=== alket_ is now known as alket [02:31] * ahoneybun hugs sgclark for packaging 5.3.2 on wily [02:31] it is amazing [07:10] is 5.3.2 backported to vivid, or only 5.4? === amichair_ is now known as amichair [07:21] I would like to test qt 5.5 :D [08:10] ahoneybun: Good to hear :) [08:11] Good morning. [08:12] wow, wily is gorgeous [08:12] \o/ [08:12] but I'm getting no desktop after sddm fades [08:13] Hmm, that is less. [08:13] Kwinrc mucking things up? I get that at times under Plasma4. [08:14] I got a brandnew little netbook, and son couldn't find a wily bootable iso so he put unity on it, then added kubuntu-desktop [08:14] I'm wondering if that was an error [08:16] Hmm, I had the same problem last weekend, couldn't find a bootable Wily image. [08:17] valorie: plasma-desktop is installed? [08:17] when I login, and go to tty4, I get login: [ 4418.206692] [drm:intel_set_cpu_fifo_underrun_reporting [i915]] *ERROR* uncleared fifo underrun on pipe A [08:18] [ 4418.206692] [drm:intel_set_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun [08:20] oops, second # should be 4418.206767 [08:21] heh love those FIFO errors :) [08:22] but they are all gone for me sine kernel 4 [08:22] Kiranos_: no, they are not yet backported to Vivid [08:23] 5.3.2 is WIP [08:23] amichair: ^ [08:23] soee: so these are kernel errors? [08:23] valorie: i have no idea [08:23] soee: ok, thanks [08:23] valorie: i had some FIFO error messgaes during booting (after plymouth) [08:24] valorie: Drivers errors, the i915 in particular. [08:24] but they are gone since kernel 4 [08:24] wow, and I can only get into tty4 [08:25] that's really odd, since unity works just fine [08:26] I guess I'll just deal with Unity until Akademy [08:26] The way I interpret the error is that the driver is complaining it gets too little data. But that with a huge grain of salt ;) [08:26] and hope someone can help me boot kubuntu there [08:26] such a cute little fondleslab! [08:28] http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-13-7347-laptop/pd [08:32] ah Dell +1 :) [08:33] got 7348, works well on vivid [08:33] actually, the install seems broken - apt-cache reports that kubuntu-desktop is not installed; apt-get -f install reports that kde-telepathy-minimal depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0 but it is not going to be installed [08:33] (there's no auto-rotate, though) === tazz_ is now known as tazz [08:35] when I try to install *that*, I get even more errors [08:35] just tried installing pastebinit, but get the same error as above [08:35] valorie: What errors? [08:36] kde-telepathy-minimal depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0 but it is not going to be installed [08:37] What is the output of 'apt-cache policy kde-config-telepathy-accounts'? [08:37] the big error when trying to install -accounts is a dpkg error [08:37] Details? [08:39] trying to overwrite /usr/share/accounts/services/google.im.service which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+15.04.2015.1-0ubuntu1 [08:39] hard to type a perfect copy [08:39] Ah, if that is all ;). Install the telepathy-accounts manually with dpkg and the --force-overwrite flag. [08:39] Then let apt-get install -f do its thing. [08:40] can you remind me how that goes? I've only done that a few times [08:40] valorie: cd to /var/cache/apt/archives [08:40] Find the deb package of telepathy: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite .deb [08:42] I'm there, but only in a terminal [08:42] can' [08:42] t scroll up or copy anything [08:43] ls gives me too big a list [08:43] For the filename you mean? Use autocompletion: kde-config-telepathy-accounts [08:43] ok [08:46] buh, tab does nothing [08:47] Hmm, it should... 'ls kde-config-telepathy*' do you see the package then? [08:51] I guess on teh packagename from what apt-cache told me, however when I ran the command it said it depends on kaccounts-integration which is not configured yet, which depends on.....5 more layers of the onion [08:52] -data, -kaccounts, -kpeople, libkaccounts, etc. [08:52] I wonder if I can just uninstall telepathy and solve it that way [08:52] because it seems borken [08:52] I suppose you can. [08:54] damn, it removes a whole lot..... [08:54] how in the heck does all of kde depend on telepathy! [09:02] yeah now I'm in dependency hell [09:09] crap, now it won't boot into unity anymore [09:09] giving up for the night [09:10] ;D [10:40] hi - is the PPA for 15.04 going to be updated for plasma 5.3.2 / frameworks 5.12? [10:43] yossarianuk: