[00:16] <Emexican> Mhall119: I will check that out right meow.
[00:18] <Emexican> Heh, I got the same error as ahoneybun... I did not kill ofono. Working on killing that now
[00:29] <Emexican> I can't kill the /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-ofono
[00:32] <ahoneybun> Emexican: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1463574
[00:32] <Emexican> After I run "sudo kill PID#" and run ps aux to check, it is still running
[00:32] <ahoneybun> just has some examples
[00:33] <Emexican> Thanks, I am going to read that. brb
[00:57] <Emexican> The file I am looking for is /var/lib/ofono/*/gprs
[00:59] <Emexican> I still cannot get access to the * portion of that dir. I get permission denied.
[01:00] <Emexican> I am in the process of spinning up a vm to connect to the phone through.
[01:02] <ahoneybun> if you use sudo Emexican it will say cd command not found for me'
[01:02] <ahoneybun> might have to be writable
[01:03] <Emexican> I did try to sudo cd into that dir, and I received the same error as you ahoneybun.
[01:06] <Emexican> After reading this bug, it seems like the APN is set correctly for TmobileUSA. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1360403
[04:29] <mah454> Hello
[04:30] <mah454> How can unlock bootloader in Meizu MX4 ?
[04:57] <mah454> Hello
[04:57] <mah454> I have a problem
[04:57] <mah454> How can unlock meizu mx4 boot loader ?
[04:57] <mah454> I want to install ubuntu touch on it ...
[06:58] <anpok_> tedg: could you take a look, and TA https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/ubuntu-app-launch/mir-release-0.14.0/+merge/262987
[07:04] <seb128> anpok_, that's an empty commit it seems?
[07:05] <anpok_> yes.. we only need to rebuild it in the mir-0.14 silo
[07:07] <seb128> anpok_, why? the commit message could mention it so people like me don't wonder
[07:07] <seb128> like "rebuild for libmirclient abi change"
[07:08] <seb128> or whatever is the reason
[07:08] <seb128> we usually don't rebuild things just because
[07:13] <dholbach> good morning
[07:14] <nhaines> Good morning!
[07:15] <sturmflut2> dholbach: Morning!
[07:15] <dholbach> hey sturmflut2
[07:36] <anpok_> seb128: ok, added more info to the MP commit message
[07:37] <seb128> anpok_, thanks
[07:37] <seb128> anpok_, I approved it, seems obvious I don't think we need to wait for tedg to wake up for that one ;-)
[07:38] <anpok_> thx!
[07:38] <seb128> yw!
[07:38] <anpok_> I expected him to have irc alarm.. and wake up midnight just to TA MPs
[07:40] <seb128> yeah, he should!
[07:40] <seb128> slacker
[07:59] <tsdgeos> seb128: you assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471581 to unity8, but there's no Delete string in there
[07:59] <seb128> tsdgeos, right, it's just using the deprecated uitk listitem widget with its "delete:" action which does that
[08:00] <seb128> tsdgeos, it might be in unity-settings-component though
[08:15] <tsdgeos> seb128: right
[08:19] <seb128> tsdgeos, note that it's more of a design thing, getting ride of the string wouldn't solve the confusion issue
[08:19] <tsdgeos> seb128: sure, it's not getting ride of the string
[08:19] <tsdgeos> it's fixing it
[08:19] <seb128> tsdgeos, well, it would give the red trash icon that other apps have I guess
[08:20] <seb128> but that still has the confusion the user is complaining about
[08:20] <tsdgeos> seb128: the problem with ListItems.Empty is that you can't even change the string afaics
[08:20] <seb128> delete acting on the notification vs the message
[08:20] <tsdgeos> yeah the [x] icon is better for that
[08:20] <tsdgeos> it's more closing than deleting
[08:20] <tsdgeos> so it's like "yeah go away"
[08:22] <seb128> tsdgeos, bug #1449942 is somewhat similar
[08:22] <seb128> or at least adressing one would solve the other
[08:22] <tsdgeos> i guess so yes
[08:23] <seb128> commented on the bug to say that
[08:25] <seb128> dednick, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/ubuntu-settings-components/dpr/+merge/253944 (and maybe some of the other pending mrs on this component)
[08:25] <seb128> mzanetti, doing a landing for u-s-c is still on your todolist?
[08:26] <mzanetti> seb128, yep. actually in half an hour I have an appointment with dednick to train him to be a lander
[08:26] <mzanetti> and those are the branches to start with
[08:26] <seb128> mzanetti, great
[08:26] <seb128> bug #1396058 would be nice to see landing
[08:27] <dednick> seb128: sure
[08:27] <seb128> dednick, thanks
[08:27] <dednick> mzanetti: is there a bug related to that mp?
[08:33] <seb128> shrug
[08:34] <seb128> I hate the "no adb when locked", I screwed a change in unity-settings-component and have a blank screen now, bricked device
[08:34] <seb128> and I can't get in to edit the file
[08:34] <seb128> I guess unity8 fails to start due some syntax error
[08:35] <tsdgeos> seb128: first thing i do is disable that :D
[08:35] <seb128> yeah
[08:35] <seb128> anything I can do now to fix it?
[08:36] <tsdgeos> seb128: reboot into recovery mode?
[08:36] <tsdgeos> i think you can adb when you're there
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Corn Fritters Day! 😃
[08:44] <seb128> doesn't seem to work :-/
[08:46] <seb128> ogra_, ^ do you know if there is any way out?
[08:46] <ogra_> seb128, touch /userdata/.adb_onlock
[08:46] <ogra_> (and reboot)
[08:46] <seb128> ogra_, that's for next time, but now I've a bricked phone
[08:46] <seb128> unity8 fais to load
[08:46] <seb128> so I can't unlock
[08:46] <ogra_> oh, you can do the same from recovery
[08:46] <seb128> so I can't adb
[08:47] <ogra_> it mounts under /data there though
[08:47] <seb128> adb is disabled in recovery no?
