| TheMuso | cyphermox: I think you forgot to push your casper changes to bzr. Don't worry about it now, I'll fix it up... I just went to upload a new revision of the package based on the bzr branch to find it rejected due to your upload... | 01:30 |
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| Noskcaj-school | The current version of clutter-1.0 in wily is broken with many graphics card due to switching to gdk as the default backend. See bug 1462445 | 02:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1462445 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole starts with blank screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462445 | 02:40 |
| Noskcaj-school | This means totem and parole don't function with their default videosink, and many other clutter apps have issues | 02:41 |
| Noskcaj-school | Would it be safe to revert the change of default backend until a proper fix is found? https://git.gnome.org/browse/clutter/commit/?id=60dbeb9425f51fc602ba2fe89b2a968ef4b527ed | 02:42 |
| didrocks | Noskcaj-school: hey, Laney won't be around today if I'm right, I'll do with the revert personnaly, but I didn't update clutter for quite some years, so I would prefer to have a second opinion | 02:46 |
| TheMuso | Oh hey didrocks. :) Wasn't aware you were currently so closely aligned with us down under. :p | 02:47 |
| Noskcaj-school | didrocks: thanks. i'll link a bunch more bugs here that it should fix | 02:48 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: hey! my jetlag is closely aligned (already up for 5 hours) ;) | 02:49 |
| TheMuso | didrocks: Ah ok, that makes sense. | 02:49 |
| didrocks | Noskcaj-school: yeah, I bet there are quite some side-effects of this change… | 02:49 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: yep! on the positive side, it's only 24°C right now and not 39°C like yesterday… | 02:50 |
| didrocks | so working by night is quite an advantage | 02:50 |
| TheMuso | Yeah I can imagine, although 24 degrees overnight is still pretty warm. | 02:50 |
| Noskcaj-school | The revert should be safe since it's what we've had until wily, but we'll need to fix the backend itself soonish | 02:51 |
| didrocks | indeed, we have a hot summer here | 02:51 |
| didrocks | Noskcaj-school: indeed | 02:51 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:20 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! | 04:33 |
| pitti | ça va didrocks ! | 04:38 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, et toi ? | 04:39 |
| didrocks | jetlag though, slept 3 hours, wake up at midnight… and working since then :p | 04:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: where did you go? | 04:44 |
| didrocks | Washington DC for 3 weeks | 04:45 |
| didrocks | just diverted to New York for 4 days :) | 04:45 |
| didrocks | oh, I forgot to send you this google+ post with the space food | 04:45 |
| didrocks | asking if you wanted more :p | 04:45 |
| didrocks | (I was explaining your deep interest to Julie) | 04:45 |
| pitti | didrocks: heh, thanks; I've had three space ice creams now, that was enough to get a feeling for it :) | 04:58 |
| didrocks | ah, of course, ice creams had to be involved… :) | 05:00 |
| didrocks | we got some frozen yogurts there, but no ice creams | 05:01 |
| pitti | didrocks: so did you spend a lot of time on the mall? | 05:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: I spent like a whole day on the Air & Space museum alone back then, and the one with the rocks and meteorites etc. (Natural History?) was also quite good | 05:12 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, we visited most of the museum around it, and did as well a lot of walking in general (25km/day in New York and between 15 to 20 kms/day in DC) | 05:12 |
| pitti | wow | 05:13 |
| didrocks | yeah, Natural History was interesting, the American history one as well | 05:13 |
| didrocks | the National Art Gallery was bigger than what we expected | 05:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: we only had one weekend after the core sprint back then, not enough to see everything :/ | 05:13 |
| didrocks | and also we visited the capitol, the capitol library which is splendid, the supreme court… | 05:13 |
| pitti | oh, great! we didn't get to that; "only" the white house | 05:13 |
| didrocks | yeah, we even didn't visit everything we wanted, and that was in 3 weeks with almost no day off! | 05:14 |
| pitti | that sounds intense! | 05:14 |
| didrocks | yeah, we couldn't go back to white house, to many people already booked | 05:14 |
| didrocks | but Julie wasn't that disappointed | 05:14 |
| pitti | yeah, it really wasn't that big of a deal honestly | 05:14 |
| didrocks | agreed, we are quite used to those kind of furnitures in Europe I guess | 05:14 |
| didrocks | the capitol library was way more impressive | 05:15 |
| pitti | it's also a bit of a shame that I've been at the white house, but never yet at the "Bundeskanzleramt" in Berlin | 05:15 |
| pitti | I bet! | 05:15 |
| didrocks | ah, I guess it's always that, you visit more than people living around :) | 05:16 |
