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EmexicanMhall119: I will check that out right meow.00:16
EmexicanHeh, I got the same error as ahoneybun... I did not kill ofono. Working on killing that now00:18
EmexicanI can't kill the /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-ofono00:29
ahoneybunEmexican: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/146357400:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1463574 in nuntium (Ubuntu RTM) "Using MMS will cause Data to stop working" [Undecided,Incomplete]00:32
EmexicanAfter I run "sudo kill PID#" and run ps aux to check, it is still running00:32
ahoneybunjust has some examples00:32
EmexicanThanks, I am going to read that. brb00:33
EmexicanThe file I am looking for is /var/lib/ofono/*/gprs00:57
EmexicanI still cannot get access to the * portion of that dir. I get permission denied.00:59
EmexicanI am in the process of spinning up a vm to connect to the phone through.01:00
ahoneybunif you use sudo Emexican it will say cd command not found for me'01:02
ahoneybunmight have to be writable01:02
EmexicanI did try to sudo cd into that dir, and I received the same error as you ahoneybun.01:03
EmexicanAfter reading this bug, it seems like the APN is set correctly for TmobileUSA. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/136040301:06
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1360403 in nuntium (Ubuntu) "MMS does not work with T-Mobile US" [High,In progress]01:06
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mah454Hello04:29
mah454How can unlock bootloader in Meizu MX4 ?04:30
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mah454Hello04:57
mah454I have a problem04:57
mah454How can unlock meizu mx4 boot loader ?04:57
mah454I want to install ubuntu touch on it ...04:57
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anpok_tedg: could you take a look, and TA https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/ubuntu-app-launch/mir-release-0.14.0/+merge/26298706:58
seb128anpok_, that's an empty commit it seems?07:04
anpok_yes.. we only need to rebuild it in the mir-0.14 silo07:05
seb128anpok_, why? the commit message could mention it so people like me don't wonder07:07
seb128like "rebuild for libmirclient abi change"07:07
seb128or whatever is the reason07:08
seb128we usually don't rebuild things just because07:08
dholbachgood morning07:13
nhainesGood morning!07:14
sturmflut2dholbach: Morning!07:15
dholbachhey sturmflut207:15
anpok_seb128: ok, added more info to the MP commit message07:36
seb128anpok_, thanks07:37
seb128anpok_, I approved it, seems obvious I don't think we need to wait for tedg to wake up for that one ;-)07:37
anpok_thx!07:38
seb128yw!07:38
anpok_I expected him to have irc alarm.. and wake up midnight just to TA MPs07:38
seb128yeah, he should!07:40
seb128slacker07:40
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tsdgeosseb128: you assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471581 to unity8, but there's no Delete string in there07:59
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1471581 in Ubuntu UX ""Delete" string in the messaging indicator is confusing" [Undecided,New]07:59
seb128tsdgeos, right, it's just using the deprecated uitk listitem widget with its "delete:" action which does that07:59
seb128tsdgeos, it might be in unity-settings-component though08:00
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tsdgeosseb128: right08:15
seb128tsdgeos, note that it's more of a design thing, getting ride of the string wouldn't solve the confusion issue08:19
tsdgeosseb128: sure, it's not getting ride of the string08:19
tsdgeosit's fixing it08:19
seb128tsdgeos, well, it would give the red trash icon that other apps have I guess08:19
seb128but that still has the confusion the user is complaining about08:20
tsdgeosseb128: the problem with ListItems.Empty is that you can't even change the string afaics08:20
seb128delete acting on the notification vs the message08:20
tsdgeosyeah the [x] icon is better for that08:20
tsdgeosit's more closing than deleting08:20
tsdgeosso it's like "yeah go away"08:20
seb128tsdgeos, bug #1449942 is somewhat similar08:22
ubot5bug 1449942 in Ubuntu UX "[notifications] Slide to remove doesn't follow overall design" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144994208:22
seb128or at least adressing one would solve the other08:22
tsdgeosi guess so yes08:22
seb128commented on the bug to say that08:23
seb128dednick, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/ubuntu-settings-components/dpr/+merge/253944 (and maybe some of the other pending mrs on this component)08:25
seb128mzanetti, doing a landing for u-s-c is still on your todolist?08:25
mzanettiseb128, yep. actually in half an hour I have an appointment with dednick to train him to be a lander08:26
mzanettiand those are the branches to start with08:26
seb128mzanetti, great08:26
seb128bug #1396058 would be nice to see landing08:26
ubot5bug 1396058 in ubuntu-settings-components (Ubuntu) "[Messaging Menu] Using "enter" in the messaging menu entry looks like it sends the reply when it doesn't" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139605808:26
dednickseb128: sure08:27
seb128dednick, thanks08:27
dednickmzanetti: is there a bug related to that mp?08:27
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seb128shrug08:33
seb128I hate the "no adb when locked", I screwed a change in unity-settings-component and have a blank screen now, bricked device08:34
seb128and I can't get in to edit the file08:34
