/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/07/15/#ubuntu-za.txt

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mazalMornings05:09
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Kiloshi alphad MaNI Squirm theblazehen and others06:09
MaNImorning06:11
Kiloshi Tonberry Cryterion 06:25
Kilosoh my pro is gone06:25
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps06:33
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:33
nuvolario/ mornings :D06:40
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 06:41
nuvolarihoe gaan dit met oom?06:41
nuvolarioh hi MaNI 06:41
nuvolariand mazal 06:41
Kiloshi nuvolari goed dankie en daar?06:41
KilosMaaz  tell inetpro you missing man06:47
MaazKilos: Got it, I'll tell inetpro on freenode06:47
Kiloscan anyone see when the pro parted?06:54
Kilosi was offline so dont see it06:54
KilosThatGraemeGuy  do you see it on your scrollback please06:56
Kilosim helping him via telegram06:56
Trixar_zaOh hai ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos and nuvolari06:57
Kiloshi Trixar_za 06:57
Trixar_zaAlso MaNI and mazal who also said good morning :P06:57
Kilosoh my i didnt see mazal 06:58
Kilossorry06:58
Kiloshi TinuvaMac 06:58
ThatGraemeGuymy bouncer doesn't replay joins/parts06:58
Kilosoh my ty ThatGraemeGuy 06:58
ThatGraemeGuyor rather I've not configured it to06:58
Kilosnuvolari  ping06:58
Kilosyeah it becomes a nuisance but he needs the info 06:59
Kilosirc logs dont show joinparts either06:59
ThatGraemeGuymaaz: seen inetpro06:59
MaazThatGraemeGuy: inetpro was last seen 1 day, 40 minutes and 11 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-07-13 23:19:37 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-14 19:40:14 PDT06:59
ThatGraemeGuyno scrollback required07:00
Kilosthat shows his last time he said something only07:00
Kiloshe was online yesterday07:00
ThatGraemeGuy"and has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-14 19:40:14 PDT"07:00
Kilosah cool07:00
Kilosty07:00
ThatGraemeGuyand why oh why does Maaz use PDT timezone?!07:01
ThatGraemeGuygrrrrr07:01
Kiloshaha07:01
Kilosi dont even know what that is07:01
ThatGraemeGuyyeah what a joke indeed07:01
ThatGraemeGuyand every time we suggest replacing it it's "nooooo there will be a shiny new bot any day now"07:02
ThatGraemeGuyexcept nobody has put a second's effort in07:02
Kilosand has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-15 02:40:35 UTC07:02
ThatGraemeGuythis is ubuntu-ZA07:02
ThatGraemeGuyin ZA we use UTC+207:02
Kilosthats from qa on ##kilos07:02
ThatGraemeGuyno reason for maaz to use anything else07:03
Trixar_za:|07:03
ThatGraemeGuy</rant>07:03
Trixar_zaI have the wierdest urge to use Japanese07:03
Trixar_zaI may be watching too much Anime07:03
Kiloslol07:03
Kilosill get the pro to make her use utc+2 when he gets some time07:04
ThatGraemeGuyyeah yeah07:04
Kilosthey have a line down or something07:04
ThatGraemeGuythis isn't the first time i've heard this and it won't be the last07:05
Kilosbut utc is easier to figure for me anyway07:05
ThatGraemeGuyeish07:05
KilosQA  hi07:06
QAhi there07:06
ThatGraemeGuyhow can that possibly be easier to figure than just using UCT+2, which is what 99% of us use all day every day07:06
Kiloswell we havent bothered to sort her yet07:06
Kilosand with utc its easy to add 207:07
KilosQA  seen inetpro07:07
QAKilos: inetpro was last seen 7 days, 9 hours, 27 minutes and 17 seconds ago in #ubuntu-africa on freenode [2015-07-07 21:40:41 UTC], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-07-15 02:40:35 UTC07:07
Kiloshe is so busy , when i ask him to sort her timezone ill get an ai!07:08
ThatGraemeGuyits easier to not have to add or subtract anything07:08
Kilosi totally agree07:08
ThatGraemeGuyit pisses me off no end when people aren't willing to give up being the custodian of something, yet are constantly too busy to maintain it07:09
ThatGraemeGuywtf is the point07:09
Kilosi have admin on QA but dont know how to set the timezone thing07:10
* mazal peaks07:14
Kiloshi mazal 07:14
mazalHallo everyone I haven't greeted yet07:14
Kilossies man07:14
mazalsies why ?07:14
Kilosjy los ons in die donker07:15