[08:47] <ogra_> flash a recovery with adb
[08:47] <seb128> can't adb
[08:47] <ogra_> flash a recovery with adb
[08:47] <ogra_> :P
[08:47] <seb128> I don't understand
[08:48] <seb128> if adb is locked, how can I do something with adb?
[08:48] <ogra_> reboot in bootloader mode ... get the recovery.img with adb inside ... then use fastboot to flash the recovery (or to boot directly from the img)
[08:48] <ogra_> then use adb to mount /data and touch the file
[08:49] <seb128> "bootloader mode"?
[08:49] <ogra_> yeah
[08:49] <seb128> is that the menu you get with up?
[08:49] <seb128> or the recovery or fastboot mode?
[08:49] <ogra_> no, i think it has no menu
[08:49] <ogra_> fastboot mode :)
[08:49] <seb128> k
[08:49] <seb128> thanks
[08:50] <ogra_> its a bit of effort ... but you dont loose your data and can debug at least
[08:50] <seb128> yeah
[08:50] <seb128> thanks
[08:50] <ogra_> is that aralle or krillin ?
[08:50] <ogra_> -l
[08:51] <jgdx> pete-woods, hey, I thought wpa-ep would be disabled in the wizard? :) bug 1475023
[08:52] <ogra_> seb128, if arale: wget http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img ...
[08:52] <seb128> ogra_, it's a bq
[08:52] <ogra_> ah
[08:52] <pete-woods> jgdx: you are, indeed, correct. will have to fix that up
[08:53] <jgdx> pete-woods, I'm syncing hotspot bindings with trunk
[08:53] <pete-woods> jgdx: awesome, thanks
[08:54] <ogra_> seb128, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5/602037#602037 has the links to the respective recovery.img's
[08:54] <seb128> ogra_, danke
[08:54] <ogra_> (we should really have a central wiki page with these three links)
[08:54] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, ^^^
[08:56] <davmor2> ogra_, seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ChannelsToFlash
[08:56] <ogra_> davmor2, hah, well hidden :P
[08:58] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: ignore ogra_ he just likes to stir things up
[08:59] <ogra_> :P
[09:00] <seb128> ogra_, k, I'm in a recovery with adb
[09:00] <seb128> what partition has the standard booted system /usr ?
[09:01] <ogra_> it is spread across two
[09:01] <ogra_> the writable bits are in the userdata partition that recovery mounts as /data
[09:01] <ogra_> readonly is in /system
[09:01] <ogra_> (iirc)
[09:02] <seb128> k, system was not mounted
[09:02] <seb128> is now
[09:02] <seb128> danke ;-)
[09:04] <seb128> wooot, back to a working phone
[09:04] <seb128> ogra_ beers counts += 3
[09:04] <ogra_> :)
[09:09] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, davmor2 maybe a bot to reply instead of ogra_ ?
[09:09] <ogra_> stirbot ?
[09:10] <john-mcaleely> maybe I need to be a bot, when you ping me
[09:10] <john-mcaleely> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5/602037#602037
[09:10] <jgdx> pete-woods, synced. Anything you need from me here?
[09:10] <john-mcaleely> every time
[09:10] <ogra_> stirbot vs johnbot
[09:10] <ogra_> !
[09:10] <jgdx> pete-woods, you said you were working on something preliminary.. :)
[09:11] <pete-woods> jgdx: well I'm hoping to test it out as soon as I can build uss after I pull your changes
[09:11] <john-mcaleely> stirbot vs johnbot deathmatch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Deathmatch
[09:11] <pete-woods> my internet is being particularly crap today, and I'm struggling to pull, though
[09:12]  * davmor2 starts the pool, with Johnbot just ahead on sarcasm
[09:14] <jgdx> pete-woods, okay. btw, we don't want to land this immediately. When there's a silo, we want a call for testing.
[09:14] <jgdx> to get an idea of what carriers block hotspots and if there's something to do about it
[09:14] <jgdx> (I think, but let me check)
[09:15] <pete-woods> jgdx: definitely. I don't want to screw this important stuff up
[09:19] <jgdx> abeato, I thought you confirmed bug 1466095 ?
[09:21] <abeato> jgdx, hmm, not really, I have not checked it
[09:22] <jgdx> abeato, got it. I'll check this on the phone.
[09:24] <abeato> jgdx, however I think this can depend a lot of the operator... it can happen that when you set VoiceUnconditional the operator only changes part of the forwarding settings
[09:26] <pete-woods> jgdx: buikding in silo 46
[09:26] <jgdx> pete-woods, cool, thanks.
[09:26] <pete-woods> jgdx: this should *hopefully* also include the wakelock
[09:27] <pete-woods> though this is the first build I will be able to actually try out if any of this actually works
[09:28] <jgdx> abeato, okay. The UI deals with the situation right now, I just want to make sure that if this is really a bug, that a fix for it won't mess up the ui :)
[09:29] <jgdx> pete-woods, okay, that sounds scary. No local testing possible? :)
[09:29] <abeato> jgdx, ok, anyway I need to look this into more detail, it's been a while
[09:35] <pete-woods> jgdx: yeah, going to test it on my arale, but this is the first build that the silo will prodice
[09:36] <pete-woods> as before it was complaining that the branches were out of date
[10:24] <pete-woods> jgdx: :O it looks like it actually works
[10:24] <pete-woods> at least I have a hotspot showing on my arale with silo 46
[10:24]  * pete-woods checks for the wakelock
[10:26] <pete-woods> hmmm, maybe spoke too soon, seems to have broken on the second press :(
[10:33] <pete-woods> the dbus interface to the system settings appears to be working
[10:33] <pete-woods> must be in the internals of the hotspot enablement
[10:34] <pete-woods> changing the password and toggling made it work again
[10:34] <pete-woods> must be something slightly broken in the internals then
[10:41] <jgdx> pete-woods, second press?
