[01:05] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: I have some exciting news :D I seems to have find the issue with rild (telephone) after lots of digging in logs.
[01:06] <ahoneybun> OMG
[01:06] <mariogrip>  error: /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device]
[01:06] <ahoneybun> that is big
[01:07] <mariogrip> yes!
[01:07] <ahoneybun> I guess that is the wrong device?
[01:07] <mariogrip> qmuxd should use smdcntl0, so that is correct.
[01:08] <ahoneybun> so just BT and camera then video decode
[01:08] <ahoneybun> PLUS this is BIG news for sailfish as well
[01:08] <ahoneybun> since they were stuck on that as well
[01:08] <mariogrip> yeah
[01:08] <ahoneybun> yay
[01:09] <ahoneybun> any builds tonight mariogrip?
[01:09] <mariogrip> I need to find out how to fix the "No such device" first, i just found i 5 mins ago.
[01:10] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[01:10] <ahoneybun> still lots of progress
[01:11] <mariogrip> I don't expect it to be long until i release a new ota with rild working. but other issues might pop up
[01:11] <ahoneybun> of course
[01:12] <ahoneybun> I still just have Touch on my Nexus 4 and use the OnePlus One as my daily driver
[01:12] <mariogrip> and i'm also working on this:I don't expect it to be long until i release a new ota with rild working.
[01:12] <ahoneybun> ?
[01:13] <mariogrip> oh, copy paste error
[01:13] <mariogrip> https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/
[01:13] <mariogrip> sorry
[01:14] <cwayne_> tedg, hiya, should url-dispatcher be able handle file://blah.html URIs?
[01:14] <mariogrip> *ignore my spelling errors* it's just a test site yet
[01:14] <tedg> cwayne_, Nope, not really. Content is a content hub problem.
[01:14] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: a request site?
[01:15] <tedg> cwayne_, I believe that kenvandine was adding a content URL for scopes that want to share content though.
[01:15] <cwayne_> tedg, it's not about sharing, i want it to launch browser to view the local html file..
[01:15] <tedg> cwayne_, Might only be for text right now (I don't remember)
[01:15] <tedg> cwayne_, The browser can't read your HTML file, as it's not in the browser's confinement.
[01:16] <ahoneybun> Vote Devices, Progress Devices, Active Devices maybe mariogrip?
[01:16] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Yes, where users can vote on what they want to get ported first + donate devices
[01:16] <ahoneybun> donate devices or money?
[01:16] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Yeah, that sound good
[01:17] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: both, (money will be used to buy the device)
[01:17] <ahoneybun> once you have the device the money will then pay for your time right?
[01:18] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: after devices and my 4 servers :)
[01:18] <ahoneybun> yea damn
[01:18] <ahoneybun> those cost money
[01:19] <ahoneybun> Voting, Inprogress, Active
[01:19] <mariogrip> Yeah, web, ci, ota and personal build servers :D
[01:20] <mariogrip> i also manage to break my bq today :( https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HFzo5j8L/IMG_20150715_031514.jpg
[01:20] <ahoneybun> damn
[01:20] <ahoneybun> I guess that was your daily driver?
[01:21] <mariogrip> yes. i loved it
[01:21] <ahoneybun> out of a phone now then?
[01:21] <mariogrip> but now the screen does not work at all
[01:21] <mariogrip> well, i have an old mako i can use
[01:21] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[01:22] <mariogrip> or, my samsung s3, but i does not have ubuntu :P
[01:22] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:24] <mariogrip> I edited the site
[01:25] <ahoneybun> Voting, Inprogress, Active mariogrip
[01:25] <ahoneybun> ?
[01:25] <cwayne_> tedg, isn't browser unconfined?
[01:26] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Inprogress devices or just Inprogress?
[01:27] <tedg> cwayne_, I don't believe so.
[01:27] <tedg> It sure shouldn't be :-)
[01:27] <tedg> I think we even confine Firefox on the desktop.
[01:27] <cwayne_> well, it's a .deb, so i think it is unconfined...
[01:28] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: Voting, Ongoing, Active maybe mariogrip
[01:28] <tedg> It can still be confined as a deb
[01:28] <ahoneybun> well
[01:28] <ahoneybun> Active would be similar to Ongoing
[01:28] <mariogrip> yeah, Inprogress sounds better i guess
[01:29] <ahoneybun> I'm looking for beer terms to use mariogrip :)
[01:30] <mariogrip> :)
[01:31] <mariogrip> it's 03:30 AM here :P oh, well, it's summer.
[01:31] <ahoneybun> Mash Tun = Inprogress
[01:32] <ahoneybun> Keg = Done
[01:32] <ahoneybun> :)
[01:32] <mariogrip> :D
[01:32] <ahoneybun> Voting, Fermenting, Packaged
[01:32] <ahoneybun> lol
[01:32] <ahoneybun> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing
[01:33] <mariogrip> hehehe, i can make a language that named Brewing
[01:33] <ahoneybun> XD
[01:33] <mariogrip> :P
[01:34] <nhaines> I'm digging the core apps PPA today!
[01:34] <nhaines> The only thing missing is Telegram.
[01:34] <nhaines> Dekko's a fun thing to have on the desktop, though.
[01:34] <ahoneybun> something is up with the Music app though
[01:35] <nhaines> Aww, I didn't get around to trying that one yet.
[01:35] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/06/29/special/microbrew_large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/06/29/special/story06.html&h=419&w=788&tbnid=uK9dIoM6_AybuM:&docid=1JZoUwujnD4qWM&ei=zrilVcfRGo_boAT86LKgDA&tbm=isch&client=ubuntu&ved=0CCsQMygOMA5qFQoTCMfwr7n_28YCFY8tiAodfLQMxA
[01:35] <ahoneybun> opps
[01:35] <ahoneybun> http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/06/29/special/microbrew_large.jpg
[01:36] <ahoneybun> Milling, Fermenting, Packaged
[01:36] <ahoneybun> ;D
[01:36] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: my status on the forums: waiting for the awesome @mariogrip to get Ubuntu Touch working on our awesome OPO.
