[04:44] <mappps> hi all
[04:44] <mappps> anyone buy anything on the amazon prime week
[04:54] <zmoylan-pi> saw a few people complain they didn't see anything worth buying
[04:54] <mappps> yea i saw some weird stuff
[04:54] <mappps> my little pony pogo stick or somethin
[04:54] <mappps> lol
[04:55] <zmoylan-pi> has it reached the pointt that the good stuff is targetted by bots so winners can profit by their resale?  online sales version of ticket scalping
[05:38] <mappps> wat do you think of that intel compute ubuntu stick zmoylan-1i ?
[05:53] <zmoylan-pi> it's interesting but it's a lower spec than the windows version.
[05:53] <zmoylan-pi> i'd rather pay more and get the windows version and install ubuntu onto that
[05:53] <mappps> hmm is there any reason that wouldnt be possible
[05:54] <mappps> and why do lower spec > just because it can because ubuntu requirs less than win?
[05:59] <knightwise>  morning peeps
[06:02] <mappps> morning
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[06:02] <mappps> of course
[07:15] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:33] <foobarry> the amazon sale had some prominent items, like fire hd7 etc
[07:33] <foobarry> i used a fire and found the UI hideous
[08:18] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:19] <bashrc_> morning
[08:27] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:30] <davmor2> MooDoo, diddledan: Pink Floyd Another brick in the wall part II this morning :)
[08:32] <MooDoo> nice
[08:33] <davmor2> MooDoo: it'll be the collecting the Step Son from the hospital 7 hour trip yesterday that triggered that at a guess :)
[08:35] <MooDoo> ouch lol
[08:35] <MooDoo> hope he's ok
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Corn Fritters Day! 😃
[08:41] <davmor2> JamesTait: http://open.spotify.com/track/2WrAmnTrQcxhc1GAiPF6nk
[08:42] <JamesTait> davmor2, "Login to listen for free"?
[08:43] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE
[08:43] <foobarry> davmor2: i know the feeling. had 6hr trip from 12-6am
[08:43] <foobarry> on tuesd/wed
[08:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:45] <davmor2> foobarry: this was just collecting him, We were told he would be ready to leave at 12:00, So left at 11 got there at 12:15 Expecting to collect him and go, no they meant he would be leaving the ward and heading down to the departures room to wait on the pharmacy
[09:15] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Was it your goodself extoling the virtues of byobu recently?
[09:16] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: most likely
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> Because I have now tried it and, now understand what it is.
[09:16] <TwistedLucidity> Not to belittle it but "Tmux made sane" would be a good summary. It's really neat.
[09:19] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: and now you too can't live without it ;)  I think there is one gotcha to look out for which is I don't think it handles nested well, the controls only ever work on the outer shell I think.  There might be a fix for that or a way to switch from one to the other not sure :)
[09:19] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: I'll be demoing it tonight and other multiplexers. Shall see what the troops think.
[09:20] <davmor2> \o/
[09:20] <TwistedLucidity> Quite liking dvtm+dtach too.
[09:22] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: the nice thing that dick_turpin discovered, is even if you're server doesn't auto start byobu for you, you don't have to remember some made reattach command, you just start byobu again and there it all is :)
[09:22] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah. "dtach -A /tmp/username -r winch dvtm" doesn't roll of they keys, does it?
[09:23] <TwistedLucidity> Although the likes of "screen" do let you run multiple sessions. Although that seems to forget layout when you detach, which is weird.
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> i just have a script that has reattach line for tmux in it.  so 2 letter name of that script instead of full reattach line
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah. I have something similar for mRemoteNG on Windows when I want to escape to reality.
[10:17] <diplo> Only issue I have with byobu is connecting via Putty, scrolls, only fix that I found last time was changing from tmux to screen but that causes its own issues
[10:19] <davmor2> diplo: there is a scroll mode, but I've not had issues scrolling on my server running byobu
[10:22] <davmor2> diplo: F7 and then alt+pgup/pgdown
[10:23] <diplo> davmor2: Don't mean like scrolling the page
[10:23] <diplo> The bottom status bar just scrolls up forever in putty
[10:24] <davmor2> diplo: oh right okay
[10:24] <diplo> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10731099/byobu-hard-status-line-scrolls-the-screen-when-updating
[10:25] <diplo> Ah seems an answer that that I haven't tried :)
[10:26] <davmor2> diplo: oh good let me know if it works would be interested even though I don't need putty fortunately
[10:26] <diplo> yah it does :)
[10:26] <diplo> woohoo
[10:26] <davmor2> diplo: also in windows 10 powershell and ssh it's almost like they are catching up with Linux ;)
[10:26] <diplo> So in putty its set to latin1 by default it seems
[10:26] <diplo> changing to utf8 fixes it
[10:27] <diplo> On putty here ( use it from my ubuntu box normally )
[10:27] <davmor2> diplo: weirdo ;)
[10:27] <diplo> Yeah, used to use PS a lot in my last job, may have to play again
[10:27] <davmor2> diplo: up vote it quick :)
[10:28] <diplo> I've not got a user on there, although I use it all the time
[10:28] <diplo> Guess I should sign up :)
[10:30] <diplo> And done!