[10:41] <pete-woods> jgdx: as in turning it off and on again
[10:42] <jgdx> pete-woods, how did it break?
[10:43] <pete-woods> jgdx: the hotspot just didn't seem to activate
[10:44] <pete-woods> jgdx: indeed, leaving the thing running and the hotspot has gone off..
[10:44] <pete-woods> obviously further work is required on the back end
[10:45] <pete-woods> jgdx: ohh, have some actual errors now
[10:45] <jgdx> pete-woods, obv. But I remember this working when it was in system settings :p Is there a system connection file for the hotspot?
[10:45] <pete-woods> investigating
[10:45] <pete-woods> jgdx: I'm not blaming you. this must be during my absorption of hte code
[10:45] <jgdx> and what device?
[10:45] <jgdx> blame is good, solves problems
[10:46] <pete-woods> ha!
[10:46] <pete-woods> blame just leads to denial :p
[10:46] <pete-woods> this is on an arale
[10:46] <jgdx> what are the errors?
[10:51] <pete-woods> jgdx: it was the dbus signal for password update that failed to be emitted
[10:52] <pete-woods> back to USS, that is
[10:52] <pete-woods> so it didn't break anything as such
[10:52] <pete-woods> but obviously needs to be fixed
[10:52] <pete-woods> and I know why it broke
[10:53] <jgdx> nice!
[10:54] <davmor2> pete-woods, jgdx: you are both wrong blame is a big stick that QA beat developers with ;)
[10:55] <jgdx> davmor2, i just looked it up and you are actually right
[10:55] <pete-woods> jgdx: sadly this will only fix that signal problem
[10:55] <pete-woods> jgdx: will add some further debugging to indicator-network
[10:55] <pete-woods> to see what's going wrong with the hotspot enablement
[10:59] <jgdx> pete-woods, I'm trying to think of issues that you might hit. I'll install the silo as soon as I'm done testing silo 22
[11:01] <pete-woods> jgdx: it's probably something stupid in there. will see what happens when adding more debug logging
[11:04] <jgdx> pete-woods, you're going to have a couple of wtf moments.
[11:05] <pete-woods> jgdx: probably :) at any rate the NetworkManager config seems to have been generated correctly in /etc/NetworkMangager
[11:05] <jgdx> pete-woods, with autoconnect=true? We rely on that piece of magic
[11:07] <pete-woods> jgdx: will check
[11:09] <pete-woods> jgdx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11887185/
[11:09] <pete-woods> apparently now
[11:09] <pete-woods> not
[11:11] <jgdx> right, that might fumble things up.
[11:15] <zzarr> hello! is it possible to use a C++ enum in QML some how?
[11:15] <pete-woods> jgdx: where would I expect that property to be set?
[11:15] <pete-woods> zzarr: afaik that's what the Q_ENUMS macros are about
[11:16] <zzarr> is there a tutorial showing how to use it?
[11:23] <jgdx> pete-woods, the binding defaults to autoconnect=true.
[11:24] <jgdx> pete-woods, https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/indicator-network/hotspot-management/+merge/264431#diff-line-994
[11:25] <jgdx> pete-woods, does the indicator use libqfono?
[11:26] <pete-woods> jgdx: it uses the same lib as USS, if I remember correctly
[11:26] <pete-woods> yeah, libqofono
[11:27] <jgdx> right
[11:27] <jgdx> we're trying to upgrade to 0.79 in silo 22, and I think I've spotted a regression in the indicator
[11:27]  * jgdx has screenshot
[11:28]  * pete-woods rebuilding silo 46 with logging and simple signal fix
[11:29] <jgdx> pete-woods, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211806335/screenshot20150716_132611547.png
[11:30] <jgdx> or maybe that's intended?
[11:30] <jgdx> I have no network, so the top icon is correct
[11:33] <pete-woods> jgdx: I doubt that ofono can cause that
[11:33] <pete-woods> the icons at the top are reported more or less directly from network manager
[11:34] <pete-woods> but I don't quite trust that code
[11:34] <pete-woods> I've not got over it thoroughly yet
[11:34] <jgdx> pete-woods, but the icon besides [Carrier] [Signal strenght] is just reporting the technology?
[11:35] <jgdx> not whether or not there's a network connection
[11:35] <pete-woods> jgdx: it reports the bearer from ofono
[11:36] <jgdx> got it, thanks
[11:37] <pete-woods> via ConnectionManager
[12:06] <seb128> dpm, there to discuss launchpad translations (again)?
[12:39] <jgdx> pete-woods, did the silo build fail?
[12:42] <zzarr> can I forward declare an enum?
[12:54] <cybrNaut> does the ubuntuphone come rooted?
[12:54] <cybrNaut> i don't find mention of this on ubuntu.com.. perhaps it's well buried
[12:55] <Tm_T> cybrNaut: you can manually set the root to be writable
[12:56] <Tm_T> but no, they're not writable OOTB
[12:56] <Tm_T> you do have root rights from the get-go anyway
[12:57] <cybrNaut> Tm_T: i'm confused by what you mean by writable.  So there is no root account?  is hacking needed to get a root account?
[12:58] <Tm_T> cybrNaut: the root partition is mounted read-only but you do have sudo (root) rights
[12:58] <peat-psuwit> cybrNaut: You can use sudo, like desktop Ubuntu system.
[12:59] <peat-psuwit> cybrNaut: Your screen passcode will also be your password for sudo.
[12:59] <cybrNaut> okay, good, that was main question.  so users get full control without needing to hack or break warranties, right?