Kilosskaam jou07:15
mazalhuh07:15
mazalI'm not following07:15
Kilosmazal afk is nearly same as mazal offline07:15
mazalNot really07:16
mazalmazal afk = working07:16
mazalmazal offline = playing07:16
Kilosi try greet online not away peeps so i dont ping them if they busy07:16
Trixar_zaIf that playing involves porn, then it's probably better than he left us in the dark07:17
mazalI don't do porn , so nope07:18
Kiloslol\07:18
mazalBut oom I still don't know why I got a sies ? What  did wrong ?07:18
Kiloshaha sorry man07:20
Kilosi said sies because ytou didnt greet me first thing07:21
mazalI can't help it oom sleep so late :P07:21
mazalWhen I said morning nobody was here lol07:21
Kilosyou are forgiven07:21
* mazal needs to find about 120gig data somewhere07:22
mazalWhy is top-ups sooooooooo expensive07:23
mazalI don't get that07:23
Kilosoh my07:23
mazalI want an ISP that offers top-ups at the same price per gig as your monthly bundle cost per gig07:24
mazalKilos: yeah , I need to do a ton of downloads , but is a once-off thing so no use upgrading my monthly package07:24
Kilossjoe07:25
mazalIt's what happens when you sit without power for a whole day and think out stuff07:26
mazalcos of boredom07:26
Kilosai!07:26
mazalIt's always great ideas but ends up costing lots of money or data every time lol07:26
ThatGraemeGuymazal: vox fat pipe 100GB R16407:26
mazalThatGraemeGuy: That's the one of last week yes ?07:27
ThatGraemeGuyyes valid til end of the month07:27
mazalReally wish there was better once-off options in these specific cases07:28
* ThatGraemeGuy mumbles something about the wonders of uncapped07:30
Kiloslol07:30
mazalAg nee , you barely reach 50gig then you get throttled so bad you can't even use email07:30
ThatGraemeGuyriiiight07:31
mazalIs what happened to me07:31
mazalGot lik 7k download on a 4mb line. Rediculous07:31
* ThatGraemeGuy steps away07:32
Kiloslol07:32
ThatGraemeGuynot going through this loooong conversation again07:32
mazalJust pointing out the facts of what happened. Maybe my ISP just bad , but that's what happened07:32
ThatGraemeGuyyes, you pointed out those same facts last time, and everyone here told you that yes, the isp choice was bad, and etc. etc. etc.07:33
ThatGraemeGuylike i said, not getting into that loooong conversation again07:33
ThatGraemeGuyi routinely use 200-300GB without breaking a sweat07:34
Kilossjoe07:35
Kiloswooot pro returned07:37
inetprogood mornings07:37
Maazinetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro you missing man" 50 minutes and 10 seconds ago07:37
inetprohehe... he missed me? :-)07:38
* inetpro just had to kickstart the interwebs into gear07:38
mazalmorning inetpro07:38
Kiloshi inetpro wb07:38
inetproKilos: last night I just gave up connecting when we had loadshedding after a long day at work07:39
Kiloswe had 3 hours no power07:39
Kilosand when you have time we need to make the bots use utc+2 please07:39
mazalOi I need a document management system07:40
mazalOom Kilos have you figured one out yet ?07:44
Kilosa document manager?07:50
magespawngood morning07:50
Kiloshi magespawn 07:51
Kilosmazal  what you wanna do?07:51
mazalKilos:  a " Help me remember in which folder I put which document " system :P07:52
Kiloslolol07:52
mazalmorning magespawn07:52
Kilosno i forget too07:52
Kilosthats why i let my browser open to over 20 pages daily07:53
mazalI lost one of barry's files07:53
mazaland can't find the thing07:53
Kilosuse the search07:53
mazaluhm.......can't remember the filename07:54
mazalAnd also can't remember if it's on mail , pc or server lol07:54
mazalIt's defnitely on one of those systems , that I know lol07:55
Kilosai!07:55
Kiloswhats this thing http://tellico-project.org/07:56
Kilosyou should save all barry stuff in a barry folder07:58
mazalWe have a bunch of work folders and in there a bunch of sub folders07:59
mazalWe try and name the folders according to relevance , but there is also some that could be in 3 different subjects07:59
Kilosai!08:00
mazalFor example , this is a user's application for memory sticks. So did I file under finance , assets , user applications, or region info08:00