[01:36] <ahoneybun> lol
[01:38] <mariogrip> https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/brewing
[01:38] <mariogrip> awesome ahoneybun
[01:39] <ahoneybun> lol
[01:39] <ahoneybun> its cool
[01:39] <ahoneybun> super
[01:39] <mariogrip> :D
[01:40] <ahoneybun> looks cool
[01:41] <mariogrip> what i need to add now is the vote function, donate function and a page for each device.
[01:41] <ahoneybun> have a pretty paypal button :)
[01:41] <mariogrip> and bitcoin :D
[01:43] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:43]  * ahoneybun can't find his wallet
[01:44] <ahoneybun> got it
[01:45] <mariogrip> :P
[01:46] <ahoneybun> lol
[01:47] <ahoneybun> go to sleep mariogrip
[01:47] <ahoneybun> lol
[01:48] <mariogrip> hehehe, I'm running linux, i don't need sleep :=)
[01:48] <ahoneybun> XD
[01:48] <mariogrip> i'm on my way, so cya :)
[01:49] <ahoneybun> night
[06:00] <Isotop7> my arale often has problems with launching the keyboard when pointing into a text entry area. this problem occurs without pattern after different time of usage. Only a reboot helps arale to get it right. Any ideas or is a bug filed?
[06:22] <sturmflut2> Isotop7: IIRC there are several OSK-related bugs open
[07:04] <sturmflut2> Good Morning!
[07:05] <anpok> hi
[07:13] <dholbach> good morning
[07:16] <nhaines> Good morning, dholbach.  Oh, and sturmflut2!  :)
[07:16] <dholbach> hey nhaines
[07:17] <nhaines> I'm trying to figure out how to run Unity 8 without breaking everything.  :)
[07:29] <TonyBoston> is there any reference for getting in touch with making apps for ubuntu touch?
[07:30] <seb128> TonyBoston, hey, what do you mean "getting in touch with making apps"?
[07:30] <TonyBoston> seb128 I mean I'd like to learn how to program apps/scopes for ubuntu touch
[07:31] <seb128> TonyBoston, you probably want to start with https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[07:49] <TonyBoston> thanks seb128
[07:49] <seb128> TonyBoston, yw!
[08:24] <Matthias_> hey guys i wanna know how the root system works in ubuntu touch
[08:33] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gummi Worm Day! 😃
[08:35] <Isotop7> sturmflut2: okay...so i just keep calm...
[08:35] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: Now that's a day I can really relate too!
[08:36] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, a lot of my favourite days seem to involve food.
[08:38] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, in our team we have a weekly progress call, and everybody has to start their slot with "good news", followed by what they've worked on for the last week, any challenges and what's next. The good news there involves food a lot of the time, too.
[08:39] <nhaines> Like guacamole.
[08:40] <sturmflut2> I have Telegram Web, Twitter, G+ and a TitanPad open and Firefox is at 1.2 GB of RAM (PSS). Incredible.
[08:41] <sturmflut2> Like this it wouldn't even run on krillin/vegetahd, not enough memory
[08:41] <JamesTait> I usually have that problem with Chromium. FF tends to cane the CPU instead.
[08:42] <sturmflut2> Yeah, and FireFox tends to spend the CPU time in routines that can't be explained, like e.g. hanging around in the VP9 decoder when you have never watched a video during the entire session
[08:44] <nhaines> sturmflut2: better safe than sorry.
[08:45] <sturmflut2> nhaines: But what does it decode? Hidden cat videos?
[08:45] <JamesTait> Busted!
[08:45] <sturmflut2> If it's cat videos, I at least want to see them
[08:45] <JamesTait> Yeah, not sharing just isn't right.
[08:48] <sturmflut2> If possible, I would like to change that hidden background video to the one where the Chinchilla teaches the Cat a lesson
[08:52] <svij> sturmflut2: cat videos? You mean panda videos!
[08:55] <sturmflut2> svij: Well, we all know that the ultimate overlord of earth's fauna is the Chinchilla.
[08:56] <sturmflut2> I would have built "Chinchilla Love", but a Chinchilla knows no love. Only mercilessness.
[08:56] <jgdx> http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3PdtdwkJ8uQ/hqdefault.jpg
[08:57] <jgdx> hm, maybe I've watched that movie too many times
[09:00] <sturmflut2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQLBwNTGRpc
[09:03] <JamesTait> I miss our chinnies. :(
[09:10] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: Mine are getting really old :(
[09:12] <zubozrout> Hello, can anyone please confirm Music app not playing anything on today's release of devel-proposed? Also, Neverball stopped working for me whil Neverputt still works (Nexus 7) Thank you
[09:30] <seb128> dbarth, mardy, hey, what would be the right component for bug #1474356?
[09:31]  * mardy reads
[09:31] <robjh> Hey. Is xmir working on the mx4 out of the box?
[09:32] <mardy> seb128: I'd say webapps-core
[09:33] <seb128> mardy, thanks, do we have a wiki page or standard "how to get more info" for that component?
[09:36] <seb128> dbarth, mardy, seems indeed to not be working :-/
[09:37] <mardy> seb128: TBH I don't know much about this sharing implementation in the FB webapp
[09:39] <seb128> mardy, do you know who does? dbarth?
[09:53] <mardy> seb128: alex-abreu, and maybe dbarth too
[11:14]  * tathhu will get E5 today ^___^ Finally!! :D:D
[11:43] <zubozrout> Hello, can anyone please confirm Music app not playing anything on today's release of devel-proposed? Also, Neverball stopped working for me whil Neverputt still works (Nexus 7) Thank you
[11:47] <jgdx> !ask | zubozrout
[12:20] <mariogrip>  /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device] (qmuxd) ogra_ help me plz? :)
[12:54] <tathhu> https://twitter.com/tathhu/status/621301221316521984
[12:54] <tathhu> \o/
[12:54] <ogra_> congrats !!