[13:00] <cybrNaut> with sudo, one could make the root partition writable, so the maker doesn't seem to really be nannying users
[13:04] <cybrNaut> Android users discover shitty apps like Facebook polluting their phone, and then they are blocked from removing them
[13:05] <cybrNaut> then hacking, breaking the warranty is necessary to remove facebook from the phone
[13:05] <cybrNaut> i find this unacceptable
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> cybrNaut: +1
[13:14] <dobey> cybrNaut: you don't need root to remove apps from the ubuntu phone.
[13:16] <cybrNaut> the ubuntu phone docs say that ubuntu gives more freedom to their partners than google does with Android.  That's scares me, because google gives too much freedom to the vendors - the vendors abuse the freedom by delivering a jailed product
[13:16] <cybrNaut> vendor freedom works against consumer freedom
[13:17] <cybrNaut> dobey: that sounds somewhat bizarre, because couldn't a user with unprivileged access remove something important?
[13:17] <hectortrope> hello guys how can I install ubuntu in android?
[13:19] <dobey> cybrNaut: there is only one user on the phone platform at the moment. and no, core system components can't be removed. facebook app isn't a core system component though
[13:19] <dobey> hectortrope: if you mean the "ubuntu 4 android" thing, you can't
[13:24] <dobey> cybrNaut: making the root partition writable and installing or removing debs is a generally bad idea. the only things which are installed on the readonly partition though, are pretty much only debs which are from the ubuntu archive. most all of the actual apps and scopes on the phone are either click packages, or do not exist on the phone (some scopes only exist remotely on a server)
[13:25] <kenvandine> jgdx, your ~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1470779 branch no longer merges cleanly with trunk, can you fix it please?
[13:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, yup
[13:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> !devices | hectortrope
[13:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, and thanks for testing 22 and 31
[13:27] <jgdx> np
[13:27] <hectortrope> dobey: no on my phone wan't to install os
[13:27] <hectortrope> lotuspsychje:  i have different phone than in list
[13:29] <dobey> hectortrope: then you will need to port an image to your phone if it has not already been done
[13:29] <dednick> seb128: does the phone have tpo be in a specific state for the AP tests to pass?
[13:30] <jgdx> kenvandine, that was the worst merge attempt I've ever seen.
[13:30] <jgdx> you're drunk merge
[13:30] <seb128> dednick, shouldn't, why?
[13:30] <dednick> seb128: got 28 failures
[13:30] <kenvandine> jgdx, ?
[13:30] <seb128> dednick, on which component?
[13:30] <jgdx> kenvandine, bzr did weird things. :)
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> hectortrope: you could try existing projects @ XDA forums, maybe someone ported it?
[13:32] <hectortrope> No one did
[13:32] <hectortrope> if I want to do how can I
[13:33] <hectortrope> celkon ar 40 is my phone
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> hectortrope: read the porting guide :p
[13:33] <hectortrope> where is it?
[13:33] <hectortrope> send me link
[13:33] <dednick> seb128: hm. there were a bunch, but can't find the results now. let me run them again...
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> hectortrope: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[13:37] <dednick> sigh... you know, i really wish autopilot would output pass/fail results as it processed them.
[13:38] <balloons> zyga, ping
[13:40] <zyga> balloons: hey
[13:40] <zyga> balloons: ho can I help you :-)
[13:40] <zyga> ho
[13:40] <zyga> how
[13:40]  * zyga needs a new kb
[13:40] <zyga> sigh
[13:40] <balloons> zyga, howdy. I'm curious about plainbox releasing on the desktop? I hear rumors of a qml desktop client?
[13:41] <zyga> balloons: ha, I was just working on the last bit, we need to upload a package for one qml module
[13:41] <zyga> balloons: and we're ready
[13:41] <zyga> balloons: can you help us with that?
[13:41] <zyga> balloons: (and the new version is infinitely better than the old one)
[13:41] <zyga> balloons: (with tons of fixes and new features)
[13:42] <balloons> zyga, uploading a package into the archive? I don't have magic powers for that one. But I'm sure we both know some folks who do
[13:42] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx, silo 49 is building now
[13:42] <zyga> balloons: yep, we want to apply for per-package upload rights
[13:42] <zyga> balloons: to keep the stack fresh at all times (apps, libs, tests)
[13:43] <zyga> balloons: the sync from debian cannot cover bits that depend on sdk components)
[13:43] <balloons> ahh right
[13:43] <zyga> spineau: balloons just asked about the desktop version of checkbox :)
[13:43] <zyga> spineau: the one we're working on packaging now
[13:43] <zyga> balloons: so why are you interested, do you want to look at using it?
[13:44] <seb128> renatu, hey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1364452 ... what channel do you use? where in settings? my contact settings only have "import from google/sim" and no numbers
[13:46] <ogra_> seb128, i want it on a sticker at the back of the phone please :P
[13:46] <pete-woods> jgdx: failed on wily for strange reasons about python..
[13:46] <seb128> ogra_, :-)
[13:46] <ogra_> :)
[13:47] <zyga> spineau: ok, let me upload my package
[13:47] <zyga> spineau: without git, just the raw files
[13:48] <hectortrope> thanks lotuspsychje
[13:48] <spineau> zyga: where?
[13:48] <zyga> spineau: btw, I noticed that the QChartGallery.* files are present
[13:48] <zyga> spineau: they are more of a demo than real package
[13:48] <zyga> spineau: perhaps we can remove them?
[13:50] <renatu> seb128, if you sim card export the numbers it will appear on the top of the list
[13:50] <spineau> zyga: QChart.* instead of QChart9 in the .pro file should be enough
[13:50] <renatu> seb128, some sim cards does not export the numbers
[13:51] <spineau> zyga: I meant QChart.* instead of QChart*
[13:51] <seb128> renatu, I guess it doesn't then, is there a bug about SIMs that don't?