mazalCos all of those is relevant for this doc :P08:01
Kilosshould be user apps08:01
mazalbut user apps should only be user id applications08:01
Kiloswhen things are relevant in many places save them to all those places08:01
ThatGraemeGuyyou say "I'm I.T. staff, not this silly admin nonsense"08:02
mazalThatGraemeGuy: I really suck at admin08:02
ThatGraemeGuyme too which is why I do none08:02
ThatGraemeGuythere are people that are paid to do admin well, I'm not one of them 08:02
mazalKilos: I actually started to do that , if something is relevant to more than one thing I save it in all of those. BUT then comes the problem when it gets updated. Then the " Now which one did I update problem again "08:03
Kiloslol08:03
mazalThatGraemeGuy: We asked for an admin clerk , as usual the response was no08:03
mazalOur poor files is a mess08:03
ThatGraemeGuywho is it you work for?08:04
mazalnuff said right there08:04
mazalom Kilos , you should see when it happens when me and barry goes " Maar ek het jou gese jy moet onthou waar ek dit bere , jy moet help onthou "08:05
Kiloslol08:05
Kiloscorrectional services08:05
mazalthen the inevitable " Nee jy het my niks gese nie , ek kan dit nie onthou nie " lol08:05
Kilosai!08:06
mazalTwo ou toppies trying to remember stuff , get's very funny08:06
Kiloslol08:06
mazalDon't tell him I said that :P08:06
mazalAnd the less you remember the more docs and manuals you make for yourself and so the cycle get's worse08:08
Kilosi battle with only my stuff, dunno how you guys do so much08:09
mazalBut the digital stuff is ok , eventually we find it. You should check when I try and find something I wrote in last year's diary lol08:09
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magespawnmazal: you still write things?08:21
Kiloshi ronaldm 08:33
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:34
mazalmagespawn: Defnitely , I have a diary at work and at home I have notepads for stuff to remember08:35
magespawni almost always lose the notes, can remember that i wrote something somewhere08:36
magespawnbrb08:36
magespawnback08:45
ronaldmKilos: thanks for the warm welcome08:48
Kiloswe are happy when new people join us ronaldm 08:48
ronaldmKilos: I am based in Harare, saw your email on the LoCo mailing list08:48
Kilosif you need some help just state what you need help with08:48
Kilosaha ok then you can join #ubuntu-africa08:49
Kilosthats the channel for all of africa08:49
mazalWelcome ronaldm08:51
ronaldmmazal: thanks08:52
mazalheh , heard another myth now08:55
mazalmagespawn: I keep mine in one place only , then it can't get lost :)08:56
mazalAlways lying next to my pc08:56
Kiloshaha i saved school books full of notes, and that is even harder to find09:07
magespawnmazal i need to get into this idea of having one office, at the moment i tend to carry everything with me09:09
magespawnbbl got to go again09:11
Kiloshmm...09:15
Kilosneed clever peeps ideas09:15
Kilosif a tower is upgraded to lte will ones normal modem also be faster even though it cant do the lte bit09:17
Kilossurely the whole signal or bandwidth will be better wont it09:17
Kilosso everything connected to it will be faster09:19
ThatGraemeGuyno idea09:20
ThatGraemeGuynot sure if there are and GSM/LTE techs around here that would know09:20
Kiloswell i hope so because ive just asked them to upgrade this tower09:22
Kilosand will get all neighbours to do likewise09:22
mazalGood q Kilos , would be interesting to know09:44
Kiloslogically i think everything connected to it should be faster, cells, tablets pcs etc09:47
mazalUsually it's never that simple. There is always a BUT09:47
Kiloslol09:48
ThatGraemeGuyI don't think that would be the case at all09:48
ThatGraemeGuyif your device can speak HSDPA it will still speak HSDPA09:48
mazalI think only LTE enabled devices will benefit09:49
mazalThe rest not09:49
Kilosoh yes ThatGraemeGuy i agree but09:49
Kiloslets figure09:49
ThatGraemeGuyif you have a WiFi 802.11n device, there is no speed benefit for a device that only speaks 802.11g09:49
ThatGraemeGuysimilar situation09:49
Kilosto upgrade to lte they must surely increase bandwidth right?09:49
mazalI agree with Graeme09:49