[12:58] <tathhu> aand now over 9000 ota updates ? :o
[12:59] <Matthias_> oh thats a lot :/  im also waiting for upuntuphne :) mx4
[12:59] <Matthias_> *ubuntuphone
[12:59] <tathhu> Ok no idea how many
[12:59] <tathhu> Installing ota 3 now
[12:59] <Matthias_> k
[13:00] <Matthias_> gl
[13:00] <tathhu> :P ty
[13:03] <jei3> for user questions, is this channel good or should I use askubuntu.com?
[13:04] <ogra_> jei3, this channel is fine ... if you cant get an answer, resort to the mailing-list or askubuntu
[13:06] <jei3> ok. is there an official email application or do I need to download dekko?
[13:06] <ogra_> i supposed some day dekko might become the official app ... currently the "official" one is the gemail webapp i think
[13:07] <ogra_> *gmail
[13:08] <jei3> I suppose there is no way yet to use dekko with gnupg or s/mime?
[13:08] <tathhu> Ah, ota 3 is latest
[13:09] <ogra_> jei3, not yet ... i think DanChapman would appreciate patches though (the code is public and opensource)
[13:11] <DanChapman> patches always welcome :-)
[13:12] <jei3> that's good to hear
[13:12] <Matthias_> DanChapman: true
[13:12] <tathhu> quick question before i even try, can i import contacts from .vcf?
[13:12] <jei3> is there any way to input japanese?
[13:13] <ogra_> tathhu, there is a way to do it via commandline, no UI yet afaik
[13:14] <jei3> do I need to run ubuntu to develop for ubuntu touch or would any gnu/linux distribution do?
[13:14] <tathhu> ogra_: shieet
[13:14]  * tathhu is lazy
[13:16] <tathhu> "Install Dekko email client on Ubuntu Phone, email the *.vcf file to your account, and open this file in Dekko. Import will start automatically."
[13:16] <tathhu> w00t
[13:16] <tathhu> :D
[13:20] <sturmflut2> john-mcaleely: Regarding that "preserve files on /userdata across device resets" discussion, I completely agree with you. Critical system files should never be stored on an user-writeable partition.
[13:20] <ogra_> sturmflut2, well, system writeable ...
[13:20] <ogra_> (they are different subdirs in the same partition)
[13:21] <ogra_> we only have a single writable partition on the device
[13:22] <john-mcaleely> I trust 'the system' less than ogra :-)
[13:22] <ogra_> lol
[13:23] <ogra_> sturmflut2, and while some of these files are not actually critical, it makes sense to keep them ... i.e. the dbus machine-id so the device is still recognized under the same device id
[13:23] <rvr> mvo_: ping
[13:23] <ogra_> and the whoopsie system-id too ... they are bnoth tied to the actual HW
[13:23] <sturmflut2> john-mcaleely: ogra IS 'the system". It's all Snappy Skynet in the end, and he lives inside of it.
[13:24] <john-mcaleely> yeah. it's probably worth considering if those id's should be derived (perhaps one-way) from IMEI
[13:24] <john-mcaleely> I stand by my comment sturmflut2 ;-)
[13:24] <mvo_> rvr: pong
[13:24] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, only if the reading parets can handle that format
[13:24] <rvr> mvo_: I'm testing silo 45
[13:24] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, I'd assume 'magic maths' would make the format the same as what's there now
[13:25] <ogra_> ah, yeah, then yes, indeed
[13:25] <rvr> mvo_: There, a dependency for framework "ubuntu-core-15.04" is removed. Is that harmless?
[13:26] <mvo_> rvr: I can check in some minutes, in a call right now
[13:37] <cwayne_> can webbrowser-app not open local html files at all?
[13:37] <ogra_> used to work with file:/// for me in the past
[13:42] <cwayne_> ogra_, with url-dispatcher by any chance?
[13:42] <ogra_> cwayne_, no, by typing it into the url bar
[13:43] <ogra_> i just learned something though
[13:43] <ogra_> echo .quit | sqlite3 -batch -csv -cmd "select urls.protocol, urls.domainsuffix, configfiles.name from urls, configfiles where urls.sourcefile = configfiles.rowid;" ~/.cache/url-dispatcher/urls-1.db
[13:43] <ogra_> ...
[13:43] <ogra_> perhaps if you register a "file" handler with it :)
[13:44] <seb128> boiko, hey, seems like the dialer-app template doesn't got updated when https://code.launchpad.net/~tiagosh/dialer-app/dialog-flight-mode/+merge/258274 landed, can you commit an update?
[13:48] <boiko> seb128: sure, just a sec
[13:48] <seb128> boiko, thanks
[13:48] <boiko> seb128: I forgot to do that, sorry
[13:48] <seb128> no worry
[13:49] <seb128> having to update those template manually is really suboptimal :-/
[13:52] <Matthias_> i love QT so now i LOVE ubuntu as well !!! does anyone know if arcrack-ng supports the wifi chip of meizu mx4 ?????
[13:52] <Matthias_> that would be so coool
[13:58] <boiko> seb128: yeah, I have brought the discussion before: updating in the MR itself is also bad, as we cannot land multiple MRs at once (there is always a conflict), there should be a way for it to get auto-updated
[13:59] <jei3> is it possible to synchronize contacts with carddav?
[13:59] <seb128> boiko, yeah, I know, in system-settings we changed to use the template from the ubuntu package which is updated at package build time, that works fine, unsure why we don't the same for other sources
[13:59] <seb128> we discussed it in the past with dpm, I don't recall the details now though
[14:00] <boiko> seb128: oh, didn't know that was possible, can you please point me to how it was done?