[13:51] <renatu> seb128, what do you mean?
[13:52] <seb128> renatu, well, seems my cards don't export the numbers, since they are not displayed there ... is there a known bug about not being able to see the number in this case?
[13:52] <spineau> zyga: that's also mean an update the the pull request we sent upstream
[13:54] <zyga> spineau: let's see
[13:54] <zyga> spineau: yep
[13:54] <renatu> seb128, yeah maybe we should display a messaging saying that no phone number available.
[13:55] <renatu> kemmko, ^^
[13:55] <kemmko> renatu:  pong
[13:56] <renatu> kemmko, about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1364452
[13:56] <kemmko> renatu:  yes?
[13:56] <renatu> keithzg, seb128 got confuse because his sim card does not export the number and he did not find anything on address-book-app settings page
[13:57] <renatu> kemmko, ^^
[13:57] <renatu> kemmko, What I did is. If the sime export the number I show the number on the list otherwise nothing is displayed
[13:58] <kemmko> renatu:  on what list?
[13:58] <renatu> kemmko, "address-book-app" settings
[13:58] <commander_>  hello i am packing a Qt webkit based application am confused what should i put as dependencies my app executable ldd output is here in pastebin http://pastebin.com/mfgdrEtz
[13:58] <kemmko> renatu:  ok, that sounds plausible
[13:59] <kemmko> renatu:  It is described in the telephony doc
[14:01] <renatu> kemmko, do you have the link?
[14:19] <dednick> seb128: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11887966/
[14:23] <dednick> seb128: oh, it looks like it's actually autopilot failing
[14:24] <seb128> jgdx, kenvandine: ^ do you know about those issues?
[14:24] <seb128> dednick, yeah, could be framework flackyness...
[14:24] <dednick> seb128: testing individually seems to work
[14:24] <jgdx> seb128, some of them are known
[14:25] <jgdx> keyboard not on screen is bug 1468029
[14:25] <jgdx> yeah, most of those seems keyboard related
[14:26] <kenvandine> seb128, yes... there are multiple issues in that area
[14:26] <kenvandine> the initial bug is  a mir bug, fixed in 0.15
[14:26] <kenvandine> but
[14:27] <kenvandine> with the change to autopilot using the osk now, should be a good thing
[14:27] <kenvandine> but that had another issue :)
[14:27] <kenvandine> unity8 detects the fake keyboard added and suppresses the osk
[14:28] <kenvandine> it's being worked on
[15:10] <kenvandine> Elleo, any ideas about this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11888168/
[15:11] <kenvandine> deleting /home/phablet/.presage.bak fixes it
[15:11] <Elleo> kenvandine: ah, yeah; that happens if autopilot died without cleaning up
[15:11] <kenvandine> but i've hit it twice this morning
[15:11] <kenvandine> ah
[15:11] <kenvandine> ok
[15:11] <kenvandine> yay for more flakyness
[15:11] <Elleo> kenvandine: should really make that a bit more tolerant
[15:43] <sauraedron> hi , need help following this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[15:43] <sauraedron> when i type fastboot devices the device doesnt show up
[15:43] <Isotop7> is arale otg-capable?
[15:43] <Isotop7> and furthermore: is ut?
[15:44] <Isotop7> sauraedron: which device do you have? do you rebooted into the bootloader?
[15:44] <pmcgowan> Isotop7, client mode no
[15:44] <sauraedron> its yureka(you probably wont know)
[15:44] <sauraedron> i went into fastboot mode still it wont show
[15:45] <Isotop7> sauraedron: do you use an usb3 port? sometimes connection fails because of these simple things...
[15:45] <sauraedron> ah no
[15:46] <sauraedron> my laptop doesnt have usb3 port
[15:46] <sauraedron> Isotop7, is it not possible without usb3 port ?
[15:46] <Isotop7> pmcgowan: so im not able to hook up a keyboard via otg...daaaamn :D
[15:47] <Isotop7> sauraedron: no no..it is possible without :D it often failed for me on usb3 ports, but worked on usb2. did you try another port? what does "lsusb" on the command line show?
[15:47] <pmcgowan> Isotop7, that should work
[15:47] <pmcgowan> thats host mode
[15:48] <pmcgowan> not sure its automatic today
[15:48] <Isotop7> pmcgowan: for gods sake...i need to revise that :D that sounds good! thank you :)
[15:48] <sauraedron> Isotop7, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11888344/
[15:49] <sauraedron> it should be line 9 if i am not wrong
[15:49] <sauraedron> i will try another port :D
[15:50] <Isotop7> sauraedron: well it should at least give a description...adb works?
[15:50] <sauraedron> yeah adb works
[15:50] <Isotop7> can you do a lsusb of adb mode?
[15:50] <Isotop7> i mean when you are connected via adb
[15:51] <seb128> dednick, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-settings-components-team/ubuntu-settings-components/trunk/revision/75.2.23 ... do you have an example of "colorizing framed theme icons"?
[15:51] <sauraedron> Isotop7, Bus 002 Device 013: ID 05c6:9039 Qualcomm, Inc.
[15:53] <Isotop7> sauraedron: mh...troubleshooting fastboot mode is not my thing...did you run fastboot devices via sudo? did you install all adb drivers?
[15:54] <Isotop7> sauraedron: did you enter the bootloader via adb reboot-bootloader?
[15:54] <dednick> seb128: um. let me try remember :/
[15:54] <sauraedron> Isotop7, yeah i did sudo .. but still wont work, as for "all adb drivers" i followed the guideline there
[15:54] <sauraedron> or is there other way to install all adb drivers?
[15:55] <Isotop7> sauraedron: if you followed the guide and installed phablet-tools everything should be good to go...