ThatGraemeGuybackhaul yes09:50
ThatGraemeGuybut that isn't really relevant to your device09:50
Kilosso then , we are having slow speeds now because they say because of all the extra users09:50
mazalIt's like if I plug my 100mb network card into a 1Gig lan , it's still only gonna work at 100mb09:50
ThatGraemeGuyit depends on whether the congestion is on the GSM side or backhaul09:50
Kilosmy device is capable of 20mb/s but i get 2 mb/s09:51
ThatGraemeGuyi don't believe that backhaul would be congested09:51
ThatGraemeGuythe wireless likely is09:51
Kilosat times then others over 7mb/s09:51
Kilosso thats because of too many peeps i think09:51
Kilosso if bandwidth is increased it should be able to do better09:52
ThatGraemeGuyyour whole argument is based on them adding more backhaul09:52
Kilosi dunno what backhaul is09:52
ThatGraemeGuythat's fat fibre pipes, i don't believe that would be the issue09:53
ThatGraemeGuybackhaul is the fat fibre connection that connects base station comms kit to their backbone09:53
Kilosoh ty09:53
ThatGraemeGuyi think more likely the wireless side is congested09:53
Kiloswell i hope upgrading helps09:54
ThatGraemeGuyand like everything, no provider is ever going to say you will get the speed your device supports, they will all say "up to" 20Mbps or whatever09:54
ThatGraemeGuythere just isn't any way to guarantee speed, ESPECIALLY with wireless09:54
MaNI99% of the time it will be the 'last mile' i.e. the wireless side09:54
Kilosya but they must fix my side09:54
ThatGraemeGuythey will advertise the speed the technology is capable of, but there's no way you will see that full speed constantly09:55
Kilosthe pro gets up to 22mb/s and im stuck down at 2mb/s at times09:55
ThatGraemeGuyyou can't compare like that09:55
Kilosim happy when i get 7 meg09:55
Kilosya but he feeds off a lte tower and me not09:56
ThatGraemeGuyand upgrading a tower costs a ton of money, they aren't just going to do that without all sorts of investigation and financial reports09:56
Kilosoh well all i can do is ask for upgrade09:56
Kilosand hope09:57
Kilosits very lekker to open a web page and not have to wait09:58
ThatGraemeGuythat has less to do with bandwith and more to do with latency10:03
ThatGraemeGuyI only have 2M and pages load quickly for me10:03
ThatGraemeGuyadsl has much lower latency10:03
ThatGraemeGuyif you have 20M of  peak bandwith but bad latency, web pages will still suck10:03
Kilosai!10:07
* mazal hears the word latency and screams10:09
mazalKiller for us online gamers that10:09
mazalGood old ping rate10:09
MaNIa bit of both depending on the web pages10:10
MaNIturning on ad block is a big help :)10:10
Kiloslol i have that10:10
Kiloshate adds10:10
ThatGraemeGuyugh10:11
mazalShees we are standing still today10:11
mazalOur work network I mean10:11
MaNIbut yeah latency is a killer if its a badly written web page, with lots of back and forth, like 100s of little css files or whatever10:11
ThatGraemeGuytrying to get some windows-only piece of crap software working on a vm10:11
ThatGraemeGuyhow do people still use this crap?10:12
mazalWhat app ?10:12
Kiloswith difficulty10:12
ThatGraemeGuyleapfrog connect10:12
mazalDon't know it sorry , can't be of help10:13
ThatGraemeGuynobody can :)10:13
MaNII lost most of my sleep on monday to get a product to still work on XP :/10:13
mazalXP!!! Wow ok10:14
MaNIproduct about to ship, client decides at last minute that it must still support XP, meh10:14
Kilosouch10:14
mazalI almost said something now10:14
mazalBut can't judge that badly :P10:14
MaNIIt sounds ridiculous but when you look at some of the numbers out their some of them claim more people still use XP than OSX - and nobody acts shocked when people want OSX support :(10:15
mazalAll things bad about Win aside, using an OS that has no security support anymore is just.........10:16
MaNInot condoning it10:16
MaNIbut its still ~250 million potential customers that otherwise can't use your software :p10:16
MaNII'd love to take a stick and beat them all into using another OS of course10:17
mazalThat gives me an idea10:17
MaNIergh 4-6 weeks lead time on the circuit breakers I want, terrible, I can probably import faster than that :(10:18