[14:04] <seb128> boiko, basically we did https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/build-translations-template/+merge/240696 and have "X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes" in debian/control and I'm unsure if some launchpad project config change was needed
[14:04] <seb128> dpm might remember
[14:06] <boiko> dpm: do you remember that?
[14:19] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, infinity just asked me in another channel ... we dont have any phones with pre-3.4 kernelas anymore, right ?
[14:19] <ogra_> *kernels
[14:19] <john-mcaleely> I can only speak for the production ones. none of those have such a beast
[14:19] <ogra_> right
[14:19] <ogra_> infinity, ^^^
[14:19] <ogra_> should be fine
[14:20] <infinity> john-mcaleely: Kay.  And I assume we don't care deeply about $random_community_member trying to port to some ancient device with an ancient kernel?
[14:20] <ogra_> not pre-3.4 for sure
[14:20] <infinity> john-mcaleely: I'm looking to bump glibc MIN_KVER to 3.2.0, which would mean it would flat out refuse to run on older for >= wily.
[14:21] <ogra_> wily wont go onto phones ... so the earliest you actually would have to care would be the 16.04 cycle ...
[14:21] <ogra_> in which we hopefully wouldnt have any 3.2 or older kernels at all anymore :)
[14:21] <infinity> ogra_: Well, sure, but this change for wily implies it would also be for 16.04. :)
[14:21] <ogra_> indeed
[14:22] <ogra_> just saying ... you got 6 months anyway :)
[14:22] <ogra_> unril it bites anyone
[14:22] <ogra_> *until
[14:22] <infinity> ogra_: 3.2 is my cutoff in non-phone distro-land because it's what ships with precise and wheezy.
[14:23] <ogra_> yeah
[14:23] <infinity> Some people who insist on running Debian and Ubuntu chroots on ancient RHEL versions while whine, but they can run a real OS, I don't care.
[14:23] <ogra_> we require at least android 4.4 ... most of these trees should use a 3.4 kernel
[14:23] <infinity> s/while/will/
[14:24] <infinity> ogra_: So, wait, there's no plan to base a touch release on wily, just a massive 12-month jump from vivid to xenophobic?
[14:25] <ogra_> yeah
[14:25] <infinity> Mmkay.
[14:25] <ogra_> vivid+overlay PPA til then
[14:25] <infinity> I mean, I'd be happy if they were only based on LTSes, so no complaint here.
[14:25] <ogra_> and the big jump will also be a snappy one
[14:25] <infinity> But vivid+overlay might either get a bit stale of have a huge overlay that looks a lot like wily. :P
[14:26] <infinity> s/of have/or have/
[14:26] <ogra_> yeah, kind of :)
[14:26] <ogra_> and wily is already falling apart :)
[14:29] <john-mcaleely> requiring 3.4+ seems fair enough to me
[14:31] <ogra_> yeah
[14:33] <t1mp> hello
[14:34] <t1mp> I have a nexus4 with ubuntu that shows up in the launcher when I connect it to my laptop, but nothing actually gets mounted, and 'adb shell' tells me 'error: device not found'
[14:34] <t1mp> any ideas what may be wrong?
[14:34] <t1mp> developer mode is enabled, and I tried rebooting the device as well
[14:34] <ogra_> wrong adb package on your host ?
[14:35] <t1mp> 1.0.31 is wrong?
[14:35] <ogra_> (ours ships a udev rull to allow you access as non root to the adb device)
[14:35] <ogra_> (you can find it in the phablet-tools PPA)
[14:35] <ogra_> *rule
[14:35] <ogra_> alternatively: adb kill-server; sudo adb devices
[14:36] <ogra_> that restarts adb on the PC with root rights
[14:36] <ogra_> and indeed, make sure the screen is unlocked, else it wont let you in
[14:36] <ogra_> (same is true for mtp)
[14:39] <t1mp> ogra_: thanks. Turns out my adb was in a weird state. Couldn't even kill it. Rebooting host fixed it :s
[14:39] <t1mp> that laptop some times has network problems after standby. Very annoying.
[14:40] <ogra_> ouch
[14:51] <dpm> seb128, boiko, that and just a heads up to me or someone from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+members#active to approve the template the first time, once the package containing the changes has been uploaded
[14:52] <seb128> dpm, thanks, do you think it's a good idea to use that scheme?
[14:59] <GAM002> is ubuntu available for android one?
[15:00] <GAM002> ?
[15:00] <GAM002> is there any version of ubuntu for android one phones?
[15:02] <ogra_> GAM002, i doubt that ...
[15:02] <ogra_> !devices
[15:02] <ogra_> GAM002, see that wiki page ^^^^
[15:02] <GAM002> ok thanks
[15:02] <GAM002> its not a idevice
[15:02] <ogra_> there is a porting guide
[15:02] <GAM002> its android
[15:03] <ogra_> (but thats rather an advanced thing, you need to know both systems well for this)
[15:04] <GAM002> well i think its the phone which is available in large quantity and all of them same spec ( probably same hardware tOo)
[15:04] <cwayne_> tedg, hey, can the domain-suffix bit of a url-dispatcher definition be used with wildcards?
[15:04] <GAM002> i checked that site it didnt mention android one
[15:04] <tedg> cwayne_, No, it is only a suffix.
[15:04] <cwayne_> for example, could i have protocol file, domain-suffix *.html as a url-dispatcher definition for webbrowser-app
[15:04] <cwayne_> ah
[15:05] <tedg> cwayne_, And more to point, it's only the domain, so it doesn't look at the path.
[15:05] <cwayne_> ah, i see
[15:05] <tedg> For content, it's a kenvandine problem :-)
[15:06] <cwayne_> well for context, in checkbox-touch, we run all these tests and at the end, generate an html report, and I want a button to launch that report in browser
[15:07] <cwayne_> is that a content-hub thing?
