffTopic won't harm anyone I guess...
[11:45] <solarseed> + like
[11:53] <knome> solarseed, there's no "if it's quiet" policy, please keep non-support discussion to #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <solarseed> k knome
[16:16] <ManicPanic> any reason why internet tethering worked on 12.04, but is now broken on 14.04 ?
[16:21] <lopta> Are you tethering via WiFi, Bluetooth or something else?
[16:22] <ManicPanic> lopta: via USB to a smartphone. Its the same phone used in 12.04 it worked fine. But broken in 14.04
[16:23] <ManicPanic> i connect the same smartphone via internet tethering on USB port. Its picked up by the OS, it makes a connection, but it idles. It recieves no returning data. Just sends requests out
[16:23] <winsux> unit193: it looks like my problem is solved :) i added this ppa with apt-get: ppa:mc3man/trusty-media. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get vlc-plugin-libde265
[16:24] <lopta> ManicPanic: Interesting.
[16:25] <ManicPanic> i dunno where what is wrong
[16:25] <ManicPanic> should i go back to 12.04 ?
[16:25] <holstein> could be a support regression..
[16:26] <holstein> 12.04's repos are up for a bit longer.. id say, if you are getting what you need there, thats one way to go
[16:26] <holstein> ManicPanic: are you up to date with all upgrades?
[16:27] <ManicPanic> holstein: yes.
[16:27] <holstein> ManicPanic: have you found a bug, related to your hardware?
[16:29] <lopta> ManicPanic: Have you tried 15.04?
[16:30] <ManicPanic> holstein: just in the "Additional Drivers" section it shows Wireless adapter is not working. It gives "Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver" as an option but i cant select it
[16:30] <hellslinger> hello everyone, does anyone know how to prevent xfce4-notifyd from stealing focus?
[16:30] <holstein> yeah.. if you can easily setup your test scenario in a live environment, it may be helpful to know if it works with the 15.04 kernel, with your hardware.. what is the hardware?
[16:30] <holstein> ah.. yes.. broadcom can be challenging.. i would see that you are using the same driver you were using before, if possible..
[16:31] <holstein> me? i personally just pull those problematic broadcom chips out, and swap for more "linux friendly" ones.. could be, something in the newer kernels doenst work with the modules you were using in 12.04..
[16:31] <holstein> i would think, there would be a bug related to your specific broadcom hardware.. which is what? ... im sure a volunteer could assist searching with you
[16:31] <ManicPanic> holstein: i cant use 15.04 , laptop is only 1GB RAM
[16:32] <lopta> Will 15.04 not work if you only have 1G RAM?
[16:32] <holstein> ManicPanic: 15.04 doenst require more than 1gb of ram, here.. but, again.. thats not really a "fix". just something to help troubleshoot
[16:33] <ManicPanic> holstein: yes thats true
[16:33] <ManicPanic> i will troubleshoot some more, hopefully get it working , thanks
[19:23] <sleezio> anyone else having the issue with flash? i tried to vire a youtube vid, flash tells me it's vulernable and to check for updates, sure enough, there was an update for flash, so i install, still 'vulnerable', so i tried a full reboot, still errors
[19:23] <sleezio> ugh, vire - view
[19:24] <holstein> sleezio: i always have issues with flash.. especially since they dont release a version for linux anymore.. but, i can usually do ok with the pepperflash version that they supply for google., have you tried that? also, you may just have to check and see if you are *actually* vulnerable, and opt out of messages..
[19:26] <sleezio> aaah, http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/two-new-flash-exploits-surface-from-hacking-team-combine-with-java-0-day/
[20:46] <Elon_MuSk> Why is my ATI Radeon HD graphics card's propietary drivers not showing in (Additional Drivers section?
[20:47] <Elon_MuSk> It used to be there on older versions of the OS
[21:15] <iliekturtles2> hey guys I am having a lot of problems
[21:16] <iliekturtles2> I used to run xubuntu 14.04 then switched to mint 17.1,  when I upgraded to mint 17.2 I kept getting black screens when I booted, recovery mode did work.  I tried going back to 17.1 and then back to xubuntu 14.04 but still getting same result nothing in bios has changed, secure boot is still disabled
[21:26] <lopta> Oh dear.
[21:26] <lopta> I tried the dist. upgrade tool and everything disappeared from my desktop.
[21:27] <lopta> (icons, panels etc.)
[21:47] <sparr> I'm trying to run google-chrome on xubuntu 15.04 and it's core dumping after a bunch of errors to the console, the last one being "Failed to load libGL.so.1: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[21:48] <marcosnils> hey there, does anyone know why Xchat was removed in the last xubuntu distro?. Is it still recommended?
[21:50] <lopta> Is Xchat an IRC client?
[21:50] <sparr> yes
[21:50] <sparr> xchat is an irc client
[21:50] <lopta> Ah, ok.
[21:54] <Unit193> sparr: You can still use it, or another one.
[21:55] <Unit193> Erm, I meant that to be marcosnils.
[21:55] <marcosnils> Unit193, I know.. just wondering the decision to remove it from the main distro
[21:55] <Unit193> xchat isn't the most maintained, so many move to hexchat, a fork.
[21:56] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-10-beta-1/ lists that.
[21:56] <marcosnils> Unit193, agree. Guess It's time to go to irssi
[21:56] <Unit193> Good plan! ;)
[21:56] <marcosnils> :)
[21:56] <marcosnils> thx