seb128I guess unity8 fails to start due some syntax error08:34
tsdgeosseb128: first thing i do is disable that :D08:35
seb128yeah08:35
seb128anything I can do now to fix it?08:35
tsdgeosseb128: reboot into recovery mode?08:36
tsdgeosi think you can adb when you're there08:36
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Corn Fritters Day! 😃08:40
seb128doesn't seem to work :-/08:44
seb128ogra_, ^ do you know if there is any way out?08:46
ogra_seb128, touch /userdata/.adb_onlock08:46
ogra_(and reboot)08:46
seb128ogra_, that's for next time, but now I've a bricked phone08:46
seb128unity8 fais to load08:46
seb128so I can't unlock08:46
ogra_oh, you can do the same from recovery08:46
seb128so I can't adb08:46
ogra_it mounts under /data there though08:47
seb128adb is disabled in recovery no?08:47
ogra_flash a recovery with adb08:47
seb128can't adb08:47
ogra_flash a recovery with adb08:47
ogra_:P08:47
seb128I don't understand08:47
seb128if adb is locked, how can I do something with adb?08:48
ogra_reboot in bootloader mode ... get the recovery.img with adb inside ... then use fastboot to flash the recovery (or to boot directly from the img)08:48
ogra_then use adb to mount /data and touch the file08:48
seb128"bootloader mode"?08:49
ogra_yeah08:49
seb128is that the menu you get with up?08:49
seb128or the recovery or fastboot mode?08:49
ogra_no, i think it has no menu08:49
ogra_fastboot mode :)08:49
seb128k08:49
seb128thanks08:49
ogra_its a bit of effort ... but you dont loose your data and can debug at least08:50
seb128yeah08:50
seb128thanks08:50
ogra_is that aralle or krillin ?08:50
ogra_-l08:50
jgdxpete-woods, hey, I thought wpa-ep would be disabled in the wizard? :) bug 147502308:51
ubot5bug 1475023 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Wifi for Enterprise APs cause the welcome wizard to exit into the main system" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147502308:51
ogra_seb128, if arale: wget http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img ...08:52
seb128ogra_, it's a bq08:52
ogra_ah08:52
pete-woodsjgdx: you are, indeed, correct. will have to fix that up08:52
jgdxpete-woods, I'm syncing hotspot bindings with trunk08:53
pete-woodsjgdx: awesome, thanks08:53
ogra_seb128, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5/602037#602037 has the links to the respective recovery.img's08:54
seb128ogra_, danke08:54
ogra_(we should really have a central wiki page with these three links)08:54
ogra_john-mcaleely, ^^^08:54
davmor2ogra_, seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ChannelsToFlash08:56
ogra_davmor2, hah, well hidden :P08:56
davmor2john-mcaleely: ignore ogra_ he just likes to stir things up08:58
ogra_:P08:59
seb128ogra_, k, I'm in a recovery with adb09:00
seb128what partition has the standard booted system /usr ?09:00
ogra_it is spread across two09:01
ogra_the writable bits are in the userdata partition that recovery mounts as /data09:01
ogra_readonly is in /system09:01
ogra_(iirc)09:01
seb128k, system was not mounted09:02
seb128is now09:02
seb128danke ;-)09:02
seb128wooot, back to a working phone09:04
seb128ogra_ beers counts += 309:04
ogra_:)09:04
john-mcaleelyogra_, davmor2 maybe a bot to reply instead of ogra_ ?09:09
ogra_stirbot ?09:09
john-mcaleelymaybe I need to be a bot, when you ping me09:10
john-mcaleelyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5/602037#60203709:10
jgdxpete-woods, synced. Anything you need from me here?09:10
john-mcaleelyevery time09:10
ogra_stirbot vs johnbot09:10
ogra_!09:10
jgdxpete-woods, you said you were working on something preliminary.. :)09:10
pete-woodsjgdx: well I'm hoping to test it out as soon as I can build uss after I pull your changes09:11
john-mcaleelystirbot vs johnbot deathmatch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Deathmatch09:11
pete-woodsmy internet is being particularly crap today, and I'm struggling to pull, though09:11
* davmor2 starts the pool, with Johnbot just ahead on sarcasm09:12
jgdxpete-woods, okay. btw, we don't want to land this immediately. When there's a silo, we want a call for testing.09:14
jgdxto get an idea of what carriers block hotspots and if there's something to do about it09:14
jgdx(I think, but let me check)09:14
pete-woodsjgdx: definitely. I don't want to screw this important stuff up09:15
jgdxabeato, I thought you confirmed bug 1466095 ?09:19
ubot5bug 1466095 in ofono (Ubuntu) "When setting VoiceUnconditional, change events for unset properties (e.g. VoiceBusy) are not reported" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146609509:19
abeatojgdx, hmm, not really, I have not checked it09:21
jgdxabeato, got it. I'll check this on the phone.09:22
abeatojgdx, however I think this can depend a lot of the operator... it can happen that when you set VoiceUnconditional the operator only changes part of the forwarding settings09:24
pete-woodsjgdx: buikding in silo 4609:26
jgdxpete-woods, cool, thanks.09:26
pete-woodsjgdx: this should *hopefully* also include the wakelock09:26
pete-woodsthough this is the first build I will be able to actually try out if any of this actually works09:27
jgdxabeato, okay. The UI deals with the situation right now, I just want to make sure that if this is really a bug, that a fix for it won't mess up the ui :)09:28
jgdxpete-woods, okay, that sounds scary. No local testing possible? :)09:29
abeatojgdx, ok, anyway I need to look this into more detail, it's been a while09:29