[15:08] <kenvandine> is checkbox-touch confined?
[15:09] <cwayne_> nope
[15:09] <kenvandine> and does webbrowser-app handle file:/// urls?
[15:09] <kenvandine> not handle... support
[15:09] <cwayne_> nope
[15:10] <cwayne_> well, if you put it into the url bar it works
[15:10] <cwayne_> but you can't launch it from a url
[15:10] <kenvandine> with url-dispatcher :)
[15:10] <cwayne_> i played around with adding a file protocol to webbrowser-app's url-dispatcher thingy, and it worked, but then it would try to launch *any* file:// url, which could be wrong
[15:10] <kenvandine> maybe you could have a little wrapper in checkbox-touch
[15:11] <kenvandine> that opens the browser with UAL with the url
[15:11] <tedg> Or just used the QML plugin for Oxide to display it.
[15:11] <kenvandine> ah
[15:11] <tedg> No reason it needs to be in the browser.
[15:11] <kenvandine> even better :)
[15:11] <cwayne_> surely webbrowser-app should support launching local html files..
[15:12] <cwayne_> we could do an webview sure, but i don't see why our browser shouldn't be able to launch local html files,
[15:12] <kenvandine> cwayne_, no... because the browser isn't confined
[15:12] <kenvandine> and it could end up opening a file that could be evil
[15:14] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: what is your time?
[15:15] <rvr> mvo_: re-ping
[15:15] <mvo_> rvr: meh, different meeting(s)
[15:15] <mvo_> sorry
[15:16] <rvr> mvo_: Silo approval is waiting for your feedback :)
[15:17] <mvo_> rvr: removal of 15.04-core is harmless, yes, sorry for the delay
[15:17] <mvo_> rvr: any bugreport or other thing I should respond in addition to irc?
[15:20] <rvr> mvo_: Nope
[15:20] <rvr> mvo_: Just wanted to confirm that, thanks
[15:20] <mvo_> thanks!
[15:20] <mvo_> and sorry for the delay
[15:22] <seb128> jhodapp, hey, are you the one looking a media-player issues? I've a few videos on my phone coming from the camera-app that seem to create issue (gallery fails to thumbnail them, media-player to read them (they have a black screen and act like playing never starts, also length is 0)
[15:23] <jhodapp> seb128, no, bfiller's team is in charge of that
[15:23] <seb128> bfiller, ^ :-)
[15:23] <jhodapp> seb128, oh, that's not mediaplayer-app's fault
[15:23] <jhodapp> seb128, that'd be media-hub/qtubuntu-media
[15:23] <jhodapp> qtubuntu-camera...yes that's me
[15:25] <jhodapp> seb128, can you share the videos with me, I can try to play them locally quickly to get a quick idea of what's going on
[15:30] <tedg> jdstrand, As a curiosity, why isn't the webbrowser confined? Seems it should be, no?
[15:30] <jdstrand> tedg: there is an open bug on it
[15:31] <dednick> jhodapp: ping
[15:31] <jhodapp> dednick, pong
[15:31] <jdstrand> tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1356516
[15:32] <dednick> jhodapp: hey. just started testing the video player again. seems like the media-hub is still crashing when i have multiple videos in dash and swiping & playing between them
[15:32] <dednick> jhodapp: all camera vids
[15:32] <jhodapp> dednick, you're probably getting the crash that tsdgeos was getting the other day
[15:32] <dednick> jhodapp: and camera is working again thanks :)
[15:32] <jhodapp> dednick, good :)
[15:33] <jhodapp> dednick, can you get a bt on media-hub for me just so we can confirm it's the same as the one tsdgeos is seeing?
[15:33] <dednick> jhodapp: it's nothing usefull, although i didnt have the dbgsyms installed.
[15:33] <dednick> ?? () from /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6
[15:33] <dednick> raise () from /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6
[15:33] <dednick> abort () from /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6
[15:33] <dednick> ?? ()
[15:33] <jhodapp> dednick, yeah, please install debug symbols
[15:33] <kenvandine> jgdx, libqofono is building for wily in silo 22
[15:34] <kenvandine> we have to land in wily first, then sync to vivid overlay
[15:34] <kenvandine> citrain doesn't support dual landings for regular packages
[15:34] <dednick> jhodapp: which symbols should i get?
[15:34] <dednick> media-hub?
[15:34] <jhodapp> dednick, media-hub and libc6-dbg
[15:35] <tedg> jdstrand, Cool, ship it! :-)
[15:35] <seb128> jhodapp, seems like it's not as easy, playing them from mediaplayer on a command line works :-/
[15:36] <jhodapp> seb128, weird...seems like possibly a confinement issue then
[15:39] <seb128> jhodapp, yeah, or a random issue not happening all the time (worked now from gallery after a retry), the thumbnail are still missing though but I guess that's because those are not retried
[15:54] <dednick> jhodapp: mmm. still not usefull. one thing i do notice, is that the second video that plays doesnt render correctly. it's as if one pixel of the video is stretched over the video output area
[15:55] <dednick> seemed to go in glib now.
[15:55] <jhodapp> dednick, the crash is in glib?