Plasma 5.3.2 will land in backoprts when packages are ready. I'm not sure about Frameworks 5.12 but anyway they first need to get into Wily. [10:44] Riddell: ^ might now more about frameworks [10:45] yossarianuk: if someone does the work, sgclark is the only one working on backports currently === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [11:10] Riddell: soee: cheers, are you both running Wily now (or is it to early)? [11:10] I'm on wily, it's all good for me [11:10] although people have reported problems with the upgrade [11:11] cheers - may change home desktop... I was running 15.04 a few months before release with no issues (even managed to give a couple of bug reports) [11:11] the snappy stuff - is this not affecting kubuntu ? [11:13] Upgrade is not without bumps, but furthermore Wily is nice. [11:14] cool - ill install from .iso rather than upgrade... [11:15] The iso's didn't boot here, hence I was forced to go the upgrade path. [11:16] So far I've been unable to do-release-upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 on my laptop, but likely PPAs are my specific issue [11:17] yossarianuk: I've not looked into snappy but I've no plans to start converting parts of KDE software into snappy packages [11:22] cheers Riddell: wasn't 100% sure if Ubuntu core packages were being snappyfied... [11:22] only a few for now as I understand it, gedit etc [11:25] yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350061 I am reasonable certain that should be on reviewboard [11:25] KDE bug 350061 in Installation "Fails to build on ubuntu armhf (OpenGL != OpenGLES)" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:47] Riddell: have you looked into telepathy-accounts-signon yet? [11:47] sitter: the overlapping files you mean? [11:48] no [11:48] new thing mck182 released a couple of days ago [11:48] telepathy-accounts-signon ? the one that stoped valorie from using kubuntu-desktop ? [11:48] unlikely :P [11:48] ;) [11:48] it will be a required runtime dep for kde-telepathy 15.08 [11:59] hm [12:00] mck182: ktp-common-internals is wrong [12:00] it shouldn't mark the signon plugin REQUIRED [12:00] but RUNTIME [12:00] it is...both [12:00] there is no reason for it being installed at build time? [12:01] hmm I guess [12:01] ok [12:01] somehow I thought that cmake will be smarter with required-runtime *shrug* [12:01] mck182: yeah, I never quite got my head around the runtime thing entirely [12:02] you'd think RUNTIME would imply REQUIRED unless overridden [12:02] alas, that's not how it works [12:02] i.e. a distro would override RUNTIME->REQUIRED during a build, whereas for a user RUNTIME->REQUIRED would be true and should be enforced [12:03] sitter: I've removed the REQUIRED [12:03] cheers [12:03] pushed [12:10] Hiyas all [12:19] Riddell, shadeslayer: revu plz https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+sourcepub/5216873/+listing-archive-extra [12:19] * sitter hasn't made a proper !kde package in years [12:22] mck182: most dificult question... which of our 300 binary packages should actually drag the plugin in xD [12:22] libktpcommoninternals9 itself perhaps? [12:23] sitter: yeah, go for that one [12:26] sitter: missing Vcs fields? [12:26] sitter: patches/ can be removed [12:27] there is no vcs [12:27] sitter: straight dh instead of pkg-kde ? [12:27] it's not kde software [12:27] upstream includes GPL when nothing seems to be GPL licenced [12:28] mck182: ^ [12:28] Mirv: what do I have to build depend on to make qtchooser actually not commit suicide? so far I have qtbase5-dev and qt5-qmake [12:28] sitter: what's that? [12:29] mck182: the COPYING can be deleted, tehre is nothing using the gpl [12:29] sitter: but where? ktp-common-internals? [12:29] mck182: telepathy-accounts-signon [12:29] ah [12:30] sitter: W: telepathy-accounts-signon source: dependency-is-not-multi-archified telepathy-accounts-signon-dbg depends on telepathy-accounts-signon (multi-arch: no) [12:30] W: telepathy-accounts-signon source: dep5-copyright-license-name-not-unique (paragraph at line 30) [12:30] W: telepathy-accounts-signon source: missing-license-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright lgpl-2.1+ (paragraph at line 26) [12:30] is it suppoesd to put files into /usr/lib/mission-control-plugins.0/ ? [12:31] yes [12:31] it is a mission control plugin :P [12:31] it takes the path from pkg-config [12:32] $ pkg-config mission-control-plugins --variable=plugindir [12:32] hm [12:32] why did I my lintian not complain [12:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11887501/ [12:33] other people's software 99% of the time just makes me go :@ [12:34] sitter: export QT_SELECT := qt5 in debian/rules [12:34] ufff [12:34] Mirv: that seems so incredibly naughty -.