=== Symmetri1 is now known as Symmetria [04:55] morning all [04:57] heh [04:57] kilos wanna see something mindblowing [04:57] :) how are you btw [04:57] More oom [04:57] im ok ty and you, i dont have data for vids [04:57] More Symmetria [04:57] tell me about it [04:57] hi mazal [04:57] http://www.speedtest.net/result/4507060258.png <==== look at that speed test, and forget where it was taken.... just think about this.... it was taken *OVER WIFI* [04:58] oh thats ok [04:58] heh those are my new wifi AP's at home [04:58] Things like that just makes me angry [04:58] wow [04:59] heh, I bought two AP's when I was in za on Monday [04:59] interestingly enough that is the fastest of the two, its a dlink [04:59] the other one I get around 450mbit up and down [04:59] (other one was cheaper, and is made by apple) [04:59] d-link make good equipment [04:59] heh, so, recommendation [04:59] AC3200 D-Link [04:59] Here in SA we must just pay for everyone's greed and get no service for it [04:59] or Airport Extreme by Apple [05:00] either one of those are fantastic [05:00] even the d-link usb modems are better [05:00] (but if you want that kinda wireless speed, that AC3200 is the only dlink that can do it, and they are pretty pricey) [05:01] one warning about 802.11ac though [05:01] well here its useless having fast equipment unless you have ftth connection [05:01] it will *chew* battery on the client devices [05:01] kilos depends what you doing on your home network [05:02] if you moving stuff around your home network or trying to stream 4k video or something [05:02] :) [05:02] oh ya for local [05:02] fast wifi is good [05:02] local never was a prob, its our internet that sucks [05:03] heh but 802.11ac is so new that not THAT much supports it yet [05:03] like, macbooks have done since late 2013 [05:03] the S5 and S6 samsung phones support it [05:03] and the iphone 6 supports it [05:03] but beyond that, not a huge amount [05:04] * mazal waits for donkie kar server to restart [05:19] Symmetria: \o/ [06:43] mornings [07:24] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:25] Morning all [07:25] hi Padroni [07:26] how are you? [07:26] good ty and you? [07:26] I am good [07:26] just tired :/ [07:26] again [07:26] still [07:26] my son is cutting teeth [07:27] he wakes us between 4 and 8 times a night [07:27] ouch [07:27] so I have a grumpy baby and a grumpy wife [07:28] because my life isn't complicated enough as it is [07:28] lol [07:29] bought me a nice 250Gb SSD earlier the week [07:29] so gonna swop it out with the 128GB one I have in my laptop [07:29] and move the 128 to my desktop [07:33] nice [07:38] these ssd's are fast [07:38] 550Mb read / 530Mb write per second [07:38] crazy [07:38] read / write obviously not at once [07:39] yeah when i tried one it flew [07:39] * mazal stares and a wheel that turns but nothing happens [07:39] Hi Padroni [07:39] hi mazal [07:39] hoe gaan dit? [07:39] Besig maar goed dankie en daar ? [07:40] same old, same old [07:40] is there an effective way to move a user account (about 55GB) from one ubuntu install to another? [07:40] or should I just copy over the data manually? [07:41] Same OS and flavour Padroni ? [07:41] yeah, 'buntu 1404 [07:42] I wanted to say how I would do , but will probably be in the dogbox. Rather wait for the clever guys [07:43] Yay the wheel stopped turning !!!! That was only about 15 minutes to get a user's properties screen open :P [07:45] whaaaaat? [07:45] why so long? [07:45] you runnign RAT via dial-up? [07:45] gprs? [07:45] Edge? [07:45] I am creating new users , on a MS AD domain , over a WAN that has only 1mb line , with 210 pc's on it currently all busy doing Win 7 updates [07:46] Patience is needed to say the least [07:46] jeez [07:46] my I ask [07:46] would it not be better [07:46] to have one pc download all updates [07:46] and have all pc's update from that pc? [07:47] Not my choice remember [07:47] I must do the work , but may not make any choices or suggestions' [07:47] Fucking management. They will be the death of us all. [07:47] pardon my french [07:47] ugh [07:47] Head Office set up the updates to ran from a server at their side [07:47] why do you people let yourselves be stepped on