[15:56] <dednick> jhodapp: i think so. getting symbols
[15:56] <dednick> although it's probably just the raise
[15:56] <dednick> and dash is still crashing too.. :/
[15:57] <dednick> probably because the media-hub did though
[15:58] <jhodapp> dednick, if you see a g_hook_free() or something then it's the same or similar to tsdgeos' crash
[15:58] <dednick> jhodapp: yeah, that was it
[15:59] <dednick> #0  0xffffffff in  ()
[15:59] <dednick> #1  0xffffffff in g_hook_free (hook_list=0xa1805b10, hook=0xf10390) at /build/glib2.0-w3DiQY/glib2.0-2.45.3/./glib/ghook.c:302
[15:59] <dednick>         __FUNCTION__ = "g_hook_free"
[15:59] <dednick> #2  0xffffffff in g_hook_next_valid (hook_list=0xa1805b10, hook=0xaa002c50, may_be_in_call=<optimized out>) at /build/glib2.0-w3DiQY/glib2.0-2.45.3/./glib/ghook.c:751
[15:59] <dednick>         ohook = 0xf10390
[15:59] <dednick> #3  0xffffffff in g_hook_list_marshal (hook_list=0xa1805b10, may_recurse=1, marshaller=0xb6e5a371, data=0xab1fe68c) at /build/glib2.0-w3DiQY/glib2.0-2.45.3/./glib/ghook.c:6
[15:59] <dednick> 76
[15:59] <dednick>         was_in_call = <optimized out>
[15:59] <dednick>         hook = 0xf10390
[15:59] <dednick>         __FUNCTION__ = "g_hook_list_marshal"
[15:59] <jhodapp> dednick, yep, we're working on that one...that's a difficult one to track down as it's a thread context issue
[16:00] <dednick> #4  0xffffffff in  () at /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0
[16:00] <dednick> jhodapp: ^ sorry, pastebin not working
[16:00] <peat-psuwit> Where is make.ext4fs program in android tree? It seems like it's not in final recovery image.
[16:01] <jhodapp> dednick, just keep going as best as you can and probably abeato will be taking a look at this soon (morphis is on holiday now)
[16:16] <peat-psuwit> Excuse me, where is make.ext4fs program in android tree? It seems like it's not in final recovery image.
[16:36] <peat-psuwit> Excuse me, where is make.ext4fs program in android tree? It seems like it's not in final recovery image.
[16:38] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: Arent's the ext4 filesystems created via Fastboot? Or something like that
[16:38] <SturmFlut> s/Arent's/Aren't/
[16:40] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Fastboot may be able to do that too, but it must can be done from recovery as well.
[16:40] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: make.ext4fs is referenced by system-image-upgrader
[16:42] <SturmFlut> Let's see
[16:47] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: Hm, the recovery image initrd only seems to contain /sbin/mkfs.ext2
[16:48] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: That's strange. There's /sbin/mke2fs, though.
[16:48] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Then, why system-image-upgrader use make.ext4fs?
[16:48] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: Ah! I'm an idiot, I looked for "mkfs" and not "make"
[16:48] <SturmFlut> There actually is an /sbin/make.ext4fs
[16:50] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Which device's recovery? I can't find one in my built from source one.
[16:52] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: I took one of the device tarballs for arale rc-proposed
[16:55] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Do you have any idea where's it's device repo?
[16:56] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: No, sorry.
[17:01] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Could you examine recovery for e.g. mako please?
[17:04] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: I'll show you how to do it :)
[17:05] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: If you look at http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu/mako/index.json , the last entry at the bottom that has the string "device" in its name is /pool/device-62e6cb43ab375213838c613fa66c73224920700ff1b2887b617a0c2b53ce00f2.tar.xz
[17:06] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: That means you can directly download it from http://system-image.ubuntu.com/pool/device-62e6cb43ab375213838c613fa66c73224920700ff1b2887b617a0c2b53ce00f2.tar.xz
[17:08] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: Unpack it, it contains a file "partitions/recovery.img" that you can extract with "abootimg -x partitions/recovery.img"
[17:08] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: Which results in three files, among them "initrd.img"
[17:09] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: and that one can finally be unpacked with "cat initrd.img | gunzip | cpio -i"
[17:10] <SturmFlut> Hm, it has a /sbin/make_ext4fs , note the underscore
[17:11] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Thanks about instruction.
[17:11] <SturmFlut> Teach a man to how to fish etc. ;)
[17:12] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: So, there isn't make.ext4fs in this one. It's only in official device?
[17:12] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: I can't say. Would have to look at more devices, e.g. krillin
[17:21] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: I can't extract initrd.img from krillin and vegetahd, saying not a gzip file.
[17:24] <peat-psuwit> Examining manta's recovery, there's no make.ext4fs.
[17:29] <SturmFlut> peat-psuwit: The MediaTek recovery images have a 512 byte header at the beginning, don't know why. You can extract them with "dd if=/initrd.img bs=512 skip=1 | gunzip | cpio -i"
[17:33] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: Ok, krillin's recovery has make.ext4fs, while manta's doesn't have one.
[17:34] <peat-psuwit> SturmFlut: krillin's doesn't have make_ext4fs.
[18:01] <SturmFlut> Uh oh, looks like I created a project that reliably segfaults ubuntu-sdk on two different machines
[18:01] <SturmFlut> When I press on "Run"
[18:26] <tathhu> Morning
[18:26] <tathhu> ... eh, good night
[18:28] <tathhu> E5 is indeed nice handset.t :D
[18:54] <mah454> Hello
[18:54] <mah454> please view this paste : http://pastebin.com/5SDudi0c
[18:55] <mah454> I want to install ubuntu touch on meizu MX4 , but can not found image from channels ....
[18:55] <ahoneybun> what language do you need mah454?
[18:56] <mah454> English
[18:56] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-device-flash query --device=meizu --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --show-image
[18:56] <ahoneybun> or
[18:57] <mah454> receive this output :
[18:57] <mah454> Device meizu not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[18:58] <mah454> for example this command work : $ ubuntu-device-flash query --device=krillin --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en --show-image
[18:58] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-device-flash query --device=arale --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --show-image
[18:58] <ahoneybun> ?
[18:58] <ahoneybun> use the codename arale
[18:58] <OerHeks> mah454 --device=mx4 <> --device=meizu
[18:59] <OerHeks> ?
[18:59] <ahoneybun> goes by codenames
[18:59] <ahoneybun> mako = Nexus 5
[18:59] <ahoneybun> krillin = BQ E4.5
[18:59] <ahoneybun> arale = Meizu MX4
[19:00] <OerHeks> ahh noted, thnx.