pete-woodsjgdx: yeah, going to test it on my arale, but this is the first build that the silo will prodice09:35
pete-woodsas before it was complaining that the branches were out of date09:36
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pete-woodsjgdx: :O it looks like it actually works10:24
pete-woodsat least I have a hotspot showing on my arale with silo 4610:24
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pete-woodshmmm, maybe spoke too soon, seems to have broken on the second press :(10:26
pete-woodsthe dbus interface to the system settings appears to be working10:33
pete-woodsmust be in the internals of the hotspot enablement10:33
pete-woodschanging the password and toggling made it work again10:34
pete-woodsmust be something slightly broken in the internals then10:34
jgdxpete-woods, second press?10:41
pete-woodsjgdx: as in turning it off and on again10:41
jgdxpete-woods, how did it break?10:42
pete-woodsjgdx: the hotspot just didn't seem to activate10:43
pete-woodsjgdx: indeed, leaving the thing running and the hotspot has gone off..10:44
pete-woodsobviously further work is required on the back end10:44
pete-woodsjgdx: ohh, have some actual errors now10:45
jgdxpete-woods, obv. But I remember this working when it was in system settings :p Is there a system connection file for the hotspot?10:45
pete-woodsinvestigating10:45
pete-woodsjgdx: I'm not blaming you. this must be during my absorption of hte code10:45
jgdxand what device?10:45
jgdxblame is good, solves problems10:45
pete-woodsha!10:46
pete-woodsblame just leads to denial :p10:46
pete-woodsthis is on an arale10:46
jgdxwhat are the errors?10:46
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pete-woodsjgdx: it was the dbus signal for password update that failed to be emitted10:51
pete-woodsback to USS, that is10:52
pete-woodsso it didn't break anything as such10:52
pete-woodsbut obviously needs to be fixed10:52
pete-woodsand I know why it broke10:52
jgdxnice!10:53
davmor2pete-woods, jgdx: you are both wrong blame is a big stick that QA beat developers with ;)10:54
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jgdxdavmor2, i just looked it up and you are actually right10:55
pete-woodsjgdx: sadly this will only fix that signal problem10:55
pete-woodsjgdx: will add some further debugging to indicator-network10:55
pete-woodsto see what's going wrong with the hotspot enablement10:55
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jgdxpete-woods, I'm trying to think of issues that you might hit. I'll install the silo as soon as I'm done testing silo 2210:59
pete-woodsjgdx: it's probably something stupid in there. will see what happens when adding more debug logging11:01
jgdxpete-woods, you're going to have a couple of wtf moments.11:04
pete-woodsjgdx: probably :) at any rate the NetworkManager config seems to have been generated correctly in /etc/NetworkMangager11:05
jgdxpete-woods, with autoconnect=true? We rely on that piece of magic11:05
pete-woodsjgdx: will check11:07
pete-woodsjgdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11887185/11:09
pete-woodsapparently now11:09
pete-woodsnot11:09
jgdxright, that might fumble things up.11:11
zzarrhello! is it possible to use a C++ enum in QML some how?11:15
pete-woodsjgdx: where would I expect that property to be set?11:15
pete-woodszzarr: afaik that's what the Q_ENUMS macros are about11:15
zzarris there a tutorial showing how to use it?11:16
jgdxpete-woods, the binding defaults to autoconnect=true.11:23
jgdxpete-woods, https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/indicator-network/hotspot-management/+merge/264431#diff-line-99411:24
jgdxpete-woods, does the indicator use libqfono?11:25
pete-woodsjgdx: it uses the same lib as USS, if I remember correctly11:26
pete-woodsyeah, libqofono11:26
jgdxright11:27
jgdxwe're trying to upgrade to 0.79 in silo 22, and I think I've spotted a regression in the indicator11:27
* jgdx has screenshot11:27
* pete-woods rebuilding silo 46 with logging and simple signal fix11:28
jgdxpete-woods, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211806335/screenshot20150716_132611547.png11:29
jgdxor maybe that's intended?11:30
jgdxI have no network, so the top icon is correct11:30
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pete-woodsjgdx: I doubt that ofono can cause that11:33
pete-woodsthe icons at the top are reported more or less directly from network manager11:33
pete-woodsbut I don't quite trust that code11:34
pete-woodsI've not got over it thoroughly yet11:34
jgdxpete-woods, but the icon besides [Carrier] [Signal strenght] is just reporting the technology?11:34
jgdxnot whether or not there's a network connection11:35
pete-woodsjgdx: it reports the bearer from ofono11:35
jgdxgot it, thanks11:36
pete-woodsvia ConnectionManager11:37
seb128dpm, there to discuss launchpad translations (again)?12:06
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jgdxpete-woods, did the silo build fail?12:39
zzarrcan I forward declare an enum?12:42
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cybrNautdoes the ubuntuphone come rooted?12:54
cybrNauti don't find mention of this on ubuntu.com.. perhaps it's well buried12:54
Tm_TcybrNaut: you can manually set the root to be writable12:55
Tm_Tbut no, they're not writable OOTB12:56
Tm_Tyou do have root rights from the get-go anyway12:56
cybrNautTm_T: i'm confused by what you mean by writable.  So there is no root account?  is hacking needed to get a root account?12:57
Tm_TcybrNaut: the root partition is mounted read-only but you do have sudo (root) rights12:58
