| Unit193 | cyphermox: Actually, here you go: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/plymouth_0.9.0-0ubuntu9_i386.build | 01:31 |
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| Unit193 | (All said and done, biggest problem was entering the password twice on an encrypted install. Everything else worked.) | 02:12 |
| Logan | Unit193: what did I do | 04:53 |
| Logan | oh | 04:54 |
| Unit193 | I use that, noticed that problem but requests in vivid is too old anyway. | 04:57 |
| Logan | Unit193: don't think so? | 06:01 |
| Logan | it just requires >= 2.2.0 | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | Dangit, confusing the two. That's the dep missing, another one in vivid wasn't new enough. python-natsort it was. | 06:10 |
| Unit193 | natsort>=3.5.2; Candidate: 3.5.1-1 | 06:11 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, moot. | 06:11 |
| ochosi | good day everyone | 07:04 |
| * ochosi pokes bluesabre back | 07:06 | |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hey dude, hi, what's up? :) | 07:06 |
| ochosi | Unit193: since you've been wily for a bit, how's it going so far? | 07:10 |
| ochosi | any roadblocks or glitches you've seen that we shoudl address? | 07:10 |
| Unit193 | In case you haven't seen it, I seem to be trying to break it with crazy setups. I'd say all the ones I've hit are != Xubuntu and can be considered fringe events. | 07:11 |
| ochosi | ok, good | 07:15 |
| ochosi | well if you notice anything odd, always be sure to mention it here | 07:16 |
| ochosi | i'm still only doing the occasional test in vbox, so far everything seems good | 07:16 |
| Unit193 | Depends on what you consider odd. ;P | 07:16 |
| Unit193 | Speaking of which, new cores coming soon™ | 07:33 |
| ochosi | Unit193: new cores? | 07:49 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Only issue with wily i've noticed is that parole is near useless | 08:10 |
| ochosi | oh right, that one | 08:11 |
| ochosi | yeah, we definitely need to check out what's going on there... | 08:11 |
| ochosi | it actually seems totally useless, not "near" | 08:14 |
| ochosi | wonder what that is related to though, since no changes happened in parole | 08:14 |
| ochosi | guess clutter or gstreamer | 08:14 |
| ochosi | ok, it's clutter. | 08:15 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: easy workaround for you to test: set the property /video/videosink in parole to "xv" instead of clutter | 08:15 |
| ochosi | then it should launch immediately and smoothly | 08:16 |
| Unit193 | Ah, I don't use parole. | 08:16 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so we have a clutter issue in parole in wily (see above) | 08:18 |
| Unit193 | What happens? | 08:21 |
| Unit193 | Crash? Like https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789198? | 08:21 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 789198 in src:clutter-1.0 "src:clutter-1.0: Please update to 1.23 to fix #781121 / upstream bug 747489" [Important,Open] | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, how do i do that? | 08:27 |
| ochosi | Unit193: it just freezes up, i would have to compile with debug symbols to know what exactly is going on | 08:27 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: open xfce4-settings-editor | 08:27 |
| Noskcaj | fixed | 08:28 |
| Noskcaj | i'll install clutter-1.0 and see if that works too | 08:29 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29 | 08:30 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/0.8.0-2ubuntu1/+build/7464841/+files/parole-dbgsym_0.8.0-2ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb | 08:31 |
| ochosi | meh, bidirectional clipboard isn't working in the vbox and that link is definitely too long to type | 08:35 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: http://u193.ga/y/prldbg | 08:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: hm, i don't get any additional debug output | 08:39 |
| ochosi | just the usual gtk3 deprecation warnings | 08:40 |
| ochosi | which are harmless | 08:40 |
| Unit193 | Oooh, I thought you meant debug symbols. :P | 08:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, sorry for mis-phrasing that ;) | 08:40 |
| Unit193 | Those should be runtime. :P | 08:42 |
| ochosi | Unit193: anyway, that bugreport you linked to might well be related | 09:01 |
| ochosi | Unit193: especially since totem also freezes and then crashes at startup in wily.... | 09:16 |
| Unit193 | Try updating the package? :> | 09:21 |
| Unit193 | Except, looks like that's talking about upgrading to the version it is at now, soo. | 09:33 |
| ochosi | Unit193: you mean upgrading clutter? | 09:39 |
| Noskcaj | Upgrading clutter-1.0 doesn't seem to do anything | 10:30 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: always check whether totem starts and runs ok to be sure | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | hey all | 11:00 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: do you want me to package up an artwork update soon? | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | nice, since clutter seems to be the issue, I could swap us back to xv for the time being | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | the only issue I have with wily is overlay scrollbars | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | for some reason, adding this to my bashrc does not work | 11:04 |
| ochosi | overlay scrollbars because you don't like them? | 11:04 |
| bluesabre | export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 | 11:04 |
| Unit193 | The apport screen looks glitchy as heck with that. | 11:04 |