[19:00] <mah454> okey , view this : http://pastebin.com/6St5iCSt
[19:00] <mah454> can use ?
[19:01] <ahoneybun> yep good old stable
[19:01] <mah454> ahoneybun: old stable ???
[19:01] <kenvandine> awe_, cyphermox: is there a known problem with network-manager and mobile data in wily?
[19:01] <kenvandine> Jul 15 14:58:27 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[2018]: <info> (ril_0): device state change: prepare -> failed (reason 'modem-busy') [40 120 23]
[19:01] <ahoneybun> I'm saying that is is good stable
[19:01] <ahoneybun> it is old against rc-proposed or devel-proposed
[19:02] <kenvandine> awe_, cyphermox: that's mako
[19:02] <mah454> ahoneybun: this is last stable version ?
[19:02] <ahoneybun> but always use stable unlsess you develop
[19:02] <ahoneybun> its a new device
[19:02] <awe_> kenvandine, yes, only on mako
[19:02] <kenvandine> damn
[19:02] <ahoneybun> so it just got 2 OTA's so far
[19:02] <kenvandine> ok
[19:02] <awe_> kenvandine, see the recent thread on the mailing list
[19:03] <kenvandine> ok, thx
[19:03] <awe_> the USB renaming change broke rild
[19:03] <kenvandine> i was just silo testing and noticed it
[19:03] <kenvandine> not my daily driver anymore
[19:04] <mah454> ahoneybun: How can download only images ?
[19:04] <ahoneybun> don't want to flash it?
[19:04] <kenvandine> awe_, oh, the fix for it is in a silo?
[19:04] <mah454> yes yes , I want to download and use on another device .
[19:04] <mah454> How can do that ?
[19:05] <cyphermox> awe_: is there a fix for that in the stuff I need to review?
[19:06] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --download-only
[19:06] <ahoneybun> well
[19:06] <awe_> cyphermox, no
[19:06] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-device-flash touch --device=aralen --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --download-only
[19:07] <ahoneybun> should work mah454^
[19:07] <awe_> we merely quirked (well disabled) the USB naming change for rmnet_usb* devices
[19:07] <mah454> ahoneybun: receive this : unknown flag `download-only'
[19:07] <kenvandine> ah, lxc-android-config
[19:07] <ahoneybun> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --download-only mah454
[19:08] <ahoneybun> maybe
[19:08] <mah454> not work :unknown flag `download-only'
[19:08] <mah454> why  ???? !!!!!
[19:10] <ahoneybun> not sure tbh
[19:13] <mah454> Okey I think this command : ubuntu-device-flash --download-only touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[19:13] <mah454> I have a another question :
[19:14] <davmor2> mah454: ubuntu-device-flash --download-only touch --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[19:14] <davmor2> the download only bit is a command option so needs to be first
[19:15] <mah454> at this time : my device (Meizu MX4) run with android . I use this command for create backup : "adb backup -apk -shared -all" , so How can create backup image from installed android on device ?
[19:16] <mah454> I mean create system backup image ...
[19:16] <davmor2> mah454: there is no guarantee that you can unlock the bootloader on an android MX4
[19:17] <davmor2> mah454: that would prevent you putting ubuntu on it anyway
[19:17] <mah454> and ?
[19:19] <davmor2> mah454: why are you downloading an image you might not be able to flash in the first place?  As for android backup look up android back up in the play store there are plenty of options
[19:19] <mah454> wait ...
[19:26] <dobey> davmor2: also the device has to be partitioned differently for ubuntu, no?
[19:27] <davmor2> dobey: I wasn't even getting that low down the tech stack lets see if it is flashable before we tinker any further :)
[19:43] <Danock> Are there any ssh or enc clients available for ubuntu phone?
[19:43] <Danock> vnc
[19:45] <Danock> plus does anyone know when potshots on Ubuntu phone. Will be implemented
[19:50] <davmor2> Danock: there is SSH no vnc as they are all X based and Unity8 uses mir, no idea what potshots is so at a guess when the developer ports it
[19:55] <Jordy_> Just tried to install the unbuntu SDK on Kubuntu 15. Created Kits, created Emulators but the Emulators don't do anything. Just a black screen. Anone an idea what to try?
[19:55] <Jordy_> Just tried to install the unbuntu SDK on Kubuntu 15. Created Kits, created Emulators but the Emulators don't do anything. Just a black screen. Anyone an idea what to try?
[20:25] <dobey> renato___: eh? how are you receiving updates for scopes that aren't on the phone?
[20:31] <davmor2> Jordy_: emulator is currently broken, people are looking into it should be fixed sometime soon hopefully
[20:32] <kenvandine> davmor2, have a bug number handy for that?
[20:32] <davmor2> kenvandine: there are several one second
[20:32] <davmor2> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1458694 I think this is the favourite iirc
[20:33] <kenvandine> davmor2, thx
[20:35] <tathhu> DanChapman: dekko doesn't load any messags when using fastmail :/
[20:37] <dobey> tathhu: there is a #dekko too where others might be able to help. ;)
[20:37] <davmor2> tathhu: report a bug, make sure you include the dekko log from .cache/upstart
[20:38] <tathhu> dobey: oh, thanks. :D didn't knew about that
[20:38] <tathhu> davmor2: will do when I get to proper pc :o
[20:45] <renato___> dobey, I am not sure if they are not in the phone. Because they appear on my update list
[20:46] <renato___> I have the euronews on my list right now
[20:46] <renato___> dobey, I believe scopes are packages like any other app
[20:48] <dobey> renato___: not all scopes are on the phone. euronews wasn't one in the OP's list
[20:49] <dobey> renato___: things packaged in clicks can generally be removed. i don't know of anything that has the removable flag set to false at the moment. you do have to find scopes in the store and uninstall them from there though. there's no way to uninstall a scope from within the manage scopes view
[20:53] <K1773R> # click unregister
[20:53] <tathhu>  Omg this file manager
[20:54] <davmor2> tathhu: what's wrong with it?