like that [07:47] But non of the clowns thought about our poor bandwidth on the WAN [07:48] * Padroni is with ThatGraemeGuy on this [07:48] Ok new user screen apeared , now I can continue for 5 minutes before I need to wait again lol [07:49] how are you, ThatGraemeGuy? [07:50] lekker thanks, you? [07:51] stil [07:51] tired but fine [07:51] I am currently in the market for a new DSL provider. [07:51] Morning [07:51] Uncapped, with SSH / VPN services available, dedicated IP if possible, and not on the MTN backbone. [07:51] if uncapped and you are willing to schedule heavy downloads between midnight and 08:00, crystalweb home premium [07:51] For under R700 if possible. [07:52] url? [07:52] must not be on MTN backbone [07:52] www.crystalweb.co.za [07:52] * mazal cicks the finish button and goes for a sb while wheel is turning [07:52] I am currently with Afrihost and their latency is f*cking with my SSH sessions [07:52] ^5 Padroni [07:52] yeah afrihost has lost the plot [07:52] MTN backbone sucks [07:52] 'they are working on it' [07:52] in the mean time [07:53] I have threatened Telkom with physical violence (went to their shop and threatened to shoot up the place) if they don't sort out my line [07:53] had Telkom's guys come and replace the 50-core cable in my whole street in self defense [07:53] for anyone else reading, please don't do that [07:53] only to now find out it was Afrihost all along [07:53] eish [07:54] you know you can get a free 1GB account from just about anyone nowadays [07:54] THIS is why I don't qualify for a firearm licence. [07:54] I go through between 6 and 10Gb a day [07:54] I have a bunch, if stuff starts acting up, I try a few others to see if its a telkom or isp issue [07:54] 1Gb is not enough... [07:54] 1gb is for testing, smarty pants [07:54] I know [07:55] but I am running a vpn via untangle [07:55] such a schlep to change the settings all the time [07:55] necessary evil though, I guess. [07:55] if you need serious service and performance you ought to be paying for a business account anyway [07:55] I am currently on a Afirhost business package [07:55] well not with them, duh [07:56] You'd think the service would be better [07:56] You'd be wrong. [07:56] no you wouldn't if you've been paying attention to the buzz in the industry :) [07:56] I don't follow the buzz around dsl providers, to be honest [07:56] my attention is on opsec and infosec [07:56] so I am late to the party with this MTN thing [07:57] "Click to run Adobe Flash Player" [07:57] That makes me nervous... [08:03] Their issues started more than a year ago already [08:03] Then it was better for a while and the about a month ago things collapsed again [08:03] Closed my account at them completely === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [08:19] mazal: you've run ubuntu off an external disk before yes? [08:25] ThatGraemeGuy: Yep , for a long time [08:26] what was on the internal drive when you did that? [08:26] Win 7 [08:26] I've transplanted my O/S to external and installed grub there, but i suspect that when i boot its still loading grub from the internal hdd [08:27] even if i specifically select external hdd as boot device [08:27] although if i select Ubuntu on /dev/sda2 from grub menu, it loads my O/S from external just fine [08:27] confused [08:28] You have grub on both drives ? [08:28] yes [08:28] I'm going to put windows 8 on the internal hdd but i don't want to do that until I'm sure that I'm booting completely independently from the external [08:28] But external can't be sda2 , should be sdb1 [08:29] sorry it is, typo [08:29] sdb2 [08:29] sdb1 is an NTFS partition with stuff on it [08:29] doesn't really matter though [08:29] All I can think is the grub install to sdb didn't install correct [08:29] OR UEFI is enabled [08:29] let me see if i can disable the internal hdd in bios maybe [08:30] not UEFI not currently enabled, but will be for win 8 [08:30] hmmm [08:30] will external not work then? this UEFI stuff is beyond me [08:30] Try disble internal , just to test external's grub [08:30] yeah let me do that quickly [08:32] And by "transplanted" you mean ? Fresh install or something else ? [08:34] nope, refuses to boot from external [08:34] well refuses to load grub from it anyway [08:35] ^^ previous question [08:35] transplanted: booted livecd, rsync data from /dev/sda1->/dev/sdb2 and /dev/sda5->/dev/sdb3 [08:35] / and /home, respectively [08:35] Did you remember to check grub.cong UUID's [08:36] Sometime , even after grub install the UUID's still point to wrong drive in grub.conf [08:36] It might have the source's config still [08:36] then mount / and /home of the external, bind mount /dev /proc /sys /run, chroot into external hdd, update-initramfs -k all -u, update-grub, grub-install /dev/sdb [08:36] update-grub fixes that [08:36] and if that were the case then I would not be able to boot it at all [08:37] this is simply that grub does not load from the external hdd for some reason [08:37] and the obvious " boot from usb" in bios is enabled ne ? [08:37] its the only device enabled for booting [08:37] no grub [08:37] damn [08:38] Size of external ? [08:38] 1TB [08:38] relevance? [08:38] Do you have seperate /boot partition ? [08:38] no [08:38] One of my 1TB's refused to boot external until I made /boot seperate 2gig partition [08:39] seems unnecessary [08:39] Was only on a laptop [08:39] And was the only thing that fixed it [08:39] Booted fine on desktop pc , refused on laptop , then tried that and worked [08:39] meh [08:40] I don't know why [08:40] I'm done, will do it some other way some other time [08:40] Is the only thing I can think of , otherwise you covered all bases [08:40] Try boot it from a desktop pc and see what happens [08:44] partitions same size on external as on internal, that doesn't make sense [08:44] I'm done, back in internal [08:44] will tackle this another day [08:46] Do you need that Win 8 btw ? [08:46] need to get to grips with this UEFI business [08:46] yes, the laptop came with Win 8 in UEFI mode, so the product key is embeded in the firmware [08:46] and you must install in UEFI mode to make use of it [08:47] Bloody MS [08:47] if you try and install Win 8 in BIOS mode, and provide the extracted key, it will supposedly reject the key [08:47] I hate that MS crap [08:47] so I need to fully re-do the laptop, including installing Ubuntu in UEFI mode too [08:48] UEFI isn't MS crap it was developed by a consortium of 140-odd tech companies [08:48] I was reffering to the keys and moeny side [08:49] But they probably have no choice with all the pirating [08:52] maybe I can figure out why that software won't work in a VM [09:14] what error does it give? :) [09:16] ThatGraemeGuy: what do you use for VM's? [09:17] MaNI: its supposed to install a driver, which it doesn't seem to do for some readon [09:17] reason [09:17] Padroni: virtualbox [09:18] thought so [09:18] me too [09:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SpQ1fRQAto [09:19] That looks nice though [09:19] Xenserver setup. [09:19] going to try vmware, perhaps it maps usb devices to guests differently [09:19] vm is paid-for software, is it not? [09:20] vmware player is free [09:20] but it is also enterprise level virtualization [09:20] hmmm [09:20] which is the best ? [09:20] kvm :) [09:20] don't have any experience with vmware yet [09:20] "enterprise level virtualization" is meaningless marketing speak [09:21] I don't know of any big companies using virtualbox [09:21] that is what I meant [09:21] vmware is a company too, not a product [09:22] they have products that cover the entire spectrum [09:22] I am talking about their products... [09:22] and vmware player is probably the simplest of the lot [09:22] its more or less equivalent to virtualbox [09:22] virtualbox - (just checking) you have tried setting a direct passthrough for the usb device in question, right? [09:23] is that where i map it to the vm in it's settings, rather than just connecting it on-the-fly using the device menu? [09:24] yeah [09:24] yeah, did that [09:25] it sees the device in device manager but it comes up as an onrecognised USBMS device for which it can't find a driver [09:25] so I guess there's some translation happening at the usb layer rather than a real untainted pass-thru [09:26] :/ [09:59] Maaz you know what I want now [09:59] mazal: *blink* [09:59] Maaz food [09:59] mazal: Excuse me? [11:06] I have to run [11:06] good day all [11:07] laters folks [11:07] hi Private_User [11:07] hi Padroni [11:08] does anybody know what terminology is used to describe when you combine like multiple machines to create one huge powerful machine? [11:08] my friend has like 4 desktops and he wants to try that but not sure what to google for [11:10] Private_User peeps used the rasberry pi to do it and there is a diadram somewhere online [11:11] thanks Kilos [11:11] but only 1 question, what is a diadram? [11:11] lol [11:11] I am assuming you mean diagram? [11:11] i cant remember what i even googled at the time [11:11] ya that thing [11:12] http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/306972,weekend-project-build-your-own-supercomputer.aspx [11:12] maybe something like that [11:16] cluster [11:16] thanks Kilos, I will send him the above link he can read up further [11:16] there are many [11:17] just gppgle how to connected many computers to build a super computer [11:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_cluster [11:19] thanks MaNI [11:20] I sent him both links he can read [11:20] hehe [11:20] ty MaNI [11:20] in his case seeing as he only has 4 hes probably more interested in beowulf clusters or similar than supercomputer ones :p [11:46] I must still try the multi screen thing [11:46] **sigh** Many things I must still try [12:05] * Kilos reading http://cs.boisestate.edu/~amit/research/beowulf/beowulf-setup.pdf [12:12] Private_User let him look here too https://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/9401 [12:24] thanks Kilos, I sent him the links, he needs to read up now we cannot read for him [12:24] hehe [12:25] mazal: I hear you many things I need to not only try but do #procrastination [12:25] lol [12:29] also tell him google is his friend Private_User [12:29] google is everyones friend but mine [12:29] MaNI ty for the beowulf info [12:31] not to be confused with the poem/movie :p [12:31] tempted to try 2 dual core pcs [12:36] Time to caal it a day [12:36] call* [12:36] its a day [12:36] Have a nice evening everyone [12:37] Cheers [12:37] go well [13:26] Maaz forecast pretoria [13:26] Kilos: Thursday: Clear. High: 22° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 5° C., Friday: Clear. High: 18° C., Friday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Saturday: Clear. High: 21° C., Saturday Night: Clear. Low: 4° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 23° C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 7° C., Monday: Clear. High: 24° C., Monday Night: Clear. Low: 8° C., Tuesday: Clear. High: [13:26] 25° C., Tuesday Night: Clear. Low: 9° C., Wednesday: Clear. High: 22° C., Wednesday Nigh… [13:27] oh my here comes the bad cold again [13:27] bed till 10 am [13:30] Maaz: forecase brackenfell [13:30] ThatGraemeGuy: Sorry... [13:30] Maaz: forecast brackenfell [13:30] ThatGraemeGuy: City not found [13:30] bleh [13:35] hehe [13:36] he dont do suburbs [13:36] Maaz forecast capetown south africa [13:36] Kilos: City not found [13:36] ai! [13:37] Maaz weather in capetown [13:37] Kilos: City not found [13:38] QA forecast cape town south africa [13:38] Kilos: Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 15° C., Thursday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 9° C., Friday: Rain. High: 13° C., Friday Night: Rain. Low: 10° C., Saturday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17° C., Saturday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 9° C., Sunday: Partly Cloudy. High: 16° C., Sunday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 9° C., Monday: Chance of Rain. High: 14° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 8° C., Tuesday: Clear. High: 16° C.,… [13:38] Maaz weather in cape town [13:38] Kilos: In Cape Town, South Africa at 3:00 PM SAST on July 16, 2015: 15°C; Humidity: 59%; Wind: NW at 24 km/h; Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 7:48 AM SAST/5:55 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 7:43 AM SAST/6:34 PM SAST [13:39] eeeek your high today is only 15°c [15:17] Maaz: weather in Durban [15:17] Private_User: In La Mercy, South Africa at 5:00 PM SAST on July 16, 2015: 20°C; Humidity: 83%; Wind: South at 22 