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| valorie | latest report on my little new notebook: it healed itself somehow | 05:08 |
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| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: that sounds like a good idea | 06:11 |
| sitter | Riddell, ScottK: telepathy-accounts-signon now in binary new | 06:22 |
| valorie | oooo | 06:30 |
| valorie | might be able to totally fixed the new lil cutie laptop | 06:30 |
| valorie | fix, I mean | 06:30 |
| haridas | Hi, Kubuntu failing to login, sddm failing and login not happeining | 06:53 |
| haridas | im on KDE 5.3 | 06:54 |
| haridas | WHy the Xserver is failing while login... what could be the reasons ? | 06:54 |
| doko | Riddell, just a heads-up the silo16 ppa currently is broken. will have it fixed in about an hour | 07:37 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:16 |
| clivejo | I was using a text file to keep notes in for packaging, but the file has disappeared from the file system. Anyone knoe what happened and if I can recover it? I was using Kate to view/edit it | 10:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:33 |
| sick_rimmit | Hey | 10:34 |
| sick_rimmit | clivejo: Kate will alsway keep a copy | 10:34 |
| sick_rimmit | it will be either prefixed or suffiex with a ~ | 10:34 |
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: where? | 10:34 |
| clivejo | Ive checked for hidden files in the same directory | 10:35 |
| sick_rimmit | In the location you were working with kate | 10:35 |
| clivejo | it has gone! | 10:35 |
| sick_rimmit | also find is your freind | 10:35 |
| sick_rimmit | you couldtry | 10:35 |
| clivejo | tried that too | 10:35 |
| sick_rimmit | find ~/ -cmin +60 -print | 10:35 |
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| sick_rimmit | will find everything with updated contents in last 60 minutes | 10:36 |
| clivejo | it happened a day of so ago | 10:36 |
| sick_rimmit | then you be able to see its location | 10:36 |
| clivejo | The file was in ~/Documents | 10:36 |
| sick_rimmit | find ~/ -ctime -2 -print | 10:36 |
| sick_rimmit | = less than 2 days ago | 10:36 |
| sick_rimmit | find ~/Documents/ -ctime -2 -print | 10:37 |
| sick_rimmit | man find | 10:37 |
| sick_rimmit | find is jolly good shell foo | 10:37 |
| clivejo | its not there | 10:37 |
| clivejo | I know, but the file is gone! | 10:37 |
| clivejo | even the history in Kate is gone :/ | 10:43 |
| clivejo | even tried to recover the Documents folder with extundelete, but nothing was recovered :/ | 10:51 |
| doko | Riddell, gcc-5 in silo16 is again fixed, armhf still building, however you only use amd64/i386 for your ppa | 11:16 |
| Riddell | lovely | 11:16 |
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| ovidiu-florin | sick_rimmit: ping | 11:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: ping | 11:37 |
| ahoneybun | pong ovidiu-florin | 11:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | hmm.... | 11:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | sick_rimmit Rick_Timmis PING | 11:42 |
| sick_rimmit | Hello | 11:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | We need to talk | 11:46 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah I need to make Konversation give me a ping | 11:46 |
| sick_rimmit | ovidiu-florin: Sounds great | 11:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun wanna start? | 11:47 |
| ahoneybun | where are you thinking? | 11:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | here, about the post | 11:47 |
| ahoneybun | plus your in a meeting in RL | 11:47 |
| sick_rimmit | The post to Kubuntu Community ? | 11:48 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit:yea | 11:48 |
| sick_rimmit | OK, cool | 11:48 |
| sick_rimmit | go ahead | 11:48 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: while I do really enjoy the idea, we have not talked about actually doing it | 11:49 |
| ahoneybun | so posting on your own is a bit rash | 11:49 |
| sick_rimmit | How so ? | 11:49 |
| sick_rimmit | Did you read kubuntu-devel mailing list | 11:49 |
| ahoneybun | I've seen a few but our team is a bit small to try it | 11:50 |
| sick_rimmit | I have only asked for useful links to stuff, that we may or may not be interested | 11:50 |
| sick_rimmit | in | 11:50 |
| ahoneybun | but we should have come into agreement to send it, not sending it randomly | 11:51 |
| sick_rimmit | At this stage, we just want an aggregation of material in a place that;s easy to review | 11:51 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah OK, look I can see that you are bothered by this action, and that is something I do NOT want | 11:52 |
| sick_rimmit | If I have done that, then I am sorry | 11:52 |
| ahoneybun | I know you did not mean anything by it | 11:52 |
| sick_rimmit | Are you in the picture with that the over all idea is ? | 11:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | sick_rimmit: we got the feeling that you are looking for voluntees to twrite the Kubuntu documentation, which is mostly what ahoneybun is doing | 11:52 |
| ovidiu-florin | an aggregation of community articles is something else | 11:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | but that's why we have Kubuntu Wire for | 11:53 |