| didrocks | we spent the 14th of July at the embassee | 05:16 |
| didrocks | was surprise to see there the ex prime-minister | 05:16 |
| didrocks | also the imf (which is under French governance) president | 05:17 |
| didrocks | and the first day in DC, we crossed on a street our agriculture current minister | 05:18 |
| didrocks | never saw any famous politic in France, have to go to the US to see them :p | 05:18 |
| pitti | lol | 05:18 |
| didrocks | so yeah, was a really nice trip! and at least, Julie discovered a little bit of this country | 05:19 |
| didrocks | oh also, almost forgot | 05:22 |
| didrocks | the smoothest ever immigration process to the US ever | 05:22 |
| didrocks | 10 people in front of us | 05:22 |
| didrocks | (seems there were only american citizen in this flight) | 05:23 |
| pitti | didrocks: wow! | 05:24 |
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| pitti | didrocks: so far my smoothest one was Austin last time | 05:25 |
| pitti | didrocks: with the passport machines; but even that took 10 mins (!) | 05:25 |
| didrocks | we couldn't get there, it's only if you ESTA was already processed manually once | 05:25 |
| didrocks | and I got a new one, and it was the first time for Julie… | 05:26 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm probably going to take a nap. Do you mind telling to seb and will if they are looking for me that I'll be back later on? (keeping IRC on). I've already worked 8 hours anyway today, but I'll keep in touch with them at lunch time/afternoon | 06:00 |
| didrocks | let's see how long I can sleep… :p | 06:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: sure! sleep weel! | 06:01 |
| didrocks | thanks, ttyl! | 06:01 |
| larsu | hm seems like I barely missed didrocks :) | 06:52 |
| larsu | morning! | 06:52 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:00 |
| pitti | hey larsu, hey seb128! | 07:04 |
| larsu | guten morgen pitti! | 07:08 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, happy friday! how are you? | 07:09 |
| pitti | seb128: quite well, thanks! yourself? | 07:12 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, didrocks' body clock is still all wrong; didrocks | 00:07:09> good well, morning I guess :) | 07:12 |
| pitti | seb128: he went to bed an hour ago, but he'll catch up with you and will around noon | 07:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I read the irclog when I saw larsu's comment | 07:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, weird jetlag shift from a trip back from US eastcoast ;-) | 07:14 |
| seb128 | I usually sleep until like 1am when I come back | 07:14 |
| seb128 | ups | 07:15 |
| seb128 | 1pm I mean | 07:15 |
| seb128 | oh, and I'm good thanks ;-) | 07:16 |
| pitti | yeah, maybe instead of adjusting 6 hours forward he's trying to adjust 18 hours backwards :) | 07:16 |
| seb128 | :-) | 07:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/wily/i386/ is that a new infra bug/do you want to be pinged about those? | 07:43 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm still regularly watching the tmpfail ones, so no need for that yet | 07:45 |
| pitti | seb128: that's the kind of hiccup I'm looking for indeed | 07:46 |
| seb128 | k | 07:47 |
| willcooke | morning | 07:51 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:57 |
| willcooke | bah, no golf on this morning | 08:02 |
| willcooke | Washed out | 08:02 |
| willcooke | They said it rained 12mm in 30 mins this morning | 08:03 |
| seb128 | urg | 08:03 |
| seb128 | welcome to england! | 08:03 |
| willcooke | Scotland | 08:03 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:03 |
| seb128 | haha | 08:03 |
| willcooke | Nothing to do with us ;[ | 08:03 |
| willcooke | ;p | 08:03 |
| seb128 | yeah yeah | 08:03 |
| willcooke | lol | 08:03 |
| pitti | seb128: so, this auto-retries up to 3 times after such a "nova boot" failure (it has a timeout of 30 mins, usually it takes 1 min) | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: so for now I take it scalingstack was down for a longer period last night | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: it already broke down for about an hour yesterday around noon, I asked and they fixed it | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: so for now I'm just re-running all tmpfail tests | 08:06 |
| pitti | seb128: (just FYI) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | seems not a really reliable infrastructure :-/ | 08:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, k, thanks | 08:06 |
| pitti | seb128: well, this is all still fairly new, so lots of opportunities for IS to learn :) but I think they actually fixed a config bug there, it was not just a "reboot and hope" thing | 08:07 |
| seb128 | k | 08:07 |
| pitti | seb128: and I can certainly improve the auto-retry thing, that's my part | 08:07 |
| seb128 | larsu, oh btw, what's the status of the theme update? Laney if off today and you are on vac starting tonight ... | 08:07 |
