[02:39] <PiL> lubuntu rocks
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[03:03] <binaryhermit> so, should I download 14.04 or 15.04?
[03:07] <binaryhermit> actually, strike that, I'll just go for the most obvious 64 bit torrent link on lubuntu.net
[03:10] <binaryhermit> since that'd be the recommended version, probably (and fwiw it appears to be 15.04)
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[08:50] <johndavepallan> hello to all
[08:51] <johndavepallan> lubuntu works great on my acer laptop :d
[13:50] <Ellon> Hi
[13:50] <Ellon> Suddenly my sound is gone
[13:56] <Ellon> Anybody home?
[13:58] <bioterror> have you tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[13:59] <Ellon> nop havent tried anything came straight here
[13:59] <bioterror> give it a shot for those aplay commands
[14:01] <Ellon> aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[14:02] <Ellon> it worked before restart
[14:02] <bioterror> did you have kernel update or something like that?
[14:03] <Ellon> i upgraded to 15
[14:04] <Ellon> but it worked after upgrade.. i simply restarted notebook now and no sound :>
[14:04] <bioterror> restart again :D
[14:05] <Ellon> hmm im busy playing a game :D
[14:05] <Ellon> but thansk
[17:37] <Ellon> hui
[17:37] <Ellon> hi
[17:37] <holstein> o/
[17:37] <Ellon> How to burn windows ISO to DVD in lubuntu?
[17:38] <holstein> Ellon: not sure that "windows" allows that
[17:38] <Ellon> huh?\
[17:38] <holstein> Ellon: regardless, you can use *any* burning software to burn any iso image to whatever media
[17:38] <Ellon> how to do it in lubuntu?
[17:39] <holstein> how i would do it is by simply opening brasero, since, i know how to use brasero.. but, xfburn, etcc.. they all do that
[17:39] <holstein> you'll make a copy, choosing the disc (dvd in this case) as the destination, and the image as the source
[17:40] <holstein> but, you may not be allowed to do that with a windows product.. they dont support that
[17:40] <Ellon> but it's an ISO
[17:41] <holstein> correct..
[17:42] <Ellon> ok
[17:42] <Ellon> ill try brasero
[17:42] <holstein> you can use *any* burning software. they *all* do it.. its the source, in your case, that will be the "wild card"
[17:43] <Ellon> i have a lot of problems with lubuntu :/
[17:43] <holstein> microsoft doenst promise you.. "obtain an image/iso from where ever you like, and burn it to DVD".. they sell that product, and dont easily provide ways to burn the iso's like that
[17:43] <ianorlin> ask and you might receive answers
[17:43] <Ellon> Well 1 issue is not fixable\
[17:44] <holstein> Ellon: feel free and ask, and a volunteer may be able to assist with an issue :)
[17:44] <holstein> Ellon: *everything* is fixable..
[17:44] <Ellon> I have outdated graphics driver and it performs very laggy on lubuntu
[17:44] <Ellon> On windows it's supported :/
[17:44] <holstein> right.. but, the creators of that hardware are welcome to support linux
[17:44] <Ellon> i know it's not lubuntu fault
[17:44] <holstein> that would "fix" it.. but, if they dont.. then, you may have to deal with a compromise
[17:45] <holstein> well, its just not lubuntu/ubuntu/linux responsibility... thats all
[17:45] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_on_the_Command_Line_with_wodim
[17:45] <bioterror> quite easy
[17:46] <Ellon> Second issue is that sound got lost
[17:46] <holstein> !audio
[17:46] <ubottu> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[17:46] <holstein> ^ thats where i start..
[17:46] <Ellon> Yeah i tried, it doesn't recognize sound card
[17:47] <Ellon> But the most annoyig thing is that graphics card lag
[17:47] <Ellon> I just need to throw out this old pc
[17:48] <holstein> Ellon: if it "got lost", then, it *did* work? correct?
[17:48] <Ellon> holstein yes
[17:48] <holstein> the "best" thing i did, in my linux path was, purchase hardware with linux support in mind..
[17:48] <Ellon> worked at first... but im not in mood fixing it :)
[17:48] <Ellon> holstein yes if i purchase laptop in future i'll do that
[17:49] <holstein> well, nothing is "broken" to fix.. thats the trick
[17:49] <Ellon> Simple as that. My laptop is too old
[17:49] <ianorlin> Ellon: what graphics card is it?
[17:50] <Ellon> ATIX1200
[17:50] <Ellon> x1200
[17:50] <Ellon> `128mb :)
[17:50] <ianorlin> and what are you trying to do with it?