mazalmaaz what's for lunch10:47
Maazmazal: How about some soup?10:47
mazalmaaz what is it with you and soup10:48
Maazmazal: Not a clue, sorry10:48
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ThatGraemeGuyweird question, anyone know anything about dual-booting windows 8 and linux?11:51
mazalNot Win 8 no , last time I did it was Win 711:53
ThatGraemeGuymy laptop came with windows 8 in UEFI mode, and I blew it away within minutes11:53
ThatGraemeGuyand now I want to go to dual-boot and I'm lost11:53
mazalformatted it ?11:54
ThatGraemeGuyI've done nothing, just researching first11:54
mazalO ok11:54
mazalask ubuntu has a nice one this somewhere11:54
ThatGraemeGuyI need to know what I'm in for up front, this is my laptop that I use all the time, can't have it down for a day or two while I'm figuring stuff out11:54
mazalUEFI is the main pain11:54
mazalLemme see if I can find that nice how-to I saw before11:55
mazalhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported11:57
mazalLots of info there ^^11:58
ThatGraemeGuythanks, but that's how to install ubuntu with 8 pre-installed11:58
ThatGraemeGuyI already did that 1.5 years ago, I need something different11:59
mazalWhat specific you need ?12:00
melodiehi12:00
melodieKilos ?12:00
mazalLo melodie12:00
melodiehi mazal 12:01
mazalWhat means "hybrid harddisk" ?12:22
mazalSemi ssd ?12:22
ThatGraemeGuyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive12:23
mazalhmm interesting thanx12:24
mazalI wonder if Ubuntu support that 2nd part :12:26
mazalthe data placement decisions are performed either entirely by the device (self-optimized mode), or through placement "hints" supplied by the operating system (host-hinted mode).12:26
mazaloi gtg12:30
mazall8tr all , have a nice afternoon12:30
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magespawngood afternoon14:57
Kiloshi magespawn 14:58
magespawntrying to find out why the network is sporadic15:00
magespawnslow then fast intermittently15:01
Kilosduring a download?15:02
magespawnno just general network usage15:03
magespawndo have 80 or so people on the network15:03
Kilossjoe15:03
Kilossome are downloading stuffs15:03
magespawnyup i think so but the ping times are all over the place an i am losing packets on two locations15:07
Kilosoh my15:08
magespawni think the one is an alignment issue and the other just crappy equipment15:10
magespawnnothing that would hurt chat, but your youtube might suffer a bit15:12
CryterionAnd loadshedding starts again, grrr16:08
MaNIindeed16:18
MaNIand my panels are sitting in my lounge unable to help me, so close but still so far, the pain :p16:18
inetprogood evening16:51
Cryterion_evening inetpro mazal17:05
Cryterion_Mani i me17:05
Cryterion_mean grrr17:05
MaNIevening17:06
Kiloshi inetpro MaNI Cryterion_ and superfly 17:29
superflyHi Kilos, Cryterion_, MaNI and inetpro 17:29
superflyKilos: the Nikola guys are super helpful. I'm using Nikola for another site, and I asked them for some help and they were exceptionally helpful. 17:31
Kilosgood superfly 17:32
Kiloswhat could you need help with though17:32
Kilos?17:34
Kilosnot often my fly needs help17:34
superflyjust some internals of Nikola17:51
Kilosaha17:52
Cryterion_in 1907 Nikola Tesla said "One day every person will have a hand held device that could send text messages to any other person", in 1999 the Blackberry arrived!17:59
Kilosi enjoy the tesla coils in red alert. they really shock the enemy to bits18:00
Cryterion_lol, I remember that game18:01
Kiloshi Vince-0 wb18:02
Vince-0Hi Kilos what's up18:05
Kilosjust another day and you?18:05
Kiloshows the business Vince-0 ?18:06
Kilosyou made your first million yet?18:07
Vince-0ag werk is werk18:09
Kilosai!18:10
Kilosglad you got everything fixed inetpro , room is empty outa you18:13
inetproKilos: what problem?18:14
Kilossigh18:14
Kilosnone so blind as those that will not see18:14
* inetpro don't know that he had problems18:16
Kilosoh ok then18:16
Kilosi must be the only observant one here18:17
Kilosobzervent18:17
Kilosai! that18:17
Kilosopletbaar18:17
stickyboy"You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding" -Plato18:17