| ahoneybun | I'm not against help, but I'm for cooperation | 11:54 |
| sick_rimmit | My objective was simply to give the G+ Community a task of crowd sourcing a bunch already exisitng materials | 11:54 |
| sick_rimmit | We don;t really have the time for that, | 11:54 |
| sick_rimmit | and ahoneybun certainly does not | 11:54 |
| sick_rimmit | I am excited at the work done by ahoneybun already | 11:54 |
| ahoneybun | video wise they would have to be original a bit as Plasma 5 is still new | 11:55 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: I was not alone | 11:55 |
| sick_rimmit | I think if this appeal turned into results, it would produce video material and some great feature articles | 11:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | sick_rimmit: I feel that we should use trello more | 11:56 |
| sick_rimmit | ovidiu-florin: I accept that point, I agree.. | 11:56 |
| sick_rimmit | hindsight, I should of posted this idea into Trello so we could consider it together | 11:56 |
| sick_rimmit | I will ensure that happens next time | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun | tbh the concept of videos and such are on trello and have been since 14.10.. | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun | just could have used a ping here and there sick_rimmit :) | 11:57 |
| sick_rimmit | ahoneybun: Yes, indeed and I had in mind to actaully make some | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun | to talk about it in depth | 11:57 |
| sick_rimmit | since that time however, KDE put a more formal video production project together | 11:58 |
| ahoneybun | I was not aware of that | 11:58 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: https://trello.com/c/7wkDmSFw/18-add-custom-kubuntu-theme-to-new-kubuntu-doc | 11:59 |
| sick_rimmit | So this action that I posted was to get the crowd to find those videos | 11:59 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: the call should have been for Kubuntu Promotional maybe, what do you think ovidiu-florin? | 12:00 |
| sick_rimmit | Whether or not you choose to use them in Kubuntu docs is an arbitrary option | 12:00 |
| sick_rimmit | ahoneybun: No that is not what I had in mind | 12:00 |
| sick_rimmit | I was hoping that in the responses we would find good quality application specific tutorials | 12:01 |
| sick_rimmit | These links you could then aggregate into you docs, perhaps a links or some other such thing | 12:01 |
| sick_rimmit | TBH, the greater value of the post is n the reaching out to an engage community, and provide a reason and purpose to get involved | 12:02 |
| santa_ | hi | 12:03 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: ok | 12:04 |
| ahoneybun | I have to go | 12:04 |
| ahoneybun | bbl | 12:04 |
| sick_rimmit | I do not want you to feel undermined, and I am sorry is you do feel that way, because it truly is not my intention | 12:04 |
| santa_ | Riddell: so now that I'm ready to send you patches for gcc 5 build failures, you mentioned you didn't like the mail attachments very much | 12:04 |
| sick_rimmit | I am an action kind of person, and my action is in support of your work, not inspite of it | 12:04 |
| Riddell | sick_rimmit: they're a bit faffy, probably my fault for using mutt on a remote server, I'd prefer them just to be put on a web server somewhere | 12:05 |
| sick_rimmit | Have a good day, and I will ensure to brief you via Trello in future | 12:05 |
| Riddell | santa_: rather ^^ | 12:05 |
| santa_ | Riddell: ok, so what about something like this: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kubuntu_patches/frameworks-5.12.0/ ? | 12:05 |
| santa_ | if that format is ok I can make something to generate that automatically | 12:06 |
| ahoneybun | I know sick_rimmit and thank you | 12:06 |
| Riddell | santa_: lovely | 12:06 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: be ready for OTA-5 on mondey | 12:06 |
| santa_ | Riddell: ok, I will do it, another thing: if you look at the sample patch, the approach is the following: mark as optional the disappearing symbols after building with gcc 5 | 12:07 |
| santa_ | source: https://wiki.debian.org/GCC5 | 12:07 |
| santa_ | see "Roadmap for libstdc++" | 12:08 |
| santa_ | Start fixing build failures without changing the default compiler. This should be possible for everything except for symbols files. For symbols files, make two builds one with the GCC 5 found in testing/unstable, and one with the GCC 5 found in experimental (>= 5.1.1-20). Alternatively do both builds with the compiler found in experimental, one with -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0, and one with D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=1, and prepare the | 12:08 |
| santa_ | symbols file (maybe by adding a second file, or marking the symbols as optional). | 12:08 |
| Riddell | hmm ok | 12:09 |
| santa_ | so it seems to me the best approach to follow with kde frameworks for kubuntu is marking everything as optional, no matter what | 12:09 |
| Riddell | yep, I guess so | 12:09 |
| santa_ | doko: ↑ could you please confirm that we are doing it right? | 12:09 |