- [12:34] sitter: qtchooser has caused a lot of discussion on whether it should have been ever invented or not ;) [12:35] yeah [12:35] sitter: there's qt5-default package that sets the default to be qt5, but its usage is discouraged [12:35] every time I have to deal with it I find it grossly underwhelming [12:36] Riddell sitter: https://gitlab.com/accounts-sso/telepathy-accounts-signon/commit/f01a6d9eccad24a3cb4a5300fb0ae0fd426cc815 [12:36] will be in next release I guess [12:38] sitter: the alternative of renaming everything to be suffixed with -qt4/-qt5 was selected by eg Fedora, but then again upstream recommends against that all the documentation in the world uses the non-suffixed names [12:38] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+sourcepub/5216903/+listing-archive-extra [12:38] should fix everything [12:38] can't know for sure since my lintian doesn't want to talk to me :P [12:38] * Riddell gets an ice cream before checking [12:38] * sitter goes for a quick swim meanwhile [12:53] sitter: you have a pool?! [12:53] shadeslayer was at a hot tub party last week, he didn't think to invite us [12:56] sitter: dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field [12:56] sitter: W: telepathy-accounts-signon source: dependency-is-not-multi-archified telepathy-accounts-signon-dbg depends on telepathy-accounts-signon (multi-arch: no) [12:57] which seems a little strange to me if it's multi-arch: no [12:57] oh :) http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-updates-ubuntu-licensing-terms-after-two-year-discussions-with-fsf-487054.shtml [13:00] Riddell: indoor, outdoor, quarry pond and a river all reachable in 5 minutes [13:00] and I am not even living in the big city \o/ [13:00] Riddell: multiarch yeah I dunno, lintian being drunk again [13:01] uh [13:01] actually [13:01] Riddell: in this instance it makes sense [13:02] since the dbg would have the same basepath which is not multiarch in *theory* it is not multiarch:same (practically ti is though since AFAIK the debug symbols have a unique id anywayu so there is no conflict to be had [13:02] that's not what lintian is actually complain about though :P [13:02] Riddell: I'll just remove the multiarchness, that should resolve it [13:02] any other complaints? [13:03] sitter: I don't have a glass of ice cold cava infront of me [13:03] Mirv: thanks, qt_select made it work :/ [13:04] Riddell: btw breeze and oxygen stil not building in CI [13:04] seems like a packaging problem [13:04] might be unstable only though [13:04] hmm ok [13:04] packaging too complicated to comprehend >.< [13:05] Uploading telepathy-accounts-signon_1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [13:05] Successfully uploaded packages. [13:05] should arrive in new queue shortly [13:17] sitter: you're welcome [13:18] mck182: I can delete kte-collaborative from the archive now? [13:19] Riddell: uhh....no idea [13:19] but I guess it wasn't ported [13:19] lemme ping the maintainer [13:19] experimental kate plugin I think it was [13:20] sitter: telepathy-accounts-signon accepted! [13:27] \o/ [13:29] lots of frameworks for the fixing for any keen packagers :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html [13:30] sitter: on the wayland hard deps thread on release-team, I guess kci means we can confirm it's all good for us? [13:39] Riddell: yes [13:39] martin did ask for people complaining not people green lighting though :P [13:40] now that's just asking for a miserable life === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | KF 5.12 Wily build status: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html | Welcome ximion! [14:21] lordievader: very happy so far about wily [14:22] ahoneybun: That is good to hear :) [14:22] lordievader: Plasma 5.3.2 fixed thaat problem with the widget crashing plasma [14:23] How is nVidia prime treating you? [14:24] rocking the nvidia driver [14:24] have not moved to the intel [14:24] and gaming seems to work, I was playing Dying Light with no problems so far [14:25] Heh [14:40] sitter: yes, it should. I had other stuff to do back then so I just filed a bug [14:44] santa_: where are your kde-config-systemd fixes again? [14:46] yofel: right now only in my ppa https://launchpad.net/~panfaust/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-kf5-experiments [14:46] didn't have time to submit them properly [14:46] thanks, I'll look at them in a bit [14:47] yofel: there was a launchpad bug so you might want to close it in the changelog [14:47] right, will do [14:48] yofel: oh and other small detail, if you want to make it buildable in debian, make sure you build depend on systemd [14:48] I had to add it for siduction [14:48] ok [14:49] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=647788 [14:49] Debian bug 647788 in systemd "systemd: Please provide systemd.pc in a separate package" [Wishlist,Open] [14:49] ↑ that's why it's needed to build depend on systemd for debian [15:35] santa_: uploaded, thanks [15:43] yofel: excellent, thank you [15:44] santa_: actually, I only realized that too late, but why did you remove the hardening flags? Are they included in pkd-kde-tools? [15:49] doesn't look like it [15:49] hmm, it tought it would, let me check, then [15:54] yofel: the -Wl,--as-needed are included so no need to tell that explicitly in the rules [15:54] checking the others... [15:54] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211821795/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kde-config-systemd_1.2.0-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [15:55] right, those are included, but I don't see anything hardening related there [15:57] ok, just checked, it seems to me they are included too [15:58] -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 [15:58] ah, something pulls in hardening-includes, ok then [15:59] yofel: ↑ seen in the amd64 buildlog linked above [15:59] right, thanks for checking [16:13] Riddell: good evening, I made some progress on my gcc 5 investigation, but I need you to do me a small favor: could you please click the rebuild button for this? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+build/7648522 [16:13] I need to know how it behaves [16:16] santa_: retried === mck182 is now known as mck182|afk [18:25] ahoneybun: ping [18:26] ovidiu-florin: pong [18:26] how you doin'? [18:26] fine, wondering what you want me to do about the Download page... [18:26] I have no idea how that is handled [18:28] ahoneybun: what do you think of having another page that contains promotional content for download? [18:28] and have a link to it in the footer and in the download page [18:28] and you can add those there [18:29] ovidiu-florin: the dvd artwork, svgs of the logos and such [18:29] sounds good [18:29] do you need help in creating this page? [18:29] I have no idea how to [18:30] ahoneybun: login to the site [18:30] which one? [18:31] https://www-new.kubuntu.org [18:32] not safe I see [18:32] self signed cetificate by canonical sysadmins [18:32] ohhh you got openid into it too [18:32] niceeee [18:32] it'll go away on launch [18:32] oh :( [18:33] we'll have an CA signed certificate then [18:33] have you logged in? [18:33] yea [18:34] go to the Pages page [18:34] you have there an Add New button [18:34] I see [18:34] what I mean is about setting the page up layout wise [18:35] ahoneybun: change the Template [18:35] there's a dropdown for it [18:36] use the preview before you save [18:36] ok [18:36] let me know when this page is created so I may create the links to it [18:37] there is 2 Download pages in Parent [18:38] I've made the wrong one a draft [18:38] just now [18:38] we need a place to host the fiels [18:38] *files [18:38] should I leave the page blank? [18:39] hey soee [18:40] hiho [18:55] hohi [19:35] ahoneybun: how's it goin'? [19:36] what is going? [19:41] ovidiu-florin: what is going? [19:53] with the promotional content page [19:55] oh that [19:56] ovidiu-florin: where are we hosting it at? [19:57] what? [19:57] there is this page as well: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork [20:01] ahoneybun: then why did you create the new page on the site? [20:02] I just found that [20:02] and it is just a draft page on the site atm [20:03] Rick_Timmis: ping [20:04] ahoneybun: we should decide on one of them [20:04] site or wiki [20:04] for this [20:04] just use the wiki I guess, what do you think? [20:10] ahoneybun: you'd be using it the most [20:10] it's the same for me [20:10] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork [20:11] fine, then delete the page on the site [20:12] done [20:17] ahoneybun: just the front is there [20:17] I know [20:17] why not both? [20:17] I had to remake the whole thing in Inkscape [20:17] and have not started on the back [20:18] sick_rimmit: ! [20:18] ahoneybun: can you