| ochosi | and yeah, let's switch back to xv to prevent tons of bugreports | 11:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I don't like them and they cover up content that I try to use | 11:04 |
| ochosi | we just have to remember to switch back to clutter ;) | 11:04 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: don't they fade out again quickly enough? and if not, is that tweakable? | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | they appear every time you move | 11:05 |
| Unit193 | export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk | 11:05 |
| Unit193 | export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 | 11:05 |
| ochosi | right, i guess that makes sense though | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | so if there is a button under them, good luck | 11:05 |
| ochosi | hmm | 11:05 |
| ochosi | i see | 11:05 |
| ochosi | well i guess then they should only appear when you hover them | 11:05 |
| ochosi | or the area where they're supposed to appear | 11:05 |
| ochosi | but i guess we have no influence on that | 11:05 |
| ochosi | in terms of artwork, yes please! i pushed some more improvements to greybird today and may push one or two more soonish | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | ok | 11:06 |
| ochosi | if you want me to do a point release, that'd be fine by me | 11:06 |
| ochosi | same goes for LO | 11:06 |
| ochosi | and elementary-xfce | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | I might upload friday then if you're expecting anything before then | 11:07 |
| ochosi | not too much tbh | 11:07 |
| ochosi | maybe more minor improvements | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | ok | 11:07 |
| ochosi | but personally i think it'd be good to have some updated artwork so we can check what's still missing in qiwily more reliably | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | I also wonder if LO integration will happen before LO 5.0 | 11:08 |
| ochosi | i think we should upload our LO stuff and then we'll see what happens with LO 5.0 | 11:14 |
| ochosi | last i heard it was still planned for wily, but i haven't talked to Sweet5hark in a while | 11:15 |
| ochosi | the LO icons will likely receive more updates during the wily cycle anyway, so it's ok to do another one after 5.0 lands | 11:16 |
| bluesabre | alrighty | 11:17 |
| ochosi | so greybird, elementary-xfce and the LO icons | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | ok | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | I might dump lo-icons into xubuntu-artwork for now | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | maybe | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | I'll work on that and other things tonight | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | also | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | "ooh, you fixed geary in greybird" | 11:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, i thought i'd do one for your motivation ;) | 11:21 |
| ochosi | had to add some custom theming though | 11:21 |
| ochosi | but that was expected | 11:21 |
| ochosi | and yeah, let's put the LO icons in -artwork for now | 11:21 |
| ochosi | there's that member of the LO community that wants the icons upstream, so i won't do anything there toin order to not duplicate the effort | 11:23 |
| bluesabre | yeah, makes sense | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | and makes it easier | 11:24 |
| ochosi | for us, anyway ;) | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu-artwork or src:xubuntu-artwork? | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | it will be stuck in -proposed for a few days, I'll have the style create its own package like xubuntu-icon-theme | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | lp:xubuntu-artwork will create libreoffice-style-elementary or xubuntu-libreoffice-theme or something | 11:26 |
| ochosi | i'd prefer the prior | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | same, just not sure if there'd be any complaints | 11:27 |
| ochosi | the latter obfuscates the project name too much imo | 11:27 |
| ochosi | well we can always point to that discussion on github if anybody complains that we're not upstreaming | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | mhm | 11:27 |
| Unit193 | I'd highly prefer the former, considering that follows the package naming of the other themes. | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | ofc | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | I'd prefer the former too | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | but yeah, I'll get the ball rolling on that tonight | 11:28 |
| Unit193 | But then again I want burritos too. | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | oh yeah | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1473952 | 11:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1473952 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Choose preferred pinentry method" [Undecided,New] | 11:31 |
| bluesabre | I'm guessing gtk2 for us for now, right? | 11:31 |
| ochosi | humm | 11:33 |
| ochosi | dunno, what's the visual diff? | 11:33 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Have to keep an eye on Debian 791441, but yes gtk2. | 11:33 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 791441 in gnupg-agent "Add more flexible mechanism to set the default pinentry per desktop environment" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/791441 | 11:33 |
| bluesabre | dunno, don't have anything using pinentry | 11:34 |