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peat-psuwitcybrNaut: You can use sudo, like desktop Ubuntu system.12:58
peat-psuwitcybrNaut: Your screen passcode will also be your password for sudo.12:59
cybrNautokay, good, that was main question.  so users get full control without needing to hack or break warranties, right?12:59
cybrNautwith sudo, one could make the root partition writable, so the maker doesn't seem to really be nannying users13:00
cybrNautAndroid users discover shitty apps like Facebook polluting their phone, and then they are blocked from removing them13:04
cybrNautthen hacking, breaking the warranty is necessary to remove facebook from the phone13:05
cybrNauti find this unacceptable13:05
lotuspsychjecybrNaut: +113:05
dobeycybrNaut: you don't need root to remove apps from the ubuntu phone.13:14
cybrNautthe ubuntu phone docs say that ubuntu gives more freedom to their partners than google does with Android.  That's scares me, because google gives too much freedom to the vendors - the vendors abuse the freedom by delivering a jailed product13:16
cybrNautvendor freedom works against consumer freedom13:16
cybrNautdobey: that sounds somewhat bizarre, because couldn't a user with unprivileged access remove something important?13:17
hectortropehello guys how can I install ubuntu in android?13:17
dobeycybrNaut: there is only one user on the phone platform at the moment. and no, core system components can't be removed. facebook app isn't a core system component though13:19
dobeyhectortrope: if you mean the "ubuntu 4 android" thing, you can't13:19
dobeycybrNaut: making the root partition writable and installing or removing debs is a generally bad idea. the only things which are installed on the readonly partition though, are pretty much only debs which are from the ubuntu archive. most all of the actual apps and scopes on the phone are either click packages, or do not exist on the phone (some scopes only exist remotely on a server)13:24
kenvandinejgdx, your ~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1470779 branch no longer merges cleanly with trunk, can you fix it please?13:25
jgdxkenvandine, yup13:26
kenvandinejgdx, thx13:26
lotuspsychje!devices | hectortrope13:26
ubot5hectortrope: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices13:26
kenvandinejgdx, and thanks for testing 22 and 3113:26
jgdxnp13:27
hectortropedobey: no on my phone wan't to install os13:27
hectortropelotuspsychje:  i have different phone than in list13:27
dobeyhectortrope: then you will need to port an image to your phone if it has not already been done13:29
dednickseb128: does the phone have tpo be in a specific state for the AP tests to pass?13:29
jgdxkenvandine, that was the worst merge attempt I've ever seen.13:30
jgdxyou're drunk merge13:30
seb128dednick, shouldn't, why?13:30
dednickseb128: got 28 failures13:30
kenvandinejgdx, ?13:30
seb128dednick, on which component?13:30
jgdxkenvandine, bzr did weird things. :)13:30
lotuspsychjehectortrope: you could try existing projects @ XDA forums, maybe someone ported it?13:31
hectortropeNo one did13:32
hectortropeif I want to do how can I13:32
hectortropecelkon ar 40 is my phone13:33
lotuspsychjehectortrope: read the porting guide :p13:33
hectortropewhere is it?13:33
hectortropesend me link13:33
dednickseb128: hm. there were a bunch, but can't find the results now. let me run them again...13:33
lotuspsychjehectortrope: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/13:34
dednicksigh... you know, i really wish autopilot would output pass/fail results as it processed them.13:37
balloonszyga, ping13:38
zygaballoons: hey13:40
zygaballoons: ho can I help you :-)13:40
zygaho13:40
zygahow13:40
* zyga needs a new kb13:40
zygasigh13:40
balloonszyga, howdy. I'm curious about plainbox releasing on the desktop? I hear rumors of a qml desktop client?13:40
zygaballoons: ha, I was just working on the last bit, we need to upload a package for one qml module13:41
zygaballoons: and we're ready13:41
zygaballoons: can you help us with that?13:41
zygaballoons: (and the new version is infinitely better than the old one)13:41
zygaballoons: (with tons of fixes and new features)13:41
balloonszyga, uploading a package into the archive? I don't have magic powers for that one. But I'm sure we both know some folks who do13:42
kenvandinejgdx, thx, silo 49 is building now13:42
zygaballoons: yep, we want to apply for per-package upload rights13:42
zygaballoons: to keep the stack fresh at all times (apps, libs, tests)13:42
zygaballoons: the sync from debian cannot cover bits that depend on sdk components)13:43
balloonsahh right13:43
zygaspineau: balloons just asked about the desktop version of checkbox :)13:43
zygaspineau: the one we're working on packaging now13:43
zygaballoons: so why are you interested, do you want to look at using it?13:43
seb128renatu, hey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1364452 ... what channel do you use? where in settings? my contact settings only have "import from google/sim" and no numbers13:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1364452 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "People's own phone number isn't where they expect to find it" [High,Triaged]13:44
ogra_seb128, i want it on a sticker at the back of the phone please :P13:46
pete-woodsjgdx: failed on wily for strange reasons about python..13:46
seb128ogra_, :-)13:46
ogra_:)13:46
zygaspineau: ok, let me upload my package13:47
zygaspineau: without git, just the raw files13:47
