[00:07] <waldo323> cmaloney, when did chc move to rochester?
[02:00] <cscheib> Puppet User Group on Monday: http://meetu.ps/2KdSck
[12:53] <jrwren> oh yeah!  testing out my cable modem reflash. I just got over 100Mbit
[12:53] <jrwren> err, am still getting I should say.
[12:59] <rick_h_> heh cool
[13:25] <cmaloney> Morning
[15:10] <greg-g> cmaloney: assume you saw http://somafm.com/metal/
[15:10] <greg-g> somafm's first metal station
[15:10] <cmaloney> greg-g: I've been listening to it for about a week or so. ;)
[15:11] <cmaloney> Pretty heavy on Voivod and Venom
[15:11] <cmaloney> But yeah, it's pretty sweet to see them branch out
[15:12] <cmaloney> Offered to help curate if they wanted some more CC music
[15:12] <greg-g> yeah, still preview mode I think
[15:34] <cmaloney> Yay bad sector on RAID partition
[15:35] <jrwren> doesn't the kernel relocate that for you?
[15:35] <cmaloney> It's surfacing errors
[15:35] <cmaloney> and I have a corrupted .vdi file as a result
[15:35] <greg-g> :(
[15:36] <cmaloney> 's OK.
[15:36] <cmaloney> Removed the drive. Now for a trip to Microcenter.
[15:36] <cmaloney> Woo woo.
[17:43] <cscheib> jrwren: think that truck stop organics is my new daily drinker, easier to find than Great Lakes
[17:43] <jrwren> cscheib: you found it!
[17:44] <cscheib> yea, meijer just got it in stock
[17:45] <jrwren> cscheib: cool! I like that stuff.
[18:49] <cscheib> jrwren: any time for lunch tomorrow?  probably gotta be close to my office, unfortunately, boss may be there... I can let you know tomorrow what my range is
[18:50] <jrwren> cscheib: ANY other week and I'd say yes, but its Art Fair. I'd have to cross town in the craziest traffic known ot Ann Arbor.
[18:50] <cscheib> oh f*** that's right
[18:50] <cscheib> I really don't want to go to the office ;_;
[19:06] <cmaloney> heh
[19:23] <cscheib> jrwren: I allegedly have to start going in again (until I resign and get a new job, hopefully soon), so maybe next week
[19:24] <jrwren> cscheib: well, i'm sorry you have to go in and find a new job and I welcome having lunch with you until you do :)
[19:25] <cscheib> looking at remote-only positions with a couple startups
[19:26] <cscheib> which reminds me, I have 2 cover letters to write.
[20:14] <mrgoodcat> zingerman's coffee is pretty good if you're in ann arbor
[20:16] <greg-g> busy. as. fuck. this week
[20:16] <greg-g> art fair man. art fair.
[20:20] <jrwren> and its only pretty good. Truck Stop is very good. :)
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> chazzano is the best
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> but its in ferndale
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> long drive for ann arbor folk
[20:24] <jrwren> i dunno. i'm pretty picky.
[20:24] <mrgoodcat> the meijer supply chain isn't capable of getting coffee roasted fresh enough to beat out chazzano
[20:24] <jrwren> I know many people love Roos Roast, and it is good, but I don't LOVE it.
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> i promise you. chazzano can't be beat
[20:25] <jrwren> oh?
[20:25] <jrwren> promises promises
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> desert oasis in rochester is the closest i've seen yet
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> zingerman's doesn't even make the chazzano scale
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> and i doubt anything available at meijer does either
[20:26] <jrwren> I've had roasted same day pour through from Milan Coffee Works.
[20:26] <jrwren> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Milan-Coffee-Works/153512968189843?fref=nf
[20:26] <mrgoodcat> same day roast isn't ideal
[20:26] <mrgoodcat> it takes up to 48 hours for coffee to properly degas after roasting
[20:27] <mrgoodcat> but after 100 or so hours it's dead
[20:27] <jrwren> *sigh*
[20:28] <jrwren> and steamed eggs are superior to over easy, right?
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> coffee is fine for like 15 days though if you don't grind it
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> just not ideal
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> "dead" is probably a strong term for 100 hour makr
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> mark*
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> never had steamed eggs
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> :P
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> you were the one that said you were picky
[20:29] <jrwren> I'm picky on taste, not process.
[20:29] <jrwren> it can be year old for all I care, as long as it tastes good
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> but the age affects taste
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> as gasses are released
[20:32] <jrwren> ok.
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> if you drink it too soon after roast the gasses haven't released enough to give it good aromatics, but after so many days they are all released into the void and you lose them
[20:32] <jrwren> loved the same day roast.
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> i believe it
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> i didn't say "bad"
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> just not ideal
[20:33] <jrwren> got it.
[20:33] <jrwren> possibly ideal for my pickiness of taste.