stickyboy(speaking about Google)18:17
stickyboyhttp://ma.tt/2015/07/plato-phaedrus/18:18
inetproKilos: you mean this morning?18:18
Kilosyeaasir inetpro 18:18
Kilosyessir18:18
inetprothat was not my problem to fix sir18:18
Kiloswell thats a matter of opinion18:18
inetprosomebody else also needs to do some work around here :-)18:18
Kilosif you offline here its your problem18:19
Kiloshaha18:19
stickyboyYou guys, communities rise and fall.18:19
Kilosnot this one18:19
stickyboyJust look at the once-mighty Nairobi LUG.18:19
Kiloswe just keep rising18:19
stickyboy\o/18:20
Kilosi wont allow these peeps too fall till i stop breathing18:20
stickyboyI'll send you greetings from Georgia.18:20
stickyboyHave you seen how they write?18:20
Kiloswhen you going18:20
Kilosno18:20
Kilosgeorgia where18:21
stickyboyქართული18:21
Kiloseeeek18:21
Kilossame to you18:21
stickyboyThe caucasus, my friend.18:21
Kilosstickyboy  is that their word for yummy18:22
Kiloswhere is the caucasus18:22
stickyboyKilos: Azerbaijan, Georgia...18:23
stickyboyBut the Caspian Sea.18:23
Kilosaha18:23
stickyboys/Buy/By/18:23
mazalEvenings18:23
Kiloshi mazal 18:23
Kilosstickyboy  they dont have feta18:24
stickyboyKilos: Yeah, looks like they might not...18:26
stickyboyBut they have baklava.18:26
Kiloslol you gonna have to rough it for a while18:26
Kiloshow long 2 weeks?18:27
mazalugh this winter thing , 8:30 and I want to go sleep already18:28
Kilosyeah im also yawning here18:28
Kilossnow on the berg tonight18:28
Kilosluckily north east wind tomorrow18:29
mazalI'm too lazy to work and too cold to game lol18:29
Cryterion__Kilo's, I setup a post on the Congo's team facebook page, looks like it has to wait admin approval before it goes through, will wait and see18:29
Cryterion__Hi mazak18:29
Cryterion__mazal*18:29
mazalHi Cryterion__ 18:29
Kilosty Cryterion__ 18:29
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Cryteriondarn loadshedding, messes up my nick lol18:30
Kilosi actuallt think i had some mail contact with one of them once but forget who now18:30
Kilosloadshedding messes up everything18:31
Kiloshi Tonberry 18:32
CryterionThere's 175 people on the Congo page that like it (Can't tell how many still follow it though) but it's also a page, not a group like we've setup for Africa18:33
Kiloswe are unique world wide i think18:33
Kilosits just difficult to pull social media peeps to irc18:35
mazalWhat's the africa group name ?18:35
Kiloson fb?18:35
Kilosubuntu-africa18:35
Cryterionmazal, Ubuntu-Africa18:35
mazalLast post was April ?18:36
ThatGraemeGuyurgh i'm a bit spoiled18:36
Kiloswhat you got ThatGraemeGuy 18:36
Tonberryhi18:36
CryterionHow do I un-ignore on xchat?18:36
ThatGraemeGuyso used to a CD-sized ISO taking a couple of minutes, when I'm at home it seems inconceivable that it's going to take more than an hour18:36
ThatGraemeGuyAN HOUR, really?!18:36
ThatGraemeGuylol18:36
Kiloslol18:37
Kilosyay dvd size isos are the new norm18:37
Kilosya18:37
mazalAn hour for an install ?18:37
ThatGraemeGuyno an hour+ to download 438MB18:38
ThatGraemeGuytakes about a minute at work :-/18:38
Kiloswow18:38
stickyboyFrom USB flash disk it's quick. :D18:38
mazalOh to dl 18:38
mazalI was about to ask if that is a Windoooze install lol18:38
Kiloswhat last post was april mazal 18:39
ThatGraemeGuywell yes, from RAM its even quicker, but since the file I need is stored on neither of those, I will have to download it from the snail network :-p18:39
ThatGraemeGuya windows install is only 10 minutes nowadays18:39
mazalKilos, the last post on the fb group18:39
ThatGraemeGuybut this whole affair is windows related actually18:39
Kilosthe ubuntu-africa group?18:39
mazalyes18:39
KilosCryterion  post something18:40
mazalAnd seems like a micro financial organization actually18:40
CryterionSomething18:40
Kiloslol18:40
mazalI think I am on the wrong group that has the same name18:40
Kilosman something to show its alive and hunting buntu peeps in africa18:40
CryterionI accidentally ignored mazal, not sure it I corrected it properly yet, mazal are you here?18:41
ThatGraemeGuy1.5 hours and counting, resizing an NTFS filesystem by 150GB  :-/18:41