| pitti | seb128: that's the point of running that for 2/3 weeks on the side, and seeing the fallout | 08:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, ideally you could rely on the infra to be up, but things need to work in real world not in theory... | 08:08 |
| pitti | seb128: well, it's not like the four current machines never fail :) | 08:08 |
| * pitti strokes his sore "retry test" finger | 08:08 | |
| seb128 | lol | 08:08 |
| larsu | seb128: I've proposed the nautilus parts on Monday. I'll get eog and some minor things up later today (at latest on the weekend) - after I figure out this terminal resizing thing | 08:12 |
| seb128 | larsu, k | 08:12 |
| larsu | what's the status on the overlay scrollbars? | 08:12 |
| seb128 | what do you mean? | 08:12 |
| larsu | can we merge it? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | I though that was part of the coming theme update | 08:13 |
| larsu | no, it's been proposed for a while | 08:13 |
| larsu | waiting on design I think | 08:13 |
| seb128 | oh, right, willcooke was supposed to ask them? | 08:13 |
| larsu | I think he did and people liked it, but I don't know if that was the official answer yet | 08:13 |
| larsu | I'll ask him when he's around | 08:13 |
| seb128 | k, let's land it then, I think we agreed that it was a good start in any case even if extra tweaking is needed later | 08:15 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ^ | 08:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, the nautilus changes look good to me, approved it | 08:17 |
| larsu | thanks! | 08:18 |
| seb128 | yw! | 08:18 |
| willcooke | larsu, seb128 - it's with johnlea. He was due to talk to Mark about it yesterday. We gave him a video showing the new set up and he was going to demo to Mark | 08:24 |
| seb128 | k | 08:24 |
| seb128 | let we know when you hear back from him | 08:24 |
| willcooke | I'm just trying to get hold of him now.... | 08:24 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:24 |
| pitti | seb128, Laney: FYI, bug 1475537 | 08:26 |
| ubot5 | bug 1475537 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Wily) "powerpc/ppc64el regression: libgtk-3-dev broken in 3.16.5-1ubuntu1" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1475537 | 08:26 |
| seb128 | shrug | 08:29 |
| seb128 | why is that arch specific? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks for finding it out :-) | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: I just followed up again | 08:30 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:31 |
| pitti | seb128: libmirclient-dev [amd64 arm64 armhf i386], | 08:31 |
| seb128 | is that from a time where mir didn't exist on other archs? | 08:31 |
| pitti | apparently so | 08:32 |
| seb128 | k, so we just need to drop those restrictions I guess | 08:32 |
| * seb128 does that | 08:32 | |
| pitti | right | 08:32 |
| pitti | seb128: so build and binary deps should have the same arch list | 08:33 |
| pitti | either drop the build dep from powerpc/ppc64el, or drop the arch list from the -dev, depending on whether mir works on ppc | 08:33 |
| seb128 | I don't know if it "works" | 08:34 |
| seb128 | but it builds/should be installable | 08:34 |
| pitti | seb128: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/ est vert à nouveau | 08:34 |
| seb128 | bien ! | 08:34 |
| pitti | seb128: so I agree, just dropping the arch restriction in the -dev sounds fine for now | 08:35 |
| seb128 | cool | 08:35 |
| seb128 | thanks pitti | 08:35 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks for fixing! once this is in -proposed, I can rebuild packagekit and resolve that NBS | 08:35 |
| * pitti loves the pre-holiday rush | 08:35 | |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, fix uploaded, I untagged the bug but maybe I should wait for gtk to build for that? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, though there are some boottest regression in the mir stack so it's not going to migrate now anyway | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, untagging sounds fine | 08:52 |
| seb128 | good | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: that's ok -- it doesn't need to migrate to allow reverse dependencies to build | 08:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, it was rather the other way around | 08:52 |
| seb128 | I didn't want the current gtk to migrate before the new one builds | 08:52 |
| willcooke | ? | 09:45 |
| willcooke | oops, wrong screen | 09:45 |
| === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland | ||
| didrocks | pitti: seb128: so, for the record, it's weird, I couldn't sleep on the way back, so skipped a night during flight (and arrived at Frankfurt at 5am) | 11:09 |
| didrocks | then, waiting for the flight to Lyon, even not sleepy | 11:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: hey! feeling better now? | 11:10 |
| didrocks | I just slept for the first time yesterday from 9am to midnight and was all fresh and ready to work :p | 11:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: a little bit (actually, I'm awaken for an hour already, but was backlogging on email first) | 11:10 |