[15:55] <sauraedron> i tried entering boot loader both ways
[15:56] <sauraedron> Isotop7, do you know anyplace where i can get help ?
[15:56] <dednick> seb128: message notifications in the indicators icons are framed
[15:57] <dednick> and i'm guessing the transfer ones are as well
[15:57] <seb128> dednick, "framed" = ubuntushaped?
[15:57] <dednick> seb128: ya
[15:57] <Isotop7> sauraedron: well i guess here...sorry that i cant assisst more...and your sure fastboot mode is activated? on mako it shows a label.
[15:57] <seb128> dednick, but why just not using an image in an ubuntushape?
[15:57] <dednick> seb128: because you can't colorize an image
[15:57] <seb128> dednick, "colorize"?
[15:57] <dednick> seb128: key
[15:58] <sauraedron> Isotop7, sorry but what is mako? on my phone it shows fastboot mode
[15:58] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: you should hope into #sailfishos-porters I'm sure they could use help with the ofono problems
[15:58] <seb128> dednick, what is the ShaderEffectSource for?
[15:58] <Isotop7> sauraedron: mako = lg nexus 4. you could try adding a udev rule for the id of your phone in adb mode!
[15:58] <seb128> dednick, sorry if the questions are stupid, it just feels like that code could be simpler :-)
[15:59] <seb128> dednick, also the note refers to an uitk fixed bug, I wonder if those tricks are still needed with the new ubuntushape component
[15:59] <sauraedron> Isotop7, already did that
[15:59] <dednick> seb128: the code is actually from u8 i think.
[15:59] <dednick> seb128: it's so that we can use an icon with ubuntushape
[15:59] <dednick> i think
[16:00] <Isotop7> sauraedron: like here (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV)?
[16:00] <sauraedron> Isotop7, is there other way to install ubuntu touch, like using a image
[16:00] <sauraedron> Isotop7, yeah
[16:01] <dednick> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1089595
[16:01] <dednick> seb128: i think it's been fixed
[16:01] <seb128> dednick, right, that's the fixed bug I was refering to
[16:01] <dednick> seb128: yes, so it can probably be removed now, which i guess your question was :)
[16:01] <seb128> dednick, right
[16:01] <Isotop7> sauraedron: your device is not officially supported so you must have built your own image, am i right?
[16:02] <seb128> dednick, why was the ShaderEffectSource needed for, do you remember?
[16:02] <sauraedron> Isotop7, :D, no how do i build one ?
[16:02] <dednick> seb128: oh. it's not fixed.
[16:02] <sauraedron> i thought installing was using the channesl given
[16:03] <dednick> seb128: it's actually a "wont fix" because there is a set way to do it. ie. using a shadereffect
[16:03] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Yeah, i need to find out how to fix it
[16:03] <ogra_> sauraedron, that only works for devices where the drivers have been ported
[16:03] <dednick> seb128: see the last comment in bug
[16:03] <sauraedron> ogra_, you mean the channels stuff ?
[16:03] <dednick> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1089595
[16:03] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: no one will fix it if they don't know where the problem is :)
[16:03] <ahoneybun> you all could brainstorm
[16:04] <Isotop7> sauraedron: oh boy...first: the ubuntu-device-flash method is not applicable since your device is not supported. second: go here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ or google if someone else has aworking image maybe in xda.
[16:04] <ogra_> sauraedron, no, all the drivers that manage your phone hardware
[16:04] <sauraedron> dang
[16:04] <mariogrip> yeah, Unable to open port id /dev/smdcntl0, error [19:No such device]
[16:04] <mariogrip> ogra_ ^ :D
[16:05] <ogra_> mariogrip, sorry, no idea what that is
[16:05] <Isotop7> sauraedron: imho porting is very difficult...tried my luck on jfltexx and failed miserably...sorry :/
[16:05] <seb128> dednick, k
[16:05] <mariogrip> qmuxd
[16:05] <dednick> so sorry, no better way yet :/
[16:05] <sauraedron> Isotop7, oh.. :|
[16:05] <sauraedron> thanks btw :)
[16:05] <sauraedron> both Isotop7 and ogra_ :)
[16:05] <Isotop7> sauraedron: yw!
[16:05] <ogra_> yes, porting to a new device is a rather advanced task
[16:05] <mariogrip> (the qcom version of cmux)
[16:06] <dednick> seb128: you just come across that randomly, or have you seen an issue?
[16:06] <seb128> dednick, no worry, I'm back at trying to find a solution to the icon ratio issue in that widget :-)
[16:06] <seb128> dednick, ^
[16:06] <dednick> ah
[16:06] <sauraedron> ogra_, what knowledge is needed for porting ?
[16:06] <seb128> the icons don't fill the shape
[16:06] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: but, the sailfish can call, cannot it?
[16:06] <mariogrip> if yes, they do not have this issue
[16:07] <dednick> seb128: maybe talk to tsdgeos. i think he was working on some aspect issues in u8 recently.
[16:07] <dednick> *u8 icons
[16:07] <ogra_> sauraedron, well, you need to know the android build for your device pretty well (how it builds, what you need to remove to only keep the driver layer etc) and you need to know a little bot about how ubuntu works, though on that part you can easily get help in this channel
[16:07] <seb128> dednick, I tried to set "        sourceFillMode: UbuntuShape.PreserveAspectCrop" but that's not enough
[16:07] <seb128> dednick, thanks
[16:08] <Isotop7> sauraedron: its far more easy if you get your hands on a working cm tree...the rest is patching/building/testing!
[16:08] <sauraedron> Isotop7, the trees are quite large for cm :|
[16:08] <sauraedron> with the speed that i have i will be dead by the time the tree has cloned
[16:09] <mariogrip> also, i tried to install core apps on my desktop, but "touch-coreapps" cannot be found.