mazalCryterion, yes I am18:42
CryterionKilo's I did, got confirmed post, but didn't display yet18:42
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: he said yes, did you see it?18:42
Cryterionno :(18:42
ThatGraemeGuyeish18:42
mazaloi18:42
ThatGraemeGuymazal says "oi"18:42
Kilosrofl18:42
Cryterionthe /unignore command not working18:42
mazalI knew I should have bought flowers ai !!18:42
ThatGraemeGuymazal says "I knew I should have bought flowers ai !!"18:43
Kilosi love this channel 18:43
ThatGraemeGuyI found a purpose in life18:43
Cryterionlol18:43
Kiloseveryone is nuts18:43
CryterionUsage: UNIGNORE <mask> [QUIET]18:43
Kilosi feel at home here18:43
Cryterionmask would be mazal? QUIET?18:44
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: the correct answer of course is to not use xchat in the first place :)18:44
mazalIsn't mask that mazal*!* something something stuff ?18:44
Cryterionhmm, this is the only problem I'm having with xchat18:44
ThatGraemeGuycheck in ~/.xchat or ~/.config/xchat, or whatnot, not sure where xchat stores config18:44
CryterionWill look18:45
ThatGraemeGuymazal says "Isn't mask that mazal*!* something something stuff ?"18:45
mazalCan't remember the masks , been too long since I last used it18:45
ThatGraemeGuylol18:45
ThatGraemeGuymazal says "Can't remember the masks , been too long since I last used it"18:45
ThatGraemeGuy:-p18:45
Kiloshaha18:45
ThatGraemeGuyok i'm done18:45
mazalLast time was when I banned someone , and that was loooooooooooooong ago18:45
ThatGraemeGuymazal: /nick notmazal18:46
=== mazal is now known as notmazal
* Cryterion sees that18:46
ThatGraemeGuynotmazal: say something18:47
notmazalsomething18:47
Kiloshahaha18:47
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: notmazal said "something"18:47
notmazalrofl18:47
CryterionI can see notmazal, even saw the change mazal: /nick notmazal18:48
ThatGraemeGuyMaaz: everything that notmazal says, please privmsg it to Cryterion, thanks18:48
Maazno probs, ThatGraemeGuy18:48
notmazalbwahahahaha18:48
ThatGraemeGuyok then you didn't ignore him usin mazal!*@*18:48
Cryteriondouble msg's now lol18:48
Cryterionno, but the chat display did say that18:49
ThatGraemeGuyweir18:49
ThatGraemeGuy+d18:49
Cryterionwas an accidental click18:49
* Cryterion restarts xchat18:49
Kiloswbcry18:50
ThatGraemeGuyyou should uninstall xchat, not restart it :-p18:50
Kilosai!18:50
Cryteriontks18:50
Kiloswb Cryterion 18:50
Cryterionlol18:51
notmazalCan I be me again now ?18:51
ThatGraemeGuyinstall BitchX18:51
CryterionTry, can only see18:51
ThatGraemeGuyis BitchX even a thing anymore, that's a bit of a history lesson18:51
CryterionNow that sounds mean ThatGraemeGuy lol18:51
=== notmazal is now known as mazal
mazalsomething18:51
ThatGraemeGuywe all used BitchX at some point waaay back in the 90s18:52
ThatGraemeGuyunless you were using mIRC18:52
superflyexcept me18:52
ThatGraemeGuythose were your options :-D18:52
ThatGraemeGuyor irssi18:52
superflyI didn't IRC in the 90s, to be honest.18:52
mazalI was a mirc guy18:52
mazalHad awesome stats generator for mirc :)18:52
Kilossjoe i didnt even have a pc then18:52
Cryterionnotmazal is now known as mazal (That's all I've seen from mazal, grrr)18:53
Kilosyou guys are old18:53
ThatGraemeGuyI wrote a mIRC script that ran a trivia game in a channel18:53
ThatGraemeGuyand then ported it to Eggdrop18:53
mazalYeah we had one of those in our channel18:53
ThatGraemeGuyit was pretty popular back then18:53
mazalTrivia and one that you had to guess words and stuff18:53
=== mazal is now known as notmazalagain
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.donaldson.za.net/eggdrop18:54
Kiloslol18:54
ThatGraemeGuyI even have the files still :)18:54
notmazalagainMaybe we used one of your script and don't even know it18:54
Kilosnight guys. ive laughed me moeg tonight18:54
Kilosty18:54
Kilossleep tight18:54
superflynow you get @TriviaBot in Telegram18:54
ThatGraemeGuya whole lot of ZA IRC networks had a channel or two with my trivia game running back then18:55
ThatGraemeGuythere was an acronym game as well18:55
Cryterionmazal are you there?18:56
=== notmazalagain is now known as mazal