| didrocks | thanks ;) | 11:10 |
| didrocks | but yeah, first time I have this kind of jetlag clock | 11:10 |
| didrocks | I'm sure as well that the 38°C in Lyon doesn't help to have a good sleep | 11:12 |
| willcooke | hey didrocks | 11:20 |
| Sweet5hark | didrocks: how about sleeping on icecubes? | 11:21 |
| Sweet5hark | ... didier on the rocks. | 11:21 |
| willcooke | get your coat | 11:21 |
| Sweet5hark | hrhr | 11:21 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke! | 11:22 |
| * didrocks now considers Sweet5hark's suggestion | 11:22 | |
| didrocks | willcooke: so, it seems like I'll do night shifts for now on :p | 11:23 |
| didrocks | from* | 11:24 |
| willcooke | ah, good - I was going to ask you if you would anyway | 11:24 |
| willcooke | ;) | 11:24 |
| willcooke | oh | 11:24 |
| willcooke | and day shifts too | 11:25 |
| didrocks | willcooke: seems like the current experiment for today anyway, right? ;) | 11:25 |
| willcooke | :D | 11:25 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| * desrt yawns | 12:34 | |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:36 |
| desrt | hihi! | 12:36 |
| didrocks | morning desrt | 12:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey as well :-) | 12:37 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 ;-) | 12:37 |
| seb128 | (just read the irclog, my laptop was not plugged correctly and went flat during lunch) | 12:37 |
| didrocks | ah ok, I didn't see you leaving IRC | 12:38 |
| didrocks | only 45 mails to go to finish the entire backlog \o/ | 12:39 |
| desrt | hellos to everyone!! | 12:39 |
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| === xclaesse` is now known as xclaesse | ||
| === ted is now known as tedg | ||
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| Sweet5hark | LibreOffice on wayland via gdk/gtk3: http://caolanm.blogspot.de/2015/07/libreoffice-on-wayland.html | 15:04 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, neat! | 15:24 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: btw the current prereleases also default to use gtk3 right now still. But I guess I will still revert to gtk2 for us as default as a/ I dont know how stable gtk3 is now IRL b/ gtk3-foo currently has no gmenumodel-dbus-unity-foo right now. | 15:32 |
| willcooke | kk | 15:32 |
| Sweet5hark | (for wily. it looks rather stable, so should be good for anything later) | 15:33 |
| davidbarth | willcooke: hey Will; sorry if that's a faq, but i there a quick way to switch between the desktop greeter and the "touch" one on wily? | 15:35 |
| davidbarth | i booted on a daily image with the touch greeter and after an upgrade i'm getting the desktop greeter | 15:35 |
| willcooke | hummm | 15:36 |
| willcooke | if you set the session to U8 and login from the initial greeter | 15:36 |
| willcooke | do you get the U8 greeter? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:36 |
| davidbarth | actually i can't login but i don't see anything in .xsession-errors | 15:36 |
| davidbarth | ah, in .cache/upstart/unity8.log, where it belongs ;) | 15:37 |
| davidbarth | mir failes to find platform for current system | 15:38 |
| seb128 | is mir-graphics-drivers-desktop installed? | 15:39 |
| davidbarth | seb128: yes, 0.13.3+15.10.20150617 | 15:40 |
| seb128 | k, dunno then | 15:40 |
| seb128 | what's your issue exactly? | 15:40 |
| davidbarth | session fails to start | 15:41 |
| seb128 | you try to log into an unity8 session from unity-greeter and you get back to the greeter? | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | i'll keep digging, just getting myself used to the setup | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | seb128: yes, exactly | 15:41 |
| seb128 | is that a new install? | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | yes | 15:41 |
| seb128 | try to rm .cache/upstart and /var/log/lightdm | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | daily image install in vmware + apt-get upgrade | 15:41 |
| seb128 | then restart lightdm, try to log in | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | ok | 15:41 |
| seb128 | oh, vmware | 15:41 |
| seb128 | could be that you are on software rendering | 15:41 |
| seb128 | that mir doesn't support | 15:41 |
| davidbarth | but it worked initally, so it shouldn't be that bad | 15:42 |
| seb128 | you can try to check the /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log | 15:42 |
| davidbarth | ah ok, i will check that as well | 15:42 |
| davidbarth | that makes for a lot of tracks to follow; thanks seb128 | 15:42 |
| seb128 | yw | 15:43 |
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| davidbarth | seb128: the rm's made it work again; also i had to generate the ssh host key manually, which the setup had failed to generate | 15:58 |
| davidbarth | now i can debug the rest | 15:58 |
| willcooke | davidbarth, seb128 I've seen that ssh issue a few times now | 16:10 |
| willcooke | I'll do a bit of digging | 16:11 |
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| === Steve_Jo1 is now known as Steve_Jobs | ||
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