[16:09] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: one call, thats it
[16:09] <tsdgeos> seb128: what's the problem?
[16:09] <ahoneybun> then it brakes
[16:10] <Isotop7> sauraedron: :D i understand that...thats why i rent a server with a 1gbit connection...but believe me: downloading speed of the tree is the smallest amount of frustration :D
[16:10] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Then this issue is probobly not applying to them, without mux the rild cannot connect to the radio (as what i understand of it)
[16:10] <ahoneybun> maybe
[16:10] <ahoneybun> but still does not hurt to talk to another project
[16:10] <ahoneybun> working on the same device, same QML language
[16:11] <ahoneybun> both with ofono
[16:11] <sauraedron> Isotop7, do you have cm tree ?
[16:11] <Isotop7> sauraedron: but fair enough, my hacking/patching/bulding skills are rather poor, easier said not existent :D
[16:11] <sauraedron> :D how big is it ?
[16:11] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: yeah
[16:12] <Isotop7> sauraedron: i used to have it for jfltexx. just look in xda...you'll find a tree for your device...then read the porting guide and try it out!
[16:12] <sauraedron> ah okay , :)
[16:12] <Isotop7> sauraedron: i dont know exactly but i guess approx 1,2 gb with dependencies i guess?
[16:13] <Isotop7> sauraedron: i mean base tree...while building is used like 20 gig of space...
[16:13] <sauraedron> i thought it was close to 15GB. .?
[16:14] <sauraedron> f*** 20 gig :(
[16:14] <Isotop7> sauraedron: i could test it if you want to know it exactly?
[16:15] <sauraedron> Isotop7, thats fine.. is there any other way to get source code where in i could pause ?
[16:15] <Isotop7> sauraedron: sorry...i dont understand your question.
[16:15] <sauraedron> how did you get your source code ?
[16:16] <sauraedron> git right ?
[16:16] <Isotop7> yes
[16:17] <sauraedron> like is there a zip file available or something else..
[16:18] <sauraedron> one cannot pause git clone right ?
[16:18] <sauraedron> or is it possible ?
[16:20] <Isotop7> you can download the tree in a zip file yes
[16:20] <sauraedron> Isotop7, where ?
[16:20] <Isotop7> im not sure...think if you pause it, the git cache is deleted
[16:22] <Isotop7> sauraedron: http://imgur.com/c34lG2D
[16:22] <Isotop7> sauraedron: its the same for each repo...
[16:23] <sauraedron> hmm but i think it wont resume
[16:23] <sauraedron> tried it earlier may be a year or two  ago
[16:24] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: what if OnePlus two (4gb ram, snapdragon 810, 100+GB memory, usb type c and hdml) + Ubuntu touch + convergence :D
[16:25] <ahoneybun> oh boy lol
[16:25] <ahoneybun> 100+ memory?
[16:25] <mariogrip> jup
[16:26] <mariogrip> they said more than the oneplus one black (64GB) so i assume 128GB
[16:26] <Isotop7> well...if the system itself is still laggy and buggy it doesnt matter if you run it on asupercomputer :D
[16:26] <Isotop7> sauraedron: me neither!
[16:26] <sauraedron> may be shallow clone should do
[16:28] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: I will atleast try my best to get it working with ubuntu touch as fast as i can, only limitation i have is buying the device
[16:28] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:28] <ahoneybun> under 450 they said
[16:29] <Isotop7> i would recommend using a rent server or something like that :D
[16:29] <mariogrip> under 450, that's awesome!
[16:36] <ahoneybun> I saw the CEO send that out
[16:37] <mariogrip> cool
[16:39] <sauraedron> Isotop7, thanks a lot and gn :)
[16:41] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: once you get the OPO working I'm sure no one will have problems helping you get the OP2/OPT
[16:42] <seb128> kemmko, hey, on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1396615 should it be "Phone" or "PHONE"?
[16:45] <kemmko> seb128:  It should be "phone"
[16:46] <seb128> kemmko, without a cap for the P?
[16:46] <kemmko> seb128:  I mean "Phone"
[16:46] <seb128> k
[16:46] <seb128> kemmko, thanks :-)
[16:46] <kemmko> seb128:  no problem
[16:50] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Yeah
[16:51] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: That is one if the reason im setting up the device status page
[16:51] <Tm_T> I see new OTA downloading, exciting times
[16:54] <ahoneybun> the pages are pretty mariogrip
[16:54] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Angular + bootstrap :D
[16:54] <mariogrip> + nodejs
[16:55] <ahoneybun> don't know about Angular
[16:55] <ahoneybun> I kinda know bootstrap
[16:55]  * ahoneybun watches Robocop 2015
[16:55] <mariogrip> anguar is pretty awesome! angular.io
[16:56] <mariogrip> (https://angularjs.org/)
[16:56] <ahoneybun> javascript :)
[16:56] <mariogrip> Jup
[16:56] <GAM002> does ubuntu support any tablet?
[16:56] <GAM002> or does it have models which support like smart phones?
[16:57] <ahoneybun> Nexus 7 and 10
[16:57] <GAM002> only those two tablets support ubuntu?
[16:58] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[16:58] <GAM002> i am planning on testing how ubuntu works so wondering if it support any very cheap tabs or phones
[16:58] <GAM002> tabs no phones
[16:59] <ahoneybun> the Nexus 7 is a great tablet
[17:00] <GAM002> too costly
[17:00] <GAM002> thanks though
[17:00] <GAM002> for the info
[17:11] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: OnePlus just tweeted about their "2016 Flagship killer"
[17:21] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: 2016?
[17:21] <ahoneybun> thats what the post said
[17:22] <mariogrip> oh, okay. just saw it
[17:22] <mariogrip> cool
[17:29] <Isotop7> rc channel is for official otas on arale?
