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Unit193Ooooh.02:45
bluesabre(probably works)02:45
bluesabre;)02:45
Unit193bluesabre: dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso02:45
bluesabre /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf b520b587f75dde65913eda77097dbd79 obsolete02:46
bluesabre /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_ubuntu.conf cc6d5ef33952ab5da042b36bb3c9a812 obsolete02:46
bluesabre /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf 33277f4b23d3d9918fdd078b11c7bd25 obsolete02:46
bluesabreUnit193: so... whats that command do specifically?02:47
Unit193So the new package doesn't ship those, but the older one did and as they are config fiels they weren't automatically removed.02:47
Unit193Have an old system, you'll have those files.  Get a new install, you won't.02:47
bluesabre$ ls /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf02:47
bluesabrels: cannot access /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf: No such file or directory02:47
bluesabre01_ubuntu is provided by the greeter package02:48
bluesabremy system might just be all sorts of silly atm02:48
bluesabreUnit193: which file is it that configures the "Xubuntu" session?02:55
Unit193Define?02:55
Unit193Explain.02:55
bluesabresets session runtime variables02:55
bluesabremakes it different from xfce session02:55
bluesabredigging around, but just can't seem to figure out :D02:57
Unit193The session name is from /usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop, and etc/X11/Xsession.d/60x11-common_xdg_path sets some vars.02:58
bluesabreah, k03:00
Unit193I'm not sure what you are looking for.03:00
bluesabretrying to figure out where I can set environment vars that we're interested in03:01
Unit193Is /etc/profile.d/ a better place then?03:02
bluesabreyeah, I think so (just came across that)03:03
Unit193!xy03:03
ubottuThe XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.03:03
Unit193:P03:03
bluesabrelol03:03
Unit193Maybe micahg would like to give input on how he'd like to set default env vars.03:03
micahgwhat's the question?03:05
bluesabrewe're wanting to set default env vars03:06
bluesabreexport QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk03:06
bluesabrefor qt5 apps to use gtk theme03:06
bluesabreexport GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=003:06
bluesabreto disable gtk 3.16 overlay scrollbars03:06
bluesabrewhat's the best way to do that? :)03:07
micahggood question03:10
bluesabre:)03:10
Unit193/etc/profile.d/ doesn't seem horrible...03:11
Unit193!find /etc/profile.d/03:11
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:03:11
micahgthat's for bash rhoufh03:11
Unit193!find /etc/profile.d/03:11
micahg*though03:11
ubottuFile /etc/profile.d/ found in alliance, appmenu-qt5, bash-completion, byobu, click-bin-path, cloud-init, environment-modules, language-selector-common, libqmfmessageserver1, libvirt-bin (and 12 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=/etc/profile.d/&mode=&suite=wily&arch=any03:11
micahgso, if you launch from shell you're good03:11
Unit193Welp..03:12
Unit193Sure it doesn't apply/03:15
micahg/etc/X11/Xsession.d/ ?  03:16
Unit193!find /etc/X11/Xsession.d/03:17
ubottuFile /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ found in at-spi2-core, awesome, brightd, cinnamon-session-common, compiz-gnome, consolekit, dbus-x11, deejayd, desktop-profiles, edubuntu-live (and 27 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=/etc/X11/Xsession.d/&mode=&suite=wily&arch=any03:17
Unit193I guess so, seemed like more core though.03:17
* Unit193 shrugs.03:17
bluesabrelooks like the mate folks use it profile.d for gtk env vars https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-settings/files/head:/etc/profile.d/03:17
micahgxfce4-session: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55xfce4-session03:17
bluesabreah03:17
bluesabrethat seems like a winner03:17
bluesabre:D03:17
micahgit sets XDG_DATA_DIRS03:18
Unit193So I noticed.03:18
Unit193micahg: Oh, perhaps can you see my question in -motu?03:19
micahgI did, I forgot03:20
Unit193\o/03:21
bluesabrehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11885898/ seems to work03:43
bluesabre:D03:43
Unit193How about checking 'XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP' for 'XFCE'?  Might ask US and Myth?03:44
bluesabrewasn't sure how far we wanted to go03:44
bluesabreis this xubuntu-default-settings or a patch for xfce4-session?03:44
Unit193I thought x-d-s, but since you have that check... :D03:45
Unit193zequence_ Perhaps might like to chime in?03:45
bluesabreprobably wouldn't hurt to mention to Corsac, though he is not a fan of configuring xfce in debian03:48
bluesabreor adding qt configs03:48
bluesabre:D03:48
Unit193:D04:01
ochosimorning06:43
ochosibluesabre: actually, can we do anything about having both nm-connection-editor *and* network-admin in the settings manager? ir really sucks that both have/use the same icon and from my side i can't do anything about that06:47
ochosibluesabre: for your convenience: https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/releases/tag/v0.609:18
ochosibluesabre: and as if that hadn't been convenient enough, here you go: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/wily/revision/28709:28
ochosibluesabre, Noskcaj: parole not starting in wily is likely also this: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182509:37
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 11825 in General "Parole segmentation fault related to gtk3/clutter/cogl update" [Normal,New]09:37
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bluesabreochosi: awesome!10:55
ochosiyeah, had a productive morning ;)10:56
bluesabreochosi: make a bug report for the two network managers and we can do something about it (probably hide one for xubuntu)11:04
bluesabre:D11:04
bluesabregotta run, bbl11:04
ochosiokeydokey, i'll consider it, actually they do different things though11:04
ochosiit's just silly that both use the same icon and all11:04
ochosianyway, hf and ttyl11:05
bluesabreochosi: so, next up are greybird and lo-theme tags, right?11:28
ochosibluesabre: yup11:35
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ochosibluesabre: if we modify quite a few gtk3 defaults, i'm wondering whether we should expose those via xfce4-appearance-settings in the settings tab as checkboxes15:13
pleia2doing CC check-in now in #ubuntu-meeting w/ xubuntu17:32
bluesabreochosi: maybe... but if there is no equivalent in gtk2, it almost seems silly22:01
bluesabreit would also be a lot of gtk runtime checks (okay, so between 3.6 and 3.10 I have these annoyances, etc)22:02
Unit193bluesabre: We had the CC catchup today, they've rejected you as the tech lead and will now tar and feather you.22:08
Unit193...Or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.22:08
bluesabresounds fairly accurate22:14
bluesabrehopefully they are giving me travel expenses to go get tarred and feathered22:15
bluesabreawww, no mention in the logs of tar or feathers22:24
bluesabreand we're still doing a great job22:25
bluesabrego team!22:25
bluesabreand because not everybody will know where to look....22:25
bluesabrehttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/07/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt22:25
bluesabreochosi: very happy to see this commit...22:26
bluesabreNotice(SwissBot) -> #xubuntu-devel: ::xubuntu-artwork:: [greybird] r433 Style over- and undershoot... (by Simon Steinbeiß)22:26
bluesabregoing to work on cleaning the apartment now, but ping if you need me, I'll try to pay attention22:27
bluesabrepleia2, ochosi, micahg, Unit193 -- sorry I couldn't make it to the CC meeting, but thanks for holding down the fort22:28
bluesabre(not that you needed my input) ;)22:29
Unit193Heh, I mostly just heckled from the sidelines, but sure.22:30
pleia2^ true story23:23
pleia2;)23:23

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