hectortropethanks lotuspsychje13:48
spineauzyga: where?13:48
zygaspineau: btw, I noticed that the QChartGallery.* files are present13:48
zygaspineau: they are more of a demo than real package13:48
zygaspineau: perhaps we can remove them?13:48
renatuseb128, if you sim card export the numbers it will appear on the top of the list13:50
spineauzyga: QChart.* instead of QChart9 in the .pro file should be enough13:50
renatuseb128, some sim cards does not export the numbers13:50
spineauzyga: I meant QChart.* instead of QChart*13:51
seb128renatu, I guess it doesn't then, is there a bug about SIMs that don't?13:51
renatuseb128, what do you mean?13:51
seb128renatu, well, seems my cards don't export the numbers, since they are not displayed there ... is there a known bug about not being able to see the number in this case?13:52
spineauzyga: that's also mean an update the the pull request we sent upstream13:52
zygaspineau: let's see13:54
zygaspineau: yep13:54
renatuseb128, yeah maybe we should display a messaging saying that no phone number available.13:54
renatukemmko, ^^13:55
kemmkorenatu:  pong13:55
renatukemmko, about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/136445213:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1364452 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "People's own phone number isn't where they expect to find it" [High,Triaged]13:56
kemmkorenatu:  yes?13:56
renatukeithzg, seb128 got confuse because his sim card does not export the number and he did not find anything on address-book-app settings page13:56
renatukemmko, ^^13:57
renatukemmko, What I did is. If the sime export the number I show the number on the list otherwise nothing is displayed13:57
kemmkorenatu:  on what list?13:58
renatukemmko, "address-book-app" settings13:58
commander_ hello i am packing a Qt webkit based application am confused what should i put as dependencies my app executable ldd output is here in pastebin http://pastebin.com/mfgdrEtz13:58
kemmkorenatu:  ok, that sounds plausible13:58
kemmkorenatu:  It is described in the telephony doc13:59
renatukemmko, do you have the link?14:01
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dednickseb128: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11887966/14:19
dednickseb128: oh, it looks like it's actually autopilot failing14:23
seb128jgdx, kenvandine: ^ do you know about those issues?14:24
seb128dednick, yeah, could be framework flackyness...14:24
dednickseb128: testing individually seems to work14:24
jgdxseb128, some of them are known14:24
jgdxkeyboard not on screen is bug 146802914:25
ubot5bug 1468029 in Canonical System Image "focus issues breaking autopilot tests entering text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146802914:25
jgdxyeah, most of those seems keyboard related14:25
kenvandineseb128, yes... there are multiple issues in that area14:26
kenvandinethe initial bug is  a mir bug, fixed in 0.1514:26
kenvandinebut14:26
kenvandinewith the change to autopilot using the osk now, should be a good thing14:27
kenvandinebut that had another issue :)14:27
kenvandineunity8 detects the fake keyboard added and suppresses the osk14:27
kenvandineit's being worked on14:28
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kenvandineElleo, any ideas about this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11888168/15:10
kenvandinedeleting /home/phablet/.presage.bak fixes it15:11
Elleokenvandine: ah, yeah; that happens if autopilot died without cleaning up15:11
kenvandinebut i've hit it twice this morning15:11
kenvandineah15:11
kenvandineok15:11
kenvandineyay for more flakyness15:11
Elleokenvandine: should really make that a bit more tolerant15:11
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sauraedronhi , need help following this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/15:43
sauraedronwhen i type fastboot devices the device doesnt show up15:43
Isotop7is arale otg-capable?15:43
Isotop7and furthermore: is ut?15:43
Isotop7sauraedron: which device do you have? do you rebooted into the bootloader?15:44
pmcgowanIsotop7, client mode no15:44
sauraedronits yureka(you probably wont know)15:44
sauraedroni went into fastboot mode still it wont show15:44
Isotop7sauraedron: do you use an usb3 port? sometimes connection fails because of these simple things...15:45
sauraedronah no15:45
sauraedronmy laptop doesnt have usb3 port15:46
sauraedronIsotop7, is it not possible without usb3 port ?15:46
Isotop7pmcgowan: so im not able to hook up a keyboard via otg...daaaamn :D15:46
Isotop7sauraedron: no no..it is possible without :D it often failed for me on usb3 ports, but worked on usb2. did you try another port? what does "lsusb" on the command line show?15:47
pmcgowanIsotop7, that should work15:47
pmcgowanthats host mode15:47
pmcgowannot sure its automatic today15:48
Isotop7pmcgowan: for gods sake...i need to revise that :D that sounds good! thank you :)15:48
sauraedronIsotop7, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11888344/15:48
sauraedronit should be line 9 if i am not wrong15:49
sauraedroni will try another port :D15:49
Isotop7sauraedron: well it should at least give a description...adb works?15:50
sauraedronyeah adb works15:50
Isotop7can you do a lsusb of adb mode?15:50
Isotop7i mean when you are connected via adb15:50
seb128dednick, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-settings-components-team/ubuntu-settings-components/trunk/revision/75.2.23 ... do you have an example of "colorizing framed theme icons"?15:51