[17:34] <alin_> anyone interested in a ubuntu mx4 invite pm me in the next 15 min
[18:09] <dobey> Isotop77: rc-proposed is for proposed updates. official OTA update releases are on the stable channel
[18:09] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: How does it look now? https://ubports-devices.herokuapp.com/#/bacon
[18:10] <ahoneybun> very cool mariogrip
[18:10] <mariogrip> Thanks :D
[18:10] <ahoneybun> :D
[18:10] <ahoneybun> spelled Development wrong XD
[18:11] <mariogrip> hehehe, sorry :P
[18:11] <ahoneybun> and developer
[18:11] <ahoneybun> lol
[18:11] <ahoneybun> sorry
[18:11] <mariogrip> there is probably lots of spelling error there yet
[18:11] <ahoneybun> getting a great template together I see
[18:11] <mariogrip> I will correct them before i release, this is just for debugin
[18:13] <Isotop77> the defintion of active devices should be plural, i guess :)
[18:13] <Isotop77> dobey: thanks :)
[18:15] <mariogrip> Isotop77: Just for some months i hope :P
[18:16] <Isotop77> u need translation help? where are you from? i would guess italy!
[18:16] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: *fixed the spelling error locally*
[18:16] <ahoneybun> nice
[18:17] <mariogrip> Isotop77: Norway :D
[18:17] <mariogrip> Yeah, if you want to
[18:18] <Isotop77> well...my norwegian is pretty bad...we rather should call it not existent :D
[18:18] <Isotop77> dobey: shouldnt there be a newer release than r2?
[18:18] <mariogrip> haha, så du snakker ikke norsk alså :)
[18:20] <dobey> Isotop77: for arale? no
[18:21] <Isotop77> dobey: and what is rc then?
[18:22] <mariogrip> Isotop77: I just saw that "plural" means the opposite of what I thought... xP
[18:22] <dobey> release candidate i would image
[18:22] <Isotop77> dobey: https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/meizu.en/arale/ there is activity there :O
[18:22] <Isotop77> so rc is promoted to stable?
[18:23] <dobey> i guess whatever image in question will be promoted when it is deemed ready, yes
[18:23] <dobey> i guess things go rc-proposed -> rc -> stable
[18:26] <Isotop77> okay...so stable is the way to go?
[18:26] <dobey> stable is the most stable
[18:26] <dobey> it gets fewer updates, because it is more stable :)
[18:27] <Isotop77> lol :D
[18:27] <Isotop77> so ill stick with rc-proposed and hope that libqtelegram 2.0 is a block buster and i can finally switch to ut...thank you :)
[18:28] <mariogrip> I run rc-proposed, and there have only been minor issues.
[18:28] <Isotop77> mariogrip: Jeg kan ikke norsk
[18:28] <mariogrip> #GoogleTranslate
[18:28] <Isotop77> mariogrip: it sounds like wookie in translate
[18:29] <mariogrip> lol
[18:56] <Isotop77> mariogrip: i also run rc-proposed but i have lagging and telegram loses messages, cant send them or doesnt even show them...
[18:56] <mariogrip> Isotop77: I had that on stable too with my bq
[18:58] <Isotop77> mariogrip: yeah, its obviously a libqtelegram problem...dont know...wish i could really on that :D
[19:00] <mariogrip> Isotop77: have you tried a ppa of libqtelegram?
[19:01] <mariogrip> or of telegram?
[19:02] <SturmFlut> It's a problem with both the Ubuntu Telegram client and Telegram itself. I'm using the Ubuntu client and Telegram Web at the same time, Telegram Web also has problems to send messages.
[19:02] <mariogrip> try this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[19:03] <Isotop77> activate read/write i guess?
[19:03] <mariogrip> mount -o rw,remount /
[19:03] <mariogrip> ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily
[19:04] <mariogrip> apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily *
[19:04] <mariogrip> apt-get update
[19:04] <mariogrip> oh, wait, telegram is not in coreapps?
[19:07] <mariogrip> Isotop77: Yeah as SturmFlut  said, telegram has huge ddos attacks atm, so things might be slow
[19:08] <SturmFlut> mariogrip: But it was only communicated that the Asia-Pacific cluster is under attack, and I can chat normally with most people, just in some conversations the message delivery process seems to stall
[19:09] <mariogrip> oh, okay.
[19:15] <Isotop77> most of the time i suffer the reported bugs for example messages dont get send when you have bad network and theres no retry...
[19:20] <Isotop77> dont these pkgs get overriden when i install a new base image?
[19:37] <dobey> yeah you probably don't want to install apps from debs
[19:48] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Updated the page, now with (probably) correct grammer
[19:48]  * mariogrip spelled "grammar".... lol
[19:48] <ahoneybun> getting niceer
[19:48] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:57] <SturmFlut> Oh no, all the UbuContest secrets spilled ;) http://ubuntupodcast.org/2015/07/16/s08e19-the-creeping-terror/
[19:57] <SturmFlut> But we are running a day late :(
[19:59] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: How about an subscribe to get updates notification on email (for the device you like, or all of them)? :D
[20:00] <ahoneybun> that would be cool, I'm subscribed to the forum on OP
[20:14] <tathhu> Uh oh, My E5 have freezed couple of times
[20:14] <tathhu> Lock-unlock works but can't swipe and it goes straight to whatever was open at the time
[21:47] <mariogrip> cwayne: thanks! :D
[22:16] <cwayne> mariogrip: no thank you :)
[22:16] <mariogrip> :D
[22:19] <cwayne> and keep up the good work :)
[22:22] <andygraybeal> is there a solid tablet or similiar device that i can use ubuntu touch with?  i ultimately want to use a gis app, gps and the camera for roaming my land and identifying landmarks and mapping them