[20:55] <renato___> dobey, yes I was able to remove euronews using your trick. But there is a few others that are not useful in my location that and I can not remove
[20:55] <dobey> renato___: amazon, ebay, 7d?
[20:56] <dobey> renato___: if you can't remove them, they are either debs (only core system aggregators and the click scope are), or they are remote scopes on the server and do not exist on the device at all
[20:57] <renato___> dobey, yes, i imagine that.
[21:44] <jei3> is there any way to input japanese? I can't write with my friends :p
[22:06] <tathhu> davmor2: nothing, everything is new after sailfish :P
[22:31] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: cest (+2)
[22:31] <ahoneybun> not much use to me mariogrip lol
[22:31] <ahoneybun> its 6:30pm here
[22:32] <mariogrip> 12:30 am
[22:32] <ahoneybun> so 6 hours ahead of me
[22:32] <mariogrip> Yeah
[22:33] <ahoneybun> hows the brewing mariogrip?
[22:34] <mariogrip> http://localhost:3000/#/bacon i got some nice pages (still under development)
[22:34] <mariogrip> wait, localhost is not working for u lol
[22:34] <mariogrip> :P
[22:34] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[22:34] <K1773R> RoR?
[22:35] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/brewing
[22:35] <ahoneybun>  :)
[22:35] <mariogrip> https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/#/bacon here
[22:35] <mariogrip> haven't applied brewing lang yet :P
[22:35] <ahoneybun> still cool
[22:36] <mariogrip> this page give you an idea on what i want this pages to be
[22:36] <ahoneybun> "The device is not yet bought, so no deveopment cannot be done." = "The device is not yet bought, so no deveopment can be done."
[22:37] <mariogrip> Yeah, just rushed down some text, i will edit them now
[22:37] <ahoneybun> oh of course
[22:39] <mariogrip> im working on the back-end, the service that will handle votes, ranking and payment
[22:41] <ahoneybun> col
[22:41] <ahoneybun> *cool
[22:42] <mariogrip> did you see the device name i set for OnePlus two? https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/#/
[22:48] <ahoneybun> nop
[22:48] <ahoneybun> egg lol
[22:54] <mariogrip> and, the oneplus one name is?
[22:54] <ahoneybun> bacon
[22:54] <mariogrip> xD
[22:55] <ahoneybun> lettuce
[22:55] <ahoneybun> BLT
[22:55] <mariogrip> :P
[22:55] <ahoneybun> lol
[23:14] <cwayne_> mariogrip, how's the rild stuff comin?  i just broke my mx4, so I need a new ubuntu phone :D
[23:16] <mariogrip> cwayne_: going nicely, i have fount the issue (might pop up others). the issue is with the mux (qmuxd).
[23:16] <mariogrip> Unable to open port id /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device]
[23:21] <cwayne_> ah, progress is cool :D
[23:22] <mariogrip> :D
[23:26] <k1l> Emexican: ubuntu touch is using MIR.
[23:27] <Emexican> Thanks k1l. Do you know if MIR on the desktop supports displaylink devices?
[23:28] <k1l> on the desktop?
[23:28] <Emexican> That is correct
[23:29] <k1l> i dont know how much support for that sort of stuff is there. i know there is some android hardware layer on the smartphones to use the android drivers for the hardware.
[23:30] <Emexican> I am asking because I want to try and get the displaylink USB monitor that I have to work on the Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition phone I just received. I have also been running into trouble when searching for any sort of information on the Meizu.
[23:31] <Emexican> I have been able to find some verification that Ubuntu Touch devices can output a video signal to HDMI from a MHL to HDMI dongle.
[23:32] <ahoneybun> mhall119: said he did that with the Nexus 4 if I remember right
[23:34] <Emexican> I have had luck with a keyboard and flash drive connected to the Meizu through a powered USB 3 hub/USB OTG adapter.
[23:40] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I used a slimport adapter on my Nexus 4, I don't know if displayport is supported or not
[23:40] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[23:40] <ahoneybun> thanks mhall119
[23:40] <mhall119> np
[23:41] <mhall119> Emexican: so it's basically possible, and it almost kind of works on the Nexus 4 with a slimport adapter, but I have no idea if the MX4 can do the same or what adapters it needs
[23:41] <k1l> Emexican: seems like you on the first front to test all that :)
[23:42] <Emexican> It seems so. I have had a heck of a time trying to find anything out for the MX4. I have barely found BQ support, and it is lacking comparatively.
[23:44] <Emexican> Oh that reminds me! How do I add more details to the APN? When I try to edit the APN through the GUI, all I get is a Username and Password field.
[23:44] <mhall119> Emexican: you have to manually edit a file, AFAIK
[23:44]  * mhall119 can't remember where it's located though
[23:45] <ahoneybun> mhall119: /usr/share/ofono/scripts?
[23:45] <Emexican> XD This is my first run through with UT if you can't tell. I never had a device that could run it.
[23:50] <mhall119> ahoneybun: sounds promising :)
[23:51] <mhall119> I remember tweaking something in there anyway
[23:51] <Emexican> I dont see any APN sounding names in /usr/share/ofono/scripts. The closest thing I see is test-network-registration and it does what it sounds like.
[23:54] <mhall119> Emexican: I think you need to edit /var/lib/ofono/<something>/gprs
[23:54] <ahoneybun> that
[23:54] <mhall119> but you need to stop ofono first, IIRC
[23:54] <ahoneybun> sounds right
[23:56] <ahoneybun> what the heck
[23:56] <ahoneybun> cd command not found just when I'm trying to go into that dir