sauraedronIsotop7, Bus 002 Device 013: ID 05c6:9039 Qualcomm, Inc.15:51
Isotop7sauraedron: mh...troubleshooting fastboot mode is not my thing...did you run fastboot devices via sudo? did you install all adb drivers?15:53
Isotop7sauraedron: did you enter the bootloader via adb reboot-bootloader?15:54
dednickseb128: um. let me try remember :/15:54
sauraedronIsotop7, yeah i did sudo .. but still wont work, as for "all adb drivers" i followed the guideline there15:54
sauraedronor is there other way to install all adb drivers?15:54
Isotop7sauraedron: if you followed the guide and installed phablet-tools everything should be good to go...15:55
sauraedroni tried entering boot loader both ways15:55
sauraedronIsotop7, do you know anyplace where i can get help ?15:56
dednickseb128: message notifications in the indicators icons are framed15:56
dednickand i'm guessing the transfer ones are as well15:57
seb128dednick, "framed" = ubuntushaped?15:57
dednickseb128: ya15:57
Isotop7sauraedron: well i guess here...sorry that i cant assisst more...and your sure fastboot mode is activated? on mako it shows a label.15:57
seb128dednick, but why just not using an image in an ubuntushape?15:57
dednickseb128: because you can't colorize an image15:57
seb128dednick, "colorize"?15:57
dednickseb128: key15:57
sauraedronIsotop7, sorry but what is mako? on my phone it shows fastboot mode15:58
ahoneybunmariogrip: you should hope into #sailfishos-porters I'm sure they could use help with the ofono problems15:58
seb128dednick, what is the ShaderEffectSource for?15:58
Isotop7sauraedron: mako = lg nexus 4. you could try adding a udev rule for the id of your phone in adb mode!15:58
seb128dednick, sorry if the questions are stupid, it just feels like that code could be simpler :-)15:58
seb128dednick, also the note refers to an uitk fixed bug, I wonder if those tricks are still needed with the new ubuntushape component15:59
sauraedronIsotop7, already did that15:59
dednickseb128: the code is actually from u8 i think.15:59
dednickseb128: it's so that we can use an icon with ubuntushape15:59
dednicki think15:59
Isotop7sauraedron: like here (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV)?16:00
sauraedronIsotop7, is there other way to install ubuntu touch, like using a image16:00
sauraedronIsotop7, yeah16:00
dednickseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/108959516:01
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1089595 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[shape] UbuntuShape should shape more general Item-based components" [Wishlist,Fix released]16:01
dednickseb128: i think it's been fixed16:01
seb128dednick, right, that's the fixed bug I was refering to16:01
dednickseb128: yes, so it can probably be removed now, which i guess your question was :)16:01
seb128dednick, right16:01
Isotop7sauraedron: your device is not officially supported so you must have built your own image, am i right?16:01
seb128dednick, why was the ShaderEffectSource needed for, do you remember?16:02
sauraedronIsotop7, :D, no how do i build one ?16:02
dednickseb128: oh. it's not fixed.16:02
sauraedroni thought installing was using the channesl given16:02
dednickseb128: it's actually a "wont fix" because there is a set way to do it. ie. using a shadereffect16:03
mariogripahoneybun: Yeah, i need to find out how to fix it16:03
ogra_sauraedron, that only works for devices where the drivers have been ported16:03
dednickseb128: see the last comment in bug16:03
sauraedronogra_, you mean the channels stuff ?16:03
dednickseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/108959516:03
ahoneybunmariogrip: no one will fix it if they don't know where the problem is :)16:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1089595 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[shape] UbuntuShape should shape more general Item-based components" [Wishlist,Fix released]16:03
ahoneybunyou all could brainstorm16:03
Isotop7sauraedron: oh boy...first: the ubuntu-device-flash method is not applicable since your device is not supported. second: go here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ or google if someone else has aworking image maybe in xda.16:04
ogra_sauraedron, no, all the drivers that manage your phone hardware16:04
sauraedrondang16:04
mariogripyeah, Unable to open port id /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device]16:04
mariogripogra_ ^ :D16:04
ogra_mariogrip, sorry, no idea what that is16:05
Isotop7sauraedron: imho porting is very difficult...tried my luck on jfltexx and failed miserably...sorry :/16:05
seb128dednick, k16:05
mariogripqmuxd16:05
dednickso sorry, no better way yet :/16:05
sauraedronIsotop7, oh.. :|16:05
sauraedronthanks btw :)16:05
sauraedronboth Isotop7 and ogra_ :)16:05
Isotop7sauraedron: yw!16:05
ogra_yes, porting to a new device is a rather advanced task16:05
mariogrip(the qcom version of cmux)16:05
dednickseb128: you just come across that randomly, or have you seen an issue?16:06
seb128dednick, no worry, I'm back at trying to find a solution to the icon ratio issue in that widget :-)16:06
seb128dednick, ^16:06
dednickah16:06
sauraedronogra_, what knowledge is needed for porting ?16:06
seb128the icons don't fill the shape16:06
mariogripahoneybun: but, the sailfish can call, cannot it?16:06
mariogripif yes, they do not have this issue16:06
dednickseb128: maybe talk to tsdgeos. i think he was working on some aspect issues in u8 recently.16:07
dednick*u8 icons16:07