| ochosi | i just wonder whether there are any downsides to using gnome3, even if just for the sake of not having to change the seed | 11:34 |
| ochosi | me neither | 11:34 |
| bluesabre | but if the gtk2 version is offered, it would likely be easier on us in the long run | 11:35 |
| ochosi | i guess | 11:37 |
| ochosi | hard to say when you've seen neither :) | 11:37 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:37 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hmm, any idea what the easiest way would be to test evince with headerbar? | 12:04 |
| ochosi | (in xubuntu, that is) | 12:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: virtualbox, install fedora | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | no idea | 12:10 |
| ochosi | hah, meh | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 12:10 |
| ochosi | okeydokey | 12:10 |
| ochosi | just wanted to fix some small visual nuisances there | 12:10 |
| ochosi | but i guess that'll have to wait | 12:11 |
| ochosi | hf bluesabre | 12:11 |
| Unit193 | XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME evince | 12:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: | 12:12 |
| Unit193 | o | 12:12 |
| ochosi | oh right | 12:13 |
| ochosi | that was easy | 12:13 |
| ochosi | thanks Uni | 12:13 |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 12:13 |
| Unit193 | Also, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/evince/wily/view/head:/debian/patches/traditional_menu_bar.patch#L91 | 12:13 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, i fixed my sort issue in the open file dialog with this gsetting: "gsettings set org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser sort-directories-first true" | 12:15 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so in case anyone else encounters it, we might want to throw that into x-d-s | 12:16 |
| Unit193 | Just like turning off the GTK animations! :P | 12:17 |
| cyphermox | Unit193: I see, lots of stuff... though also lots we really really don't care about and don't want to ship | 13:30 |
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| Noskcaj | pinentry-gnome3 just means it's the gtk3 version, there's no gnome specific stuff. | 19:24 |
| Noskcaj | -gtk2 is apparently missing some features, which is why debian only depends on -gnome3 | 19:24 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, If you haven't already seen it, mugshot and menulibre are ftbfs with python3.5 | 19:39 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: any details as to what features? (and i still don't have a clue because i have no device to use this with) | 19:44 |
| Noskcaj | quoting debian's gnome team "No, we want pinentry-gnome3 for GNOME, since only that provides a proper UI/replacement for the builtin prompter." | 19:45 |
| ochosi | hm, still no clue, sorr | 19:46 |
| ochosi | y | 19:46 |
| Unit193 | Because it is GTK3, thus the only one good enough for GNOME? :P | 19:47 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, I think that's most of it | 19:48 |
| Noskcaj | But if we can use -gnome3 i'd prefer that, it seems to work fine locally | 19:48 |
| Unit193 | cyphermox: Right, I agree. I used https://bitbucket.org/snippets/unit193/agkpy | 19:48 |
| Unit193 | I personally like gtk2 better, so if there's anything that it's an option on.. :P | 19:49 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: pushed more artwork updates over the course of today, might push one or two more tomorrow, if time permits. so friday is definitely a good date for up-ing that. | 21:31 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: nice | 21:40 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: good to know | 21:40 |
| bluesabre | yay more bugs | 21:40 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:40 |
| ochosi | and evening bluesabre | 21:47 |
| ochosi | what're you up to? | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: not much, just got home | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | eating pizza rolls | 21:49 |
| ochosi | yummy | 21:49 |
| ochosi | bon appetit | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | thanks for the geary fix | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | very nice at work | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | aaaaand done | 21:50 |
| ochosi | heh | 21:51 |
| ochosi | yeah, i went through the issues list for greybird today and tried to cut it in half | 21:54 |
| bluesabre | nice work | 21:54 |
| ochosi | i'm sort of hesitant as to whether i should try plain gtk3 without any ubuntu mods | 21:54 |
| ochosi | i guess that would expose more issues | 21:54 |
| ochosi | but then again, i really don't want to have to rebase on adwaita | 21:55 |
| ochosi | so i might do a greybird 1.6 next | 21:55 |
| ochosi | since it does in fact provide basic gtk3.16 support | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | sounds reasonable | 21:55 |
| ochosi | anyway, if you get around to testing wily more and if you see more glitches there, please let me know | 22:00 |
| ochosi | would prefer to get in a few more fixes before 1.6, but i also want to release soon | 22:00 |
| bluesabre | np | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | I actually run wily as my main now | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | and that is to say that I don't really have any issues | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | other than my minor gripes about gtk 3.16 usability | 22:24 |
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