| santa_ | sample patch: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kubuntu_patches/frameworks-5.12.0/threadweaver/0001-Mark-missing-symbols-for-GCC-5-as-optional.patch | 12:12 |
| santa_ | (asking because we will have to do this kind of change to a lot of libraries, so would be nice to be sure that we are following the correct approach) | 12:13 |
| doko | santa_, Riddell: sounds okish, I mean, you can drop these symbols later again. consider a pcakage renaming when you find cxx11 symbols in a library (e.g. I didn't find any for kde5libs | 12:21 |
| doko | santa_, but always use the silo16 as dependency, and the GCC 5 as the default GCC | 12:23 |
| santa_ | doko: yeah, I have to fix that in my own "ppa"; but I had a small problem: last time I checked aptitude using silo 16 segfaults; and I'm using the aptitude build dep resolver | 12:26 |
| santa_ | s/segfaults/doesn't load because of a symbol lookup error/ | 12:27 |
| santa_ | let me recheck the status | 12:27 |
| doko | santa_, right I messed up gcc-5. now fixed in 5.2.1-11ubuntu1 | 12:29 |
| doko | ohh, and maybe we don't have aptitude yet rebuilt | 12:30 |
| doko | no | 12:30 |
| santa_ | last time I tried it failed to build: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/logs/aptitude_0.6.11-1ubuntu4~santa1_amd64.build | 12:32 |
| doko | please use apt for now | 12:35 |
| santa_ | doko: ok, thank you very much for the hints | 12:37 |
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| santa_ | Riddell: good evening, it seems my stuff to help you with gcc 5 is working very well; do you want to apply some patches I have or do you prefer to wait until monday? (I will have everything needed for frameworks the monday) | 17:14 |
| santa_ | http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_kf5.html | 17:14 |
| santa_ | ↑ status | 17:14 |
| santa_ | http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kubuntu_patches/frameworks-5.12/ | 17:14 |
| santa_ | ↑ patches | 17:15 |
| hjd | Anyone might know something about dolphin-plugins-bazaar and bug 1264659. It seems to overlap quite a lot with another package. | 17:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1264659 in dolphin-plugins-bazaar (Ubuntu) "package dolphin-plugins-bazaar (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/services/fileviewbazaarplugin.desktop', which is also in package kdesdk-dolphin-plugins 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264659 | 17:32 |
| hjd | ? | 17:32 |
| clivejo | grrr | 19:00 |
| clivejo | calligra is missing files :( | 19:00 |
| clivejo | Riddell: dh_install: cp --reflink=auto -a debian/tmp/usr/lib/liblibkispsd.so.14 debian/krita//usr/lib/ returned exit code 1 | 19:11 |
| clivejo | what have I done wrong this time :( | 19:11 |
| ahoneybun | that was scray | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | I just had a X curser on reboot | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | had to killall Xorg | 19:49 |
| genii | Ouch | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | killall Xorg restarted everything | 19:57 |
| yofel_ | clivejo: you most likely nothing, it's common that upstream changes files, or that libraries change version. What happens now is that debian/krita.install has a file listed that doesn't exist anymore | 20:05 |
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| clivejo | yofel: there are a lot! | 20:06 |
| yofel | clivejo: so now remove that file from krita.install, and try dh_install again | 20:06 |
| clivejo | Ive tried that and removed like 10 files so far | 20:06 |
| clivejo | still missing files | 20:06 |
| clivejo | I think the build went wrong or something | 20:06 |
| yofel | hm, could be. check the cmake output if any optional dependencies are missing. Or check the cmake install output, maybe files just moved to a different location | 20:08 |
| yofel | but it might also be that the files did indeed vanish | 20:08 |
| clivejo | shouldnt it be documented? | 20:09 |
| yofel | no, the only thing you could check is the calligra git log, whether something major was done in krita | 20:11 |
| yofel | that's what I like to do at least when I want to find out why stuff is gone | 20:12 |
| ScottK | For build-deps you could diff the CMakeLists.txt for the old and new releases. | 20:12 |
| clivejo | is there no nepomuk-core-dev package in wily? | 20:43 |
| Riddell | clivejo: no nepomuk was removed a while ago | 20:44 |
| Riddell | some apps still ask for it's but it's optional and we opted out (as upstream requests) | 20:44 |
| clivejo | I just pulled the debian package for calligra | 20:45 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/calligra.git/ | 20:45 |
| clivejo | so just remove it from control file? | 20:46 |
| yofel | it should've been long gone from ours | 20:53 |
| yofel | also, we have ubuntu-specific changes in the calligra package, so you can't just base the new one on the debian one. You'll have to first merge in our changes if you do that | 20:54 |
| yofel | (well, those changes that still make sense) | 20:54 |
| clivejo | I give up! | 21:00 |
| * clivejo throws stuff across the room | 21:00 | |
| * valorie catches it and rolls it back | 21:08 | |
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