ogra_sauraedron, well, you need to know the android build for your device pretty well (how it builds, what you need to remove to only keep the driver layer etc) and you need to know a little bot about how ubuntu works, though on that part you can easily get help in this channel16:07
seb128dednick, I tried to set "        sourceFillMode: UbuntuShape.PreserveAspectCrop" but that's not enough16:07
seb128dednick, thanks16:07
Isotop7sauraedron: its far more easy if you get your hands on a working cm tree...the rest is patching/building/testing!16:08
sauraedronIsotop7, the trees are quite large for cm :|16:08
sauraedronwith the speed that i have i will be dead by the time the tree has cloned16:08
mariogripalso, i tried to install core apps on my desktop, but "touch-coreapps" cannot be found.16:09
ahoneybunmariogrip: one call, thats it16:09
tsdgeosseb128: what's the problem?16:09
ahoneybunthen it brakes16:09
Isotop7sauraedron: :D i understand that...thats why i rent a server with a 1gbit connection...but believe me: downloading speed of the tree is the smallest amount of frustration :D16:10
mariogripahoneybun: Then this issue is probobly not applying to them, without mux the rild cannot connect to the radio (as what i understand of it)16:10
ahoneybunmaybe16:10
ahoneybunbut still does not hurt to talk to another project16:10
ahoneybunworking on the same device, same QML language16:10
ahoneybunboth with ofono16:11
sauraedronIsotop7, do you have cm tree ?16:11
Isotop7sauraedron: but fair enough, my hacking/patching/bulding skills are rather poor, easier said not existent :D16:11
sauraedron:D how big is it ?16:11
mariogripahoneybun: yeah16:11
Isotop7sauraedron: i used to have it for jfltexx. just look in xda...you'll find a tree for your device...then read the porting guide and try it out!16:12
sauraedronah okay , :)16:12
Isotop7sauraedron: i dont know exactly but i guess approx 1,2 gb with dependencies i guess?16:12
Isotop7sauraedron: i mean base tree...while building is used like 20 gig of space...16:13
sauraedroni thought it was close to 15GB. .?16:13
sauraedronf*** 20 gig :(16:14
Isotop7sauraedron: i could test it if you want to know it exactly?16:14
sauraedronIsotop7, thats fine.. is there any other way to get source code where in i could pause ?16:15
Isotop7sauraedron: sorry...i dont understand your question.16:15
sauraedronhow did you get your source code ?16:15
sauraedrongit right ?16:16
Isotop7yes16:16
sauraedronlike is there a zip file available or something else..16:17
sauraedronone cannot pause git clone right ?16:18
sauraedronor is it possible ?16:18
Isotop7you can download the tree in a zip file yes16:20
sauraedronIsotop7, where ?16:20
Isotop7im not sure...think if you pause it, the git cache is deleted16:20
Isotop7sauraedron: http://imgur.com/c34lG2D16:22
Isotop7sauraedron: its the same for each repo...16:22
sauraedronhmm but i think it wont resume16:23
sauraedrontried it earlier may be a year or two  ago16:23
mariogripahoneybun: what if OnePlus two (4gb ram, snapdragon 810, 100+GB memory, usb type c and hdml) + Ubuntu touch + convergence :D16:24
ahoneybunoh boy lol16:25
ahoneybun100+ memory?16:25
mariogripjup16:25
mariogripthey said more than the oneplus one black (64GB) so i assume 128GB16:26
Isotop7well...if the system itself is still laggy and buggy it doesnt matter if you run it on asupercomputer :D16:26
Isotop7sauraedron: me neither!16:26
sauraedronmay be shallow clone should do16:26
mariogripahoneybun: I will atleast try my best to get it working with ubuntu touch as fast as i can, only limitation i have is buying the device16:28
ahoneybunyea16:28
ahoneybununder 450 they said16:28
Isotop7i would recommend using a rent server or something like that :D16:29
mariogripunder 450, that's awesome!16:29
ahoneybunI saw the CEO send that out16:36
mariogripcool16:37
sauraedronIsotop7, thanks a lot and gn :)16:39
ahoneybunmariogrip: once you get the OPO working I'm sure no one will have problems helping you get the OP2/OPT16:41
seb128kemmko, hey, on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1396615 should it be "Phone" or "PHONE"?16:42
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1396615 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "[phone-app] The word "Keypad" still shows in header" [Low,New]16:42
kemmkoseb128:  It should be "phone"16:45
seb128kemmko, without a cap for the P?16:46
kemmkoseb128:  I mean "Phone"16:46
seb128k16:46
seb128kemmko, thanks :-)16:46
kemmkoseb128:  no problem16:46
mariogripahoneybun: Yeah16:50
mariogripahoneybun: That is one if the reason im setting up the device status page16:51
Tm_TI see new OTA downloading, exciting times16:51
ahoneybunthe pages are pretty mariogrip16:54
mariogripahoneybun: Angular + bootstrap :D16:54
mariogrip+ nodejs16:54
ahoneybundon't know about Angular16:55
ahoneybunI kinda know bootstrap16:55
* ahoneybun watches Robocop 201516:55
mariogripanguar is pretty awesome! angular.io16:55
mariogrip(https://angularjs.org/)16:56
ahoneybunjavascript :)16:56
mariogripJup16:56
GAM002does ubuntu support any tablet?16:56
GAM002or does it have models which support like smart phones?16:56
ahoneybunNexus 7 and 1016:57
GAM002only those two tablets support ubuntu?16:57
ahoneybunhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices16:58
GAM002i am planning on testing how ubuntu works so wondering if it support any very cheap tabs or phones16:58
GAM002tabs no phones16:58
ahoneybunthe Nexus 7 is a great tablet16:59
GAM002too costly17:00
GAM002thanks though17:00
GAM002for the info17:00