mazalyes18:56
Cryterionworking now :)18:56
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: mazal says yes18:56
CryterionThatGraemeGuy, I got it fixed :)18:56
mazalYay :)18:56
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: mazal says Yay :)18:57
ThatGraemeGuyhahaha18:57
CryterionLol18:57
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: Kilos said sleep tight, and then left18:57
CryterionKwl18:57
mazalThatGraemeGuy, we had lot's of fun with that stuff back in the day18:57
ThatGraemeGuyI wonder if that script would still work with a modern version of Eggdrop18:58
CryterionI remember my mIrc days, and yes was also back in the 90's18:58
ThatGraemeGuyis Eggdrop even maintained anymore :-/18:58
mazalThen somebody at work discovered it and closed the server :(18:58
CryterionMaaz: google Eggdrop18:58
MaazCryterion: "Eggheads.org - Main Index" http://www.eggheads.org/ :: "Eggheads.org - Downloads" http://www.eggheads.org/downloads/ :: "Eggdrop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggdrop :: "egghelp.org: what is an eggdrop?" http://www.egghelp.org/whatis.htm :: "egghelp.org" http://www.egghelp.org/ :: "egghelp.org: setting up an eggdrop"18:58
Maazhttp://www.egghelp.org/setup.htm :: "egghelp.org: eggdrop files" http://www.egghelp.org/…18:58
ThatGraemeGuyeggheads.org is the official site18:59
mazalWas in 90's for me also , didn't even know about linux back then19:00
mazalWish I did though19:00
mazalOr rather knew about it , but was ignorant19:00
ThatGraemeGuyI played with Slackware around that time but never ran it properly19:01
ThatGraemeGuyin 2004 I ran Gentoo on my desktop19:01
ThatGraemeGuywhich was quite a brave thing to do in the 56k dial-up era19:01
mazalI was one of the " Linux is only for servers and can't be used as a desktop os " people19:01
ThatGraemeGuys/brave/dumb probably19:02
ThatGraemeGuyand then there was bonded ISDN and Telkom's "R7 weekend"19:02
ThatGraemeGuyanyone remember that? :-o19:02
mazalOh I remember those19:02
CryterionI switched to Linux about 2 years ago, I have about 3 months experience with windows 8, then through it out the window19:04
ThatGraemeGuyI started a job in 2009 as the designated windows guy in a mostly-Linux shop19:05
ThatGraemeGuysuperfly remembers19:05
superfly:-D19:05
CryterionAh, that R7 all weekend telkom one, got pissed at my step-sister for picking up the phone which dc'd me, grrr19:05
mazalI started using linux in 2002 for my home file share server19:05
mazalWasn't until 2008 that I tried it as a desktop19:06
superflyThatGraemeGuy: though Shaun vN was "I'll never use Linux on my desktop!"19:06
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion: yeah with bonded ISDN the R7 weekend turned into a R14 weekend, and if you got disconnected it was infuriating19:06
ThatGraemeGuylol Shaun19:07
ThatGraemeGuyalmost thought he was done for the other day, shame19:07
Cryterionespecially if your all night download was coming off a non-resuming server ThatGraemeGuy19:08
ThatGraemeGuyhe's working for some Nigerian eCommerce site, and flew up there. his wife contacted me via fb, desperate that she hadn't heard from him for several hours after he should've landed19:08
ThatGraemeGuymany hours later he popped up on fb, turned out he just had really bad signal all the time19:09
superflyheh19:09
mazalI'm gonna crash19:10
mazalNight guys , sleep well19:10
CryterionNight mazal19:11
ThatGraemeGuyyeah, what he said ^^19:14
ThatGraemeGuynight all19:15
superflyheh19:15
stickyboyRenewing my ACM membership.19:48
=== Cryterion_ is now known as Cryterion
CryterionMaaz: what bot are you21:07
MaazCryterion: If you say so21:07
CryterionMaaz: what version are you?21:08
MaazCryterion: One learns a new thing every day21:08
superflyCryterion: ibid21:08
inetproMaaz: last set factoid21:14
Maazinetpro: It was: what version21:14
inetproMaaz: forget what version21:15
Maazinetpro: Sure21:15
inetproMaaz: forget what bot21:15
Maazinetpro: Alrighty21:15
inetprotime for some sleep 21:15
inetprogood night21:16
Cryterionlol21:19
Cryterionnight guys21:19
Cryterionoh and tks superfly21:31

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