km/h; Conditions: Scattered Clouds; Sunrise/set: 6:50 AM SAST/5:14 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 6:45 AM SAST/5:50 PM SAST [15:18] Maaz: forecast durban [15:18] Private_User: Thursday: Clear. High: 24° C., Thursday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 13° C., Friday: Chance of Rain. High: 22° C., Friday Night: Clear. Low: 8° C., Saturday: Clear. High: 23° C., Saturday Night: Clear. Low: 12° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 22° C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 11° C., Monday: Clear. High: 24° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 14° [15:18] C., Tuesday: Chance of Rain. High: 20° C., Tuesday Night: Rain. Low: 13° C., Wednesday… [15:38] hmm... [15:41] hi z3r009 hows things there [15:41] hi man, okay, and you? [15:41] good ty [15:43] Hmm that capetown weather has been sent on it's way here, grrr [15:43] yeah [15:43] we gonna freeze for a few days [15:43] Yip, like last few days [15:44] no even colder [15:44] 5°c or even more [16:13] pro gonna freeze on his bike int the morning [16:40] eish no chatting for a while hands full of genkem [16:41] hard to type with pinkis [18:21] moo [18:29] good evening [18:30] hi magespawn [18:30] hi ThatGraemeGuy [18:31] you missed us? [18:34] who me? [18:35] no graeme [18:36] ahh right [18:49] Kilos, Any idea what south africans call http://www.solarpanelstore.com/solar-power.elec-parts.ilsco-lugs.html by any chance? The american term "grounding lug" does not seem to bring much joy when searching [18:50] lemme see === MaNL is now known as MaNI [18:51] grounding is normally your earth [18:52] yeah [18:53] those things are what eskom use for joining different cables [18:53] they're special connectors for earthing, because you can't put copper earth wire directly on aluminium, and also just because its more secure to have a proper connector :p [18:54] ya [18:54] MaNI: grounding block [18:54] I assume such a thing must exist locally, so it must have some south african name that I don't know :p [18:54] oh [18:55] hrm, maybe [18:56] ya eskom use the an city electrical places' [18:57] except blocks are usually for multiple wires [18:57] likt i have 2 here i think that tswane electric left behind [18:58] I guess I could saw one into pieces if I get desperate [19:03] Night everyone , sleep well [19:22] anyone got contacts for a battery for a lenovo t410 thinkpad [19:22] i only find prices of around r1400 [19:22] that way too much for me [19:32] yikes [19:32] did you try searching by the barcode on the battery pack? often find cheaper generics that way [19:36] lemme try get that info from ian' [19:36] ty MaNI [19:37] he has the lappy for me but battery stuffed [19:38] that should not be a problem, you can run it from the power [19:38] only a problem if you want to use it on the move, or during loadshedding :p [19:38] i only want the think for when i have a meeting and load shedding [19:39] i dont like laptops [19:39] so its just a backup [19:40] ahh right [19:41] i have not really used a desktop in awhile [19:41] hehe [19:41] i like taking my stuff with me [19:41] i love my desktop and hate loadshedding [19:42] and mxit dead from here [19:42] ai! [20:03] bedtime for me, good night all [20:18] superfly keep the cold weather there man [20:22] Kilos-: it';s not my fault. [20:22] lol ok [20:32] * Kilos- notes the pro stays away === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [20:32] big storm in rustenburg [20:35] MaNI does this barcode make sense - 11s42t4796z1zjpf15g28w 2011.05 [20:37] i have no idea how to google with that [20:38] for that [20:47] no don't think so [20:47] check enxt to it for a serial number [20:47] or part number [20:47] ok ill ask [20:48] like on mine it has: part number GCR-B/984 [20:48] if I google that I'll usually et far more direct hits than if I google "battery for HP compaq xxxx" [20:48] ok ty [20:49] as a last resort you could also look for someone who does 'repacking' - i.e. opening up the case and replacing the cells inside instead of buying a new pack, if you can find somewhere reasonable [20:50] ok ty ill keep trying [20:50] laptop batteries are a real pain :/ [20:51] he gave this n14608 [20:53]