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| MikeRL | I hate to be a nag, but I'm curious if Thunderbird 38 will ever come to the main PPAs. I got a security update from the Mozilla Security PPA, but I wonder since I believe Gmail will only work with the new version cause of OAuth 1.0 being dropped. | 19:47 |
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| MikeRL | I don't want to push, and I imagine there are more important things to do, but I am just curious how you guys update the older Thunderbird versions. Do you wait till a few stable releases have been released to a major revision, and then make them with Ubuntu specific patches? | 19:48 |
| MikeRL | I am starting to think 38.1.0 is still in testing, considering this unofficial PPA mentions it being in beta, and has a build from a week ago. https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/mozilla | 19:53 |
| MikeRL | My assumption is, that to make things easier to manage for you guys, is that you stick to older ESRs a little longer than the Mozilla builds do, so you can take more time testing any Ubuntu-specific patches. I mean, I believe some developers already have enough work here, and have Chromium to do as well. | 19:56 |
| MikeRL | Aww crud nuggets. Everyone is busy. Nobody to listen to my rants. :'( | 19:59 |
| mdeslaur | MikeRL: the main PPAs, I have no idea, but the main distro, yes | 20:09 |
| MikeRL | OK, thanks. | 20:15 |
| MikeRL | mdeslaur, isn't 38 still in development? (within regards to the Ubuntu specific version). I know 38.1.0 has been released by Mozilla. | 20:16 |
| mdeslaur | I assume we'll be switching to 38.x soon | 20:17 |
| mdeslaur | once they stop making 31.x releases | 20:18 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: why 31.8.0 instead of 38.1.0? | 20:19 |
| mdeslaur | (man those versions are confusing...) | 20:19 |
| MikeRL | Likely to spare him some time. | 20:22 |
| MikeRL | Doesn't he also work on Chromium? | 20:23 |
| mdeslaur | not chromium, no, he works on oxide | 20:24 |
| MikeRL | You know what's f'd up? Years ago, every piece of Google software got first class Linux support. I had barely any bigtime games to Play. Now, I have countless Steam games and Humble Bundle ports. But Play Music Manager needs workarounds, Earth isn't being patched at the same rate on Linux, etc. | 20:25 |
| MikeRL | Stinking Google. | 20:25 |
| MikeRL | Not anyone's fault around here. | 20:25 |
| MikeRL | I wonder if Google is just milking Linux at times. | 20:25 |
| MikeRL | Also, if closed stuff is coming to Linux more and more via official ports, why is Google getting so lazy? | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | we'll update thunderbird to 38 - 31.8.0 is a stop-gap because I just don't have time to test the update to 38.1 just yet (been consumed by Firefox and other things all week) | 20:27 |
| MikeRL | Thought there was a good enough reason. | 20:27 |
| MikeRL | Better than being screwed 110%. | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | also, updates from 31.7.0 -> 38.1 are currently manual when using upstream builds | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | so there's not really any rush | 20:28 |
| MikeRL | It could be worse - you could be in charge of Flash or IE development. | 20:28 |
| MikeRL | I wish Google just made Flash click to play. I assume they refuse to because of their ads. | 20:30 |
| mdeslaur | MikeRL: that sounds likely | 20:30 |
| MikeRL | Had it click to play since I realized a lot of crap uses it and then slows down my low end POS desktop. | 20:31 |
| MikeRL | Plus, Flash is mostly unnecessary unless you have no choice but to view something in Flash. | 20:32 |
| mdeslaur | it's quite unfortunate that a _lot_ of videos still require flash | 20:33 |
| MikeRL | Try Greasemonkey and Viewtube. | 20:37 |
| MikeRL | Back after X acted funny and needed to die. | 20:50 |
| MikeRL | Sometimes I really despise that antiquated X Window System. | 20:51 |
| MikeRL | First, keyboard and mouse acts up in Half Life 2. Then, the Unity launcher refused to group things like normal. | 20:52 |
| micahg | I meant to help with Thunderbird 38 and haven't had a chance to dive back in | 21:10 |
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