ahoneybunmariogrip: OnePlus just tweeted about their "2016 Flagship killer"17:11
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mariogripahoneybun: 2016?17:21
ahoneybunthats what the post said17:21
mariogripoh, okay. just saw it17:22
mariogripcool17:22
Isotop7rc channel is for official otas on arale?17:29
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alin_anyone interested in a ubuntu mx4 invite pm me in the next 15 min17:34
dobeyIsotop77: rc-proposed is for proposed updates. official OTA update releases are on the stable channel18:09
mariogripahoneybun: How does it look now? https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/#/bacon18:09
ahoneybunvery cool mariogrip18:10
mariogripThanks :D18:10
ahoneybun:D18:10
ahoneybunspelled Development wrong XD18:10
mariogriphehehe, sorry :P18:11
ahoneybunand developer18:11
ahoneybunlol18:11
ahoneybunsorry18:11
mariogripthere is probably lots of spelling error there yet18:11
ahoneybungetting a great template together I see18:11
mariogripI will correct them before i release, this is just for debugin18:11
Isotop77the defintion of active devices should be plural, i guess :)18:13
Isotop77dobey: thanks :)18:13
mariogripIsotop77: Just for some months i hope :P18:15
Isotop77u need translation help? where are you from? i would guess italy!18:16
mariogripahoneybun: *fixed the spelling error locally*18:16
ahoneybunnice18:16
mariogripIsotop77: Norway :D18:17
mariogripYeah, if you want to18:17
Isotop77well...my norwegian is pretty bad...we rather should call it not existent :D18:18
Isotop77dobey: shouldnt there be a newer release than r2?18:18
mariogriphaha, så du snakker ikke norsk alså :)18:18
dobeyIsotop77: for arale? no18:20
Isotop77dobey: and what is rc then?18:21
mariogripIsotop77: I just saw that "plural" means the opposite of what I thought... xP18:22
dobeyrelease candidate i would image18:22
Isotop77dobey: https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/meizu.en/arale/ there is activity there :O18:22
Isotop77so rc is promoted to stable?18:22
dobeyi guess whatever image in question will be promoted when it is deemed ready, yes18:23
dobeyi guess things go rc-proposed -> rc -> stable18:23
Isotop77okay...so stable is the way to go?18:26
dobeystable is the most stable18:26
dobeyit gets fewer updates, because it is more stable :)18:26
Isotop77lol :D18:27
Isotop77so ill stick with rc-proposed and hope that libqtelegram 2.0 is a block buster and i can finally switch to ut...thank you :)18:27
mariogripI run rc-proposed, and there have only been minor issues.18:28
Isotop77mariogrip: Jeg kan ikke norsk18:28
mariogrip#GoogleTranslate18:28
Isotop77mariogrip: it sounds like wookie in translate18:28
mariogriplol18:29
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Isotop77mariogrip: i also run rc-proposed but i have lagging and telegram loses messages, cant send them or doesnt even show them...18:56
mariogripIsotop77: I had that on stable too with my bq18:56
Isotop77mariogrip: yeah, its obviously a libqtelegram problem...dont know...wish i could really on that :D18:58
mariogripIsotop77: have you tried a ppa of libqtelegram?19:00
mariogripor of telegram?19:01
SturmFlutIt's a problem with both the Ubuntu Telegram client and Telegram itself. I'm using the Ubuntu client and Telegram Web at the same time, Telegram Web also has problems to send messages.19:02
mariogriptry this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily19:02
Isotop77activate read/write i guess?19:03
mariogripmount -o rw,remount /19:03
mariogripppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily19:03
mariogripapt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily *19:04
mariogripapt-get update19:04
mariogripoh, wait, telegram is not in coreapps?19:04
mariogripIsotop77: Yeah as SturmFlut  said, telegram has huge ddos attacks atm, so things might be slow19:07
SturmFlutmariogrip: But it was only communicated that the Asia-Pacific cluster is under attack, and I can chat normally with most people, just in some conversations the message delivery process seems to stall19:08
mariogripoh, okay.19:09
Isotop77most of the time i suffer the reported bugs for example messages dont get send when you have bad network and theres no retry...19:15
Isotop77dont these pkgs get overriden when i install a new base image?19:20
dobeyyeah you probably don't want to install apps from debs19:37
mariogripahoneybun: Updated the page, now with (probably) correct grammer19:48
* mariogrip spelled "grammar".... lol19:48
ahoneybungetting niceer19:48
ahoneybunXD19:48
SturmFlutOh no, all the UbuContest secrets spilled ;) http://ubuntupodcast.org/2015/07/16/s08e19-the-creeping-terror/19:57
SturmFlutBut we are running a day late :(19:57
mariogripahoneybun: How about an subscribe to get updates notification on email (for the device you like, or all of them)? :D19:59
ahoneybunthat would be cool, I'm subscribed to the forum on OP20:00
tathhuUh oh, My E5 have freezed couple of times20:14
tathhuLock-unlock works but can't swipe and it goes straight to whatever was open at the time20:14
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mariogripcwayne: thanks! :D21:47
cwaynemariogrip: no thank you :)22:16
mariogrip:D22:16
cwayneand keep up the good work :)22:19
andygraybealis there a solid tablet or similiar device that i can use ubuntu touch with?  i ultimately want to use a gis app, gps and the camera for roaming my land and identifying landmarks and mapping them22:22
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