[10:39] <bigcalm> davmor2: just had a call from Amo. I've only just realised what a strong Wolverhampton accent he has
[10:41] <davmor2> bigcalm: Ahhhhhh that's racist ;) No it's true he is true a son of Wolverhampton :)
[10:43] <bigcalm> He misses you
[10:44] <davmor2> bigcalm: I should be at the next meeting
[10:44] <bigcalm> I hope everything in life allows you to do so :)
[10:47] <intrbiz> next meet on the 22nd?
[10:47] <bigcalm> Should be
[10:48] <bigcalm> I'm at a PHP conference in Portsmouth this weekend, otherwise would have given Barcamp a go in brum
[10:51] <intrbiz> ah
[10:51] <intrbiz> I was in sommerset / hampshire last weekend
[10:51] <intrbiz> will actually get back to wolvo for the first time in 2 weeks tomorrow evening
[10:51] <bigcalm> Beer festival? Or is that type casting you now?
[10:52] <bigcalm> How's it going down there?
[10:52] <intrbiz> Yeovilton Air Day (was awesome)
[10:52] <bigcalm> Cool
[10:52] <intrbiz> going well, essentially gotta rebuild all the PostgreSQL servers, so they are done propperly
[10:54]  * bigcalm shudders
[10:56] <awilkins> Can you not get a nice Docker container of PostgreSQL
[10:57] <awilkins> Isn't EVERYTHING docker containers these days ;-)
[10:58] <davmor2> bigcalm: that means intrbiz was in a beer tent with planes right?
[10:58] <davmor2> bigcalm: actually it was Yeovil so more like Cider tent
[11:06] <intrbiz> I did have some rather morish cider, but was too busy watching planes to drink much
[11:06] <intrbiz> awilkins: its more about tuning for scale
[11:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: see I know intrbiz too ;)  intrbiz glad to hear you had a good time, did you take photos?
[11:09] <intrbiz> a couple, only with the phone, so not very good: https://twitter.com/intrbiz/status/620685043820830724
[11:38] <knightwork> howdy peeps
[12:05] <awilkins> Gnnnnngh. My Windows VM decided to do a windows update in the middle of a webconference. And then reboot, interrupting the conference.
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> it was for the best, ms decreed it
[12:07] <awilkins> The resulting terrible performance was all the result of Windows, and the takehome message that my senior colleague gets from this..... "You should stop running Windows in a VM before someone raises it as an issue"
[12:50] <foobarry> i disabled windows from doing this kind of thing for my vsphere OS install
[12:50] <foobarry> intrbiz: bit jealous
[12:51] <foobarry> air shows are great. especially ones with spitfires
[12:52] <zmoylan-pi> nowt like the sound of a merlin overhead...
[12:55] <foobarry> or 4
[12:55] <zmoylan-pi> oooh, a lanc?
[12:55] <foobarry> about to root my hudl to get rid of the startup chime
[12:56] <foobarry> i saw the BoB flyover from my office roof last week
[12:56] <foobarry> quite a few in that one
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> on my android tablets i found turning the sound down to zero at home screen affected the bootup noise
[12:56] <foobarry> not on the hudl
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> that's annoying
[12:56] <foobarry> their loss
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> i can't abide bings and bongs on startup
[12:56] <foobarry> because after root i will do other things, but this is the catalyst
[12:57] <foobarry> nor can my wife if i can't sleep and want to read
[12:57] <foobarry> in the middle of night
[12:57] <foobarry> or i'm in a meeting
[12:57] <foobarry> just had a great post-lunch nap. on with my day!