please also add the Romanian version to that page? [20:19] ovidiu-florin: give me a link to your version [20:20] ahoneybun: it's on OwnCloud [20:20] I know... [20:20] new install remember? [20:20] oh [20:20] do you remember your credentials? [20:23] the thing with inkscape is that it does not have layer groups [20:23] oh, crap [20:23] so we will have to make different files for each [20:24] ahoneybun: please ask in the Inkscape comunity if there is an alternative [20:24] to layer groups [20:24] because if we have separate files, and the original design changes... [20:24] it messes everything up [20:25] there has to be some ind of option to have a localisation enabled graphics project [20:30] I hate patches!! [20:31] why wont they work! [20:31] clivejo: try patching the patch :P [20:32] its saying a file doesnt exist, but it clearly exists! [20:33] clivejo: check the path to the file [20:33] compare every character, not just letters [20:33] I have [20:33] driving me insane [20:36] ovidiu-florin: https://paste.kde.org/p2rcd0a2i [20:38] can you paste the patch and a tree output? [20:38] Im in ~/project/calligra/new2/calligra-2.9.6/debian [20:38] I might fall asleep, sorry if I fail to respond [20:38] running quilt pop -a [20:39] I might go remove my eyes with spoons! [20:40] clivejo: if they are the same, then you're looking in the wrong place [20:40] I say this from experience [20:40] https://paste.kde.org/pdump0zer [20:40] thats the patch Im trying to install [20:41] clivejo: Im guessing here really but does Patch need its P ref amending [20:41] apply [20:41] The paste bin looks like its looking in the wrong place [20:41] I updated the patch file to the new version [20:42] I still get confused by Patch -p but man could be your friend [20:42] do you have this path calligra-2.9.6.orig ? [20:43] I got to go again folks, it's mad crazy at Timmis Towers [20:44] see you soon [20:44] * sick_rimmit Out [20:44] no [20:44] what about in ../../ ? [20:44] ~/project/calligra/new2 [20:44] there is a tar file [20:45] calligra-2.9.6.tar.xz [20:46] then where is the orig dir? [20:49] thats the tarball I downloaded [20:49] the cp it to calligra_2.9.6.orig.tar.xz [20:49] extracted inthe calligra-2.9.6 [20:55] ovidiu-florin: I just have to found out about changing the text color to a custom color [20:56] zzzz [20:57] XD [20:57] almost done https://trello.com/c/hWETu7ry/55-update-new-site-with-new-articles [20:57] * ahoneybun hands ovidiu-florin some coffee [20:57] uh oh systemd updates almost every day :) [20:58] no coffe [20:58] I have to wake up at 6:30 [20:58] * genii hands ovidiu-florin some valarian root tea instead [20:58] I need the day to be longer [21:02] * ovidiu-florin out, night [21:03] ovidiu-florin: we could say with xcf internally and just have the svg for Canonical when it comes time print [21:08] Riddell: my experiment of a kubuntu ppa simulation suceeded http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_kf5.html [21:09] I will try to find some time to send you patches [21:11] fyi the status page was generated with a fork of the stuff you have to generate yours, the code is maintained here: https://gitlab.com/siduction-tools/kdenext-build-status [21:31] clivejo: seen the kamoso release? [21:32] Riddell: no [21:32] Im stuck with calligra [21:32] stupid f'in patches [21:34] going crazy here [21:36] uh why KF 5.12 is so red :( [21:37] Riddell: Im getting this error while trying to apply the patches - https://paste.kde.org/p2rcd0a2i [21:38] soee: gcc 5 transition [21:38] clivejo: so look at the patch file, look at the files it patches and see why it's not applying and if you think you can fix it up [21:38] if you can then quilt push -f [21:38] I have [21:38] emacs CMakeLists.txt and fix it [21:38] quilt refresh [21:39] but where is calligra-2.9.6.orig/CMakeLists.txt ? [21:39] Riddell: does it have influance laso on ther packages except KF ? [21:40] soee: bad command or file name [21:41] oh ? [21:51] soee: I don't understand what you just asked [21:51] clivejo: it's just the top CMakeLists.txt file [21:51] Riddell: finally figured it out [21:52] yay! [21:53] needed QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches in my ~/.quiltrc file [22:04] clivejo: oh well done, sorry I forgot that [22:05] compiling/building now [22:05] 12% [22:10] time for a cafe con hielo [22:19] a what? [22:25] coffee with ice [23:40] does kate keep backups of files it was editting? [23:49] I was keeping a text file with instructions on how to package and its gone :/