[14:16] <elopio> hello vila.
[14:16] <elopio> how are you?
[14:16] <vila> elopio: hey ! Fine, lots to do though setting up various test envs :-)
[14:17] <elopio> vila: I can imagine. Exciting times ahead :)
[14:17] <vila> yup !
[14:17] <vila> elopio: how about you ?
[14:18] <elopio> vila: doing good :) Lots of devices to play with, I need a bigger desk now.
[14:18] <vila> hehe
[14:18] <vila> elopio: I got my cubox running trusty, I'm digging to put snappy there too
[14:20] <elopio> vila: what do you use it for?
[14:21] <vila> elopio: test box for now, once I don't need it anymore, I'd like to put a freedombox on it and owncloud, stuff like that
[14:47] <balloons> good day to you both vila and elopio
[14:48] <vila> balloons: and good day to you sir !
[16:22] <elopio> hello balloons!
[16:26] <balloons> Hola elopio. es pruebas de ubuntu! Ahora, con más español :-)
[16:37] <elopio> balloons: "es pruebas de ubuntu", no entiendo :)
[16:38] <elopio> balloons: hey, you should dogfood your ubuntu phone in spanish. Test the nice translations that rvr and the community are doing.
[16:38] <rvr> :)
[16:39] <balloons> ;-( pruebas de software, así que pensé "pruebas de ubuntu" para "Ubuntu Testing?"
[16:39] <balloons> elopio, buena idea!
[16:40] <elopio> balloons: sí, "pruebas de ubuntu" está bien. Lo que no entiendí fue el contexto.
[16:44] <balloons> elopio, pura vida. The context is whatever conversation is happening in my brain. That can make for some weird statements I know ;-)
[16:45] <elopio> balloons: I'm just noticing that we generally are not in sync, and the language is not the problem as I thought before :)
[16:46] <balloons> hehe
[16:49] <balloons> elopio, tú ser más loco como mí? You just need to be crazier like me.. it would all make sense then right?
[16:56] <elopio> balloons: "tu solo tienes que ser más loco, como yo"
[16:56] <elopio> yes, or you have to slow donw like me. Both will work.
[20:13] <josharenson> ping cachio?
[20:16] <cachio> josharenson, yes
[20:16] <josharenson> Question about https://trello.com/c/1uw3r2ZN/111-qa-supplied-helpers-integrated-into-upstream-unity8-along-with-tests-to-indicate-break-item1-shell
[20:16] <josharenson> Just a bit confused about where this https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-system-tests/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu_system_tests/helpers/unity8/shell.py is suppose to go
[20:17] <josharenson> cachio: some of it seems redundant (except for get_number_of_sessions) and I just wanted to clarify
[20:20] <cachio> josharenson, I'm not sure because I didn't work on this, let me take a look
[20:21] <josharenson> cachio: sure thing, elopio said you were the best person to talk to about it, but take all the time you need
[20:26] <cachio> josharenson, ok, sorry for the delay
[20:26] <cachio> josharenson, by the way the path is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-system-tests/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu_system_tests/helpers/unity8/shell.py
[20:29] <cachio> josharenson, you should just move the non redundant code
[20:32] <t1mp> hello. I'm having some unexpected failures when I run autopilot tests on a nexus4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11883293/
[20:33] <t1mp> any ideas what may be causing this?
[20:34] <balloons> t1mp, did you keep a good connection during the run?
[20:35] <t1mp> balloons: you mean between my laptop and the device? I assume so. How can I know for sure?
[20:36] <balloons> t1mp, looking at the log, my first thought was the application was crashing before anything could happen. But it's different than I usually see
[20:37] <balloons> I see the UbuntuAppLaunch.stop_application(app_id), and then the Mir error
[20:37] <cachio> josharenson, so what elopio requested is to move this class to the file /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/unity8/shell/emulators.py and start using this class as it is used as part of the system tests
[20:38] <cachio> josharenson, what do you think it is redundant?
[20:38] <balloons> t1mp, you could always try ssh'ing in and executing directly on the device if you suspect something with the connection
[20:39] <t1mp> balloons: yeah I can try that first. We have a script that runs a lot of tests, but I can first try to start individual tests from the device
[20:39] <balloons> yea, I suspected you are running the uitk tests
[20:40] <balloons> you can also ping the rest of the folks to have a look; perhaps they have more insight.. Or just blame veebers :p
[20:41]  * veebers ears perk up
[20:41] <veebers> balloons: is there something I could potentially help with
[20:42] <balloons> veebers, have you ever seen something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11883293/
[20:43] <veebers> balloons: no I haven't, looks like dbus or something either crashed or errored. Is there anything in /var/crash
[20:43] <balloons> not that I want to distract from getting a release out :p
[20:44] <balloons> veebers, thanks for having a look. Just thought it was worth asking if it was a known thing. I suspect crashing or connection issues also
[20:44] <josharenson> cachio: well, emulators is deprecated in favor of helpers, which already handles unlock, and the greeter helper already handles wait_for_greeter, and the current emulator imports main_window
[20:50] <cachio> josharenson, ok, in that case just adding get_number_of_sessions should be enough
[20:50] <josharenson> cachio: ok, I'll add that and write a simple test to make sure it works, thanks
[20:50] <josharenson> cachio: can I add you as a reviewer for that when I'm done?
[20:50] <cachio> josharenson, you are welcome
[20:50] <cachio> josharenson, sure, thanks
[21:12] <t1mp> veebers: yes, this is in /var/crash: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11884759/
[21:13] <t1mp> quite big files
[21:14] <veebers> t1mp: t1mp are those generated during your test run? If so it might indicate that something is crashing during it
[21:16] <t1mp> I didn't check the directory before, but I was running the tests around the time those files were created
[21:17] <t1mp> hmm
[21:17] <t1mp> I wonder if ofono might crash when I don't have a sim card in that device
[21:17] <veebers> t1mp: which release are you running?
[21:17] <t1mp> for the tests ofono should mock the gsm connection right?
[21:18] <t1mp> mako r190