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> possibly
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> its all very subjective
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> the most important aspect is that it takes about 8 hours to lose all of the CO2
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> so it can taste bitter for the first 8 or so hours
[20:35] <mrgoodcat> anybody want a keybase.io invite? seems like every time i sneeze they give me 3 more
[20:36] <jrwren> co2 has odor and taste?
[20:36] <jrwren> they raised 10M in funding recently.
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: yes it does. the most obvious way to demonstrate it is to carbonate plain water and drink it
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> spoiler: it tastes like crap
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> i tried with my sodastream on the advice of the owner of chazzano
[20:39] <jrwren> ah right, pellegrino and perrier
[20:39] <mrgoodcat> i use a chemex or v60 at home depending on my mood and buy coffee from chazzano every 2 weeks
[20:40] <mrgoodcat> i use a baratza encore grinder too so i buy whole bean
[20:41] <mrgoodcat> 55g of coffee per Litre of water at 205 degrees
[20:41] <mrgoodcat> as measured by a digital scale and digital electric kettle
[20:41] <mrgoodcat> what about you?
[20:42] <mrgoodcat> i've been thinking of getting a french press
[20:42] <mrgoodcat> even a standard drip maker can yield some pretty good results with quality beans though
[20:43] <jrwren> no chemex and I don't know what v60 is
[20:43] <mrgoodcat> v60 is a pourover cone
[20:43] <jrwren> I throw coffee in a Mr. Coffee maker and I dirnk it.
[20:43] <mrgoodcat> heh
[20:43] <mrgoodcat> i use a mr coffee before work a lot
[20:43] <mrgoodcat> low hassle and quick
[20:43] <jrwren> often french press too.
[20:44] <jrwren> capresso grindiner
[20:44] <jrwren> IME grinding the beans yourself is the second most important thing next to not buying crap coffee.
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> oh yea
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> definitely
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> once you grind it you have about 10 minutes before it loses the aromatics
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> the only time i pre-grind is when i'm traveling. i have a ball jar i use for it
[20:49] <jrwren> chemex steeps in the grinds pretty long, right?
[20:49] <mrgoodcat> 3 minutes
[20:49] <jrwren> oh.
[20:49] <mrgoodcat> it's basically pourover
[20:50] <jrwren> you should definitely get a frenchpres.
[20:50] <jrwren> ts.
[20:50] <jrwren> you can do long steeps.
[20:50] <jrwren> I'll do 8-10min instead of 4. Its nice.
[20:50] <mrgoodcat> over extraction makes coffee bitter
[20:50] <mrgoodcat> you have to grind way bigger to steep that long
[20:50] <jrwren> its GOOODDD
[20:50] <mrgoodcat> like way bigger
[20:50] <jrwren> very coarse is what to do for press.
[20:50] <cscheib> mrgoodcat: I like Chazzano, but I can never get there during business hours it seems
[20:51] <mrgoodcat> cscheib: no they close early
[20:51] <mrgoodcat> 6 on weekdays, 5 on friday
[20:51] <mrgoodcat> closed sunday afaik
[20:51] <jrwren> thems some weird coffee house hours.
[20:52] <mrgoodcat> they're not in downtown so they don't get many night customers
[20:52] <mrgoodcat> most of their business is wholesale
[20:52] <mrgoodcat> and subscriptions
[20:53] <cscheib> I should do online ordering, but I have a hard time doing that for a place that's less than 20 mins away
[20:53] <cscheib> I've heard there're some places that'll sell it locally
[20:53] <cscheib> but it's hard to tell from their f'ing website
[20:54] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:54] <mrgoodcat> http://chazzanocoffee.com/locations.php
[20:54] <cscheib> since they don't separate places that SERVE it (i.e. offices) and places that SELL it
[20:54] <cscheib> ^^
[20:54] <cscheib> look at that list, it's a  bunch of dentist's offices and such
[20:54] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:54] <mrgoodcat> whole foods for ann arbor folk
[20:55] <jrwren> oh, my whole foods. I'll have to check.
[20:55] <mrgoodcat> dont know how long they hold it in stock though
[20:55] <mrgoodcat> so it may be a bit deflated
[20:55] <jrwren> 1000 years.
[20:55] <cscheib> sure, I could drop into my old employer, North American Bancard and have a chat
[20:55] <mrgoodcat> hehe
[20:55] <mrgoodcat> ALCOA Mill Products in Iowa
[20:55] <cscheib> didn't realize Whole Foods had it
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> wish my employer would spring for good coffee
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> we drink dirt
[20:56] <cscheib> but, doesn't help, as I don't have one nearby
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> s/we/they
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> i don't drink it
[20:56] <cscheib> 30 mins to the Troy one... not going to Detroit...  I'm rarely out in A2
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> cscheib: where is nearby if you don't mind me asking?
[20:56] <cscheib> Grosse Pointe
[20:57] <cscheib> I'm occasionally near Randazzo market, but it doesn't explicitly say whether they sell it or serve it.
[20:57] <mrgoodcat> time to go home