[12:57] <zmoylan-pi> i use my phone for ereader.  it's a nokia and i don't have to think about it's battery life
[12:59] <zmoylan-pi> and if i fall asleep reading it'll bounce with no damage
[13:50] <intrbiz> zmoylan-pi: the lanc is currently grounded due to engine fire
[13:51] <intrbiz> I did see the only two lancs in the world together last year at cosford, the other one having come over from canada
[13:51] <intrbiz> at costford last month, there was a formation flypast of the BBMF and the Red Arrows
[15:19] <mappps> most successful month for a while on betfair
[15:19] <mappps> only made 1 deposit all month;D
[15:25] <nigelb> 26
[15:25] <nigelb> gah
[15:27] <davmor2> 42 I think you'll find is the right answer nigelb
[15:27] <nigelb> davmor2: :)
[15:27] <nigelb> davmor2: A few off-by-one errors is all.
[15:27] <foobarry> popey: hudl2 rooting is now very easy and loses no data
[15:28] <davmor2> foobarry: but why do it ;)
[15:28] <foobarry> to get rid of the startup BONGGGG
[15:29] <foobarry> that annoys sleeping wives and people in meetings
[15:29] <foobarry> that is non mutable
[15:29] <davmor2> foobarry: don't turn it off :P
[15:29] <foobarry> unfortunately the batteries are *lame*
[15:29] <davmor2> foobarry: did tell you :)
[15:37] <foobarry> :(
[15:37] <foobarry> nice otherwise though
[15:37] <foobarry> stupid intel chips
[16:42] <diddledan> I think that mobo might be dead
[16:43] <diddledan> several hdds have now not worked properly on it - in various sata ports. now it's not even initialising a usb thumbdrive
[16:43] <diddledan> problem is I want data off the drive in there
[16:45] <diddledan> annoyingly, too, I wanted to archive a load of 5.25" floppies and that mobo is the only one I have which has an fdd
[16:45] <diddledan> controller.
[17:09] <knightwise> victorp: victor  ? you in ?
[17:09] <victorp> knightwise, I think you might have the wrong victor
[17:18] <diddledan> allo knightwise
[18:15] <SuperEngineer> hmmm... am I hoping for too much connecting my android phone to ubuntu pc & transfer files?
[18:16] <zmoylan-pi> transferring files on and off android is a chore
[18:16] <zmoylan-pi> was easier in earlier versions of android when it appeared as a usb drive.  now it's mtp which sometimes is wonky
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> or goes slow, or doesn't want to work on days with a y in it
[18:18] <DJones> SuperEngineer: Install airdroid on your android device, connect via a web browser, job done
[18:18] <DJones> Connects over wifi
[18:19] <DJones> Best method I've found
[18:20] <SuperEngineer> DJones, via a web browser????
[18:20] <DJones> Yep, once installed on android device, and started, it gives you a htttp address, just plug that into a computers web browsers and it works like a file manager
[18:21] <zmoylan-pi> and *THAT'S* considered easy...
[18:22] <DJones> zmoylan-pi: Can't get much easier, click one button on android device, put one http address into a browser, can't get much easier than that
[18:23] <DJones> SuperEngineer: https://www.airdroid.com/
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> file size limitation on free plan... 100mb
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> or is that the premium...
[18:27] <DJones> I've never found any file size limits
[18:28] <SuperEngineer> DJones, oh bugger... freememory too small for it! /me now annoyed... but thanks :)
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.airdroid.com/en/pay/ 'Transfer larger files by remote transfer, 1GB with Windows & Mac, and 100MB with Web.'
[18:30] <SuperEngineer> DJones, [but gonna try anyway!! ... it's installed!!! double thanks!!!
[18:31] <DJones> zmoylan-pi: "Transfer larger files by _remote_ _transfer_" I just use local transfer over a home wifi network, nothing remote is involved
[18:35] <DJones> zmoylan-pi: Just testing, its go no issue with me trying to copy a 2Gb file across my own wifi network toa tablet
[18:39] <SuperEngineer> Airdroid now removed. nthink I'll stick to SDcard transfer - thanks again though
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> fair enough, i may give it a shot next time mtp decides to be a nuisance
[18:50] <diddledan> good ol' phil: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hes-done-it-again-prince-philip-makes-yet-another-public-gaffe/ar-AAd2FON?ocid=iehp
[18:56] <zmoylan-pi> well if anyone knows about sponging...
[19:02] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: he prolly has a spongebath every night?
[19:13] <zmoylan-pi> living off state handouts
[19:33] <SuperEngineer> living off hand state outs
[19:35] <zmoylan-pi> i'm guessing philip fills out fewer forms for more dosh
[20:31] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:19] <mappps> zmoylan-pi, / daftykins / diddledan  watched any of mr robot?
[21:20] <mappps> morning bigcalm ?:)
[21:57] <diddledan> evening