[17:50] <Ellon> i was thinking to install old lubuntu or ubuntu version where it support ati old legacy drivers :) But would it work?
[17:51] <ianorlin> I think that might be too old for proprietary
[17:51] <Ellon> ianorlin just watching youtube gives problem
[17:51] <ianorlin> Ellon: what are you using to watch it?
[17:51] <Ellon> mozilla, chrome
[17:52] <ianorlin> I have had some success copying and pasting the url into vlc
[17:52] <ianorlin> but not sure if that would work better
[17:52] <ianorlin> or maybe even mpv
[17:52] <Ellon> heh
[17:53] <holstein> youtube/flash will not be a good test
[17:53] <bioterror> you can pipe youtube-dl into vlc
[17:53] <Ellon> I simply need to switch to windows 7 :).. just because of video driver
[17:53] <holstein> win7 wont likely support your older hardware "better"
[17:54] <holstein> but, you are welcome to try
[17:54] <Ellon> it's old pc :/
[17:54] <Ellon> no video graphics work much better.
[17:54] <bioterror> well
[17:54] <bioterror> x1200 is too old for playing hd stuff properly
[17:54] <Ellon> Im sure on older lubuntu my old laptop would work very well
[17:55] <bioterror> so I bet the computer uses CPU for playing videos
[17:55] <bioterror> right?
[17:55] <Ellon> yeah
[17:55] <Ellon> ATI is to blame here :)
[17:55] <bioterror> maybe you could use regular vesa drivers
[17:56] <Ellon> are there difference?
[17:56] <holstein> they never promised you "use whatever linux distro you want".. or, "enjoy support for the hardware under windows through the next 3 versions".. its not ATI's fault.. they did as promised
[17:56] <holstein> !vesa
[17:56] <ubottu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[17:56] <holstein> vesa drivers are what i use on older hardware
[17:57] <Ellon> ok ATI you got me
[18:00] <holstein> when im coming to any hardware like that, i try and keep in mind that, a team of experts worked likely years to provide support for a completely different operating system, and, that when i do it,it may be problematic, or i mayy need to accept compromise
[18:01] <holstein> i'll simply load up quite a few live iso's and test as much as i can.. the audio, the video.. the suspend, if thats important
[18:01] <holstein> with some older machines with very problematic VGA support under linux, i may simply use those headless.. without x.. if thats appropriate
[18:02] <holstein> at this time, i would be looking for 12.04 live versions of ubuntu, 14.04, and 15.04.. seeing what works well, and what doesnt
[18:02] <Ellon> it comes to this, everything has it's time to serve :)
[18:02] <holstein> i would also try one of the distros that is intended for older hardware.. maybe one of the ones based on debian stable..
[18:03] <holstein> something with a kernel closer to that era.. with potentially "better" support
[18:03] <Ellon> but how will debian help me?
[18:03] <Ellon> hmm
[18:03] <holstein> as i said, something that is closer to that era
[18:04] <Ellon> do you mean installing older debian>
[18:04] <holstein> im not promising debian will help you..just that, i might personally try a debian stable based distro.. or, another one specifically for older hardware
[18:04] <holstein> Ellon: i mean, literally opening a web search, and looking for distros created for doing what you are trying to do
[18:05] <Ellon> but would other apps work on older debian ?
[18:05] <bioterror> what other?
[18:05] <Ellon> like newest chrome
[18:05] <bioterror> Ubuntu loans lots of stuff from the Debian
[18:05] <holstein> Ellon: *thats* the compromises, you may have to deal with
[18:06] <holstein> but, i dont think latest chrome has any issues running on most distros.. you'll just have to decide
[18:06] <holstein> but, for me, as i stated above, thats the arc of testing.. testing *hardware*.. *then*, after i have the hardware setup, i move to a browser
[18:06] <holstein> trying to just get flash support in chrome.. that may not be possible on that machine
[18:07] <holstein> flash, youtube.. google.. they dont promise "get any old machine you like, and install linux on it, and enjoy our videos".. it may not be realistic to expect HD playback on unsupported hardware
[18:14] <bioterror> Ellon, can you give us some specs about the computer?
[18:14] <bioterror> it was a laptop?
[18:14] <Ellon> 1gb ram, ati x1200 128mb ram. AMD mobile Sempron proccessor
[18:15] <Ellon> HP Compaq 6715s
[18:15] <bioterror> it's not that bad
[18:15] <bioterror> older business model
[18:18] <Ellon> it came with windows vista
[18:20] <bioterror> I would go with the SalixOS and try OpenBox version of it